Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
In response to the many great observations that Yury Frolov made, I immediately recognize many of those same dynamics and challenges. There are indeed circumstances and situations that are better suited for RED approaches, and you outlined them nicely. I and my network and colleagues have

Re: [IxDA Discuss] [JOB] Senior Interaction Designer / Information Architect / UX - 2595, Los Gatos- CA, NETFLIX, Full Time

2009-01-28 Thread Andrew Boyd
Dear Netflix Staffing Operations Team, I can see that you are in need of a good interaction designer/IA - there seems to be a disconnect between the corporate understanding of site and mailing list, although granted there is no doubt an archive site where this message will eventually reside.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jonas Löwgren
I have been following the RED thread with great interest and pleasure, deciding not to step in this time -- but now I have to. Regardless, on any given day, or any given project, a vastly experienced designer can be wrong a hundred times and an inexperienced designer can be right a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What to do in an environment run by engineers??

2009-01-28 Thread ali naqvi
Again, thank you for contributing to this topic. My kickoff went really well and I was able to convince the brain behind the project. (An engineer) User tests will be conducted and I might be able to do them much earlier than planned. (These people have already created much of the HW/SF products

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread Andrew Boyd
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Nik Lazell nik.laz...@realadventure.co.ukwrote: Hi all, Does anyone have any experience of using Selenium for testing (http://seleniumhq.org/)? I have been asked to research it's potential for UX testing. I have used it briefly as a developer, but it seems

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread Harry
Hi Nik Your question sounds interesting, but it's hard to make out exactly what you're asking. The idea of having a piece of software that can test UX / usability by pushing a button - this is a wonderful idea, but a complete fantasy. User experience can only be understood by observing the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What to do in an environment run by engineers??

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Michael Micheletti makes some astoundingly insightful points above. All very good and effective advice for the situation being discussed here. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37605

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread Nik Lazell
Hi Harry, Thanks for your reply. I was really just trying to establish whether anyone had found a use for Selenium within a user-experience field. As you said, it does look entirely inappropriate, far more relevant for testing errors in the functionality than any aspect of usability.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread James Page
We use Selenium for Functionality Testing, and have tried it for Usability work. The main way that we have tried to use for Usability is to record and playback user interactions with a site. The challenge is often the script needs some editing. So I don't think it is ready out of the box. I have

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Dave Malouf wrote: hmm? I think I'm still a believer in rigorous methods for making up for the unpredictability of talent and judgment. Actually, Robert's point about experienced and inexperienced designers goes hand in hand with yours. Using great methods

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
So, is the emphasis here on the Rapid or on the Expert part? Is it a RAPID Expert Designer or a Rapid EXPERT Designer? Is it rapid design done by an expert, or quickly producing what could be defined as an amazing expert design? I guess I'm asking if Expert is being used as noun or

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread mark schraad
That is exactly how I read it. RED = RGD = really good designer On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Robert Hoekman Jr wrote: Are we sure that RED isn't just a fancy term for talent? ;) Welcome to the Interaction Design Association

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Rob Tannen
Here's a list of postings related to sound in product design - scroll to the bottom for basic information on acoustics and sound - http://tinyurl.com/c2r65g . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=37669

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread mark schraad
Great quote... where/who is that from? On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:46 AM, Jared Spool wrote: Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgments. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread mark schraad
I completely agree. The conversations that spawned this were all about methods, perspectives, tools, and how a designer approaches a problem. RED does not seem to fit in any of those buckets. It is most certainly an admirable level to aspire to, but I am not sure it does much for aspiring

Re: [IxDA Discuss] (was R.E.D.) Experience

2009-01-28 Thread mark schraad
I hope you don't mind Jonas, but I thought your framing of experience was a worthy topic all on its own... The notion of experience and domain expertise is something that hiring managers are almost always interested in. It leverages years of work and countless failures without enduring the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Abbett
Selenium really helps me in my work -- it eliminates a lot of the tedium that gets in the way of usability testing. For example, I can write a script that will register a new account, login, and navigate to a particular section. This is very helpful when our applications are being redeployed

[IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Morville
Jeffery Callender and I collaborated on this article... http://semanticstudios.com/publications/semantics/000228.php ...and on a collection of icons and images... http://flickr.com/photos/morville/sets/72157612907604234/ ...and we'd love feedback and suggestions. Thanks! Peter Morville

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Selenium (or similar) for Usability Testing?

