Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:01:51 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > I ventured the idea that the only way to combat it, is for citizens > to put web cams in their windows, in their cars, have body cams.. > whatever.. and have a distributed system where we can live stream > that stuff up. Open

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Mirimir
With ubiquitous smartphones, we're getting there. Say what you will about Facebook, but they seem to have real commitment to sharing. So far, they've allowed some rather contentious and inflammatory stuff.

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-21 Thread Mirimir
On 09/21/2016 12:26 PM, John Newman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:07:10PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:15 AM, John Newman wrote: >> For this small price of love, you could grant it it's freedom, >> for everyone, forever... >> >>

Torgate: Tor’s Branding Pivot is Going to Get Someone Killed

2016-09-21 Thread grarpamp
Virgil Griffith- Research Scientist in Singapore Sep 4 Tor’s Branding Pivot is Going to Get Someone Killed Aka, human rights activism meets the Cobra Effect Three weeks ago, The Tor Project, Inc. published their Tor Social Contract. The contract was covered by the media, but the media focused on

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/2016 10:50 PM, Razer wrote: > On 09/21/2016 06:32 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: >> rulers out. That is why the Revolutionary War had the necessary >> organization and mass public support to succeed. > > > There was no American Revolution.

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread Razer
On 09/21/2016 06:44 PM, John Newman wrote: > NLP is widely discredited pseudo-science crap. It works quite well on simple minded people. AKA "Useful Idiots". Rr > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:36:53PM -0300, juan wrote: >>> The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 09:36:53PM -0300, juan wrote: > > The skills of illusion, and "mentalism" are quite real.. and if you > > watch more of his stuff, especially the longer videos or full > > episodes where he breaks down the hows and whys of it working, > > perhaps you'll be less likely to

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/2016 08:34 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/21/2016 12:03 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: >> Show me the Law(s) that makes it so. >> >> \0x > > Guns make it so. Law enforcement owns about 99.9% of all the > military style weaponry. Collusion

Re: "The Tree of Liberty will get its manure..." [Was Re:]

2016-09-21 Thread Razer
On 09/21/2016 12:03 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: > Show me the Law(s) that makes it so. > > \0x Guns make it so. Law enforcement owns about 99.9% of all the military style weaponry. Have you ever seen this bit @Popehat: In 1776, when the height of military technology was a musket and a cannon,

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:10:27 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is > > going to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > > subway system

Re:

2016-09-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Very fine response actually. There are many most intriguing fine details and aspects which can be used in legal hackerspaces. Most want to tech hack, not law hack though ... there be a primary block. That don't stop some amazing and enjoyable hacks very possible, some even easy, though :) On

[Fwd: Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF]

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
Ooops. Sent this to Juan offlist, but meant to copy the list on it too. > However the idea that a professional seller of jewelry is going > to make a big sale like that, without even COUNTING the bills > because he had been chatted up with some nonsense about the > subway

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:59:14 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40:09PM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Now, here's your fallacy. Because we humans are of course acting > > rationally under pressure. Take Juan's give-me-your-money example: > > in order to

Re: Volunteers

2016-09-21 Thread Dan White
I'll note in the headers for the forged message: Received: from pglaf.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.pglaf.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q3dJbRQr1ULg for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 03:57:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Greylist:

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/2016 10:36 AM, John Newman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:04:25PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: >> For me a plausible counter example appears a late Bulgarian >> phenomenon

Re:

2016-09-21 Thread Xer0Dynamite
Show me the Law(s) that makes it so. \0x On 9/21/16, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/21/2016 11:20 AM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: >> Like Lessig's "Code is Law". LAW is also CODE: it's the Operating >> System for your Government. Presently: bloated and with a few design >> flaws.

