[CTRL] Fwd: S99-80, Day 54, Update 1 (May 16; 0:15AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. We invite you to visit our Photo Album section (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/tim-stmt.html + click on "Photo Album" hyperlink) which has just been updated with many new and dramatic photos of NATO's war on Serbia. Issue S99-80, Day 54, Update 1 --- May 16, 1999; 0:30AM EDT HEADLINES Korisa 1. Horror at Site of Another "Precision Blunder" (also see new photos at our Web site) Brussels 2. Another Good Day at the Office, NATO Says After Killing Almost 100 Albanian Civilians Beijing 3. Chinese Students: " Go to Yugoslavia!" (to Defend China) Sweden4. From Sweden with Love: Another Group of Volunteers for Cause of Truth Texas 5. From Texas with Love: Oil for the Serbs! Philadelphia 6. Two Dozen Kosovo Refugees Gave Fake Names; Four Are Detained, Awaiting Deportation Hearings Belgrade 7. At Least 74 NATO Aircraft Shot Down? Boston 8. Curtis/Hobbes: May NATO's Life "Truly Be 'Nasty, Brutish, and Short'!" -- 1. Horror at Site of Another "Precision Blunder" (also see new photos at our Web site) BRUSSELS, May 15 - "Horror at site of another precision blunder," is the headline of the Sunday edition of The Independent, a London daily. Reporting from Korisa (Kosovo), where NATO yesterday killed nearly 100 Albanian civilians (see , The Independent correspondent, Julian Manyon, witnessed the devastation following the bombing: "The bodies had been removed, but scraps of charred flesh remained in an area littered with smashed tractors. A ghastly smell of decomposition hung above the wreckage. Mattresses, cooking pots and bundles of clothing - the personal belongings of the victims of Nato's latest blunder in the Kosovo air campaign - lay scattered all around. [...] Two small open yards, each the size of a tennis court, face each other on either side of the highway between Prizren and Djakovica. All the ordnance fell inside the yards. A bomb-damaged sign over one of them indicated that it was a store for agricultural products." It was here, according to the accounts of survivors. that some 600 refugees came down from their hiding place in the hills, three days before the bombing, hoping to return to their homes. Before NATO's cluster bombs started to tear them to shreds. You can check out the latest reports by The Independent at: http://www.independent.co.uk/ -- 2. Another Good Day at the Office, NATO Says After Killing Almost 100 Albanian Civilians BRUSSELS, May 15 - Meanwhile, NATO brass characterized the events on Friday (when the Korisa massacre took place) as another good day at the office. Here's an excerpt from a report by another reporter of The Independent, Robert, Fisk, filed after the NATO daily press briefing in Brussels: "A massacre on the road to Prizren, more than 100 civilians - most of them ethnic Albanians - torn apart in the village of Korisa, stories of women and children ripped apart by NATO cluster bombs. And how did NATO kick off its three o'clock follies yesterday afternoon? Without a single word about these frightful reports, not a single bloody word of astonishment or compassion. Instead, Jamie Shea and his Luftwaffe general droned on about NATO's successful operations over Kosovo. 'They went very well,' Major-General Walter Jertz informed us. 'It was another very effective day of operations.' In Saigon, during the Vietnam War, they had the five o'clock follies. In the 1991 Gulf War, the Americans boasted of their military successes at the four o'clock follies. In Brussels, NATO's follies start at three o'clock. But yesterday, the Shea and Jertz show was theatre of the obscene. All of us in the darkened Joseph Luns auditorium at NATO headquarters were holding our breath. Several journalists (the television coverage never shows this, of course) shook their heads in disbelief. There had, it seemed, been no safe passage in Kosovo. We were thinking of the first reports coming in - of NATO cluster bombs bursting amid 500 Albanian refugees, many of them children, of a massacre that would make even the Prizren-Djakovica slaughter in April small scale. We wanted to know about those who were young but would never grow. But no, General Jertz of the Luftwaffe - or the 'German Air Force' as we are for some reason encouraged to call it here - wanted to tell us that there had been 679 NATO missions over Yugoslavia in 24 hours, that there had been
[CTRL] OEN 5/16/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From Dark Nature (1995) by Lyall Watson I am also disturbed and intrigued by one very strange aspect of an attack reported by Goodall. It involved several adult male chimps who came across a female from another group with her infant on the edge of their territory. She did what any female chimpanzee will do in such circumstances, made submissive sounds and reached out gently to touch one of the males in reassurance. His response was extraordinary. He not only rebuffed her overture and moved quickly out of reach, but performed a sort of exorcism, an act of real and ritual purification very reminiscent of Pontius Pilate. He picked up a handful of leaves and vigorously scrubbed his fur precisely where she had touched him. This behavior is a crucial clue to what happened next. All the males, acting in concert, surrounded the female, attacked her brutally, seized her infant and killed it. This incident shocked the human field workers at Gombe, because the attackers and their victim had once been close as members of a single community. "By separating themselves," said Jane Goodall, "they forfeited the right to be treated as group members--instead they were treated as strangers." De Waal . . . went further, suggesting that the behavior was extreme, not simply because the participants were now strangers, but because they had once been friends. That adds another dimension to the encounter, one that will resonate with anyone who has been through an acrimonious divorce or remains part of a family split by feud. Aggression against an outsider is part of business as usual, something genetic, not just condoned but expected, a sort of "weak evil." But the introduction of previous relationship, which is not something humans or chimpanzees easily forget, adds a sense of betrayal to the mix, making it possible, often inevitable, that things will become very ugly indeed--part of the awesome pattern of "strong evil." The tendency for civil wars to be more vicious, more sadistic, than wars fought between strangers is well known. And Yugoslavia and Rwanda ought to be potent reminders to those who had forgotten. = The Wrath of MI6 MI6 Targets Harrod's Owner Fayed in Spy Caper The Di is caste MOHAMED FAYED, the billionaire owner of Harrods, will face an investigation by the security services this week over the naming of alleged MI6 officers on the Internet. The inquiry will focus on his links with Richard Tomlinson,the former MI6 officer who is suspected of drawing up the list, and Lyndon LaRouche, who published the list on his Executive Intelligence Review (EIR) website . The investigation will be prompted by a written question and early-day motion from Gerald Howarth, a Tory MP and a member of the Commons' home affairs select committee. Mr Howarth intends to ask Jack Straw, the Home Secretary, whether Mr Fayed will be questioned by the authorities looking into the publication of officers' names. He will also table an early-day motion asking Mr Fayed to explain his relationships with Mr Tomlinson and Mr LaRouche. Mr Fayed came under suspicion after Mr Tomlinson denied placing the material on the Internet. Yesterday Mr Tomlinson, 36, speaking from a hiding place on the Swiss-French border, also denied leaking sensitive material to Mr Fayed. He offered to return to Britain and face investigation provided he is guaranteed bail. Mr Fayed, who earlier this month had his application for British citizenship turned down, has denied any role in the disclosure of 117 names, including officers working abroad whose lives could be endangered. A spokesman said Mr Fayed "did not condone the publication of the names of secret agents which could expose them to danger". However, in a live television interview for GMTV in January, Mr Fayed disclosed the names of two men he alleged were MI6 officers and two others he claimed were agents. Senior Government officials confirmed that Mr Fayed's links with both men will come under scrutiny. If Mr Fayed was found to have passed on classified information for publication he could be prosecuted. The Telegraph has learnt that Mr Fayed secretly met Mr Tomlinson, who was sacked in 1995 by MI6 after four years' probationary service, at the Egyptian tycoon's villa in St Tropez last August. After the meeting, Mr Tomlinson gave evidence to Hervé Stephan, the French magistrate investigating the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, Dodi Fayed and Henri Paul in a Paris car crash. His evidence supported Mr Fayed's belief that they were murdered. The MI6 list published on the EIR website was accompanied by an article highlighting Mr Fayed's attempts to prove that the crash was not an accident. The Telegraph has also uncovered links between Mr Fayed and Mr LaRouche. In the past EIR, Mr
[CTRL] FROM THE LITTLETON CRISIS TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL - May 1999
http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/littletone5-99.html Title: FROM THE LITTLETON CRISIS TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL - May 1999 FROM THE LITTLETON CRISIS TO GOVERNMENT CONTROL: How Clinton fueled the crisis he now promises to solve by Berit Kjos We must help parents to pass on their values to their children, announced President Clinton in a Rose Garden message on April 30, 1999. We must help parents fulfill their most important responsibilities. Some parents may like to hear that the president will help us do our job. Others shudder. They don't want Clinton's army of social engineers to tamper with their family's values. They don't trust his attempts to fix the social conditions that led to the Littleton shooting. And they fear that Clinton would use this crisis, as he has every other crisis, to persuade the masses to accept more government control. A glimpse back into the seventies and eighties shows how Clinton helped create the conditions that weakened the role of parents. For example, his touchy-feely Governor's School -- an annual summer school for selected Arkansas high school students -- modeled many of the same psycho-social strategies for changing values that were used in Littleton. Founded in 1979, it infused its lessons with values-clarification, socialist economics, radical environmentalism, and shocking suggestions designed to free students from parental authority and traditional values. Author Ellen Gilchrist, a guest speaker at the school, summarized this particular objective well. Students do me a favor, she told the selected crowd of Arkansas youths. Totally ignore your parents. Listen to them, but then forget them. Because you need to start using your own stuff, your real stuff that you have. 1 In his April 30 speech, Clinton also touted the mental health system being implemented in America under the guidance of the World Health Organization (See The UN Plan for Your Mental Health): 2 Because many parents need help in recognizing the signs of illness in their children, we're working to expand access to mental health care for children of all ages. Next month, Mrs. Gore will host the first White House Conference on Mental Health. We are also working to expand counseling, mentoring and mental health services in our schools. In the context of public health management and surveillance,3 mental health deals primarily with politically correct thinking, not mental illness. According to a government definition, Mental health refers to how a person thinks, feels, and acts when faced with life's situations. It is how people look at themselves, their lives, and the other people in their livesand explore choices. 4 The old ways of thinking don't fit the new paradigm or worldview. Global citizenship requires collective thinking, not individual thinking. People must learn to see themselves as part of the group, and their worth depends on service to the community. Solidarity and consensus are in. Christianity, individual worth, and national sovereignty are out. OLD PARADIGM NEW PARADIGM Beliefs Based on Bible New Age, earth-centered blend View of self Individual Part of a greater whole Values Based on Bible Human idealism based on consensus It's up to our schools, media, Hollywood, and all the other parts of UNESCO's lifelong learning program to conform the masses to the new ideology -- and thus promote. . . the optimal development of the mental health of the population. 5 Professor Benjamin Bloom, called the Father of OBE, summarized their mission well: The purpose of education and the schools is to change the thoughts, feelings and actions of students. 6 This process of change includes strategies that produce cognitive dissonance or moral confusion. In Clinton's Governor's School, the students were immersed into a seductive fantasy world that made traditional values seem unreal. The consensus process forced them to conform to a radical idealism that built hatred, not tolerance, for contrary opinions. So, by the time they left the school, an imagined utopia seemed more real than the actual world. As in Soviet brainwashing, they had been weaned from truth, facts, logic and reality. Their conscience had been twisted, their emotions destabilized, and their minds prepared to be manipulated. Would this be considered mental health by our global managers? The transition back to reality -- to home, family and normal life was painful. For some it was devastating. When I came back home, I sort of wrote a suicide note to myself, confessed LeAndrew Crawford, a former student. Not actually wanting to kill myself, but wanting to kill the reality of what society had been teaching me for so long. . . .
Re: [CTRL] Is this the beginning of the ground war?
-Caveat Lector- Correct. The huge gray dock landing ships, their mantis-like aft docks furled, now sit steel upon the Chesapeake. An 'unusual' amount of small landing craft, of the Private Ryan type, both infantry and armor, are being loaded at the Amphib base. The sixteen thousand mentioned is near division strength. Safire calls for three armored divisions. No general in his right mind would place three armored divisions there without the very least of one infantry division each for protection. Six times 20,000 is a 120,000 ground force. It will build gradually of course. Michael Norfolk, Virginia nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- 5/15/99 Sixteen thousand marines and a contingent of British special forces are preparing to go to Kosovo. Is this the beginning of the ground war? It appears that we shall soon find out. Joshua2 = Subject: [CTRL] [Fwd: Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia] Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:43:36 -0700 From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Caveat Lector- 5/13/99 I don't know how to take this post. I know that troops are being prepared for invasion. 16,000 marines, the shock troops of Transnational business interests are going in according to MSNBC. Normally I wouldn't distribute something like this as fact, but if true we can bear witness to a crime against humanity. Please distribute with this disclaimer. Let's hope it's wrong. Joshua2 Original Message Subject: Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:54:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens) snip Fwd: A warning on US intentions re Yugoslavia [Posted: 13.05.99 (GMT)] I'm forwarding to newsgroups and to some mail addresses the fol- lowing, which I've received just now. - RM. Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:34:00 +0200 From: democrite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Editions =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E9mocrite?= X-Accept-Language: fr,el,ru,es,af Subject: Warning Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:30:01 +0200 From: Marijana Glisic [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a warning. There is a possibility that NATO is preparing a staged massacre of Albanian refugees to get the excuse to at- tack Yugoslavia from all sides and in that way defy the decisions made by the US Congress. We could witness new Markale. There are indications that NATO is preparing the ground offensive on Yugoslavia as a whole and not only on Kosovo. According to the information received from Macedonia and Albania all the Albanian refugees are evacuating from the border areas and are being re- placed with NATO troops. Romania, Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria Bosnia, Macedonia and Albania were all forced to sign the documents allowing the NATO troops to launch the ground attack from their territories. CNN has sent three full crews to Albania equipped with satellite broadcasting equipment. Knowing their reputation they always get sent to the crisis area "before" anything starts so that they can prepare for the coverage of the "unexpected" event. There are also indica- tions that NATO is preparing to arrange a false "massacre of the innocent Albanian refugees" that will be used as a excuse for the attack. Our sources say that it will be probably done as a bombing of a refugee camp in Albania or Macedonia. [So far the forwarded message] Rolf M. = Subject: Re: RAF sent to Corsica, Paras Gurkhas to the Balkans Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:12:33 -0400 From: "W. Kiernan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted Yahoo News: ...The Government has ordered some of Britain's elite fighting troops to prepare to go into Kosovo as Nato suggested the latest civilian casualties in the province could have been victims of a Serb "human shield" operation...The announcement came as Nato has admitted that it attacked the Kosovo village of Korisa where the Serbs claim at least 79 ethnic Albanian refugees died. But alliance spokesman Jamie Shea insisted they had hit a legitimate military target and hinted the ethnic Albanians could have been ordered into a troop area by the Serbs... and also off BBC News, who never ever lie: In the developing row over the Nato attack on a Kosovo village, the United States has accused the Serbs of using ethnic Albanians as so-called "human shields". The latest Yugoslav news agency figures say 81 civilians were killed in Thursday's overnight bombing of the village of Korisa. US Pentagon Spokesman Ken Bacon
Re: [CTRL] Bubonic Plague Confirmed in Namibia
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 15 May 1999, Crimm Sun wrote: Hrmm. Well, the only reason I thought the bubonic plague had something to do with washing was that I remember being taught that sometime in public school. I can't remember when. I spoke with a friend of mine today and he also remembers being taught that, and he and I did not go to the same elementary or middle schools. Probably a case of your teachers wishing to ingrain the habit of washing your hands, and so they said something like "You have to wash your hands, or else you'll get the plague!" I remember 'The Plague' being the generic bugaboo that was held up as the result of one: not washing their hands, not covering their mouth and nose when sneezing, sticking something in one's mouth if it had fallen to the ground, sharing someone's comb, swimming in the polluted river, etc. Hardly the same thing as 'being taught' about the real causes of plague...I think you must have been sleeping thru biology class... June === Let's go fly a kite and send it soaring! - " Mary Poppins " === *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Korisa: What Happened? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- KORISA: WHAT HAPPENED? == (CNNS, 05/16/99) -- Korisa is a village in southwest Kosovo. On Friday, May 14th, NATO attacked Korisa. Something went wrong. At last count, 100 civilians were killed by NATO bombs. "If confirmed, the toll would be the highest number of civilian deaths in a single strike since Nato's air campaign started on March 24," says the South China Morning Post. [1] Since the death count from the Korisa tragedy is expected to climb well above 100, the Korisa bombing now ranks top-of-the-charts for civilian massacres in the Yugoslav war. Something went wrong. That much is known. But beyond that, reports conflict. South China Morning Post cites one survivor who "said Korisa was packed with about 500 refugees who had been hiding in woods for the past 10 days." [2] Many of the dead had been sleeping on their tractors and trailers. [3] NATO and the U.S. don't exactly say that the victims were being used as "human shields" protecting an alleged military target. Instead, they suggest the "human shields" concept."'It certainly looks like this was arranged' as a human shield situation, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon told reporters..." [4] German defense minister Detlef Puhl "told journalists there were 'indications that Milosevic had used the tactic of human shields which had already often been used previously.'" [5] And anyway, asks NATO spokesperson Peter Daniel, "Why were those people not sleeping in their houses?" [6] As if answering Mr. Daniel's question, an article in the Washington Post explains that the Korisa victims had fled their homes to escape danger from the raging war in Kosovo. They figured they'd be safer in the woods. "Survivors of the midnight bombing, many from Korisa, said they had spent months alternately fleeing to the mountains and returning home. After spending the past month or so in the forest, many decided to call it quits. The army was battling the KLA in and around their village and houses were on fire. They decided to leave for Albania." [7] The Washington Post article adds that "Nothing at the scene, nor descriptions from survivors of the attack, provided evidence of a military target." [8] But the U.S. and NATO say the Korisa bombing was conducted against "a legitimate military target." [9] Adding to the confusion is the question of whether the NATO bombs hit their target, missed their target, or were "seduced" away from their target. Or if the tragedy was caused by cluster bombs, which scatter over a wide area, then the NATO bombs could have done both -- hit and missed their target -- at the same time. And also, was there a legitimate target to begin with? Korisa: *What happened*? There are some suggestions that the NATO bombs missed their target (if it was a real target and not due to a "bad map.") The Washington Post headlines today that "In Kosovo, Targets Are Illusive," and goes on to explain how high-flying pilots have trouble interpreting what they see, miles below. [10] Then too, sometimes the "precision bombs" don't work right and go off-course. Like off-course into Bulgaria, for instance. South China Morning Post now reports that "a missile hit Bulgarian territory yesterday 110km northwest of Sofia and 10km east of the border with Yugoslavia but caused no injuries or damage. Two other missiles have fallen in and near Sofia, the capital." [11] Scrambling to deter suspicion that NATO has goofed again, their spokespeople, as well as the U.S. State Department, at first were hinting that the Korisa tragedy was caused by Serb artillery fire. But NATO and the State Department now seem to be backing away from that explanation. The Serbs insist that "the Yugoslav army was not active in the area" and say that foreign reporters can confirm this, based on their interviews with survivors. [12] It is clear that there is already an enormous smoke screen surrounding what actually happened in Korisa. A new term, "carbonated bodies," is being used to describe the scene of horror at Korisa. Reportedly, a journalist with Agence France Presse "counted today, in the mortuary in Prizren, 48 corpses, carbonated and torn by forbidden cluster bombs," and that, among the slain were many children. [13] One of the survivors described how "a great number of carbonated bodies were carried away this morning in sacks." [14] Asks syndicated columnist Arianna Huffington, "A passenger train, a refugee convoy, a friendly neighboring country, a bus crossing a bridge, a hospital, a marketplace, a Chinese embassy. What's next -- a Kosovar in a pear tree?" [15] Huffington also describes dreadful conditions in refugee camps in Albania, where US/NATO "humanitarianism" has
[CTRL] US News World Reveals Strategic Resources Reason for War???!
-Caveat Lector- Listening to the Mark Scott talk show in Detroit (WXYT) I heard that US News and World Report printed an article or editorial by a CFR member that reveals the real motives and goals behind the Kosovo war. Does anyone have this article handy or know how to find it fast? *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: http://a-albionic.com/search.html ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Video Finder, Free Catalogs, Links, Sweepstakes, What-Not: http://www.msen.com/~daugh/store.htm *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] It looks like ground war.
