Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

2019-04-17 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Antonio wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just to explain that ASF-Infra did setup the rerouting of pages from > netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org this EU afternoon. > > The rerouting worked well, the appropriate netbeans.org pages were rerouted > to the

Re: DTDs and XSDs

2019-04-17 Thread Wade Chandler
steps with infrequent changes? Either way seems doable, but wondering if automated if the script or what ever is still around which we could change up to use git pushes. Wade > On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:35 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: > > dtds here too > > https://github.com/wadechandler

Re: DTDs and XSDs

2019-04-16 Thread Wade Chandler
These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there; https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/ns It seems we should be able to publish then plus new updates. Wade On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 16:35 Antonio wrote: > Hi, > > Yep, too bad we

Re: DTDs and XSDs

2019-04-16 Thread Wade Chandler
dtds here too https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-static-site/tree/master/src/content/dtds Wade On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 22:28 Wade Chandler wrote: > These are probably in the original site copies I made; many files there; > > > https://github.com/wadechandler/netbeans-stat

Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org

2019-04-15 Thread Wade Chandler
Certainly agree just move it over, but too, why not just point to netbeans.apache.org versus that community page? Thanks Wade On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 01:30 Antonio wrote: > Hi all, > > So do we want to > > A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org; > So, for instance, people can

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Recommend 'Apache NetBeans graduation to Top Level Project' resolution to board

2019-04-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Great news indeed! Thanks and congratulations to everyone who has contributed in any way including the Apache mentors Bertrand, Ate, Daniel, and Jim. A big special thanks to Geertjan, Jirka, Jarda, Tim, Jesse, Bruno, Milos, Tomas, Jan, and all the other old hats from NetBeans including the NBDT

Re: Editor tab control UI replacement

2019-04-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Great stuff Tim! Definitely work it in and contribute it. We need more of that versus less, and who better! Certainly if it can be enabled and disabled with a check box in settings it would be great; then can AB test for which should be the default later. Maybe we should start some Apache NetBeans

Re: AW: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

2019-04-08 Thread Wade Chandler
Top posting... Indeed, sounds like some good info! Thanks Wade On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 11:28 Andreas Sewe wrote: > Hi, > > > I want to mention here the repo of IntelliJ the community edition. They > do it as a package inside of the platform called Icons: >

Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

2019-04-08 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 01:58 Antonio wrote: > > > El 07/04/2019 a las 23:32, Wade Chandler escribió: > > > > I discourage such a merge where icons from various modules wind up > inside a single module. The module code itself still has to reference these > things, and

Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

2019-04-07 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Apr 7, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Christian Lenz wrote: > > Hey guys, > > I want to mention here the repo of IntelliJ the community edition. They do it > as a package inside of the platform called Icons: > https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/platform/icons as > you can

Re: NB11 Question

2019-04-07 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Apr 3, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Mike Billman wrote: > > Figured out what was causing this...conflicting files. At one point, we had > a build.gradle file in the same directory so that a gradle command could be > issue to build the webui into our local environment. That is no longer > needed,

Re: NetBeans GUI icons, who drew them?

2019-04-05 Thread Wade Chandler
You're looking at nearly a couple decades of work. I doubt anyone could track down all names etc or even every single source. The best info would come from the hg logs is my guess. Wade On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 19:09 Eirik Bakke wrote: > There are over 3000 bitmap icon images in the NetBeans

Re: netbeans launchers source code location

2019-04-05 Thread Wade Chandler
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 19:27 Gary Bello wrote: > > Wondering where the source code that causes this behavior is located ? > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/nb/ide.launcher Wade

Re: netbeans launchers source code location

2019-04-05 Thread Wade Chandler
Are you using the releases or something else like dev builds on your own? It sounds like you are using the same user directory. Wade On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 19:27 Gary Bello wrote: > Have noticed for some time that nb9, nb10, nb11 consider each version the > same when trying to run one instance

Re: [DISCUSS] Experimental installers for 11.0

2019-04-05 Thread Wade Chandler
+1 link for now. Users! Users everywhere! :-) Wade On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 03:54 Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > Reema has put the installers created from the installer sources in her pull > request on Apache NetBeans GitHub in her repo: > > >

Re: netbeans slack on theasf

2019-04-03 Thread Wade Chandler
Is there a limitation on the Jira tooling preventing using the current Slack? Seems easier to keep it in one place at the moment, then have a bigger discussion about moving it all to Apache Slack otherwise. I don't know about others, but I am a member of multiple Slack groups, per different OSS

Re: Improve indexing and file indentification?

