[CTRL] Government Had Intelligence Suggesting Oklahoma City Attack Weeks Before McVeigh Struck
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[CTRL] The Forgotten Exodus
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[CTRL] Between the religious Right and the unreligious Left
are being killed, maimed, enslaved, and subjugated as never before in our history. It has been said, Israel is the canary in the mineshaft. This adage refers to the practice of miners who took caged canaries into the mines with them. If the canaries died, it meant the shafts were filling with lethal gases and the miners needed to get out, or they would die next. Their lesson should not be lost on us. It is not solely the State of Israel we are watching; it is the Jewish people, who are increasingly being forced to live and work behind barriers or in buildings unmarked by symbols of Jewry. At the moment, most people choose to ignore the dimensions of the peril. But it is nevertheless real. And if Israel and the Jewish people are the canaries, the situation for evangelicals is not much better. We stand precariously close to the cage. In 1968, Eric Hoffer, the longshoreman-turned-philosopher, said this: I have a premonition that will not leave me; as it goes with Israel so will it go with all of us. Should Israel perish, the Holocaust will be upon us. What's Wrong With the Religious Right? Let's put it another way. What's wrong with the people of the unreligious Left who presume to cast conscientious fellow citizens as potential terrorists and political outlaws? Yes. I think that question reads much better. The writer is a prominent Christian author and syndicated radio broadcaster in the US, as well as on JPost Radio. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Show Fullcid=1042515742684 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Official Palestinian TV: Afflict the Jews
-Caveat Lector- The Zionist Organization of America Jacob Libby Goodman ZOA House Phone: 212-481-1500 4 East 34th St. New York, NY 10016 Fax: 212-481-1515 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Web Site: http:www.zoa.org December 11, 2002 Contact: (212-481-1500) In Violation of Bush's Conditions Palestinian Authority TV Urges Muslims To Afflict The Jews NEW YORK- Official Palestinian Authority Television has appealed to Muslims to afflict the Jews --yet another blatant violation of the conditions that President Bush established in his June 24, 2002 speech. President Bush said in his June 24 speech that the Palestinian Arabs must end incitement to violence in official media. A new report by the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has found that during the five months since President Bush's major Middle East policy speech, the Palestinian Arabs have not fulfilled any of the conditions that the president set forth before the U.S. will support creation of a Palestinian Arab state. For a free copy of the ZOA's report, call the ZOA at 212-481-1500. Palestinian Media Watch reports that on December 6, 2002, official PA Television broadcast a religious sermon by Dr. Mustafa Najem in which he said: The Jews...are the brothers of monkeys and pigs...Allah has warned us against their evil and their arrogance, and has said: 'You will find that the most brazen among mankind, with hatred towards the believers, are the Jews and the Idolaters.' [Koran, 81,5]...The Jews are Jews, and we are forbidden to forget their character traits even for a moment, even for a blink of an eye. O [Muslims] Servants of Allah! The Jews are those who tried to murder your Prophet in order to expunge the call [to Islam]. It is no wonder that it has been legitimized [for them] to kill and slaughter us...Allah said against the Jews and the Idolators 'your Lord has declared that he will surely send against them [Jews] until Resurrection, those [Arabs and Muslims] who will afflict them with terrible torment.' Prayer and blessing to the Imam of the Jihad fighters, Mohammed, who waged a Jihad against the Jews...The Jews...are Idolaters, heretics, whose faith is false...It is not unusual for the Jews, nor uncharacteristic of their traits, or their ancestry, or their wild behavior, what they are doing. Slaughter after slaughter, invasion after invasion this has been the custom of the Jews throughout the generations and the ages. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Violence and Islam
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[CTRL] Religion of Peace? Prove it.
Muslims to Jews in Weimar Germany. But you can hear crickets chirp or, at best, you can read torpid boilerplate, when it comes time to denounce Muslim atrocities. By the way, I'm outraged by the Germany comparison not as a Jew but as an American. There isn't a scintilla of validity to the insinuation that America has been anything but the antithesis of what Hooper and self-pitying whiners claim. According to the very FBI statistics they cite, twice as many Jews as Muslims were the victims of hate crimes in the United States since 19 Muslim fanatics murdered 3,000 Americans on 9/11. And, by the way, if a Jew used those numbers in order to justify saying America feels like Weimar Germany I would call him an idiot who should be ashamed of himself for slandering America (and demeaning the Holocaust as well). The fact is that, while even one crime is too many, the post-9/11 backlash against Muslims in America has been astoundingly mild by historical standards. Compared to what happened to German-Americans during WWI or Japanese-Americans in WWII it barely even warrants an asterisk in the history books. Oh, and speaking of denouncing fellow Jews, I've done it plenty of times. For example, when Irv Rubin of the JDL was arrested for plotting a terrorist attack I denounced him in the strongest possible terms, as did pretty much every prominent Jewish figure in America within 48 hours. (See Jeff Jacoby's excellent column from December 20, 2001. You need to scroll down.) I bring this up not to brag about my consistency but to make the point that it's important not to let others speak in your name if you disagree with what they're saying. Especially when they're saying it with bombs and guns. I will have a lot more sympathy for the complaints of Muslim activists once they put even a fraction of the energy they dedicate to portraying themselves as victims of bigoted America or Europe toward policing and condemning their own co-religionists. If they're afraid for their personal safety or even their lives not an unreasonable fear that's no excuse. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and the rest may constitute hijackers in the cockpit of a peaceful religion, but they will define Islam if the folks in the main cabin don't fight the hijackers. That's what happened with Nazis in Germany, and that's what will happen with militant Islam if non-militant Islam continues to insist that its biggest enemies are the open and tolerant nations of the West that gave them the opportunity to live decent lives in freedom. If they persist in that complaint, nobody will be able to justly blame average Americans for scoffing at the suggestion that Islam means peace. http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg120402.asp A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice. - - Barry Goldwater If what the protesters did to that fence in Quebec was wrong then so was what those terrorists in Boston did to that tea in the harbor, and so was what Jesus did to the money changers in the temple. A novel argument Nessie, but a wee bit presumptious to compare a melange of undergraduate middle class hypocrites acting out their revolutionary fantasies, unionists with a barrow of self-interest to push, and green utopians with JC and some colonists protesting about tea taxes. As I said in my original posting, the fence was set up because of what those civilised protestors, demonstrating their unique interpreation of free speech and democracy (for themselves, not for others), had done previously in Seattle, London, Prague and Melbourne. A fine group of people. If nobody stands up to the NWO, we'll all end up working in sweat shops in the middle of a toxic waste dump. Pull the other one. You cowards out there can whine all day about the NWO on the internet from the safety of your home, and ruling elites donât give a ratâs ass. Cowards? Compared to those self-styled global saviours with their balaclavas slingshots, many of whom belong to political organisations which barely register a blip on most people's radar, and whose policies most people would find somewhat unrealistic, I'm not sure if I should be insulted. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Democracy Trampled in QuebecCity
-Caveat Lector- Thanks for sharing this. I am s glad people are getting to see what is REALLY going on. An interesting notion, as with the protests against the WEF in Melbourne last year, there is a tendency especially among sympathisers and those who took part, to portray the protestors as victims of police brutality. But it seems to me that the heavy-handed reponse in Quebec is a direct result of the excesses of extremists, the anarchists, Trotskyists and other self-appointed revolutionaries, usually members of white middle class with a guilt complex (which they usually get over when they grow up) who show their contempt for democracy and free speech through their so-called peaceful blockades and deliberate acts of vandalism and violence. After the contemptible behaviour of some protestors in London (May 99), Seattle, Prague and Melbourne anyone who dared to protest in Quebec should have seen the police overkill coming. But there are times when I think that's exactly the sort of response that the revolutionaries and other radicals want to make martyrs of themselves. That doesn't resolve the issue of whether free trade is a good thing. I don't presume to know yet. But I suppose it depends on what your self-interest is, and I have to say that taxing consumers to protect jobs in unsustainble industries, thereby locking out cheaper, usually developing country suppliers, is morally suspect... BD A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Icke On FTAA
-Caveat Lector- More incisive commentary from Icke!!! And all the the answers to the questions we dare not ask. Where would we be without him! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Icke On FTAA
-Caveat Lector- Europe has already gone further than the Americas into a deep union that continues to grow, and members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations are toying with the idea of forming an Asian Union that would bring in China, Japan and South Korea. [This is the Pacific Union I have been predicting in my books and talks for many years. And they are not toying with the idea, they are toying with the minds of the masses. It is the Illuminati agenda and the leaders of these countries know it.] It takes no great leap of imagination to predict a Pacific Union, but it is rather disingenious for Icke to claim to have predicted in his talks and books for years when the idea pretty much took shape in the late 1980s when APEC was first proposed. BD A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AL GORE INVENTED ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION!
-Caveat Lector- AL GORE HAS GIVEN AMERICA ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION! ATTENTION REPUBLICANS! And especially anyone with connection to the Bush Campaign. Are you aware that Al Gore hired a telemarketing company to call 5,000 registered Democrat voters in Florida and urge them to call in complaints about the Florida ballots? The Gore Campaign hired Telequest of San Antonio, Texas to make 5,000 calls on Election Day while the polls were open. The point is this: THIS WAS A PRE-PLANNED DEAL! The protests and complaints about the ballots were planned in advance! Wake up! THE GORE CAMP CREATED THIS PROBLEM SO THEY COULD DEMAND THE RECOUNT! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Dead Should Be Allowed to Vote!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/12/2000 10:49:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Police find locked ballot box at Miami hotel. "At the moment we don't know exactly what's in the box," the officer said. It was not clear how the box arrived at the hotel..." _ Perhaps it is because our national elections are held so close to Halloween and all of the "spirits" have not realized the party is overbut it is a well-known phenomenon that many dead people somehow rise from their graves and vote in our elections. Turns out that many of the people whom Jesse Jackson is saying were "disenfranchised because of their race" were black people trying to use the names and registrations of deceased white people. Some of these were turned away by workers at the polls who noticed the fraud. Well..any time now, I'm expecting the Gore camp to come up with the following argument: "If the dead can win an election, why can't the dead vote?" After all, in the state of Missouri a dead man won a seat in the Senate in a race coinciding with the presidential election. If a dead former Governor (Mel Carnahan) can win an election, it seems only fair that the dead should be allowed to vote. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] You will have to kill all of us...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/12/2000 10:42:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: " My prediction: This is GOING to get ugly." ___ Take a moment to consider that not only is it "going to get ugly"but that it was planned this way. Do you remember that last summer, Bill Clinton quietly put Janet Reno in charge of FEMA responses to domestic disturbances? Her appointment became effective October 1st. This position has always be held by the Secretary of Defenseuntil now. Reno's appointment to this position is really strange. The DoD is trained and equipped to respond to such situations. The paper pushers at the Dept. of Justice are not. Alsowhy would Clinton put Reno in this position when she, and the rest of his Administration are supposed to be leaving office in January? Why make an appointment which will only last for 3 months? If this election turmoil really gets ugly, we may learn the hard way why Clinton put Reno in charge of "responding to domestic disturbances" because we may have some for her to respond to. And at Waco, Reno proved just how effective she can be at managing such situations. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The REAL conspiracy behind the election farce
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/11/2000 11:34:08 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is my considered opinion that this election is being manipulated and engineered... To get people to think that their votes are important and that THEY decide who is elected to office. __ You are right on target with this. The build-up for the present situation started with the phony polls in the media leading up to the election. One day it would be Gore with the lead, next day it would be Bush. So the public expected a very close election. Now they are recounting, and then recounting the recount. Now we are hearing about "legal challenges". Now we are hearing about there may be recounts in other states. Now we are hearing about how the Electoral College should be abolished. Consider this. Last summer, Bill Clinton quietly put Janet Reno in charge of FEMA responses to domestic disturbances. Her appointment became effective October 1st. This position has always be held by the Secretary of Defenseuntil now. Reno's appointment to this position is really strange. The DoD is trained and equipped to respond to such situations. The paper pushers at the Dept. of Justice are not. Alsowhy would Clinton put Reno in this position when she, and the rest of his Administration is supposed to be leaving office in January? Why make an appointment which will only last for 3 months? If this election turmoil really gets ugly, we may learn the hard way why Clinton put Reno in charge of responding to domestic disturbancesbecause we may have some for her to respond to. And at Waco, Reno proved just how effective she can be at managing such situations. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Poll Worker Announces Giving Gore supporters Second Ballots
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/09/2000 5:56:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One other thing does puzzle me--the "confused" voters in Palm Beach County/ These are retirees, mostly from the northeast. _ The lesson to be learned from this is: They should pass a law in Florida that all Ballots must look like Bingo Cards. Then those senior citizens in Florida would know exactly how to work them. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Michael Moore's Letter To Bush
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/05/2000 3:24:34 PM Central Standard Time, Wes676767 writes: Forcible Rape? Proof please? ___ Wes: There is far more proof that Clinton raped a woman than proof that Mike Tyson did. Tyson was convicted of rape and went to prison even though the only "evidence was the word of the woman who he allegedly raped. This woman was a contestant in a beauty pageant. 15 hours after she was allegedly raped, she competed in the swim suit portion of the contest before a large audience and a panel of judges. Supposedly this woman was forced by one of the hardest hitting punchers in boxing history. Yet.there was not a visible mark on her body. She was in perfect physical condition up there on stage under all the lights. Not only were there no bruises, but she was not visibly distraught nor emotionally upset as one would expect a rape victim to be. On the other hand, in the Juanita Broaddrick case, there were witnesses who said she did have a swollen lip where Bill Clinton bit her. There is seldom any hard evidence as "proof" in such cases. But with Clinton there is that incriminating semen stain with Clinton's DNA on Monica's infamous "blue dress". You say that was "consensual" so it doesn't count. But Wes.it reveals the character and the proclivities of the man. I say again: Clinton's "legacy" is that we now have no minimum standards of conduct for a President. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Michael Moore's Letter To Bush
-Caveat Lector- " this man (Bush) does not deserve to be placed in the highest and most respected office in the land! " " I don't want to hear one word comparing this drunk driving conviction to Clinton's (or Gore's) transgressions." __ Well, you are going to hear a word about it. Truth is that Clinton has lowered the standards of morality and conduct to the point that there are now no minimum standards for a U.S. President. Forcible Rape? No problem. Perjury committed in official Federal legal proceedings?No problem. Transferring Top Secret nuclear weapons technology to foreign countries and hiding this from Congress and the American People?No problem. Repeated violations of U.S. Election Laws on fundraising? No problem. Making secret deals with Russia for the illegal transfer of nuclear weapons technology to a terrorist state (Iran)? No problem. This is not an argument in favor of G. W. Bush. But your position that he is "too bad to be President" is absurd. We have had far worse living in the White house for the past 8 years. Bill Clinton's "Legacy" is that there are no more "minimum standards" for the Office of President. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] October Surprise
