Re: [slim] squeezeboxes ramdomly playing scary music at full volume
I had a username and password set up and was using a non standard port (9001). They still got in :(. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezeboxes ramdomly playing scary music at full volume
mherger wrote: > > It's reassuring to know it isn't just me that this happened too. > Scared > > the hell out of my family. > > I was wondering whether this was just one guy having fun, or whether LMS > > exposure now is part of some penetration test or other hacker tool > kit... > > -- > > Michael The way the attack seems to have evolved (now using scary sounding deathmetal music) it seems like somebody having fun pulling a prank. Shutting down squeezebox server didn't stop the music. I was thinking perhaps this is because it was coming form an internet radio stream? If that's true, it seems like somebody is tweaking the attack to maximize the impact. One never knows though. In the other thread, I noticed one affected person is from Sweden. I am in the US. Whoever is doing this isn't limiting themselves to a small geographical area. I wonder if this is being reported in the official support forum. I came to this forum because it is what I'm familiar with and last I knew it was still active. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezeboxes ramdomly playing scary music at full volume
Thank you very much for the reply. Port forwarding is now turned off :). It's reassuring to know it isn't just me that this happened too. Scared the hell out of my family. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] squeezeboxes ramdomly playing scary music at full volume
Anybody else have this happen to them tonight. The booms in my kids rooms started playing scary metal music at full volume. I would turn them off and they would in a few minutes turn back on. After a while all of them were playing either a scary metal song or some scary rap song. I couldn't figure out what was going on and I just pulled the plugs on all of them. I disabled the server and I don't think that had an impact. The squeezeboxes were connected locally...I verified that they weren't connected to mysqueezebox.com Seems like a hacker is having fun...not sure if this is a widespread thing or not. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Will squeezeplayer work on the new Kindle FireTV? If so, that makes for a pretty cheap headless squeezebox player at $99 plus the cost of the squeezeplayer app (if you don't have it already). Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox is (not) dead... One year later.
bklaas wrote: I play prankster and, using either the smartphone app or the web browser, keep pushing Bangarang by Skrillex I used to do this to my wife while I was at work. She would be playing something mellow like 10,000 maniacs and I would change it to play Megadeth :-). My squeezeboxes are all very actively used along with android and iOS players. Right on Ben - nothing else compares! Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99919 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
I gave up on the free Logitech squeezebox app. It was not as responsive as the other apps and just replicated the squeezebox controller interface without adding any usability or functionality. I had squeezecommander before the Logitech app was released, so I loaded the Logitech app just out of curiosity. It's been a while, but I seem to recall there was something pretty major that was missing that I couldn't do with the squeezecommander app. Though I started out with squeezecommander, I now prefer orange squeeze because it is currently under development and does everything I need. The UI is responsive and is visually appealing. Managing multiple players is easy as is setting up sync groups. You can also start up an android based player (squeezeplayer) directly from within the controller app. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
There is something called OrangeSqueeze. It is actively under development. There is a stable release and an experimental release that is currently being updated regularly. I like it - it works well on both my android mp3 player (phone form factor) and on my tablets (7 inch samsung and 10 inch zoom). When you buy the app, you get access to the experimental release. The experimental is stable enough that I use it all of the time. Both can exist and work on the device. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Samsung enters the fray...
Expensive though!!! For a single stereo setup, you have to buy 2 - that's $800!!! I wonder how good the sync is to get them to work as a stereo pair. I wonder if the shape actually has 2 speakers in it...these articles are pretty light on the details. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=6 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What should replace my Squeezebox system?
Apesbrain wrote: I am particularly interested in this investigation into low-cost android player options: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99865-Android-TV-Sticks-Boxes-as-Squeezebox-Replacement I'm intrigued by this too!! These are more functional than the old squeezebox receiver and cheaper!! If you are familiar with android, it looks like the setup on it is not a big deal. The only drawback of a solution like that is Rhapsody won't work (perhaps others too) because they require real squeezebox hardware and won't work with the software players. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99871 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
I got the updated preview yesterday too. I like the larger album art on the tablet and the side pullout menus for the players and stuff. I also like the side swipe to get to the current playlist. The release notes said that there will be some configurability with the tablet views, which will be nice. I was surprised because I really thought it was the end of the line with updates...which given the state of the squeezebox would have been understandable. Regarding the comments by Pipping about making money writing apps - I always wondered about that. It boggles my mind that you pay once for an app and get free updates forever. As a customer, it's great, but it must be hard for developers. It's pretty sad that the way to make money is to give it away for free and put ads in it. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
bluegaspode wrote: SqueezePlayer works fine on Intel devices (even Mips devices). There are already Android devices out there running on i86. Revue is special, as it runs a heavily modified version of Android, which does not support the Android NDK. Oh, OK. That clears that up!!! Thanks! So, in the future I shouldn't shy away from an Intel based andriod device for fear of things like squeezeplayer not working. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
I saw today that Samsung has refreshed its galaxy tab line to be released in the US early July. I found it interesting that the 10 inch tablet will be using an Intel processor. Does this mean that, like on the Logitech Revue, squeezeplay won't run on it? I don't plan on buying one of these, but I was curious. I suspect compatability with other media players (Pro Player, Poweramp, etc.) will be an issue too. Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(
Based on the specs here, there is no FLAC support: http://www.pure.com/product/jongo-a240-vl-62148/#Specifications Actually, there is no lossless format supported. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97440 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Alternate Universe or Nightmare?
