[CTRL] Only in the Balkans

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[CTRL] programmer digs up the truth behind atrocities

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2000/09/08/patrick_ball/print.html Mining data on mutilations, beatings, murders A computer programmer digs up the truth behind atrocities in El Salvador, Kosovo and other troubled locales. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Simson Garfinkel Sep. 08, 2000 | "This wou

Re: [CTRL] Black Market Bones

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It is much easier to control heroin addicts than >potheads. It's easier to control the supply of heroin, and hence the profits, from heroin. Poppies take up a lot of space. One or two pot plants can supply a whole family all year. > >And the withdrawal is

Re: [CTRL] Reply to NSA The Diana Forum

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Also, if it was important for her to be sacrificed on Aug 31st then >how could they have guaranteed this? The crash happened minutes after >midnight - pure chance yet again. They could have left The Ritz at any >given >time during the evening. A car could h

Re: [CTRL] UK whites to be minority by 2100

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >mongrelization Hybrid vigor http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid mat

Re: [CTRL] No Right to Bare Arms (Supreme Court)

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >that the >second amendement is an INDIVIDUAL right, and that this right as >established by the court Aside from whether or not the courts or the Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms, the arms themselves guarantee the right to bear arms. Any

[CTRL] Fwd: [AFIB] The Earth First! Bombing ... Ten Years On

___ ANTIFA INFO-BULLETIN News * Analysis * Research * Action ___ SPECIAL EDITION - September 6, 2000 - * * * __ THE EARTH FIRST! BOMBING ... TEN YEARS ON Updates

[CTRL] Should we trust medical journals?

I don't think so. For details, see: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/09/06/MN107563.DTL http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcom

Re: [CTRL] So it has finally come to this.

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Re: [CTRL] Nazi-Era Victims Demand US Documents On Vatican

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Beautiful article Nessie Thanks. I try. It's an important case. I'll be following it closely. There is no way to understand what is happening in the Balkans today without factoring in the Ustashi and their friends in the Vatican. Th

Re: [CTRL] Nazi-Era Victims Demand US Documents On Vatican

See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/26.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and &#

[CTRL] Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing

http://www.foxnews.com/news/national/1209/d_ap_1209_331.sml Justice not likely to prosecute in King killing 11.55 a.m. ET (1707 GMT) December 9, 1999 By Michael J. Sniffen, Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Although a civil jury has concluded there was a conspiracy to kill the Rev. Martin Lu

Re: [CTRL] Andrew D Basiago's phone call - 9/4/00

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Que? Who cares, but let us all keep an eye out. Immediately call the police and file a complaint. Get a restraining order against this guy. That way you'll save a lot of money on your legal defense if he actually comes to your house later and you have to s

[CTRL] The same few people still own the country

The same few people still own the country By ROD WATSON 8/31/00 OK, they're going to humor us again next week. Sure, they're giving us Monday off. But the lakes will be too crowded to fish. And besides, we really shouldn't be bought of

Re: [CTRL] School bans Boy Scouts recruitment

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I don't mind gays, but why do I have to >hear about it all the time? For the same reason that gays have to hear about the heterosexual lifestyle all the time. It's part of life. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL i

Re: [CTRL] Crowley biography

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It's one of the most entertaining and readable biographies I've read. That doesn't make it a good biography. What makes a biography good is accuracy. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informationa

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

> > Peace does have to come from >within each person. >P eace does not come from within every single person. Even in totally egalitarian societies where neither status nor poverty nor prohabition exist to motivate predation, still, there are born into every generation a tiny handful of psycho

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Whose conservative estimate? The NRA's? Mine. It is, admittedly, a difficult thing to estimate. Gun ownership is a lot like sex and drugs. Some people lie about it. Even more simply omit the truth, or part of the truth. So it's impossible to get an absolute

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >How do you suggest we proceed to stop police brutality? By creating a society in which there is no division between civilians, military and police because all three are subsumed by the citizen's militia. Yeah, I know, easier said than done. But what's e our

Re: [CTRL] Woman protests restroom arrest

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I guess we know where police brutality gets its beginnings. Police are brutal (and corrupt) because the rest of us permit it. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Prosely

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >VERY FEW PEOPLE OWN GUNS. Eighty million is a conservative estimate. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Give up guns, or go to war? What do you think?