xception The anti-terrorism law would have put an end to Occidental's plans in Sudan, but it contained a provision allowing the executive branch to make exceptions. The law went into effect during August of 1996. On the same day that the law became operative, the Clinton administration established an exception that allowed U.S. corporations and individuals to do business with Sudan. Three months after the exception was instituted, the government of Sudan barred Occidental from participating in the oil deal. Sudan did this as a result of a newspaper article that appeared in the Washington Post, which revealed that the Clinton administration was giving military support to three nations who were enemies of the government in Sudan. After Occidental could no longer profit from the exception, Bill Clinton closed it. Less than a year after Sudan barred Occidental from the oil deal, Bill Clinton issued an executive order containing language that mirrors the provision in the anti-terrorism law that his administration had excepted. In the executive order, Clinton stated that the policies of the government of Sudan were an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States," and declared "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Less than a year earlier, the Clinton administration stated that there was "nothing improper" in allowing the oil deal between Occidental and Sudan. Al Gore and Occidental In June of 2000, Al Gore said, "It takes somebody who is independent from big oil to take on big oil, and I'm independent from them . . ." At the time when the story about the exception was published, some of Al Gore's extensive financial dealings with Occidental were not widely reported. In addition to campaign contributions, Occidental has been a benefactor of Al Gore and his father for many years. After Gore's father was defeated for reelection in 1970, Occidental hired him at a salary of $500,000 a year. In 1972, Occidental purchased a farm in Tennessee and promptly sold it to Gore's father, who turned around and resold the farm to Al Gore. Over the next decade, Occidental paid Al Gore $20,000 a year for the rights to mine minerals on this land. The payments added up to more than what Gore bought the land for, and during this entire period, Occidental never did any mining there. Presently, Al Gore is the executor of his father's estate, which contains more than $500,000 worth of stock in Occidental. Timeline and Links 3-14-96 Congress passes Antiterrorism bill (S. 735, Section 321). 3-27-96 Occidental chairman Ray Irani sleeps over White House. 3-29-96 Occidental's PAC donates unprecedented $100,000 to DNC. 4-24-96 Clinton signs Antiterrorism bill into law (Public Law 104-132). 8-23-96 Anti-terrorism law goes into effect. 8-23-96 Clinton administration Treasury Department creates exception to law, allowing Occidental to pursue oil deal in Sudan. 11-96 Sudan bars Occidental from oil deal. 1-23-97 Washington Post story published ? Clinton administration says there was nothing improper in allowing Occidental to pursue deal. 11-3-97 Clinton issues Executive Order 13067 closing the exception. Calls Sudan an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States", and declares "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Exclusive News Service is brought to you by the staff at http://www.vje.org/about/about.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A =======
[CTRL] AL GORE'S SNAKE OIL
was instituted, the government of Sudan barred Occidental from participating in the oil deal. Sudan did this as a result of a newspaper article that appeared in the Washington Post, which revealed that the Clinton administration was giving military support to three nations who were enemies of the government in Sudan. After Occidental could no longer profit from the exception, Bill Clinton closed it. Less than a year after Sudan barred Occidental from the oil deal, Bill Clinton issued an executive order containing language that mirrors the provision in the anti-terrorism law that his administration had excepted. In the executive order, Clinton stated that the policies of the government of Sudan were an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States," and declared "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Less than a year earlier, the Clinton administration stated that there was "nothing improper" in allowing the oil deal between Occidental and Sudan. Al Gore and Occidental In June of 2000, Al Gore said, "It takes somebody who is independent from big oil to take on big oil, and I'm independent from them . . ." At the time when the story about the exception was published, some of Al Gore's extensive financial dealings with Occidental were not widely reported. In addition to campaign contributions, Occidental has been a benefactor of Al Gore and his father for many years. After Gore's father was defeated for reelection in 1970, Occidental hired him at a salary of $500,000 a year. In 1972, Occidental purchased a farm in Tennessee and promptly sold it to Gore's father, who turned around and resold the farm to Al Gore. Over the next decade, Occidental paid Al Gore $20,000 a year for the rights to mine minerals on this land. The payments added up to more than what Gore bought the land for, and during this entire period, Occidental never did any mining there. Presently, Al Gore is the executor of his father's estate, which contains more than $500,000 worth of stock in Occidental. Timeline and Links 3-14-96 Congress passes Antiterrorism bill (S. 735, Section 321). 3-27-96 Occidental chairman Ray Irani sleeps over White House. 3-29-96 Occidental's PAC donates unprecedented $100,000 to DNC. 4-24-96 Clinton signs Antiterrorism bill into law (Public Law 104-132). 8-23-96 Anti-terrorism law goes into effect. 8-23-96 Clinton administration Treasury Department creates exception to law, allowing Occidental to pursue oil deal in Sudan. 11-96 Sudan bars Occidental from oil deal. 1-23-97 Washington Post story published ? Clinton administration says there was nothing improper in allowing Occidental to pursue deal. 11-3-97 Clinton issues Executive Order 13067 closing the exception. Calls Sudan an "extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States", and declares "a national emergency to deal with that threat." Exclusive News Service is brought to you by the staff at http://www.vje.org/about/about.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DON'T BLAME JFK
In a message dated 08/20/2000 4:16:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This, too, is reminiscent of Vietnam, where President John F. Kennedy engaged the U.S. without consulting the handful of officials who actually knew something about Hanoi, Dien Bien Phu, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong. ... Correction. Don't blame John Kennedy for the war in Viet Nam. President John Kennedy did not "engage the U.S." in Vietnam. The U.S. was "engaged" by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, starting at least by the time France was defeated at the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The so-called "French Connection".the opium and heroin trafficking from the "golden triangle" of indochina became the "American Connection", following the French defeat. That's what Air America was all about. U.S. engagement in Vietnam continued to grow for at least 7 years before John Kennedy became President. In November 1963, Kennedy issued a National Security Action Memorandum which ordered all Americans out of Viet Nam by the end of 1964. At the time of this Presidential Order, there were less than 16,000 Americans in Viet Nam. John Kennedy was assassinated just 20 days after he gave that order. Lyndon Johnson cancelled Kennedy's order (NSAM), and eventually ordered more than half a million U.S. military personnel into the quagmire in Viet Nam. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] LA Times, 8/20/00: The Ghost of Vietnam Haunts '...
In a message dated 08/20/2000 4:16:19 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This, too, is reminiscent of Vietnam, where President John F. Kennedy engaged the U.S. without consulting the handful of officials who actually knew something about Hanoi, Dien Bien Phu, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Cong. ... Correction. Don't blame John Kennedy for the war in Viet Nam. President John Kennedy did not "engage the U.S." in Vietnam. The U.S. was "engaged" by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, starting at least by the time France was defeated at the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1954. The so-called "French Connection".the opium and heroin trafficking from the "golden triangle" of indochina became the "American Connection", following the French defeat. That's what Air America was all about. U.S. engagement in Vietnam continued to grow for at least 7 years before John Kennedy became President. In November 1963, Kennedy issued a National Security Action Memorandum which ordered all Americans out of Viet Nam by the end of 1964. At the time of this Presidential Order, there were less than 16,000 Americans in Viet Nam. John Kennedy was assassinated just 20 days after he gave that order. Lyndon Johnson cancelled Kennedy's order (NSAM), and eventually ordered more than half a million U.S. military personnel into the quagmire in Viet Nam. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Concorde crash near Paris
In a message dated 07/25/2000 10:24:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just heard on CBS news that a Concorde supersonic jet has crashed into a hotel just outside of Paris. ___ Many eyewitnesses saw the Concorde crash. There are reported to be many pictures of the plane in the air and on impact. Witnesses say they saw flames and smoke coming from one of the engines just as the Concorde left the runway. WHAT IFFrench Officials now came out with a story that there were no flames or smoke coming from the engine. WHAT IF they said it exploded in the air and then fell to the ground? WHAT IF they completely ignored all of the eyewitnesses? THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT.WOULD THEY? WELL..THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT DID IN THE OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION OF THE CRASH OF TWA FLIGHT 800. THEY IGNORED THE REPORTS OF MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY SAW A MISSILE, OR A STREAK COME UP FROM BELOW AND EXPLODE INTO FLIGHT 800. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] $13.3 Billion in Unlawful Aid
In a message dated 07/13/2000 10:10:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WASHINGTON (AP) - The House passed a foreign aid bill Thursday after adding money for the world's indebted nations and the global battle against AIDS. But Democrats said it still won't help millions who suffer in poverty, hunger and sickness. The 239-185 vote approved $13.3 billion for next year for a range of economic, military, development and other programs. _ I challenge anyone to find in the U.S. Constitution any power or authority to give the money of the American People to foreign countries. Foreign Aid is unlawful. It's as simple as that. The People have become so numbed and dumbed they don't even speak a word of protest when the president and the congress loot the public treasury of billions of dollars and dole it out to foreign countries. Every member of Congress who votes for this is guilty of violating their oath to "uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of the united States, for all enemies foreign and domestic." Most of the "enemies of the united States" are in Washington DC. The American People are going to re-elect most of them next November. It's like watching reruns of a bad sitcom for the 20th time. Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BIG BROTHER IS IN ORBIT
SATELLITE SPYING? NOT US...WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS...ARN'T WE? Nakano Posted at Jul 06, 2000 07:16 AM Pacific BRUSSELS, BELGIUM -- The European Parliament approved the creation of a special temporary committee Wednesday to investigate allegations that the U.S.-backed Echelon satellite information system is stealing European industrial secrets. Echelon is a network of supercomputers and satellites run by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) and located in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. It is capable of eavesdropping on electronic communications in the form of faxes, telephone calls and electronic mail. The U.S. and UK governments have repeatedly denied that it is used for industrial espionage, saying the system was set up as a means to fight terrorism, money laundering and drug trafficking. For the full story: http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/00/07/06/000706hnechelon.xml?0706thpm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] ** H O T ** NICHOLS PROJECT = CLINTON ain't Leaving! ** H O T **
In a message dated 07/02/2000 12:12:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEVER FORGET...October 1, 2000...just 5 weeks before our next Presidential Election...'GUNS TANKS' JANET RENO will have the Power to Advise the President, as the New Head of our U.S. Military and Response Team to any Nuclear-Biological-Civil Unrest Attack on our Nation from within or without, that he should stay on in the interests of the Nation. So the Gal that sent the GUNS in on THE KID OF MIAMI and the Gal who sent the TANKS in on THE KIDS OF WACO...will now have the power to send in ANYTHING at all in ON US...at the drop of a Hat. !NEVER FORGET "the Defense Appropriations Act of 1997 put the Secretary of Defense in charge of providing training to FEMA and various other Federal, State and Local emergency response teams in the case of an attack by an NBC (Nuclear/Biological/Chemical) weapon." BUT NOW CLINTON HAS ORDERED THIS CHANGED FROM THE DEPT. OF DEFENSE TO THE DEPT. OF JUSTICE. ON OCTOBER 1, JANET RENO WILL BE IN CHARGE! Take an objective look at the two Departments. Which one has vastly superior experience and resources to conduct this task? NUCLEAR WEAPONS! BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS! The Dept. of Justice has zero experience in these areas. Even if the Attorney General were a widely admired and respected leader, this appointment by Clinton simply doesn't make any sense. Given the reality of the Attorney General we havethis appointment is criminally insane. Reno has only one qualification. She is a totally committed to protect Bill Clinton and to carry out his orders without question and without regard to our Constitution. It is a monumental understatement to say that this appointment of Janet Reno raises many logical and disturbing questions. Regards at All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NUTTY PROFESSOR STRIKES AGAIN
The basic question which has been posed to the Professor repeatedly is: "Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States?" And here is the Professor's answer: "The simple answer to which is: They don't." Professor Jerry Mander This answer confirms what many on this list have long suspected: that Mander is a Professor of Proctology and addicted to self examination. Come on Professor, get your finger out of there! You are contradicting yourself so often you sound like Al Gore...maybe worse. In several previous posts, you have stated: 1. That the Federal Reserve is not a government agency and that it is a private corporation. 2. That the Federal Reserve controls the money supply of the United States via "the deposit taking function" and the "lending function" as you put it. 3. That the Federal Reserve controls interest rates. Now you vacuously proclaim that the Federal Reserve does not have life and death control over the economy of the United States. Professor.are you totally ignorant of the plain fact that every time Alan Greenspan utters a word in public, the financial markets react? If he gets a sniffle, Wall Street gets the flu! Anyone who doubts the FED has a stranglehold on our economy, should do a little study on what FED Chairman Paul Voelcker did to interest rates back in the Carter Administration. The FED pumped up the rates to the point that the prime lending rate topped 18 percent! New housing starts virtually stopped. The construction industry shriveled up and nearly died. New car sales hit all time lows. Unemployment soared. Our national economy went into a downward spiral. Wall Street was comatose. A new term was coined to describe this condition. It was termed a "national malaise". Ah...but forget this clear example of history. Forget even the "Great Depression" which Alan Greenspan has admitted was caused by the FED. We have the assurance of Jerry Mander that none of this is true. Jerryare you completely unaware that you are contradicting your own arguments? You are chasing your own tail! This is highly suspicious behavior especially for a proctologist! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE NUTTY PROFESSOR MANDER
CAT GOT YOUR KEYBOARD PROFESSOR? "Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States?" STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER.PROFESSOR. In a message dated 06/16/2000 10:37:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: " I explained the creation of money... Would you like me to post it again?" Yes professor, please do post it again. " The creation of money is accomplished initially by the deposit taking function and is then facilitated using the lending funtion subject only to reserve requirements..." You state in the above that money is created by "the deposit taking function". Professorplease explain just exactly what it is that is "deposited", and how "deposits" of whatever it is results in the "creation of money." You next state in the above that the creation of money is "facilitated" by the "lending function." Professor...please explain exactly what it is that is being lended in this lending function. Your stated position is that money is "created" by deposit taking and by lending. Again, the question is: The deposit of what and the lending of what? Next you write about: "reserve requirements (an FRB function that controls the growth of money)" No argument here professor. You are correct. The FED's "reserve requirement" is one of the controls on the growth of the money supply. Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? Regards, Nakano P.S. Professor, perhaps you may find some solace in that your guru, Rush Limbaugh, can't answer this simple question either. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: [Fwd: [CTRL] JFK vs THE FEDERAL RESERVE]]
Hello Joe, Thank you for forwarding the information on the United States Notes 1963 Series. I knew as fact that John Kennedy ordered the U.S. Treasury to print and issue the currency. I have seen and touched a couple of those $5. Bills myself. I have heard from various sources that the majority of the currency was never put into circulation and that nearly all of it was removed from circulation after the assassination. As to whether this was a factor in the assassination, as many believe, I don't know. I do know that after the assassination of Ngo Diem and his brother in South Vietnam (Nov. 2, 1963) Kennedy was determined to extricate the U.S. from Vietnam. He issued National Security Action Memorandum 263 which ordered all U.S. personnel out by the end of 1964. At the time Kennedy gave this order, there were only about 14,000 personnel in Vietnam. The first 1,000 U.S. military advisors were pulled out of Vietnam and had arrived at Subic Bay in the Phillipines by Nov. 22, 1963. While John Kennedy's body was lying in State in the U.S. Capitol Rotunda, Lyndon Johnson countermanded Kennedy's order. The 1,000 personnel at Subic were immediately sent back to Vietnam. There were followed by more than half a million U.S. Military personnel...58,000 of whom did not return alive. I believe this is why John Kennedy was murdered. He decided to actually be the Commander-in-Chief. He decided against further U.S. involvement in that war. As such, he was a obstacle to the plans of the cold minds who actually run the world. Regards, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] JFK vs THE FEDERAL RESERVE
MENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended - (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): "(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963 -- -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fractional Reserve Banking Fraud
year, $25 billion a year. "It's a non-trivial thing," Mr. Porter observes mildly. If two-thirds of those notes circulate abroad, then one-third ought to be here, i.e., F$152.49 billion. If that's so, then the banks are holding 28.95% of that circulation. The issue of how much dough there is (which is what I'm getting at) is complicated because the Fed figures don't break out "vault cash" into "coin" and "currency." I tried to get a figure on how much coin is in circulation, but I couldn't penetrate the adamantine barrier of the US Mint's voice mail. Once before I tried this futile exercise, so I don't think any of them has the least clue how much coin is circulating. The Mint folks may be good at stamping out coins, but don't ask them intricate conceptual questions like, "How much US coin is in circulation?" Their answers are simply too bizarre to recount. A WARNING The slice of cash - currency and coin - in the US money system is thinner than baloney at a cheap delicatessen. Banks hold less than a third of the currency, and that would cover only a tee-tiny 1.32% of their deposits if depositors ever wake from their coma and demand their dough. More and more people are hearing the recommendation to "withdraw a little extra cash out of the banks" to prepare for Y2K. If as many as 1.32% of bank depositors take their advice and withdraw all their money, the banks will close their doors. Y2K threatens to disrupt the electronic bank payments system. This system contributes about 90% of the US money supply. Without it, 10% of the money supply (the cash coin) must take over the work of the other 90%. Conclusion: Withdraw and stockpile some cash now. Shoot for at least three months' cash requirements. Don't wait. Start now. Franklin Sanders A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Motivating the Citizenry