2019-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
This specific item would be its own unique topic and request IMO from indexing. I'd create a Jira ticket for it (please do); I tend to think this would be a “search everything” kind of an item versus specifically a symbol though, but hey. Wade > On Mar 10, 2019, at 5:59 PM, Jean-Marc Borer

Re: Improve indexing and file indentification?

2019-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
I also allocate a good lot of memory to my IDE (NB & IntelliJ both), and have the same experience. That said, there are still times I have to kill NB due to the CPU taking off and indexing too much. I think many of the finds which came out of the ticket I saw Lazlo working on will be some great

Re: Improve indexing and file indentification?

2019-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
Do the later JDKs now automatically choose a good value or behave more automatic (can increase at runtime or something)? Before they did not; the defaults differed between platforms, and were not very high, so the only way to get them was to set them. I wasn’t sure what you meant by “removed”,

Re: Question on: Gradle Project Open Defaults

2019-02-02 Thread Wade Chandler
I prefer it to work and be just like working with Gradle at the CLI; my tasks and config etc. Not sure other context to your question if there is any. What happens from a user perspective with either course? If it loads fast, but doesn't fully work, and I can't be productive, then that would be

Re: State of the Apache NetBeans installers

2019-02-02 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019, 15:43 Emilian Bold < > > If Apache gets more lenient / clear on bundling I could also create a > 'vanilla NetBeans' package with no bits changed except the additional JDK. > Although I suspect the general idea is for Oracle or Amazon to do some > JDK+NetBeans bundle release

Are we working from "release" branches or from master ahead of a release? I think Jenkins suggests "release*" is the case. Now wondering processes etc.

2018-11-26 Thread Wade Chandler
tor%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/configure> Thanks much, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler

Re: [website] maven artefacts webpages

2018-10-26 Thread Wade Chandler
On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 05:28 Eric Barboni wrote: > > Maybe it is possible to have a new "site git repo" for the maven tooling > site that we can put on a subfolder of netbeans.apache.org so it make at > the > end a big site. > This sounds like an idea. I think you are suggesting a job or

Testing please ignore; having issues

2018-08-04 Thread Wade Chandler
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Testing my account; please ignore

2018-08-04 Thread Wade Chandler
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Re: Improving infra @ netbeans?

2018-07-31 Thread Wade Chandler
This would be great for me as it is easy to fall behind when you have to come and go in spurts as things are moving so fast in some areas it is hard to keep up. It would make it easier to contribute further to some things IMO. Thanks so much Antonio Wade On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 01:19 Antonio

Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-24 Thread Wade Chandler
I think it would be good. We already have dev and user. The same reason we decided to start with the 2 until we had any real need for more, versus all the tech specific lists we had at NetBeans.org, seems reasonable, and to apply here as well. If it is an issue, we'll know/see it, and if not, then

Re: Next release can be put together, volunteer for next release manager needed.

2018-06-21 Thread Wade Chandler
Just so everyone knows how semver works (especially semver 2), and if we were to need a bigger convo, we can start another thread (just putting out info for now): https://semver.org/ <https://semver.org/> > On Jun 21, 2018, at 6:58 AM, Wade Chandler wrote: > > Why not sema

Re: Next release can be put together, volunteer for next release manager needed.

2018-06-21 Thread Wade Chandler
+1 to Sven, Neil, and Antonio’s suggestions plus Emilian. It will be great to have Groovy and JS in play! Thanks, Wade > On Jun 21, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Sven Reimers wrote: > > I am in the same situation. > > I think Neil's suggestion about we (the newbies) are going for the next > alphs...

Re: Next release can be put together, volunteer for next release manager needed.