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And who do you think would win Einstein? Count heads. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—ple

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >ANYONE who does not >want to live in the ghetto or be known as from the ghetto has the >opportunity to rise above and escape. Not children. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational excha

Re: [CTRL] : THE PEOPLE VS LARRY FLYNT: A FEMINIST CRITIQUE AND

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >To this day Flynt is being pushed off as a martyer; when Larry McDonald went down on the 007 Flynt made a joke out of it, but by that time Flynt was in a wheelchair. The February 1984 issue of Hustler, on pages 112-119, published a series of surreptitiously tak

Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz

ovement. For a brief period, Nazis held state power. They do not at present hold state power anywhere on earth, at least not overtly. They are still a major world power, though, in some ways more powerful now than ever. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/company.html Bolshevism is specifically inte

Re: [CTRL] Wormwood

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Greetings, > >My first post. > >Question : Does Wormwood in Revelations equate to >Bitterroot National Forest? You should ask this on a list where it's on topic. This list is not about the interpretation of scripture. This list is about conspiracy theory. Th

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Report: Violent Entertainment Aimed At Young

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And people wonder why we have >gangs, school shootings, and 13 year olds having babies, not to mention >a total lack of civility in our society. Thirteen year olds have been having babies since cave days. The prolonged adolescence that Americans take for gr

[CTRL] Mitretek Systems

it's one of those days. here's yet another hot tip that showed up in my box this morning: *** Forwarded message from Dave Hartley Found what very much looks like a HUGE, humongous, high-tech "cutout." An infowar octopus, whose tentacles support the medicalization of the popula

[CTRL] DOD publications - where to get some of them (fwd)

A friend of mine is a rare book dealer. He just forwarded me this from a list he subs to. It looks useful. Check it out. * >>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:23:20 EDT >>Subject: [BI] DOD publications - where to get some of them, and other >good >>stuff >> >>I have provided belo

Re: [CTRL] Alex Constantine v. David Horowitz

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Hitler only killed 10 million, Hitler's troops killed a bare minimum of 20 million Russians. They Russians say it may have as high as fifty million. Another thirteen million people died in the Lager system alone. This doesn't excuse the depredations of Sta

Re: [CTRL] Endless bullshit from

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >I >n a welfare state, where the government steals from the productive and >gives to the lazy, the >indolent, and the anti-social, In a capitalist economy the lazy, indolent, parasitic rich leech off the ordinary workers (like you and me) who do the actual p

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >How do you explain what pornography is, to a 5 year old who has no >inkling that it even exists? I told my kid that people have sex, that's how he got here, it's perfectly natural, and it's no big deal. He turned out fine. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.o

Re: [CTRL] Some day, you may have to EAT THE RICH.

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >GOOD! Now, gimme mine back! Wouldn't it make more sense to buy down the debt, now, while times are good? Good times don't last. Capitalism is enherently cyclical. Of course I personally favor abolishing the whole money system, but short of that, doesn't f

Re: [CTRL] rods

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > the flying tooth is a classic. If you squint, you can see the Tooth Fairy. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substan

Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I'm not buying into the Elders of Zion crap, of course. Me either. It was a czarist fraud. > > But in my own >experience, sometimes a healthy sense of paranoia is a decided survival >trait, >not least in the corporate world. Paranoia is not mental illne

[CTRL] rods

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[CTRL] CSIS report on Anti-Globalism

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Re: [CTRL] A B A L K A N E N C O U N T E R: The Elders of Zion

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The Paranoid Personality Disorder Key words: > " >without sufficient basis " " > unjustified doubts " > " > without justification " > It is often not possible to determine sufficiency and justification until after the fact. The main thing about paranoia

Re: [CTRL] No Mention: Classified Material Gone?