Thankfully the Chevette doesn't exist any more. I haven't seen one of those on the road in ages. My first car was a Chevette...it's a wonder I'm still alive today. That car had the worst brakes EVER!! Enough memory lane... Yes, it is frustrating! The only hope that we have is that something worthy will fill the vacuum left with the demise of the squeezebox. In the meantime, I'm lucky that my setup was fleshed out enough that I don't need any more players and I can't imagine needing any more soon. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid streaming service recommendations
Rhapsody will support multiple users. I've had multiple squeezeboxes playing different things at the same time. I'm not sure what the limit is, but I've had 2 squeezeboxes playing different music from Rhapsody. You won't be able to use the files from any service on an iPod classic. Spotify leads you to believe that you might be able to do this, but you can't. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98798 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid streaming service recommendations
I've been both a Spotify and Rhapsody subscriber. With these, you can only download to the device using the mobile apps. As I recall, you couldn't get to the individual files for the songs with a file explorer (Andriod). Even if you could, I'd bet money that the files are encrypted. If you could strip the encryption, you could always transcode from ogg to mp3, or whatever rhapsody uses to mp3. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98798 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
Running the current squeezebox software version I have had no tech support issues (knock on wood!!). Things appear to be stable at this point. My wife and kids even haven't had any trouble. What concerns me is I currently subscribe to Rhapsody and my daughter uses slacker a lot. If those services change their interfaces requireing updates to the squeezebox apps, then I have an issue. At that point, I would probably replace my kids' Booms with bluetooth speakers so they can stream music from their iPod. But for now, everything is good. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems playing FLAC
Is there anything unique about those files regarding sampling rate or sample size? I'm not sure that the SB3 (aka Classic) supports anything higher than 16bit 44.1hkz FLAC files. Are they mulitchannel FLACs? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98769 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
Thanks for that Pippin. Given your situation as you describe, I have more confidence that supporting the older squeezeboxes won't fall off the bottom of your to-do list. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
I think age demographic plays a lot into it. We are Rhapsody subscribers. I use it now and then to try out new music. My 9 year old daughter uses is all of the time. We use it at home. It would be great to use on the go, but I'm not ready to take on another monthly bill in the form of a cell phone data plan. With what I already pay for cable internet, satellite TV, netflix, Rhapsody, etc., I'll stick with my old fashioned feature phone to make the occasional cell phone call. I can load up more music than I could need on my 64GB micro SD card in my android mp3 player, or on my 80 GB iPod. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform
prabbit wrote: This is good information to know. It means my hardware won't be supported...at least not initially. Same here. Unfortunately, my most used squeezeboxes are Booms and SB3s. My wife's Radio is a glorified alarm clock and I have one Touch in the family room that gets used occasionally. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What does VortexBox give me that I didn't know I needed?
socistep wrote: +1 I have been running vortexbox for a number of years and its great, not just for auto ripping CD's but also DVD's which are both then automatically updated on LMS and plex for Roku DVD streaming. The CD tagging accuracy is very good, occsionally get a unknown artist but rarely, every few months I'll manually update the tags with mp3tag to make sure genre/year etc. is how I want it. Having a young family this simplicity and time saving is a big plus for me, my server runs quietly hidden away and vortexbox automates a lot of this, occasionally need to reboot which I can easy do on my tablet via the web interface Huh, I didn't know vortex box supported DVDs too. What format does it rip too? Which Roku are you using to stream? Thanks, Rich maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What does VortexBox give me that I didn't know I needed?