NOTE: It is glaringly apparent that Professor Mander is incapable of carrying on a rational discussion. This is illustrated by the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: "In my post of a few days ago I explained the creation of money in a VERY simple example." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ First of all professor, YOU didn't explain anything. All you did was copy some information from the Indiana Purdue University website and post it to this List. It isn't YOUR explanation. Next thing professor, if you click on through 3 or 4 more pages on this same website, it directly confirms what I wrote in my previous post. I wrote: "THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE!" The university website of your choice states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system. Most of our money supply is created through bankâs making loans." The University website then goes on to say: "The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth." Do you comprehend what is being said here professor? It's as simple as 1,2,3. 1. "Money" is created when banks make loans of something that did not exist until the moment the loan was made. In reality, the banks loan some numbers entered into a computer. 2. This "creation of money" by banks does not create any wealth. 3. The banks are allowed to profit several times over even though they create nothing but debt via bookkeeping entries. What a fantastic fraud this is! The bank simply makes a few computer entries. It costs the bank almost nothing to do this. No wealth is created at this point. But the person who receives the loan must work and invest time, effort, talent, and abilities to create something of real wealth in order to pay back the loan of nothing more than a bookkeeping entry. The bank may make a bookkeeping entry (loan) in just a few minutes. But the person who must pay back the loan may have to work hard for years in order to pay this loan off. This is absolutely the slickest "something for nothing" racket ever conceived! But it gets even worse! Another slight-of-hand fraud is stacked on top of the something for nothing theft just described. Through the black magic of "Fractional Reserve Banking", banks are allowed to count loans (of nothing) as assets. These "assets" are counted as ""reserve requirements". The effect is that the banks are able to loan (create) many more "dollars" into existence. Yes indeed professor.as the University website states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system." And another thing professor: The University website you quoted from gives direct confirmation of something else I wrote. "The âFedâ is a privately owned institution" As usual professor, you ignore the facts. You also ignore the reasonable questions which I, and others, have raised and put to you. I specifically asked the following: Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? You ignore this question because you have no rational answer. You have only your opinions.and they are non-informed opinions at that. There is no point in continuing this discussion any further. There is no sport in mentally dueling with an unarmed man. Regards to All Nakano P.S. For anyone who cares to check out the Indiana-Purdue University website mentioned abovehere's the address. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm Money Creation with Fractional-Reserve Banking When a bank makes a loan (from itâs reserves) the money supply increases. When banks hold only a fraction of deposits in reserve, banks create money. The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and tho
[CTRL] THE FEDERAL RESERVE FRAUD
NOTE: It is glaringly apparent that Professor Mander is incapable of carrying on a rational discussion. This is illustrated by the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: "In my post of a few days ago I explained the creation of money in a VERY simple example." _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ First of all professor, YOU didn't explain anything. All you did was copy some information from the Indiana Purdue University website and post it to this List. It isn't YOUR explanation. Next thing professor, if you click on through 3 or 4 more pages on this same website, it directly confirms what I wrote in my previous post. I wrote: "THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE!" The university website of your choice states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system. Most of our money supply is created through bankâs making loans." The University website then goes on to say: "The creation of money through loans does not create any wealth, but allows banks to charge interest several times on the same bit of wealth." Do you comprehend what is being said here professor? It's as simple as 1,2,3. 1. "Money" is created when banks make loans of something that did not exist until the moment the loan was made. In reality, the banks loan some numbers entered into a computer. 2. This "creation of money" by banks does not create any wealth. 3. The banks are allowed to profit several times over even though they create nothing but debt via bookkeeping entries. What a fantastic fraud this is! The bank simply makes a few computer entries. It costs the bank almost nothing to do this. No wealth is created at this point. But the person who receives the loan must work and invest time, effort, talent, and abilities to create something of real wealth in order to pay back the loan of nothing more than a bookkeeping entry. The bank may make a bookkeeping entry (loan) in just a few minutes. But the person who must pay back the loan may have to work hard for years in order to pay this loan off. This is absolutely the slickest "something for nothing" racket ever conceived! But it gets even worse! Another slight-of-hand fraud is stacked on top of the something for nothing theft just described. Through the black magic of "Fractional Reserve Banking", banks are allowed to count loans (of nothing) as assets. These "assets" are counted as ""reserve requirements". The effect is that the banks are able to loan (create) many more "dollars" into existence. Yes indeed professor.as the University website states: "The United States Monetary System is a Debt-Based system." And another thing professor: The University website you quoted from gives direct confirmation of something else I wrote. "The âFedâ is a privately owned institution" As usual professor, you ignore the facts. You also ignore the reasonable questions which I, and others, have raised and put to you. I specifically asked the following: Since money is the lifeblood of a modern economy, it follows that whoever or whatever has control over the money supply, literally has life and death control over our national economy. Please explain why a privately owned corporation of bankers should have life and death control over the national economy of the United States? You ignore this question because you have no rational answer. You have only your opinions.and they are non-informed opinions at that. There is no point in continuing this discussion any further. There is no sport in mentally dueling with an unarmed man. Regards to All Nakano P.S. For anyone who cares to check out the Indiana-Purdue University website mentioned abovehere's the address. http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/nf1/bullion/web/Slides/Chap27/tsld020.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Motivating the Citizenry
In a message dated 06/16/2000 12:52:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Professor Jerry Mander writes: " the FRB has numerous other functions, including regulating the natural creation of money (which, thoretically, would be infinate without reserves) by the establishment of reserves, and several other functions." Professor Mander, you display a surprising amount of ignorance here. You write about "the natural creation of money". Just what is this in your opinion? What process of nature creates money? You apparently hold the same view that many children are accused of holding; namely, that money grows on trees. You write of paper money being printed. Granted that most people probably think of "money" in terms of the paper bills and coins in circulation; but cash is only a small part of what the Federal Reserve defines and measures as "money". Here it is in their own words: M1, M2, and M3 are progressively more inclusive measures of money: M1 is included in M2, which is included in M3. M1, the most narrowly defined measure, consists of the most liquid forms of money, namely currency and checkable deposits. The non-M1 components of M2 are primarily household holdings of savings deposits, time deposits, and retail money market mutual funds. The non-M2 components of M3 consist of institutional money funds and certain managed liabilities of depositories, namely large time deposits, repurchase agreements, and Eurodollars." THE FACT IS THAT NEARLY ALL OF WHAT IS DEFINED ABOVE AS "MONEY" IS BORROWED INTO EXISTENCE! When a person goes to their local bank to obtain a loan for a new car, the bank does not have the "money" sitting on a shelf in their safe. The bank does not have that money anywhere. When the bank customer signs the loan forms and the loan is approved, the bank makes some computerized bookkeeping entries and Shazam..the "money" suddenly appears in the customer's accountliterally from nowhere! THE "MONEY" DID NOT EXIST UNTIL THE BANK CUSTOMER BORROWED IT INTO EXISTENCE. THE "MONEY" ISN'T IN THE FORM OF CASH, IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN SOME NUMBERS ENTERED INTO A COMPUTER. SO NOW THE BANK CAN EARN INTEREST ON SOMETHING IT CREATED WITH SOME KEYSTROKES ON A COMPUTER. PRETTY NEAT RACKET HUH? BUT IT GET'S EVEN BETTER PROFESSOR. THE FED NOW LETS THE BANK COUNT THAT LOAN AS AN "ASSET". THE LOAN NOW COUNTS AS PART OF THE BANK'S "RESERVE". UNDER THE TOTALLY FRAUDULENT SYSTEM OF "FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING", THAT BANK CAN NOW CREATE MORE "MONEY" IN THE FORM OF NEW LOANS. UNDER THIS SYSTEM, THE BANK CAN NOW LOAN OUT 16 MORE DOLLARS FOR EVERY DOLLAR IT IS OWED UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LOAN MADE TO THE FIRST CUSTOMER IN THIS EXAMPLE. ISN'T THIS THE MOST FANTASTIC SCHEME IMAGINABLE? You write about: "the establishment of reserves" by the FED. These "reserves" are not money on deposit. The "reserves" are debts owed to the bank from loans made by the bank with "money" created out of thin air by computer entries! In various news reports, we sometimes hear the term "hard currency". For instance, Russia and China are often reported to be short of "hard currency". The truth is..there is no "hard currency" in the world today! Definitions: Currency - originally this term meant "current for coin" (gold or silver coin) Hard Currency - paper "Bearer Notes" backed by gold or silver. The currency was "hard" because it was backed by hard metal. Fact is that the U.S. Dollar isn't backed by anything other than the faith that people can spend it. THERE ARE NO GOLD OR SILVER RESERVES TO BACK U.S. CURRENCY! The U.S. went off the "gold standard" in 1933. At that time the "Promise to Pay Bearer on Demand" in gold was cancelled. The U.S. went off the "silver standard" in 1965. At that time the silver backing for U.S. paper money was removed. No hard currencies professor.not anymore. First the bankers promised to hold the people's gold and silver in a safe place and they issued paper "Bearer Notes" which could be redeemed in gold or silver. Then, the bankers cancelled the promise to redeem the paper notes with gold or silver. It's likely that in the next phase, the bankers will do away with the "paper money" completely. The next step they have planned for us is the "cashless society". Under this scheme, our "money" will be nothing more than electronic blips in computers. Just think professor.no more armed robberies. Nobody will hold up a bank or a convenience store to take the money. There won't be any money. Sound great? Consider that whoever has control of t
[CTRL] A BILL TO KILL THE FED
HR 1148 IH 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1148 To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES March 17, 1999 Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Banking and Financial Services -- -- A BILL To abolish the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks, to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act'. SEC. 2. FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD ABOLISHED. (a) IN GENERAL- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and each Federal reserve bank are hereby abolished. (b) REPEAL OF FEDERAL RESERVE ACT- Effective at the end of the 1-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Federal Reserve Act is hereby repealed. (c) DISPOSITION OF AFFAIRS- (1) MANAGEMENT DURING DISSOLUTION PERIOD- During the 1-year period referred to in subsection (a), the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System-- (A) shall, for the sole purpose of winding up the affairs of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks-- (i) manage the employees of the Board and each such bank and provide for the payment of compensation and benefits of any such employee which accrue before the position of such employee is abolished; and (ii) manage the assets and liabilities of the Board and each such bank until such assets and liabilities are liquidated or assumed by the Secretary of the Treasury in accordance with this subsection; and (B) may take such other action as may be necessary, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, to wind up the affairs of the Board and the Federal reserve banks. (2) LIQUIDATION OF ASSETS- (A) IN GENERAL- The Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall liquidate all assets of the Board and the Federal reserve banks in an orderly manner so as to achieve as expeditious a liquidation as may be practical while maximizing the return to the Treasury. (B) TRANSFER TO TREASURY- After satisfying all claims against the Board and any Federal reserve bank which are accepted by the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and redeeming the stock of such banks, the net proceeds of the liquidation under subparagraph (A) shall be transferred to the Secretary of the Treasury and deposited in the General Fund of the Treasury. (3) ASSUMPTION OF LIABILITIES- All outstanding liabilities of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks at the time such entities are abolished, including any liability for retirement and other benefits for former officers and employees of the Board or any such bank in accordance with employee retirement and benefit programs of the Board and any such bank, shall become the liability of the Secretary of the Treasury and shall be paid from amounts deposited in the general fund pursuant to paragraph (2) which are hereby appropriated for such purpose until all such liabilities are satisfied. (d) REPORT- At the end of the 18-month period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall submit a joint report to the Congress containing a detailed description of the actions taken to implement this Act and any actions or issues relating to such implementation that remain uncompleted or unresolved as of the date of the report. END A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="htt
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] WE LOSE OUR REPUBLIC BY FAILURE TO ACT
In a message dated 06/11/2000 2:03:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW: In real life I'm a CPA, have a law degree, flew Phantoms for three years in Vietnam, and am the former CFO of a LARGE bank. I can tell you a couple of FACTS about the 'bankers'. A: There is no secret cabal We would have liked one. It would make the job easier-- and more fun! B: The Fed has a LOT less ability to affect the money supply (and interest rates) then it is given credit for C: The 'unseen hand' (a term familiar to anyone with a basic understanding econ) is the TRUE driver. What's the unseen hand? It's the self interest of millions and millions of individuals, and it's ALWAYS been in control. The best protection for an ecomony is an educated populace. Not one fed tripe..." Professor Jerry Mander _ Roger that, Phantom Driver.call the ball! You say: "...the unseen hand...is the TRUE driver" and that his is: " the self interest of millions and millions of individuals, and it's ALWAYS been in control." So. The masses of people.the millions and millions of individuals have always been in control? Wrong, Professor. You get an "F" in history. You just flunked. If history teaches anything, it teaches that throughout all of recorded history; the many have been victimized, plundered, enslaved, and subjugated by the few. The masses of slaves of the ancient empires were not "in control". The masses of serfs in the age of feudalism were not "in control". The masses of wage slaves in the U.S. today are not "in control". Today, the masses of people live in an illusion. Because we have popular elections instead of kings who rule by "Devine Right".we think we control the government. This is the reason the illusion is maintained. People are much easier to control when they don't realize they are being controlled. People don't struggle to get out of a cage, when they can't find or see any bars. The masses have never been in control Professor. They never have been and they are not today. The Federal Reserve Act was secretively passed in the dark on the night before Christmas Eve 1913. The Conspirators in Congress who did the deed then rushed it over to the White House in the dark of night for Wilson to sign into law. No matter how you slice it or rationalize it; that was not the act of a government of, by, and for the people. Money and credit are the lifeblood of a modern society. The truth is that this lifeblood is under the control of a privately owned corporation of international bankers. They are unaccountable to We the People. The FED has never even been audited, even though several times Bills have been introduced in Congress to require this. The Pentagon is audited on a regular basis. The White House is audited. Every Federal Department and Agency is audited. The Federal Reserve is not. You say you are a CPA. This ought to shout something to you very loudly. You are correct on one count Professor, when you say: "The best protection for an ecomony is an educated populace. Not one fed tripe..." An educated populace would be wonderful. IF IT WERE EDUCATED WITH THE TRUTH! Our children are "educated" in government indoctrination centers. The alleged News Media is tightly controlled so that people are only fed the "official tripe". Even so, most Americans do understand they have never been told the truth about: the assassination of President Kennedy the assassination of Bobby Kennedy the assasination of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. the war in Vietnam (in which you say you participated) the massacre of the Branch Davidians in Waco the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City just to name a few. The list could fill a book.and Clinton has written at least an entire chapter all by himself. If you would know the truth, first you must respect power of illusion. Nothing is what it seems to be! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: htt
Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Lunch Program
In a message dated 06/08/2000 10:15:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 'Nobody has been able to find a better way to get them to FREE FOOD! Nobody has been able to find a better way to get them to.willingly put on the chains of slavery. This is the way it was done in America.why not the world? Drug pushers often use this same tactic. First they give away some "free samples". Then when they have the new customer "hooked" on the drug they have that person under their control. Years ago, the Federal Government began offering "free funding" of school lunch programs. The stated purpose was to make sure that no child in America went hungry at school. The School Districts were the real targets. They were the ones that got "hooked" on the "free money" from Washington. Once they were hooked, the government had them under control. Example: When the Federal Courts ordered massive bussing of students to achieve "racial balance" in the nation's schools, many school districts didn't want to comply. They were abruptly informed that if they did not obey, they would lose all Federal Funding including the money for the School Lunch Program. The result was that the nation's school districts shut up and obeyed. Same thing with the 55 MPH nationwide speed limit on all the highways a few years ago. Some states didn't want to reduce the limit to 55. But they quickly obeyed when they were threatened with the loss of all federal highway funding. So now Clinton is calling for a "Free Lunch Program" for the world. There is absolutely nothing in the U.S. Constitution that gives the Federal Government the power to use federal funds to pay for school lunches, even in our own country. There is less than absolutely nothing in our Constitution that give the government the power to fund a global free lunch program. Of course, Bill Clinton regards our Constitution as toilet paper and treats it accordingly. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/04/2000 10:39:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't forget that the Antarctica volcano, Mt. Erebus, is a major contributor of halogens to the Antarctic atmosphere. In 1991 Mt. Erebus produced 14,600 tons of HCl and 6,600 tons of HF. ## Good information Richard. Here's a fair comparison. If we let 1 gallon of water represent the total amount of chlorine in all the CFCs ever produced by man, then all the chlorine released by the oceans and by volcanoes over the last 200 years would be represented by the water in Lake Michigan! It is such a tiny amount in comparison to the chlorine that is released by natural processes, as to be meaningless. Consider that the Ozone Layer has continued to exist for millions of years in spite of eras of high volcanic activity and in spite of the massive quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans. Now we are supposed to believe that the CFCs in spraycans and in air conditioners is "destroying the ozone". It's totally laughable, once you know the facts. Trouble is, most folks get their information and their opinions from television. If Dan Rather, and Brokaw, and Jennings say it, then it must be true. Even worse.if they don't say it, then it can't be true. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Employment at the Vertical Bar Motel