2009-01-28 Thread Harry
Jon and Andrew have made some very good points - I can see my comment about Selenium being entirely inappropriate was a sweeping generalisation. So - while a tool like Selenium would never be appropriate as your one stop shop for UX research, it clearly can be useful in certain situations, as

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What to do in an environment run by engineers??

2009-01-28 Thread Benjamin Ho
[Jared wrote: I have yet to meet anyone on the development or engineering side of the operation who doesn't understand that a usable design is better. However, not all designs need to be usable to be successful, and since making something usable is often an added expense, it's hard to justify.]

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Dave Malouf
Jim, I'm not so much dismissing as begging for more. I haven't seen enough in your explanation or others to take RED as anything other than hubris, so here is what I'm missing: A framework. A deconstruction of methods and practice. a codification that can be compared and contrasted to other

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Christian Crumlish
doesn't research tend to show that, regardless of inborn aptitude, that talent tends to correspond with incredible commitment to practice and experience? (Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours concept, etc.). -xian- On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Jared Spool jsp...@uie.com wrote: On Jan 27, 2009,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgments. But some people can attain great judgment through just a little experience, while others can have a ton of experience and never attain great judgment. Ooh! Gotta run—someone needs my help transferring $2.5 million from

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread mark schraad
For the record, I was being serious and not flippant. I meant no disrespect to Jim or to his presentation of RED. I know how these posts can sometimes be seen as charged and misinterpreted. When I read Jim's description (which I have done several times), I think of nearly every great

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
I'm in extremely strong disagreement with Jarod in a number of things he states. I disagree with his statement that one does not know where a RED design will end until after it's finished. This is flatly untrue. It's a matter of experience. One has to have confidence of where a design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Christian Crumlish
I'm thinking about promoting a new methodology called R.A.D. (stands for Really Awesome Design). (i kid, jleft, i kid!) -x- On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:51 AM, mark schraad mschr...@gmail.com wrote: That is exactly how I read it. RED = RGD = really good designer -- Christian Crumlish I'm

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
Nobody who wins the 100m at the Olympics does it on their first race. They've spent years practicing and preparing. Similarly, most people who practice running every day will never qualify for the Olympics. To be top of your game, you've got to have a combination of talent, experience,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] URL Guidelines

2009-01-28 Thread Maxim Soloviev
Sushil, I would use cityname.foundation.org cause I think it's easier to remember when you come back to website several times. -- Maxim Soloviev Director of Product Development www.nakea.net On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Sushil snachn...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question along similar

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote: I'm in extremely strong disagreement with Jarod in a number of things he states. I'm assuming you're talking about me (JarEd). There's another JarOd on this list, who often has interesting things to say, but he hasn't participated in this

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
To those, including Dave, clamoring for an in-depth presentation of the structured approach (or as I'd put it, patterned approach) used by designers doing work in this manner, I would first respond that these do exist. Over many projects, and particularly documented projects, there are a number

[IxDA Discuss] Web Directions North - and other web conferences

2009-01-28 Thread Mike Caskey
This looks like a really great conference in Denver on Feb 2. https://secure.webdirections.org/wdn09/aff/WDN09MC I hope to go! Are there any other good webby or general IxD get togethers in the area? Mike Caskey Jared Spool wrote: On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote: I'm

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Leonardo Parra Agudelo
Well, I'm not thinking of the interface, what I'm trying to do is to find a way to look at sound from a design perspective, as a non- musician and non-sound expert, I find extremely complicated to look at sound, and think of it as a useful medium in design, even though in some cases sound

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Angel Marquez
So, if I said music theory tells me that major chords induce a happy state and minor chords the opposite. Are you saying that is not a must know in progressive menu system? I agree with you though. Someone does not have to know it has been labeled and studied with these traits to convey their

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Thanks Jared (and yes I got the spelling wrong in my post). I understand and concur with the matrix you've presented, and where the greatest risk lies. That's essentially why I point out the importance of gaining RED experience (when a designer is inexperienced) by working closely with more

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Gloria Petron
In *Sources of Power: How People Make Decisions*, Gary Klein offers a case study about a baby who almost died in a neonatal intensive care unit. There were two nurses on duty: a shift leader with years of experience (I'll call her Mary), and a trainee (Jill). One night while they were both on

