running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
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Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
maggio
, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
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songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
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, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
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Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
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, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and
Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
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6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2
and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
http://www.last.fm/user/maggior
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Based on the specs here, there is no FLAC support:
http://www.pure.com/product/jongo-a240-vl-62148/#Specifications
Actually, there is no lossless format supported.
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Thankfully the Chevette doesn't exist any more. I haven't seen one of
those on the road in ages. My first car was a Chevette...it's a wonder
I'm still alive today. That car had the worst brakes EVER!!
Enough memory lane...
Yes, it is frustrating! The only hope that we have is that something
Rhapsody will support multiple users. I've had multiple squeezeboxes
playing different things at the same time. I'm not sure what the limit
is, but I've had 2 squeezeboxes playing different music from Rhapsody.
You won't be able to use the files from any service on an iPod classic.
Spotify
I've been both a Spotify and Rhapsody subscriber. With these, you can
only download to the device using the mobile apps. As I recall, you
couldn't get to the individual files for the songs with a file explorer
(Andriod). Even if you could, I'd bet money that the files are
encrypted. If you
Running the current squeezebox software version I have had no tech
support issues (knock on wood!!). Things appear to be stable at this
point. My wife and kids even haven't had any trouble.
What concerns me is I currently subscribe to Rhapsody and my daughter
uses slacker a lot. If those
Is there anything unique about those files regarding sampling rate or
sample size? I'm not sure that the SB3 (aka Classic) supports anything
higher than 16bit 44.1hkz FLAC files. Are they mulitchannel FLACs?
maggior's
Thanks for that Pippin. Given your situation as you describe, I have
more confidence that supporting the older squeezeboxes won't fall off
the bottom of your to-do list.
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I think age demographic plays a lot into it. We are Rhapsody
subscribers. I use it now and then to try out new music. My 9 year old
daughter uses is all of the time.
We use it at home. It would be great to use on the go, but I'm not
ready to take on another monthly bill in the form of a
prabbit wrote:
This is good information to know. It means my hardware won't be
supported...at least not initially.
Same here. Unfortunately, my most used squeezeboxes are Booms and SB3s.
My wife's Radio is a glorified alarm clock and I have one Touch in the
family room that gets used
socistep wrote:
+1
I have been running vortexbox for a number of years and its great, not
just for auto ripping CD's but also DVD's which are both then
automatically updated on LMS and plex for Roku DVD streaming. The CD
tagging accuracy is very good, occsionally get a unknown artist but
garym wrote:
I'm not sure about options, but without changing anything it produces
.mkv files. And runs PLEX for streaming video to other things (boxee
box, roku, etc.). I ripped some DVDs but haven't actually set up a way
to stream to TV yet.
Huh, interesting. From a quick googling, it
What form will the community hardware take? Community software
projects make sense, but I've never heard of a community hardware
project. Will it be a parts list? A kit?
It's interesting to see this little projects taking root. Hopefully one
or all of them will take off.
I read through some of that thread and the wiki article was
interesting.
Perhaps I missed in in the 79 pages of posts, but are there plans for
this hardware will be disceminated?
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Thank you John, that clears it up for me.
Interesting developments on multiple fronts here.
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I registered my email address on the ickstream website but never got the
email to confirm. I entered it twice, so I'm sure I put the correct
email address in. Have you been having trouble with that?
Thanks.
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pippin wrote:
We have also done some prototyping of running our platform on
Squeezeboxes and have a plugin that makes it possible to use LMS as
content provider for local music. This way we want to make sure you can
keep your Squeezeboxes alive even when Logitech ends the support for
them.
One request:
please please please make gapless playback of LAME mp3 and FLAC a must
have feature and not something left to be dealt with after release.
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pippin wrote:
Running on Squeezeboxes currently means our software client runs in
parallel to the MySqueezebox.com integration so you can use the original
system of ours and seamlessly switch but at least right now we don't
have combined playlists or something.
Gapless works right now, I
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cliveb wrote:
It staggers me that anyone can contemplate building a new music playback
device that doesn't support gapless. There is so much music out there
which needs gapless support that it should automatically be on the
mandatory features list before you even begin thinking about the
Wow Andy, I'm so sorry to hear that. Things must be desperate if they
are laying engineers of your calibre off!! What a shame!
You have personally helped me out with various issues over the years,
and I thank you for that! Your level of support for the user community
was top knotch!
Best of
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We use slacker, pandora, and rhapsody. Rhapsody is the only premium
service we use.
On a regular basis, different squeezeboxes are streaming different
content from Rhapsody. If that capability was lost, I'd drop rhapsody.
1-3 don't apply since we have a single account.