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And wasn't it convenient that a U.S. Navy carrier task group just >*happened* to >be in port when this "accident" took place? They are at war in the area, blockading Iraq, at the cost (so far) of a half a million Iraqis, almost all of them women and children

Re: [CTRL] Fw: How Long Will Current Movements Rise??

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >You go girl!!! Actually, I'm a guy. It's a mixed blessing, but I seem to be making the best of it. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screed

Re: [CTRL] Don't be fooled again.

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[CTRL] Fwd: DENDRITE: Public ZAPS BACK at Forced Electroshock! Victory!

www.MindFreedom.org DENDRITE -- August 24, 2000 COPY & POST to appropriate places on & off Internet: UPDATE: human rights & "mental health system." A free project of Support Coalition International. http://www.MindFreedom.org email:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ~~

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Insofar as world conquest is concerned, there is a distinction to be >made between a Church in the service of the State (the Anglicans) and >states in the service of the Church as was the case of the Vatican's >Inquisition. That is ludicrous. If a bunch o

Re: [CTRL] Fw: How Long Will Current Movements Rise??

Yeah. Right. Sure. And, as previously pointed out on CTRL, the anarchists of Eugene owe their existence to the Russian Woodpecker. And, as the Kerner Commission concluded, the uprisings of the Sixties were due to mental illness. This is a bunch of superstitious nonsense. I have a different theory

Re: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Alternative Radio: Selected Program Summ

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named "Babcock" for foul last

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >So the kids have to get off the puter if I >have to leave the room. At 7 & 5, they are too young to be >unsupervised. Try this. Leave them on the computer unsupervised, but not on the internet. Password the software you use to log onto your ISP. Log off w

[CTRL] Fwd: DENDRITE: Stop Forced Electroshock of Kathleen Garrett!

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[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Blackplanet.com bans woman named "Babcock" for foul last name

http://www.dfn.org/Voices/Americas/usa/blackplanet.htm > DIGITAL FREEDOM NETWORK > MEDIA RELEASE: For immediate release > Contact: Bobson Wong (201-928-4378, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Alan Brown > (201-928-4365, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > WEB SITE

Re: [CTRL] Sv: Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >How come you need a shepard? I don't. > >Will you not follow the flock? A flock, by definition, is being led to one of two places, to be fleeced or to be slaughtered. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a disc

Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

> >the lamb speaks to the vickar "The Lord is my shepard." What's that make me? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These

[CTRL] The anarchist formerly known as Prince

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > Kropotkin is too often overlooked as a political philosopher. And as a scientist in general. He was the Einstien of his age. In the late 1800s, if you asked a guy in the street to name a scientist, he probably would have said, "Kropotkin." That's how famo

[CTRL] Mosquito problems nothing new

"Fort Detrick scientists discovered a Trinidadian who had been infected with yellow fever in 1954 and had later recovered. They took serum from the Trinidadian and injected it into monkeys. From the monkeys they removed infected plasma, into which they dropped mosquito larvae. The infected mosquit

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The Book of Revelations says this world >takeover >is the point of the One World Religion - and the One World >Economy . > The idea is to draw a line, either one is for Christ or against >him. That's one religion's view. There are many religions, each w

Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists

respect each other's territory. And need I mention the ants? Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution is available from http://www/akpress.org Tell 'em nessie sent ya. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational e

[CTRL] A day late

The SFBG copy department finally got my column for this week up on the site: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/25.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screed

[CTRL] WNV vaccine

[Please Forward Widely] "Every Child and Senior to Take West Nile Vaccine" by Robert Lederman "Federal health officials say they will recommend that anyone in the high-risk group - children and the elderly - take the vaccine." Biotech Company Takes Shot at Vaccine-Daily News 8/21/2000 entire arti