-Caveat Lector- 5/16/97 Dear Costas, It seems like they are moving towards a ground war. I thought you should know. I am very sorry for the behavior of my government, and the ignorance and apathy of the American people. Joshua2 Subject: [CTRL] (Fwd) Re: [CTRL] Is this the beginning of the ground war? Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 02:29:48 -0800 From: "Theodor Parada, MD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Caveat Lector- Yesterday I had the opportunity of meeting a good old merchant marine who is in the process of leaving from SF, to work transporting "thousands" of Humvee vehicles to you guessed it, Klintoon's war!! = Theodor S.Parada, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID 0x537C4815 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Brit Views (Blair)
-Caveat Lector- From the Independent (UK) www.independent.co.uk/sindy/stories Leaders Worse than a mistake The death of as many as 100 Albanian villagers in a Nato bombing raid on southern Kosovo may give Mr Blair pause, but it seems unlikely. Nothing so far has dented his Churchillian resolve. He will not rest, he has told us, until good has triumphed over evil. There will be setbacks along the way, to be sure, but "those who want a war that is perfect, with no mistakes, no errors, no civilians hurt, are not realistic about war". Let us be realistic, then. Nato's latest attack on civilians was a mistake, but it was an inevitable one. It is what happens when airmen are required to launch attacks from 15,000 feet. Perhaps, as Nato says, the target was "legitimate" and perhaps cluster bombs were not used. Nato spokesmen do not deliberately lie. Nevertheless, from the evidence so far available, what happened on Thursday night in Korisa borders on the criminal. That much, indeed, may be said about any action in this conflict: Nato's war against Serbia contravenes international law. The illegality of the war is one reason why this newspaper has opposed it from the start. There are other, equally pressing reasons. On 28 March, four days after the first wave of bombers went in, we wrote that no matter how bad things were in Kosovo, Nato's action would make them worse: the bombing would serve as a cover for death squads; the deployment of ground troops, should it occur, would sacrifice good lives in the name of bad policies. We pledged our support for British servicemen, but at the same time we insisted that such support did not exempt politicians from condemnation. The Prime Minister does not like to be condemned. Even mild criticism agitates him. Last week, after Michael Howard had spoken of the "gross incompetence" of the Chinese embassy bombing, Mr Blair accused the Opposition - and by implication all those who are against the war - of undermining the morale of the armed services. It can't be long before he starts to tell us that careless talk costs lives. For there is an element of moral blackmail as well as hysteria in the Prime Minister's words. He would like to silence criticism by suggesting, however obliquely, that it puts the lives of British servicemen at risk: after all, demoralised soldiers and airmen are more vulnerable than those who are cheerful and confident. In fact, the people whose lives are seriously at risk at the moment are the Albanians and the Serbs. Not that we are impressed by Mr Howard's attack on the Government. The Tories have all along supported the bombing: they have backed the Government's aims and its means. They knew, as we all knew, that smart bombs would kill civilians and that the wrong targets would be hit. It is much too late for Mr Howard and the Tories to become scrupulous, far less contemptuous of Mr Blair's running of the war (not, incidentally, that Mr Blair has much to do with the running of what is an American show). All Mr Howard is doing now is to make political capital out of squalid tragedy. It may be what he is paid to do as an Opposition politician, but it would be foolish to take anything he says about this war seriously. It would be foolish, too, and disgusting, for opponents of the war to yield to moral triumphalism. Many good people support this war. They believe that it is a just response to Milosevic's abominable cruelty to the Kosovar Albanians. We do not. We believe that Milosevic's worst excesses in Kosovo have been made possible by this war; that a war begun to avert a human catastrophe has in fact created a human catastrophe. Milosevic alone is guilty of the crime of ethnic cleansing, but Nato has acted as his enabler. Today, however, the emphasis is on Nato's victims, not on Milosevic's. Last week, by cruel irony, Mr Blair accused the BBC of ignoring the plight of ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. They won't be this week, Prime Minister. Citizen Shame From the beginning of 2000 a new and important subject will be taught in our schools: citizenship. The Government's declared purpose in placing this subject at the heart of the new curriculum is "to produce civilised and decent citizens". In a nation which has recently seen its very antithesis in an outburst of nail-bomb hatred, we would all surely say "amen" to that. Cynical, alarmist and comic commentators, though, have been quick to pick up on the constitutional significance of the term: the very title "citizenship" suggests that New Labour no longer thinks of us as subjects of an (albeit constitutional) monarch, but as citizens of a self- modernising state. And many might say "amen" to that, too. Unfortunately, announcing high moral standards and ordering their implementation doesn't work. Only last week we learnt that after years of "personal and social education", th e stable-mate of citizenship education, our teenagers have more abortions and sexually transmitted diseases than those of
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: -Caveat Lector- snip Wealth is NOT energy. Regard$, --MJ It's not an analogy at all. Wealth is the storage of energy. It is stored in whatever form the wealth takes. That depends on the culture. Everyone shares a common belief as to what is valuable and therefore worth trading time and work for. The value in wealth is precisely because it gets an expenditure of physical energy from others. In the forms of work and compliance. That is why the rich have power. Power is focussed or accumulated energy. The more wealth you have, the more power you have. This is amplified ( leveraged ) in the Capitalist system. The power of wealth is utilized to get more wealth. This is the fatal flaw of the system. It GUARANTEES concentration of wealth to the wealthy. When most of the wealth in the system is owned or controlled by a small group, then that leaves less or little wealth in the system for everyone else to either fight over or share. This causes societal strain. It first shows up as crime. Any long term successful system MUST PREVENT THE ACCUMULATION OF LARGE STORES OF WEALTH TO PREVENT THE CYCLE OF SOCIAL DISINTEGRATION. The period of social disintegration is not pleasant. Ask your relatives who lived through the depression, or ask the Russians and Indonesians, or even ask the modern Japanese. It is a period of devolution. It took WWII to kick start the economies that were interdependent with the US's and Europe's. War is the second most serious flaw of capitalism. The system overproduces and saturates available markets. It then requires new markets. (Like China.) War is also an excellent tool for reducing large quantities of stuff. Cities contain large quantities of stuff. Bombs destroy cities which contain lots of stuff. Brown Root is one of the worlds largest construction firms. It has a five year contract to rebuild northern Albania. If NATO is successful in destroying Yugoslavia even more than it already has since 1990, then Brown Root will have a contract that includes Greater Albania which includes either half or all of Kosovo. This is ( as usual,) a capitalist war with a mercenary socialist political elite. War is good for profits. Profits are the lifeblood of the corporations. A certain percentage of money from the corporations' wealth is channeled through the political system associated with the capitalist economy, and gets the politicians to channel tax moneys back to the corporations through direct purchases or government contracts for services. The return on a corporation's political investment is astronomical in the case of weapons companies, and slightly more modest in other areas. War materiel doesn't get used up like washing machines and cars do. They only get used up in large quantities during a war. A good time to have a war, is when there is a surplus in the economy, and your enemy is much smaller than you. That way the politicians can direct " surplus " moneys from Social Security to the military industrial oligopoly without fear of backlash or rebellion . War is necessary for Capitalism's Capitalists to roll over stock. It is only incidental that so many people die. It is only collateral damage. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Treason in the U.S. Senate
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: -Caveat Lector- Treason in the U.S. Senate; Republicans Vote for Gun Control -- Sen. Smith and Enzi stand alone in defending 2nd Amendment I told you so didn't I? It's over boys. Time to take up basket weaving. ACTION: Fax or e-mail Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) and thank him for defending your rights (fax: 202-224-1353; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Residents of Wyoming should also thank Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY) for standing in support of the Second Amendment (fax: 202-228-0359; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). These two men are sure to be attacked for the courage of their no-compromise position. Be sure to look to the bottom of the page for some talking points for your Senators. (Friday, May 14, 1999) -- With anti-gun Democrats on the offensive, Republicans yesterday retreated and gave up significant 2nd Amendment ground. On two separate occasions, scores of Republicans crossed party lines to support gun control proposals. And on a third vote, several Republicans crossed over to give anti-gun Senators Schumer and Feinstein a victory in their efforts to ban the importation of high-capacity magazines. The words "shall not be infringed"-- the unmistakably clear language of the 2nd Amendment-- were repeatedly ignored. It's downhill from here gun loonies. Bob Smith Mike Enzi Stand Alone in Opposing Gun Bans and Registration; Alone in Opposing Chuck Schumer * Instant Registration Checks. The Senate voted 94-3 to allow this amendment to proceed. (Senators Inhofe (R-OK), Smith (NH) and Enzi (WY) were the only ones voting right.) This amendment will force the instant registration check system upon gun sales that occur between PRIVATE sellers and PRIVATE buyers at gun shows. The number one danger here-- besides being an infringement of the 2nd Amendment-- is the threat of gun owner registration. According to government studies from 1989 onwards, any background check can lead to registration, despite legal prohibitions. If this provision becomes law, expect anti-gunners to start complaining about the next Brady "loophole"-- that is, private individuals buying and selling guns outside of a gun show (say, in a home) without a background check. By closing all the "loopholes," gun grabbers can thereby register ALL gun owners in America. Great idea! The sooner the better. They should take gun owners' fingerprints too while registering their guns. And I'm sure they will. * Republicans Preemptively Surrender to Chuck Schumer. Republican Sen. John Ashcroft (MO) introduced the young adult gun ban, while four other Republicans [Hatch (UT), Craig (ID), McCain (AZ) and Gordon Smith (OR)] sponsored the amendment requiring background checks at gun shows. But Republicans weren't the only force in town trying to appease the Democrats. They are not trying to appease the Democrats you moron. They are responding to the FLOOD of negative mail from their constituents when they killed the first bill requiring background checks. This is the will of the people cowboys and cowbettes. The Associated Press reported that "Craig, a member of the National Rifle Association board of directors, said the organization had 'grudgingly' agreed" to the gun show amendment. Republicans Cave in and Help Feinstein Ban Self-defense Ammunition Clips By a voice vote, the Senate yesterday voted to ban the importation of magazines holding more than 10 rounds. (Earlier, the Senate defeated a motion to kill the amendment by a vote of 59-39.) While anti-gun Senators claimed these magazines were impractical for "hunting," they dared not discuss the positive self-defense benefits of these magazines-- like how such clips gave the Korean merchants in Los Angeles the needed firepower to fend off rioters in 1992 when the police were retreating from the riot-torn areas of the city. Republicans who sold out on the magazine ban need to hear from you! Among the 59 supporters were Abraham (MI), Bennett (UT), Chafee (RI), Collins (ME), Coverdell (GA), DeWine (OH), Domenici (NM), Fitzgerald (IL), Frist (TN), Grassley (IA), Gregg (NH), Hutchinson (AR), Lugar (IN), Nickles (OK), Roth (DE), Sessions (AL), Gordon Smith (OR), Voinovich (OH), Warner (VA). Lott Hatch Trying to Squelch Amendments; Dissuade Bob Smith from Offering his Pro-gun Proposal Republicans are now trying to limit the number of remaining amendments that can be offered to Orrin Hatch's juvenile crime bill (S. 254). While he may be denied, Senator Smith (NH) is still trying to offer his lawsuit prevention amendment. On Wednesday, there was some beneficial legislation which passed, including a watered-down version of last year's Smith bill [attempting to curtail FBI tax and registration schemes] and legislation affecting pawn shops and gun dealers. * Remind Senators of their Oath of Office. More votes are expected in the Senate today-- including
[CTRL] Blood Trail: Arkansas to Canada
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/Bloodtrail1.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/Bloodtrail1.html"Blood Trail: Arkansas to Canada /A - Dead Dying Did an Arkansas Governor en route to the White House knowingly profit from the sale of tainted blood to Canada, where as many as 80,000 people today suffer from Hepatitis C and AIDS? = A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/SS/BloodTrail2.html"BLOOD TRAIL PROLOGUE: A Novel by Michael Sulliv /A - In Arkansas, the biggest money for up and coming politicos like Bill and Hillary Clinton is made from the graft involving the Highway Department and the State Prison System. Of course the Governor doesn't touch the graft money directly, it's always supervised, and the money is collected, by a middleman. In Arkansas that man was none other than Vincent Foster, Jr. Blood Trail is the story of how inmates in Arkansas were given drugs in exchange for blood. Among the heavy donors [as much as twice a week] were young male prostitutes knowingly infested with HIV and Hepatitis C. Although written as fiction, anyone who is knowledgeable of the facts can tell you that this very important story told by the author of Blood Trail 'rings of truth'. Michael Galster is the real name of Michael Sullivan who is the Author of Blood Trail. Galster, a medical practitioner, was working in the Arkansas prison system when the blood was being collected. He saw blood being drawn from inmates. He wrote his novel Blood Trail under the pseudonym "Michael Sullivan" before he began his own in-depth investigation of the events. But the comparisons between the unfolding investigation and the book are startling and may hold the key to understanding how and why Vince Foster met a tragic and untimely death. Read a sample of the book's content here on line: BLOOD TRAIL PROLOGUE by Michael Sullivan Ivory woke from the pain. The weight of Cutter's huge body on him was more than he could bear. His fever burned again. He could not open his eyes. The crud that oozed out during his restless sleep cemented them shut and he could not pry them open with his fingertips. The problem had been getting worse for weeks. Ivory fumbled for the jar of water he kept under his side of the bed and dabbed at what was left of his eyelashes. Finally he could see enough to distinguish the faint light drifting through the barred windows at the end of the barracks. Cautiously, he slipped his body from under Cutter's sedated flab. Small chance that the big shit would stir at this early hour, but Ivory couldn't afford to take risks. Cutter was always mean and the lingering effects of the downers would make him meaner. He'd give Ivory a beating for certain if his sleep were disturbed. Cutter looked like a grossly fat black Rottweiler sprawled across the bed. His lower lip sagged and his tongue hung out. Ivory shuddered. Ivory straightened his cramped legs and pulled his prison issued boxers up around his bony hips. There wasn't much to hold them up these days. He shuffled across the sanded pine floor to the toilets. No one else was awake except old Slappy Joe, finishing his cleaning chores. Ivory could hear the grunts and snores of the other inmates beyond the scrimwall that Cutter had erected across his end of the room. The divider was made of old cotton table linens stitched together, weighted with broken broom handles sewn into the hem, and hung from a rafter. This bit of privacy cost Cutter dearly with the guards and attested to his untouchable power within the prison population. Ivory fought to control his morning nausea and squatted at the commode to expel some of the nastiness from his bowels. He cleaned himself and walked over to the sink to wash. He splashed water on his face and stared at himself in the mirror - something he almost never did any more, not like the old days. The changes in his appearance frightened him. The bony arches across his forehead, the sunken cheeks, the dark circles under his stained and weary eyes; all of this stared back at him. He was no longer beautiful. He had always been a loving and sweet boy. His mother's sisters named him Ivory because his skin was smooth and creamy like the keys on an old piano. The women had held him close and babied him and raised him like a little girl until the street took him. He was thirteen then. The boy found that he could turn tricks with a special class of businessmen and make enough money to buy his way out of the slums of east Little Rock. But Ivory developed a special craving for a new form of cocaine that hit the streets in the late 70's. The dealers taught him how to pop it into his arms, then between his fingers and toes, and finally in any vein that would flow. The drug took possession of him, heart and soul, and in short order landed him at Cummins, the huge
[CTRL] Stormbringer
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 20 /A - Laissez Faire City Times May 17, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 20 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Stormbringer by Don Lobo Tiggre Recently, CNN regaled us with images of tornado-devastated Oklahoma and Kansasbut the real twister that may well prove more significant was the decision rendered by the Colorado Court of Appeals in the matter of Laura Kriho (Court of Appeals # 97CA0700). Laura is the first fully-informed jury activist to be convicted for voting her conscience while serving on a jury, the first jurist to be prosecuted for such in 300 years, according to her attorney. The trouble started when Laura was called to serve on a jury in 1996. The case was what the prosecutors surely thought of as an open and shut Meth case. Laura was a hold-out juror, however, and she refused to convict. She also told the other jurors about their power to nullify bad laws and told them about the severe penalty that would befall the accused if she was found guilty (neither of which things had been brought up by the judge, of course). One of those jurors complained to the judge, Gilpin County District Court Judge Henry Nieto, and he, after thinking about it for three months, found Laura guilty of contempt of court in February of 1997. The reason? Laura had failed to disclose during voir dire the fact that shed been tried (judgement deferred) for possession of LSD twelve years earlier. Laura is also a Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA) activist, someone who believes that juries have the right to "nullify" bad laws by refusing to convict people accused of having violated them. Worse yet, she was involved in the Colorado Hemp Initiative Projecthorrors! The problem for Judge Nietowho rendered his decision without benefit of a jurys helpwas that Laura was never asked about her previous trial, nor her intentions to obey his instructions to the jury, nor her involvement in any drug legalization groups during voir dire. Consequently, the Colorado Court of Appeals did the right thing and issued an order reversing Judge Nietos contempt ruling. A Victory for Jury Rights Activists Some of the comments of the appeals court are almost uplifing. Judge Sandra Rothenberg, writing for the majority says: We thus adopt the conclusion in Thomas [a previous case dealing with evidence gathered in the jury room] that the secrecy of jury deliberations is a 'core principle' in the American system of justice, that excursions into the jury deliberation process are anathema to our system, and that jury secrecy may be invaded only under the most carefully delineated circumstances. ... The central principle of Thomas is that the need to preserve the secrecy of jury deliberations requires an investigation of juror misconduct to cease once 'any possibility' arises that the juror is acting during deliberations based on his or her view of the sufficiency of the evidence. We conclude that this remaining evidence, viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, is insufficient as a matter of law to find Kriho in contempt based on her alleged failure to reveal that she opposed the enforcement of drug laws through the courts, and her alleged failure to reveal that she did not intend to follow the judge's instructions on the law. Judge Rothenberg also wrote that Kriho was, "not under a duty to disclose" her association with the Hemp Initiative Project. More background on the Kriho case can be found at http://www.lrt.org/jrp.krihotoc.htm . Now, the state may renew its persecution of Laura Kriho on altered charges, but the essence of the appellate courts decision was a momentous victory for jury rights activists. Judges can continue to tell jurors that they have no right to judge the law, and that they must only determine whether or not the accused has been shown to have broken the law. And judges certainly will continue to do so. However, the judges statements wont matter, as long as jurors know that they are safe to say whatever they want in the jury room, and to also vote their consciences. Not everyone has heard of FIJA, but with on-going publicity, the day may soon come when its almost impossible to get a jury of 12 people together, none of whom have heard of their right to vote based on their own sense of right and wrong. And this opens the door to nullifying bad laws via the jury boxan option increasingly of interest top those whove been frustrated at the ballot box, and are not yet ready to resort to the cartridge box. Is Jury Nullification Good? But is this necessarily good? What if those who maintain that bad laws should be repealed (and not undermined by juries that refuse to convict) are right when they say fully-informed juries will damage the rule of law and destabilize society?
[CTRL] Social Violence, Self-Defense, and the Police State
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 20 /A - Laissez Faire City Times May 17, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 20 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Social Violence, Self-Defense, and the Police State by Sarah Thompson, M.D. In the early 90's, I worked for several years at the Los Angeles County Psychiatric hospital, with the goal of learning more about mental illness and the mentally ill. While I did learn quite a lot about mental illness, much of what I learned didn't come from the patients. From the doctors, I learned that psychiatric diagnosis is more of an art than a reproducible science. I also learned that many psychiatrists are more interested in controlling patients than helping them, and that few have the courage to advocate for patients against the police and repressive government agencies. From living in Los Angeles, I learned that the people we trust to make laws and policies are often less capable of rational thought than those we label "mentally ill". L.A. County Hospital, like the rest of Los Angeles, operated under a set of laws and policies. They provided that law-abiding citizens, including the hospital staff, were prohibited from carrying any means of self-defenseno knives, no guns, not even any pepper spray. It was also presumed that the patients, whether or not they were mentally ill, would obey these laws, so there were almost no metal detectors or on-site security guards, nor any emergency phones, video cameras, or "panic buttons". Any sane person could have predicted the results of these policies and laws. But despite the presence of over a thousand medical and psychiatric "experts", there were apparently no sane people. And so, in the course of less than a month, two doctors were shot, another was held hostage, a nurse was raped, and there were undoubtedly other incidents that never made the news. I left L.A. County after that, but the memories have surfaced many times in the past few months. Earlier this year, an allegedly mentally ill woman entered the KSL TV studios (KSL has a no-guns policy) and was able to wander the building and even go up elevators, shooting at random. Not a single person was able to stop her, until her pistol finally jammed. One person was killed, and anther slightly injured. We're told we're "lucky" that she didn't know how to clear (unjam) the pistol. A few weeks ago, an allegedly mentally ill man entered the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, with a .22 pistol. He was able to murder two people, and wound four more, before the police arrived and fatally shot him. The LDS Church has been vocal about its opinion that "guns are inappropriate on church property". Its solution to the problem is to call for more gun control. A few days later, as you know, two Littleton high school students armed with firearms and bombs, killed thirteen people before allegedly committing suicide. This tragedy occurred in a "gun free school zone", so students, teachers, and other school employees were helpless. Disarming Potential Victims I thought I saw a pattern in what the media insistently label "random" acts, so I did some checking. In February 1995, a fleeing suspect took 14 people hostage in a Taco Bell in South Salt Lake City. To my knowledge, all the fast food and convenience stores in the area have "no guns" policies for their employees. In March 1994, a man armed with a pistol and a bomb took ten people hostage at the Salt Lake City Main Library. After five hours, the suspect was shot and killed by one of the hostagesan off-duty sheriff who was carrying his pistol. Yet the Salt Lake County libraries fought tenaciously to implement a "no-guns" policy, although Utah's preemption law overruled that policy. In September 1991, a man entered Alta View hospital, shot and killed a nurse, and then took nine hostages, including three infants, in the maternity ward. Alta View hospital still maintains an informal "no guns" policy, and its parent company, Intermountain Health Care, regularly lobbies for bans on firearms in hospitals. At least anecdotally, it seems that the favored places for mass shootings are schools, churches, hospitals, post offices and other venues where criminals have reason to expect that their victims are disarmed. But rather than admit the obviousthat by disarming potential victims, gun control encourages this sort of criminal behaviorthere are renewed calls at local, state, and federal levels for more gun control. At the same time, there are calls for creating government databases of the "mentally ill" and requiring doctors to "report" patients. The databases will be used to facilitate new laws that will deprive anyone diagnosed with a mental illness of his right to keep and bear arms, and will allow those deemed "mentally ill" to be forcibly
[CTRL] I Can't Get No Satisfaction - The Oral Rage of the Elite
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 20 /A - Laissez Faire City Times May 17, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 20 Editor Chief: Emile Zola I Can't Get No Satisfaction" The Oral Rage of the Elite by Robert L. Kocher In the world of Freudian psychology, there developed the concepts of oral, anal and similar personalities. Those who are in the arts often enjoy writing about, or analyzing, novels, artwork, and each other in terms of anal retentive/expulsive personalities and so forth. There is a theoretically-based phenomenon, perhaps becoming archaic in terminology in recent years, called the oral personality in which a person is fixated upon, or obsessed by, oral stimulation and gratification. One extension of this is a personality that not only engages in compulsive, but incompletely satisfying, oral activity, but as a general condition, seems not to obtain satisfaction in overall life. The repeated unsuccessful attempts to find satisfaction through devouring life, not only orally, but in general, can develop to a level called oral rage. The condition is like much like Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones used to complain of in his songs: "I can't get no satisfaction." The concept of oral rage may be a little imprecise for suitable understanding at advanced levels, but it is occasionally useful and interesting. There are several aspects of oral rage. One aspect concerns the action of adrenalin produced by fear and anxiety upon the brain hypothalamic nuclei that also control eating and drinking behavior. Competent psychotherapy can intervene in this physiological process. This cannot be examined in depth here. What will be discussed is a broader concept of psychological functioning. Paradoxically, many of the most socially and economically successful people are the most bitter and tormented. Many of them express their bitterness in a diffuse attack upon the American social and economic system to the point of virtually making war on every aspect of American society. The resentment and antagonistic liberalism of many successful actors, musicians, entertainment personalities and other public figures is well known. In contrast to the general population, an incredible 87-89 percent of the news media voted for George McGovern in 1972 as a deliberate slap in this country's face. Nearly 25 years later, another 87 percent to 89 percent of the same professional group voted for Bill Clinton. These were highly paid and highly visible people who ostensibly have everything in the world, but have a bitterness toward this country. Successive generations of wealthy families often degenerate into bitter chaos. Many people who supposedly have everything are the most diffusely frustrated and angry. I don't think at any time in the history of mankind have so many people had so much, but been so unhappy and bitter--not only at life in general, but at the very systems that have provided them with their abundance. For analytical purposes, the phenomenon can be dissected into five facets. 1.) Fashion. 2.) Attention-seeking, theatrical or otherwise. 3.) The intrinsic effects of hedonism. 4.) The unsupported brilliancy factor. 5.) The attainment of superficial and hollow goals. Facet One: Fashion It is socially fashionable to criticize and hate America. There is a type of socially administered positive reinforcement paradigm. In most areas of the country I can attend a social gathering among the pampered educated elite, recite a series of irrational criticisms of this country, then get patted on the head and told I am brilliant. If it weren't for doing that, I don't know what the people involved in that social value system would do with themselves. Many of them have no other life or no other way of relating to each other or to people in general. Facet Two: Attention-Seeking Many people want to make themselves different, want to make themselves interesting, and want to generate attention to themselves. In listening to the private conversations and public positions of a number of people, it's reasonable to wonder what that person would do to create interest in himself or herself or what he or she would do for a life's role if they were to relinquish the role of being political and social provocateurs. They use this role as a substitute for a real personality. They simply have nothing else going for them. They are eternally on stage with intellectual contortions and jabs. Those who can do it effectively can make careers and money at it. Some of them combine this with subtle sadism and an eternal anger at the adult world. In the entertainment world this has evolved into a theatrical politic. By parading the proper antagonistic politics one can be on stage and in the limelight constantly and have no need for a press agent. Facet
[CTRL] The Immorality of Taxation
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.20/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 20 /A - Laissez Faire City Times May 17, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 20 Editor Chief: Emile Zola The Immorality of Taxation by Sunni Maravillosa One of the best aspects of having my ideas published in the Laissez Faire City Times is the feedback I receive from individuals who take the time to read my essays. Although I do enjoy the complimentary messages, the ones I get most value from are those that make me think about the issues again, and challenge me to examine my beliefs. One such message came in response to my Tax Days essay, in which I reminded individuals of the ongoing, daily tax bite that gets taken out of our lives. After reading it, a reader accused me of "chant[ing] the libertarian mantra that ALL taxes are the same; all equally morally abhorrent ". Being one who takes pride in thinking for myself and reaching my own conclusions, I will admit to feeling a little stung at the implication that I was merely reciting dogma, even if it is dogma I agree with. That, along with some specific comments, spurred me to re-examine the issue of taxation and my feelings about it. I remember my first job, obtained when I was fourteen years old. I was a soda jerk in a mom-and-pop ice cream shop in my hometowntypical small-town America. My starting salary$1.00 per hourseemed almost a fortune to me back then, and as I worked those first two weeks I kept careful track of my earnings and spun dreams about how Id use my hard-earned money. Then I received my paycheck. Ripping open the envelope in eager anticipation, my sense of happiness deflated as I saw line after line of deductions taken from my earnings, leaving me with a fraction of what Id planned on having. I was not a libertarian then, and wasnt even too politically aware, but I will always remember the feeling of betrayal that surged through me when I saw what I had earned being taken by nameless, faceless others. Although the sting lessened, with every paycheck Ive received I still feel that visceral tug over the ongoing theft of my rewards for my labor. When I finally discovered the libertarian philosophy, much later in my life, I saw for the first time that there were other people who thought as I did, who valued things and individuals as I did. This realization left me almost literally giddy for a time, as Id become inured to being different from friends, family, and colleagues who comprised my social environment. Even so, I read and considered and debated the ideas I was discovering, rather than accepting them as stated. One of the things that immediately made a lot of sense to me was the immorality of taxes. The idea that if one person steals what doesnt belong to him, its called theft, but if a government does it under the guise of taxation, it is okayeven expected and complied with!resonated deeply. So I may simply be chanting a mantra, but it happens to express values I have given consideration to and accept fully. A Justified Tax? The reader went on to state his objection to the anti-tax mantra: "it fails to distinguish between those taxes which are truly abhorrent, such as the income, SS and Medicare taxes, and those which can be justified as a valid user-fee for the provision of public infrastructure required by the free market". This got me to thinkingis it possible that Ive been too dogmatic on the issue of taxes? Is there a tax that is morally justified? I started my deliberations by looking up the definition of tax in my dictionary (Websters New World Dictionary). The relevant definition is "to require to pay a percentage of income, property value, etc. for the support of a government". The coercive nature of any tax, coupled with the fact that it goes to a government that uses itwithout my agreement as to what goods and services I wish to support and those I would notmake all taxes immoral in my opinion. No oneindividual or an institutionhas any right to force a person to spend a moment of his life supporting anything. By definition, that is what every tax does. The fact that an individual may wish to support some programs does not offset the spending of his money on programs he does not value. The free-market aspect of the above comment spurred me to think about them and what they require. Perhaps Im naïve or simple-minded on thisI am certainly not an economistbut it seems to me that the only thing a free market requires is to be left alone by those who would seek to limit or control it. Any infrastructure required of the market should be invested in by those in the market. For example, if I own a store and I want customers to come to my store and buy my goods, it makes sense for me to place the store in a location where its convenient for my potential customers, and to