In a message dated 06/05/2000 5:35:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ruthless dismantling of social welfare systems and the effects of global capitalism have dramatically changed the lives of millions of people. Many who previously just managed to get by on the fringes of the "social network" are now faced with destitution. ### This is a pre-planned process. This is a long-term process. In brief, here is how it works. For illustration, we'll use the United States starting in 1928. 1. The total tax burden on the average middleclass family is 3% of annual income. (Most families are single-income families). 2. There are virtually no federally funded "social programs". There are very few state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly self-suficient. Healthcare and dental care is affordable. Most families can afford to go to their family doctors and they can afford to go to the hospital. 4. Most Americans can afford to save money. The national savings rate is far higher than it will be 60 or 70 years later. 5. A high percentage of Americans can afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far higher than it will be 60 years later when many people will live in apartment houses and other rental properties. 6. Most Americans are relatively debt free (excluding home mortgages). Then, in the 1930s, the Federal government comes forward with many new "social programs". The government launches programs which offer to help people do the above listed things which they have traditionally done for themselves. These various programs begin at a modest level. But as time passes and people get used to the idea of "social programs", more and more such programs are added and expanded. Of course the government must increase taxes to pay for all of this. The people gripe about the taxes, but they have grown to embrace the "free" federal programs. Over a period of 2 generations the situation has changed dramatically. In the year 1998: 1. The total tax burden on the average middle-class family is over 50% of annual income. (Most families are now dual-income families). 2. There are almost countless federally funded "social programs". There are many state funded "social programs". 3. Most adult Americans are highly dependent on the government. Healthcare and dental care are not affordable. Most families can't afford to go to their family doctors and they can't afford to go to the hospital without expensive health and medical insurance coverage. 4. Most Americans can't afford to save money. The national savings rate is the lowest since records have been kept. 5. A high percentage of Americans can't afford to buy a home. The "owner occupancy rate" is far lower than it was 50 years ago. 6. Most Americans are in debt. (Even when excluding home mortgages). MOST PEOPLE HAVE BECOME HIGHLY DEPENDENT ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ONE IN EVERY FOUR PEOPLE IS RECEIVING FUNDS FROM THE GOVERNMENT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. ABOUT HALF THE SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE COUNTRY ARE GETTING "FREE" OR REDUCED-PRICE SCHOOL LUNCHES WHICH ARE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED. MILLIONS LIVE IN GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED HOUSING. AT THIS POINT THE TRAP IS SPRUNG!!! NOW COMES THE "RUTHLESS DISMANTLING OF SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS." BUT HERE IS THE REALLY CRUEL AND INSIDIOUS PART OF THE PLAN. THE HIGH TAX STRUCTURE PUT INTO PLACE TO PAY FOR THESE PROGRAMS IS KEPT IN PLACE. NOW THE PEOPLE ARE TRAPPED. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR ALL THE "FREE" THINGS THE GOVERNMENT WAS PROVIDING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL PAYING HALF OF THEIR INCOME TO THE GOVERNMENT. NOW THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR MONEY TO PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVESAND THEY DON'T HAVE THE "FREE" GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS EITHER!! THIS PLAN IS MUCH FURTHER ADVANCED IN CANADA THAN IN THE UNITED STATES. UNFORTUNATELY, WE ARE RAPIDLY CATCHING UP. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ==
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Price of Progress
In a message dated 06/05/2000 9:07:41 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: `We already know that about half of us die of cardiopulmonary disease, # Cardiopulmonary disease is the number one killer in the U.S. but it wasn't always so. Before 1910, heart and artery disease wasn't even a major cause of death. Obviously something changed. Something in the environment or some change in diet or nutrition changed. What was it? It wasn't because suddenly cities started having "smog". In industrial cities there was a lot of factory smoke and particulates, but not "smog" as it is constituted today with a lot of car exhaust fumes. What was it? At the time of World War I, major chemical companies started producing large amounts of chlorine. Chlorine is a highly poisonous gas. It was used as a weapon in the war. Starting about the time the war ended, U.S. cities started using chlorine to kill bacteria in public water supplies. It worked. Chlorine does kill germs. But it also does something else. Chlorine acts in combination with saturated fats to produce a hard coating on the inside of arteries and blood vessels. This coating is called "plaque". This causes "hardening of the arteries". It's also called "Cardiopulmonary disease" and/or atherosclerosis. And now you know.the rest of the story. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/04/2000 11:40:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can fill a balloon with dirt and it will fall to the ground too, but I have seen dust (dirt) in the air many times. a cold (hydrogen) balloon will not float cold smoke will not float but wind can pick up either one and carry it. I have lived in West Texas so I have certainly seen a lot of dust in the air. Yes the winds can lift things into the air which are heavier than air. However these heavier particles and molecules do settle out. If you fly much, you will notice that even on windy and dusty days, the dust is mostly below 10,000 ft. But this isn't even the point. Even if minute quantities of CFC gasses make it up to above 30,000 ft. the amount is absolutely unimportant. Why? Chlorine is the culprit. Chlorine is the first C in CFC. Chlorine is what destroys ozone on contact. Chlorine is produced is great quantities by the oceans. So much so, that the chlorine in all the CFCs ever produced is negligible in comparison. The Ozone Layer is extremely important to all life on earth. The Ozone Layer is being disturbed by manmade technology. But the Ozone Layer is not being harmed by CFCs. This is the "Cover Story" which has been fed to the public. It simply is not true. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bilderberg-participants, year 2000 in Belgium
In a message dated 06/04/2000 6:04:53 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The question is, then: Who are the Bilderbergers' employers? ### We know that there is no such thing as the Bilderbergers, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. (Many times) There is also no such thing as the Council on Foreign Relations, or if there is, we can be sure it's innocent and harmless, because Rush Limbaugh has told us so. What's funny is that Limbaugh openly states on the air, "You don't have to think...I will think for you and I will tell you what's important." So the "Dittoheads" let Rush think for them. Hey...Rush says there is no such thing as a "Conspiracy" and that anybody who thinks they exist is a total whacko. This sounds just like Professor Jerry Mander doesn't it? Notice Herr Henry Kissinger is once more in attendance at this meeting. (I think he's made about all of them) Let's not forget Kissinger's infamous quote from the Bilderberg Meeting in Evian France several years ago: "Today the people of Los Angeles would be outraged if U.N. troops were patrolling the streets of L.A. Tomorrow, they will be grateful." Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: There Goes the Ozone Layer
In a message dated 06/02/2000 11:51:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OZONE HOLE OVER ARCTIC SURPRISES RESEARCH TEAM by David Perlman, Science Editor San Francisco Chronicle, May 31, 2000 "The findings are surprising because scientists had expected that the protective ozone layer would recover after ozone-destroying chemicals known as chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, were banned by international treaty four years ago." __ THIS REPORT IS A LIE! IT IS PURE UNADULTERATED BULLHOCKEY! THIS ISN'T AN OPINION.IT IS A FACT! HERE IS THE TRUTH. CFC gasses (chlorofluorocarbons) are five time heavier than air. If you fill a balloon with CFC gas (Freon), tie off the balloon and then release the balloonIT WILL IMMEDIATELY FALL TO THE GROUND! It does not rise into the air as a balloon filled with helium will do. OK.so what? Soheavy CFC gas molecules do not rise high into the atmosphere and destroy the Ozone Layer which is 12 to 30 miles above the earth's surface. THERE ARE NO CFC GASSES 12 TO 30 MILES UP IN THE SKY! Even if some were intentionally released at high altitude, the CFC gas molecules would sink through the air back down to the earth's surface. Once there, they would find the lowest hole or crack they could sink into and stay there. This is basic laws of physics. CFC molecules are extremely stable. They do not readily break down. Then tend to remain intact. The last "C" in CFC stands for Carbon. Carbon is heavy. Carbon is the main reason that CFC molecules are much heavier than air. The following statement in this newspaper report is true but misleading: "Highly reactive chlorine can destroy ozone molecules on contact..." Correct. Chlorine does destroy ozone. However, the world's oceans naturally release millions of times more chlorine than all of the CFC gasses ever produced! Volcanoes also produce vast amounts of chlorine gas. One large volcano such as Mt. St. Helen's or Mt. Penitubo in the Phillipines, sprew vast amounts of chlorine gas into the air. But the ozone layer has existed for millions of years despite these large quantities of chlorine produced by the oceans and by volcanoes. SO WHY ARE WE BEING LIED TO ABOUT THIS?? WHY ARE FALSE AND MISLEADING NEWS STORIES LIKE THIS ONE BEING PUT OUT IN THE ALLEGED NEWS MEDIA? BECAUSE THE OZONE LAYER IS BEING DISTURBED AND AFFECTED AND A "COVER STORY" WAS NEEDED. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT IS AFFECTING THE OZONE LAYER, YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK: ANGELS DON'T PLAY THIS HAARP BY DR. NICK BEGICH. IT'S AVAILABLE FROM AMAZON.COM THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ABOUT HAARP CLEARLY STATES THAT IT'S PURPOSE IS: "...TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES". THINK ABOUT THAT! "TO CONTROL THE IONOSPHERE FOR MILITARY PURPOSES" THE OFFICIAL LITERATURE ALSO STATES THAT HAARP HAS A DESIGNED CAPABILITY TO "ALTER THE GAS COMPOSITION OF THE IONOSPHERE" NOW YOU KNOW...THE REST OF THE STORY! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE FREE PRESS--DEAD AND BURIED
Quoted From: John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc THE FREE PRESS--DEAD AND BURIED "What's one of the most distressing things to me is the ever-increasing degree to which the major news/information media have blatantly become a party to promulgating and fostering some of the most egregious and destructive of the many coverups, disinformation campaigns and distractive, meaningless manufactured news events which the covert government is disseminating, all for the purpose of diverting our energy and attention from significant--even vital--issues. In other words, we are getting almost pure crap from the mass media regarding almost any issue of any importance whatsoever--most certainly on any information which would tend to give the lie to those deeply embedded traditional concepts held on the part of a large percentage of humanity (including many North Americans); concepts which bolster the global position of the "powers that be" and to enable further exploitation of the human race." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DOES ANYONE CARE?
I'm guessing that several of you who contribute to this List have felt and experienced this. Regards to All Nakano _ "If you waste your time talkin to the people who don't listen to the things that you are sayin who do you think's gonna hear? And if you should die explainin how the things that they complain about are things they could be changin, who do you think's gonna care? They're been other lonely singers in a world turned deaf and blind who were crucified for what they tried to show. And their voices have been scattered by the swirling winds of time, cause the truth remains that no one wants to know." -Kris Kristofferson A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Cancer And The Constitution
u read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NYP: Morris-WHO KNOCKED OUT RUDY? (fwd)
In a message dated 05/22/2000 11:23:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons would never be so crass as to leave their fingerprints on this dirty trick. They would do it through one of their operatives, lawyers, donors, consultants, staffers or henchmen. Just like they always have. Woman after woman has been demonized by their secret police - usually on orders from Hillary - and have had their past dragged through the mud and leaked to the press to discredit their accounts of the president's sexually predatory practices. Did Rudy Giuliani fall victim to the same detectives who preyed on Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick, Dolly Kyle Browning, Elizabeth Ward Grayson? Did the Clintons' penchant for the politics of personal destruction ruin Giuliani's Senate bid just as it was once trained on the likes of Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde and Bob Barr? Journalistic ethics bar The Post from revealing who tipped them off, but reporters need to ask tough questions of other sources to try to learn who outed Rudy. Smearing with scandal is the Clintons' MO. When a politician running against a Clinton conveniently falls down so close to a nominating convention, we are entitled to probe who leaked the information that led to the knock-out punch. A year ago, Giuliani was riding high in political popularity. Even democrats had to admit he had been a effective mayor. The early polls, taken when Hillary first announced for the NY senate seat, showed Giuliani with a sizeable lead. But since then, it is as though the guy has been under a curse. It's been one bad thing after another. 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." When Bill Clinton has this sort of thing and much worse revealed, his popularity only increases. Gennifer Flowers comes forward and talks about their long-running affair, and it has no effect. Paula Jones.no effect. Kathleen Willeyno effect. Juanita Broaddrickno effect. (Broaddrick told a nationwide TV audience that Clinton had raped her. Clinton has never even bothered to deny it.) Does anyone remember Senator Gary Hart? His presidential campaign was ruined by a single photograph of a young woman, Donna Rice, sitting in his lap on the yacht "Monkey Business". But nothing sticks to Clinton "the comeback kid". Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments? Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". His testimony may well have led to a criminal indictment against Hillary, but of course that chance died with McDougal. It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/ar
[CTRL] 30 AIR FORCE SPRAY PLANES
Does anyone remember hearing this radio program? This was back in 1995, on the Art Bell "Coast to Coast" radio show. Art interviewed a guest who had written a book on the subject of money wasted by the government. He talked about $1,000. toilet seats and $500. hammers, the usual examples. Art Bell asked the guest if he had found an instance where it turned out not to be money wasted? The man replied: "Yes. I learned that the U.S. Air Force was equiping thirty 4 engined jet transports with agricultural type spray equipment. I thought at first this must be another boondoggle. So I asked the Air Force about it. The Air Force replied that these 30 jets with sprayers to fly a special mission. They were being prepared to spray chemicals at high altitude to absorb the CFC gasses that are destroying the ozone layer." I called in to the Art Bell Show and got on the air with Art and his guest. I told them the Air Force had given a false "cover story". My comments were about as follows: I am not giving you opinion but facts which you can check for yourself. Get a can of Freon (CFC gas). Fill a balloon with the gas and tie it off, like the helium-filled balloons we are familiar with. Thenrelease the balloon. It will immediately fall to the floor and stay there. Freon is about five times heavier than air. When released, it goes to the lowest level it can find. There are no CFC gases at 40,000 feet in the atmosphere. CFC gases are not high in the atmosphere destroying the ozone layer. Many scientist know about this and are willing to come forward and say so. The so-called news media will not give them any coverage. Sothe Air Force admitted the 30 jet spray planes. The question is: What are those planes really sprayingand why? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nealz Nuze Editorial
In a message dated 05/24/2000 6:31:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's Republican. The culprit is none other than Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah. _ His full name is Orrin Rodham Hatch..or it should be. And the search for "meth labs" is the lame excuse the BATF gave to then Texas Governor Ann Richards when they requested and got Texas Air National Guard helicopters for the raid on the Branch Davidians at Waco. Hey...if it worked once...why not tell the same lie again and again? The people never catch on. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Heston to Gore: Take My Gun 'From My Cold, Dead Hands'
In a message dated 05/22/2000 7:30:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: President Charlton Heston told a cheering crowd of 20,000 delegates to the 3.6-million-member National Rifle Association convention that this symbol of his Second Amendment right to gun ownership would be taken from him by Al Gore quot;from "my cold, dead hands." The cold minds engineering the One World Order fully intend to do what Charlton Heston has dared Gore to do. Gore is only a "front man". So is Bush. The dark forces behind them are determined to completely disarm the American People. For those of us who resist, they do indeed plan to pry our guns from our cold dead hands. That is the plan. Slaves must not be allowed to have weapons. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'the yellow-fringed flag'
In a message dated 05/21/2000 2:41:03 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "On March 5, 1998, Monterey County Municipal Court Judge Albert Maldonado, in the case of PEOPLE v ROBERT GARVIN MOORE, stated on the record that the yellow fringed flag displayed in his courtroom puts the court under Admiralty Jurisdiction." I have no objection to anyone burning a U.S. flag that has a gold fringe on it.in fact, I will light the match! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Giuliani, A string of bad luck??