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Re(2): [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >And by the way, it was the Roman Catholic Church in particular - and not >Christianity as a whole - that has attempted world conquest. Christianity did not attempt to conquer the world. It is important to avoid confusing the religion with its practitioner

Re: [CTRL] U.N. Set to Impose "One World Religion"

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > eventual imposition of a One >World (paganistic) Religion under the United Nations. What an absurdity! There is not a single religion in all of history whose followers have been able to impose it on the whole world, not even Christianity and Islam, whose fo

Re: [CTRL] Reply to Ynr Chyldz Wyld and proof

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > How can you say that there >has to be proof??? Let me put it this way: If somebody posts a message to this list that says that Birdie4 is a liar, should we believe them just because they said it or should we make them prove it first? http://www.ctrl.org/

Re: [CTRL] nessie-- The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

>thanks for your comments. Yes i do agree with your comments on predation. (snip) >Trust is a complex issue but for me there are huge differences between believing that someone is a survivor of experimentation, being friends with them, sharing my own personal information, or inviting them to my

Re: [CTRL] The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I guess I dont really understand why anyone >would want to lie about be raped and shocked >and beaten. There are a number of possible reasons. Just because you wouldn't want to lie about being raped and shocked and beaten doesn't mean everyone wouldn't wan

Re: [CTRL] The Color Yellow ... was Birdies

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >There are many eyewitnesses to this torture. How are we to tell them from the liars? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] Birdies

>I know it is very painful to not believed but we both know that is nothing new. Dont let that old pain silence you now. I want to hear your information, as do others here. That pain will never go away until you no longer care whether you are believed or not. The fact of life is that no matter w

Re: [CTRL] Analysis of wealth distribution

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Imagine how much better off those nations would be if the distribution of >wealth and income were broadened into a much larger middle class. Imagine how much better still it would be if the distribution of wealth (and, more importantly, of power) those nati

Re: [CTRL] Al Gore, will fight for your rights, Bush will end them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >We will vote for any third party that makes it to the ballot. No matter who you vote for, government wins. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic sc

[CTRL] on a lighter note . . .

The Y2K Police simulator: http://www.newgrounds.com/police/bike.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid ma

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >It should be noted that the unprocessed leaves of the coca plant are >nowhere >near as potent in their effect that the refined extract called cocaine. People have been chewing coca leaves since the ice age. It has never been shown to have done any of them any

[CTRL] News not on TV

http://sacco.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2393 http://la.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2417 Don't just read about it, watch the video. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propag

Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >less >pronounced...or so I've heard... People tell me that depends on how much you drink. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwe

Re: [CTRL] Reply to Nessie re Sammark reply- No proof, no truth, didn't happen

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > this "recovered memory" nonsense >needs to be exposed for the sham it is and not trumpeted as some sort of >breakthrough science. Some, even many, cases are indeed fraudulent. That doesn't mean all are or that the concept is invalid. It just means there ar

Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >But I am curious as to why Jews would not believe in Satan. Many Jews are atheists. In America, less than half of all Jews are observant. It is inaccurate and misleading to confuse the religion with the People as a whole. Some are religious and some aren't.

[CTRL] Fwd: [CTRL] FBI Agent Admits Lying to Make Los Alamos Scientist Look Guilty

from: http://209.61.156.12/Article.asp?ID=751 Click Here: http://209.61.156.12/Article.asp?ID=751">Capitol Hill Blue: FBI Agent Admits Lying to Ma_ - FBI Agent Admits Lying to Make Los Alamos Scientist Look Guilty Friday, August 18, 2000 By JAMES STERNGOLD ALBUQUERQUE -- An F.B.I. agent admitt