2018-06-21 Thread Wade Chandler
Why not semantic versioning? Asking as it takes care of different meta info such as what we are discussing, and it is quickly becoming an OSS defacto standard from what I can tell anecdotally. Thanks, Wade > On Jun 21, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 at 10:51,

Re: NetBeans Slack?

2018-05-30 Thread Wade Chandler
will get this up on the site. Wade > On May 30, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Wade Chandler wrote: > > Yes, it had a form, on a landing page, and then allowed folks to self invite, > and it had a bot you invited to Slack to let it manage it. They had other > bots too. Anyways, we could defin

Re: NetBeans Slack?

2018-05-30 Thread Wade Chandler
the email address you’d like to use, and I’ll manually invite you; wadechand...@apache.org. Wade > On May 29, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Wade Chandler wrote: > > I will have to look at it. It seems the provider is having issues or > something else is happening. I noticed other users of the s

Re: NetBeans Slack?

2018-05-29 Thread Wade Chandler
I will have to look at it. It seems the provider is having issues or something else is happening. I noticed other users of the service sites are down. Wade > On May 29, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Mike Duigou wrote: > > I've been trying to join the NetBeans slack but the signup site, >

Re: Contrib repo & Community Plugin Repo

2018-05-28 Thread Wade Chandler
I think those things get dated quickly. People tend to like to have recognition IMO, and is why to me the plugin portal grew, and contrib faded off. It would also mean folks putting code there have to keep it up, and we have to rely on them to do so, and they have to be all in on the Apache

Re: Contrib repo & Community Plugin Repo

2018-05-28 Thread Wade Chandler
On May 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > > I don't think under Apache we will be able to have a NetBeans-endorsed > collection of 3rd party plugins. > > Clearly we won't be able to host them, but I'm not ever certain we could > attach the NetBeans (and Apache) brand to a repository

Re: What Coding Conventions Should We Follow Now? What should the IDE default to?

2018-04-26 Thread Wade Chandler
e replies and feedback all. I think I’ll look at this area soon to see what can be done. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler -

Re: Time to branch for the release candidate?

2018-04-26 Thread Wade Chandler
to bring over, but I think that should be our goal going forward once the “drop” has happened. My $0.02, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler > On Apr 17, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christian Lenz <chris

Re: IntelliJ IDEA vs Netbeans

2018-04-20 Thread Wade Chandler
On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 04:49 Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Deklunkifyng NetBeans was never a big goal in Oracle though now, in Apache, > this really seems a doable target and one we can work on together. Many > deklunkification tasks are probably quite trivial. How

Re: How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

2018-04-09 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 05:35 Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 at 03:23 Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > That stuff will make the site git repo bigger and bigger quite fast will > it > > not? That will start to make it

Re: How/where exactly to host the NBMs for the 9.0 release

2018-04-07 Thread Wade Chandler
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 10:57 Neil C Smith wrote: > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 at 15:15 Jan Lahoda wrote: > > > -release the NBMs and the catalog as part of the convenience binaries > (this > > will probably need a little tweaking) > > -have a (NetBeans

Re: NetBeans in April 2018 podling report

2018-03-30 Thread Wade Chandler
Thanks Gj! Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler > On Mar 30, 2018, at 5:12 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Ad

Re: [PMC Chairs] Jenkins job permissions

2018-03-25 Thread Wade Chandler
On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 05:22 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Before we do that, are other committers willing to get the same > permissions? > You need to be familiar with Jenkins of course. > I am. I am also familiar with Jenkins. Wade

Re: Usability study was: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI

2018-03-18 Thread Wade Chandler
Which is funny to me because when I was working most of the time with Swing (the IDE and platform apps), I focused mainly on responsive UIs. I think a lot of it comes down to specifying specifically what we are talking about. Given a specific UI of form components, making a responsive and

Re: AW: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFXfromOracle JDK

2018-03-15 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 15, 2018 10:59, wrote: These things can happen in parallel. I for my part cannot help much with Python or Groovy features, but I can help with the POCs to improve NB UI and make it future proof. If for example we manage to replace JavaFX WebView with something

Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFXfromOracle JDK

2018-03-15 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Mar 15, 2018, at 8:54 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > Anyway, this whole thing is going a bit in circles. We need to look at > improving the POCs in NetBeans to be able to show where (and where not) > this approach is viable and useful. > Agreed, but I think, so IMO,

Re: AW: AW: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-15 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 15, 2018 06:19, "Christian Lenz" wrote: I break with swing, because of the Mantisse Editor. It is ok but Needs enhancements. And I’m fast to create UIs and with JS the binding etc. I think some of the issues with at least some web development is the need to have

Re: AW: Think Java, not Electron! was: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of

2018-03-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 13, 2018 08:39, "Christian Lenz" wrote: There are big players out there. And why I love electron? Because it is fucking HTML, CSS and JS AND for the Backend too. This eco system was build for fullstack developers, who wants to create desktop applications with

Re: Status of the documentation?

2018-03-14 Thread Wade Chandler
Antonio and Neil, I was checking out the site today, and you guys have it rocking! Awesome! The conversion bits you plugged in are sharp too. Great work! Thanks so much! Wade On Mar 14, 2018 17:16, "Antonio" wrote: Hi, Yep. I can see those terrific HTML files out there

Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK

2018-03-13 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 3:04 AM, > wrote: > > Hi Wade, > > I agree, desktop isn't going away. At DukeScript we're using HTML4J Apis > mainly for desktop applications. The Java Desktop Application is just using a > HTML5-Component ("browser") to

Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK

2018-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 12, 2018 11:59, "Jaroslav Tulach" wrote: > "Oracle has begun conversations with interested parties in the Java > ecosystem on the stewardship of JavaFX, Swing and AWT beyond the above referenced timeframes." >>> >> The official announcement is here

Re: Support of Java 10

2018-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 12, 2018 12:05 PM, "Jaroslav Tulach" wrote: > > do we have an agreement to merge the branch from Jan to have at least > > basic > > > support for Java 10? > > > > > > > I hope so, my plan is to send a pull request "sometime soon". > > > > +1 > +1 +1 > And

What Coding Conventions Should We Follow Now? What should the IDE default to?

2018-03-12 Thread Wade Chandler
I noticed that Oracle has not maintained a convention for the Java language like other groups have for their ecosystems. This also has not materialized from OpenJDK: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/codeconvtoc-136057.html

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-11 Thread Wade Chandler
on’t see that as a goal of the NB community, and it certainly doesn’t do anything for all the consumer devices. I do think we can help support desktop Java since we highly depend on it. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadech

Re: Oracle will remove JavaFX from Oracle JDK (was: Re: Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK)

2018-03-09 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mar 9, 2018 18:16, "Neil C Smith" wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 at 22:31 Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Oracle is still committed to Swing and AWT to at least 2026. There is > no mention of removing it. > > So we should keep calm. > Calm is good :-)

Noticed Oracle is Working to Remove Java FX, AWT, and Swing from Base Java/JDK

2018-03-09 Thread Wade Chandler
All Sorry if a thread I have missed on this exists here. A friend of mine sent me this link http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/javaclientroadmapupdate2018mar-4414431.pdf It has interesting consequences for NetBeans. It mentions they have some interested parties looking to take on

Re: Possible Removal of SVN

2018-03-08 Thread Wade Chandler
veral years >> now, is IMHO not something we should give high priority. > > +1 > +1 === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Logo (NETBEANS-145)

2018-03-02 Thread Wade Chandler
Logo ID 2 : +1 Wade On Mar 1, 2018 07:32, "Antonio" wrote: > Hi all, > > For popular demand let's vote about the NetBeans Logo in the mailing list, > that's easier for everybody, right? This will close NETBEANS-145 [1]. > > The received entries are at [2]. > > Please state

Re: The logo, once and for all? (was AW: Merged to master (was Re: A NetBeans website proposal))

2018-02-27 Thread Wade Chandler
When we started this, and Chris did his icon, we had the NetBeans cube; both the blue solid and the red empty sides versions. NB has had those cube icons for decades at this point. Webpack, at the time of his drawing, had a cube in a translucent cube. But, did have the hexgon outline. Has anyone