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Web Directions North - and other web conferences

2009-01-28 Thread Dan Saffer
I'm speaking at this conference and teaching a workshop there. The Web Directions conferences are always great, especially for combination designer-developers. Use my speaker code WDN09DSa and get $50 off! Dan Dan Saffer Principal, Kicker Studio http://www.kickerstudio.com

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Gloria asks the question, How does a person measure the depth of their experience, and market it appropriately. I would say that for RED practitioners this is almost always measured in terms of past experience and outcomes. Has the designer/team worked in this domain/specific situation before?

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Web Directions North - and other web conferences

2009-01-28 Thread Andrew Boyd
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Mike Caskey m...@casadev.com wrote: This looks like a really great conference in Denver on Feb 2. https://secure.webdirections.org/wdn09/aff/WDN09MC I hope to go! Are there any other good webby or general IxD get togethers in the area? Mike Caskey Mike,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Yury Frolov|Studio Asterisk*
Todd Zaki Warfel: So, is the emphasis here on the Rapid or on the Expert part? And frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. Good question:) ... I think In the course of the RED project the emphasis changes constantly between Rapid, Expert and even Design :)

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Web Directions North - and other web conferences

2009-01-28 Thread Andrew Jaswa
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mike Caskey m...@casadev.com wrote: Are there any other good webby or general IxD get togethers in the area? Refresh Denver[1] is a good bet. They are also holding a get together[2] for the Web Directions folks and locals. There is also a local IxD group but

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Yury Frolov|Studio Asterisk* wrote: It seems like one aspect is missing in this discussion. I'd argue that typical RED project involves a small TEAM of experts who address various aspects of design challenge and may include a lead designer, researcher,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] (was R.E.D.) Experience

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Mark Schraad states: The practice of assuming that you, as the designer, know enough to move forward without the important touch points that research can bring is arrogant and unprofessional. Well, it certainly is as you've framed it here. However, most experienced designers aren't approaching

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Jared Spool states: Once the team starts to get multiple experts, they naturally will not agree on important decisions. That certainly doesn't match the experiences I've observed, in both cases of multiple interaction experts or in cases where there was one or more interaction design experts and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Yury Frolov|Studio Asterisk*
On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Jared Spool wrote: I'm not sure that's true. In the studies we've done of folks employing Genius Design (still stickin' with the label!), it's almost always been solo designers. - Jared, I don't think we disagree. Many cooks in one kitchen - not

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Telling Interactive Stories - At NYCUPA Event

2009-01-28 Thread Alina
I'm curious what everyone has to say about last night event at Bloomberg with Andrew DeVigal. Was everyone aware of this stories on the The New York Times? Do you think newspapers readers understand how and what to click in order to view and comprehend the stories as they are told? I told

Re: [IxDA Discuss] What to do in an environment run by engineers??

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Berkun
Ali wrote: As a User Centered Design graduate I find it quite irritating to be working in an environment where engineers run everything. My position does not allow me to say much yet as a Tech Writer/Project Manager assisting the engineers on usability issues I have had it! All the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information through sound.

2009-01-28 Thread Angel Marquez
Hey Leonardo,Do read it, it is very good. It is only one page; but, everything on that one page is right on. I could ramble on for days about how I would use sound in exactly the manner you described. I will give you this. It should be a subtle embellishment that complements the design. I wish

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
The term genius is so problematically loaded, that it will never function to effectively describe what is occurring in the situations it purports to label. It is, rather, a sort of throw up one's hands effort at slapping a label on a complex reality. It also carries a high propensity to be

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Boersma
My summary of this thread, so far: JarEd wants to know Jim's answer to the client's question: what are you going to do for me, and how? Jim's short answer: Trust me, I'm experienced! Jim's medium-length answer: My team and I will listen, leaf through existing documentation, do some minimal

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote: The term genius is [...] a sort of throw up one's hands effort at slapping a label on a complex reality. Or maybe, just maybe, the term R.E.D. is an attempt to add complexity to something that is inherently simple. Just sayin'. Jared

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
Jim's medium-length answer: My team and I will listen, leaf through existing documentation, do some minimal research, (paper)prototype, discuss documents, and document for implementation. We've done that before, and it worked then so it will work for you too. My guess is that most clients