[CTRL] Book: Working-Class War
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523400"Book: Working-Class War/A - Subject: Book: Working-Class War From: Ralph McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, May 16, 1999 6:56 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --C066A299601659C3EF6BDA14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --C066A299601659C3EF6BDA14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="fall.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="fall.txt" In his book, "Working-Class War: American Combat Soldiers Vietnam" Appy, in Chapter Five states: "The United States was indeed outnumbered in Vietnam, but not by troops so much as by political opposition of millions of ordinary Vietnamese civilians. When American forces entered Vietnamese villages in search of communist guerrillas, the Americans were defeated not because they were met by overwhelming numbers of enemy forces armed to the teeth. Rather they were defeated because they were met by villagers who rarely supported their effort to root out the guerrillasBut even the South Vietnamese government conceded (in 1964) that 4 to 5 million people...supported the National Liberation Front." This in fact is the reality of People's War, ignored by all those wishing to see the war as a battle between good and evil, the good against the International Communist Conspiracy -- later broken down to the good agaiunst Chinese expansionism, or Russian hegemonism, or the "civil war," between the North and South. The evidence is all there but many want to cling to the good vs evil version of the war for their own ideological reasons or simply because it is too hard or painful to admit the truth even to themselves -- I certainly went through this pain and denial. Some, of course, see it to their career or peace-of-mind advantage, to deny this reality. Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE --C066A299601659C3EF6BDA14-- - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Clinton's War Rapidly Losing Support In Europe
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523396"Clinton's War Rapidly Losing Support In Europe /A - Subject: Clinton's War Rapidly Losing Support In Europe From: "Bill Mulcahy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, May 16, 1999 6:45 AM Message-id: 7hmlu4$2tf6$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Despite assurances that we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel if only we continue to bomb Yugoslavian civilians a little bit more, less and less people are buying it. Even with most of the "controlled" media pushing this illegal war and censoring images (while doing interviews of children hit with shotgun blasts in the Columbine High School shootings) of the blown-up Yugoslavian children, opposition is growing. See the story below or go to website: http://dawn.com/daily/text/int12.htm Bill Mulcahy NATO blunder makes it harder to maintain unity By Ian Black LONDON: Unless Nato can give a categoric assurance that it was not responsible for the deaths of Kosovan civilians in Korisa, the potential political implications are serious. A blunder on this scale would undoubtedly make it harder for the alliance to maintain its precious unity and to pursue diplomatic paths to end the conflict. Russia, which holds the key to a peaceful settlement, on Friday furiously condemned the attack as a "new crime" and "madness", though Nato insisted that bombing would go on until Yugoslavia backed down. But the apparent accident again highlighted the inadequacies of the air campaign at a moment when Western public opinion is increasingly restive, governing coalitions are strained, and the prospects for a ground war are receding every day. The timing could turn out to be crucial at the end of a difficult week in which Nato's hawks have been repeatedly forced to defend the "moral justice"of Operation Allied Force and trumpet its military successes but have been unable to convince anyone that it is being waged successfully. Thursday's unprecedented warning by Mary Robinson, the UN high commissioner for human rights, t, that Nato should not target civilians, will also add to the strain in western capitals. The accidental bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade last Friday was disastrous enough. It infuriated Beijing when China's support was needed at the UN to advance the cautious peace moves by Russia. It also reinforced stereotypical views of Nato's behaviour. Even to those who support the campaign in principle it seemed extraordinarily incompetent, despite the protestations of military pundits who explained that such accidents are common in war and could be blamed on post-cold war budget cuts. Its impact, however, was largely diplomatic. There were signs yesterday that the damage it caused could be limited with US and British officials both reporting that the mood in Beijing had changed for the better and predicting that China would not now use its veto in the security council. Maintaining Nato unity has almost become a war aim in itself, with the foreign ministers of the core countries - the US, Britain, France, Germany and Italy - speaking almost daily to coordinate their policies and swap impressions about the mood at home. Germany, seen as the potential weak link, was this week's worry when the Green party, junior partners in Chancellor Gerhard Schroder's coalition, held an emergency congress in which the grassroots members tabled motions to dissociate the party from the war. Germany's foreign minister Joschka Fischer, a leading Green, managed to ride out the storm and Mr Schroder reaffirmed his determination to resist calls for a ceasefire. But diplomats admitted last night that this would have been a lot harder if the Korisa killings had preceded the congress. There are also possible problems in Italy, where the foreign minister, Lamberto Dini, broke Nato ranks to condemn the bombing of the Belgrade TV station on April 23. An opinion poll for the newspaper Corriere della Sera, taken a day after the Chinese embassy blunder, found that only 35.4% of Italians thought continued bombing was justified, down from 42.7%. "The flakier member of the alliance always find this kind of thing very difficult," said one Nato official. "f there has been another tragic accident in Kosovo then we'll just have to grit our teeth and plough on. I don't think this is going to erode determination in Britain or the US." Britain's parliamentary consensus in support of the conduct of the war broke down briefly on Monday, when the Conservative opposition followed the US Republicans in accusing Nato leaders of failure to achieve their stated objectives. This ended on Wednesday when William Hague slapped down the shadow foreign secretary, Michael Howard, for his remarks. Nato governments continue to claim that the military campaign went well this week in terms of sorties flown and targets hit. Frontline states like Bulgaria, accidentally hit by a second Nato missile
[CTRL] The Founder of the Modern Communist State
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523330"The Founder of the Modern Communist State /A - Subject: The Founder of the Modern Communist State From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsun) Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 7:49 PM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Founder of the Modern Communist State Email from MouthOfSouth 05-15-99 Jon Christian Ryter Jon Christian Ryter The Founder of the Modern Communist State Ask any American who the founder of modern socialism is, and you will receive one of two or three replies--none of which would likely be correct. Most people would say that it is Karl Marx. Some might declare that it was V.I. Lenin; others, Josef Stalin; and still others might attribute that dubious distinction to Mao or even Fidel Castro, since they are the best known communists in the world. However, any of those names would be wrong. Granted, Karl Marx is the name associated with creating the modern political philosophy known as communism, but ideologies seldom become political movements, and even less often, lasting political systems. The father of the modern socialist state is none other than John D. Rockefeller, Senior--the founder of Standard Oil Company. John D, age 40 John D, age 90. Most people view communism and capitalism as opposite ends of the same political pole, and for that reason, are prone to raise their eyebrows whenever someone suggests that the world's most influential bankers and industrialists (the movers and shakers of the free enterprise system) are the shapers of the communist state. Before sharing with you how Rockefeller earned the nefarious title of father of the modern socialist state, it is important to show you the distinction between capitalism and communism. Communism is a political system. Like democracy. Capitalism is not a political system--it is the basis of all economic systems. Democracy as we know it is a capitalistic economic system. Surprisingly, so is communism. All political systems are capitalistic. The difference between socialist capitalism and democratic capitalism is the socialist version is state-controlled and the democratic version is usually based on free enterprise. In 1934 Franklin D. Roosevelt, the political puppet of the bankers and industrialists who elected him, attempted to convert the free enterprise economic system of the United States into a controlled economy. The pattern he followed was precisely the same as that utilized by both Adolph Hitler in 1934 and Benito Mussolini in 1924. Today, what Roosevelt and later, Lyndon B. Johnson, failed to achieve in controlling business and industry, Bill Clinton is achieving through executive orders and unlegislated bureaucratic regulations. The bureaucracy, which is itself unconstitutional, was created by Roosevelt's New Deal laws that turned the free-enterprise economy of the United States into the planned economy of socialism. The intrusive federal regulations that hamstring most businesses today are the result of Roosevelt's attempt to create a socialist America. The only thing that stopped FDR from total success was the Constitution of the United States--and the 2nd Amendment. America, collectively, was still stronger than its government in 1934-44. Today, that is no longer the case. The Rockefeller Connection In the fall of 1859 a man named Edwin Drake sunk the first oil well near Titusville, Pennsylvania. The boom he started equaled the California gold rush ten years earlier. Drake, recognized as the pioneer of the petroleum industry, immediately formed the Seneca Oil Company. DRAKE FIRST OIL WELL Within months of Drake's sinking his first well, the hills around Titusville were suddenly full of oil derricks, and oil flowed like water. A new form of wealth had just been created. Oil. Black gold. Fortune seekers from all over the country arrived in Titusville and began leasing acreage from every farmer in the county. At that time, oil had not been discovered anywhere else in the country, and it was believed by many that Pennsylvania was the only place in the world where black wealth could be obtained. At the time of the Blake feat, John D. Rockefeller was a young man struggling to make his mark in a Cleveland. Rockefeller at the time was the junior partner in a produce warehouse. He learned of the oil gusher in Titusville from the former boss of one of his partners. Rockefeller wasn't as excited about oil as John Hussey, the man who brought the news back to Cleveland. But, by 1862 Hussey had convinced a Rockefeller associate, Sam Andrews, that there was an illumination value in kerosene. Andrews convinced Rockefeller. Together with Maurice Clark, Andrews and Rockefeller formed a company to refine oil. The company, Andrews, Clark Company did not even contain the name of its junior partner. But by 1863 John D. Rockefeller was squarely in the middle of the oil business. Within two decades he would own it. The
[CTRL] Weird Science- The Labs of Dr. Gallo
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523331"Weird Science- The Labs of Dr. Gallo /A - Subject: Weird Science- The Labs of Dr. Gallo From: "Tom Keske" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 7:33 PM Message-id: W0r%2.3288$[EMAIL PROTECTED] WEIRD SCIENCE- THE LABS OF DR. GALLO Dr. Robert Charles Gallo, in a just world, would be regarded as a prime suspect in the profound murder mystery that is known as the AIDS epidemic. Dr. Gallo acquired a certain notoriety for this attempts to steal credit for "discovering" the AIDS virus, from the French research team of Luc Montagnier. This overblown affair is a distraction from intrigues far more serious. Dr. Gallo, in this college days, developed his skills in surgery by slaying scores of mice in a makeshift laboratory over his mother's garage. [1]. Between 1967 and 1974, preceding the outbreak of AIDS, he did extensive research into immune-destroying microorganisms. Much of this "cancer research" was under the auspices of Litton Bionetics, Bionetics Research Labs, and other known biological weapons contractors [2] In 1975, the notorious, military biological war lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland changed its name to a "cancer research facility", under the authority of Gallo's NCI. [1]. Not all of Gallo's employees were happy campers, but speaking out was difficult. Said one employee, "Even though you stopped working there, you had to leave in harmony with your boss, or your chances of succeeding outside were practically zero. It was practically impossible to find an honest person at that place." The woman who told so, requesting anonymity, knew three colleagues who had committed suicide. What was going in this lab that was plagued by mysterious deaths and an intimidating atmosphere of silence? An undeniable record of published research gives a clear picture. Since the early 1970s, Gallo's team investigated a veritable zoo of retroviruses, making cocktails of multiple viruses, providing the opportunity for exchanges of genetic materials between the viruses, as well as with the cultured cells. Retroviruses, you should remember, are the same category of virus that includes AIDS. AIDS is believed to be derived from SIV, a simian retrovirus, found in monkeys and chimps. Gallo's virus cocktails included simian sarcoma viruses from monkeys, mice retroviruses, and Visna, another sheep retrovirus that is also similar to AIDS. The viruses and cells involved in the experiments also involved apes, cats, dogs, hamsters, and humans. Gallo was ruthless and Machiavellian in his quest for personal glory. In 1975, one of his assistants, Doris Morgan, discovered IL-2, a protein stimulating the growth of T-cells. Gallo demanded that her team stop working on "useless molecules." Later, Gallo would come back and claim the credit for discovering IL-2, also known as Interleukin-2. When another researcher, Kalyanaraman, left Gallo's lab to work for the CDC, Gallo told him, "You ain't never going to have any retroviruses", and added, "I will destroy you." In 1975, Gallo published articles describing the first human retrovirus, called HL-23. This corresponds to what Gallo would later rename as HTLV-1. The 1975 published research also makes it clear that Gallo and Gillespie succeeded in hybridizing the human HL-23 virus with other animal retroviruses [3]. Gallo did not wish to give out his virus to other labs. His subordinates told how they were ordered to contaminate the tumor cells before they were delivered to outside labs. Gallo defended his behavior by saying "nevertheless, I'm more honest to others than they are to me." For a period of time in the early 1980s, Gallo and his colleague Max Essex would be the only researchers in the entire United States who received federal research money to investigate the cause of AIDS. What seeming clairvoyance, that this unique honor was bestowed on a man who had spent years manipulating retroviruses. It was not yet known that AIDS would turn out to be a retrovirus. Unless, of course, it is yet another case of the fox investigating the chicken coop. On the contrary, Gallo at first furiously resisted the idea that AIDS might be caused by a retrovirus. Arthur Levine, a cancer researcher, phoned Gallo in 1982 and asked if knew what was happening to gay men in New York and San Francisco. Gallo said that he had not heard about it. Levine proposed that AIDS might be caused by something related to Gallo's virus, HTLV. Gallo told him "It is interesting", and simply hung up the receiver. Gallo's close colleague, the renowned Harvard scientist Max Essex, started his own investigation, without Gallo's knowledge, to see if HTLV was related to AIDS. When Gallo found out, he exploded furiously- "How can you collaborate with me, when you are doing stuff behind my back?" For a solid 45 minutes, he berated Essex and another researcher, Mullins
[CTRL] ::: Those G*ddam Martian Reptoids! [from 1958] :::
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523240"::: Those Goddam Martian Reptoids! [from 1958] ::: /A - Subject: ::: Those Goddam Martian Reptoids! [from 1958] ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brother Blue) Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 10:55 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operators and Things by Barbara O'Brien Arlington Books, 1958 from the book jacket: Is there really another race of "people" who control us by telepathy, hynotic suggestion, thought projection, or even rays of a nature unknown to man? Are there actually "beings" visible only to a chosen few? Barbara O"Brien thought so, from the time she awakened one unforgettable morning to find a group of total strangers clustered around her bed, discussing her with ghoulish dispassion -- strangers she alone could see! From the moment Barbara realized these creatures were dedicated to manipulating her life, she became involved in a series of mental and physical adventures that was to last six months -- adventures so astounding to the "normal" mind that The Three Faces of Eve and The Search for Bridey Murphey pale in their light. THE REAL-LIFE ADVENTURE THAT IS STRANGER THAN SCIENCE FICTION Introduction by Michael Maccoby, Harvard University; Prefatory note by L.J. Reyna, Boston University. (Note: In her actual account she relates: "I awoke one morning, during a time of great personal tension and self conflict to find three grey and somewhat wispy figures standing at my bedside... They were not Men from Mars, but the Operators, a group in some ways s tranger than martians could be.") from the forward: Let us say that when you awake tomorrow, you find standing at your bedside a man with purple scale-skin who tells you that he has just arrived from Mars, that he is studying the human species, and that he has selected your mind for the kind of on-the-spot examination he wants to make. While you are catching your breath, he walks casually to your best chair, drapes his tail over it, and informs you that he will be visual and audible only to you. Fixing his three eyes sternly upon you, he warns you not to reveal his presence; if you attempt to do so, he threatens, he will kill you instantly. You may wonder, perhaps, if you are sane. But the Man from Mars is standing before you, clear and colorful, and his voice is loud and distinct. On the basis of what you can so clearly see and hear, you accept the fact, astounding as it is, that the stranger is what he says he is. If your temperament were such that you could not accept the fact that a Man from Mars might just pop into your room, the vision appearing before you would not be a Man from Mars. It might be, instead, the awesome figure of God. Or the terrifying figure of the devil. Or it might be a less conventional figure. In all probabilty the figure, regardless of the form it took, would have three characteristics: it would represent authority; it would have superhuman powers; and it's weirdness would, in some way, seem plausible and acceptable to you. Let us say that you are faced with the Man from Mars and that prior unresolved speculations concerning flying saucers give the figure a certain plausibility. You are rattled but you attempt to go through your normal activities, keeping your tremendous secret to yourself. You converse with your friends, perform your job, eat your meals, even while the figure stands by your side. The Man from Mars advises you that it is not necessary to answer his questions, that you need only to think your answers, for he will be able to read your mind. You find this no idle boast; the Man proceeds to demonstrate his ability to do just that. If you are sufficiently controlled you may carry your secret around with you for some time before anyone suspects that something unusual has happened to you. A friend may notice that you seem distraught and suggest that you unburden your troubles. You ignore his advice. Obviously, such an action would only result in the instant death of you and your confidant. Instead, you become more careful of your behavior, hold onto yourself with everything you've got, and pray desperately for the Man from Mars to complete his research and depart. It is possible that the Man from Mars may actually disappear with a few days or a few weeks. There is about a .05 per cent chance of this happening. You are physically exhausted after the Man has gone back to Mars, and your mind, which had been racing like a jet plane while the Man was with you, slows down and almost refuses to function at all. But as the days pass, you gradually revert to normalcy. In time, you may discuss your experience with someone and you may even discover, at this point, what was really happening to you while the Man from Mars was with you. There is a 99.5 per cent chance, however, if something like the Man from Mars appears in your life, that he is still in your life after a few months. By
Re: [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- Very good. I have been very busy lately and haven't had much time to read the hundreds of posts building in my mailbox. Interesting that nurev turns out to be a statist. The government will take care of us, right Nurev? Let the government murderers and cowards of the FBI and ATF have the guns. They did such a great job at Ruby Ridge, Waco, the World Trade Bombing, and the OKC bombing plus the tens of thousands of other illegal activities these 90's gestapo have perpetrated in the last few years (civil asset forfeiture). Yes that's right nurev, we will feel so much safer when they are the only ones to have guns. We will then only have government orchestrated mass murder and subjugation. But then that is alright with you, isn't it? You have the gall to advocate taking guns away from American citizens and only giving government agancies the right to have guns. A government completely corrupted from the top down. Your hero, rapist, murderer and one of the most thorough going bastards to ever desecrate the White House, Bill Clinton is to be trustes with this power. You believe it is better to have Bill in charge of government agencies who are armed against an unarmed populace? You so quickly forget history's many lessons of dictators disarming the citizenry only to be followed by genocide. What about the Warsaw uprising in which a handful of Jews took on and held their own for quite some time against the Nazis' s after they had managed to obtain some firearms. Preach your statism in Beijing where I'm certain they will also secretly hold you in contempt. Your views on inalienable human rights are particularly revealing; Not at all. Rights are a conceptual legal concept. If everybody plays along, you have rights. If most, or even many people don't play along, you have bupkes. There is nothing inalienable about legalisms in the real world. Jim Norman says; The above is a most revealing statement. It shows that Nurev has the same understanding of rights as did Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and all the other mass murders of the past (and of the future). They have no concept of the agreement among mature people to recognize the humanity of others and not treat them as resources to be exploited and killed if they get in the way. Not only Hitler and Mao, Jim. Also George Bush and Bill and Hilary Clinton along with many Congressman and Senators. Conceptual only to a wanton socialist like yourself, Nurev. Rights only subscribed by the gun toting ATF murderer at your doorstep and fully endorsed by Nurev. How comforting. You talk about our basic human rights being a conceptual legal concept, what utter nonsense. Trying to make our basic human rights an issue in which we need lawyers to decide what we do and do not need. I'm certain most people can agree on what our basic rights are without the need for lawyers ratifying it. You not only advocate only a government of armed thugs, you reduce our rights to the whim of lawyers decisions. I wish to avert that violence because I live in this society, and I don't want to go down with it. If you think you can avert violence by not being ready to counter it, you are a fool. Violence is part of life; it is NOT going away just because some people wish it to. Violence has been part of life since the first aomeba ate the first protazoa; get used to it. Violence is not evil. Violence is not good. Violence just is. To equate the knee to a rapists crotch with the sap in a mugger's hand is an infantile thought process. That's kidthink. Grow up. Violence is like weather. Sometimes it's sunny. Sometimes it rains. When it rains do we hide in the house? No, we carry an umbrella and go on about our life. How many more people will kill each other with guns just so you can feel ideologically correct? 1000? 10,000? How many? And how many unarmed women will be raped so YOU can feel ideologically correct? How many frail elders will be murdered in their beds? For that matter, how many high school kids will die like the kids at Littleton died, waiting in vain while four, count 'em, FOUR SWATs hid outside behind armored trucks, waiting for the the perps to kill themselves and then waiting two and a half hours MORE before they dared to poke their cowardly pig snouts in the door? 911 is a joke. When trouble strikes, ready or not, we're on our own. Ready is better. I'm not threatening revolution. I am saying that the natural outcome of Capitalism is concentration of wealth. The natural outcome of the concentration of wealth is poverty for most people. The natural outcome of poverty is social disintegration. The natural outcome of social disintegration is dictatorship. And the natural outcome of dictatorship is revolution. "An unarmed people are slaves, or subject to slavery at any time." -- Malcolm X I am telling you that your philosophy will end in violence. And I'm telling you that YOUR philosophy will end in slavery. I
[CTRL] Saddam Issues Threat and other . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml A HREF="http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml"NewsMax.com: Inside Cover /A - Dripity, drip, drip, drip . . . Om K - May 16, 1999 For the story behind the story... Saturday May 15, 12:37 PM Saddam Issues Threat Earlier this week, Intelligence International LTD, the well regarded Britain-based intelligence advisory, sent an urgent "Private Alert" to its world wide subscribers. Inside Cover has received a copy. "Saddam Warns of Imminent Showdown with the U.S.," headlines the action gram. Intelligence International reports that Iraqi diplomatic sources in Amman, Jordan, have claimed that Hussein recently sent a memorandum to "senior staff in the party, state, and the army." The memo from Hussein asserts that "the showdown with the United States is not far away." Hussein is said to be promising a "crucial confrontation that will end in Iraq's favour." The memo continues, implying Hussein may use weapons of mass destruction, "Iraq will confront -- with determination, vigour, and a devastating response that will be remembered throughout history -- the latest U.S. attempt to inflict harm on it." Intelligence International notes that Hussein has made vain threats before. This time, however, the intelligence advisory suggests Hussein should be taken seriously because President Clinton has entangled America's military in Kosovo. Such an entanglement may have provided Iraq with an "unmissable opportunity," the advisory concludes. Already NewsMax.com and other sources have reported a massive shift of American naval and air power from the Gulf -- leaving the region vulnerable to Saddam. Top military commanders like General Jack Singlaub(ret.) and Admiral Thomas Moorer(ret.) stated at NewsMax.com's "America at Risk" Los Angeles Conference that American naval and air power has also been significantly drawn down in the Pacific. They both stated that South Korea is extremely vulnerable to a North Korean attack in the near future. Affirming those sentiments this week, General Hugh Shelton, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, told Congress that North Korea has engaged in a forward deployment suggesting a possible attack on the South. He said American troops have been on a heightened state of alert. Several defense think tanks, including the Center for Security Policy headed by Frank Gaffney, have warned that America may be faced with several, simultaneous crises, including ones with Iraq and North Korea. Clinton's defense policies have effectively "hollowed out" the American military. Experts say that the American military would be unable to deal with one crisis, let alone several. For more information on NewsMax.com's "America at Risk Conference, Click Here Friday May 14, 2:46 AM Dems Still Chasing Chinagate Campaign Cash In sworn testimony on Thursday, key Chinagate witness Johnny Chung charged that Democrats were still trying to get him to cough up more campaign dollars, despite that fact that his earlier contributions had to be returned because they were illegal. The revelation came under questioning by Judicial Watch, the public-interest legal watchdog group that first broke the Chinagate scandal with an exclusive 1996 deposition of Democratic National Committee fundraiser John Huang. A Judicial Watch press release reports that: "Vice President Al Gore recently mailed [Chung] an invitation to a fundraising event in Los Angeles, both at his home and office. Chung was also recently solicited by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee." The Gore/DNC pleas for more Chinagate cash came within the last 30 days, leaving Chung particularly dismayed: "He was not happy to have received such solicitations from Gore ... considering what he's gone through in the last two years," Judicial Watch reported. "Chung also understood that his political contributions ... helped buy him access to and favors from the president, the vice president and first lady. ... A letter sent to him by Mrs. Clinton was very helpful in opening doors for his fax broadcast business." In 1995, Johnny Chung contributed $25,000 to a public relations group created to defend Mrs. Clinton against her Whitewater critics. He also personally handed a $50,000 donation to Maggie Williams, the first lady's chief of staff, to help Mrs. Clinton defray the costs of a White House Christmas party. Chung's Thursday testimony spelled bad news for AG Janet Reno, as the generous Democrat donor alleged that his Chinese contacts assured him the "fix" was in at the Justice Department. The Judicial Watch session followed Chung's grilling by the House on Tuesday, which originally had him scheduled for two days on the hot seat. Inexplicably, Chung's congressional testimony was curtailed after a single day of questioning. Judicial Watch will get a second crack at Chung at a later date. Friday May 14, 1:02 AM The Lessons of Chung and Willey When historians ponder the
[CTRL] Interview: Jewish Holocaust Gun ControlWhy GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.netpath.net/~jeffr/jpfo.htm Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership JPFO: HAAS INTERVIEW The following excerpt is from an interview conducted by Aaron Zelman in 1990. Mr. Zelman is the founder of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. JPFO 2872 S. Wentworth Ave. Milwaukee, WI 53207 414- 769-0760 His subject was Theodore Haas, a former prisoner of the infamous Dachau concentration camp. A Warning: HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR DENOUNCES ANTI-GUN-OWNERSHIP MOVEMENT "IF ONLY WE WERE ARMED" Q. Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only we were armed before, we would not be here now"? A. Many, many times. Before Adolf Hitler came to power, there was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms ownership, especially, if the government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust the government? There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about gun ownership and had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half-starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis. Q. Did you have any contacts with the White Rose Society (mostly German students against Hitler)? Did anyone try to hide you from the Nazis? A. I did not, but my local friend, Richard Scholl, had two cousins or nephews who were members. Both were executed in Munich (I believe) for standing up for decency and freedom. Not enough people knew about the White Rose Society. There were many non-Jews who were not anti-Semetic and were very much opposed to Hitler. It was impossible to hide people from the Nazis in Germany - it is so densely populated and food was rationed. Another point that many people fail to understand is that in Germany, you had a situation where the children were reporting to their teachers if their parents listened to the BBC on the short wave radio, or what they were talking about at home. If a German was friendly to a Jew, he was warned once. If he failed to heed the warning, he would disappear and never be heard from again. This was known as "Operation Night and Fog." Q. Do you think American society has enough stability that Jews and other minorities are safe from severe persecution? A. No. I think there is more anti-Semitism in America (some of it caused by leftist Jewish politicians and organizations who promote gun control schemes) than there was in Germany. This may stun some people, but not all Germans hated Jews. My best and devoted friends in Germany were Christians. I perceive America as a very unstable society, due to the social tinkering of the Kennedy/Metzenbaum-type politicians. When I first came to this wonderful country after World War II, America was a vibrant, dynamic and promising society. There really was an American dream, attainable by those who wanted to work. Now, due to the curse of Liberalism, America is in a period of moral decline. Even worse, corrupt criminals hold high political office, and you have police officials who don't give a damn about the Bill of Rights. They just want to control people, not protect and serve. When you study history, you see that when a country becomes an immoral manure heap, as America is rapidly becoming, all minorities suffer, and ultimately, all the citizens. Q. What words of warning would you like to give to young people who will soon be eligible to vote? A. Vote only for politicians who trust the people to own all types of firearms, and who have a strong pro-Second Amendment voting record. Anti-gun-ownership politicians are very dangerous to a free society. Liberty and freedom can only be preserved by an armed citizenry. I see creeping fascism in America, just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a law there, all supposedly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny often masquerades as doing good. This IS the technique the Liberal politicians/Liberal media alliance are using to enslave America. Q. What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations and individuals who want Americans disarmed? A. Their ignorance is pitiful - their lives have been too easy. Had they experienced Dachau, they would have a better idea of how precious freedom is. These leftists should live in the tradition of America or they should leave America. These Sarah Brady
[CTRL] Lethal Laws. [CTRL] Why GUNS are here to stay.
