RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-10-09 Thread Eirik Bakke
z Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 5:31 AM To: Christian Lenz ; dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: Status of converting icons to SVG Thanks for adding me to the discussion @Christian Lenz, and hello into the void!     Do we have already considered solutions like Nucleo or Streamline, Icons8,  Fluent

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-10-09 Thread David Schulz
is better than to have 10 designer for the same thing. https://www.raiken.studio/ Cheers Chris Von: Eirik Bakke Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. September 2020 19:16 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: RE: Status of converting icons to SVG > I still fail to see the difference between repetetive w

Re: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-21 Thread Tim Boudreau
which used the xBRZ algorithm. > > > > -- Eirik > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Bresie > > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:20 AM > > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG > > > > W

RE: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-21 Thread Eirik Bakke
. This was always the case with the old bitmap icons. -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Eirik Bakke Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 3:46 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: RE: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG > Given that one of my degrees was in Graphic Design, I thought I wo

RE: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-18 Thread Eirik Bakke
while I know the use of Adobe Illustrator is controversial, I'm happy to reimburse a one-month license if you prefer it...) -- Eirik -Original Message- From: Jeremy Cavanagh Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 2:54 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Fwd: Re: Status of converting icons to SV

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-17 Thread Eirik Bakke
ptember 17, 2020 3:06 PM To: dev Subject: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 19:00 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > Using Inkscape will be attractive to programmers (most of the people > on this list), and people who are using vector drawing software for > the first time. Th

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-17 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, 19:00 Eirik Bakke, wrote: > Using Inkscape will be attractive to programmers (most of the people on > this list), and people who are using vector drawing software for the first > time. This crowd does _not_ tend to produce good-looking graphics--after > all, it's not what

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-17 Thread Eirik Bakke
As for the choice of drawing software, this will likely be decided by whoever steps up to do the first batch of 50-60 icons. That said, the choice of tool is primarily a question of which crowd to attract. Using Inkscape will be attractive to programmers (most of the people on this list), and

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-17 Thread Eirik Bakke
: Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:32 AM To: dev Subject: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG Hello Eirik, since Saturday I was talking my son into redrawing some icons. Today he managed to convert two simple ones with InkScape. Let's try the classical PR review process on his icons: https

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-17 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
9, 2020 3:02 PM > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG > > Hi, > > I still fail to see the difference between repetetive work on the code > base working on source code and repetetive work on graphics. > > I worked for a company where the

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-16 Thread Eirik Bakke
hould feel cheated. > > > So if some outside entity wants to try it ok, but be prepared to > > fail, just as a PR is not guaranted to be merged. > Yeah, exactly. But the chance of success is higher if the effort is > discussed here first and people actually like the approach.

RE: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-16 Thread Eirik Bakke
of converting icons to SVG Was just looking around and saw this link [1]. Seems to favor Inkscape but there may also be ways to leverage gimp (another popular graphics tool - not specifically vector based but has some abilities to export with a little work). [1] https://askubuntu.com/questions/301540/export

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-13 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Hello Eirik, thank you for your reply and these lists... > [2] https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/netbeans-icons/prioritized.html > [3] https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/misc/netbeans-icons/ ...they are helpful. There was a question about the amount of NetBeans icons to redraw inside of

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-10 Thread Alessandro
Hello all, I support Erik’s plan. Collaboration with https://opensourcedesign.net/ as pointed out by Neil could be an alternative. Kind Regards’ Alex Il giorno mar 8 set 2020 alle 19:14 Eirik Bakke ha scritto: > In my opinion, the ideal way to do this would be to crowdfund the effort > and

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-09 Thread Eirik Bakke
There's also this thing (see email from Apache pasted below): https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/apache/ https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/ "Interns work remotely with mentors from Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) communities on projects ranging from programming, user

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-09 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020, 20:02 Matthias Bläsing, wrote: > I will pull out of this discussion - I said what I had to say and it > would be great if other people say what they think. > Well, I said it in the other thread, but in general I agree with your post here. There are a few groups promoting

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-09 Thread Matthias Bläsing
wants to try it ok, but be prepared to > > fail, just as a PR is not guaranted to be merged. > Yeah, exactly. But the chance of success is higher if the effort is > discussed here first and people actually like the approach. > > -- Eirik > > -Original Message- > Fr

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
Re: Status of converting icons to SVG Hi Jaroslav et al, The JIRA ticket is here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 In the comments, you'll see attached the .ai files for the icons I redrew as SVG. The following NB modules are covered: ide.editor.bookmarks.ai ide.editor

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
Matthias Bläsing Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:26 PM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Status of converting icons to SVG Hi, yes - I know, I'm the bad guy, but in this case: What makes graphics design different from programming? Why not do a crowdfound efford to get feature X

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, yes - I know, I'm the bad guy, but in this case: What makes graphics design different from programming? Why not do a crowdfound efford to get feature X in NetBeans? With my PMC head on I'm not happy with that approach as it won't scale - when do we endorce a crowdfund efford, what happens

RE: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Eirik Bakke
In my opinion, the ideal way to do this would be to crowdfund the effort and have new icons be drawn by a single paid, professional icon designer. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this. In my experience, drawing an icon takes 30 minutes on average [1], after getting up to speed.

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 12:51, John wrote: > Have you considered inkscape? ( https://inkscape.org ) I'm a great fan of Inkscape, although it should be noted that on certain systems NetBeans will crash it! :-) Can't run both together here. Best wishes, Neil

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Pete Whelpton
I've tried both Inkscape and Affinity - both are great pieces of software, but not ideal for this job, as the artboard functionality of AI is great to be able to look at all icons in a NB module at a time to ensure consistent design (and tracing is much easier/intuitive in AI). TBH, there is far

Re: Status of converting icons to SVG

2020-09-08 Thread Pete Whelpton
Hi Jaroslav et al, The JIRA ticket is here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2617 In the comments, you'll see attached the .ai files for the icons I redrew as SVG. The following NB modules are covered: ide.editor.bookmarks.ai ide.editor.macros.ai ide.seperator.breadcrumbs.ai