garym wrote: I'm not sure about options, but without changing anything it produces .mkv files. And runs PLEX for streaming video to other things (boxee box, roku, etc.). I ripped some DVDs but haven't actually set up a way to stream to TV yet. Huh, interesting. From a quick googling, it looks like this will work with the Logitech Revue too (google TV). When it creates the MKV files, does it determine the main program? Does it rip the entire disc to a single file? If a single file, is the DVD menu supported? I did look at the Vortex website and I couldn't really see answers to these questions. I should probably just download the image and try it out. Thanks!! Rich maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98423 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze
What form will the community hardware take? Community software projects make sense, but I've never heard of a community hardware project. Will it be a parts list? A kit? It's interesting to see this little projects taking root. Hopefully one or all of them will take off. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98521 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze
I read through some of that thread and the wiki article was interesting. Perhaps I missed in in the 79 pages of posts, but are there plans for this hardware will be disceminated? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98521 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze
Thank you John, that clears it up for me. Interesting developments on multiple fronts here. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98521 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream
I registered my email address on the ickstream website but never got the email to confirm. I entered it twice, so I'm sure I put the correct email address in. Have you been having trouble with that? Thanks. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream
pippin wrote: We have also done some prototyping of running our platform on Squeezeboxes and have a plugin that makes it possible to use LMS as content provider for local music. This way we want to make sure you can keep your Squeezeboxes alive even when Logitech ends the support for them. Interesting. This explains some things Erland has said in the forums :-). It seemed like he was privvy to something going on. I'm curious what you mean by running our platrorm on squeezeboxes. Are you replacing squeezebox firmware? Or are you referring to using squeezeboxes in a mixed enironment with ickstream devices? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream
One request: please please please make gapless playback of LAME mp3 and FLAC a must have feature and not something left to be dealt with after release. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream
pippin wrote: Running on Squeezeboxes currently means our software client runs in parallel to the MySqueezebox.com integration so you can use the original system of ours and seamlessly switch but at least right now we don't have combined playlists or something. Gapless works right now, I believe, although I would have to doublecheck? I believe that's currently just an implementation detail. But both gapless and synchronization are basic design requirements although syncing in our system is the one thing that is more challenging compared to the SB although Somos does get it to work fine with a similar approach. Thanks Pippin. I'm glad to hear both gapless and synchronized playback are design requirements. I'm anxious to see what you guys come up with. Given show is involved, I'm sure it will be good!! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above I like juicebox too. To get around the fact that Mattel used it before, perhaps it could be joosbox. The intriging thing with this is you don't realize what it means until you say it or hear it aloud. Or maybe joocebox...joosbox could be pronounced jewsbox - problably could be seen as offensive. I have to admit this isn't a completely original idea on my part. I saw this used before with a media streamer for video called joost. I heard it talked about and was surprised when I saw how it was spelled...and I thought it was clever. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
cliveb wrote: It staggers me that anyone can contemplate building a new music playback device that doesn't support gapless. There is so much music out there which needs gapless support that it should automatically be on the mandatory features list before you even begin thinking about the design. +1 I find the equally befuddling! I understand that formats like mp3 didn't support it in it's design, but the problem was solved long ago!!! And to not support gapless playback of formats that WERE designed for it (e.g. FLAC), it just completely absurd. When I try out new players for my PC or my andriod mp3 player, the first thing I try is gapless playback. If that doesn't work, it gets immediately deleted. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Wow Andy, I'm so sorry to hear that. Things must be desperate if they are laying engineers of your calibre off!! What a shame! You have personally helped me out with various issues over the years, and I thank you for that! Your level of support for the user community was top knotch! Best of luck lining up a new job. As somebody that was layed off 4 years ago, I know it is a very unsettling time. In the end, it was very liberating for various reasons...I hope it is the same for you! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above What about WMD - Wireless Music Device. Kidding aside, I voted for OMB. I like the idea of turning that into tomb, bomb (it's da bomb!), womb, etc. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of online services in your family ?
We use slacker, pandora, and rhapsody. Rhapsody is the only premium service we use. On a regular basis, different squeezeboxes are streaming different content from Rhapsody. If that capability was lost, I'd drop rhapsody. 1-3 don't apply since we have a single account. 4 - Yes, it would be great to be able to track playlists and libraries on a per user basis. Though I'll gladly suffer this rather than pay for separate accounts. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Usage of local music libraries in your family ?
