thought this would make an interesting topic for discussion.
Brian Milburn
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Several porn spammers are also using them. They claim that they are using
verified opt-in lists, however we have seen several reports from customers
that claim they never opted-in for any adult oriented material, however may
have for other things. They are apparently buying their opt-in lists
It is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll check that. It is supposed to be sending this out in the welcome message.
On 03/25/03 4:11pm you wrote...
John,
I subscribed to that list when I bought the product, but I do not see
anywhere what email address to send to the list with.
Sincerely,
Grant Griffith,
I had a program that checked a time server every day to keep the time
accurate. On more than one occasion I saw the date get changed to the year
2020 and the year 4040. I don't use time server programs any more.
On 03/27/03 12:09pm you wrote...
I have seen random date changes when the battery
Me too.
On 06/06/03 11:39am you wrote...
I received something weird. It was like the headers only.
John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA
Engineer/Consultant
eServices For You
www.eservicesforyou.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Yep, now that I think about it, I think you did. That was a few days ago, a
lot of brain cells must have evaporated since then ;)
On 05/27/03 7:59pm you wrote...
Scott, does IMail do it's ip4r checking after the whole message is
received and the connection terminated or does check
for giving negative weights to pattern matches that have words like Shipping
Tax and Total within say 120 characters of each other indicating it is
probably a receipt or invoice for something.
Brian
On 06/11/03 4:06pm you wrote...
Short answer, I love it. I have been using it since it was first
Hi Fred,
Sure, I'll be posting a message here, probably tomorrow.
Brian
On 06/11/03 8:07pm you wrote...
Brian let me know when you are ready, I would like to try it.
Thanks.
Fred
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday
.
For the IMail stand alone version, pricing is determined by the number of
users your are receiving mail for. For the Declude version, it is a flat fee
for unlimited use.
Licensing costs are available at http://www.alligate.com/imail/pricing.htm
Thanks again,
Brian Milburn
Solid Oak Software
messages of it's own.
He notices that there are several hundred Challenge and bounce messages going
both ways repeatedly after a few hours, and he has to shut it down and kill
the reply accounts to stop the loop.
Don't know if it actually stopped any spam ;)
Brian
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Alligate does it :) (The gateway version anyway)
On 06/18/03 3:25pm you wrote...
It would be less, assuming that IMail can handle it (and that your firewall
can do the tarpitting). I'm not aware of any firewalls that can do true
SMTP tarpitting (which requires sending short bits of data
for this and don't have enough machines here to create that many connections.
We have been able to get up to about 1200 or so.
Brian
On 06/18/03 3:39pm you wrote...
I find the idea intriguing as well but if you start to slow down connections
wouldnt that just hold TCP connections open longer
, it is probably not a fair comparison,
however weren't really trying to benchmark the servers, only our product. We
were able to deliver all messages successfully to the IMail server despite the
reboots and problems, and that was more the point of the test.
Brian
On 06/18/03 3:37pm you wrote
Yep, we did too. A couple of them. Can't wait to sign up for this one ;-)
On 07/08/03 1:17am you wrote...
Anyone else get this?:
=Dear Sir/Madam
I would like to inquire if you would be interested in incorporating
email postage support to your product. It will allow
Why don't you guys give it a rest.
On 07/27/03 8:53pm you wrote...
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From: Smart Business Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Joshua Levitsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New spamcop style RBL..
Sunday, July 27,
Here's 2...
MESSAGE.ZIP
YOUR_DETAILS.ZIP
Although they are really viruses.
On 8/19/2003 12:30pm you wrote...
Just double checking, but we do NOT have a way to block specific
attachments in Declude JM Pro, correct ?
Correct (because we're not yet aware of spammers that are attaching files
their business.
Brian
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Thanks again,
Brian Milburn
Solid Oak Software
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Look at http://www.alligate.com
On 09/10/03 3:20pm you wrote...
Should have been more specific, I'm looking for something used by larger
ISPs that gives me the confidence of volume and stability. Something
attached to a name and a phone number I can call when there's a problem. I
don't mind
I haven't seen any spam. Walmart uses this for their newsletters, don't know
about others. We negative weight this already.
Brian
On 09/12/03 10:10am you wrote...
When ever I see this in the header, it is associated with a legit
newsletter.
Any one see the same, or see spam with this header
and provide free tech support until we are working with the same
code base for both versions of the product.
Brian Milburn
Solid Oak Software
On 10/10/2003 12:20pm you wrote...
FYI
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From: Brian Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 12:05 PM
Ok, here you go... discounts are only available on multiple server
installations. Single server installations are always the same price for
everyone.