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Peter Boersma puts forward another caricatured oversimplification of what actually occurs. It's difficult to respond to it without being drawn into unproductive and uninteresting argumentation, so I'll just let his comment stand for what it is. None of the projects of which I'm familiar with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 28, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Jared Spool wrote: Once the team starts to get multiple experts, they naturally will not agree on important decisions. At that point, they'll require new research to resolve conflicts and further inform the design decisions. This moves them into a different

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 28, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote: Peter Boersma puts forward another caricatured oversimplification of what actually occurs. It's difficult to respond to it without being drawn into unproductive and uninteresting argumentation, so I'll just let his comment stand for what it is.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
I think Robert Hoekman's observation is generally correct. Many situations where RED is useful, if not necessary in order to produce the most thorough, integrated, and successful solution in the shortest period of time or also possibly under additional constraints, result in clients who are

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Boon Chew
I think this is a very potent introduction and reminder of what user experience people do. I think it's also useful as a rough sketch and not as a formal framework, since there's usually not a one-size fits all approach. It's on my list of important bookmarks. Good job!

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Jared Spool states: In my opinion, Jim, the reason why you're seeing these caricatured oversimplifications is that we're all struggling here trying to understand the essence of what you're talking about. Well, I would say that any understanding and desire for dialog must start first with some

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Janna Hicks DeVylder
I feel an opportunity for a 'lunch and discuss' in Vancouver, don't you? It's unrealistic to expect that all of that vast set of issues be laid out here for easy digestion in just a few days. In a text forum no less! Welcome

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 28, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Peter Morville wrote: Jeffery Callender and I collaborated on this article... http://semanticstudios.com/publications/semantics/000228.php ...and on a collection of icons and images... http://flickr.com/photos/morville/sets/72157612907604234/ ...and we'd love

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Sebi Tauciuc
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Andrei Herasimchuk aherasimc...@involutionstudios.com wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 6:24 AM, Peter Morville wrote: Jeffery Callender and I collaborated on this article... http://semanticstudios.com/publications/semantics/000228.php ...and on a collection of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
You've still done pretty much everything but actually define R.E.D. If you can't explain what it is (instead of what it is not) in a clear manner, it's going to be very difficult to get anyone else to understand it, hence all the confusion in this thread. My goal, which I stated earlier, is not

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
http://semanticstudios.com/publications/semantics/000228.php For clarification's sake, are you simply presenting these as deliverables you've seen, or are you advocating their use? -r- Welcome to the Interaction Design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Peter Morville
Thanks for the positive feedback, the constructive criticism, and the questions. The map is intended as a tool to help folks (myself included) think about the mix of deliverables they might use in any given project. It's not intended to be comprehensive (or prescriptive) but rather to reflect the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
Robert Hoekman states: Boy, are you in the wrong place. On this list, one cannot have a dialog without the inclusion of naysayers and skeptics. : ) I think this dynamic is familiar to anyone that's participated in online forums over the past two decades. My approach is not to engage with

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Yury Frolov|Studio Asterisk*
On Jan 28, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jared Spool wrote: Yet, there's still confusion over how this is more than just really- smart-and-experience-people-doing-good-work. You, yourself, said it isn't as much a method as it is a philosophy or approach. Other than a label you've put on your own

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Steve Baty
I see the pixel-perfect design comps as serving one of two purposes: i) As a conceptual exploration of the visual design. That is, a stage of visual design iteration; and ii) As a final pre-production stage in the overall process. So in one sense I'd happily include these into the broader

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel
On Jan 28, 2009, at 7:08 PM, Sebi Tauciuc wrote: Depends on what you mean by deliverable. I would see pen, paper sketching as tools, not deliverables. Of course, you can still show sketches to people, but just to ask questions and promote discussion, not as a final result. Guiding

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 28, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Sebi Tauciuc wrote: Depends on what you mean by deliverable. I would see pen, paper sketching as tools, not deliverables. Of course, you can still show sketches to people, but just to ask questions and promote discussion, not as a final result. As a design

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Gabby
Despite repeated mention of examples and/or documentation about this magical unicorn of a. . . thing/process/ideology/methodoolgy, Mr. Leftwich has yet to provide a link to any of it. My kingdom for useful examples, sir! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 28, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Peter Morville wrote: I lumped pixel-perfect mockups or design comps under the broader category of concept designs, but I recognize that's a (big) stretch. That leads me to a question: what is a good broader category that could include design comps AND their