-Caveat Lector- "Lethal Laws:Gun "Control" is the Key to Genocide" by Jay Simkin, Aaron Zelman Alan M. Rice This book gives you hard proof that the downside to "gun control" is genocide, not inconvenience to firearms owners. Lethal Laws contains the authentic original texts of "gun control" laws -- with facing translations -- that cleared the way for seven major genocides between 1915 and 1980 in which 56,000,000 persons, including millions of children, were murdered. The book also shows how America took all but the last step of a major genocide just over 50 years ago, with the approval of the Congress and the Supreme Court. This work proves that "gun control", which is really civilian disarmament, delivers not safe streets but mountains of corpses. Click here to read more ! Third, the book's insistent thesis is that gun control paves the way for genocide. http://www.jpfo.org/L-laws.htm opyright (c) 1995 David B. Kopel. Originally published in the New York Law School Journal of International and Comparative Law, 1995, Vol. 15, pages 355-398. Lethal Laws. By Jay Simkin, Aaron Zelman, Alan M. Rice. Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, P.O. Box 270143, Hartford, WI 53207 (414) 673-9745 Reviewed by David B. Kopel "If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first." The Talmud. [1] This book ought to be a non-controversial item that will quickly find its way onto the shelves of all libraries with an interest in international law. The authors' method is quite standard: a compilation from seven nations of statutes on a particular subject. The translation of the statutes into English is meticulous, and each of the statutes is accompanied by commentary explaining its significance. [2] In addition, as the legal academy works to improve itself at hearing voices which have too long been ignored, this book makes a profound effort to bring to our attention the lives of people, such as persecuted ethnic minorities, who have been marginalized by scholarly research. But in fact, this book will likely be bought by few law school libraries. It is unlikely to be reviewed in the usual international law journals, because in a number of ways, the book is so politically incorrect. What is "wrong" with this book? First, its lead author is an economist, not a law professor or even an attorney. Second, the topic of the book is gun control statutes in nations which have perpetrated genocide in the twentieth century. Third, the book's insistent thesis is that gun control paves the way for genocide. I. The Nations The core of the book--the translations of the various foreign laws--is excellent, and should serve as a model for similar books on other subjects. On the even-numbered pages are photocopies of the foreign laws. On the odd-numbered, facing pages, are English translations of the laws. The foreign statutes are photocopied from foreign statute books. Copies of the cover and publication information pages from the foreign statute books are provided as well. This approach encourages the most accurate translations, since any person who can read the language of the foreign statute can instantly verify the accuracy of the translation. Meticulous citations make the book all the more credible and valuable as a reference work. While the authors do an excellent job in compiling the various foreign statutes (many of which, such as Ottoman Empire statutes from 1860, are quite obscure), the authors run into a serious difficulty as they attempt to analyze the various gun laws in their historical context in each nation. As the authors acknowledge, only the Nazi genocide has been carefully investigated. [3] The victims of most of the other genocides were much less likely than European Jews to be able to write Western languages (or to be able to write at all). Accordingly, they were less able to leave any kind of record for history. Likewise, most genocidal regimes of the twentieth century were considerably less devoted than the Nazis were in recording their own activities. Let us now turn to the individual nations whose gun control laws and genocide records form the core of Lethal Laws. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/16/99 7:15:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: War is necessary for Capitalism's Capitalists to roll over stock. It is only incidental that so many people die. It is only collateral damage. Joshua2 War is also a from of social control. Why are so many bonesman secretaries of War and Defense? Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] I WAS BILL CLINTON'S BAG MAN
http://dolphin.gulf.net/may17-99/Bag I WAS BILL CLINTON'S BAG MAN Interview with Author L.D. Brown By Marvin Lee In his recently released book, "Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation," author L.D. Brown finally makes a full admission of the crimes that he helped then-Governor Bill Clinton commit in the 1980s. Brown admits that, while assigned to then-Governor Clinton's security detail, he actually performed the role of Clinton's "bag man." But Brown has also included a shocker of a current scandal that has yet to unfold in the U.S. media: a current covert White House operation aimed at supporting the Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland. I interviewed Brown about these topics as well as Brown's and Clinton's role in the Nicaraguan Contra supply operation at Mena airport in 1980s and other topics revealed in his book: QUESTION: You reveal in the book that you were a "bag man" for Bill Clinton. You actually use that term. BROWN: Well, it's the best term to use. In a crime world, when writers write about the man who carries the money around, it is usually the "bag man." Frankly, that's what it was. We used a paper sack, a brown paper bag. QUESTION: Did you just collect from local businessmen, some of whom you name in the book, or did you also in any way get involved in collecting money from Chinese businessmen? BROWN: No. I knew Charlie Trie... QUESTION: But not in a fundraising context? BROWN: Not in a fundraising context. And, quite frankly, I don't know whether Charlie was a contributor to Bill during his gubernatorial elections. QUESTION: He was, through Richard Mays. BROWN: One thing I do remember is that we didn't have to pay for the event at Charlie Trie's restaurant. We had a pretty good bill there. QUESTION: And there's another thing. You reveal in the book a relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster. That must have been apparent to Charlie Trie because it took place in his restaurant? BROWN: Charlie wasn't downstairs. QUESTION: So he may not have known about it? BROWN: He didn't know about it that night. QUESTION: So, in your role as bag man, you never picked up any packages of money from Mena airport? BROWN: No, none other than what [CIA contractor Barry] Seal gave me. QUESTION: Yes, for yourself. You may know that Jerry Parks' widow says that her husband drove cash from Mena airport on a contract for Vince Foster [1]. BROWN: As far as I remember, I have never met Jerry Parks at Mena airport. When we came and left there, there was no activity in and around the airplane. THE DIXIE MAFIA QUESTION: On another topic, when you expose all the crimes that took place in Arkansas, you never mention the Dixie Mafia. Is the relationship of people like Dan Lasater, Patsy Thomasson, and Buddy Young to the Dixie Mafia not a significant factor in this, you think? BROWN: Well, having been in law enforcement for quite a number of years, I have a different connotation about the, quote, Dixie Mafia, unquote. It's not like the Marcellos in New Orleans, the Cosa Nostras, the Capos, and all that. The Dixie Mafia is much more loose knit--not identifiable as a gang in a hierarchy as other organized crime gangs. I guess it is an unorganized crime organization. It's more of a social structure. I never really thought about that, trying to put all this in the context of an organized crime operation, even though if you take the separate acts that have been committed, it's certainly a racketeering operation. QUESTION: You know Roger Morris, in his biography of Bill Clinton, was the first to try to put the entire thing in a Mafia context, pointing out, actually, that Bill Clinton's first campaign was funded, presumably, through the Mafia, through his uncle Raymond. BROWN: Well, I don't doubt that. And that is more "Mafia" Mafia, as you think of Cosa Nostra, when you talk about the old Hot Springs crowd. QUESTION: Speaking of Seal and [Carlos] Marcello, whom you brought up. Did you know that Seal had worked for Marcello? BROWN: It doesn't surprise me. COVERT OPERATION IN NORTHERN IRELAND QUESTION: Speaking of covert operations, you reveal in the book an effort by the Clinton administration to divert money from food aid and airplane parts from Russia to the Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland. Have I understood that correctly? BROWN: It wasn't revealed to me in so many words, but I couldn't come to any more reasonable conclusion than that from all the conversations I had with this man that I met in England, T. John McBrearty. As I describe in the book he first approached me at 2 a.m. at a
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- MJ: Wealth is CREATED, not distributed. nurev wrote: I'm talking about on EARTH, Mr. Johnson. MJ: I am merely POINTING at REALITY. Regard$, --MJ It is an affront to truth to treat falsehood with complaisance. -- Thomas Paine DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush, Gorbachev, Shultz and Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- Bush, Gorbachev, Shultz and Kosovo by Berit Kjos GEORGE W. BUSH, Mikhail Gorbachev, George Shultz, your children, and the Balkan war -- how are they linked? Why does it matter? And who is George Shultz? How did he help rewrite history, redefine morality, and prepare America to accept the atrocities that are now paving the way to the new world order? If you are as concerned as I am about America's shift from traditional values and factual education to global values and psycho-social strategies for "lifelong learning," you would want to know the answers. You might also wonder why Texas Governor George W. Bush would choose George Shultz, who negotiated the 1985 U.S.-USSR Education Exchange Agreement, as advisor on his presidential exploratory committee. Or why Robert Dole chose Shultz as an advisor during his quest for the presidency in 1996. BACKGROUND INFORMATION These alliances reflect the new perspective that motivates our globalist leaders to set aside the old rules of involvement and chart a new course for the world. From their point of view, the old-fashioned national sovereignty (or independence) is out, and global solidarity is in. Now it's up to the media and our educational "change agents" to persuade the masses to accept their view of the earth as a global village. NATO's recent decisions fit right in, for the mainstream media messages that accompany the attacks on Serbia help desensitize the public to actions that from the traditional perspective would have been an unthinkable violation of America's foundational laws and values. But the old rules don't fit in the new world order. "Nations that stick to stale old notions and ideologies will falter and fail," said former President Bush, when introducing the Republican version of our international education system.2 Al Gore would surely agree. At a 1991Communitarian conference in Washington, he said, "Seeing ourselves as separate is the central problem in our political thinking." 3 Gore's conclusion was quoted in the book, Spiritual Politics, co-authored by Corinne McLaughlin, the first task force co-ordinator for the President's Council on Sustainable Development. McLaughlin, who likes to quote Djwhal Khul, spirit guide to theosophist Alice Bailey, also taught her mediation strategies at the Department of Education, Pentagon, and the EPA. 4 "There really is only one sin--separateness," she states in her book. "War is more likely to spring from rampant nationalism, ethnocentrism, and intolerant religious fundamentalism--all extreme and separative attitudes. . . . What is needed as a cure for separateness is a deep sense of community-that we're all in this together." 5 SHULTZ AND GORBACHEV Mikhail Gorbachev shares her contempt for nationalism and religious fundamentalism, i.e. biblical Christianity. The goal of this unrepentant Communist continues to be a socialist world government with power to manage and monitor every human resource according to the will of an elite "Council of the Wise." Back in 1995, George Shultz served as Chairman of the Board of Advisors of the Gorbachev Foundation, which had been "created to assist in the process of building global consensus for our common future." The same year, he co-chaired Gorbachev's first annual State of the World Forum in San Francisco together with Ted Turner, Maurice Strong,6 and other international leaders "chosen for their internationally recognized contributions to designing our emerging global civilization." Among the speakers was author Sam Keen, who announced that -- "The ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage." 7 Attending the Forum as a member of the press, I heard the thundering applause that followed Keen's statement. Whether Shultz agreed with audience or not, this popular suggestion shows the Forum's general attitude toward human lives. Despite the noble rhetoric about saving the oppressed, the overriding sentiment indicated that people count only if they conform to the new ideology and serve the world community. Therefore the masses must be trained, managed, and monitored -- and the loss of lives due to politically expedient conflicts matters little. The major players in this transforming process are the media, the international education system, and a global surveillance system. All are nearly in place 8-- thanks to Shultz, Clinton and others who share their vision for managed conformity and strive to fulfill it. SOVIET INDOCTRINATION IN AMERICA Shultz's friendship with Gorbachev dates back to his years as Secretary of State in the Reagan administration9 a time when many of us simply trusted the Republican cabinet to represent American families. In the early eighties, few of us realized that Shultz and David Hamburg, President of the globalist Carnegie Corporation, were using their authority to negotiate a binding international
[CTRL] Technical stupidity leads to threadis interruptus
-Caveat Lector- Excusa por favor, But some technical stupidity of mine has cause a brief hiatus in some current threads. Namely, From Major Jordan's Diaries, Revelations Of an International Spy and The Strange Death of FDR. These threads should return in a few days. Excusa. Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [3] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh,(C) 1994 PENGUIN BOOKS Published by the Penguin Group Penguin Books Ltd. 27 Wrights Lane London W8 3TZ, England Penguin Books USA Inc., 375 Hudson Street, New York, Now York 10014, USA Penguin Books Australia Lid, Ringwood, Victoria, Australia Penguin Books Cana Ltd, 10 Alcorn Avenue, Toronto, Ontario. Canada M4V 3B2 Penguin Books (NZ) Ltd, 192-190 Wairau Road, Auckland 10, New Zealand Penguin Books Ltd, Registered Offices: Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England First published by Jonathan Cape 1994 Published in Penguin Books 1995 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 AD rights reserved The moral right of the author has been asserted Printed in England by Clays Ltd, St Ives plc Except in the United States of America, this book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade or otherwise, be Lent re-sold, hired out, or otherwise circulated without the publisher's prior consent in any form of binding or cover other than that in which it is published and without a similar condition including this condition being imposed on the subsequent purchaser - --[3]-- 2 Operation Valkyrie After the 'appeasement' of Munich in 1938, opportunities to involve the army's entire high command in Hitler's overthrow began to recede. Following Germany's military successes in Poland, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium and France, such opportunities receded even further. While younger commanders like Tresckow remained ready to act, they had few chances to do so, being too far removed from Berlin and other crucial centres of power. When a rare chance did come their way, it was invariably dogged by bad luck. Although they had a network of associates in Berlin and other strategic locations, these associates were too often vacillating, indecisive, imperfectly united, lacking in the requisite initiative and, perhaps most important, lacking in authority. By 1943, Germany's armed forces were stretched from the Atlantic to the Russian heartland, from the Barents Sea to the Mediterranean-and, at almost every point of the compass, fully engaged. As long as this remained the case, the prospects were inauspicious for a coup originating on the periphery and radiating inwards. Any such undertaking would have to originate from the centre, from Berlin and from other internal concentrations of power; and the centre remained 'soft'. The men in Berlin, for example, were not, for the most part, senior military officers, but figures of lesser rank and influence. They were also seldom, if ever, wholly united, either about their objectives or the means of attaining those objectives. For many of the individuals involved, there were serious questions - of both expediency and morality - to be considered. In the moral sphere, prominent members of the 'Kreisau Circle' were steeped in law and questioned whether political assassination, even of Adolf Hitler and his colleagues, could ever be legitimate. Opponents of murder and terror found it understandably difficult to have recourse to murder and terror themselves. Were they to do so, would they not be guilty of transgressions as grievous as those they sought to redress? 'They were, to their credit, too conscious of their responsibilities, too tom by moral qualms to achieve the necessary degree of ruthlessness.,[1] Helmuth James von Moltke, founder of the 'Kreisau Circle' and one of Stauffenberg's cousins, is reported to have said to a member of the Stauffenberg family: 'We're not conspirators, we're not capable of being, we've not learnt how to do it, we shouldn't try to make a start now, it would go wrong, we should make an amateur job of it . . .[2] If violence were repudiated, what were the alternatives? In certain quarters, there was talk of 'impeaching' Hitler and putting him on trial, but such ideas, however theoretically valid, could, in the context of circumstances, hardly have been implemented. Yet even if violence were adopted, what then? It would not be sufficient simply to assassinate Hitler - or even Hitler and his immediate entourage of Party officials. Such action might produce a traumatic effect, as did the assassinations that have characterised our own era those of John and Robert Kennedy, or Martin Luther King, or Anwar Sadat, or Indira and Rajiv Gandhi - but the machinery of the state, manifested particularly through the SS, would have remained immovably in place. And there were other repercussions to be considered. Most German soldiers and lower-echelon officers had been thoroughly indoctrinated in National Socialism, receiving their formative intellectual ideological training through the Hitler Youth Movement. Apart from those at the front, they were fervent supporters of the regime. To topple the regime would thus be to risk full-scale civil war. It would disastrously divide the army, or plunge the army into open and armed conflict with the SS.
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/16/99 7:15:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: War is necessary for Capitalism's Capitalists to roll over stock. It is only incidental that so many people die. It is only collateral damage. Joshua2 War is also a from of social control. Why are so many bonesman secretaries of War and Defense? Om K Agreed. Among other things, it provides an " us " in us against them. However, I don't think this will work with Kosovo because it's a NATO war, and NATO doesn't have citizens or tribal adherents. NATO is simply something amorphously else. NATO out of the Balkans. US out of NATO. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Foreign Affairs Mag on KLA.
-Caveat Lector- Foreign Affairs Magazine is the mouthpiece of the Councel On Foreign Relations. The CFR is the Brain Trust of the New World Order. --- Joshua2 -- Foreign Affairs May/June 1999 (volume 78, number 3) Kosovo's Next Masters By Chris Hedges INSIDE THE KOSOVO LIBERATION ARMY The rumbles of yet another nationalist earthquake are shaking the former Yugoslavia. Rising from the fetid hovels of Pristina and the concrete-block family farms of rural Kosovo is the newest political and military force to beset the Balkans -- the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), known to Albanians as the Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves. The emergence of this militant armed group, now numbering several thousand fighters, has dimmed hopes that even a compromise agreement with Belgrade could be successfully implemented. Emboldened by NATO's March bombing of the Serbian military, the KLA will wage a protracted guerrilla war in the Serbian province that could ignite a wider war in neighboring Macedonia and Albania, potentially even dragging in Greece and Bulgaria. The KLA is uncompromising in its quest for an independent Kosovo now and a Greater Albania later. And it has, to the consternation of Washington's would-be peacemakers, supplanted the ineffectual leadership of the moderate voice of Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority, Ibrahim Rugova. The KLA is important out of all proportion to its size -- not merely because it will probably eventually get Kosovo to secede from Serbia, but because it now represents the aspirations of most Kosovar Albanians. To understand the current conflict in Kosovo and America's stakes in its resolution, one must understand the KLA, how it came into being, who leads it, what drives it, and why it now speaks for a majority of Kosovars. Even a truly vicious, Bosnia-like wave of atrocities by the Serbs in reprisal for NATO's attacks will only pour fuel on the separatist fire. The grim reality is that we had better get to know the KLA -- because it is not going to go away. THE NEW RADICALS Kosovo's Albanians have grown increasingly embittered. By attempting to include the KLA in the peace process that began in February at the French chateau of Rambouillet, the Western alliance is working feverishly -- even as it bombs the Serbs -- to blunt the momentum toward a war of independence. The allies want NATO troops to separate the province's warring factions, although Belgrade is wary. The underlying idea behind creating a theoretically temporary, NATO-enforced military protectorate in Kosovo is to buy time for a three-year transition period in which ethnic Albanians will be allowed to elect a parliament and other governing bodies -- meeting enough of their aspirations, it is hoped, to keep Kosovo from seceding. The good news is that the Western alliance's response to the Kosovo crisis, however ragged, shows that some lessons have been learned from the bumbling in Bosnia. The Europeans no longer talk about handling matters alone but demand the presence of the United States. Threats have been backed up by force. There is also a consensus that if some kind of a solution is not found soon, the fighting inside Kosovo -- an area the size of Connecticut -- will accelerate and make future intervention difficult, if not impossible. Even the Pentagon officials who fought like wildcats to keep U.S. forces out of Bosnia accept that some 4,000 U.S. troops will have to be deployed in Kosovo to make any peacekeeping force credible. But, as in Bosnia, the West is wedded to a solution that might have worked earlier in the conflict but is now untenable. Serbian ethnic cleansing has taken on a somewhat different character inKosovo than in Bosnia. In Kosovo, Serbian ethnic cleansing is to a large degree tactical, designed to deny the rebels succor from civilians and therefore aimed primarily at the inhabitants of KLA strongholds. But the Serb campaign has been more than brutal enough to make autonomy for Kosovo a nonstarter. The ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, who make up 90 percent of its 2 million inhabitants, cannot remain in Serbia after the horrific recent bloodshed, the displacement of a quarter of a million people, and the razing of scores of villages. They do not trust Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic or the Serbs -- and given Belgrade's bloody campaigns against ethnic minorities over the past decade and its habit of breaking agreements, who can blame them? The Albanians have been radicalized, and their new voice is the KLA. Rugova, the old pacifist, is more a symbol of outmoded moderation than a leader. By ignoring the plight of the Kosovar Albanians for nearly a decade, the West lost much of its credibility before NATO began bombing. Many Albanians feel let down by the world and their own meek leaders. What is most striking, then, about the KLA insurrection is not that it occurred but that it took so long to occur. The KLA fighters are the
[CTRL] URGENT!!! Ground war in Europe appears imminent.
-Caveat Lector- PLEASE PASS THIS INFO TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN. As usual, CAVEAT LECTOR ( reader beware ) we are dealing with war propaganda from all sides.-- Joshua2 --- Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:47:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist Fwd: Another warning re US-Yug, with new details [Fwd: 16.05.99] I'm forwarding to newsgroups and to some mail addresses the fol- lowing, which I've received just now. It supplements another warning in the same direction sent and forwarded on 13.05. -RM Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 06:59:49 +0200 From: democrite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Editions =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E9mocrite?= X-Accept-Language: fr,el,ru,es,af Subject:[Fwd: Warning !!!] ... Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:49:08 +0200 From: World Act Now [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Accept-Language: en To: .. Subject:Warning !!! Alarming scenario: We have here all kind of nationalities so warning is in serbianinform everybody you know about this...esp. any diplomatic and similar relations You have !!! So God Help You [Text in English follows after that in Serbian. - RM] Ovo je danas stiglo (iz Hrvatske) i ako imate mogucnosti da prosledite nekom novinaru da se pripremi javnost na to. Sve govori da se pripremaju za kopnenu invaziju. DT -Original Message- Subject:citaj, Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:34:24 -0500 Sve je spremno, Markale II - Pitanje dana !!! Unatrag dva tjedna se na vise web stranica pojavila vijest da NATO priprema scenario slican onome na sarajevskoj pijaci Markale koji bi im trebao posluziti za animiranje javnosti za upotrebu kopnenih snaga. Do danas nisam bila uvjerena da je to tocno ali sam imala krivo. snip Serbian text. http://www.xs4all.nl/~roman1/warningblackoperations.htm Black operations: Markale market "massacre" the sequel We have been notified from our unofficial sources (rather reliable, so far) that a sequel to Sarajevo Markale market "massacre" is in preparation. NATO countries' public has been reluctant to accept the ground troops deployment. The air raids are not yielding any tangible results. The war can not be won from air alone, and for escalating the air strike to full deployment of ground troops a REALLY good cause is needed. Similar ideas have been toyed with for quite a while. There were rumours of "something" going on, some unspecified preparations being carried out, but no more details given, leaving everything in the realm of the usual propaganda and counter-propaganda of both sides. But latest information we gathered have more disturbing details, adding considerable weight to the rumours: "Reportedly a group of American and German pilots are training for some time now on Yugoslav made Croatian Air Force planes "galeb" and "jastreb". The planes will be painted in the FRY Air Force colours and insignia and used for bombing the ethnic Albanian refugee camps in Albania. That would be the "just" cause for ground troops intervention. Additional facts that support this scenario are: 1. For days NATO has intensified the relocation of refugees from the border regions of Albania and Macedonia further inland. 2. The arrival of NATO aeroplanes into Albania and Skopje is not covered by tv reports as before (business associate in Macedonia confirmed that the number of transport aeroplanes arriving to Skopje has significantly increased). 3. Christian Amanpour has arrived to Albania. " Our comment: It is unclear whether Croatian AF has any of the "galeb" or "jastreb" Yugoslav made planes. It is our guess that all of them were evacuated to Yugoslavia in 1991. But, it would be easy to obtain these planes from some of the African countries, that have purchased them when they were very popular as reliable, low-budget jet planes. We know that several private collectors from USA have purchased some of these planes from the Air Force Museum in Belgrade. So, we can conclude that there are quite a few of these planes outside FR Yugoslavia, and that they can be used as described. Furthermore, according to the stipulations of the June 14th 1996 Agreement on Sub Regional Arms Control signed in Florence, Italy, FR Yugoslavia has decided to get rid of all "galeb" and "jastreb" planes, leaving in service only "Super galeb G4" and "Orao" planes, plus MiG-21 and MiG-29. So, even if an attack on refugee camps would be executed with "galeb" or "jastreb" planes, that could hardly be attributed to FR Yugoslavia Air Force. The movement of refugees further away from the border is a sure sign that there is no expectation of peaceful settlement soon, and that border area has to be cleared
[CTRL] The Bible and our Constitution
-Caveat Lector- "Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian." - United States Supreme Court, 1892. -- The Bible and our Constitution While making certain not to endorse any denomination of religion over another, the founders of this nation made it emphatically clear that the principles upon which this Nation was built are based squarely upon the Bible. Virtually every one of the 55 writers and signers of the United States Constitution were members of various Christian denominations: 29 were Anglicans, 16 to 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 lapsed Quaker and sometimes Anglican, and 1 open deist--Dr. Franklin who attended every kind of Christian worship, called for public prayer, and contributed to all denominations. George Mason is called the father of the Bill of Rights, for he insisted that the first ten amendments be added to the Constitution. The purpose for such an addition? "The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth," Mason said. James McHenry was a member of the Continental Congress, a state legislator, a soldier, and a signer of the Constitution...as well as the president of the first Bible Society in Baltimore. McHenry stated: Neither...let it be overlooked, that public utility pleads most forcibly for the general distribution of the Holy Scriptures. The doctrine they preach, the obligations they impose, the punishment they threaten, the rewards they promise, the stamp and image of divinity they bear, which produces a conviction of their truths, can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability, and usefulness. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney also signed the Constitution, and served as a delegate to the national Constitutional Convention and an author of the Constitution of South Caroline. Pinckney was a statesman, soldier, planter, a brigadier general and a candidate for President and Vice-President. Like the rest of the signers of the Constitution, he too recognized the Sovereignty of God: "Blasphemy against the Almighty is denying his being or providence, or uttering contumelious reproaches on our Saviour Christ. It is punished, at common law by fine and imprisonment, for Christianity is part of the laws of the land." And, for those who fear this sort of Law breeds intolerance or disrespect for others, Patrick Henry boldly declared: It cannot be emphasized too strongly that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded assylum, prosperity and freedom of worship here. Likewise, the Constitution of the United States was drafted so as to be in accordance with the Scriptures, to be the legal foundation of a republican form of government based on that model which God had ordained for the children of Israel. Indeed, Thomas Jefferson even suggested that the national seal be a portrayal of "the children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night." Much of the Constitution and our American common law and organic law is also derived from the principles of the Magna Carta, which expressly forbade monarchial tyranny. In accordance with the spirit of Liberty which motivated those Righteous men of Principle so many years ago, We the members of the U.S. Taxpayers Party gratefully acknowledge the blessing of the Lord God as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of this Nation... The U.S. Constitution established a republic under God, rather than a democracy. In a republic governed by Constitutional law rooted in Biblical law,all life, liberty and property are safe because Law rules. - Preamble, USTP Platform -- This material is authored by and expresses the views of Mich. USTP Web Coordinator C. R. Mason, and is not implied to be the official views of the U.S. Taxpayers Party. --- --- "The rising greatness of our country...is greatly tarnished by the general prevalence of deism, which, with me, is but another name for vice and depravityI hear it is said by the deists that I am one of their number; and indeed that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory (being called a traitor), because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politicsBeing a Christian...is a character which I prize far above all this world has or can boast." - Patrick Henry (from The Life of Patrick Henry of Virginia by A. G. Arnold in 1854) ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Patriot
[CTRL] The Federal Constitution, Product of a Christian Ethos
-Caveat Lector- The Federal Constitution, Product of a Christian Ethos by Andrew Sandlin Is the United States Constitution the product of a Deistic conspiracy breaking covenant with our Sovereign Lord? Alternatively, is it a reflection of godly Christian men whose intent was to establish a Christian republic? My opinion is that the historical data will permit neither conclusion, and that the truth lies somewhere between them. Historical survey There can be no dispute that the colonial Puritan commonwealth had petered out by the eighteenth century. And while the First Great Awakening may have revived individual devotion to Christ, it did not restore the Christian weal. Deism had been introduced into the intelligentsia and other upper classes, especially in New England, and both Anglicanism and Congregationalism had grown cold and rationalistic. It would be a mistake, however, to suppose Deism and Enlightenment were notions widely disseminated in the populace, or that the American society had become largely indifferent to the Faith. Admittedly, Enlightenment fascinated many American intellectuals (even the stalwart Jonathan Edwards was mesmerized by Isaac Newton), but at that nascent period of our country's history, most did not perceive that secularization is the logical conclusion of Enlightenment and therefore they often tried to fit the newer Enlightenment ideas into the older Christian mold (modern Reformed writers like Kuyper, Van Til, Rushdoony, and Hills have exhibited now futile this attempt really is). Religion of the founders and the founding The Federal Constitution was forged in just such an ideational atmosphere. While it would be overreaching to call it a Christian document, it is equally erroneous to conclude that just because it does not explicitly recognize Christ's authority, it exhibits a patently anti-Christian bias. This latter view is expressed, and often quite cogently, in works like James R. Wilson's Prince Messiah's Claims To Dominion over All Governments and the Disregard of His Authority by the United States, In the Federal Constitution. I am ambivalent about the thesis of works like these, because while I endorse entirely the thesis that Christ exercises mediatorial dominion over the nations, and that that dominion should be publicly recognized, I do not agree that the United States Constitution was intentionally designed to subvert that authority. The data just will not bear out these accusations. I especially draw the reader's attention to M. E. Bradford's "Religion and the Framers: The Biographical Evidence," Benchmark, Fall, 1990, IV; John Eidsmoe's Christianity and the Constitution: The Faith of Our Founding Fathers; Stanton Evans's The Theme is Freedom: Religion, Politics, and the American Tradition; American Political Writing During the Founding Era, edited by Charles S. Hyman and Donald S. Lutz; and R. J. Rushdoony's This Independent Republic and The Nature of the American System. If the framers generated an intentionally anti-Christian document, it was certainly in spite of their individual Christian convictions. The extensive investigations of Bradford, Eidsmoe, Evans, Rushdoony and others, as well as an examination of the source documents of that era, reveals that the majority of the founders of the nation and framers of the Federal Constitution were professedly Christian men who deemed impossible a just civil order not anchored in godly faith. They made statements to this effect again and again. It is quite a stretch to conclude their omission of explicit recognition of Christ's authority, shortsighted though it may have been, reflects an assault on Christian orthodoxy. The real problem with the Federal Constitution The main problem with the framers of the Constitution was not, in fact, that they pulled off a Deistic or secularist coup d'e tat, but that they lacked the foresight to realize the possibility of the emergence of an anti-Christian ethos capable of employing a chiefly procedural political document to undermine the Christian Faith. The Federal Constitution, in fact, is largely such a procedural, rather than substantive, document. While all procedures imply a substantive presupposition (which for the Constitution is Christian), it is evident the framers were only interested in marking out the bare guidelines of a federal system of government, and while presuming the covenantal or contractual character of civil government, did not position themselves to create a formal covenant with God similar to the Scottish Solemn League and Covenant. Recall too that at this time the various states were almost little countries, and the union essentially a confederation of these states. Significantly, most of the the states' constitutions required a religious (Christian) profession for office, and thus the framers' intent in writing the Constitution was not to explicate their religious views but to fashion the guidelines of a federal system of government. The
Re: [CTRL] Operators and Things
-Caveat Lector- I've got the book - Operators and Things. It is absolutely amazing and I can do a summary. I don't know how real it is but I've sure taken it into account many times, thinking the reality it describes, is a distinct possibility about how the world is run by invisible beings. Maybe I could scan some of it Nicky Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:523240"::: Those Goddam Martian Reptoids! [from 1958] ::: /A - Subject: ::: Those Goddam Martian Reptoids! [from 1958] ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brother Blue) Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 10:55 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operators and Things by Barbara O'Brien Arlington Books, 1958 from the book jacket: Is there really another race of "people" who control us by telepathy, hynotic suggestion, thought projection, or even rays of a nature unknown to man? Are there actually "beings" visible only to a chosen few? Barbara O"Brien thought so, from the time she awakened one unforgettable morning to find a group of total strangers clustered around her bed, discussing her with ghoulish dispassion -- strangers she alone could see! From the moment Barbara realized these creatures were dedicated to manipulating her life, she became involved in a series of mental and physical adventures that was to last six months -- adventures so astounding to the "normal" mind that The Three Faces of Eve and The Search for Bridey Murphey pale in their light. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Was George Washington a Christian?