4 - Yes, it would be
erland wrote:
For those of you who are living together with a spouse or kids, I'd like
to understand a bit better how you would like to use local music
libraries in the future. Ignore what's supported in LMS and Squeezebox
today and instead think about how you would like it to work in the
There probably aren't enough squeezeboxes out there for TuneIn to care
about. You also have to factor in that the number of squeezeboxes out
there is not growing, they will probaly shrink as people stop using them
or they fail.
You're assuming it being run by anybody.
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downtime wrote:
Thanks maggior and Pascal. I have tried it without the wifi card with no
luck - the S/PDIF light still glows red but no boot up. I bought this SB
new in the summer of 2007, so it's seen some use, but never been opened
before.
Below is a photo of the other side of the card
You might push on what's on the other side of the baord where the solder
joints are whiteish. As you push on them or try to wiggle them *gently*
see if you see the solder joints or what is poking through them moving.
Did you try using the SB with the wifi card removed? It will work
without it
Taking inspiration from musical terms in latin, how about these in
spanish:
caja naranja (orange box). Maybe run it together...cajanaranja. Mash
them together to make up a new word...caranja, or la caranja. caranjita
- little orange box.
delgada (slim)...delgadaBox (abbreviated dB).
This is
TheLastMan wrote:
The last few posts remind me of a Douglas Adams's Hitch Hiker story that
humans are the descendants of exiled Golgafrinchan management
consultants, hair dressers, telephone sanitizers and marketing
executives.
The Golgafrinchan race thought they would be so much better
If you look at the now playing screen on the web page of the server, it
will have an inication that the FLAC and been transcoded to mp3. Also,
if you look at the properties of the file from the now playing screen on
the web page, it will show it is being transcoded.
It's not being transcoded. If it was, you would see something in the
bit rate indicating it was transcoded. You might also see something in
the file format information.
Are you sure you have the bandwidth to support playing FLAC over the
internet? You need to have enough bandwidth on both the
Could also be compression that is going on in the data path. Is there a
control panel app for your soundcard? Some of them will do horrible
things to enhance the sound by default that do nothing but muddy up
the sound. I seem to recall creative doing this at one point with their
sound cards.
The rebranding of squeezebox to UE is pretty lame, but UE's headphones
are very good and are quite respected. You can get custom shells made
from molds of your ears, which is geared mostly to the professional
musician. UE had great products before Logitech bought them (sound
familiar). So I
It's too bad there aren't more settop boxes like the Revue that run
Android. The advantage there is you have optical output for audio
rather than relying on lossy bluetooth or using a headphone output as a
line-out.
The revue can't run squeezeplay because squeezeplay is built for the ARM
The problem is that squeezeplay has low level code (probably written in
'C') to decode FLAC and mp3 natively. That code will be processor
specific. Something like OrangeSqueeze is formatting messages to send
to the squeezebox server, parsing responses, and presenting it all in a
nice UI. Yes,
Julf wrote:
Well, the Atom should be able to run squeezelite just fine...
I don't think people will want to invest time working on a dead product.
I own 2 of them only because they were cheap during the fire sale that
transpired after Logitec killed it off. They work well for using
Netflix
jsmithlon wrote:
Which other system can do that except the Sonos which is much more
expensive than the SB?
To answer your question, there is no other product out there at the
moment.
Regarding the expense of Sonos, it's not as bad as it used to be. The
players are expensive and then you
erland wrote:
Agreed, price isn't an issue, honestly it has never been, if I compare
what I've payed from my music collection and other audio equipment,
Sonos devices for a few rooms always have and still is nothing in
comparison.
[...]but I've decided to wait and see what the market
With the prevelance of iPods, iPhones, and Andriod devices, I think it's
reasonable to put forth a squeezebox replacement without a display and
rely on another device for the display/control. It seems to be working
well for Sonos.
The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make
A replacement of the touch would be nice, but I have a feeling that a
replacement for the Boom would have a wider appeal and would be higher
up on Logitech's priority list. The Boom replacement I envision would
be the UE Radio with 2 speakers.
It would be great if in the future they could
nelamvr6 wrote:
Meh.
If it happens, it happens.
But I have discovered in the last few days that there are plenty of
devices out there that can perform the Touch's function if UE doesn't
release a new product.