NEW YORK ââ Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, his political ambitions derailed by prostate cancer and a nasty split with his wife, abandoned his Senate campaign against Hillary Rodham Clinton on Friday. ___ A year ago, Giuliani was riding high in political popularity. Even democrats had to admit he had been a effective mayor. The early polls, taken when Hillary first announced for the NY senate seat, showed Giuliani with a sizeable lead. But since then, it is as though the guy has been under a curse. It's been one bad thing after another. 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." When Bill Clinton has this sort of thing and much worse revealed, his popularity only increases. Jennifer Flowers comes forward and talks about their long-running affair, and it has no effect. Paula Jones...no effect. Catherine Willey.no effect. Juanita Broadrickno effect. (Broadrick told a nationwide TV audience that Clinton had raped her. Clinton has never even bothered to deny it.) Does anyone remember Senator Gary Hart? His presidential campaign was ruined by a single photograph of a young woman, Donna Rice, sitting in his lap on the yacht "Monkey Business". But nothing sticks to Clinton "the comeback kid". Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments? Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". His testimony may well have led to a criminal indictment against Hillary, but of course that chance died with McDougal. It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Hillary Saved by McDougal's Death [a must must must read]
" "The astonishing turn of events that spared the first lady from indictment." ASTONISHING EVENTS INDEED! Has anyone noticed the amazing "good luck" which has rescued Bill and Hillary time and again at critical moments. Or perhaps it would be more accurate to say has anyone noticed the incredible string of bad luck with has befallen many people who have opposed the Clintons or stood in their way? Jim McDougal died in solitary confinement just hours before he was scheduled to testify about "Whitewater". Hillary was well behind Mayor Rudolph Giuliani in the polls when 4 of New York's finest gunned down an unarmed black man in front of his home in New York. Giuliani's lead shrank considerably in the aftermath. Next, Mayor Giuliani was diagnosed with prostate cancer and his entire political future was suddenly in question. But Giuliani wouldn't quit. The final blow in the string of curses which befell him was " the announcement of plans for a legal separation from his wife of 16 years, Donna Hanover. Hanover retorted with her own bombshell, publicly accusing him of having had an affair with a former staffer." It seems that many people who have opposed Bill and Hillary have suddenly had an evil turn of fortunes just as if they had been cursed by some dark spiritual power. Those who are familiar with the long list of people connected with William Jefferson Clinton who have died under strange and mysterious circumstances should perhaps add Mayor Giuliani's political death to the list. Regards to All Nakano ___ "The astonishing turn of events that spared the first lady from indictment." "The biggest problem was the death a month earlier of Jim McDougal Without him, prosecutors would have a hard time describing the SL dealings they suspected Hillary Clinton had lied about." So when McDougal's jailers pulled him out of his regular cell for a drug test that chilly Texas Saturday night, they inadvertently did Mrs. Clinton a huge favor. "...guards tossed the key Whitewater witness into solitary confinement - after confiscating his heart drugs. Fellow inmates told McDougal biographer Curtis Wilkie that guards ignored the dying man's cries for help as he lapsed into cardiac arrest that night. At 10:30 a.m. guards "discovered" his body. Jim McDougal would never testify again. Two years later Mrs. Clinton, instead of planning her legal defense strategy, is strategizing on how to extend the Clinton era well into the 21st Century. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Half Million Moms March
Yesterday was Mother's Day. Depending on who's figures you believe, somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 mothers (and others) spent their day in an effort to "reeducate" Americans as to the critical need for more rigid and restrictive gun laws. Their rhetoric was predictably inaccurate and misleading. The moms simply ignore hard statistical data from sources such as the FBI's Uniform Crime Report and the National Safety Council. The Mom's Day speakers told the crowd that: "12 children are shot and killed every day in America." According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the figure is actually 1.7 deaths per day. While 110 children ages 1-14 died from gun accidents in 1998, 200 suffocated from ingested objects, 570 died from burns, 850 drowned, and 2,600 died in car accidents. The National Safety Council reports firearm accidents are at the lowest ever recorded, totaling 900 â down from 2,513 in 1974 Since 1993, the number of crimes committed with firearms has declined, falling to levels last experienced in the mid 1980s. The National Crime Survey (NCS) estimates that there are about 5.4 million violent crimes (both reported and unreported) and that guns of all types are involved in some 650,000 or 12 percent. In other words, 88 percent of violent crimes do not involve firearms. Homicide rates recently declined to levels last seen in the late 1960's. So what is all this hysteria about? It is about disarming the People of America. It should be clearly understood that this is the agenda of the forces behind the antigun movement. Most of the mothers who marched yesterday are, no doubt, sinceremisguided, but sincere. But the cold minds behind the program to disarm us have no such sincere and well-intentioned motives. The people of America have always been armed. We were armed before there was a central government in Washington. Whey are they afraid for us to be armed now? What are they planning that they dare not reveal until we are defenseless? Regards to All Nakano http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HALF MILLION MOM MARCH
Yesterday was Mother's Day. Depending on who's figures you believe, somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000 mothers (and others) spent their day in an effort to "reeducate" Americans as to the critical need for more rigid and restrictive gun laws. Their rhetoric was predictably inaccurate and misleading. Listening to some of the speakers, one wonders if their bra size is larger than their IQ. The moms simply ignore hard statistical data from sources such as the FBI's Uniform Crime Report and the National Safety Council. The Mom's Day speakers told the crowd that: "12 children are shot and killed every day in America." According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the figure is actually 1.7 deaths per day. While 110 children ages 1-14 died from gun accidents in 1998, 200 suffocated from ingested objects, 570 died from burns, 850 drowned, and 2,600 died in car accidents. The National Safety Council reports firearm accidents are at the lowest ever recorded, totaling 900 â down from 2,513 in 1974 Since 1993, the number of crimes committed with firearms has declined, falling to levels last experienced in the mid 1980s. The National Crime Survey (NCS) estimates that there are about 5.4 million violent crimes (both reported and unreported) and that guns of all types are involved in some 650,000 or 12 percent. In other words, 88 percent of violent crimes do not involve firearms. Homicide rates recently declined to levels last seen in the late 1960's. So what is all this hysteria about? It is about disarming the People of America. It should be clearly understood that this is the agenda of the forces behind the antigun movement. Most of the mothers who marched yesterday are, no doubt, sinceremisguided, but sincere. But the cold minds behind the program to disarm us have no such sincere and well-intentioned motives. The people of America have always been armed. We were armed before there was a central government in Washington. Whey are they afraid for us to be armed now? What are they planning that they dare not reveal until we are defenseless? Regards to All Nakano Reference: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/welcome.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nonconsensual Brainwave/Personality Studies
In a message dated 05/13/2000 10:57:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. RFR and chemtrails? _ CHEMTRAILS AND SPEED OF LIGHT WEAPONS Fact: The chemtrails are real. But the question is..."Why are they spraying?" This may be the answer: "...The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host." And so, how is the RFR introduced on a large-scale, perhaps hemisphere-wide...or even world-wide basis? HAARP and several other known such facilities around the world! The following are quotes from the book: "Angels Dont Play This HAARP" by Nich Begich. This may seem like a long email, but it's a lot shorter than the book. I am including here just the most pertinent information. __ the "...enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals" "Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected (body) organ sites." "...We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think " Page l84. Note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world. Captain Paul Tyler wrote a chapter in "Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology and points to applications which may already be somewhat developed. He points out that the uses of radio-frequency radiation may include enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals. these could be A SENSORY OR SUPER-NORMAL PHENOMENA. Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected organ sites.These studies will require prudent extrapolation of physical and physiological data obtained from laboratory animals to humans in operational environments. The l982 Air Force report called for the research to be done so that the Air Force could develop hardware so that the radiation could be delivered through new weapons. A research publication commissioned by the Air Force - "Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook' described these models in time to meet the schedules they had put forward in 1982. The book gives mathematics for calculating the dosages (Dosimetry) of radio frequency radiation necessary to cause changes in animals and humans. ...This book compiled research spanning five decades and contains a bibliography which is 29 pages long. ...(page l85).More importantly the research behind it is being used to develop better methods of killing. Purpose; To change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system (Page l85). The l982 Air Force report covering the use of radio frequency radiation in the new weapon systems contemplated by the Air Force was intended to change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system. We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think in order to make the "enemy" of the government incapable of waging war. .. Page l86: The fact that these technologies are classified and hidden from the medical community denies humanity the opportunity to explore these areas for healing people rather than for destructive purposes. The report speaks about using this technology in a way which could interact with biological or chemical agentsit states: "It may be possible to sensitize large military groups to extremely dispersed amounts of biological and chemical agentsIt should be noted that this may require relatively low level RFR. The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host. This would allow individuals who are not exposed to the chemicals to then enter the area of the RFR without harm to their own bodies. When an operator tunes the RFR in just the right way, changes are caused in the energy state of atoms, which cause chemical reactions in the body, which in turn manifest as physiological or psychological changes. The introduction of small amounts of chemicals is a very important concept when cyclotron resonance is considered. The HAARP transmitter uses cyclotron resonance in radiating its energy transmissions into the atmosphere. The
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Montauk victim interview
The following is the most profoundly important message I have seen on this LIST. It needs to be read and reread carefully. The vibrational frequencies of evil and darkness are growing all around us. Even those who have no understanding of these realities are able to sense it. It absolutely does go all the way back to the eternal conflict between light and darkness, good and evil. The "dark forces in power of the planet at this time" are working in a frenzy to achieve a dimensional shift. You must be aware and respect the power of illusion. Nothing is what it seems to be. Regards to All Nakano _ "AP: For those who want to get out of the influence of the programs of mind control, you must have a strong fighting instinct to do what is right regardless of what others are doing. Your only cage is the one you build for yourself. You must connect with your highest self to break the evil that is all around us, and not succumb to doing evil just because everyone else is doing it. Retain your fundamental sense of right and wrong. It all goes back to the basic conflict basic good and evil. It is like the dark forces in power of the planet at this time are trying to cheat their way into heaven or higher dimensions." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GUN SALES HALTED IN U.S.!