Re:

2016-09-21 Thread Razer
On 09/21/2016 11:20 AM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: > Like Lessig's "Code is Law". LAW is also CODE: it's the Operating > System for your Government. Presently: bloated and with a few design > flaws. Fortunately, it's Open Source. Muhahhhwhahaaa > > \0x > But the hardware it runs on, the the

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:07:10PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:15 AM, John Newman wrote: > For this small price of love, you could grant it it's freedom, > for everyone, forever... > > http://custodians.online/ I don't have the apparatus to scan it - and

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2016-09-21 Thread Xer0Dynamite
Like Lessig's "Code is Law". LAW is also CODE: it's the Operating System for your Government. Presently: bloated and with a few design flaws. Fortunately, it's Open Source. Muhahhhwhahaaa \0x

Re: Little Brother, Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/21/16 10:59 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked >> about it a lot. > Heh. Kinda funny. I called it "Little Sister" when I mentioned it to my > buddy. I like that. Perhaps the well-designed incarnation should be "Little

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
> I disagree. > Therefore, the one and only effective way to get back freedom is to > shutdown the tyranny. Maybe weapons are required, like in the US > independence war, maybe a massive amount of people is required, like we > east germans did in 1989. > > Anything else are illusions. Valid

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Stephen D. Williams
I can identify with that view somewhat. What used to be the case was that people would heavily scrutinize, gossip, report, etc. what others were doing. That was a tyranny of sorts too. By having more photos, video, and social sharing of all kinds, a much wider range of life was exposed as

Re: Little Brother, Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
> That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked > about it a lot. Heh. Kinda funny. I called it "Little Sister" when I mentioned it to my buddy. Yeah, those are good points you make. A voting system that could downvote/purge irrelevant/private clips would be good. It

Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
I'd like to bounce an idea around. At the outset, I'm going to say that I don't really like the idea. Like getting a root canal, I'd rather not have a some guy drilling around in my jaw, but what can you do? Some years back, maybe 8 years ago now, prior to the Snowden revelations, a Kiwi buddy

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 21, 2016 2:29 AM, "Александр" wrote: > > oh oh oh... so much private information and WHAT an information we should start LAving you, xorcist. Just lAving you!!! What a holy man we got on the list... on day three he opens his hErt in front of all of us. I

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:04:25PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > > > > > On September 18, 2016 8:36:52 AM EDT, Georgi Guninski > > wrote: > > >The

Re: Even spookier entangled particles.

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 05:13:18AM +, jim bell wrote: > https://www.yahoo.com/news/entangled-particles-reveal-even-spookier-action-thought-125723794.html > > [partial quote] > Sorry, Einstein: It looks like the world is spooky ??? even when your most > famous theory is tossed out.This

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On September 18, 2016 8:36:52 AM EDT, Georgi Guninski > wrote: > >The main problem is this scales upwards till infinity via arguments of > >the form "who

Member Berries

2016-09-21 Thread skankhunt42
> xorcist: > I remember when this list had posts from Assange and others > on actual cryptographic techniques and tools, > where real information was shared. Sounds like you've been eating them member berries [0]. The episode [1] pokes at trolls and the US elections. [0]:

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/20/2016 09:22 PM, Tom wrote: >> btw, I'd suggest reading Phil Plaits 'Death from the Skies!'. In this >> book he examines a couple of scenarios how the universe might end (among >> a couple other ways how we could

Re: on communication - gpg's el gamal and debian's openssl

2016-09-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/2016 03:56 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 05:57:59PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: >>> search the interwebz for references. >> >> TL;DR >> > > Here are some links of the more important screwups IMHO. Below: The kind

Re: on communication - gpg's el gamal and debian's openssl

2016-09-21 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 05:57:59PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > > search the interwebz for references. > > TL;DR > Here are some links of the more important screwups IMHO. Suspect zero or more of (spec) backdoors, social engineering, gross incompetence:

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 04:55:03 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> You're like autistic or something. > > > > > > Sure. And being gay is a disease that is cured with > > electroshocks and lobotomies. > > > Hit a nerve, did I? Sorry. No judgments. You hit a nerve only in a

Re: on communication - gpg's el gamal and debian's openssl

2016-09-21 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 05:57:59PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > > and to debian, who memset() what they read from /dev/random. > > Sounds like a personal issue to me... > I deny this and actually use debian. Their disclaimer cover their asses. Still criticizing publicly OS vendors for major

Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF

2016-09-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 05:10:24AM -, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > In fact, I'm not EVEN CIA, and I have a lot better things to do. I'm burnt > out lately, so I've been slacking. Wanna pony up some other TLA's? There's plenty of 'em :)