Right now, my Touch is working perfectly. Since there are no moving
djfake wrote:
Sad news indeed, but Logitech has put the death squeeze on the entire
Squeezebox line. Good news is that the software will live on, but bad
news is they own the patents? for the devices. Will someone come along
and buy the line? Will the old SlimDevices team buy it back? Will
Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices. A
friend at work told me today I need to give up on the squeezebox
thing. He recently bought a Grace Radio because he wanted something
generally compatable with his various uPnP devices. Why do you need a
special server? he
amcluesent wrote:
Oh, the shame - guidance on migrating from Squeezebox to
Sonos...http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?t=31016
Tis a shame, isn't it? I've recently checked out Sonos myself to see
what my options are when/if the day comes that I need to abandon my
squeezebox setup. Given
Only if people are actually paying those asking prices for them.
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Hi db122 -
Just to give you a heads-up, I submitted a log captured when trying to
play an album from Rhapsody. Orange Squeeze will let me navigate my
library and hit play. On the screen it appears like it is starting to
play, but nothing happens on the squeezebox. No errors are reported by
Sonos has a full sized product display in my local Target (a mass
retailer here in the US - a more upscale version of WalMart). The
display includes an andriod device where you can interact with the
player. Quite slick. Too bad Logitech was never able to do something
similar :-(. The closest
My daughter has been using her's since she was in the first grade (6
years old). My wife uses our duet in the kitchen all of the time...and
has for years. My wife gets easily frustrated with electronic stuff and
has managed to have no trouble with the duet.
Granted, if she had to set it up all
I have both squeeze commander and orange squeeze. Squeezecommander is
less intuitive to use, but is very feature rich. OrangeSqueeze is more
intuitive to use and has a much more polished look to it. Feature-wise,
it is quickly catching up to squeezecommander. The developer is VERY
responsive.
I would regularly come upon that message with squeezecommander. When I
first started using orangesqueeze, I found myself exiting it a lot by
accident. I must have gotten used to it now because I don't exit out
accidentally any more. It did take me quite a while to get used to it
though. Part
erland wrote:
Honestly, I think you will have better success to make a difference if
you post it in public, official support forum, facebook, twitter or
similar. Most companies are more afraid of bad publicity than a single
user who complains to them via private mail.
This is the company
amcluesent wrote:
Sonos must be amazed that their main competitor self-destructed
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Got the latest preview last night. I like the new icons for the
controls - they look very professional now.
Thanks so much for your continued work on this app - great stuff!!
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db122 wrote:
Not sure about #1, as I don't have Rhapsody. But I am sure we can get it
fixed, but it might be easiest to have you contact me directly at
supp...@orangebikelabs.com and I will figure out a way for you to get me
the logging information I need. If you are running a pre-Jellybean
I've been using the preview version exclusively since it's been made
available. Overall, I've found it stable and improved. A couple of
things I've noticed:
1) I can't use rhapsody. I can search and navigate my rhapsody library,
but when I select something to play, it doesn't do anything.
2)
I had to laugh because I I happen to be listening to Muse at the moment
(The 2nd Law).
I'm intrigued to see what the new UI is going to look like. Looks good
so far :-).
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erland wrote:
If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole.
Exactly! Very well put! It is for this reason I've chosen not to get
too upset about the situation.
And I agree that there isn't anything Logitech would be willing to sell
at this point since UER
At this point, prices will probably go up, especially one it is only
available through 3rd party sellers. It happened before with the
receiver and the boom. There is still a great demand for these.
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If it weren't for people like Ben, Michael, Andy, Dean, Felix, Richard,
Sean, etc., I think the squeezebox would have withered much sooner than
this. Ben gave us a glimpse in a recent posting of the inner workings
of the team and how they championed the Squeezebox and stayed true to
the cause.
I know Sonos has controller apps for phones and tablets, but I don't
think there are players. That would be a deal breaker for me at this
point since I regularly use my andriod media player and my iPod Touch as
portable squeezeboxes in my house and on family trips when we have
access to WiFi.
aubuti wrote:
Aren't people already doing that with the iPhones and the
iPeng-as-player add-on? And maybe with comparable hardware/software for
Android devices?
Yes, this is easily done on Andriod devices too with SqueezePlayer and
either Orange Squeeze or Squeeze Commander. I don't have
How ironic that we are talking about how Logitech (squeezebox) should be
more like Roku when the squeezebox trounced the Roku music streaming
device 5 years ago or so. Roku rose from the ashes by revinventing
itself.
aubuti wrote:
Very true. I remember giving the Roku boxes (particularly 'this one'
(http://soundbridge.roku.com/soundbridge/index.php)) a serious look when
I was wading into the network music player world seven years ago. If I
remember correctly, the Roku having only wifi (b) was the
vw195 wrote:
The biggest factor for Squeezeboxen for me is that they are dedicated
devices with good sound quality.
For me its a bit of a pain to turn on bt, pair, switch to music app etc.