erland wrote: For those of you who are living together with a spouse or kids, I'd like to understand a bit better how you would like to use local music libraries in the future. Ignore what's supported in LMS and Squeezebox today and instead think about how you would like it to work in the future. Do you have a need to let each family member browse their library individually ? If so, where are the music files stored ? On a central computer/NAS, on a computer/NAS per family member or on the portable device of each family member ? If you have individual libraries, do you also have a need for shared libraries which is common for multiple family members ? Do you have a need to keep track of playlists for each family member ? Do you have a need to keep track of favorites for each family member ? Do you have a need to keep track of ratings and playback statistics for each family member ? Does each family member have individual players which only one of the family members mostly use ? If so, should all players be controllable by everyone or do you want access to certain players to be restricted ? In that case why ? Does each family member have their individual remote control/smartphone to control the players or do you also have remote controls which you share between different family members ? If you have a remote control which you share between multiple family members, is it a IR-remote, smartphone, tablet or computer ? How would your dream system work to work as good as possible for usage of local music on Squeezeboxes and portable devices in your family ? Our household is myself, my wife, 2 boys (4 and 6) and 1 girl (9). It would be nice if each user could browse their library separately. That would make it easier for my kids to browse their music within the larger library. What would be cool is if each user could comprise their library themselves from the entire library, much in the way Rhapsody works. Though it would be good to do this at any level, not just an album/track level. For instance, a user should be able to from the top level say add entire library to my library, or add an entire genre to their library, or everything by an artist to their library. Same thing for remove. Our music files are all stored on a central server. They are in flac and mp3 format. Flac is for squeezebox server and mp3 is for itunes. There are ipods and andriod devices in the house. As my daughter gets older, I can see how a need will come up for having a separate music library accessable by my squeezeboxes. If we had multiple libraries, I would definitely want a common shared library as well. My kids to enjoy some of my music. My wife and I would have a lot of overlap in our libraries. For squeezeboxes in common areas (kitchen, family room), I would want seamless access to all libraries. All libraries would have to appear as one large library. If playlists, favorites, and track stats could be tracked on a per user basis, that would be awesome! The boundary should not be the individual's library. This means content can be part of multiple libraries. Yes, there are players used mostly by certain family memebers - these are the booms in each bedroom. I would not want to restrict control though. It's happened where one of my kids would come downstairs saying they want to listen to xyz while they are going to sleep. As they walk back up to their room, I'll pull out my andriod device and cue up their request for them as well as set the sleep timer on it. There are multiple smart devices in the house for control (my daughter's ipod, my ipod and my andriod devices). The controller and remote controls are regularly used too. The main shared controller is the duet controller. it is in the kitchen, so it is centrally located. My wife doesn't have a smart phone or smart device, so she uses the controller. I'm the only one that really uses an iPod or andriod device. My daughter will use her ipod in her room as a controller. We can live with the squeezebox the way it is now, but being able to create library subsets on a per-user basis would be helpful...especially as the kids get older. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98199 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Life after mysqueezebox.com is turned off
There probably aren't enough squeezeboxes out there for TuneIn to care about. You also have to factor in that the number of squeezeboxes out there is not growing, they will probaly shrink as people stop using them or they fail. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98205 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Typical Logitech sales bullshit...
You're assuming it being run by anybody. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98080 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What can I do now? Squeezebox classic died
downtime wrote: Thanks maggior and Pascal. I have tried it without the wifi card with no luck - the S/PDIF light still glows red but no boot up. I bought this SB new in the summer of 2007, so it's seen some use, but never been opened before. Below is a photo of the other side of the card. The blue capacitor (is that the word?) is soldered to the white spot on the other side and the board with input/output ports, etc. is soldered to the line of points with the smear. If it needs to be serviced, do you have any idea where I can send it? Thanks again for your help. It's not only the capacitor that was serviced, that row of solder points below it look like they were hit with a soldering iron too. That whitish residue could be from a spray used to clean residual flux from the circuit board after soldering. I wonder if there was an engineering change that changed that cap and they went back into some inventory and made the change? ...something like that probably would have made it into the forums though... Do you have any experience using a soldering iron on a circuit board? If so, it would be worth hitting the solder joints on the capacitor with a soldering iron to freshen up the solder joint. If that doesn't help, it would be worth hitting the row of solder joints below the cap. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What can I do now? Squeezebox classic died
You might push on what's on the other side of the baord where the solder joints are whiteish. As you push on them or try to wiggle them *gently* see if you see the solder joints or what is poking through them moving. Did you try using the SB with the wifi card removed? It will work without it since it was an upgrade option in the beginning. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97577 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox: Product Name
Taking inspiration from musical terms in latin, how about these in spanish: caja naranja (orange box). Maybe run it together...cajanaranja. Mash them together to make up a new word...caranja, or la caranja. caranjita - little orange box. delgada (slim)...delgadaBox (abbreviated dB). This is a fun exercise :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97975 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
TheLastMan wrote: The last few posts remind me of a Douglas Adams's Hitch Hiker story that humans are the descendants of exiled Golgafrinchan management consultants, hair dressers, telephone sanitizers and marketing executives. The Golgafrinchan race thought they would be so much better off without all the useless service sector workers and middle management. So they stuck them on a space ship and shot them across the galaxy. They eventually landed on the Earth where they set about trying to establish civilization. There was a marketing executive character who was working on developing the wheel but she was struggling to get started because she couldn't decide what colour it should be. I think Mr Adams may have been on to something... I think Simbo is trying the same trick as the Golgafrinchans ;) That part of the book was brilliant and was greatly realized in the TV series. My favorite was fire. Ford Prefect (if not him than it was Arthur Dent) suggested he put something up his nose, to which the marketing person responded yes, that's right...would people want to have fire fitted nasally?.All of this going one while the captain of the ship sits in the bath. Genius! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay: Bad Audio Quality?
