, then they'll scale along
with the text.
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on the platform.
(and I always though that Firefox window used something slightly
higher - 1.25. But the underlying code tells me it is 1.2).
What should my styles be to achieve the effect I want, cross-platform?
Set the line-height... 1.35 works nicely on my OS X browsers.
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build (post Safari 3.03b) and Opera 9.22 display exactly the same.
If you wrap your 'Hello moto' in a p, then Fx 2.0, Opera, Webkit,
Safari 3.0 and Minefield (FX 3 alpha) all agree.
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of the container ?
Removing the height will allow the content to flow correctly. What
exactly you want to do with the overflow property, I'm not clear.
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FX 2 will ignore inline-block, but the upcoming FX 3, which supports
inline-block very well, will use that one (instead of the proprietary
-moz-inline-box).
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) and float
it (float:left), then give a width of 100%. That way it will contain
the floated li's, and the border will be painted where you expect it.
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characters U+00A1 and higher, plus the hyphen (-) and the underscore
(_); they cannot start with a digit, or a hyphen followed by a digit.
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of elements.
Setting
h1 {margin-top:0}
in your stylesheet will eliminate that space you're worried about.
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known as the 'box model'
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html
A fieldset being a block-level element will automatically expand to
the full width of the parent box, you don't need to specify a width
(especially, as you use 100%).
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one, the selector
becomes a bit longer:
trtd:first-child+td+td,
trth:first-child+th+th {display:none;}
will deal with the 3rd column.
Do you have a URL that illustrates your problem(s) ?
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It is a known bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210094
(uly workaround: wrap the content of the fieldset in a div and
apply the min-height to that div...)
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in your navigation-bar is not centred. That is a bug in
IE Mac. The only work around is to wrap the text (inside) the a in
a span.
Like so: a href=#spanHome/span/a
No need to add any styling to that span.
For more on IE mac fun things:
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will cover the text below/above in
the same block.
As for margins: vertical margins on non-replaced inline elements
(like span) have no effects.
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#margin-properties
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Removing the 'fixed' keyword will fix your issues.
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It is now supported by Firefox 2, though, and you might
therefore use it to benefit _some_ users, but it won't help the
majority.
But only on Windows.
Firefox 3.0 will have support for it on all platforms.
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* come
first. Or
is this just a matter preference and/or good coding practice?
Doesn't matter. Keyword is keyword and takes only one position (top
is always top).
I always specify the horizontal position first, it is a habit.
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, the whole block is moved to the right, but there is not
enough space in the parent block, and the link drops below the image.
Remove the width should fix the issue
Why not use a list ?
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have 'updated' to the
Safari 3 beta build.
(builds can be very hard to download. If anyone has spare disk-space
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it the same. IE and Opera gives all 4 blocks the same width.
http://lab.phiw.dev/font-text/em_ex.php
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(and recent Safari 2.0 +) and Gecko 1.7+
display it the same. IE and Opera gives all 4 blocks the same width.
http://lab.phiw.dev/font-text/em_ex.php
URL that -luckily- can't be accessed by anybody...
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/em-ex.php
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At least with Gecko 1.9 some cross platform behaviour will be
possible. Little steps...
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, and not with CSS 3, I think (1).
You'll probably need to inject a non-breaking space between the last
to words of your block using Javascript or whatever server side
language is fashionable today. But that is OT.
(1) http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-text/#justification
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each on a line of its own. Did I miss something in the problem
description?
.col4 {float:right; padding-top:5px}
You don't specify a width on that div. Hence it gets wide enough to
contain the whole text string on one line. That seems absolutely
correct to me.
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takes up space.
with my minimum font-size set to 12px. If I disable minimum font-
size, the Inspector reports that element to be 1px tall, and of
course it generates a line-box.
PS - don't rely on font-size (0px, 1px,...) to size an element
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as well.
iCab, WebKit and Safari all show the same thing.
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Linux for the nightly builds, not sure).
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is not Opera or
Netscape 8.