Re: launcher for windows and building c file

2018-02-26 Thread Wade Chandler
On Feb 26, 2018 17:54, "Scott Palmer" wrote: But I still wonder, why doesn’t NetBeans use the standard java launcher that is produced by javapackager? NetBeans launcher has been around well before that. NB is in itself an entire platform with a module management

Re: incubator-netbeans-website, lightbox and issues

2018-02-26 Thread Wade Chandler
72/linking-a-bitbucket-or-github-repository-with-jira-828787604.html <https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver072/linking-a-bitbucket-or-github-repository-with-jira-828787604.html> They may already be doing this automatically, but can’t hurt to ask. Thanks, Wade ===

Re: launcher for windows and building c file

2018-02-24 Thread Wade Chandler
+1 on the bits here Emilian covered. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler > On Feb 24, 2018, at 5:08 PM, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch> wrote: > > I would also like for us

Future Idea - Apache NetBeans ML (Machine Learning) and Kubernetes Extensions

2018-02-24 Thread Wade Chandler
. This is really just me sharing the concept at the moment to Spark some some interest (pun intended). Thanks, Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com t: @wadechandler https://www.linkedin.com/in/wade-chandler

Re: Apache NetBeans logo

2018-02-24 Thread Wade Chandler
On Feb 24, 2018 14:48, "Geertjan Wielenga" wrote: Wow, you’ve not only worked on the logo but provided an awesome new slogan too? :-) On Saturday, February 24, 2018, Norquay wrote: > “Bringing NetBeans into a new dimension”. I agree this

Re: Apache NetBeans logo

2018-02-24 Thread Wade Chandler
I believe the credit goes to Christian Lenz :-) He also got us started with the new site direction, and worked on the Slack setup with Bruno Flavio and I. A big help on so many things. Many thanks to Christian and James! Everybodies help makes this great! Wade On Feb 24, 2018 14:42, "Norquay"

Re: AW: AW: [news] NetCAT 9.0 proposal

2018-02-23 Thread Wade Chandler
I agree with this sentiment. I have logic that allows one to run or debug a single Groovy test that has been in the main NB code since before NB 8.2 was released, and yet I can't get my value and time spent out of that work yet. Obviously the move has some to do with the wait right now, but I

Re: A NetBeans website proposal

2018-02-23 Thread Wade Chandler
On Feb 23, 2018 11:16, "Neil C Smith" wrote: That has been there for a while. I'd much prefer Gitter if we're going to have one (and not sure if it's a good idea or not) because it's visible without signing up. You can see the history and all here without signing up:

Re: Pace of development

2018-02-15 Thread Wade Chandler
I think my first thought is; Have you contributed to NetBeans sources before? What about other OSS code? Not Jira issues or mailing lists; code. If so, why did you do that, and what was your derived value not just from contributing, but also risk versus reward? There are a lot of things one just

Re: Website repository (was: NetBeans Website Conversion,...)

2017-12-23 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > ...There already is a repo for this: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website ... > > Which

Re: Website repository (was: NetBeans Website Conversion,...)

2017-12-23 Thread Wade Chandler
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > ...There already is a repo for this: > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website ... > > Which

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 13:56, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:20 PM Antonio wrote: > >> I imagine we'll have to go through all those "*.html" files (5504 to be >> exact) and clean then up somehow. >> > > As I said in the long email

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
I will have to give more thoughts to the below Neil. Good stuff though. Thanks Wade > On Dec 9, 2017, at 14:21, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:07 AM Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> > wrote: >

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
On Dec 10, 2017, at 12:29, Antonio wrote: > > Hi Geertjan, > > What's this "the Java SE Quick Start Guide" link you're talking about? I'm > unable to find it. > > Thanks, > Antonio > > El 08/12/17 a las 17:59, Geertjan Wielenga escribió: >>> … Gj, You may not have

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
On Dec 10, 2017, at 15:13, Antonio wrote: > > > > El 10/12/17 a las 20:44, Neil C Smith escribió: >> Hi, >> On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 7:34 PM Antonio wrote: >>> I was suggesting a one-pass tool to reach the "working static clone" >>> state (we're not