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
To address Gabby's question, a very small web-sized selection of bits of my own projects can be found at my site: http://www.orbitnet.com/ And though it's from 2005, a slideshow and accompanying set of slides giving very high-level overviews of a selection of projects can be found at: Text:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Christian Crumlish
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Peter Morville morvi...@semanticstudios.com wrote: what is a good broader category that could include design comps AND their equivalents in domains beyond web/print design (e.g., physical buildings and spaces and products)? prototypes? -x- -- Christian

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Jarod Tang
All design professions -- from fashion to industrial to architecture to graphic -- have some functional equivalent of a blueprint. Yes, this is fotal important, especially for demo design ideas to stakeholders as well as communicate with the engineering team. it sketches the affordable

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jeremy Yuille
@Dave and others asking for deeper analysis etc, a lot of this is reminding me of some things I read for my PhD last year, particularly around work integrated learning (WIL) particularly in the health (nursing for example) and education sectors ...and Donald Schön's stuff around how reflective

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jeremy Yuille
oh - and I'll dig out the WIL etc refs and post too. it'll take me a few days though : 43C/110F here all week and there's s much to get through before flying to YVR in .. 5 days.. omg! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org

Re: [IxDA Discuss] (was R.E.D.) Experience

2009-01-28 Thread Dave Malouf
Recently in my Interactive product design class here at SCAD I engaged with my students in an exercise to deconstruct Jesse James Garrett's Elements of User Experience (the diagram, not the book). What was interesting was the formation of a process that had a new beginning that I have not seen

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Andrew Boyd wrote: I'm not sure where you pulled these absolutes from, and I'm not sure that I care - as someone who has used pixel-perfect mockups in conceptual design on multiple occasions to good effect I can say that you are not making a lot of sense to me

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Robert Hoekman Jr
Rather than spending so much time dissecting the nature of discussions on this list, your efforts would be better served by putting on the old marketing hat and crafting a definition of RED that might be used as a doorway into what you consider a more productive conversation. Cheers to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
I've been creating complete implementable specs (along with implementable resources) for software of many types since the 1980s. Many projects exist at increasingly higher and higher fidelity thumbnails until complete pixel-perfect (or whatever format the deliverable will be in) specs are

[IxDA Discuss] Help me categorize UX-related conferences/workshops

2009-01-28 Thread Russell Wilson
I've been asked numerous times to recommend conferences and workshops to designers and usability professionals. I've decided to create a matrix to categorize the various events on two axis - 1) practical to theoretical 2) non-visual to visual If you have 5min, please take the following survey

Re: [IxDA Discuss] User Experience Deliverables

2009-01-28 Thread Andrei Herasimchuk
To clarify my own post: On Jan 28, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk wrote: It's not a big stretch. It's apples and oranges. Concept design and pixel-perfect screen mockups simply cannot be clumped together. Add to the end: ...cannot be clumped together to be used for the exact same

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Free student registration to Intera ction ´09 from FatDUX

2009-01-28 Thread live
Try here, in Vancouver: http://www.gnwc.ca/ On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Eric Reiss wrote: Friends, FatDUX will be awarding one free registration to a worthy design student (at an accredited school) to Interaction 09 in Vancouver. No food, lodging, or travel, just the registration. There

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jared Spool
On Jan 28, 2009, at 6:52 PM, Jim Leftwich wrote: 1) Initial information gathering, stakeholder interviews and discussions, and review and analysis of existing bodies of information and solutions/products/systems/services. In RED, however, this is done very rapidly, and filtered through what's

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Leftwich
I don't think how I and my partners design is anything at all like whatever the design that's been done (as you characterize broadly) in technology design for the past 30 years. I doubt that all of those teams, including the unsuccessful ones you mentioned, approached things from very diverse

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Rapid Expert Design (R.E.D.)

2009-01-28 Thread Angel Marquez
This is the RED http://www.red.com/cameras/ you should be talking about! On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Jim Leftwich jl...@orbitnet.com wrote: I don't think how I and my partners design is anything at all like whatever the design that's been done (as you characterize broadly) in technology