3 lines of text will not fit in the assigned height of 30~40px.
A few suggestions:
* remove all specified height.
* for non IE win browsers, you'll need a clearing element, given that
your #footer only contains floated elements.
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want
'background: url() no-repeat transparent top'
instead of what you have
A quick trip to the CSS validator would have told you that.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/colors.html#propdef-background
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-image:
--^
but adds all the background values (-position, -image, -color, -
repeat) (aka shorthand for the 'background' property).
And no, I don't need to add the ';'
(except if you need to add additional property/value pairs in the
ruleblock).
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PS - I usually write the value for 'background' as
background: transparent url(/images/kraken-head-logo.jpg) no-repeat top;
that is [background-color] [background-image] [background-repeat]
[background-position],
but that is just because I find it more readable.
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On Oct 6, 2007, at 10:15 PM, David Laakso wrote:
@media screen and (min-width: 0px){
#foo { padding: ... ;}
}
And mind the last brace.
Unreliable. That will also target Safari 3 and newer, Konqueror 4
(afaik).
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#content {
/* clear:both;*/ /* !-- remove */
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(rather than using a hack to fix it). I'm sure it will make a come-
back in a future version of WebKit.
Another reason to be extremely cautious with these kind of filters,
when targeting 'living' browsers.
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left
the p is floated right
Like this:
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:760px;} should stabilze that problem on most
browsers. (and remove the float, I don't see the use for it). Use the
appropriate {width: expression()} for IE 6.
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with display:block + margins as
needed. That still fails in WebKit/Safari.
... or don't use caption, but headings (like h5 or h6, depending on
your document structure).
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://suruchirestaurant.com/test/css/iepngfix.htc
http://suruchirestaurant.com/test/index.php
That is kind of expected side effects from those alphaLoader filters.
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/alphatransparency.html
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http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-content/#pseudo-elements
and I would argue that your 'did this answer your question' is real
content, and should be part of the html document, not the stylesheet.
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about a similar request (but for
Opera). The same gotchas apply.
http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/93262
Which browser/version is correct in your case ?
A test-case illustrating the issue might be helpful.
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Safari 2.04, Safari 3.0beta and latest WebKit builds all display the
same here. OS X 10.4.10.
Which version of Safari are testing ?
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... :-(
Consider it a bug.
Opera 9 alpha OS X:
*~html - target IE 7 and Opera 9.10 and 9.24 fails (red background)
all others work as expected (greenish background, specific style
ignored).
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On Oct 22, 2007, at 8:11 PM, I wrote:
Opera 9 alpha OS X:
s/Opera 9/Opera 9.5 alpha
(ahem)
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block.
In your case: div id=mynewwrapperdiv id=container .
and move some of the styling (margin/width/padding/positoning) from
#container to #mynewwrapper.
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or
you can explicitly set the dimensions in the stylesheet.
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property triggers
'haslayout', amongst several reasons.
No solutions except this: fake your listmarkers (bullets) with a
background image, or such (maybe insert a bullet;)
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correctly in Safari 2.04, WebKit builds and
Safari 3.03beta. OS X 10.4.10.
You don't say which version of Safari you are testing... Safari 2.04
and older can be quite stubborn in caching stylesheets. Reloading a
couple of times usually solves that.
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, so that the repeating
part is not visible.
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would be
/* background-color:#2b2656; */ /*Default menu color*/
That results in Safari 2.04 to stop parsing the rest of the stylesheet.
Idem ditto on line 62.
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that issue.
PS have a look at the validation of your page:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fphoenix-cfs.org%
2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0ss=1
Not a bad idea to fix this.
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other problems: in Safari, the two columns are displayed
side by side, but in other browsers (including IE 7) the 2 columns
are displayed one below the other one. You should specify a 'width'
for the narrow column.
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) selector { property:value }
Nobody else seems to support this (not Gecko, not Opera).
Documented here:
http://thomas.tanreisoftware.com/?p=11#safari
As Georg says, use with care and in the knowledge that those hackery
filters will break in the future, possibly sooner than later.