You can download the latest version of Alligate anytime at:
http://www.alligate.com/downloads.asp
Here are your Alligate activation codes:
into our mail
servers to test. The new test platforms will allow us to move some domains out
of the normal loop and we will be able to update the Declude version again
(shortly we hope).
Brian
On 12/04/03 4:34pm you wrote...
I *believe* I spoke to Chris. If it wasn't dump it was drop. I didn't
Here are the stats for Tuesday. Wednesday and Thursday we were testing some
things the stats were skewed. This was for our main solidoak.com domain mail
server (general business, not tech support). Our tech support server lets more
spam through, however we can only do limited header type spam
anything?
Thanks,
Brian
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From: Matt
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Keyword
Richard,That is going to be something that only the logs
can tell you when you do things this way, and you would need
Anyone have a list of keywords that effectively
stops the Nigerianspam emails that you would be willing to
share?
Thanks,
Brian
or
Smartermail.
We are currently finishing the GUI to control the gateway and then it will be
ready
for release to beta users. The target date is Jan 10, 2006.
Please take a look at the info page above and if there is any interest, please
feel
free to contact me directly.
Thanks
Brian Milburn
Solid Oak
ever
asked us to do this, and I simply felt that by doing so I could contribute to
the
Declude community in this way. Since I own the company, these costs basically
come
out of my pocket.
I am disappointed that you feel my contribution is unworthy.
Brian
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Rather
, that it can only be sent to their address prior to the spam checks?
I hope this makes sense.
Thanks in advance,
Brian T.
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Irecall that happening with IMail as
well. That is why I was wondering if I did something wrong
before.
Brian
- Original Message -
From: Shayne
Embry
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting email
What are you using for a hold weight and delete
weight?
Brian
- Original Message -
From: IS -
Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting email
address
I can confirm
/smtpgateway.htm
Help
and Screenshots: http://www.alligate.com/help/Default.htm
Thanks,
Brian
Milburn
Solid
Oak Software
Anyone willing to share more info on this?
Timetable?
Thanks,
Brian T.
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From: John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ANN: SMTP Gateway
Plans for a gateway version
Tom,
Attempted to dn/load and its asking for a user and pass
Brian R. Watters
Senior Director of Information Technologies
Totlcom BroadBand Services
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559-420.0205
559-454-7634 fax
This message and any
Ok .. So where does one learn on how to use the ATTACH action .. I must
be looking in all the wrong places .. Also can someone tell us why you
would want to use SKIPIFVIRUSNAMEHAS ..
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Hello all,
We would like to see some sample real world config files for ISP's, If
others out there are using configs that work for there environments then
there is little reason for the rest of us to re-invent the wheel .. Come
on folks share!
Brian
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Adultery
If you are interested in a Declude 'external test' for adult oriented
material, we will be releasing a product for Declude/iMail and other MTAs
soon
Hi John, I am pretty sure you can be assured of that. We deal with a lot of
small ISPs and hosting companies now and always try to keep value high and
expense low.
On 11/08/02 11:59am you wrote...
Hopefully, there will be a tiered pricing structure for smaller companies,
such as small hosting
to begin
the Linux translation by Dec 1, so the feature set and program defaults are
not locked down as yet.
Let me know and I will send you the files and a license key.
Brian
On 11/08/02 1:45pm you wrote...
Great. Please keep us posted on the progress.
John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager
Ok, it is being sent to your email address.
On 11/12/02 12:44pm you wrote...
Brian,
I would like to test it as well!
Patrick Childers
Network Administrator
Hussey, Gay, Bell DeYoung Inc.
329 Commercial Drive
Savannah, GA 31406
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL
to about 10-15 of your users this morning
completely forgetting about the declude.exe problem.
Is the fixed version of Declude available to all users? If so, maybe you could
post the address here so it won't look like we send out software that doesn't
work;-)
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Brian Milburn
this afternoon that implements some new spam
detection tests that help reduce false positives as well as the inclusion of a
couple of suggestions we received from users.
Thanks again, and thanks to Scott for providing an extensible product with
Declude JunkMail!
Brian Milburn
Solid Oak Software
Not when they are the text portions of the message. If you look at a complex
raw email message, there may be several message parts. These can be BASE64
encoded files of any type. All the message parts are essentially contained in
the message body. It is up to the client application to separate
Is there a limit on the number of addresses that I can blacklist within
a FROMFILE?
Thanks.
b
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winmail.dat
Hi John,
I have noticed this as well. Yesterday Spamcop failed several legitimate
messages from AOL users. Maybe they are not clearing out the false reports as
regularly as they normally do because of the holiday week.
-Brian
On 11/27/02 6:51am you wrote...