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Dec 10, 2017, at 23:45, Antonio wrote: > > >> I am working on section names and scripting along with template names. This >> also merges platform.nb.org in with the other bits; see it as a subfolder >> now. You can see some I have looked at in the Jira story. As far as

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-10 Thread Wade Chandler
Yes, see the Jira issues. One of them is related to scripting out the content and sections. The sections, we really just need to name, then we need templates for them. The scripted conversion doesn't need the templates done nor to be perfect to run however as we can improve those. But, we will

Re: NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-03 Thread Wade Chandler
I imagine we should be able to some how move some of the old wiki bits to Confluence with scripting. Please feel free to add a section and some jira issues, and to take on some attempt at it. We probably also want to figure out which wiki pages are now to become part of the static site; I figure

NetBeans Website Conversion, Plan, and Call for Help

2017-12-02 Thread Wade Chandler
All, I will try to keep this short as one can read details here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/New+NetBeans+Web+Site+Planning I’m still working on the site planning page, but I think

Re: Committer guidelines

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
> On Nov 16, 2017, at 16:42, Antonio wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if there're any guidelines for new committers. I assume that > the ones at https://netbeans.org/community/guidelines/ still apply after the > Apache donation. We could update that and add this to our

Re: Kanban / Scrum / Boards

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
John, Do you know if we can also create Epics? Thanks, Wade > On Nov 16, 2017, at 17:07, John McDonnell wrote: > > I created a basic Kanban board there to get a starting point, I’ll look to > clean it up next week. > >

Re: Kanban / Scrum / Boards

2017-11-16 Thread Wade Chandler
I would very much be in favor of this. See the email I sent in November with the Subject “Jira Epics, Boards, and Agile Management, and What Other Projects Are Doing”. At the moment, we also can not create Epics, and I think some of these big picture things would benefit from them. When we

Re: Need Extra Jira Permissions To Create Components for NetBeans in Jira

2017-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
It seems someone has created the “website” component now. Thanks for that. Please see my other message on Jira related items. Thanks, Wade > On Nov 5, 2017, at 09:26, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > In the NetBeans project in Apache Jira, I need to be

Jira Epics, Boards, and Agile Management, and What Other Projects Are Doing

2017-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
All Jira supports agile concepts such as Epics and Kanban boards. What are other projects doing in these areas? It seems as best I can tell they are using these features in various ways; I see boards and epics etc. I would like to be able to create some boards for specific purposes or

Need Extra Jira Permissions To Create Components for NetBeans in Jira

2017-11-05 Thread Wade Chandler
In the NetBeans project in Apache Jira, I need to be able to create at least “website” as a component for managing some issues for that. Who up my permissions to be able to do that, or do we need to ask for that to be created? Thanks, Wade

Re: Gradle

2017-10-26 Thread Wade Chandler
I think whatever keeps it working the best is the way to go for now. I also think there are some aspects of the module center plus what is bundled with NB builds that we should enhance; look at the way Visual Studio Code handles such things as an example. Now, that said, I see why some core NB

Re: NetBeans 9 release date

2017-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Oct 13, 2017 05:59, "Neil C Smith" wrote: In particular, it's no secret I think JavaFX is a dead-end. I'm not sure I foresee a time when either project moves UI to JavaFX - maybe I'm wrong. I have been pondering this as well, but I think that is for old

Re: NetBeans 9 release date

2017-10-14 Thread Wade Chandler
Posting on top here. Regardless of an NB 9 release date, I think 2 things can be huge factors. 1) That not everything we give users comes from Apache NetBeans, but instead we make it super easy to link to projects build artifacts from the idea of the plugin center. IMO, Visual Studio Code is

Re: Should We Have A Users Email Address Now? (To start moving folks from the other lists who won't do dev, but may just ask questions)

2017-10-12 Thread Wade Chandler
right now, already. > > Gj > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > All, > > > > The subject pretty much says it all. What do you think? I prefer being > > able to sort my email without having to rel

Should We Have A Users Email Address Now? (To start moving folks from the other lists who won't do dev, but may just ask questions)