If you look at the now playing screen on the web page of the server, it will have an inication that the FLAC and been transcoded to mp3. Also, if you look at the properties of the file from the now playing screen on the web page, it will show it is being transcoded. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97938 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay: Bad Audio Quality?
It's not being transcoded. If it was, you would see something in the bit rate indicating it was transcoded. You might also see something in the file format information. Are you sure you have the bandwidth to support playing FLAC over the internet? You need to have enough bandwidth on both the server and client side. I always transcoded until I upgraded to cable from DSL. OK, I just tried it out myself. When you click on the song title and see the song info on the left hand side, it will say something like this if it is being converted: Bitrate 930kbps VBR (Converted to 320kbps MP3) maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97938 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay: Bad Audio Quality?
Could also be compression that is going on in the data path. Is there a control panel app for your soundcard? Some of them will do horrible things to enhance the sound by default that do nothing but muddy up the sound. I seem to recall creative doing this at one point with their sound cards. Good news is you've narrowed the problem down. Otherwise, yes, an outboard USB dac with a build in headphone amp would serve you well. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97938 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech divesting from some product lines
The rebranding of squeezebox to UE is pretty lame, but UE's headphones are very good and are quite respected. You can get custom shells made from molds of your ears, which is geared mostly to the professional musician. UE had great products before Logitech bought them (sound familiar). So I would be really surprised if they shutdown UE and didn't spin it off. Logitech makes a lot of computer and dock speakers under the Logitech name, so it could be that they are dumping those, not the UE branded products. The silver lining here would be UE gets spun off on its own or sold to another company and since squeezebox is now part of UE, it goes along for the ride. It could still turn into a bad situation, but no worse than it is now (essentially dead, at least no future). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97925 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] replacing squeezebox with android
It's too bad there aren't more settop boxes like the Revue that run Android. The advantage there is you have optical output for audio rather than relying on lossy bluetooth or using a headphone output as a line-out. The revue can't run squeezeplay because squeezeplay is built for the ARM processessor and the Revue runs an Intel Atom. Orange Squeeze looks awesome on it though as a gigantic now playing display. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] replacing squeezebox with android
The problem is that squeezeplay has low level code (probably written in 'C') to decode FLAC and mp3 natively. That code will be processor specific. Something like OrangeSqueeze is formatting messages to send to the squeezebox server, parsing responses, and presenting it all in a nice UI. Yes, this a gross simplification, but OrangeSqueeze can do all of this using native interfaces in Andriod. The app authors can chime in and give you more detail, but that's my understanding of the situation. Back when the Revue had come out, there was a lot of discussion about getting squeezeplay to run on the Revue turning it into a squeezebox - but it wasn't a simple task (could have been an impossible one actually) and given the quick demise of the product, it wasn't worth the effort. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] replacing squeezebox with android
Julf wrote: Well, the Atom should be able to run squeezelite just fine... I don't think people will want to invest time working on a dead product. I own 2 of them only because they were cheap during the fire sale that transpired after Logitec killed it off. They work well for using Netflix and the wireless keyboard is quite handy. So, unless squeezelite can be made to run on andriod running on top of an atom, that would be a non starter. I'm not aware of an ability to root the Revue to load your own OS (Linux perhaps). Again, I can't imagine people investing time to make something like this work. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
jsmithlon wrote: Which other system can do that except the Sonos which is much more expensive than the SB? To answer your question, there is no other product out there at the moment. Regarding the expense of Sonos, it's not as bad as it used to be. The players are expensive and then you had to add the cost of the controller. With iOS and andriod devices being quite prevelant, you don't need that any more, so the cost of the controller isn't a factor any more. Now that I fully appreciate the convenience and enjoyment of this type of system, the cost of the Sonos offereing isn't as bad as I originally thought. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
erland wrote: Agreed, price isn't an issue, honestly it has never been, if I compare what I've payed from my music collection and other audio equipment, Sonos devices for a few rooms always have and still is nothing in comparison. [...]but I've decided to wait and see what the market plans to provide now when Logitech has left a hole before I jump onto the Sonos wagon. I think the following 12 months is going to be more exiting in this market than the last year, there have been more movements in the market during the last 6 months and I'm also aware of some projects which are unknown to the public at this time. So to wait and see and enjoy my Squeezeboxes feels like a good strategy at the moment. I'm with you in your wait and see approach. I checked out Sonos just to see what my options are in case I have to jump ship. For now, everything is working quite well and I'm happy - even after updating to 7.7.2 :-). I perfer an open system, but if a closed system does everything I need, that I'm OK with it. For instance, I like my iPods - itunes is good enough for me, they support robust gapless playback, and they have good accesory options with a line-out option. So, when the time comes I need to move on and only a closed system is available and it does everything I need to do well, I'll be OK with that. I'm interested to see what develops over the next year. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