Has any one else noticed
, especially in January.
Brian
On 01/07/03 5:56pm you wrote...
Is anyone having problems using relays.osirusoft.com and relays.ordb.org?
Should I comment these out in the global.cfg file to avoid excessive
timeouts?
It's a temporary problem due to the Santa Monica Winds in California,
which
Nah, we've been in there a bunch of times and all you get is calls from people
wanting to know if you have a Mac version!
Just kidding, congratulations Scott!
Brian
On 01/24/03 3:52pm you wrote...
Congratulations, Scott. Declude is mentioned in PCMag,
latest February 25th Issue, page 95
.
Brian Clover
-Original Message-
From: Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (4, ):[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklists
Scott and all,
We have the ability to develop a whitelist by domain now, how about the
ability to create
Hmmm... somebody stole my thunder! We added Smart Whitelisting to CYBERsitter
SpamManager for the final release. It automatically (optionally) adds the
recipients address to the users personal whitelist. $27,000 ?? Jeepers!
Somebody's got a lot of VC guys to pay off!
On 02/08/03 10:16am you
I seldom comment on this list, but this is something I know a little about. We
have published security software since 1990 and our most popular product,
CYBERsitter, since 1996. With over 2.5m users, we have seen it all. Because it
records all browsing activity, there are many cases where we have
On 02/27/03 9:32am you wrote...
I'll trust you on that, and apologize for the roundhouse
classification. Yet in your several dozen cases where divorces were
contemplated, employee terminations took place, even people who were
sent back to prison and kids who have been
returns result codes for Declude
JunkMail. It is much less expensive.
On 02/28/03 12:24pm you wrote...
Hello, Brian,
Is there a link on the web somewhere to CYBERsitter SpamManager? I can't
seem to find it. Also,would you consider this product a competing product
to Declude.JunkMail?
Thanks,
Dan
SpamManager returns negative results for adult and positive results for spam.
John has some good test definitions that I am sure he will share.
On 02/28/03 7:41pm you wrote...
There is a Declude specific version of SpamManager now
available that does not have all the bells and whistles and
PROTECTED]/the.jpg width=3D536=
height=3D505
/asalute beacon stumpweapon gapbr%RA=
NDOM_WORDhum implantation party dish/body/html
--15978B3_057.85AE_.850_--
How is he successfully getting through?
Also, how can I block him from coming through again?
Thanks.
Brian
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Here you go:
03:12 18:35 SMTPD(0F9200BE) [169.207.38.237] HELO 208.253.112.160
03:12 18:35 SMTPD(0F9200BE) [169.207.38.237] MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03:12 18:35 SMTPD(0F9200BE) [169.207.38.237] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03:12 18:35 SMTPD(0F9200BE) [169.207.38.237] RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's strange is that the only thing consistent around all of the spam emails is the
IP address 169.207.38.237, which is listed with SpamCop.
Should declude pick that up? I've got spamcop listed as an automatic hold, but
somehow he keeps getting through.
Thanks.
b
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I've checked, and the Hijack is registered.
The config is set to:
RELAYTHRESHOLD1 10 20
RELAYTHRESHOLD2 30 60
And the log files have not held anything today. Everything went through
as OK with juat a couple not local users.
But I see that [EMAIL PROTECTED] now has about 300 outgoing
Thanks Scott.
I've emailed you the file.
We do have a few ALLOWIP's, but I they are for IP's we own.
I checked the W log files and it looks like they are coming in through web messaging
(god knows how they are sending that much email through web messaging) under several
IP's ranging from
I've got you up until the DAISYCHAIN ipsmtp.exe point.
Do you want me to rename the two files and then add the daisychain line above to the
config file of hijack?
Thanks.
b
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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL
Will renaming declude.exe to smtp32.exe cause problems with junkmail or virus?
Do I need to rename or make a copy of declude.exe as renamed?
b
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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Mar
Scott,
I made these changes and restarted services.
But then I stopped receiving emails.
When I reverted back, I'm now receiving emails again.
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
b
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From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL
The reverse dns is because of a nat'ing scheme we have behind two firewalls and a load
director (posts in the past have already described our config).
The freaking SpamCop is because I apparently have Spammers sending an incredible
amount of spam through our web messaging (i.e. bypassing hijack
I've made the changes, but did not make the registry change.
I'll let you guys know what happens.
In regards to the web messaging possible trap, Do I really need to up
the limits for hijack?
It's always been my understanding that web messaging shouldn't send out
as much email as frequently
I've made the changes below, but the SMTP service on Imail wouldn't
start back up.
b
-Original Message-
From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:06 AM
To: Brian Cunningham
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?