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that is
under it. But when the box has some 'opacity' it needs to be painted
on a higher layer, in order to show what is under that box.
(Developers working on rendering engines will probably shoot me for
this way of explaining things...).
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being analogous to opacity).
[1] http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_09.html
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The website url is
http://www.necwa.org/new_site/mwr.html
#nav ul ul {margin-bottom:100px;} ?
(obviously, adjust the value to taste :-))
BTW - IE 6 and 7 don't understand the keyword 'inherit'.
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will generate this for you. The resulting
construction may or may not be what you expect.
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, the underlying issue also
causes the whole header to show a vertical scrollbar, where there
should be none.
maybe a better fix:
#headerLogo a {display:block;}
#headerNav {margin: 0 0 1px; }
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navigation much
faster on screen than it fetches the image. If you specify the size
of the image in the html or stylesheet, the browser doesn't have to
interpolate it.
Once the image is cached (on reload), the problem vanishes.
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{display:block;}
?
( in http://thedesignspace.net/css/safari3problem/index_files/
portal.css, line 258)
The default display value for a td is display:table-cell;
Look at
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/saftabs.html
first row has your styling for the td, second doesn't.
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case, I'd go for margin-bottom on the table(s) and the h2
that precedes the tables.
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in that version, as the image
should scale, per the spec.
Have you considered using an image that is scaled ? Would speed up
download time for most people...
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It is not the specific font, but the width-less inline-block (in that
case, in IE Mac it is not really an inline-block).
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You'll need to read up on the subject of 'containing' floats. This
page [1] on the CSS-discuss wiki is a start; your favourite search
engine has more
[1] http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ClearingSpace
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'opacity' property since at least Firefox 1.0, if not earlier.
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http://gallery.theopalgroup.com/selectoracle/
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problem solving, not a generic one.
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as expected: the block element is shrinked to fit the content
http://dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/moz-fit-content.html
With a long caption, the text does not wrap to the width of the
image, but that is expected.
You'll need a recent nightly build or the Fx3 beta 2 build to enjoy.
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width minus horizontal
margin, border, and padding
# -moz-fit-content : the same as -moz-max-content
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a (minimal) testcase like you did is the best way;
(and it was a good test case).
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On Jan 13, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Alan Gresley wrote:
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
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2. Safari vs Firefox and Opera 9.5b. The right column is pushed far
away to the right in Firefox and Opera. Browsers have different
interpretation of how the margin on elements adjacent to a floated
block
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* setting overflow:hidden on the element that wraps the floats
* float the element that wraps the floats
* use the 'easy clearing' method documented on PIE
http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html
more in the Wiki
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ClearingSpace
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. Invalid html: a table cannot be wrapped in a p
2. Without IE at hand, I think you need to give 'layout' to #content
* html #content {height:1%;} or something like that.
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is there that
extra space at the bottom of the div and inside is miraculous
duplicate dates. You can view source, there are no duplicate dates.
This ?
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/dup-characters.html
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you about
it. Oh
well.
Couldn't reproduce that one, but I use the latest nightly build. And
there still are open bugs on similar things, mostly on Windows, iirc.
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the #artbody div. This doesn't happen in
iExploder, as #artbody has 'layout'.
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: 50em; margin:auto;}
#artbody has 'layout'
I'm sorry, I didn't get this reference.
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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http
://inkpixelspaper.com/clients/rbmstaticsite/
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http://www.brunildo.org/test/ie7_badzoom.html
for more.
Let us know how you ended up 'fixing' it.
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question the utility of this (in a broader context,
semantics etc.).
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On Jan 26, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Foundation Flash wrote:
Philippe,
I'm pretty sure that the latter point would break the entire design
(I have tested it in Firebug). Is there a way around this, or
should I just grin and bear it?
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But 'bottom' will not position the element at the bottom of the table-
cell, only at the bottom of the div (which will only be as tall as
its in-flow content).
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