With the prevelance of iPods, iPhones, and Andriod devices, I think it's reasonable to put forth a squeezebox replacement without a display and rely on another device for the display/control. It seems to be working well for Sonos. The the big issue to solve is configuration - how do you make that not a completely geeky endeavour without the problems that the duet had. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] heard on the grapevine: replacement for Squeezebox Touch
A replacement of the touch would be nice, but I have a feeling that a replacement for the Boom would have a wider appeal and would be higher up on Logitech's priority list. The Boom replacement I envision would be the UE Radio with 2 speakers. It would be great if in the future they could remove the dependency on the server in the cloud to play local music. Who knows what the future holds. Perhaps something will be announced at CES this January? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97579 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] heard on the grapevine: replacement for Squeezebox Touch
nelamvr6 wrote: Meh. If it happens, it happens. But I have discovered in the last few days that there are plenty of devices out there that can perform the Touch's function if UE doesn't release a new product. Right now, my Touch is working perfectly. Since there are no moving parts, I don't have any reason to fear its eminent demise. But if it does up and die, I'd really have to think long and hard about giving Logitech any more of my money, no matter what products they have available at that time. Though I'd find it interesting if Logitech would continue things forward with the squeezebox under the UE moniker, I share your sentiment. I didn't let myself get caught up in stocking up on spares when the Touch price fell through the floor during the fire sale. I did bite on a cheap SB Radio, but that was because my wife needed an alarm clock and wanted something kind of fancy. I'm done throwing money Logitech's way. As my squeezeboxes die or just become irrelevant over time, I will probably look elsewhere for a whole home audio solution. By then, who knows what technology will be available. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97579 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
djfake wrote: Sad news indeed, but Logitech has put the death squeeze on the entire Squeezebox line. Good news is that the software will live on, but bad news is they own the patents? for the devices. Will someone come along and buy the line? Will the old SlimDevices team buy it back? Will someone integrate SqueezeBox functionality into, say a universal player like Oppo, or setup box like Roku? We can only hope... In the meantime, off to eBay to find an old v3! Editorial: I am reminded of all the pro-Logitech zealots at this time, and all I can say is I told you so. The big corporate purchase may have been good for SlimDevices, but what analyst wouldn't have figured that this was a niche device? It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback. Though what has happened wasn't totally unexpected, it certainly did not have to be this way. Part of the issue has nothing to do with the squeezebox but the fact that the company made a HUGE blunder with the Revue, putting the entire company at risk and scrambling to recover. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Most people seem content to use general purpose uPnP or DLNA devices. A friend at work told me today I need to give up on the squeezebox thing. He recently bought a Grace Radio because he wanted something generally compatable with his various uPnP devices. Why do you need a special server? he asked. I explained that general purpose doesn't really work for somebody that has a large collection and wants good sound quality, ease of library navigation, and gapless playback. He just waved his hand dismissing all of that - clearly it's not something he cares about. I suspect his feelings are pretty representative of the typical user. I think that squeezebox-like devices will continue to be a niche product. I don't think you will see this integrated into any other products. Sonos is already filling this niche and is apparently successful at it. No sure that there is really room for any more...is it really that large of a niche? maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(
amcluesent wrote: Oh, the shame - guidance on migrating from Squeezebox to Sonos...http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?t=31016 Tis a shame, isn't it? I've recently checked out Sonos myself to see what my options are when/if the day comes that I need to abandon my squeezebox setup. Given the prices, I'd have to be a little more selective about where I put players, but at least the product line and company appear to have some longevity. In the mean time, I continue to use and enjoy my squeezebox setup. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97440 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better hurry, Squeezeboxes getting more expensive
Only if people are actually paying those asking prices for them. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97469 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
Hi db122 - Just to give you a heads-up, I submitted a log captured when trying to play an album from Rhapsody. Orange Squeeze will let me navigate my library and hit play. On the screen it appears like it is starting to play, but nothing happens on the squeezebox. No errors are reported by Orange Squeeze. Thanks in advance for looking into this. Once this works, I'll never have a reason to fire up squeezecommander :-). Let me know if you need anything else. Rich maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No competition for Sonos! :-(