ALL RETAIL GUN SALES IN THE U.S. HAVE BEEN STOPPED! THINK ABOUT IT. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE MEMORY OF MOST AMERICANS YOU CAN'T GO TO A GUN DEALER AND BUY A GUN. THIS APPLIES TO ANY TYPE OF GUN. YOU CAN'T BUY A RIFLE OR A SHOTGUN. FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. PICK UP YOUR TELEPHONE AND CALL A LOCAL GUN DEALER. IF YOU CAN FIND ONE OPEN FOR BUSINESS, ASK THEM IF YOU CAN COME IN A PURCHASE A GUN. THE ANSWER IS "NO". THERE ARE VARIOUS EXPLANATIONS SUCH AS THE FBI COMPUTERS HAVE A "GLITCH". UNOFFICIAL REPORTS SAY THAT GUN SALES WILL RETURN TO NORMAL IN 2 OR 3 DAYS. PERHAPS THEY WILL. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY HAVE SAID OR THOUGHT "THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN AMERICA" LOOK AT HOW EASILY THE GOVERNMENT CAN HALT THE SALE OF GUNS. THEY CAN DO IT ANYTIME THEY WISH. DOES ANYONE FEEL SAFER BECAUSE OF THIS? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] Fwd: All the prop. is going for banning all firearms
CORRECTED COPY In a message dated 05/13/2000 9:13:13 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Delegates to the quadrennial General Conference of the United Methodist Church voted by a 3-1 ratio to call on the federal government and other governments to outlaw "ownership by the general public of handguns, assault weapons, automatic weapon conversion kits and weapons that cannot be detected by traditionally used metal detection devices." __ Too bad that a delegate to the Methodist Conference didn't make the following proposal. Let everyone who wants to ban private gun ownership put up a large sign in front of their home worded as follows: "NO FIREARMS ARE PERMITTED IN THIS HOME. THE PEOPLE HERE ARE UNARMED." Those who are in favor of private gun ownership would put up a large sign in front of their homes worded as follows: "THIS HOME IS PROTECTED BY FIREARMS. THE OCCUPANTS ARE ARMED." Let's say this was done by law all over the country. Everyone had to have one sign or the other. Which homes do you think the crooks would go and rob? Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Ruling Cabal
d nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ============ Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [HELP] Waco Tank Driver Deaths? (fwd)
In a message dated 05/10/2000 2:55:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "the conspiracy that killed the people at Mount Carmel on April 19th 1993. Includes three National Guard personal that drove the tanks during the siege." And here is something at least as bizarre as the dead tank drivers. The following has been reported almost from day one of the events at Waco...but reported only by the "underground media" and never by the alleged national news media. Four BATF agents were killed in the initial assault on the Davidian Church in February of 1993. Each of the agents had served as bodyguards for Bill Clinton during the primaries and first general election in which he was elected president. Videotape taken life at the scene during the raid clearly showed agents climb up a ladder to get on the roof. One agent laid down on the roof with his weapon in a ready position, while 2 or 3 other agents smashed out a second story bedroom window. They climbed in through the window. Then the other agent who was still lying on the roof outside the window, got up and went to the window. He threw something inside and then fired into the room with his automatic or semiauto rifle. At that point about 4 or 5 holes suddenly appeared in the wall. This may have been gunfire from inside or shrapnel from an explosion, as from a grenade. The point is, he clearly fired in through the window and into the room that 2 or 3 agents had just entered! I have seen that tape many times. Local television stations in Austin, Texas broadcast that video repeatedly the day of the raid and for a week thereafter. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Boom times (was):sending ur kid
In a message dated 05/07/2000 9:00:14 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Coca-cola from a machine cost fifteen cents. Phone calls cost a dime. If this system is so great, how come economic life has been getting steadily worse since before most people were born? If we are really in an economic boom (as the media tells us) how come the typical couple works 70 hours a week to make ends meet? I think these are not boom times, at least not for workers. I think that the media lies. ___ Thank you for sharing this information. Those of us old enough to remember what life in America used to be, need to keep reminding those not old enough to have a perspective on the present state of affairs. I'm older than you. When I was a kid, gas was 22 cents a gallon and for a Quarter you could go to a Saturday morning double feature movie which included a bag of popcorn and a soda! When most people hear these price comparisons they just shrug and say something like: "Well yes things were cheaper way back then. We've had "inflation" but people didn't get paid nearly as much as they do now.it's all relative." THERE IS SOMETHING VITALLY IMPORTANT WHICH NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD HERE! OUR MONEY HAS BEEN DEVALUED! There is a huge difference between inflation and currency devaluation. For example: Let's take an honest hardworking man...let's say a carpenter, and we'll call him Joe. Joe graduated from high school in 1947 and started working. He was a good reliable worker and times were good. The home construction industry was booming. Joe was careful to save 10 percent of his pay because he knew that someday he would need it for retirement. Joe didn't trust banks because of the stories his parents had told him about the Great Depression. So he put a safe in the floor of his basement and kept his savings there. The years went by and Joe saved 10 percent of all he earned. Wages slowly increased over time, so he earned more, but he noticed that taxes and prices went up a little faster than his earnings. Even though it got harder and harder to save money, Joe did without other things so he could save 10 percent of what he made. Joe worked hard for 47 years. He had a heart attack at age 66. Joe decided it was time to retire. He owned his home "free and clear". Joe had earned about one million dollars in his 47 years. He saved almost exactly $100,000. 10 percent of his earnings. But Joe made a very grim discovery. THE DOLLARS HE HAD PUT IN HIS SAFE HAD SHRUNK! A dollar Joe put in his safe in 1950, was now worth only about 8 cents! It was as if someone had broken into his safe and stolen 92 cents out of every dollar he had saved that year. The dollar he put in his safe in 1960, was now worth only 10 cents! The effect was exactly the same as if Joe had been robbed of his hard-earned money. In 1960, Joe earned $410. a month. By 1970, Joe's pay had doubled to $820 a month. By 1980, Joe's pay had more than doubled up to $2,000. a month By 1990, Joe's pay had more than doubled again...up to $4,500 a month. This may appear to look good on paper, but the sad reality is that taxes and prices went up even faster than Joe's pay. Joe had more "disposable income" in 1960 than he had in 1990. In fact, the property taxes on Joe's home had increased over the years to the point that when Joe retired in 1995, his property taxes were higher than his house payment had been on his 30 year mortgage! The $100,000. in life savings would have been a comfortable retirement fund in 1950. Today it will provide a poverty-level income for about 4 years. Joe realized he could not afford to pay the property taxes on the home he thought he owned "free and clear". He also realized his $100,000 savings wasn't going to last very long. Joe had no choice but to sell his home and move into a lower priced home in an area where taxes were also less. Joe also realized that even with Social Security added to his savings, his retirement years wern't going to be "golden". How can this be? How can it be that in America, the richest country in the world, that people can work hard all their lives and end up broke? The brutal truth is: We have been robbed! And we continue to be robbed! According to Biblical Law and our Constitution, we are supposed to have a dollar which is a "fixed standard of value". If we had such a "fixed standard", then the dollars Joe saved in 1950 would be worth the same today as then. Joe was robbed, just as if a thief had broken in and taken his money. If it had happened that way, Joe would have understood what happened. But because he was robbed slowly over time by another method, he doesn't understand. Americans are now going broke on the amount of money they used to dream about making. This is because of the twin robbers of currency devaluation and high taxes. Right now we are h
Re: [CTRL] WND: Retired general's advice
In a message dated 05/06/2000 12:50:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sex and perjury were the wrong impeachment offenses. It should have been on his treachery and failure to live up to his oath of office." -- U.S. Army Gen. Albion Knight, Jr. (Ret.) __ Yes these were the wrong chargesthe question is: Why were these the charges? Why weren't the right charges brought against him? Implicit in these questions is another question: Why wasn't there a real trial with witnesses in the Senate? Every lawyer who has ever handled a traffic ticket for a client knows and understands "Why?" Here is a description of the deal that was made to get Clinton "off the hook". To illustrate - let's say you get a speeding ticket. They clocked you on radar...you were 20 MPH over the limit. They've gotcha. So you call a lawyer who handles tickets and turn it over to him or her. The lawyer simply makes a standard deal with the traffic court, it's done all over the country every day. 1. The Court changes the charge against you from speeding to a "non-moving violation". 2. The lawyer enters an automatic guilty plea. 3. You pay the fine for the non-moving violation and of course you pay the lawyer for "fixing" your ticket. So, the Court got paid.the lawyer got paid.and you benefitted because non-moving violations don't make your insurance rates go up. The House and the Senate simply played a variation of this game. They let Clinton plead guilty to a "non-impeachable offense". Let that sink in for a moment. They made all kinds of speechesdid all kinds of blustering and posturing in front of the cameras.but they made a deal to let Clinton plead guilty to a "non-impeachable offense" just like the "non-moving violation". There is nothing in our Constitution about presidents having sex with interns in the Oval Office. So the so-called news media focused attention entirely on Clinton's sexual adventures with Monica.and the public ate it up! The evening TV news and the papers made it seem like Monica was the entire story. It was even better than the daytime TV Soap Operas. The attitude of most people was: "They shouldn't remove Clinton from office for having sex with Monica nor for lying about it." This prevailing attitude made it easy for Congress to let him off. So Clinton went on TV and admitted he had "mislead people". He said he was sorry. Notice that he never did really come out and confess, he just made some oblique references. That was his "guilty plea" to the "non-impeachable offense". Remember that many senators repeated these very words. They made speeches about Clinton's "reprehensible behavior", but said it did not constitute an impeachable offense. General Knight nails it when he said these were the wrong charges. They absolutely were. It was planned that way. And it worked like a charm. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] sending ur kid 2 'public' school is Child Abuse
In a message dated 05/06/2000 7:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Parents: Wake Up!! THE WHOLE FUTURE OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!! You have four alternatives to educate your children: ___ Home School"if one parent doesn't have to work..." Private School..."if you've got the bucks" First I want to assure you I agree fully with you. This is not an argument, but an explanation. According to official information from the Congressional Budget Office: In 1950, most American families were single income families. The prevailing pattern was that dad worked and provided the income to support the family and mom was home with the children and running the household. (This is arguably the most important job in the world). Single income families had a good standard of living. HOW COULD THEY DO THAT IN 1950? WHY CAN'T THEY DO THAT NOW? HERE'S WHY! In 1950, the average American family paid only FIVE PERCENT of its annual income for taxes! That's a total of 5 percent of annual income for all taxes including local, state and federal! Today, the average family pays over half of its income for taxes! Read that again! TODAY, THE AVERAGE FAMILY PAYS OVER ONE HALF OF ITS ANNUAL INCOME FOR TAXES!!! THIS IS WHY MOST FAMILIES TODAY ARE DUAL INCOME FAMILIES. ONE SPOUSE WORKS TO PAY THE TAXES, ONE SPOUSE WORKS TO PAY THE FAMILY'S BILLS AND EXPENSES. On top of the above reality, the government indoctrination centers (commonly called public schools), and the national media have spread the doctrine that there is something wrong with a woman who doesn't have a career outside the home. So for a high percentage of families, homeschooling presents some nearly insurmountable obstacles. And with half of the income going to all taxes in various forms, only a small percentage have the money for private schooling. Mandatory public schooling is the 10th Plank of The Communist Manifesto. And most people think it's as American as apple pie. I applaud and salute all parents who homeschool their children. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] global gag rule
Actually Duncan - whilst those figures are subject to contention - try calling those killings "genocide" and one is legally wrong as mass murder for political reasons was apparently absent from the relevant UN Convention thanks to pressure from those same enlightened socialists around the time it was first concocted. But commit the odious act of causing "mental harm" against a racial or ethnic group and then one is a genocidal brigand according to the Convention It's a funny world. BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Rhodes- S G Millin 2
THERE is a photograph of Rhodes which shows him at the age of about twenty. In this photograph the face is thin and delicate, it is a face very different from the big, ruthless, powerful face of the later Rhodes. The transformation into the "later Rhodes" with the "big ruthless face" was the product of serious heart condition. A good explanation can be found in Rotberg's rather impressive bio "The Founder." BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Nexus Paranoia from Dunks
I've been collecting Nexus since 1990 and it is from my point of view distressingly bereft of controversial political commentary. New Dawn, which has run articles extolling the virtues of North Korea and Stalin as well as a smattering of more typical conspiracy stuff, is far more political. Nexus fits into many sections of the newsagency, but it doesn't belong amongst the political mags... BD. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] No politics in NEXUS Magazine?
Well now, to be "controversial", political commentary does not have to fit it into the much abused "left/right paradigm" - which seems to be the favoured terminology that some wags use to illustrate their supposed elevation above the fray although in reality they are not. In fact your assertions that "both left wing and right wing political machines are manipulated by people who are into power, money and control" and that politics is "mindless idiocy" seems like rather controversial political comment to me. Every article you print on the CFR or Bilderbergers or Illuminati or other allegations about cabals is pretty damn controversial as it conflicts with what the media tends to gloss over for various and it most certainly is about politics. My gripe is that there isn't enough of it! BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [slick-d] THE BAY OF PIGS
In a message dated 05/01/2000 10:25:27 PM Central Daylight Time, JCC21K writes: In a message dated 04/30/2000 10:23:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 04/30/2000 4:26:16 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: shouldn't Congress be doing something about negating these? Why are they allowing presidents to abuse power? And how did our presidents get so much power to begin with? __ Hello Sherry, The answer to your first question is "Yes!" The answer as to "why" they haven't done anything and are not doing anything is not easily answered. There is no single answer, but I think the roots of it are fear and greed. But, if you focus on your last question "How?" there is much solid information to be mined. Please read carefully the following excerpts from Franklin Roosevelt's first Inaugural Speech. FDR plainly stated his intentions. Remember that at that moment in 1933, the darkness of deep and serious depression covered the land. The American People were desperate. Events had been orchestrated so they would be desperate and receptive to Roosevelt's "New Deal". This is the answer as to "How it was done". Regards to All Nakano Franklin Delano Roosevelt's 1st Inaugural by Franklin Delano Roosevelt President Hoover, Mr. Chief Justice, my friends: This is a day of national consecration, and I am certain that my fellow-Americans expect that on my induction into the Presidency I will address them with a candor and a decision which the present situation of our nation impels. This is pre-eminently the time to speak the truth, the whole truth, frankly and boldly. Nor need we shrink from honestly facing conditions in our country today. This great nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So first of all let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear. . .is fear itself. . . nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days. In such a spirit on my part and on yours we face our common difficulties. They concern, thank God, only material things. Values have shrunken to fantastic levels: taxes have risen, our ability to pay has fallen, government of all kinds is faced by serious curtailment of income, the means of exchange are frozen in the currents of trade, the withered leaves of industrial enterprise lie on every side, farmers find no markets for their produce, the savings of many years in thousands of families are gone. More important, a host of unemployed citizens face the grim problem of existence, and an equally great number toil with little return. Only a foolish optimist can deny the dark realities of the moment. Yet our distress comes from no failure of substance. We are stricken by no plague of locusts. Compared with the perils which our forefathers conquered because they believed and were not afraid, we have still much to be thankful for. Nature still offers her bounty and human efforts have multiplied it. Plenty is at our doorstep, but a generous use of it languishes in the very sight of the supply. Primarily, this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind's goods have failed through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failures and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men. True, they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit, they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored conditions. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish. The money changers have fled their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. Our Constitution is so simple and practical that it is possible always to meet extraordinary needs by changes in emphasis and arrangement without loss of essential form. That is why our constitutional system has proved itself the most superbly enduring political mechanism the modern world has produced. It has met every stress of vast expansion of territory, of foreign wars, of bitter internal strife, of world relations. It is to be hoped that the normal balance of executive and legislative authorit
Re: [CTRL] Who wrote this?
I can't help you out on where this came from, but this is great stuff! I am not arguing at all with whoever wrote this, but I do want to offer one correction. It's about this: "...Do your Revisionist History Books Forget to Mention the Japanese Attacked Pearl Harbor without any Probvocation." Japan was provoked and prodded into the attack on Pearl Harbor. A few historical notes. 1. At least 6 months prior to Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt halted U.S. oil exports to Japan. (Japan has no domestic oil. Denial of a vital strategic resource is an act of war. We went to war against Iraq on just the possibility that arab oil would be cut off...it never was.) 2. Several months prior to Pearl Harbor, Roosevelt closed the Panama Canal to Japanese shipping. This vital waterway was supposed to be guaranteed open for the use of all nations. 3. The final straw was when Roosevelt delivered an ultimatum demanding that the Japanese get their military forces out of Manchuria. Roosevelt had campaigned for his third term as the "peace candidate". He said: "I am not about to send your sons to fight and die in another european war." Public opinion was very strongly against the U.S. entering the war. Roosevelt's problem was how to turn this around? How could he not only change the peoples minds, but actually get large numbers of Americans to actually DEMAND WAR? PEARL HARBOR!THE DAY OF INFAMY! The U.S. had broken the Japanese Imperial Code around a year before Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt and his inner circle not only knew the Japanese fleet was coming.THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY! Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] HAARP/ELF Induced Air Travel Actions (IATA)
In a message dated 04/30/2000 12:13:20 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In depth testing of representative 'safety-of-flight-critical' avionics by the Boeing Company has revealed that navigational and communications equiprment will malfunction when they come under the influence of artificial ELF magnetic and voltage fields. . PRECISELY! EVEN VERY SMALL MAGNETIC AND VOLTAGE FIELDS CAN CAUSE MALFUNCTION OF CRITICAL NAVIGATION ELECTRONICS ON AIRCRAFT. THIS IS WHY THEY MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR PASSENGERS TO TURN OFF THEIR LAPTOPS AND PHONES PRIOR TO LANDINGS. NOWIF VERY SMALL MAGNETIC AND VOLTAGE FIELDS CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS, JUST IMAGINE WHAT ONE BILLION WATTS OF EFFECTIVE RADIATED POWER CAN DO TO AN AIRLINER! HASN'T THERE BEEN AN UNUSUAL NUMBER OF STRANGE AIR DISASTERS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS? THE CRASH OF SEC. OF COMMERCE RON BROWN'S PLANE? (THAT WAS BLAMED ON "NAVAGATIONAL ERROR") TWA FLIGHT 800? KAL 801? SWISSAIR MD-11 FLIGHT 111? EGYPT AIR 990? (MYSTERIOUSLY PLUNGED INTO THE OCEAN) HAARP IS PLANNED TO HAVE POWER INCREASED TO 4.7 BILLION WATTS!! IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES AROUND THE WORLD AND MORE UNDER CONSTRUCTION! STRANGE STUFF!! REGARDS TO ALL NAKANO A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Is Elian Being Used to Divert Attention from State Dept. Security ...