I made
Should I be using the SMTP32.exe or the SMTPd32.exe for this process?
Thanks.
b
-Original Message-
From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:06 AM
To: Brian Cunningham
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?
I made
-Original Message-
From: Sanford Whiteman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:06 AM
To: Brian Cunningham
Subject: Re: SPAMCOP:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Not Working ?
I made these changes and restarted services.
But then I stopped receiving emails.
Try
I gotcha.
That could be a problem.
We do have about 5000 + web mail users.
Could this explain why when I make the changes email stops being
delivered?
I've checked the hold(s) and there is nothing being held, but maybe the
processing is delaying delivery?
b
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From:
Gotcha.
I've been using SMTP32.exe (not the daemon).
I just wanted to check because every time I make the change it stops delivery (even
after I roll the SMTP service within Imail, which does start up successfully).
b
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From: R.
Me too.
Brian T.
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From: Russ Uhte (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Report System
If you would like to try it out let me know and I will make it
available
This is Brian Thompson with an update:
Mail server appears to be back up and running. Thanks for all the help.
Still don't know what the problem was, but my declude log shows no entries
from 4:23 pm until 11:58 pm.
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From: Glen Harvy [EMAIL PROTECTED
AHBL-DUL
FIVETEN-SPAM
FIVETEN-BULK
FIVETEN-MULTISTAGE
FIVETEN-SPAMSUPPORT
FIVETEN-MISC
NJABL-DYNABLOCK
NJABL-RELAYS
NJABL-DUL
NJABL-SOURCES
NJABL-MULTI
NJABL-FORMMAIL
NJABL-PROXIES
Thank you for your time.
Brian Thompson
Online Services
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SMTP_DELIV_FAILED
Does this relate to the domain key issue, or ??
Thanks
Brian Baker
I am getting ready to update Imail to version
8.2x.
I presently have declude version 1.82.
Are there any concerns, compatabilty issues or
other potential problems with running Declude 1.82 and Imail 8.2x?
I don't want to have to fix Declude as well as
Imail.
Thanks in advance,
Brian T
not leave a message.
Any one have any ideas to try and fix the
problem.
Thanks in advance,
Brian T.
- Original Message -
From:
Mike N
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:55
AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrades
Concerns
How can I contact someone at Declude as far as a
sales person?
I really need to get this working.
Brian T.
- Original Message -
From:
David
Barker
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:38
PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail
David,
Can you possibly have someone from sales call me?
Thanks,
Brian T.
740-397-4800
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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrading - which version
, and NJABL-PROXIES
Are any of these tests duplicates, as in basically using the same data or
basically the same test?
Thanks for the help,
Brian T.
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. Right now the current MXRate
recommendation is No recommendation ;)
Brian
Andy Schmidt wrote:
Is it me - or should MXRate-Allow be treated as a spam source list?
I don't know how many times I've looked at Spam that made it through
and the IP is on their whitelist, such as campaigner.
Best
This one is a little faster:
(http://\b(?:[0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}\b)
David Barker wrote:
I have seen these if this is what you referring to the second line is
looking for an IP. You could try this in a filter:
BODYEND NOTCONTAINS SEEING YOUR CARD
BODY20 PCRE
:// as well it
should be fine.
David
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian
Milburn
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:42 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] RE: Various Greeting Card messages
This one is a little
It might help to open task manager and reduce the service priority for
the time being to give you a little more breathing room until you get
the problem sorted out.
Brian
David Dodell wrote:
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From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which RBL's
Hi Rick,
FYI, there is also a test in Alligate for this that may nail them
earlier in the process.
Brian
On 9/23/2011 8:40 AM, Rick Davidson wrote:
How would one go about triggering on a message with a blank or missing TO
field?
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Looks like tonight we better figure out a new approach. My declude diag file
is now reading declude lic as invalid. Anyone else?
- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards to...@nnepa.com
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Scott,
Where can I read about the Attach Action? .. I do not see it in the
sample cfg files or the online manual? ..
Brian R. Watters
Senior Director of Information Technologies
Totlcom BroadBand Services
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Wireless EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.totlcombroadband.com
559
Could not agree more! Scott and Declude Make Ipswitch worth putting up
with .. Well almost :)
Brian R. Watters
Senior Director of Information Technologies
Totlcom BroadBand Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wireless EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.totlcombroadband.com
559-420-0205
559-291-1895 fax
Hello all,
Has anyone seen anything about this .. Any good or bad ? .. Bayesian
filtering .. Check this link http://www.paulgraham.com/filters.html
Scott are you thinking along any of these line for the future of
Declude?
Brian
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