Sonos has a full sized product display in my local Target (a mass retailer here in the US - a more upscale version of WalMart). The display includes an andriod device where you can interact with the player. Quite slick. Too bad Logitech was never able to do something similar :-(. The closest I saw to this was a boom set up at a Best Buy shortly after its release. I remember not being overly impressed with the setup - a newbie wouldn't really have been able to understand what they were looking at. All water under the bridge at this point. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97440 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just One Question To The Original SD Team
My daughter has been using her's since she was in the first grade (6 years old). My wife uses our duet in the kitchen all of the time...and has for years. My wife gets easily frustrated with electronic stuff and has managed to have no trouble with the duet. Granted, if she had to set it up all herself, that would have been a different story. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Andriod apps for controlling Logitech devices. (question)
I have both squeeze commander and orange squeeze. Squeezecommander is less intuitive to use, but is very feature rich. OrangeSqueeze is more intuitive to use and has a much more polished look to it. Feature-wise, it is quickly catching up to squeezecommander. The developer is VERY responsive. Recently I had suggested that the ability to manage sleep timer on a squeezebox would be very useful. Within a week, the feature was added in a preview release. There is an issue with Rhapsody and OrangeSqueeze that hasn't been addressed only because I've been remiss in getting logs to him. It puts me in mind of the old days of the squeezebox software team where users would report bugs or problems and developers would supply fixes and suggestions immediately. SqueezePlayer is awesome also. I have it on all of my andriod devices - it works flawlessly! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97387 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
I would regularly come upon that message with squeezecommander. When I first started using orangesqueeze, I found myself exiting it a lot by accident. I must have gotten used to it now because I don't exit out accidentally any more. It did take me quite a while to get used to it though. Part of the problem, as Pippin points out, is the inconsistent behavior among apps. This seems to be changing though, at least with the set of apps I regularly use. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
erland wrote: Honestly, I think you will have better success to make a difference if you post it in public, official support forum, facebook, twitter or similar. Most companies are more afraid of bad publicity than a single user who complains to them via private mail. This is the company that brought us the Revue for $250. I don't think they fear bad publicity :-). Sorry, but I couldn't resist that dig. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please tell me it ain't so.
amcluesent wrote: Sonos must be amazed that their main competitor self-destructed maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96999 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
Got the latest preview last night. I like the new icons for the controls - they look very professional now. Thanks so much for your continued work on this app - great stuff!! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
db122 wrote: Not sure about #1, as I don't have Rhapsody. But I am sure we can get it fixed, but it might be easiest to have you contact me directly at supp...@orangebikelabs.com and I will figure out a way for you to get me the logging information I need. If you are running a pre-Jellybean device then you can enable verbose logging in the diagnostics, and use an app like CatLog to send me log files after you browse to your Rhapsody items and try to play them. #2, fixed, again (and again), at least for the 7.5.5 server I'm running locally for testing. Re: sleep.. yes, indeed, I appreciate your desires. Point taken. OK, I'll see if I can capture logs for the Rhapsody issue. In the latest preview, I see you fixed #2! AND you added the sleep functionality. THANK YOU! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
I've been using the preview version exclusively since it's been made available. Overall, I've found it stable and improved. A couple of things I've noticed: 1) I can't use rhapsody. I can search and navigate my rhapsody library, but when I select something to play, it doesn't do anything. 2) The problem with tapping the artist on the now playing screen and seeing nothing found is back. This works in the regular version. Also, do you have plans to add the ability to set the sleep time for a player? I miss this since I use this functionality all of the time when my kids go to bed. I think it could be added to the pop up menu for the player where you can change the player name, change synchronization, etc. Great app!! Thanks. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread
I had to laugh because I I happen to be listening to Muse at the moment (The 2nd Law). I'm intrigued to see what the new UI is going to look like. Looks good so far :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Future of Squeezebox Product Line-Up
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 Question: Would you buy a new Squeezebox player if it became available? - Yes , if less than $100 - Yes, if less than $200 - Yes, if less than $500 - Yes, if less than $1000 - Yes - price is no object; I just want the best sound - No - I would NOT buy another Squeezebox player I responded that I would by if it were less than $500, but that's not entirely true - I wouldn't pay over $300. The only thing I could see wanting in the future was to upgrade my Booms to something with a color or touch display - essentially a stereo radio which people have shown here via photoshop. Honestly, I don't need new hardware. What I'm more interested in is the continuing evolution of the software and capabilities. On top of that list would be a viable alternative to the now-dead MusicIP capability. To me, the value hasn't so much been in the hardware (which is great!) but in the software. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96660 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