Has the White House "diverted attention"? Of course.this is standard operating policy. But there is far more involved than covering up the theft of a laptopvastly more. And it isn't just the White House. The alleged "news media" is the instrument which creates the illusion the public accepts as reality. For the last 4 weeks the national "news media" has been totally focused on the story of 6 year old Elian Gonzales. It's been on the covers of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks are devoting half of their evening news to this one story. Four years ago on this date, the national "news media" was totally focused on another child.a 7 year old girl. It made the cover of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks were devoting half of their evening news to this one story.remember? 7-year-old flier's funeral ends the saga April 15, 1996 PESCADERO, California (CNN) -- Accompanied by a throng of media photographers, friends and relatives of 7-year-old Jessica Dubroff gathered to say goodbye to the little girl who dreamed of flying a small plane across the country. Dubroff's dream ended Thursday when her Cessna Cardinal 177 crashed shortly after take-off from Cheyenne, Wyoming. Jessica, her father and flight instructor were killed in the crash. Other "news stories" the national media have been totally focused on include: The murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey. The O.J. Simpson murder trial. The death of Princess Diane. The Lorena Bobbit husband castration episode. The Tonya Harding vs Nancy Kerrigan ice skating feud. The William Kennedy Smith rape trial. The Anita Hill charges against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas. The murder of homosexual Matthew Shepherd. And of course the endless news stories about Clinton and Monica Lewinski, including the congressional hearings and the impeachment trial. Americans love Soap Opera melodrama. The "news media" is only too happy to keep "totally focused" on whatever it can find and pump up to hold the public's attention. And while America is "totally focused" on little Elian or big Monica, the real newsthe events of real importance to the life of this nation and the world, go totally unreported. We are a nation of sleepwalkers. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ======== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Electronic Mind Control
In a message dated 04/29/2000 2:32:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Always run down and irritable? Not feeling yourself? Well maybe that's because you're not yourself, rather, you are being controlled from somewhere else by someone or something else. I just found some really intriguing information in Nich Begich's book which may explain the "CHEMTRAILS"and at least a partial explanation about one of the functions of HAARP. Fact: The chemtrails are real...I have seen them many times and they have been photographed all over north America. But the question is..."Why are they spraying?" This may be the answer: "...The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host." And so, how is the RFR introduced on a large-scale, perhaps hemisphere-wide...or even world-wide basis? HAARP and the several other known such facilities around the world! Regards to All Nakano (Quotes from "Angels Don't Play This HAARP" by Dr. Nick Begich the "...enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals" "Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected (body) organ sites." "...We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think " Page l84. Note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world. Captain Paul Tyler wrote a chapter in "Low-Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology and points to applications which may already be somewhat developed. He points out that the uses of radio-frequency radiation may include enhancement of 'anomalous phenomena' in individuals. these could be A SENSORY OR SUPER-NORMAL PHENOMENA. Techniques are needed to deposit RFR (radio frequency radiation) effects at selected organ sites.These studies will require prudent extrapolation of physical and physiological data obtained from laboratory animals to humans in operational environments. The l982 Air Force report called for the research to be done so that the Air Force could develop hardware so that the radiation could be delivered through new weapons. A research publication commissioned by the Air Force - "Radio Frequency Dosimetry Handbook' described these models in time to meet the schedules they had put forward in 1982. The book gives mathematics for calculating the dosages (Dosimetry) of radio frequency radiation necessary to cause changes in animals and humans. ...This book compiled research spanning five decades and contains a bibliography which is 29 pages long. ...(page l85).More importantly the research behind it is being used to develop better methods of killing. Purpose; To change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system (Page l85). The l982 Air Force report covering the use of radio frequency radiation in the new weapon systems contemplated by the Air Force was intended to change the central nervous system, cardiovascular system and the respiratory system. We were distressed to read about the idea of using this technology to alter the way people think in order to make the "enemy" of the government incapable of waging war. .. Page l86: The fact that these technologies are classified and hidden from the medical community denies humanity the opportunity to explore these areas for healing people rather than for destructive purposes. The report speaks about using this technology in a way which could interact with biological or chemical agentsit states: "It may be possible to sensitize large military groups to extremely dispersed amounts of biological and chemical agentsIt should be noted that this may require relatively low level RFR. The idea expressed here is that depositing small amounts of chemicals in a person's physiological system, in amounts below normal levels where negative physical effects are known to occur, will ensure they have no perceivable effect until radio frequency radiation (RFR) is introduced. Once introduced, the RFR creates physiological reactions which are detrimental to the host. This would allow individuals who are not exposed to the chemicals to then enter the area of the RFR without harm to their own bodies. When an operator tunes the RFR in just the right way, changes are caused in the energy state of atoms, which cause chemical reactions in the body, which in turn manifest as physiological or psychological changes. The introduction of small amounts of chemicals is a very important
Re: [CTRL] How it works: Who chooses the next administration?
Ah yesbut Cheney and Christopher are but
the smallest tip of the iceberg.
Bill Clinton's mentor, Prof. Carroll Quigley
(Georgetown Univ.) in his now famous book,
"Tragedy and Hope", explained it for all
the world to read:
The Role of the CFR in the Establishment.
Dr. Quigley describes the Council on Foreign Relations as one of several
'front' organizations set up by the inner group for the purpose of advancing
its conspiratorial schemes. Dr. Quigley explains more specifically that the
Council on Foreign Relations 'was a front for J.P. Morgan and Company.' Some
idea of the influence of the Council of Foreign Relations may be gleaned from
the fact that there were 74 CFR members in the American delegation to the
United Nations Conference at San Francisco in 1945, including Alger Hiss
(Communist spy), Harry Dexter White (Soviet agent), Owen Lattimore ('a
conscious, articulate instrument of the Soviet international conspiracy'),
John J. McCloy (formerly head of the Rockefeller Chase-Manhattan Bank),
Harold Stassen, Nelson Rockefeller, John Foster Dulles, Philip Jessup and
Dean Acheson.
Internationally, the CFR is interlocked with the Bilderbergers, the Pugwash
Conferences, the English-speaking Union, the Pilgrims Society, and the Round
Table. Within the United States, CFR members are interlocked with the
American Association for the United Nations, the Foreign Policy Association,
the World Affairs Council, the Committee for Economic Development, Business
Advisory Council, Commission on National Goals, American Assembly, National
Planning Association, and Americans for Democratic Action.
For much more: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a58257.htm
Regards to All
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[CTRL] AMERICAN PIE ON WALL STREET
BEFORE YOU READ THE FOLLOWING, YOU SHOULD FIRST SING "AMERICAN PIE" BY DON McLEAN. (Sing out loud) "Bye bye miss american pie drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry them good ol boys were drinkin whiskey and rye singin this will be the day that I die this will be the day that I die." Did you sing it out loud? You should to get the full effect. Sing this to "American Pie." Humble Pie A long, long week ago I can still remember how the market used to make me smile What I'd do when I had the chance Is get myself a cash advance And add another tech stock to the pile But Alan Greenspan made me shiver With every speech that he delivered Bad news on the rate front Still I'd take one more punt I can't remember if I cried When I heard about the CPI I lost my fortune and my pride The day the NASDAQ died So bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July We're right back where we were in July Did you buy stocks you never heard of? QCOM at 150 or above? 'Cos George Gilder told you so Now do you believe in Home Depot? Can Wal-Mart save your portfolio? And can you teach me what's a P/E ratio? Well, I know that you were leveraged too So you can't just take a long-term view Your broker shut you down No more margin could be found I never worried on the whole way up Buying dot coms from the back of a pickup truck But Friday I ran out of luck It was the day the NSDAQ died I started singin' Bye-bye to my piece of the pie I'm gettin' margin calls Cause my cash account's dry It's just two weeks from a new all-time high And now we're right back where we were in July Yeah we're right back where we were in Ju-li. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ELIAN TURNED OVER TO THE VILLAGE PEOPLE!
Elian was grabbed at gunpoint and they didn't even take a moment to read him his rights. And so now comes Bill Clinton talking about it at the White House today. Bill said: "Elian's reunion with his father...was long overdue. I believe it is time for all of us, including the media and those of us in public life, to give this family the space it needs to heal." Notice that Clinton spoke about the boy's father and his family. But wait a minute! Didn't Hillary write a book and tell us that "IT TAKES A VILLAGE" ?? The only logical conclusion one can draw from this is that Hillary's idea of "A Village" is communist Cuba. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Stock Market Now Is For Fools: GOV'T LIES CAN'T POSTPONE A G...
In a message dated 04/16/2000 3:11:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GOV'T LIES CAN'T POSTPONE A GRIM RECKONING One of the biggest lies is that inflation can be slowed or stopped by increasing interest rates. Just the opposite is true. Any businessman knows that interest payments (debt service) are a cost of doing business. Business costs must be added to the prices of goods and services and passed on to consumers. The direct result of higher interest rates is higher prices. Please read that again. The direct result of higher interest rates is higher prices. When prices go up, the Federal Reserve and the propaganda media call it "Inflation". That is a lie..rising prices are a result of an inflated or devalued money supply. So when the various Price Indexes go up, the FED calls it "Inflation", and in the next breath they tell us they are raising interest rates to fight the inflation. Raising the interest rates is pouring gasoline on the fire. Remember, increased interest rates translates into increased prices. When the Fed increases interest rates it's like the captain of a ship ordering holes to be drilled through the bottom of the ship's hull in order to stop the water from coming in. If you want to know what's really happening, please read and consider the following. The Masai Tribe of Kenya Africa has a very peculiar custom. The Masai bleed their domestic cattle by piercing a vein in the neck with a hollow tube. The blood is caught in a bowl or jar. They carefully control the amount of blood taken from each animal so as not to endanger its life. The loss of a cow is a major economic loss to a Masai family. The blood is mixed with milk and the Masai drink it! This blood-milk mixture is a major part of their diet. The Masai must be careful to maintain a balance between bleeding their animals and keeping them alive. Obviously, a dead animal would provide no more blood. It is accurate to say that the Masai are literally "Vampires". It is also accurate to say that the Federal Reserve is a Vampire. It feeds off the very lifeblood of the American Economy. When it raises interest rates, it is increasing the "bleeding". If the economy slows too much...stagnates...deteriorates... they slow the bleeding by reducing interest rates. When our economy is healthy and vibrant as it has been, they stick us in the neck and let our blood flow. They feed on it! Remember this example the next time you read or hear in the news about Alan Greenspan and The Federal Reserve and interest rates. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GORBACHEV HAS A ROOM WITH A VIEW
ishes the Presidio as a National Historic Landmark with a rich collection of historic architecture, engineered structures, and landscape features. Now surrounded by San Francisco's dense residential neighborhoods, the Presidio's open space has become an urban oasis and critical refuge for plants and wildlife, including rare and endangered species, at an important geographical and ecological location. The Presidio's bay and coastal shorelines and forested landscape offer recreational opportunities for active pursuits as well as places for solitude, retreat, and discovery. Transformation of the Presidio from military post to park is a complex challenge. Unlike any other park, the Presidio contains more than 800 buildings, a research facility, a golf course, a national cemetery, and a full range of recreational and community services on its 1,480 acres. Following transfer of the post to the National Park Service in 1994, a community planning process was initiated that resulted in a General Management Plan for the Presidio. This plan calls for preserving and protecting the parks resources and for bringing organizations together that focus on finding solutions to environmental, cultural and social issues of global scale. For 218 years the Presidio served as a military post under the flags of three nations - Spain, Mexico, and the United States. During its history the Presidio protected commerce and trade, and played a logistical role in every major U.S. military engagement since the Mexican-American War. World events and those on the home front - from military conflicts to aviation firsts, from World Fairs to natural disasters - left their mark on the Presidio. In 1972, Congress authorized the establishment of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area (GGNRA) and included the Presidio of San Francisco in that authorization. In 1989, as a result of the Base Realignment and Closure Act, the Army announced that the military post would be closed, and on October 1, 1994, the Presidio became part of the GGNRA. On July 1, 1998, management of the non-coastal areas of the Presidio was transferred to the Presidio Trust, which is tasked with making the Presidio monetarily self sufficient by 2013 by leasing property within this National Park site. Today, visitors from all over the world can savor the history and beauty of this "Jewel of the Pacific." Within its 1,480 acres lie 510 historic buildings, a "museum" of coastal defense fortifications, a national cemetery, a historic airfield, planted forest, beaches, coastal bluffs, miles of hiking and biking, and some of the most spectacular vistas anywhere in the world. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ==== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Gun Control to Mind Control?
"what is the motivation of those who wish to take guns out of circulation now? If we get sucked into the guns are good or bad debate, the real reason behind current events will be lost." YES! YOU HAVE GONE TO THE VERY HEART OF THIS VITAL ISSUE! The "motivation of those who wish to take guns out of circulation", is not about "keeping guns out the hands of criminals". It's not about keeping guns away from children or making the children safe It's not about saving lives. It's about enslaving the people of America. "First you gave in on handguns, then you compromised on long guns. Then came registration. Next comes confiscation," Trust me -- that's history's proven sequence of events." -Charleton Heston, NRA President in a speech to the British Columbia Wildlife Federation "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." --Thomas Jefferson Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NOW For The REST Of The Elian Story: A letter to Elian Gonzalez
For the last 2 weeks the national "news media" has been totally focused on the story of 6 year old Elian Gonzales. It's been on the covers of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks are devoting half of their evening news to this one story. Four years ago on this date, the national "news media" was totally focused on another child.a 7 year old girl. It made the cover of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks were devoting half of their evening news to this one story.remember? 7-year-old flier's funeral ends the saga April 15, 1996 PESCADERO, California (CNN) -- Accompanied by a throng of media photographers, friends and relatives of 7-year-old Jessica Dubroff gathered to say goodbye to the little girl who dreamed of flying a small plane across the country. Dubroff's dream ended Thursday when her Cessna Cardinal 177 crashed shortly after take-off from Cheyenne, Wyoming. Jessica, her father and flight instructor were killed in the crash. Other "news stories" the national media have been totally focused on include: The murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey. The O.J. Simpson murder trial. The death of Princess Diane. The Lorena Bobbit husband castration episode. The Tonya Harding vs Nancy Kerrigan ice skating feud. The William Kennedy Smith rape trial. The Anita Hill charges against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas. The murder of homosexual Matthew Shepherd. And of course the endless news stories about Clinton and Monica Lewinski, including the congressional hearings and the impeachment trial. Americans love Soap Opera melodrama. The "news media" is only too happy to keep "totally focused" on whatever it can find and pump up to hold the public's attention. And while America is "totally focused" on little Elian or big Monica, the real newsthe events of real importance to the life of this nation and the world, go totally unreported. We are a nation of sleepwalkers. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bush, Sr., Bay of Pigs, Elian and more/Fwd
In a message dated 04/15/2000 7:29:35 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: " What is now going on regarding Elian Gonzalez is SO UTTERLY WEIRD, bizarre and inconceivable." __ Yes, it is "weird and bizarre"...and could we also say "contrived"? For the last 2 weeks the national "news media" has been totally focused on this one story of 6 year old Elian Gonzales. It's been on the covers of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks are devoting half of their evening news to this one storyas though nothing else of importance is happening anywhere in the world. Four years ago on this date, the national "news media" was totally focused on another child.a 7 year old girl. It made the cover of Time and Newsweek. The TV networks were devoting half of their evening news to this one story.remember? 7-year-old flier's funeral ends the saga April 15, 1996 PESCADERO, California (CNN) -- Accompanied by a throng of media photographers, friends and relatives of 7-year-old Jessica Dubroff gathered to say goodbye to the little girl who dreamed of flying a small plane across the country. Dubroff's dream ended Thursday when her Cessna Cardinal 177 crashed shortly after take-off from Cheyenne, Wyoming. Jessica, her father and flight instructor were killed in the crash. Other "news stories" the national media have been totally focused on include: The murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey. The O.J. Simpson murder trial. The death of Princess Diane. The Lorena Bobbit husband castration episode. The Tonya Harding vs Nancy Kerrigan ice skating feud. The William Kennedy Smith rape trial. The Anita Hill charges against Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas. The murder of homosexual Matthew Shepherd. And of course the endless news stories about Clinton and Monica Lewinski, including the congressional hearings and the impeachment trial. Americans love Soap Opera melodrama. The "news media" is only too happy to keep "totally focused" on whatever it can find and pump up to hold the public's attention. And while America is "totally focused" on little Elian or big Monica, the real newsthe events of real importance to the life of this nation and the world, go totally unreported. We are a nation of sleepwalkers. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] QUANTUM LEAPS
In a message dated 04/13/2000 9:41:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now consider that 31 years have elapsed since Armstrong's historic moon landing. 31 years! Question: What's happened in the last 31 years? Where's the "Quantum Leap"? Given that advancements in technology tend to produce more advancements in an intensifying and accelerating rate we should have had some very significant "leaps" in the last 31 years. Where are they? _ "It's as if about 100 years ago, something detoured our science, especially physics into a cul-de-sac." -Richard C. Hoagland In 1966, I got on a jet airliner in Philadelphia and flew to San Diego. That flight takes the same amount of time today as it did 34 years ago. Today's "modern" planes don't fly any higher or faster than they did more than three decades ago! The Space Shuttle is 1960's technology. Yes there have been tremendous leaps in computers and electronics, but where are the quantum leaps in technology which should have occurred? Think about it! It's a certainty that such leaps have occured. Given the vast amounts which have been spent on research and developmentthe quantum leaps have happened. We just haven't been told about it. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] QUANTUM LEAPS
The following is a list of dates of important "quantum leaps".