Re: [CTRL] Reply to Patty Rehn-"proof"-- documenting anecdotal evidence

nly this time the fault will be ours. > Nessie, would you believe your daughter if she told you that daddy had been molesting her? Only if I had a daughter and I had been molesting her. You're new here, so you may not know it, but I'm a guy. I have one kid, a son. He's

Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's

want the government to protect your kid's health. I say, protect your own kid's health. There's a lot fewer unpleasant side effects that way. >> This is an idiotic statement Nessie. It's not more important than water, or air, or health, or even good sex. That's a matt

Re: [CTRL] No proof, no truth, didn't happen

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > I can just picture you saying to your own child, "Sorry Toddler Dearest, >the medical exam was not conclusive. You'll have to provide more solid >evidence next time you tell me Uncle Dearest put something where it didn't >belong. Uncle Dearest will conti

Re: [CTRL] No proof, no truth, didn't happen

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >And if that's all we can do - then we don't deserve to exist on this >planet >or any other. If that's the best we can do then we are so f---ing >pitiful it >makes me sick every day of my entire f---ing life. We can't go whip up a lynch mob without first ha

Re: [CTRL] "proof"-- documenting anecdotal evidence

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Kris > >Thank you for your encouragement. I want to second that. Sticking up for TIs takes a lot of intestinal fortitude. Not only does it bring on the risk of being targeted oneself, but it almost always subjects one to the ridicule of the uninformed. I mu

Re: [CTRL] "proof"-- documenting anecdotal evidence

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >The data is being entered into a computer database . . .etc. This is an excellent approach to analyzing anecdotal data. It will probably lead to significant discoveries. It is unlikely, however, to lead to any convictions. You're going to have to catch perps

[CTRL] Minneapolis Copwatch report

- Original Message - >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:51:22 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Minneapolis Copwatch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Fwd: Forum Threat, Undercover Thugs >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks this is giovanni from Minneapolis Copw

Re: [CTRL] No proof, no truth, didn't happen

> > Do we tell her, "Tough - you can't prove it - we won't believe it. Go >away, get a job, get a life." Consider the alternative. Do we really want to believe every story we hear, and act like it's true? What about the ones that later turn out not to be true? This isn't about one single ind

[CTRL] "citizen-units" and "Childsaver"

-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 13:56:42 -0700 From: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FBI Listens to Carnivore Criticism WASHINGTON, D.C. (Routers) -- FBI Director Louis Freeh announced today that the Federal Bureau of Investigation takes t

Re: [CTRL] I have to ask this

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I'm growing some catnip now. Jeez, that stuff is hard to grow! I've >had some sitting out in some potting soil for months and it's barely >grown an inch. You are keeping your cats away from it, right? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISC

[CTRL] Fwd: IMC NEWS BLAST | Wednesday, August 16, 2000

IMC NEWS BLAST | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 A compilation of breaking stories, photos, video, and audio from the Independent Media Center on Wednesday, August 16, 2000. http://www.indymedia.org SPECIAL EDITION: The IMC Reports from the streets outside the Democratic National Convention in Los

Re: [CTRL] No proof, no truth, didn't happen

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I must conclude from your legitimate analysis that we live in a world >where >some real events are untrue because they cannot be proven to have >happened. I only believe what I see with my own eyes, and not all of that, not by a long shot. If I can't even tru

Re: [CTRL] Reply to Nessie re: Franklin Cover-up

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >So the story of using Boys Town for this purpose makes perfect sense to >me. It makes perfect sense to me too. That alone, however, does not make it true. Unimpeachable evidence makes it true, nothing else. Sometimes, things that make sense turn out to be t

Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's Vision forAmerica

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >NOBODY has the RIGHT to kill people for money. That's a seperate issue. >So even if you are brainwashed >enough to say that human life is cheap enough to snuff simply because >someone >makes that choice, NO ONE has the right to profit from death. No on