2017-10-12 Thread Wade Chandler
All, The subject pretty much says it all. What do you think? I prefer being able to sort my email without having to rely on special subject additions by email users myself, and if we want to get folks to start moving here, I doubt many of those on nbusers will necessarily want to be on the dev

Re: Squashing, Git, PRs, and Maybe Other Processes

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Fair enough indeed. It would be good if someone from infra or a mentor could tell us if PR merges work well enough from the Github side, unless you all have already been merging by clicking merge on them there, or if those merges have to be done through the ASF repositories and locally. Since I am

Re: Squashing, Git, PRs, and Maybe Other Processes

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Thanks Emmanuel, comments inline... On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:11, ehsavoie wrote: > > Hi, > About squashing : having a single commit makes it easier to > - backport for maintenance > - revert Agree to a point there; it is definitely “easier”, having a single value,

Re: Who is asfgit?

2017-10-11 Thread Wade Chandler
Does the Apache process allow merge from the PR itself on the GH side? If so, that seems a better approach to me. Too, considering a PR, from a submitters POV is generally an atomic operation, the logic in the PR should be addressed then merged as a whole. It would keep magic PR closing from

Re: [legal] [mentors] Incorporating dendencies into the final JAR

2017-10-09 Thread Wade Chandler
If they are NB specific files that seems exactly like what should happen…the files be donated. Is that what you are saying Emi? Wade > On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:45, Emilian Bold wrote: > > Hello, > > For websvc.saas.api/ I see that 2 xsd files, which have the original

Re: Introducing myself & stepping forward

2017-10-01 Thread Wade Chandler
Great to see you here Antonio! Wade On Oct 1, 2017 2:04 PM, "Antonio Vieiro" wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Antonio Vieiro, an old time NetBeans enthusiast based in Madrid, > Spain. > > I've been keeping an eye on the NetBeans incubator process for a > while. It seems

Re: README and Blog

2017-09-30 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sep 30, 2017 5:34 PM, "Geertjan Wielenga" < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: Login there, i.e., create a user and password, tell me what your user name is and I can give you permission access to https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans Done. My Roller user name is "wadechandler". By the

Re: README and Blog

2017-09-30 Thread Wade Chandler
On Sep 29, 2017 05:31, "Geertjan Wielenga" wrote: OK, requested a new blog and ...snip The worst part about the Apache blogs IMO is the lack of mobile support when trying to view them on a phone. Undoubtedly the posts will be linked by Twitter and other mobile

Re: Allow code contributions or focus on release only?

2017-09-26 Thread Wade Chandler
That all sounds like a good strategy to me. +1 Wade On Sep 26, 2017 17:44, "Craig Russell" wrote: > I have no dog in this particular hunt, but if it were up to me I'd > prioritize: > > getting code into repositories with clean RAT reports > getting Netbeans to build and

Re: Form files & manifest files headers was: [Mentors] Review my migration steps was: My first commit

2017-09-08 Thread Wade Chandler
ll it was said that non-Apache-licensed .form files should also be > supported. So always adding the Apache header is clearly inappropriate. > > If I understood better the process for creating and editing the .form files I > could make some suggestions. > > Regards, &

Re: Form files & manifest files headers was: [Mentors] Review my migration steps was: My first commit

2017-09-06 Thread Wade Chandler
Either way, I think doing what is suggested in these couple comments, and what Jarda is saying, are orthogonal. I feel we should take it as it is at the moment, as Jarda suggested, and if it isn’t supported, it isn’t. There is a license file for the project as a whole, and there are files in

Re: Please make more public APIs for 3rd-party-plugins available for languages NOT Java

2017-07-19 Thread Wade Chandler
, but they have limited 3rd party access to some things. I don’t have specifics up at the moment, but have answered enough questions over the years, to have had this gut feeling more than a few times. Wade === Wade Chandler e: cons...@wadechandler.com > On Jul 19, 2

Re: NetBeans and C++

2017-07-14 Thread Wade Chandler
On Jul 14, 2017 3:23 AM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: On 14.07.2017 04:23, Wade Chandler wrote: > On Jul 13, 2017 3:19 PM, "Vladimir Voskresensky" < > vladimir.voskresen...@oracle.com> wrote: > > > On 13.07.2

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