Its much more simpler just to hit play on the device or unplug my radio
and drag it all over the
erland wrote:
Have you tested or do you think you would be able to hear difference
between a lossless file and a 190kbps MP3 in the car environment ?
Just asking to get a feeling how good your car audio environment is,
because if you can't hear difference between a lossless file and a
I dowloaded the update today and i got the fix for tapping the artist
and getting the album list. Thanks for a prompt fix...great to see
active support on this app!!
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aubuti wrote:
I'm no expert on the industry, but my reading is that if Logitech has
any new offerings in the music category it will be more devices like
their AirPlay radio, and maybe their Bluetooth devices.
I tend to agree, though Pippin's comment (assuming the hiring is
specifically for
db122 wrote:
I totally understand why you don't upgrade and I'm not trying to
encourage you to do it. I've made it a point to support versions back to
at least 7.3, because I know people are running that with NAS devices
that are hard/impossible to upgrade. I think I have a VM already with
Glad to see some life with this app. I've been using it exclusively on
my Samsung Galaxy 4.2 player (gingerbread based). I also use it from
time to time on my WiFi Xoom. Compared to SqueezeCommander,
OrangeSqueeze has a more fresh look and feel to it.
In using it, there are a couple of things
db122 wrote:
This is dependent on server version. I believe it works for current
server versions, but may fail on some older ones. There is some logic in
place to maintain support for older servers, but the cutoff may not be
exact or there may be more than two sets of behaviors necessary.
On netflix I watched the video from Classic Albums about the making of
Machine Head. In it, Jon talked about how me made that organ sound
running it through amps and such. I never really appreciated his organ
sound until watching that. As Alfista points out - it takes more than
just a cursory
I am a iPeng user and there are a large number of Apple iPod products in
our household. Since the iPod supported gapless playback of LAME mp3
files, I've been a strong supporter of iPods.
I also own some Android devices...
In response to Erland's post, I have to say that his requests would fit
Anybody that complains that it is too much money is out of their mind.
When my daugter got her ipod touch, i was all set to pay for the
playback feature again. I didn't have too. Plus you get free upgrades
for eternity. there's no pleasing some people!
erland wrote:
As already mentioned, running SqueezePlayer on Nexus Q, could make it
into a really cool Squeezebox, compatible to all our other Squeezeboxes
and possible to remote control with all our normal Squeezebox remote
controls, and making all streaming services we are used to
TheLastMan wrote:
...she looked at me as if I had just suggested she should ditch Harvey
Nichols and start buying her clothes at Primark!! (you have to be
English to understand the implications of that...)
That's funny! I'll attempt a translation: ...ditch Talbots and start
buying her
I read 3 and thought uh, that's the Boom, but then I realized you
meant something you can connect your own speakers too. In the world of
powered speakers, would that really be necessary. Somebody that is
inclined to buy their own passive speakers would also be inclined to buy
their own
erland wrote:
So, what's missing, what features do you think would make everyone
purchase a Squeezebox instead of Sonos ?
Is it just the lack of hardware with Logitech logo on the front as
TheLastMan suggested or is there something we could do in software that
would make everyone select a
We just got my daughter a current generation 8GB iPod Touch (4th gen I
believe) for $170 from Amazon. I'm shocked at how the price has come
down. This was even less expensive than a refurb of the same model from
Apple.
Local stores in our area have had them price similarly. Look out for
I use SqueezeCommander and I like it. I also use iPeng, so
SqueezeCommander seemed very familiar to me when I started using it -
they both share similar UI elements.
Now that iPeng's playback supports gapless playback, I can appreciate
the inegration of the player and controller app. I may
I just downloaded this app. It works great - found my servers quickly.
I like the native feel to android. I could do most things I normally do
with a few exceptions:
- cannot set the sleep timer on a player.
- cannot change the sort order for albums by year.
- when I start playing an album
Squeezemenicely wrote:
I definitely listen to more music than before - and my CD player is
getting jealous, since the SBs are getting so much more attention.
My CD players are suffering from complete neglect. They could get up
and walk out and I wouldn't even notice. Don't think they'd be
you equally good fidelity with a much simpler
solution.
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Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running
SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5 and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934
fiercely
anti-Apple, that would be my suggestion.
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Rich
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Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running
SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5 and SqueezeSlave.
Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums
radio.
If only my cars would allow for an aftermarket stereo. They are OK - I
could certainly do worse...I just don't like having no choice.
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Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running
virgiliomi;694111 Wrote:
Added my comments to it... awaiting moderation.
ditto.
To the OP - thanks for the heads-up on this blog post. Hopefully we
can overwhelm the blog with our posts showing that the SB community is
alive and well!
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