Re: [CTRL] a blueprint for Conspiracy

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >But I question the statement that Jews don't believe in Satan Discussing what Jews believe is racist. All Jews do not believe the same thing. Some Jews believe one thing and other Jews believe something else. This is also true of Poles, Thais, Ashantis, Austr

Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's Vision for America

> >This is why the mass >murderers in the handgun and tobacco industries The handgun industry is not in the business of murder, mass or otherwise. The handgun industry is in the business of saving lives and preventing rape and robbery. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIM

Re: [CTRL] An American Dictatorship: Ralph Nader's Vision for America

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >They couch their >death business in terms of personal rights, and freedom to get addicted to >the products which will kill their buyers. It's your body. You have a right to get addicted or to kill yourself if that's what you want to do. I don't advise it.

Re: [CTRL] [3] There\'s Something About Henry

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >I have always thought there were some fishy connections between certain >cult/serial killers: The Robin Gecht/John Gacy being the most obvious. Aside from th possibility of cult behavior, let's not forget the economics of murder. The Lakes and Engs of this

Re: [CTRL] Fungus GM Foods

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >There was a particularly good year the previous year and >many potatoes were left in the field. If you know that the >potato is a member of the nightshade family and that the >whole plant will turn poisonous with age. By leaving them >in the fields to dec

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > > >I am proud of my German heritage. Good for you. Anybody who doesn't want Germans on their side is a fool. Compared to Americans, they're moral giants. Except for a handful of token bomb runs on Yugoslavia, the German military hasn't waged war in half a ce

Re: [CTRL] Fungus GM Foods

> >What could have caused the Irish Potato famine? English imperialism. Every single day of the Famine, Ireland exported food. Why? Because the Irish people had to raise money to pay rent on their own land to their English landlords. Meanwhile, they themselves went hungry. "God made the blight

Re: [CTRL] Werner von Braun

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Anyone in a wartime economy which imposes wage and price controls and >commands >workers to work in specific industries is really a "slave laborer". Von Braun's slaves at Dora were hung with piano wire when they weren't quick enough to complete a task or if t

Re: [CTRL] [MC] Fwd: [CTRL] Gunderson

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >Both Terry Reed and DeCamp and Colby, >Decamps main backer, all had ties. which are? > >Gene Wheaton has been shown to be a >mis/dis info specialist-and with possible ties to "wet" actions. By whom? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DIS

Re: [CTRL] [MC] Fwd: [CTRL] Gunderson

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >Former Nebraska state Sen. John DeCamp, mentioned earlier, has been on the ritual-abuse circuit for some time now, talking about his 1992 book The Franklin Cover-Up, Help me out here, gang. What's the scoop on Decamp and his book? Ligit or bogus? You tell me.

Re: [CTRL] I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >if a man pays for a drug to give to an unknowing woman with the intention >of forcing her to have >sex with him Yeah, you're right, if she's unknowing. If she knows, she's a whore and the drugs are her pay, or part of it, anyway. This is not an uncommon oc

Re: [CTRL] Gunderson

> >According to Gunderson: "Does anybody have any >idea what a blue-eyed, blond-haired eleven- or twelve-year girl would sell >for? Fifty thousand dollars." When I hear a guy talk like that it makes me wonder where he got the figure. Who told him? http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARAT

Re: [CTRL] I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

>If anything, it would seem that Slick Willy would be the purveyor of drugs like Ecstacy to unwitting bimbos, not the other way around... So what are you saying here? Are you saying that if the guy pays for the drugs, that makes the woman unwitting? Not where I'm from. Where I'm from, that makes

[CTRL] Fwd: Explosive CIA-Mafia-Politicians drug-smuggling link Shadow & Peoples Convent

For Immediate Release, August 11, 2000 Noon, PDT The Truth Force Amnesty Commission (TFAC) announces explosive presentations by former LAPD and DEA officers, and an attorney suing CIA and DoJ over their acknowledged complicity in the crack cocaine epidemic, on Aug12 & 15 at LA Peoples and Shadow

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