-Caveat Lector- Was George Washington a Christian? This is a question often asked today, and it arises from the efforts of those who seek to impeach Washington's character by portraying him as irreligious. Interestingly, Washington's own contemporaries did not question his Christianity but were thoroughly convinced of his devout faith--a fact made evident in the first-ever compilation of the The Writings of George Washington, published in the 1830s. That compilation of Washington's writings was prepared and published by Jared Sparks (1789-1866), a noted writer and historian. Sparks' herculean historical productions included not only the writing of George Washington (12 volumes) but also Benjamin Franklin (10 volumes) and Constitution signer Gouverneur Morris (3 volumes). Additionally, Sparks compiled the Library of American Biography (25 volumes), The Diplomatic Correspondence of the American Revolution (12 volumes), and the Correspondence of the American Revolution (4 volumes). In all, Sparks was responsible for some 100 historical volumes. Additionally, Sparks was America's first professor of history--other than ecclesiastical history--to teach at the college level in the United States, and he was later chosen president of Harvard. Jared Sparks' decision to compile George Washington's works is described by The Dictionary of American Biography. It details that Sparks began . . . . . . what was destined to be his greatest life work, the publication of the writings of George Washington. [Supreme Court] Justice Bushrod Washington, [the nephew of George Washington, the executor of the Washington estate, and] the owner of the Washington manuscripts, was won over by an offer to share the profits, through the friendly mediation of Chief Justice [of the Supreme Court, John] Marshall [who from 1804-1807 had written a popular five volume biography of George Washington], who also consented to take an equal share, twenty-five per cent, with the owner. In January 1827, Sparks found himself alone at Mount Vernon with the manuscripts. An examination of them extending over three months showed that years would be required for the undertaking; and with the owner's consent, Sparks carried off the entire collection, eight large boxes, picking up on the way to Boston a box of diplomatic correspondence from the Department of State, and the [General Horatio] Gates manuscripts from the New York Historical Society. Not content with these, he searched or caused to be searched public and private archives for material, questioned survivors of the Revolution, visited and mapped historic sites. In 1830, for instance, he followed [Benedict] Arnold's [1775] route to Quebec. The first of the twelve volumes of The Writings of George Washington to be published (vol. II) appeared in 1834 and the last (vol. I, containing the biography) in 1837. In Volume XII of these writings, Jared Sparks delved into the religious character of George Washington, and included numerous letters written by the friends, associates, and family of Washington which testified of his religious character. Based on that extensive evidence, Sparks concluded: To say that he [George Washington] was not a Christian would be to impeach his sincerity and honesty. Of all men in the world, Washington was certainly the last whom any one would charge with dissimulation or indirectness [hypocrisies and evasiveness]; and if he was so scrupulous in avoiding even a shadow of these faults in every known act of his life, [regardless of] however unimportant, is it likely, is it credible, that in a matter of the highest and most serious importance [his religious faith, that] he should practice through a long series of years a deliberate deception upon his friends and the public? It is neither credible nor possible. One of the letters Sparks used to arrive at his conclusion was from Nelly Custis-Lewis. While Nelly technically was the granddaughter of the Washingtons, in reality she was much more. When Martha [Custis] married George, she was a widow and brought two young children (John and Martha--also called Patsy) from her first marriage into her marriage with George. The two were carefully raised by George and Martha, later married, and each had children of their own. Unfortunately, tragedy struck, and both John and Patsy died early (by 1781). John left behind his widow and four young children ranging in age from infancy to six years old. At the time, Washington was still deeply involved in guiding the American Revolution and tried unsuccessfully to convince Martha's brother to raise the children. The young widow of John was unable to raise all four, so George and Martha adopted the two younger children: Nelly Parke Custis and George Washington Parke Custis, both of whom already were living at Mount Vernon. Nelly lived with the Washingtons for twenty years, from the time of her birth in 1779 until 1799, the year of her marriage and of George Washington's untimely death.
[CTRL] William Farwell - Empire Trust
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.callisto.si.usherb.ca/~hst247/g2/g2farwell.html A HREF="http://www.callisto.si.usherb.ca/~hst247/g2/g2farwell.html"William Farwell /A - NOTICES BIOGRAPHIQUES 1835 - 1918 Maire et administrateur William Farwell est né à Compton le 20 septembre 1835. Il était le fils de William Farwell et Harriett Can. Farwell épouse Elizabeth Jane Winn le 1 octobre 1860. Deux fils naîtront de ce mariage. Personnage dynamique, Farwell commence dans les affaires en 1852. Il débute en étant marchand et commis entre 1854 et 1861. Il gravira les échelons et deviendra gérant général et président de la Eastern Township Bank. En 1896, il est élu vice-président de l'Association canadienne des banquiers. William s'occupe également de la gestion de plusieurs firmes: International Coal S. Coke, Empire Trust, Ingersoll Rand Co., Jenckes Machine, Consolidated Mining and Smelting, Sherbrooke Railway and Power et Université Bishop. De plus, il est actionnaire de la Sherbrooke Gas and Water à partir de 1886 et est l'un des fondateurs de la Sherbrooke Street Railway en 1895. Farwell se lance en politique municipale pour la première fois en 1903 et est élu maire. Il occupera la scène municipale jusqu'en 1907 où il est encore maire cette année-là. En 1903, il fixe un règlement obligeant les citoyens à se connecter au système d'égoûts de la ville. Bien qu'il est contre la municipalisation de l'électricité, le Conseil consacrera ses efforts à solutionner cette délicate question, surtout durant le deuxième mandat de Farwell, en 1907. Farwell, ainsi que le conseil, entreprend des pourparlers en vue d'acheter la Sherbrooke Power, Light and Heat et fait explorer les possibilités d'utilisation hydro-électrique du site de Westbury. William Farwell décède le 13 octobre 1918 à Sherbrooke. La rue Farwell est donnée en son honneur en 1920. _ Références POTHIER, Louisette, directrice. Les maires de Sherbrooke, 1852-1982, Sherbrooke, La Société des Cantons de l'Est, 1983, pp.127-130 et 144-145 et KESTEMAN, Jean-Pierre. La ville électrique, Sherbrooke 1880-1988, Sherbrooke, Les Éditions Olivier, 1988, pp. 21, 53 et 69. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] History of The Bank of New York
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.bankofny.com/about/ahst.htm A HREF="http://www.bankofny.com/about/ahst.htm"The Bank of New York - About The Bank of New Yo /A - History of The Bank of New York On February 23, 1784, a small advertisement appeared in The New York Packet, calling on the "Gentlemen of this City to establish a BANK on liberal principles, the stock to consist of specie only." At a meeting held at the Merchants Coffee House the next evening, prominent New York citizens launched The Bank of New York. Alexander Hamilton was enlisted to write the new Banks constitution and we opened for business at the Walton House on June 9, 1784. It is rare for an American business or institution to be over 200 years old. The Bank is not only the oldest in New York by some 15 years, but one of the oldest banks in the world, since banking in the form we know it today was just beginning to emerge in the second half of the 18th century. Alexander Hamilton, a prominent New York attorney, went on to become the Secretary of the Treasury in George Washingtons first cabinet. In 1789, almost immediately upon assuming his official duties, Hamilton negotiated the first loan obtained by the new government. The amount was $200,000, issued by The Bank of New York, against which the Treasury drew a series of warrants on the Bank. These warrants were a milestone in establishing the credit of the United States government and the economic independence of the young nation. In 1792 the New York Stock Exchange was formed and the first corporate stock to be traded was The Bank of New York. Also in that year, the Bank loaned money to the Society for Establishing Useful Manufactures to assist in carrying out plans for building factories in Paterson, New Jersey. This loan was the beginning of the Banks support of economic growth in the New York metropolitan area. The Bank was intimately involved with the growth of transportation as well. The construction of the Morris Canal in New Jersey and the Erie Canal in New York were partially funded by the Bank, which also provided financing to the steamboat companies that benefited from these waterways. Trust powers granted to the Bank in the 1830s gave us new areas in which to grow and enabled us to build the fine reputation we have had in trust and investment management for over 160 years. In 1853 the Bank participated in the establishment of the New York Clearing House and then became its home in 1858. The beginning of the new industrial age coincided with the Banks Centenary in 1884. Through investments in nearly every railroad and utility, as well as in the construction of the New York City subway system, we continued to provide vital capital to the expanding American economy. However, far more emphasis was given to conservative practices and retaining the confidence of our customers. That policy enabled the Bank to survive the economic turmoil of the early twentieth century. Through mergers with the New York Life Insurance Trust Company, The Fifth Avenue Bank, and the Empire Trust Company, the Bank expanded its presence in New York and its ability to provide financial services to businesses and individuals throughout Manhattan. In 1969, through the establishment of a bank holding company, the Bank expanded beyond the borders of New York City, establishing a suburban branch network that remains the largest among our competitors. Global expansion began with an office in London in 1966, but a major breakthrough occurred with the acquisition of The Irving Bank Corporation in 1988. This transaction, between two highly complementary institutions, created the tenth largest bank in the nation at that time and set the stage for The Bank of New York today. The acquisitions of National Community Banks in New Jersey and The Putnam Trust Company in Connecticut in the 1990s continued the expansion of our branch network. The broad capabilities that resulted from our continuing investment in technology led to a series of business line acquisitions in securities servicing and asset based lending that enabled us to become a recognized leader in these areas. Over the last several decades, the corporate bank has grown in prominence as a banker to the largest corporations in America and in special industries such as telecommunications and energy. From the vantage point of an institution that financed merchants whose vessels carried goods throughout the world two centuries ago, The Bank of New York looks forward to meeting the challenges and opportunities of todays rapidly changing global financial services marketplace. Copyright 1998, The Bank of New York Company, Inc. Rev: September 23, 1998 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange
[CTRL] Tax History Reseach Center Fellowships
-Caveat Lector- from: http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/center_taxhist.html A HREF="http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/center_taxhist.html"The Academy of Accounting Historians /A - Tax History Reseach Center Fellowships The University of Mississippi The Tax History Research Center (THRC), which is sponsored by the Academy of Accounting Historians and housed at the University of Mississippi, is offering research fellowships of up to $1,000 for individuals wishing to conduct research at the THRC. The grant can be used only for lodging at the Alumni House Motel at the University of Mississipi during the time the researcher is working at the THRC. Based on current room rates, the grant would pay for up to four weeks of lodging at Ole Miss. Applications should be submitted at least two months in advance of the projected visit. Applications should include a cover letter and an approximately one-page proposal explaining how the resources of the THRC would be useful in the applicant's research. Both post-doctoral and pre-doctoral fellowships will be considered. Fellowships would be particularily suitable for those on sabbatical or summer leave. For more information, call Dr. Tonya Flesher at (601) 232-5731 (office) or (601) 234-3969 (home). The THRC has an extensive collection of tax services, Congressional committee reports, books, journals, and other publications dating back to 1909, dealing with the federal income tax. Some state materials, primarily theoretical or policy oriented, are also available. Fellowship applications should be sent to: Dr. Tonya K. Flesher, Director Tax History Research Center School of Accountancy University of Mississippi University, MS 38677 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Parkinson's Law and Alfred the Accountant
-Caveat Lector- from: http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/pub/parkinson_es.html A HREF="http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/pub/parkinson_es.html"Parkinson' s Law and Alfred the Accountant /A - Parkinson's Law and Alfred the Accountant A Temporal Corollary by Ernest Stevelinck Northcote Parkinson made the astute observation: expenditure will rise to meet income. As a corollary it might be observed: the more time you have to do something, the more time it takes to finish. Thus, the person most occupied is precisely the person who has the most free time. An idle person can devote a whole day to the writing and sending of a postcard to a niece on holiday at the seacoast: an hour to find the card, an hour to search the apartment for one's glasses, half an hour to find the niece's addres, an hour and a quarter to write the postcard, and twenty minutes to determine if one should take an umbrella to go to the mailbox. Such a task can take three minutes for a busy person, but the idle person left prostrate after a day of doubt, anguish, and labor. If one admits that work is more engrossing if the amount of time taken to complete it is greater (this is particularily true for office work), then it also follows that there is little relation between the amount of work to be accomplished and the number of clerical staff responsible for its completion. The lack of real activity does not necessarily indicate idleness, and flagrant idleness does not necessarily indicate absence of real acitivity. Activities are inflated in importance and complexity in direct proportion to the time that can be devoted to them. While this is generally understood, it does not allow for later consequences, especially in the area of public administration. Politicians and taxpayers usually assume that an increase in the total strength of civil servants reflects a growing volume of work that must be accomplished. Wicked persons [political correctness requires that they be referred to as "kindness impaired"] might imagine that the multiplication of officials might give some people more leisure time or allow for a reduction of everyone's office hours. But, in fact, there is no direct relation between the number of officials and the quantity of work to be accomplished. The increase is the number of clerks is governed by Parkinson's Law and becomes a constant whether the "work to do" volume increases, decreases, or is even reduced to nothing. It is a fact that an official in a "growth" business would multiply his subordinates and not his rivals. It is also known that such build-up works to their mutual advantage. Imagine an overworked official named Alfred the Accountant. It doesn't much matter whether this impression is justified or now. To remedy this overwork (real or imagined) three solutions are availible: He can resign. He can ask to have a colleague share his work, and He can ask for assistance from two subordinates. Alfred cannot really choose any other solution than the third one. By resigning, he loses his right of retirement. Sharing work with a fellow worker puts him at the same level as himself and adds a potential rival for the day when it would be necessary to appoint a replacement for hiss boss (when he retires). It is clear that Alfred prefers to have two subordinates who would add to his prestige. By dividing the work between the two (Barry and Bill) he will have the advantage of being the only one with a comprehensive and complete view of the situation. At this point it is necessary to understand that Barry and Bill are of equal status. To appoint Barry alone would not be possible. Because Barry would share the work with Alfred and thus become his colleague. The subordinate must, therefore, be two or more in number and each kept in fear that the other will gain a promotion. When Bill in turn, complains of being overworked, Alfred will recommend that Bill be given two assisants. But, to avoid internal conflict, Alfred will recommend that Barry also be given two assistants so the two positions remain essentially the same. Thus, with the hiring of Charles and Chistopher, Donna and David, the promotion be seniority of Alfred is practically assured. Seven officials are now doing what one man alone did in the past. But these seven people as a group now have such a large amount of work that they do not have any free time, and Alfred has in fact more work than ever. A document coming in can pass by all the officials: Christopher decides that this affair should be handled by Donna, who transmits to Barry a draft of a reply. Barry completely changes to draft before he asks Bill for advice who, in turn, asks Charles to work on the project. Meanwhile, Charles takes his holiday. The file is remitted to David who writes out a note, which is signed by Bary and returned to Bill who makes modifications according to the note, the modified reply is then given to ALfred. What then is Alfred going to do? He could easily sign
[CTRL] The Academy of Accounting Historian
-Caveat Lector- from: http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/ A HREF="http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/"Weatherhead - The Academy of Accounting Histori /A - The Academy of Accounting Historian About the Academy Research Centers Programs Activities Publications Organizations Services Special Projects Roster of Members Other Accounting Sites About the Academy | Research Centers | ProgramsActivities | Publications | Organizationss | Projects | Members | Related Sites Academy News Mail us your comments! ANNOUNCEMENT! The Academy of Accounting Historians 1999 Research Conference "The Rhetoric of Accounting History: Conversations Across Time and Space" The Westin Harbour Castle Hotel Toronto, Ontario, Canada November 18-20, 1999 See the proposed site for the 2000 Conference = H I S T O R Y: The Academy of Accounting Historians was formed in 1973. It was granted a charter as a not-for-profit corporation in the State of Alabama and, subsequently, was granted tax-exempt status in the United States. O B J E C T I V E S: The objectives of the Academy are to encourage research, publication, teaching and personal interchanges in all phases of Accounting History and its interrelation with business and economic history. Membership Address By-Laws Area of Interest Codes Geographic Dispersion of Academy Membership Membership Information = from: http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/annual/Debard_Gen.htm A HREF="http://weatherhead.cwru.edu/Accounting/annual/Debard_Gen.htm"Annual Reports at the Univ. of Alabama /A - Academy of Accounting Historians UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA HISTORICAL ANNUAL REPORT COLLECTION Located in the Bruno Library, Third Floor - Stacks Reports Catalogued by: Alpha Beta Chapter of Beta Alpha Psi, Culverhouse School of Accountancy COMPANY NAME DATES MISSING YEARS 601 Debardeleben Coal Corporation 1938 - 1960 602 DeBeers Consolidated Mines, Limitedd 1929 - 1973 603 Decca Limited 1934 - 1977 604 Deere and Company 1912 - 1980 605 Delaware Lackawanna Western Railroad, Company 1856 - 1959 1860-98;1911-13;1916-26 606 Delaware Hudson Company 1901 - 1967 1937 607 Delhi Taylor Oil Corporation 1946 - 1962 608 Del Monte Corporation 1970 - 1978 609 Delta Airlines 1953 - 1980 610 Dennison Manufacturing Company 1929 - 1980 611 Denver Rio Grand Western Railroad Company 1924 - 1969 612 Desoto Inc 1969 - 1980 613 Detroit Edison 1925 - 1975 614 Detroit Mackince Railway Company 1928 - 1940 615 Devoe Raynolds, Inc 1923 - 1963 616 Diamond International Corporation 1959 - 1981 617 Diamond Match Company 1919 - 1958 1924 618 Diamond Shamrock 1967 - 1980 619 Diamond State Telephone Company 1929 - 1940 620 Dictaphone Corporation 1925 - 1978 621 Deisel-Wemmer-Gilbert Corporation 1930 - 1940 622 Di Giorgio Corporation 1929 - 1980 623 Diversified Mortgage Investors 1971 - 1979 624 DixieCup Company 1936 - 1956 625 Doehler Diecasting Company 1928 - 1937 626 Dome Mines Limited 1926 - 1980 627 Domtar Limited 1962 - 1980 628 Dorr-Oliver, Inc 1954 - 1972 629 Douglas Aircraft Company 1935 - 1966 630 Dow Chemical Company 1931 - 1980 1943 - 1961 631 Dow Jones Company, Inc 1972 - 1980 632 Drackett Company 1952 - 1964 633 Drapper Corporation 1956 - 1966 634 Dravo Corporaion 1955 - 1975 635 Dresser Industries, Inc 1929 - 1980 636 Drexel Enterprises 1957 - 1967 637 Duke Power Company 1929 - 1980 638 Duluth Missabe Iron Range Railway Company 1937 - 1961 639 Duluth South Shore Atlantic Railway Company 1926 - 1937 640 Dun Bradstreet, Inc 1967 - 1980 641 Duplan Corporation 1928 - 1975 642 Dupont De Nemours Company 1924 - 1969 643 Duquesne Light Company 1929 - 1980 644 E. I. Dupont De Nemours Company 1951 - 1980 645 E. J. Brach Sons 1952 - 1965 646 E. L. Bruch Company 1930 - 1968 1946 647 Eagle-Picher Industries 1952 - 1972 648 EASCO Corporation 1969 - 1980 649 Eastern Airlines, Inc 1938 - 1980 650 Eastern Gas Fuel Associates 1930 - 1980 651 Eastern Stainless Steel 1920 - 1968 652 Eastern Sugar Associates 1934 - 1957 653 Eastern Utility Associates 1928 - 1940 654 Eastman Kodak Company 1927 - 1980 1941 655 Eaton Corporation 1971 - 1980 656 Eaton Manufacturing Company 1924 - 1964 657 Eaton, Yale Town, Inc 1965 - 1970 658 EBSCO Industries, Inc 1958 - 1972 659 El Paso Company 1974 - 1980 660 El Paso Natural Gas Company 1930 - 1973 661 Electric Musical Industries 1932 - 1970 662 Electric Bond Share Company 1924 - 1967 663 Electric Power
[CTRL] United Fruit Co. History - Minor C. Keith
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/clan/whitis/mark_rogan_whitis/transcribed/gen0 032.txt A HREF="http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/clan/whitis/mark_rogan_whitis/transcribe d/gen0032.txt"http://www.freelabs.com/.../gen0032.txt /A - [GEN0032] [This aparently appeared in the New York HErald Tribune on 6/15/29 - MRW] Minor C. Keith, United Fruit Co. Counder, Dead -- Builder of South American Railway System Suc- cumbs in Babylon, L.I. - Began in Broadway Store -- Constructed Line Through Jungle on His Own Credit - Special to the Herald Tribune BABYLON, L.I., June 14 - minor Cooper Keith, builder of a great rail- way system in Central America and a founder of the United Fruit Company, died of pneumonia today after a brief illness at his home in West Islip. He was eight-one years old and had maintained a residence here for sixty- five years. The death of Mr. Keith brings to a close a colorful career, which is de- scribed in detail by Samuel Crowther in his book, "Romance of the Tropics." Mr. Keith, who was pres- dent of the International Railways of Central America, began his business career in a store in Broadway, New York City, at a weekly wage of $3, after he had completed a private school education. He was born in Brooklyn in 1848, the son of the late Minor Hubbel and Emily Meigs Keith. Lumberman Turns Cattle Raiser His father had been in the lumber business, and young Keith, developing a distate for his first position after a few months, became a lumber sur- veyor. His first year in this field netted him $3,000. He sold out his lumber interests when he was twenty- two years old and set himself up as a cattle raiser on alonely island at the mouth ofthe Rio Grande. In two years he build up an extensive range with 4,000 head of cattle and 2,000 hogs. He had received an invitation from his brother, Henry Meiggs Keith, to join him in the constructio of a rail- road in Cost Rica, so he joined his brother in that country, at that time a fever-ridden jungle, and the two men began to build a line from Puerto Limon, on the Atlantic side, to San Jose, the capital, on the Pacific. Henry Meiggs, an uncle and a builder of the first railroad across the Andes, had turned over to Mr. Keiths brother the contract for this road. At the start the enterprise was beset wit grave peril and in the first twenty- five miles Mr. Keith's three brothers and 4,000 other men lost their lives. De- spite this, Mr. Keith, on his own credit, continued for several years to build the line, contracting in 1882 with the government to accrange the external debt and to complete th road to San Jose. He went to live in London for three years, where he arranged the ex- ternal debt and also the financin of [pounds]1,2000,000 in bonds to finish the rail- way. while building the road on his own credit he suffered losses of more than $1,000,000 which the Costa Rican government paid to him vounterily. First Banana Shipper Meanwhile, Mr. Keith had learned of the possibilities of raising bananas in that tropical section. In 1872 he started the first banana plantation in Central america, sending his first shipments to New Orleans. Mr. Keith made the first banana shipment by steamship from Costa Rica, Panama, Columbia and Nicaragua to New Yrok and New Or- leans. In the days when he first under- took the raising of the fruit the entire annual shipment from the tropics amounted to approximately 300, bunche, carried on sailing vessels. To- day this section exports annually more than 50,000,000 bunches. By 1893 he controld the banana industry in Cost Rica and the next year, with the late Andrew W. Preston, he organized the United Fruit Com- pany. Mr. Keith already had acquired a fleet of steamships to transport his fruit and fore his holdings he received three-fifths of the company's total capital at that time. In order to give more attention to his interests he re- signed the first vice-presidency of the United Fruit Company several years ago. He had married Cristin, daughter of the late Jose Maria Castor, former President of Costa Rica, in 1893 and long had been identified with public improvements of that country. Under the laws of New Jersey he organized the Guatemalan Railways, which be- came the International Railways of Central America in 1912. In recent years his most important business connection was th financing by this of the Republic of Sal- vador. The country, requiring a loan, sought Mr. Keith's aid at a time when the republic owed two years' back sal- aries to emplyees, labored under a heavy internal debt and was in default of its loan in London. He excersied keen foresight after sev- eral months of unsuccessful attempts to negotiate the 8 per cent bonds in the United States and Europe. As a last resort the International Railways borrowed cash on their three-year notes in London. The bonds all were sold and the loan
[CTRL] [1] American Imperialism in The United States 1898-1935
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.boondocksnet.com/ailtexts/loveston.html A HREF="http://www.boondocksnet.com/ailtexts/loveston.html"American Imperialism: The Menace of the Greates /A --[1] -- American Imperialism in The United States 1898-1935 Edited by Jim Zwick Copyright © 1995-1999 Jim Zwick American Imperialism: The Menace of the Greatest Capitalist World Power By Jay Lovestone (Chicago: Workers Party of America, n.d. [1925]). Chapter I The Growth of American Imperialism The United States entered the arena of capitalism as a world power after the Spanish-American War in 1898. After having routed Spain the United States secured undisputed control of the American Mediterranean -- the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. Puerto Rico was annexed. A protectorate was established over Cuba. In Cuba there is invested about $1,000,000,000 of American capital in the sugar industry alone. This is 60 percent of the total capitalization of the sugar industry. Fully 85 percent of the capital invested in the Cuban railways is American. One-third of Cuba's imports is edible and more than half of that third comes from the United States. According to the last reports of the Department of Commerce, Cuba has outstripped Japan as our second best customer in steel. Turning to the Pacific, the Yankee imperialists annexed in quick order the Philippines, Guam and Hawaii. In the Philippines, the American imperialists have a territory the size of the Kingdom of Italy and with a population greater than that of Canada or Hungary. Sixty-five percent of the foreign commerce of the Philippines is done with this country. Close to $300,000,000 of American capital is invested in these islands, which are teeming with natural resources and are only three days away from China, the richest and cheapest labor mine in the world. They are the gateway of American capital to the prize market of the Far East where 800,000,000 people live. Then followed the complete domination by the United states thru the successful engineering of the revolt of Panama against the Republic of Colombia. Having secured "general supervision" of the new government and unrestricted control of the Canal Zone, the American capitalists proceeded to establish their hegemony over Nicaragua and mastery of the alternative canal route. Scarcely had the ink dried in Wilson's democratic notes when American troops dissolved the Haitian parliament. Today the United States is the political master of over 150,000 square miles and almost 10,000,000 people in Central America and the Caribbean, which has become an American lake. In the Pacific, the United States has an island empire of an area of more than 125,000 square miles and a p opulation of at least 13,000,000. "Peaceful Penetration" Our imperialists are also engaged in the "peaceful penetration" of other countries. In recent years particular attention has been paid by our capitalists to Canada, Mexico, Central and South America. Because of the collapse of the European market American investors and merchants have been making especially strong efforts to develop these markets. In the Latin American countries the United States has today invested $610,000,000 in public securities and $3,150,000,000 in industries. 1. In Canada The last annual report of the Canadian Commissioner of Trade shows the rapidity and extent of the hold the Yankee exploiters have on Canadian resources. The total amount of American capital invested in Canada is more than $2,500,000,000 and is today more than the entire British interest. American investors now hold 18 l/2 percent or $701,000,000 of Canadian government, provincial and municipal securities, as against only 12.8 percent or $511,000,000 held by British investors. Almost 25 percent (24.1) of the Canadian Pacific Railway shares are in the hands of American capitalists. American interests are rapidly assuming control of Canada's mines, railways, motor car and accessories industries, meat packing, rubber, paint, metals, pulp and paper, and refined petroleum industries. In the manufacturing and associated water power industries the American investments are now placed at well over one billion dollars. British investments in similar enterprises are only 350 million dollars. In Canadian public utilities, forest, and mining industries American investments are estimated as considerably in excess of British investments. Sixty-one percent of the capital invested in the motor car industry was found to be American in 1919. More than 40 percent of the electrical apparatus, meat packing, rubber, paint, varnish, brass, copper, condensed milk, and refined petroleum are United States owned. In 1920 approximately $250,000,000 of the United States money was invested in the Canadian pulp and paper industry. This was about 80 percent of the total capital
[CTRL] Credit Card Processor Holds Y2K Funds For 210 Days
-Caveat Lector- I have just been informed by a company from which I ordered some Y2K items that their credit card processor (not the bank) has placed a 210 day hold on all charged funds for Y2K related products. I have heard rumors about this recently, but this is the first time I have heard about it first-hand. This puts smaller and mail-order merchants in quite a bind. I have asked the merchant for more information and am contemplating raising objections with Visa and Mastercard should this prove to be supportable. I'm not sure what their relationship might be to the processor, but if they are not behind it, their positions on the issue might carry some weight. Has anyone else heard about this sort of thing happening? The credit card processor is one of the largest in the business. I'm quite sure that it doesn't take them 210 days to get paid by the merchant's bank. Who do you suppose is behind this? Why are Y2K purchases being held up, but not other types of purchases.? Apparently someone at a high level doesn't want us to be prepared in the event of Y2K related problems. Any input on this issue would be appreciated. ... Eric DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [2] American Imperialism in The United States 1898-1935