1903 The Wright Brother's first powered flight Kitty Hawk, North Carolina
1927 Charles Lindberg flies non-stop across the Atlantic Ocean
1947 Chuck Yeager breaks the sound barrier
1969 Neil Armstrong lands on the moon ("one giant leap for mankind").
Take a look at those dates. Notice that about every 20 to 24 years
there was a "giant leap for mankind"there was a quantum leap
forward in terms of man's capabilities.
Now consider that 31 years have elapsed since Armstrong's
historic moon landing.
31 years!
Question: What's happened in the last 31 years?
Where's the "Quantum Leap"?
Given that advancements in technology tend to produce more
advancements in an intensifying and accelerating rate
we should have had some very significant "leaps" in the last 31 years.
Where are they?
Regards to All
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Re: [CTRL] The Shot Heard Around the World
It is a very sad irony that Massachusetts is now the state with the most stringent gun laws. The people of Massachusetts have forgotten their heritage. It was 225 years ago April 19, that a small group of Massachusetts militiamen refused to be disarmed by British soldiers. A column of British Redcoats between 650 to 900 strong was marching to Concord to seize "rebel arms". The "rebel militia" intercepted the British at the Concord North Bridge. It was there that the famous "shot heard round the world" was fired. The important meaning of that shot is no longer understood by many. Massachusetts is taking the lead in placing restrictions on the Second Amendment. They must have forgotten what a great price was paid to secure the Rights and freedoms we have had in America. If we surrender the Second Amendment, what's left of our Constitution will go very quickly. Regards to All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CLINTON PUTS BUTCH RENO IN CHARGE
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Re: [CTRL] BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS -- Nazi America? Hmmmm!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Interesting that "The W.A.V.E. America program was developed by Pinkerton Services Group, a division of the international security firm Pinkerton, Inc." The W.A.V.E. America program was planned and is being directed by one of the largest multi-national security companies in the world. This news article does not report "the rest of the story". Pinkerton's, Inc. is owned by Securitas of Sweden. Securitas is the largest security firm in Europe. Lindhagensplan 70, Box 12307 SE-102 28 Stockholm, SwedenPhone: +46-8-657-74-00 Fax: +46-8-657-74-72 http://www.securitasgroup.com Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Trading with the Enemy
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Consider the irony of this travesty. While Bill Clinton and congressional "leaders" of both parties are pushing hard for China to be granted permanent WTO membership...the government of the United States is prosecuting Bill Gates and MicroSoft. Clinton has raised hypocrisy to the level of obscenity! MicroSoft has provided good jobs for thousands of people. MicroSoft is a shining success of the free enterprise system. Communist China operates on Slave Labor. So our national leaders throw flowers in the path of one of the greatest slave nations in the history of the world while at the same time prosecuting/persecuting one of America's great companies for being too successful. Things are getting very strange in the land of the free, and the home of the brave. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rule of Law?
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- We often hear Bill Clinton and other politicians use the phrase "the rule of law". They expecially like to use it when talking about justifying some military adventure such as the Gulf War or the NATO invasion of Bosnia. Fact is, we do not have the "rule of law" in the US. We have bald-faced hypocritical selective enforcement. Black's Law Dictionary defines "license" as official permission to do something which would otherwise be illegal and/or prohibited. license - definition from on-line dictionary: "Official or legal permission to do or own a specified thing." Consider that our Constitution is supposed to be the highest law in the land. It is supposed to be superior to and take precedence over any law passed by Congress or by any state legislature. The Constitution states very plainly that the people's right to bear arms "shall not be infringed." Infringe is from the latin: nfringere, to destroy: To transgress or violate; to defeat; invalidate. To encroach on someone or something; So...the highest law of the land states that the government shall not "destroy, or violate or invalidate the peoples right to be armed. How is it then that we must have "official permission" to be armed...and that without this official permission called a license...it would otherwise be illegal? I'm not nitpicking here...the words of the law are plain. It's also plain that the government is criminal. It breaks the laweven the highest law of the land on a regular basis. So much for "the rule of law" that Clinton is always braying about. What I find most sad about all of this is that the people are so dumbed down and ignorant, they don't have a clue about this. However...we should understand the reality that one had better behave and follow orders...whether they be lawful or not. Big Brother does bear arms and has shown no reluctance to kill those who disobey. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [smashthestate] Warrior Cops
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/31/2000 5:15:16 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "The US is turning more into a police state with each passing day." +++ Coaches in sports have long taught that "you will play like you practice". Your Report gives some sobering insight as to why 4 New York Police Officers recently shot and killed an unarmed man in the Bronx. They were simply "playing what they have been practicing"! The ominous question is: What are they practicing for? Notice this news story talks about "search and destroy" missions. This is military terminology right out of the Vietnam War. Nakano Warrior Cops The Ominous Growth of Paramilitarism in American Police Departments by Diane Cecilia Weber The 1980s and 1990s have seen marked changes in the number of state and local paramilitary units, in their mission and deployment, and in their tactical armament. According to a recent academic survey, nearly 90 percent of the police departments surveyed in cities with populations over 50,000 had paramilitary units, as did 70 percent of the departments surveyed in communities with populations under 50,000. The Pentagon has been equipping those units with M-16s, armored personnel carriers, and grenade launchers. The police paramilitary units also conduct training exercises with active duty Army Rangers and Navy SEALs. State and local police departments are increasingly accepting the military as a model for their behavior and outlook. The sharing of training and technology is producing a shared mindset. The problem is that the mindset of the soldier is simply not appropriate for the civilian police officer. Police officers confront not an âenemyâ but individuals who are protected by the Bill of Rights. Confusing the police function with the military function can lead to dangerous and unintended consequencesâsuch as unnecessary shootings and killings. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Liberals have wrought.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare complained she didn't want any prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school, the Bible that says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor yourself. And we said, OK. Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem. And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we won't spank them anymore. Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty member in our school can touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued. And we accepted their reasoning. Then someone said, "Our daughters have the right to have abortions if they want, and they shouldn't have to tell their parents." And we said, it's their right. Then some wise school board member said, since kids are kids (and they're going to do it anyway), let's give our children all the birth control they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got it at school. And we said, that's another great idea. Then some school administrators said, we need to teach children that homosexuality is just an alternate lifestyle and that is just as good and acceptable a lifestyle as any other. We need to help our young people "get in touch with their own feelings" and even encourage them to explore this alternate lifestyle. And we were afraid that if we objected to this we would be labeled as "homophobes" and "haters" and "religious bigots".so we quietly said"OK". And the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promotes profanity, violence, and illicit sex. And let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. So, now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with... "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ==== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Shot Fired 225 Years Ago
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- It is a very sad irony that Massachusetts is now the state with the most stringent gun laws. The people of Massachusetts have forgotten their heritage. It was 225 years ago this month, that a small group of Massachusetts militiamen refused to be disarmed by British soldiers. A column of British Redcoats between 650 to 900 strong was marching to Concord to seize "rebel arms". The "rebel militia" intercepted the British at the Concord North Bridge. It was there that the famous "shot heard round the world" was fired. The important meaning of that shot is no longer understood by many. Massachusetts is taking the lead in placing restrictions on the Second Amendment. They must have forgotten what a great price was paid to secure the Rights and freedoms we have had in America. If we surrender the Second Amendment, what's left of our Constitution will go very quickly. Regards to All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Population Control Bomb
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/08/2000 10:15:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: " A hippo needs 100 pounds of food everyday, compared with a few pounds for human beings. Further it does not produce any of the food it consumes. No animal ever does. Only human beings produce their own food." " If there were an economic argument against overpopulation, you would think that it would apply to all animals except human beings." ___ Animals don't produce a lot of things which people do. Animals don't appropriate vast areas of the earth and interrupt the natural varieties of plant and animal life with monocultures of hybrid and genetically engineered crops. Animals don't permanently destroy vast areas of plantlife and animal habitat by strip mining, clear-cut lumber harvesting, building cities and paving over the ground with asphalt and concrete. Animals don't dump millions of tons of industrial waste poisons and pollutants into the earth's water systems and atmosphere. You point out that "lions eat goats" and "jayhawks eat chickens". Yes...but animal predators do not hunt and kill their prey to extinction. If they did, the lions would have driven zebras to extinction long ago and the killer whales would have eaten all the seals. The point is that animals do not stress and distort the earth's ecosystems as man does. While we are able to artificially increase the life-carrying capacity of our planet through clever methods of increasing food supply, we are severely damaging the quality of lifeour own, and the life of the other species that co-inhabit the earth with us. 30 billion plus people on earth may be a possibility, but if it's true that we are an intelligent species, we will make other choices. Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd:) SEATTLE II
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- And instead of democracy being circumvented at the global level by unrepresentative corporations, it will be done by NGOs and other special interest groups. Woohoo! Roll on Global "Guided Democracy". BD A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Illuminati Line-Up
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- What unmitigated schlock!! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] He's Baaack! The Return of Gerald Posner
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- John, Methinks you are unreasonable to assert that one would only support the lone-gunman theory if one were paid out to do so by the government, or part thereof. There is such a thing as an independent opinion or don't you believe that is possible? That the "facts" are in and only agent of the powers that be would pursue such a line of inquiry? Sure, there is a lot of literature out there which rejects the notion that Oswald did it and asserts JFK was the victim of a criminal conspiracy, but that's only thing those books seem to share. Afterall, to Posner and others, it might be quite logical to conclude that Oswald was the killer, especially when faced with the parade of theories positing a variety of combinations of conspiratorial cliques, groups of assassins, and other instances of imaginative speculation, especially when they can find so many instances of the consensu view is supported by fudged facts, inconsistent witnesses, selective evidence and intepretation, and other shoddy work. So, even if you still think Posner's work is wrong, there's no need to make the insulting and intellectually lazy claim that he is a government agent - unless you can prove that he is. Otherwise I guess you just have to let your "facts" and his errors speak for themselves... BD. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] To your corners......
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Now that's a novel argument...which must surely have been designed by the conspirators to create more division by prompting people such as myself to question your motives by trying to direct people away from seeking out the complete truth Say WHAT? Forgive the lack of clarity, or rather the incomprehensibility. A late night I think what I was trying to say was that the claim that by "arguing and quibbling over small details, you are playing into the hands of the conspirators" was a bit rich if not bizarre. If anything, it is a call for ideological unity, for all of us be committed to the big picture and to interpret concerns over the details as sinister attempts at sabotaging the precious consensus - or at least an activity which supports the "conspirators". I find that attitude dangerous because, first, it negates and rejects counter-views on political grounds, and second, it obstructs the legitimate quest for the truth by asserting that we already know it - although I would contend that we don't - and that further consideration is counter-productive. And I suppose finally I would question whether "we" were a unified "movement" anyway, but just a lot of people with different views on similar topics... Hope that's a bit clearer. BD. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] School Shooting Pattern (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/22/2000 12:58:26 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.umr.edu/~police/map.htm THIS ADDRESS DOESN'T WORK. THREE DAYS AGO I TRIED AND GOT A 'MISSING LINK' MESSAGE. AND TODAY THIS ADDRESS IS GIVING THE MESSAGE SHOWN BELOW. THIS MAP SOUNDS INTERESTING, BUT IT CURRENTLY CAN NOT BE ACCESSED. UMR Address Failed (File 404) We're sorry! The document you requested (URL) is not available. UMR's site is constantly being updated. If you think you may have found a broken link, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is important that you include the URL of the page that you were trying to access and the location that the page was linked from so that appropriate action can be taken. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] To your corners......
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- By arguing and quibbling over small details, you are playing into the hands of the conspirators. Now that's a novel argument...which must surely have been designed by the conspirators to create more division by prompting people such as myself to question your motives by trying to direct people away from seeking out the complete truth Small details (in the grand perspective) like who belongs to what "cult" and details of religious practice, are red herrings, designed BY the people who perpetuated the crimes against the Branch Davidians, in order to keep you from focusing on the important matters, exposing the criminals and bringing them to justice. Tenorlove A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CFR uber alles.
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- The RIIA is the parent organization of the CFR in the U.S. The RIIA was originally named the "Round Table Group". Cecil Rhodes (who founded and funded the Rhodes Scholarships), was one of the founders of RIIA. Details are available in the book Tragedy and Hope by Professor Carroll Quigley, Columbia Univ. Quigley was Bill Clinton's "mentor". Clinton also wrote a book. It's title is: Between Hope and History. (Where do you suppose he came up with this catchy title?) Clinton, of course, was a "Rhodes Scholar"...as was Bill Bradley... as was George Stephanopolis (now with ABC-TV). At one time or another, there have been more than a dozen Rhodes Scholars in the Clinton Administration. A few weeks after Clinton was first elected President, and before he was was sworn-in to Office, Clinton hosted a well-publicized meeting. Some of the top leaders from business, industry, education, finance, and science were invited to participate. The event was broadcast live on CSPAN. The participants were seated in a circle. Bill Clinton personally introduced each speaker with these words: "Would you please welcome (name of person) as he joins our Round Table discussion." (Note: Tragedy and Hope and Between Hope and History are both available from Amazon.com) Regards to All Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [BRIGADE] PJB Vows Tariffs on Oil Nations
om the Caspian Basin. The 1,080-mile pipeline will begin at the Azerbaijani capital, Baku, and run through Georgia and Turkey to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. The project is expected to cost $2.4 billion, and the government of Turkey has offered guarantees that the cost of the Turkish segment of the pipeline will not exceed $1.4 billion. The signing ceremony took place during a visit to Istanbul by U.S. President Clinton for a summit of the Organization for Cooperation and Security in Europe (OSCE). (WP, NYT) December 21, 1999: The Export-Import Bank drops a proposed $500 million loan to Russia's Tyumen Oil after Secretary of State Madeleine Albright exercises her statutory authority to block the transaction. The loan had been controversial in part because of Tyumen Oil's dispute with BP Amoco over the bankruptcy of Russian oil firm Sidanko, in which BP Amoco owns a major stake. BP Amoco and Tyumen Oil later settled the dispute on December 23. (DJ) December 31, 1999: The average U.S. price per gallon for unleaded regular is $1.30, up 40 cents per gallon since Clinton was acquitted in February. The Panama Canal Zone reverts to Panamanian sovereignty at noon, after nearly a century of American control. More than a half-million barrels of crude oil and petroleum products transit the Canal each day. (DJ) December 31, 1999: Russian President Boris Yeltsin makes a surprise announcement that he is resigning immediately. Vladimir Putin becomes Acting President, and presidential elections will be held within 90 days, with a date to be set by the State Duma. Russia is the largest exporter of energy in the world. (DJ) February 28, 2000: The U.S. average retail price per gallon of unleaded regular is $1.42 This is an increase of 52 cents in the year since Clinton was acquitted. March 13, 2000: The U.S. average retail price per gallon of unleaded regular is $1.52 This is an increase of 10 cents per gallon in the past 2 weeks. U.S. gasoline prices have increased 69% since Bill Clinton was acquitted 13 months ago. Gasoline prices are reported at an all time high in California. Regular $1.74 Midgrade $1.84 Premium $1.93 Prices include all taxes. Regards to All Nakano (Sources: Form EIA-878 "Motor Gasoline Price Survey" ) http://www.energy.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline/world_gasoline_prices.html http://www.energy.ca.gov/fuels/weekly/gasoline.html FromCalif. Energy Commission andU.S. Dept. of Energy's Energy Information Administration Regards to All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] AL GORE SAID IT!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Vice President Al Gore as he traveled to Marrakech, Morocco, in April for the signing of the new world trade agreement. Gore appeared hours after U.S. planes enforcing an allied 'no fly' zone over northern Iraq accidentally shot down two U.S. helicopters, killing 15 Americans and 11 foreign officials. 'I want to extend condolences,' Gore said, 'to the families of those who died in the service of the United Nations.'" (Los Angeles Times, 6/12/94) Regards to All, Nakano A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