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.boondocksnet.com/ailtexts/loveston.html A HREF="http://www.boondocksnet.com/ailtexts/loveston.html"American Imperialism: The Menace of the Greates /A --[2]-- Chapter V The United States -- The World's Banker and Manufacturer Gigantic Industrial Development The World War has given tremendous impetus to the expansion of American industry. America has become the leading industrial, trading and banking nation of the world. Abstractly one might still contend that the United States is a self-sustaining nation. But we are already dependent, if not for our livelihood, at least for our prosperity, on the world market. Our wheat growers look toward Liverpool for the price they are to receive for their produce. The cotton growers of the South, as well as the steel workers of Pittsburgh, are closely interwoven with the markets of Europe. The war has increased the dependence of the United States on the world for the disposal of its surplus. The tremendous development of American industrial enterprises since the war can best be seen from the following figures. From 1914 to 1919 the number of establishments in our industries rose from 275,791 to 290,105. At the same time the number of wage earners in these establishments increased from 7,036,247 to 9,0996,372. The capital invested in these industries rose from $22,790,979,937 to $44,569,593,771 during this period. The value of the products rose from $24,246,434,724 to $62,418,078,773. For instance, the value of our iron and steel and their products increased from $4,281,997,816 to $8,711,843,201. The value of our crops leaped from $6,112,000,000 to $8,133,046,000; animal products $3,783,000,000 to $6,513,600,000; manufactures, $9,878,346 000 to $17, 697,000,000; mineral output increased from $2,118,300,000 to $5,607,000,000; forest products, $568,820,000 to $1,680,900,000. The national income of the United States has increased from $33,200,000,000 to $52,457,000,000 in this period. From 1912 to 1922 the total national wealth of the country increased from $186,299,664,000 to $320,803,862,000, or a gain of more than 72 percent. Our merchant marine has grown from 5,427,536 tons in 1914 to 17,062,460 in 1922. Ships of American registry carried 45.5 percent of our foreign trade during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1923. In 1913 ships of American registry carried only 11 percent of our imports and 9 percent of our exports. Undisputed Financial Supremacy America has become the banker of the world. The Department of Commerce in its last annual report has stated that the world required no less than $4,692,000,000 to pay its current commercial obligation to the United States. Since the armistice November 11, 1918, European loans to the extent of 186,750,000 have been floated in the United States. In war debts alone the Allies owe America over $11,000,000,000. America has more than half the world's gold, $4,340,000,000, at this writing. In the last calendar year alone the world has sent to the United States $332,715,812 in gold. How rapidly the world's gold has been drifting into the United States can be seen from the latest figures of the Department of Commerce showing that for the 11 months ending November, 1913, we imported $1,608,570,909 worth of gold. For the same period in 1923 we imported $3,504,500,031. Since the war only four Scandinavian loans have been placed in London at the total value of $37,000,000. At the same time there were ten loans placed in dollars in New York at the total value of $162,000,000. America has been turned from a debtor nation into a creditor nation. In 1915 the European capitalists held $2,704,000,000 worth of United States railway stocks and securities. Two years afterwards more than half of these holdings were transferred to American hands. In 1914 more than one-fourth of the stocks of the United States Steel Corporation were held in Europe. Today the proportion is less than one-tenth. Because of the great need for credit for their huge borrowings, France and England sent over the best of their gilt-edge securities during the war. Through the investment of capital abroad the United States has become the silent partner in the fate of every established order in the world. In 1923 alone American capitalists bought foreign securities to the value of $410,000,000. Our foreign trade has increased from $2,250,822,000 in 1913 to $7,508,424,000 in 1923. Master of World's Available Resources In 1917 the United States exercised political or territorial control over 67 percent of the petroleum produced throughout the world, and over 72 percent of the petroleum produced was in the financial grip of Wall Street. The 1923 oil production reports show that 72.5 percent of the total world oil supply estimated produced was in the United States. Adding the quantity of crude oil imported, one finds that the United States today controls at least 80 percent of the world's available oil supply. But nearly 50 percent
[CTRL] History - Martin's Gen'L Store Research site
-Caveat Lector- from: http://nsn.nslsilus.org/wrkhome/hmca/history.htm A HREF="http://nsn.nslsilus.org/wrkhome/hmca/history.htm"History - Martin's Gen'L Store /A - Historical information about Millburn. Gathered from our archives. OVERVIEW If we had to pick just one item for you to look at, we'd recommend Esther Foster's pamphlet written in 1956. TIME LINE We've created a time line for Millburn that presents the major events. You can follow developments through the years. Major Themes Good quality land available, at cheap prices. This is what brought the people to the area. Find out about these government land sales. We've documented twenty square miles with names and maps. History is made by nature and by people. Nature has been pretty fair to us, except for occasional bad weather. Most of our history documents the people in our community. We have developed biographical sketches for many of Millburn's families. We have quite a collection of names and dates. Millburn was a farming community. Most of our early settlers were farmers. Check out our farm history pages. Families came into town to get their mail, do their shopping, and learn what was going on. At one time Millburn had three stores operating. Find out more about Millburn's General Stores. Millburn Church was both the religious and social center of the community. The church building was the largest building for people to assemble within. It was used often, hosting concerts, speakers, community meetings, plays, and other activites. We have on record one event that was attended by five hundred. Our families knew the value of an education and it was important for their children to attend school. Many graduates went to boarding high schools and then to college. Our Millburn Area Schools material covers the various districts, their consolidation, teacher biographies, and teaching experiences. We have some old photos of the buildings. The Millburn Mutual Insurance Company gained widespread importance when this company began insuring against loss by fire in 1855 and received a special charter from the Illinois Legislature in 1865. We have early records for the Company, the oldest mutual company in Illinois. UNDERGROUND RAILROADMillburn supported the anti-slavery sentiment in the North. We're clearly established for active participation in the local folklore. Read about our participation in the underground railroad. Millburn's young men did their patriotic duty when the call to arms was sounded. Read about Millburn's participation in the Civil War. Millburn's citizens were profoundly affected by the coming of the railroad. Even in the 1800's, people were thinking "not in MY backyard". Read all about railroads in the Millburn area. Progress was no stranger in Millburn. We had street lights and wooden sidewalks. Dr. Jamison wanted his patients to be able to call him by telephone. His daughter, Vida Jamison White, has written down her Recollections of the Millburn Farmer's Line Telephone Co. and switchboard, which connected several Millburn area communities in 1898. Our Research Tools We'll let you use them too. What is normally a pretty quiet place but can tell you a lot? Our families treated their cemetery like a park. It had an underground sprinkling system and a two seat privy. See what we've learned by studying our cemetery and participating in Memorial Day services. BEATRICE ANDERSON'S SCRAPBOOKSWe began our museum with a collection of scrapbooks that had been the work of Beatrice Anderson. We could not have gotten started without this information. We'll let you browse her voluminous scrapbooks, which detail early settlers, development of the community and schools, as well as the underground railroad. We have collected lots and lots of newspaper clippings about Millburn, starting back in 1845. Read gossip, about births and deaths, farm sales notices, even about arson, fraud, and theft. We add to this collection constantly. There is quite a lot more history on our useful research books page. Whole chapters are available to help you in your quest. We have many more items in the museum that we just haven't gotten around to putting on our website yet: Census Index Books for Federal Census for several years and several townships around Millburn, in Lake County, Illinois. Marriage Index Books for Lake County, Illinois for several early years. Records for the turn of the century telephone companies that developed in the Millburn area, including the right-of-way papers. Back to Martin's Gen'L Store Museum Home Page
[CTRL] NY Banking History
-Caveat Lector- from: http://banking.state.ny.us/histt.txt A HREF="http://banking.state.ny.us/histt.txt"http://banking.state.ny.us/histt.t xt /A - Some interesting sites. Om K - T.B.I. Credit Union 11/28/1938 NYS Chartered Temple Beth Israel Credit Union 02/15/1967 Name Change To T.B.I. Credit Union 08/23/1995 Liquidated T.C. Ziraat Bankasi 09/01/1983 Licensed T.C. Ziraat Bankasi Taconic Valley Bank 1907 Established Taconic Valley Bank 01/28/1985 Merge To State Norstar Bank of Upstate NY (8/84-6/88) 06/24/1988 Merge To State Norstar Bank of Callicoon 06/24/1988 Name Change To Norstar Bank of Upstate NY 06/08/1992 Name Change To Fleet Bank of New York 07/01/1994 Name Change To Fleet Bank 11/13/1997 Merge To Federal Fleet Bank N.A. Taipeibank 03/11/1991 Licensed Taipeibank Taiyo Bank, LTD. 10/01/1973 Merge To State Bank of Kobe, Limited, The 10/01/1973 Name Change To Taiyo Kobe Bank, Ltd., The 04/01/1990 Merge To State Mitsui Bank, Ltd., The 04/01/1990 Name Change To Mitsui Taiyo Kobe Bank, Ltd, The 04/01/1992 Name Change To Sakura Bank, Limited, The Taiyo Kobe Bank and Trust Company 09/28/1988 NYS Chartered Taiyo Kobe Bank and Trust Company 03/24/1992 Acquire By Merger Mitsui Finance Trust Company of New York 03/24/1992 Name Change To Sakura Trust Company Taiyo Kobe Bank, Ltd., The 02/16/1963 Licensed Bank of Kobe, Limited, The 10/01/1973 Acquire By Merger Taiyo Bank, Ltd. 10/01/1973 Name Change To Taiyo Kobe Bank, Ltd., The 04/01/1990 Merge To State Mitsui Bank, Ltd., The 04/01/1990 Name Change To Mitsui Taiyo Kobe Bank, Ltd, The 04/01/1992 Name Change To Sakura Bank, Limited, The Tanners National Bank of Catskill, The 1831 Established Tanners Bank 1865 Convert Federal Tanners National Bank of Catskill, The 03/01/1972 Merge To State Mechanics and Farmers Bank of Albany 01/01/1976 Merge To State Bank of New York, The (9/1922-10/1989) 01/01/1984 Company Sold To Trustco Bank New York 01/09/1989 Name Change To Trustco Bank New York 02/01/1995 Convert Federal Trustco Bank, N.A. Tanners' Bank 1831 Established Tanners Bank 1865 Convert Federal Tanners National Bank of Catskill, The 03/01/1972 Merge To State Mechanics and Farmers Bank of Albany 01/01/1976 Merge To State Bank of New York, The (9/1922-10/1989) 01/01/1984 Company Sold To Trustco Bank New York 01/09/1989 Name Change To Trustco Bank New York 02/01/1995 Convert Federal Trustco Bank, N.A. Tappan Zee National Bank 1955 Established Tappan Zee National Bank of Nyack 02/01/1964 Name Change To Tappan Zee National Bank 01/01/1972 Company Sold To Chemical New York Corporation 01/01/1972 Name Change To Chemical Bank Hudson Valley, N.A. 03/31/1977 Merge To State Chemical Bank 07/14/1996 Name Change To Chase Manhattan Bank, The Tappan Zee National Bank of Nyack 1955 Established Tappan Zee National Bank of Nyack 02/01/1964 Name Change To Tappan Zee National Bank 01/01/1972 Company Sold To Chemical New York Corporation 01/01/1972 Name Change To Chemical Bank Hudson Valley, N.A. 03/31/1977 Merge To State Chemical Bank 07/14/1996 Name Change To Chase Manhattan Bank, The Tarrytown North Tarrytown Building Loan Asso 11/30/1890 NYS Chartered Tarrytown North Tarrytown Building Loan Assoc 01/19/1938 Name Change To Tarrytown North Tarrytown Savings Loan Assoc 06/15/1995 Convert Federal Tarrytowns Bank, FSB Tarrytown North Tarrytown Savings Loan Assoc 11/30/1890 NYS Chartered Tarrytown North Tarrytown Building Loan Assoc 01/19/1938 Name Change To Tarrytown North Tarrytown Savings Loan Assoc 06/15/1995 Convert Federal Tarrytowns Bank, FSB Tarrytowns, FSB 11/30/1890 NYS Chartered Tarrytown North Tarrytown Building Loan Assoc 01/19/1938 Name Change To Tarrytown North Tarrytown Savings Loan Assoc 06/15/1995 Convert Federal Tarrytowns Bank, FSB Taurus Finance S.A. 12/24/1990 Licensed Taurus Finance S.A. 08/06/1992 Name Change To Banque du Credit Agricole (Suisse) SA 02/26/1997 Closed Taxpayers Credit Union 04/20/1927 NYS Chartered Taxpayers Credit Union 11/28/1951 Liquidated Teachers' Building Loan Assoc of New York City 09/01/1888 NYS Chartered Teachers' Building Loan Assoc of New York City 12/21/1945 Liquidated Teachers' Co-Op Building Loan Assoc of New Yor 07/06/1888 NYS Chartered Teachers' Co-Op Building Loan Assoc of New York 04/30/1940 Liquidated Temple Beth David Credit Union 12/03/1934 NYS Chartered Temple Beth David Credit Union 02/16/1948 Liquidated Temple Beth Israel Credit Union 11/28/1938 NYS Chartered Temple Beth Israel Credit Union 02/15/1967 Name Change To T.B.I. Credit Union 08/23/1995 Liquidated Terminal Exchange Bank of New York 1921 Established Terminal Exchange Bank of New York 04/01/1923 Merge To State Hudson Trust Company
[CTRL] Cuba claims new crop diseases were planted by U.S.
-Caveat Lector- Cuba claims new crop diseases were planted by U.S. Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Agence France-Press HAVANA (May 15, 1999 7:03 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Cuba's agricultural minister claimed Saturday that seven new diseases that have infected crops on the island nation over the past four years were deliberately dumped by the United States. Speaking at the start of the Fourth Iberamerican Agricultural Forum here, Cuban Agricultural Minister Alfredo Jordan blasted the "deliberate introduction of plagues and diseases, as in the case of the Trips Palmi insect." In 1997, Cuba claimed the United States had dumped Trips Palmi insects, known for their ability to devastate crops, from an airplane onto the island. Washington has denied the accusation. Jordan said the insects had "swept across" more than 18,772 acres of potato crops. "Over a few weeks, they were either destroyed or seriously damaged." "Other plagues have spread across our crops without any technical or natural reasons, since these diseases did not previously exist in Cuba or neighboring countries," Jordan said. From 1978 to 1993, 15 new diseases were identified on the island and since 1995, seven new ones have appeared, according to Jordan. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How the pie is sliced. Concentration of wealth.
-Caveat Lector- Now I don't know how this fellow Thomas Paine got on the list, but he sure is worth reading...imagine he won't be around long. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] quotes to remember
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:36:04 -0400 From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: ij.net Subject:SNET: quotes to remember Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Our fingers will be in every pie..." Senator Robt Taft "A lovely piece of real estate..." Secretary of State George Schultz on the invasion of Grenada, 1983 "Television was our chief tool in selling our policy..." National Security Council Richard Haas on the Gulf War "Hamburgers? Hamburgers come from hamburger patches..." Ronald McDonald answering a kids question "Where do hamburgers come from?" Lying or fabricating evidence is a serious offense...it would ruin my career..." Officer Scott Chaulker, after fabricating evidence, Univ. of West Florida Police Department "Shoot all you want, we'll make more..." Rockwell International Weapons Div. "Our condition at home is forcing us to commercial expansion...day by day production is exceeding home consumption...we are after markets, the greatest markets in the world..." Col. Charles Darby re-Quoted from the Headcrash CD Overdose On Tradition Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) Gun Control I
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:14:04 -0700 From: David Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Gun Control I Post Number 122: Gun Control 1 Never in history has any government disarmed the people of the nation unless genocide was planned. For reference, please see Russia and China in this century, not to mention Nazi Germany. The intent of the so-called leaders of any nation can be revealed, clearly, in these actions to create a defenseless populace. The frightening thing is that so few people understand that the country which is the premier leader in disarming people is the British government. As the quote which follows reveals, the British have been doing this for a long time, and not solely in India. A study of what went on in South Africa during the Boer Wars will give you a very good look into the heart and soul of the British, and it is not a pretty sight. For the first time that I know of, extermination camps were used for civilians by the British in the Boer Wars. Now, they were not called this, but by far the greatest losses the Boers suffered during these wars was the frightening losses suffered in these camps, of their women, old men and children. And it makes no sense to argue that these deaths were an accident, just as it does no good to argue that the so-called Un-Constitutional laws within the United States are an accident, and if we just work a little harder, we can get them changed. Ridiculous! If they were an accident, they would be changed already. Just as the way that the British ran their camps in South Africa would have changed after the first 10,000, or maybe after the first 20,000 deaths in the camps. That the British did not change how the camps were operated reveals the true intent behind the camps, as nothing else can, just as the laws which continue to be enacted within the Untied States reveals the true intent behind those in Washington, DC. For reference, see Post #4; Real republicans. "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act which deprived a whole nation of arms as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446. When the police can't protect us OCR May 2, 1999 Why did the police SWAT team, whose armored members surrounded the high school for hours, not enter the building more quickly? Predictably enough, the Columbine High School massacre has provoked calls by the Clinton administration and gun-control activists to do something about gun violence, such as further limiting Americans' access to firearms. The basic idea behind gun control is that average people should not be allowed to possess firearms for self-protection since some will use them improperly - but should depend on the police and other authorities in the face of danger. Yet a close look at the tragedy in Littleton, Colo. does more to debunk this basic gun-control premise than to support it. An article in The New York Times last week gingerly raised a question that has become a heated topic on the Internet and talk radio: Why did the police SWAT team, whose armored members surrounded the high school for hours, not enter the building more quickly? In a recent column, James Bovard, author of freedom in Chains: The Rise of the State and the Demise of the Citizen, quoted some of the explanations offered by Littleton-area police: One deputy who initially exchanged fire with a shooter, then left to call for backup, said his actions helped fleeing students. The sheriff said his forces were outgunned. A sheriff's department spokesman said they were worried about protecting policemen. These bromides only reinforce Mr. Bovard's premise: [T]he ... slow response by SWAT teams and other lawmen to the killings in progress turned a multiple homicide into a historic massacre. The ... excuses being offered vivify how law enforcement has no legal liability to people they fail to protect. The Colorado killings offer stark evidence why citizens cannot rely on government for personal safety. Indeed, the government's position is simple: We don't trust you to protect yourself with handguns or rifles, but the police have no obligation to protect you, either. This point, rather than hand-wringing about violent video games and easy access to guns, needs to capture more attention, because it holds the key to making schools safer. There's nothing wrong with trying to learn what makes some seemingly normal teens commit such an atrocity. Or to look at nihilistic aspects of our culture, which may have contributed to the killings. But such approaches offer imprecise answers at best. Even if all guns were outlawed, the black market would flourish, just as it does for illegal drugs. Rather than aim for the unachievable goal of banishing all firearms, policy makers should look for ways to ensure that
[CTRL] (Fwd) For Your Own Good
-Caveat Lector- From www.reason.com/ogmyt.html For Your Own Good Ten Myths of the Anti-Smoking Movement These"Ten Myths of the Anti-Smoking Movement" appear as an appendix in For Your Own Good. 1. The tobacco companies hid the truth about the hazards and addictiveness of cigarettes from the American public. Industry double-talk notwithstanding, warnings about the health risks of smoking go back hundreds of years . James I, in his 1604 Counterblaste to Tobacco, called smoking "a custome lothsome to the eye, hatefull to the Nose, harmefull to the braine, dangerous to the Lungs." In every generation, tobaccos opponents have echoed him, attributing a long list of maladies to smoking. (See Chapter 1.) Persuasive scientific evidence of tobaccos hazards, which began to emerge in the early 1930s, has received widespread attention since the 50s. (See C hapter 2.) Likewise, the difficulty of giving up the tobacco habit has been common knowledge for centuries. James Is lord chancellor, Sir Francis Bacon, observed, "In our times the use of tobacco is growing greatly and conquers men with a certain secret pleasure, so that those who have once become accustomed thereto can later hardly be restrained therefrom." The 17th-century polemicist Johann Michael Moscherosch called smokers "thralls to the tobacco fiend," while Cotton Mather dubbed them "Slave[s] to the Pipe." Fagon, Louis XIVs court physician, described the tobacco habit as "a fatal, insatiable necessity a permanent epilepsy." (See Chapter 7.) 2. "Tobacco is tobacco." Although all tobacco products pose some health risks, cigarettes are by far the most hazardous. Cigars and pipes are considerably less dangerous. Research by the American Cancer Society found that "[d]eath rates were far higher in cigarette smokers than in nonsmokers," while "[c]igar smokers had somewhat higher death rates than nonsmokers," and "there was little difference between the death rates of pipe smokers and the death rates of men who never smoked regularly." By one estimate, smokeless tobacco is 98 percent safer than cigarettes. (See Chapter 2.) 3. People smoke because of advertising. There is remarkably little evidence that advertising plays an important role in getting people to smoke, as opposed to getting them to smoke a particular brand. The 1989 surgeon generals report conceded that "[t]here is no scientifically rigorous study available to the public that provides a definitive answer to the basic question of whether advertising and promotion increase the level of tobacco consumption. Given the complexity of the issue, none is likely to be forthcoming in the forseeable future." The 1994 report, which focused on underage smoking, also acknowledged the "lack of definitive literature." None of the widely publicized studies that have appeared in recent years, including the much-hyped research on Joe Camel, actually measured the impact of advertising on a teenagers propensity to smoke. (See Chapter 3.) 4. Smoking imposes costs on society. Because smokers tend to die earlier than nonsmokers, the short-term costs of treating tobacco- related illness are balanced, and probably outweighed, by savings on Social Security, nursing home stays, and medical care in old age. Every analysis that takes such long-term savings into account, including reports from the RAND Corporation, the Congressional Research Service, and Harvard economist W. Kip Viscusi, concludes that "social cost" cannot justify raising cigarette taxes. (See Chapter 4.) 5. Secondhand smoke poses a grave threat to bystanders. The evidence concerning the health effects of secondhand smoke is not nearly as conclusive as the evidence concerning the health effects of smoking. The research suggests that people who live with smokers for decades may face a slightly higher risk of lung cancer. According to one estimate, a nonsmoking woman who lives with a smoker faces an additional lung cancer risk of 6.5 in 10,000, which would raise her lifetime risk from about 0.34 percent to about 0.41 percent. Studies of secondhand smoke and heart disease, including the results from the Harvard Nurses Study published in 1997, report more-dramatic increases in disease ratesso dramatic, in fact, that they are biologically implausible, suggesting risks comparable to those faced by smokers, despite the much lower doses involved. In any case, there is no evidence that casual exposure to secondhand smoke has any impact on your life expectancy. (See Chapter 5.) 6. If secondhand smoke really is dangerous, smoking ought to be banned everywhere, except in private residences. Since almost all of the epidemiological evidence about the health effects of secondhand smoke relates to long-term exposure in the home, the fact that this is the one place exempted from current and proposed smoking bans suggests a residual concern for property rights. Yet business owners
[CTRL] MAI Mk II
-Caveat Lector- From www.monde-diplomatique.fr/en/ LE MONDE DIPLOMATIQUE - May 1999 TRANSATLANTIC WHEELING AND DEALING Watch out for MAI Mark Two Sheltered from the hubbub of war and crisis, Europe, the United States and the World Trade Organisation (WTO) are devising agreements that will remove the final obstacles to the free play of "market forces" and require co untries to submit to the unfettered expansion of the multinationals. Learning from the failure of the Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI), big business and technocrats are trying to force through a decision before the end of 1999. by CHRISTIAN DE BRIE * The corpse of the Multilateral Agreement on Investment (MAI) hardly had time to get cold in the vaults of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) (1) before the ultra-liberal Dr Jekylls led by Sir Leon Brittan, the outgoing European Commission vice-president and Thatcherite die-hard, have tried to clone it, excitedly hoping to see new Draculas emerge from their test tubes by the year 2000. This urgent work is being carried out in two secret laboratories with "keep out" signs to deter anyone not wearing a lab coat: the Transatlantic Economic Partnership (TEP) and the Millennium Round of the World Trade Organ isation. The first of these, which opened on 16 September 1998, is dedicated (though it will not admit it) to that favourite project of the British and the Americans - seeing the European Union dissolved in a free trade area with the United States. Following the failure of the first attempt in 1994, a rehashed version presented by the European Commission on 11 March 1998 under the name NTM (New Transatlantic Marketplace) was thrown out by the fore ign ministers of the Fifteen on 27 April. As he had done before, Brittan went back to his drawing board (without seeking a mandate) to come up with a disguised version of his pet scheme. If the 27 pages of the Commission recommendation on the negotiation of agree ments in the field of technical barriers to trade between the EU and the US (2) are anything to go by, the outcome promises to be instructive. (An abbreviated version was approved by the Council, empowering it to negotiat e on behalf of the member states, then by the European parliament in September and November 1998). On the pretext of removing "technical barriers to trade", which include health, social and environmental protection regulations, the ultimate aim is to "reach a general commitment to unconditional access to the market in all sectors and for all methods of supply" of products and services, including health, education and public contracts. In the inimitable jargon of the Commission, states and local authorities are required to make all dero gations explicit in the form of "a negative freedom" given that the agreements negotiated apply to all the territory of the parties, regardless of their constitutional structures, at all levels of authority. This is very restrictive for the local authorities of the European countries, but of little risk to the US, where the federal states are not bound by Washington's signature in the matter. The aim is gradually to draw up common minimum regulations "based on the recommendations of enterprises" in order to "create new outlets" for them - all this in "a spirit of conviviality". Involved in the TEP talks from t he outset, the multinationals have greatly influenced the content thanks to a powerful lobby that has been institutionalised for four years: the Transatlantic Business Dialogue (TABD) bringing together the upper crust of big business on both sides of the North Atlantic. Its last two-yearly meeting took place in Charlotte (North Carolina) in November 1998. Big business to call the tune In order to allay suspicion, they are trying to rush through the establishment of a Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue, a Transatlantic Labour Dialogue and a Transatlantic Environment Dialogue for consumers, trade unions and ecologists respectively, who will have to stay firmly within the bounds set by big business in the TABD. The latter has no intention of giving anything more than a half-hearted commitment to optional codes of conduct wit h no sanctions attached. Thus "hemmed in", talks proceed behind closed doors, using salami tactics to avoid alerting public opinion, so that everything can be sewn up by December 1999. Industrial goods, services, public contracts, intellectual pr operty, etc. - in a dozen fields, slice by slice, "mutual recognition agreements" (MRA), apparently technical but in fact political, seek to reduce standards and regulations to the lowest common denominator. The outcome i s that the safeguards that Europe has built up, in food, the environment and health in particular, are
[CTRL] Fwd: VOMIT 20/99
This Group needs all the support it can get; it also has taken on the corrupt Masons and the Corrupt Tony Blain, Clinton's flunkee. The English are about to commence their geonocide of biblical proportion, and uses the Rhodes Scholar, Oxford Flunkee, Clinton - who was an informer for the CIA on his classmates, while he draft doged the war and our brothers and sons died in Viet Nam for nothing other than to make more money for the hoodlems manufacturing munitions and little camoflagued suits Want to know what all the coffins were for they ordered..well, recently the more important people were being spirited out of the country.I imagine like Dracula, and Albright, they have all come home to roose while Serbia burns. If you have any bad stuff on the Masons, forward to me.MNASON = diligent seeker of TRUTH..not lies. Colleen Colleen, You are incorrigible but human. Best wishes. VOMIT UK 20/99 Victims Of Masonic Ill-Treatment 15 May 1999 Anyone criticised or maligned in these publications has a guaranteed right of reply. JMF or P2 Lodge UK stands for the hierarchies of the Judaeo/Masonic Faction. The ordinary Mason and Jew are as likely to suffer from the machinations of the JMF as non-Masons and non-Jews are. THE MASONS HAVE BEEN ORDERED NOT TO CHALLENGE THE FACTS PUBLISHED IN VOMIT.THE DIRTY BRIGADE HAS NEVER CHALLENGED THE FACTS. IT HAS GOT RID OF ITS VITRIOLIC BILE BY SNIPING AT THE MESSENGER. DEMON INTERNET LIMITED HAS ASSISTED THE MASONS. Demon should concentrate on making its equipment reliable and stop running up huge telephone bills for subscribers. THE SHIRTLIFTERS ### Well spoken Vomit! Much as I despise and detest the human dung beetles who practice the "love" that dared not speak its name but now shouts it from the rooftops, the bombing in Shaftesbury Avenue was a diabolical act. Even faggots have a right to life. What I object to is their double standards. They shove their poison down our throats and then call us bigots for showing revulsion to their perversions. As to Mr Willmott's suggestion that we bomb Downing Street, he glibly attributes all the evils of the world to the machinations of politicians. Politicians are under pressure from minority groups. This results in bad legislation driven by minority groups who push for censorship, homosexuality, big business and even religious privilege. Although I am opposed to the bombing of Serbia I'm not the one who has to make the decisions. Obviously something has to be done to stop this ethnic cleansing, and just as obviously Blair and company will be attacked whatever they do or don't do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ### Comment: Who has heard of dung beetles cottaging, cruising, rimming or pushing dung uphill? We feel that dung beetles would take umbrage at the comparison between the useful work they do and what the shirtlifters do. Blair is carried away by his delusions of grandeur. He should have resolved the Irish problem before tackling a similar problem in Kosovo. America like Britain depends upon its armaments industry to sustain a viable economy.Stockpiled weaponry does not generate jobs or profits. There has to be war. The Windbag is not dictated to by pressure groups but by suction groups. His focus groups look for votes and then offer incentives to minority groups with a fine disregard for morality or democracy. The Windbag is a control freak.One of his focus groups suggested that monkeys should be put on the electoral register and then selected as parliamentary candidates.They argued that, like Labour MPs, they would see all, hear all and say nowt and thereby avoid the possibility of another Dennis Canavan rubbing the Windbag's nose in the dirt. MOHAMED AL FAYED This is yet another own goal by Blair and Straw who probably acted on the advice of the Cardinal. When Mr Al Fayed appeared on a TV programme after having been denied UK citizenship he was greeted by thunderous applause and kissed by a bevy of pretty girls. We suggest that the low turnout at the recent elections confirmed what the people have to say about New Labour: "They are worse than the Tories". There is some merit in Mr Al Fayed's allegation that the death of his son Dodi and Princess Diana was no accident. The last we heard of the enquiry was that the French magistrate was seeking to extradite members of the UK security services. Since then there has been silence. The politicians are upset because Mr Al Fayed confirmed what the Right Honourable Alan Clark said about M Ps. 'They are only in it for the money.'They should express their anger against Tim Smith, the former M P, who admitted accepting money from Mr Al Fayed. He undermined the defences of the guilty M Ps. We do not see any difference between the M Ps accepting money and that other bag of wind, John Prescott, accepting the gift of a Jaguar car.Had Mr
Re: [CTRL] [wethepeople] Was George Washington a Christian?
-Caveat Lector- Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: Was George Washington a Christian? MJ: In a word, No. from Franklin Steiner's The Religious Beliefs of Our President's 19 Every public man, every office holder and politician realizes that organized religion, socially, politically and economically, is a factor to be recognized and dealt with. Washington, not only as Commander-in-Chief, but more so as President, was obliged to have the united support of all the people, regardless of his individual views. He was careful to warn all these Churches against the great vice of the world, religious bigotry, intolerance and persecution. Because a motive is inspired by religion, it may not always be right, but religion is a powerful motive, right or wrong. Washington, in all these addresses, had in mind that religious controversy and dissension breed discord. At the same time, he realized that to secure independence and erect the new government, the cooperation of the Churches and the ministers was essential. He wanted their support, and to have their enmity would have been unfortunate. There have been few Clemenceaus, Bradlaughs, Berts and Gambettas in public life who openly opposed the Church. These did so under extraordinary circumstances. Had Washington been as firm an Agnostic as Ingersoll, it would have been to his advantage to remain silent on the subject. He is careful to refer to religion in general, not to any particular belief or Church. He says nice things to them all, but commits himself to none. His use of the word "Christian" at times means nothing definite. Christianity might mean Roman Catholicism or Unitarianism, or "mere morality," just as its user prefers. Of course every man must give special homage to the religion of the country in which he lives. In the "Farewell Address," he often refers to "religion morality." This might mean any religion, and the, other excerpts confirm us in thinking that he meant all religions and none in particular. Thousands of men today hold that religious institutions should be upheld because of the prop they give to morality. They support Church for that reason, while they are indifferent to its theological teaching. They believe, as did Draper: "The tranquility of society depends so much on the stability of its religious convictions, that no one can be justified in wantonly disturbing them." They think religion is necessary for other people, while not needed by themselves. It will also be noticed that Washington, while he sometimes couples morality and religion, stresses the former, and ends by saying that "virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government." Among the addresses sent to Washington when he became President was one from the First Presbytery of the Eastward, which objected to the new Constitution because it did not recognize God and the Christian religion, in these words: "We should not have been alone in rejoicing to have seen some explicit acknowledgement of the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath sent, inserted somewhere in the Magna Charta of our country." To this, Washington replied: "The path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. ... In the progress of morality and science, to which our government will give every furtherance, we may confidently expect the advancement of true religion and the completion of our happiness." Here, as on similar occasions he is too canny to say what "true piety" is. His statement that "true piety" will be advanced through the "progress of morality and science," would place him at the present day in the ranks of Rationalism. Washington knew, at the same time, as did Madison, that religion, legally united with the state, is no aid either to "virtue or morality." For that reason he said, in the treaty with Tripoli, made in 1796, and, ratified by the Senate in 1797: "The Government of the United states of America is not, in any sense, founded upon the Christian religion." He was too shrewd to oppose the orthodoxy of his time, and equally shrewd in not committing himself to its teachings. Socially, he conformed to the religious customs of his day, just enough to maintain the good will of religious people. What Was Washington's Belief? It is said that some one asked of Lord Beaconsfield his religion. He replied, "The religion of wise men." Thereupon, his interlocutor again ask, "What religion is that," and my Lord answered, Wise men never tell." Washington was a wise man and never told. In classifying these Presidents, placing them in one Church or another, whenever they actually were believers in the doctrines of that Church, I have had no difficulty in securing indubitable evidence, except in the case
Re: [CTRL] [wethepeople] The Bible and our Constitution
-Caveat Lector- Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: "Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian." - United States Supreme Court, 1892. MJ: Unfortunately, the analysis of the case that accompanies it amounts to little more than a manipulation of the language of the opinion to distort the actual meaning of the case, its relevant facts and its stated rule of law. The facts of Holy Trinity concerned the application of an Act of Congress titled "An act to prohibit the importation and migration of foreigners and aliens under contract or agreement to perform labor in the Unites States, its Territories and the District of Columbia." Holy Trinity Church, a church located in the city of New York, contracted with a minister in England to perform services as rector and pastor at its church. At issue in the case was whether or not the church's action violated the Act which prohibited "any person, company, partnership, or corporation ... to assist or encourage the importation or migration of any alien ... under contract or agreement ... to perform labor or service of any kind in the United States." The holding of Holy Trinity was based on an interpretation of the purpose of the Act. The Court concluded that the purpose of the Act was to prohibit the importation of foreign unskilled persons to perform manual labor and manual services. A christian minister, the Court reasoned, is a 'toiler of the brain', not a manual laborer; Holy Trinity Church, therefore, was found not to have violated the Act when it secured a contract for the holy man's employment. The Court says the title of the Act implies its meaning, that only the importation of 'laborers' will be restricted. The Court then turns to the legislative history, debates, and comments of the Congressmen involved in drafting the Act to conclude that the Act was designed to regulate the domestic unskilled, labor market. Whether or not America was a Christian Nation was not even at issue in Holy Trinity. The actual dispute or controversy the Court had to decide had nothing at all to do with religion. The parties in Holy Trinity did not question whether the Immigration Act's purpose was 'for or against religion' generally or specifically. Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: While making certain not to endorse any denomination of religion over another, the founders of this nation made it emphatically clear that the principles upon which this Nation was built are based squarely upon the Bible. Virtually every one of the 55 writers and signers of the United States Constitution were members of various Christian denominations: 29 were Anglicans, 16 to 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 lapsed Quaker and sometimes Anglican, and 1 open deist--Dr. Franklin who attended every kind of Christian worship, called for public prayer, and contributed to all denominations. Any authority to support this assertion? Indeed, the weight of scholarly opinion is to the contrary. For example, Professor Clinton Rossiter has written: Although is had its share of strenuous Christians... the gathering at Philadelphia was largely made up of men in whom the old fires were under control or had even flickered out. Most were nominally members of one of the traditional churches in their part of the country.. and most were men who could take their religion or leave it alone. Although no one in this sober gathering would have dreamed of invoking the Goddess of Reason, neither would anyone have dared to proclaim his opinions had the support of the God of Abraham and Paul. The Convention of 1787 was highly rationalist and even secular in spirit. (Clinton Rossiter, 1787; The Grand Convention, pp. 147-148.) Much has also been made of Benjamin Franklin's suggestion that the Convention open its morning sessions with prayer. His motion was turned down, however, and not again taken up. Franklin himself noted that "with the exception of 3 or 4, most thought prayers unnecessary." (Ferrand, Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, rev. ed., Vol. 1, p.452.) Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: George Mason is called the father of the Bill of Rights, for he insisted that the first ten amendments be added to the Constitution. The purpose for such an addition? "The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth," Mason said. MJ: You confuse God with Christianity. snip much Mike Kathy Moxley wrote: We the members of the U.S. Taxpayers Party gratefully acknowledge the blessing of the Lord God as Creator, Preserver and Ruler of the Universe and of this Nation...
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-Caveat Lector- Could someone please post the URL of the site that has the list of all of Clinton's associates who have died under mysterious circumstances? Thanks in advance, Joe DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Secretary of State Madeleine bonded at Bohemia Grove?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.arc.org.tw/USIA/www.usia.gov/regional/ea/easec/alb724.htm A HREF="http://www.arc.org.tw/USIA/www.usia.gov/regional/ea/easec/alb724.htm"US IA: The U.S. Commitment to Security in the A /A - Was she there in drag? Picture . . .or does she write a good joke? Om K - Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright Address to the International Diplomacy Council San Francisco, California, July 24, 1998 As released by the Office of the Spokesman U.S. Department of State [As Delivered] AMBASSADOR ROSENTHAL: Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jim Rosenthal, the President of the Board of the International Diplomacy Council. And on behalf of the Council, it's my great pleasure to welcome you to this very important meeting today. The International Diplomacy Council has been involved in citizen diplomacy for more than 45 years here in San Francisco, helping host nearly 100,000 international visitors participating in the U.S. Government's highly esteemed International Visitor's Program. In this way, the International Diplomacy Council has made a significant contribution to the success of American diplomacy over the years. So, it is a particularly great honor and pleasure for us to be able to welcome here today our country's top diplomat, and our boss so to speak, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. Secretary Albright will be taking questions after her remarks, so I wanted to tell you in advance that there are microphones on either side of the auditorium. Please line up behind those microphones if you wish to ask a question of the Secretary. To those of you who are not members of IDC, but would like to participate in such citizen diplomacy, I invite you to join today. The International Diplomacy Council is a major asset to our Bay Area Community, helping international visitors know and appreciate our great region and establishing invaluable contacts for our citizens in all fields: in business, in academia, in all kinds of cultural, social and environmental fields, for example. So we are greatly honored and pleased today to have with us the distinguished leader of our San Francisco community, Mayor Willie Brown. Mayor Brown will welcome and introduce our distinguished speaker. Mr. Mayor. (Applause.) MAYOR BROWN: Mr. Rosenthal, thank you very much for that kind introduction. Let me extend a San Francisco welcome to the Secretary of State. I believe that this is my first opportunity ever to introduce her. From the years of her activities with the Carter Administration, through the National Policy Center, Georgetown University, Madeleine Korbel Albright was always one of the persons whose voices was heard. I sometimes say to people, when they say "Why did you say that?": Secretary Albright would have seen it this way, she would have said it as well. She's always been very outspoken, very direct. (Laughter.) So unlike typical diplomats, but nevertheless, just as effective. As the 64th Secretary of State of these United States, the first female ever and the single highest-ranking female in our government, it is with a great degree of honor, pride and pleasure that on behalf of all the citizens of San Francisco I welcome Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. (Applause.) SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Thank you very much Mr. Mayor, Ambassador Rosenthal, Charlotte Shultz, members of the diplomatic community, distinguished guests and friends. I am delighted to be back here in San Francisco. And I want to thank all of you for coming, especially those who passed up the opportunity to bond in Bohemia Grove. snip - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Tales of a government sex slave...
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.interalpha.co.uk/users/pvigay/truth/did.html A HREF="http://www.interalpha.co.uk/users/pvigay/truth/did.html"Tales of a government sex slave... /A - Tales of a government sex slave... This article is taken from the David Icke Newsletter (issue 4) and is excerpts from the book "Trance Formation of America" by Cathy O'Brien and Mark Phillips. Cathy O'Brien spent nearly 30 years as a mind-controlled sex slave of the United States Government. She is the only one so far to both have survived with her life and been deprogrammed successfully enough for her to remember all that happened. I tell her story at some length in my new book, I Am Me, I Am Free, and you can also read her own book, Trance Formation of America, written with Mark Phillips. I have rarely met a more balanced and loving person than Cathy O'Brien and that is astonishing when you consider what she has had to endure at the hands of some of the world's most famous people. Cathleen Ann O'Brien was born in 1957 in Muskegon, Michigan. Her father Earl O'Brien, is a paedophile who used her and her brothers in the pornographic movies he produced for the Michigan Mafia. Among this mafia was the pornographer called Gerald Ford, better known later as the Vice President and then President of the United States. Ford would twice rape Cathy, first when she was a child and then as a young woman when he was President and she was a mind-controlled slave of the US Government. Cathy's father was later set up by Ford. A pornographic movie which Earl O'Brien sent through the post was intercepted and Ford arrived at their house to give him an ultimatum: hand over your daughter to the mind-control operation known as Project Monarch, or face prosecution. Earl O'Brien was delighted with the deal because giving Cathy to the government also allowed him freedom from any further prosecution. Project Monarch was an offshoot of the CIA's notorious, MKUltra, which I have detailed in my last two books. They chose Cathy because they knew that children who come from families with a history of intergenerational child sexual abuse, are more open to the system of programming they had in mind for her. The method is called Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD) or, more accurately, Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). It breaks up the mind into isolated compartments which are unaware of each other. These are created by constant trauma from a very early age - sexual abuse, violence, torture, overwork, food and water deprivation and a stream of others. The mind then shuts out these horrors from its conscious level by compartmentalising the memory of it. This is why people involved in terrible road accidents can never remember the actual impact or its immediate aftermath. The mind shuts is away. In the trauma-based mind-control of Project Monarch, these compartments are used to programme different "personalities" which can be used by the Elite of the New World Order. A trigger word, sentence, sound or action, opens these different compartments in turn as they become the person's "personality" until another one is activated. Each compartment has no idea that the others exist and so these mind-slaves have no memory of what they do in their various modes. Some of these mind-controlled zombies are used to assassinate people which is why you hear so often that the assassin was a "lone nutter" - therefore no conspiracy. I am convinced from the evidence I have seen that Thomas Hamilton, the Dunblane killer, was one of these, as was martin Mryant who went crazy with a gun in Tasmania shortly after the Dunblane tragedy. Why would the Elite do this? For many reasons. Among them to increase the number of cameras and security staff in schools to ensure that children are brought up in the culture of being protected from danger by big brother state; to create enormous fear, hence control; to traumatize the collective mind because a traumatized mind is much more open to suggestion; to disarm the population through gun laws, so making the final takeover much easier. No-one wants to see the end of weapons more than me, but we surely need to ask about the motivation of those who wish to manipulate gun laws into place in this horrific manner. Before Adolf Hitler began herding people into concentration camps, he introduced gun laws to disarm them. Mind-controlled slaves of world governments are used to pass messages outside of the official channels. One of the by-products of Dissociative Identity Disorder is a photographic memory and so they can recall their programmed messages much like an audio tape. They are also used to carry drugs for world leaders like George Bush and Bill Clinton who are heavily involved in the trafficking of drugs. Cathy O'Brien was used as a sex slave to pander to the bizarre sexual desires of big name politicians and to compromise other world leaders. They can then be blackmailed to go along with the demands of the Global Elite for fear of
[CTRL] THE TEMPLE OF THE SCREAMING ELECTRON
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.totse.com/ A HREF="http://www.totse.com/"TOTSE - Home Page/A - THE TEMPLE OF THE SCREAMING ELECTRON A lot of people have some weird idea that this web site is a Bad Place, a place for hackers, software pirates, and anarchists. The reason that they think this is that there are informational text files on here about hacking, piracy, and anarchy. However, there are also text files on here that discuss politics; democratic, right wing, left wing, libertarian, communist, and everything in between, but this is not a political web site. There are files on here that discuss Jesus Christ, Muhammed, Buddha, Crowley, John Smith, and "Bob", but this is not a religious web site. There are files full of short stories, science fiction, humorous articles, and great works of literature, but this is not a literary web site. There are files with information on rocketry, radio broadcasting, chemistry, electronics, genetics, and computers, but this is not a technical web site. This web site is about INFORMATION. All sorts and all viewpoints. Some of the information you will agree with, some you will find shocking, and some you will probably disagree with violently. That is the whole point. In this society we go to schools where there is one right answer: The Teacher's. There is one acceptable version of events: The Television's. There is only one acceptable occupation: The pursuit of money. There is only one political choice to make: Republicrats (Or Demopublicans, if you prefer.) On this web site you are expected to make decisions all by yourself. You get to decide who and what to agree with, and why. You get to hear new viewpoints that you may have never heard before. On this web site people exist without age, without skin color, without gender, without clothes, without nationality, without any of the visual cues we usually use to discredit or ignore people who are unlike ourselves. All of these things are stripped away and the ideas themselves are laid bare. You will change. You will transform. You will learn. You will disagree. You will enjoy it. What the Buttons Do Things to Read - Essential reading for TOTSE affcianados. Things to Know - TOTSE's vast library of weird and wonderful information. Things to Do - Links to Other Sites. Erotica - TOTSE's HUGE collection of erotic fiction. Software - TOTSE's Collection of Downloadable Software. Current News of the Temple 1.I've had quite a number of submissions of erotic stories, interesting news items, and how-tos. I have been re-writing my HTML generation software, and consequently, all of these great stories have been sitting on my hard drive, unposted. I will post them as soon as I get the kinks worked out of the new software -- I promise! Thanks for all that's been sent, I really do appreciate it. 2.The old NIRVANAnet(tm) "NNSTUFF" message echo is now available via e-mail. To sign up, go to the NIRVANAnet(tm) web site and click on NNSTUFF. 3.I have turned off the old dial-up BBS system. I needed the equipment for my web servers, and the money that the dial-up lines cost me can be better spent on connectivity for the web site. 4.Although Pac Bell is offering cheap DSL lines, I've having a hell of a time trying to get them to come out and actually install one. Oh well, my ISP is offering me a great deal on a server in a rack co-located at Mae West. That may be a better way to go than having my own server. I'm still mulling over the possibilities. 5.The software file section is still a "work in progress". 6.I have added a search engine so you can search this entire site for whatever it is you're looking for. | TOTSE | Read | Know | Do | Erotica | Software | NIRVANAnet(tm) | | Search | Feedback | Submissions | Donations | Link To Us | Copyright Policy | TOTSE has served up 32625776 pages since 03/13/98 at 12:00pm PST Counter for THIS PAGE ONLY (below) started on 02/06/98 at 12:00pm PST SPAMtrap -- Eat these addresses, SPAM Spiders! FCC Chair: Reed Hundt, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Members: James Quello, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Susan Ness, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rachelle Chong, [EMAIL PROTECTED]; $USER@localhost, $USER@$HOST, -h1024@localhost, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FTC [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web Poison This page, the site layout, page layout, and all original artwork on this site are Copyright © 1998 TOTSE. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be,
[CTRL] (Fwd) Inside the KLA
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Begin excerpt Foreign Affairs May/Junel 1999 (volume 78, number 3) Kosovo's Next Masters By Chris Hedges INSIDE THE KOSOVO LIBERATION ARMY The rumbles of yet another nationalist earthquake are shaking the former Yugoslavia. Rising from the fetid hovels of Pristina and the concrete-block family farms of rural Kosovo is the newest political and military force to beset the Balkans -- the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), known to Albanians as the Ushtria Clirimtare e Kosoves. The emergence of this militant armed group, now numbering several thousand fighters, has dimmed hopes that even a compromise agreement with Belgrade could be successfully implemented. Emboldened by NATO's March bombing of the Serbian military, the KLA will wage a protracted guerrilla war in the Serbian province that could ignite a wider war in neighboring Macedonia and Albania, potentially even dragging in Greece and Bulgaria. The KLA is uncompromising in its quest for an independent Kosovo now and a Greater Albania later. And it has, to the consternation of Washington's would-be peacemakers, supplanted the ineffectual leadership of the moderate voice of Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority, Ibrahim Rugova. The KLA is important out of all proportion to its size -- not merely because it will probably eventually get Kosovo to secede from Serbia, but because it now represents the aspirations of most Kosovar Albanians. To unders tand the current conflict in Kosovo and America's stakes in its resolution, one must understand the KLA, how it came into being, who leads it, what drives it, and why it now speaks for a majority of Kosovars. Even a truly vicious, Bosnia-like wave of atrocities by the Serbs in reprisal for NATO's attacks will only pour fuel on the separatist fire. The grim reality is that we had better get to know the KLA -- because it is not going to go away. break In Kosovo, the stationing of international troops may prevent all-out fighting and provide the breathing space to negotiate a workable solution. But given the deep rifts between the sides, the latter is hardly likely. The international community would then face the stark choice between remaining in Kosovo for a long time or pulling out after the proposed three-year period, with the likelihood that those on both sides of the divide would again pick up their guns. In the end, it will come to this: Led by the KLA, Kosovo will separate from Serbia, whether by negotiations or by violence. Chris Hedges, currently a Nieman Fellow at Harvard University, was The New York Times' Balkan Bureau Chief from 1995 to 1998. End excerpt -- Copyright 1999 by the Council on Foreign Relations, Inc. All rights reserved. From Janes Defence Wkly defence.janes.com/ BALKAN ENDGAME? Begin excerpt PictureFollowing devastating airstrikes in Yugoslavia, what are the options for an acceptable settlement on the ground? Richard Bassett examines the prospects for the future and the lessons of the past In the wake of NATO's attack on Yugoslavia the Balkans ends the century much as it began; an expression of great power rivalry and a source of potentially destabilising conflict. As at least one military historian of note, John Keegan, has written, the problems of Bosnia, Macedonia and indeed Kosovo would be wearily familiar to any official of the Austro-Hungarian empire posted to Sarajevo in 1908. The inevitable competing spheres of influence led the great 19th-century German Chancellor, Bismarck, to observe: "The Balkans are not worth the bones of a Pomeranian Grenadier." If history is one of the inescapable millstones of the Balkans, geography is another. Albania today still lies across two of the most important routes that link Europe with the East. Its appearance on the global stage, in 1912 at the Ambassador's conference, when it was described as the "child of Austria, with Italy acting as midwife" was an attempt to balance the pretensions of Russia's main protegé in the region, Serbia, and limit its access to the Mediterranean. --- break --- The precarious internal situation in Russia also militates against the confidence-building measures the West feels are essential to any joint solution of the Balkans crisis. The obvious policy disputes between Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Primakov may be just questions of degree but they continue to overshadow the ability to come to agreements at the highest level which can be seen as having a chance of sticking. Yet without such an agreement there is every indication that the Balkans will continue to smoulder and that the flames of ethnic cleansing will continue to blaze for several years to come. End excerpt Richard Bassett, JDW's Business Editor, is a former Central Europe correspondent for the Times of London Jane's Defence Weekly Jane's Defence Weekly can be bought online from this
[CTRL] BOHEMIAN GROVE OTHER RETREATS
-Caveat Lector- Anybody have this book? Is it any good? Om K - BOHEMIAN GROVE OTHER RETREATS: A Study in Ruling-Class Cohesiveness. Domhoff, G. Condition: G+/G+ 1st Edition Hardbound loose binding, foxing at sides, DJ scuffed, slightly soiled, ruffling at top/bottom, spine discolored "In this fascinating and wryly funny book, the author shows the extent of the interlocking power and the further intricate connections between the very rich." Format: Hardcover / First Edition / Dust Jacket Associated Dealer: Sunset Bookstore San Francisco, Ca Bohemian Grove, The and Other Retreats. A Study in Ruling-Class Cohesiveness DOMHOFF, G. WILLIAM Condition: Almost fine copy in an almost fine dust jacket. Small stain on the upper portion of the rear cover of the book. Imagine an annual gathering of rich, white, mostly elderly men, the wealthiest and most influential in the country. One, set in 2700 acre Format: Hardcover / First Edition / Dust Jacket Copyright, Disclaimer, and Community Standards Copyright 1997, 1998, 1999 barnesandnoble.com llc - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-81, Day 55, Update 1 (May 17; 0:15AM EDT) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on NATO's
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. We invite you to visit our Photo Album section (http://www.truthinmedia.org/Kosovo/tim-stmt.html + click on "Photo Album" hyperlink) which has just been updated with many new and dramatic photos of NATO's war on Serbia. Issue S99-81, Day 55, Update 1 --- May 17, 1999; 0:15AM EDT HEADLINES Washington 1. Flying Coffins? Apache Helicopters on Hold; Gen. Clark Impatient to Kill More Troops New York 2. "Albright at War: Madeleine's War" (Time Magazine); Regime Change at Home Also Needed (Her Mentor) Douglas 3. "Mexico's Kosovo:" Illegal Immigrants Flood Arizona Phoenix 4. Popova's Historical Essay Criticized by Some Russian-Americans 1. Flying Coffins? Apache Helicopters on Hold; Gen. Clark Impatient to Kill More Troops BRUSSELS, May 16 - NATO leaflets dropped into Kosovo warn Serbian troops, "Don't Wait For Me," showing a picture of an Apache helicopter swooping down on a tank. As it turns out, it could be a long wait. For, the Pentagon brass, fearing the Apaches may end up as flying coffins, are getting cold feet about using them against the tough Serb air defenses. In a behind-the-scenes struggle over military strategy and tactics, the Pentagon is blocking a plan by the NATO commander, Gen. Wesley Kanne Clark, to send Apache helicopters into combat against Serbian troops, the New York Times reported today (May 16). So Clark's impatience to waste American lives, not just those of Serb civilians, is yet another proof that he deserves a front row seat at an upcoming war crimes trial. Seeking to increase NATO's firepower, Clark has pressed the Pentagon to authorize "live fire" tests by shooting at targets in Kosovo. But he still has not received permission to do so, as Pentagon has balked, fearing that the mission is too risky. Two of the helicopters have already crashed during training missions, killing two pilots. The dispute adds a new strain to the alliance's seven-week-old air campaign. "The issue is that Clark is being aggressive, and there is some resistance to doing what he wants to do," a senior American official told the New York Times. It took weeks for Washington to agree to General Clark's request to deploy the Apaches. Then it took weeks more to lug the men and supplies for the helicopters and the Army units that accompanied them to Albania. Further, Washington only agreed to send the Apaches and rockets on the condition that they not be used in combat without the formal approval of President Clinton. That approval, which Apache commanders expected by early May, has yet to take place, largely because top Pentagon officials have refused to recommend such a step to the White House, fearing the possible domestic and international consequences if the missions fail. The Apache squadron is commanded by Brig. Gen. Richard A. Cody, one of the Army's most respected helicopter officers, whose Apaches blasted two clusters of Iraqi early-warning radars during the Gulf War, firing Hellfire missiles and 30-millimeter guns. But the mission in Kosovo is far more complex and dangerous, the New York Times warns. Serbian troops are armed with SA-7 shoulder-fired missiles, antiaircraft artillery, and SAM surface-to-air missiles - all of which pose a major threat to helicopters. Pentagon's fears seem to have merit. General Tus (a Croat), who was also a general in the former Yugoslavia's Army (JNA), was interviewed the other day on Croatian TV. A lady reporter asked him what he thought would happen when the Apaches are deployed against the Serb forced in Kosovo. The real question isn't what would happen, General Tus replied, but how many of the 24 Apaches would return to base. General's answer evidently stunned the reporter, who stuttered as she prompted him to answer his own question. "Well, not more than two," the general replied. By now, the reporter, totally thrown off balance, proceeded to recite the high costs and the technological advancements which are supposedly built into the Apaches. This seemed to anger the general, who snapped back: "After a second thought, I don't believe that even those two would return to base." The Pentagon brass expressed similar fears. "The Army's concern is that this is a very dangerous mission," a Pentagon official told the New York Times. "The avenues into Kosovo are limited, and the opportunity for shoulder-held weapons is very real. We have to really have all our act together. No one thinks the mission can't be done, but in an age when the American
[CTRL] Real Sports
-Caveat Lector- From Independent (UK) War in the Balkans - Kosovars suffer new ethnic hatred By Phil Davison in Blace Azemi Elias thought the insults of Serb border police were the last he would have to endure. A 32-year-old Kosovar Albanian car mechanic, he had crossed into Macedonia with his wife and children, was nibbling on some cheese in the border refugee camp in Blace and was glad to be alive. He had reckoned without the Macedonian police. "Your papers!" shouted a police colonel who later refused to give me his name but is known as Miki. Azemi's two sons, Buyar, five, and Behan, three, cowered on the blanket where they were eating their first decent food in days. They had heard that demand so many times on their long trek to the border from their home in the Kosovo village of Laskovari. They had also cowered in beneath the floorboards of their house when Serbian paramilitary troops shot out their windows and robbed their parents of everything they had. "But I just gave them to you coming in, officer," said Azemi. "Show them again!" insisted the colonel. Azemi did. "And watch what you're saying to that reporter!" barked the colonel, fingering the Serb-made CZ-99 pistol i n his holster. Azemi had just told me that Serb police and paramilitary troops were forcing Kosovar Albanian men to live on sites - including schoolyards and hospital grounds - where they were hiding tanks, field guns and ammunition. A short while later "Miki" and another officer hauled me off to the camp gates to check my identity. Kosovar Albanians find no welcome in Blace. Their Macedonian neighbours, except for the ethnic Albanian minority, leave them in no doubt that they are unwanted. Historic tension between the majority Slavs and the ethnic A lbanian Macedonians and the Kosovar Albanians is running higher than ever. There is talk of yet another civil war in the former Yugoslavia, regardless of what happens in Kosovo. Slav Macedonians say their country's ethnic Albanians are well-armed. That did not worry them when they knew they coul d rely on the federal Yugoslav army. Now, with Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's men at least pinned down and, according to Nato, badly "degraded", Macedonia's Slavs are worried that the ethnic Albanians would have the upper hand in a civil conflict. The only thing the Macedonian government and police, supported by the Slav majority, don't like about the Serb's "ethnic cleansing" of Kosovar Albanians is the fact that many of the Serbs' victims have ended up here. Macedonia wants them to move on as fast as international humanitarian flights can pack them in. "They stink. They don't wash. They don't abide by our laws," said my Macedonian taxi driver, a Slav. "And they breed like rabbits. They're all after a Greater Albania, including western Macedonia, even the west bank of the Vardar river [through the capital, Skopje]." He was not a Serb but, like the majority in Macedonia, left no doubt he supported Mr Milosevic and opposed the Nato bombing. His keyring bore the double eagle symbol of Serbia's hardline Chetnik nationalists and their motto: "Only unity saves the Serbs." He was proud that he and his fellow Skopje taxi drivers were going to drive to Serbia tomorrow to donate their blood to victims of the bombing. This, after all, is the city where the locals attacked the US embassy after the Nato operation began. On Saturday night, I had witnessed a street brawl in Skopje. It started as a drunken fight between an ethnic Albanian and a Slav but soon a dozen men were involved. Between kicks and blows, ethnic slurs were exchanged. Locals said such scenes were happening nightly since the refugee crisis began almost two months ago. From Irish Times -- UN humanitarian mission arrives in Belgrade -- Kosovan refugees resume flight to Macedonia -- Cluster bombs 'not serving human rights' -- Opinion: Alliance with big powers flies in the face of our anti- colonial past -- Monday, May 17, 1999 Politicians team up with clubs to achieve goals -- The Government's decision to boycott the June 5th match in Dublin between Ireland and Yugoslavia is only the latest example of how, when it comes to the Balkans, football and politics are hopelessly intertwined. Using the sport as your political football has brought dividends for a whole generation of politicians across the post-communist Balkans. Yugoslavia has escaped the ban from world football arising from the war in Bosnia, but with visiting teams unhappy about dodging cruise missiles, it will see its home matches for the
[CTRL] Fwd: [govtwatch] MUST READ: Interview - Littleton Witness ChrisWisher
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:50:00 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [govtwatch] MUST READ: Interview - Littleton Witness Chris Wisher Interview - Littleton Witness Chris Wisher Friday, May 07, 1999 John Quinn A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A PLEASE FORWARD AS FAR AND WIDELY AS POSSIBLE! ** URGENT: I conducted a telephone interview with Columbine High School student and witness Chris Wisher on Friday May 7th, 1999, and also spoke briefly with his father. I asked the father about Chriss statement from the day of the tragedy identifying the person being arrested as one of the gunmen. Mr. Wisher said they had spent 2 ½ hours with the FBI and apparently Mr. Wisher was reluctant to say too much as the investigation is ongoing. However, he DID say that Chris and the family are doing "everything they can to see that those responsible are brought to justice!" Obviously, he is not referring to dead people here! I then spoke with Chris himself. Among his remarks and comments, Chris Wisher stated to me that he and certain companions are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that AT LEAST THREE perpetrators were involved in the mayhem at the school, and have given their testimony to that effect. This was directly witnessed by them outside the school building. One of those witnessed was the person in a white T-shirt throwing bombs onto the school roof. Another was someone OTHER THAN Harris or Klebold, OUTSIDE, in a black trenchcoat with a shotgun. SIMULTANEOUSLY they heard shots coming from INSIDE THE SCHOOL!. Chris Wisher also stated that he is personally acquainted with another witness who witnessed a GROUP OF 7-8 ASSAILANTS UPSTAIRS at Columbine in black trenchcoats with weapons, when Harris and Klebold were downstairs! He told me that there were MANY OTHER WITNESSES TO THIS! Mr. Wisher further stated that he is personally acquainted with a witness who was blatantly coerced by the Jefferson County Sheriffs Dept. investigators to CHANGE THEIR TESTIMONY REGARDING ADDITIONAL GUNMEN! Every time she stated that she saw more than three people they attempted to get her to CHANGE HER TESTIMONY! Whats more, I was told that a number of other witnesses have ALSO been coerced by investigators into changing their testimony. Mr. Wisher stated that many Columbine students, including himself, WILL NOT RETURN TO SCHOOL, because some of the murderers are RIGHT THERE, ATTENDING SCHOOL! This is yet another control element of this diabolically clever operation. What an EXTRAORDINARY intimidation upon ANYONE who would say what they know; to have some of the perpetrators right there in front of you and know that investigating "authorities," incomprehensibly, have "CLEARED" these murderers from any involvement; knowing that these participants in the slaughter are walking around with impunity and could obviously take measures to silence anyone. Chris stated to me that he and other students/witnesses KNOW that a coverup is going on in Littleton. He pointed out that the fact SWAT teams waited fours hours before entering Columbine High School literally proves that they and other authorities were well aware there were far more than two gun men inside. Furthermore, Chris noted that he and other witnesses found it incomprehensible how 67 explosive devices could have been positioned in the building by just Harris and Klebold: and hard to figure how not one of these devices was seen by ANYONE, no matter how many people had positioned them. Other than what would be called circumstantial evidence the only solid evidence yet which I know of PROVING that investigators are intentionally COVERING UP facts, and are ACTIVELY PRESSURING WITNESSES TO CHANGE THEIR STORIES comes from my talk with Columbine student Chris Wisher. Wishers statements to me are the single strongest proof so far that more than playing with the news being dribbled to the public, the "authorities" are actively, AGGRESSIVELY instituting a GENUINE coverup at this point in time. That being the case, though I deeply empathize with the unimaginable horror these families have been through, I believe it is far more horrifying for them and our country as a whole that a coverup about this gruesome madness is allowed to stand. How deep will their grief be then, knowing that the real truth has been buried; that some of the murderers of the kids have either disappeared or are, UNBELIEVABLY, back at school; their kids have been brutalized yet again by a system bent on twisting the truth; utterly spitting on the graves of those lost and protecting itself and its apparent complicity to whatever degree at all costs? I strongly urge witnesses and their families to maintain their position an refuse to give in under pressure to ANYONE in ANY POSITION who attempts to manipulate and/or coerce them. I would also strongly urge anyone who knows witnesses and/or their families to bring up the
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: beltek [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Pope: Romania trip was historic. Pope JP2 called his recent trip to Romania "historic" because it was his first to a mainly Orthodox country. And...? http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559519974-2d6 : What's the most historic thing a Pope could do? Submit to Mohammed? The most historic thing a Pope could do would be to be overcome with some sense about birth control. That would be even better than female priests. Rome would probably need a female pope first. Another one - the last was around CD 950, Pope Joan, and she didn't last long enough to make any major policy changes. Let's see, how to make a pope change course on reproductive freedom...? Mind-control rays? Blackmail? Bribery? I know - alien abduction and replacement by a doppelganger. That's it. Ric, hopeful... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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[CTRL] Fw: What's New for May 14, 1999
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: What's New [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 3:28 PM Subject: What's New for May 14, 1999 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 14 May 99 Washington, DC 1. SPY HYSTERIA I: AUTOMATIC DECLASSIFICATION IS DELAYED. Under Executive Order 12958 classified documents over 25 years old were to be automatically declassified in April 2000 (WN 21 Jan 95). At Energy Secretary Richardson's request, however, President Clinton will extend the deadline by 18 months. DOE will use the period to search the documents for nuclear design information. Meanwhile, the long-awaited release of the Cox report is still awaited. The New York Times now reports that intelligence officials expect China to deploy a missile with a nuclear warhead based on stolen American secrets within three or four years. 2. SPY HYSTERIA II: EVERY MAN SHOULD TRY TO CHECK HIS FACTS. Historians have puzzled for years over the identity of a Manhattan Project spy code-named Perseus. In his memoirs, "Every Man Should Try," Jeremy Stone, President of the Federation of American Scientists, claimed to have located Perseus, whom he calls X. Based on a few lines in a Russian article that Perseus is quoted as having uttered to his Soviet recruiter, lines that had been translated into Russian and then back into English and then edited, Stone decided Perseus sounded like Philip Morrison, a distinguished MIT physicist and revered statesman of science. Although he does not identify Morrison by name, Stone included details that made it clear who he thought X was. Morrison was astounded; he had denied any identification with Perseus when Stone told him of his concerns in 1994 and assumed his denial was accepted. He points out that the Russian article gives details of the background of Perseus that do not in any way match his. Stone was quoted in the NY Times this morning as saying he now "accepts" the denial. Damn nice of him. Morrison repeated this morning that, "I remain loyal to the letter and spirit of my commitment to atomic secrecy, and I have never breached the trust that my colleagues, my employers and my country placed in me." 3. THE CHALLENGE: HOMEOPATHY VIA THE INTERNET. As revealed by Time Magazine this week, I have been in discussions with Brian Josephson (1973 Nobel Prize in Physics) over a protocol for a proposed double-blind trial of the claims of French homeopathist Jacques Benveniste. It was Benveniste who reported in a 1988 Nature article that a solution of a particular antibody retains its biological activity even after it is so diluted that not a single molecule of antibody remains(30X). The solution is said to "remember." Benveniste now reports that he can detect the electromagnetic "signature" of this memory and transfer it via the Internet to another container of water anywhere in the world. In the proposed test, Benveniste would identify which of a group of water samples have been remotely activated. We had hoped the test could carried out quickly. Alas, Dr. Benveniste now says there are a number of improvements that need to be made in the interests of reliability. Nevertheless, we remain hopeful. THE AMERICAN PHYSICAL SOCIETY (Note: Opinions are the author's and are not necessarily shared by the APS, but they should be.) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Gun Control I
Post Number 122: Gun Control 1 Never in history has any government disarmed the people of the nation unless genocide was planned. For reference, please see Russia and China in this century, not to mention Nazi Germany. The intent of the so-called leaders of any nation can be revealed, clearly, in these actions to create a defenseless populace. The frightening thing is that so few people understand that the country which is the premier leader in disarming people is the British government. As the quote which follows reveals, the British have been doing this for a long time, and not solely in India. A study of what went on in South Africa during the Boer Wars will give you a very good look into the heart and soul of the British, and it is not a pretty sight. For the first time that I know of, extermination camps were used for civilians by the British in the Boer Wars. Now, they were not called this, but by far the greatest losses the Boers suffered during these wars was the frightening losses suffered in these camps, of their women, old men and children. And it makes no sense to argue that these deaths were an accident, just as it does no good to argue that the so-called Un-Constitutional laws within the United States are an accident, and if we just work a little harder, we can get them changed. Ridiculous! If they were an accident, they would be changed already. Just as the way that the British ran their camps in South Africa would have changed after the first 10,000, or maybe after the first 20,000 deaths in the camps. That the British did not change how the camps were operated reveals the true intent behind the camps, as nothing else can, just as the laws which continue to be enacted within the Untied States reveals the true intent behind those in Washington, DC. For reference, see Post #4; Real republicans. "Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act which deprived a whole nation of arms as the blackest." -- Mahatma Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446. When the police can't protect us OCR May 2, 1999 Why did the police SWAT team, whose armored members surrounded the high school for hours, not enter the building more quickly? Predictably enough, the Columbine High School massacre has provoked calls by the Clinton administration and gun-control activists to do something about gun violence, such as further limiting Americans' access to firearms. The basic idea behind gun control is that average people should not be allowed to possess firearms for self-protection since some will use them improperly - but should depend on the police and other authorities in the face of danger. Yet a close look at the tragedy in Littleton, Colo. does more to debunk this basic gun-control premise than to support it. An article in The New York Times last week gingerly raised a question that has become a heated topic on the Internet and talk radio: Why did the police SWAT team, whose armored members surrounded the high school for hours, not enter the building more quickly? In a recent column, James Bovard, author of freedom in Chains: The Rise of the State and the Demise of the Citizen, quoted some of the explanations offered by Littleton-area police: One deputy who initially exchanged fire with a shooter, then left to call for backup, said his actions helped fleeing students. The sheriff said his forces were outgunned. A sheriff's department spokesman said they were worried about protecting policemen. These bromides only reinforce Mr. Bovard's premise: [T]he ... slow response by SWAT teams and other lawmen to the killings in progress turned a multiple homicide into a historic massacre. The ... excuses being offered vivify how law enforcement has no legal liability to people they fail to protect. The Colorado killings offer stark evidence why citizens cannot rely on government for personal safety. Indeed, the government's position is simple: We don't trust you to protect yourself with handguns or rifles, but the police have no obligation to protect you, either. This point, rather than hand-wringing about violent video games and easy access to guns, needs to capture more attention, because it holds the key to making schools safer. There's nothing wrong with trying to learn what makes some seemingly normal teens commit such an atrocity. Or to look at nihilistic aspects of our culture, which may have contributed to the killings. But such approaches offer imprecise answers at best. Even if all guns were outlawed, the black market would flourish, just as it does for illegal drugs. Rather than aim for the unachievable goal of banishing all firearms, policy makers should look for ways to ensure that law-abiding citizens have access to them when they're needed. In Israel, requiring teachers to be armed put a very rapid end to the PLO's longstanding strategy of targeting school children, David Kopel told us; he's a New York University law professor and
[CTRL] Fw: Full Washington Weekly Interview with LD Brown
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: David Goldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.conspiracy Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 9:34 PM Subject: Full Washington Weekly Interview with LD Brown I Was Bill Clinton's Bag Man Interview with Author L.D. Brown By MARVIN LEE In his recently released book, "Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation," author L.D. Brown finally makes a full admission of the crimes that he helped then-Governor Bill Clinton commit in the 1980s. Brown admits that, while assigned to then-Governor Clinton's security detail, he actually performed the role of Clinton's "bag man." But Brown has also included a shocker of a current scandal that has yet to unfold in the U.S. media: a current covert White House operation aimed at supporting the Irish Republican Army in Northern Ireland. I interviewed Brown about these topics as well as Brown's and Clinton's role in the Nicaraguan Contra supply operation at Mena airport in 1980s and other topics revealed in his book: QUESTION: You reveal in the book that you were a "bag man" for Bill Clinton. You actually use that term. BROWN: Well, it's the best term to use. In a crime world, when writers write about the man who carries the money around, it is usually the "bag man." Frankly, that's what it was. We used a paper sack, a brown paper bag. QUESTION: Did you just collect from local businessmen, some of whom you name in the book, or did you also in any way get involved in collecting money from Chinese businessmen? BROWN: No. I knew Charlie Trie... QUESTION: But not in a fundraising context? BROWN: Not in a fundraising context. And, quite frankly, I don't know whether Charlie was a contributor to Bill during his gubernatorial elections. QUESTION: He was, through Richard Mays. BROWN: One thing I do remember is that we didn't have to pay for the event at Charlie Trie's restaurant. We had a pretty good bill there. QUESTION: And there's another thing. You reveal in the book a relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster. That must have been apparent to Charlie Trie because it took place in his restaurant? BROWN: Charlie wasn't downstairs. QUESTION: So he may not have known about it? BROWN: He didn't know about it that night. QUESTION: So, in your role as bag man, you never picked up any packages of money from Mena airport? BROWN: No, none other than what [CIA contractor Barry] Seal gave me. QUESTION: Yes, for yourself. You may know that Jerry Parks' widow says that her husband drove cash from Mena airport on a contract for Vince Foster [1]. BROWN: As far as I remember, I have never met Jerry Parks at Mena airport. When we came and left there, there was no activity in and around the airplane. The Dixie Mafia QUESTION: On another topic, when you expose all the crimes that took place in Arkansas, you never mention the Dixie Mafia. Is the relationship of people like Dan Lasater, Patsy Thomasson, and Buddy Young to the Dixie Mafia not a significant factor in this, you think? BROWN: Well, having been in law enforcement for quite a number of years, I have a different connotation about the, quote, Dixie Mafia, unquote. It's not like the Marcellos in New Orleans, the Cosa Nostras, the Capos, and all that. The Dixie Mafia is much more loose knit--not identifiable as a gang in a hierarchy as other organized crime gangs. I guess it is an unorganized crime organization. It's more of a social structure. I never really thought about that, trying to put all this in the context of an organized crime operation, even though if you take the separate acts that have been committed, it's certainly a racketeering operation. QUESTION: You know Roger Morris, in his biography of Bill Clinton, was the first to try to put the entire thing in a Mafia context, pointing out, actually, that Bill Clinton's first campaign was funded, presumably, through the Mafia, through his uncle Raymond. BROWN: Well, I don't doubt that. And that is more "Mafia" Mafia, as you think of Cosa Nostra, when you talk about the old Hot Springs crowd. QUESTION: Speaking of Seal and [Carlos] Marcello, whom you brought up. Did you know that Seal had worked for Marcello? BROWN: It doesn't surprise me. Covert Operation in Northern Ireland QUESTION: Speaking of covert operations, you reveal in the book an effort by the Clinton administration to divert money from food aid and airplane parts from Russia to the Irish
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Re: [CTRL] URGENT!!! Ground war in Europe appears imminent.
-Caveat Lector- Urgent what? That there is a coming ground war? This did not go through in 93 because of German Secret Service. Now, all the pieces are in place. You seem to be like someone in a theatre excitedly saying, 'look what is happening next..." Of course it is. And if one ruse does not work another will. The 'great game' is an old game. You can curtail this by understanding how it works at the top, not just being an upset observer. Back in 93 General Odom, head of NSA called for such a large amount of divisions that if I posted it here it would probably not be believed. It was printed in the Boston Globe. I am on this board because the weakest link in this old conspiracy is flight 800. The atomic bomb changed the rules. Secret agreements had to be made concerning the non use of them. They were brokered by my Father's boss, Henry Luce. China took down flight 800 because of a double cross within those agreements. When enough people see how the conspiracy works at the very top, it will dismantle itself. Michael Donovan Norfolk, Virginia nurev wrote: -Caveat Lector- PLEASE PASS THIS INFO TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN. As usual, CAVEAT LECTOR ( reader beware ) we are dealing with war propaganda from all sides.-- Joshua2 --- Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:47:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rolf Martens) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist Fwd: Another warning re US-Yug, with new details [Fwd: 16.05.99] I'm forwarding to newsgroups and to some mail addresses the fol- lowing, which I've received just now. It supplements another warning in the same direction sent and forwarded on 13.05. -RM Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 06:59:49 +0200 From: democrite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Editions =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E9mocrite?= X-Accept-Language: fr,el,ru,es,af Subject:[Fwd: Warning !!!] ... Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 00:49:08 +0200 From: World Act Now [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Accept-Language: en To: .. Subject:Warning !!! Alarming scenario: We have here all kind of nationalities so warning is in serbianinform everybody you know about this...esp. any diplomatic and similar relations You have !!! So God Help You [Text in English follows after that in Serbian. - RM] Ovo je danas stiglo (iz Hrvatske) i ako imate mogucnosti da prosledite nekom novinaru da se pripremi javnost na to. Sve govori da se pripremaju za kopnenu invaziju. DT -Original Message- Subject:citaj, Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:34:24 -0500 Sve je spremno, Markale II - Pitanje dana !!! Unatrag dva tjedna se na vise web stranica pojavila vijest da NATO priprema scenario slican onome na sarajevskoj pijaci Markale koji bi im trebao posluziti za animiranje javnosti za upotrebu kopnenih snaga. Do danas nisam bila uvjerena da je to tocno ali sam imala krivo. snip Serbian text. http://www.xs4all.nl/~roman1/warningblackoperations.htm Black operations: Markale market "massacre" the sequel We have been notified from our unofficial sources (rather reliable, so far) that a sequel to Sarajevo Markale market "massacre" is in preparation. NATO countries' public has been reluctant to accept the ground troops deployment. The air raids are not yielding any tangible results. The war can not be won from air alone, and for escalating the air strike to full deployment of ground troops a REALLY good cause is needed. Similar ideas have been toyed with for quite a while. There were rumours of "something" going on, some unspecified preparations being carried out, but no more details given, leaving everything in the realm of the usual propaganda and counter-propaganda of both sides. But latest information we gathered have more disturbing details, adding considerable weight to the rumours: "Reportedly a group of American and German pilots are training for some time now on Yugoslav made Croatian Air Force planes "galeb" and "jastreb". The planes will be painted in the FRY Air Force colours and insignia and used for bombing the ethnic Albanian refugee camps in Albania. That would be the "just" cause for ground troops intervention. Additional facts that support this scenario are: 1. For days NATO has intensified the relocation of refugees from the border regions of Albania and Macedonia further inland. 2. The arrival of NATO aeroplanes into Albania and Skopje is not covered by tv reports as before (business associate in Macedonia confirmed that the number of transport aeroplanes arriving to Skopje has significantly increased). 3. Christian Amanpour has arrived to Albania. " Our comment: It is
Re: [CTRL] THE TEMPLE OF THE SCREAMING ELECTRON
-Caveat Lector- real cool thanks for the site DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Police Have no DUTY to Protect Individuals
-Caveat Lector- On 14 May 99, , Teo wrote: -Caveat Lector- This is a great essay, thanks for posting it! It seems to me, especially in light of the Columbine police debacle, that the police are out to get a paycheck and serve the rich and powerful, not us ordinary Joe's. We all have to defend ourselves from criminals AND the police. If they bust in your door at 4:00 AM with a warrant they got based upon the word of a drug addict (who gave your address just to try and get off of a lesser charge) or come to your house through a "clerical error" I suggest you robustly defend your home and shoot them. We'll see how long it is that "no knock" warrants stay in effect then if they start dropping like flies. Some police do a good job, but a LOT of them are PIGS just like they said back in the day. You may or may not have noticed, in your examination of the media for those nasty "liberal" values, but many interesting and exciting movies and tv features over the past few decades--including The Fugitive--are based on a version of the plot where someone is murdered and either the police do nothing or arrest the wrong person. Then the person who has lost someone to the murderer or the person who has been wrongly arrested must (escape and ) solve the case by him/herself in order to either avoid being wrongly accused and tossed in jail (and/or legally executed) or find the real killer. This is one of the most common plots we have going these days. It would certainly suggest police incompetence--and/or negligence. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Colleen
-Caveat Lector- Colleen, Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul, Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How can we know the dancer from the dance? - [From "Among School Children," by W.B. Yeats] Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FWD: MEDIA'S FUTILE ATTEMPTS TO FURTHER HARASS CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT FAILS
-Caveat Lector- MEDIA'S FUTILE ATTEMPTS TO FURTHER HARASS CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT FAILS CBS 60 Minutes, recognizing the US has moved to the middle ground, both politically and morally, tries to divide Conservative vote May 16, 1999, Washington, D.C. In another futile attempt to stifle and harass the conservative movement, CBS 60 Minutes airs interviews with several key influential political leaders and blatantly editorializes that the conservative movement has been "defeated." Attempting to capitalize on activist Paul Weyrichs recent defeatist letter outrageous comments, 60 Minutes seeks to convince viewers that conservative values are dead. With the crime rate in America lower more than ever, fewer teenagers and female adults choosing abortion, the Republican party remaining in power in both the Senate and House, and US President Bill Clinton desperately clinging to a middle-of-the ground agenda, conservative values have had more of an impact than ever. While some so-called conservative "activists" like Weyrich have chosen to play martyr and follow the path of defeatism, others, like true believers and leaders Gary Bauer and Pat Robertson, strongly believe that the good fight must go on. There is still much to do, comments Bauer. Much needs to get accomplished, says Robertson. And this can only be done with the help and support of folks who still believe in good-old fashioned values. Values that extend the beauty and joy of life, for both young and old. Values that agree with much of the courageous GOP agenda. And, most importantly, values that are still held by millions of Americans who know that this great nation was not built on defeatist attitudes but the confidence and belief that good will ultimately prevail. Theres no reason why the defining word "Christian" should be taken away from the popular groups title "Christian Coalition," as 60 Minutes would like to see happen. After all, the group is a coalition of Christians who collectively believe in similar values. They are Christians and it is a coalition. Does anyone dictate the title of any other groups who have done so much good for so many people? If it were up to shows like 60 Minutes, the media would simply dictate its own ideology across the board with no consideration of public will. While Weyrich believes that he has lost, there are millions of others who feel that the US and the world deserves an alternative to the lefts muddled view of they way things ought to be. Weyrich, personally, may have lost. Thats his business, and should not in any way detract attention from the widely-accepted conservative message, as the media would so much like to see happen. Whether its a letter to the editor, an opinion piece submission or contacting your local lawmaker, let the media know that you support prayer in schools, the life of an unborn child, and the right for every taxpaying US citizen to bear arms. Dont allow the media to pollute your life with its filthy and backward view of the world. Let the media know that it has failed. And failed miserably. -30- --snip FYI Regards, -A http://www.erols.com/mack97 "The sharpest tool in the shed." -- anonymous DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Son of Camilla snorts supplies Cocaine
-Caveat Lector- News in UK [sunday Times] is that the son of Camilla Parker Bowles consort and former mistress of the hier to the throne of England Prince Charles: has been discovered snorting cocaine and has also offered to SUPPLY a young London party girl. Previous offences have included possession of cannabis and ecstasy - but this chappie appears to be making his way up the chain. He has since apologised 'humbly' for his social errors and in future will watch what he is doing with the family silver. Meanwhile, there are no reports of the rehabilitation of the son of Jack Straw, UK Home Office Minister - ostensibly in charge of national Security who was also arrested on drugs offences. Perhaps the UK Voter, forced to accept the implementation of the NWO and UNESCO and WHO strategies of citizenship, globalization and re-education - may be inclined to volunteer these two DEVIANTS as defined by the United Nations for the Healthy Start and Healthy Person programmes so that they can lose the bad examples that their parents have inflicted on their lives ?? Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group EdinburghScotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Colleen
-Caveat Lector- Brian: Well, to know the dancer from the dance; there are no strings on me nor you, I am sure. Depends on who writes the music, doesn't it. Thanks Brian.Someday I want to see Xanadu.you know, it is all here in the USA - and all we need is a new conductor. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Son of Camilla snorts supplies Cocaine
-Caveat Lector- Please email me that you are SINCERE and that you HATE THE BRITISH ROYALS DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