erland wrote: If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. Exactly! Very well put! It is for this reason I've chosen not to get too upset about the situation. And I agree that there isn't anything Logitech would be willing to sell at this point since UER contains lots of the SB code. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Crisis means opportunity
At this point, prices will probably go up, especially one it is only available through 3rd party sellers. It happened before with the receiver and the boom. There is still a great demand for these. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96443 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
If it weren't for people like Ben, Michael, Andy, Dean, Felix, Richard, Sean, etc., I think the squeezebox would have withered much sooner than this. Ben gave us a glimpse in a recent posting of the inner workings of the team and how they championed the Squeezebox and stayed true to the cause. Ben even compared the situation to watching your dog die as bad decisions were being made regarding the product line. These guys were obviously passionate about their work and the product line. It was an amazing experience to be involved in the community during the product's rise and hayday. Along with Goodsounds, I'd like to express my sincere gratitude too! You guys created an awesome system for music lovers like myself! This system will continue to give myself and my family great joy for much time to come. Thank you! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
I know Sonos has controller apps for phones and tablets, but I don't think there are players. That would be a deal breaker for me at this point since I regularly use my andriod media player and my iPod Touch as portable squeezeboxes in my house and on family trips when we have access to WiFi. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
aubuti wrote: Aren't people already doing that with the iPhones and the iPeng-as-player add-on? And maybe with comparable hardware/software for Android devices? Yes, this is easily done on Andriod devices too with SqueezePlayer and either Orange Squeeze or Squeeze Commander. I don't have an andriod phone, but on my andriod tablet and my andriod media player, I remotely stream while on travel all of the time. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
How ironic that we are talking about how Logitech (squeezebox) should be more like Roku when the squeezebox trounced the Roku music streaming device 5 years ago or so. Roku rose from the ashes by revinventing itself. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug
aubuti wrote: Very true. I remember giving the Roku boxes (particularly 'this one' (http://soundbridge.roku.com/soundbridge/index.php)) a serious look when I was wading into the network music player world seven years ago. If I remember correctly, the Roku having only wifi (b) was the dealkiller for me. I still think I made the right choice. Yes, the soundbridge. I couldn't remember the name. I had looked into them as a cheap alternative to the squeezebox, which at $300 was pretty steep at the time. The deal breaker for me was that it didn't support gapless playback. It was shortly after I had looked into them that they stopped making them. Like you I think I made the right choice. If I decided to sell one of my SB3's today, I wouldn't get my $300 back, but I'd probably get $150. You probably couldn't give a soundbridge away today. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better Logitech products than the Squeezeboxes
vw195 wrote: The biggest factor for Squeezeboxen for me is that they are dedicated devices with good sound quality. For me its a bit of a pain to turn on bt, pair, switch to music app etc. Its much more simpler just to hit play on the device or unplug my radio and drag it all over the house. And I love my boom in the kitchen. I wont buy anymore without a sign that logitech is going to support the line though I agree. Whether a squeezebox or a BT speaker system appeals to you depends on what your PRIMARY music source is. If you are a high school or college kid, it's likely nowadays that your primary music source is some protable device like an iPod, andriod phone, tablet, etc. For those people, the BT speaker system would best suit their needs. For the rest of us, the squeezebox is the best fit. I've actually started using BT Audio (A2DP) in my car (2012 Volvo S60) with my Samsung Galaxy Player 4.2. I was VERY surprised by the audio quality. My ears can't tell the difference between this setup and my old 80 GB iPod hard wired into the iPod interface. Both devices have mp3 made with LAME at default settings (~190kbps I think?). So even though there is reencoding of a lossy source going on, it still sounds really good...in a car environment at least. Now when I had the trial Sirius/XM subscription, that was horrible!!! To my ears, it wasn't too much better than AM radio. So the audio system in the car can be revealing. It may be that I'm just lucky that the Samsung/Volvo combo results in a high bit rate transcode. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Better Logitech products than the Squeezeboxes
erland wrote: Have you tested or do you think you would be able to hear difference between a lossless file and a 190kbps MP3 in the car environment ? Just asking to get a feeling how good your car audio environment is, because if you can't hear difference between a lossless file and a 190kbps MP3 a bluetooth solution might be good enough because there might be other components limiting the system more than the bluetooth does. I'm personally fairly sure that both MP3 and bluetooth is good enough for a lot of people, the question is just if it's good enough in a listening room setup for people that really care about audio quality. For bluetooth to replace Squeezebox in my home from an audio quality perspective, its really important that it at least doesn't result in that my FLAC files sounds like MP3's or even worse. No, I've never done a listening test in my car to see if I can tell the difference between mp3 and lossless in my car. Honestly, even in my home listening environment, I have to listen very closely to notice any difference so I'm sure I wouldn't hear it in the car. In the car, it's more important to me that I have variety, not the absolute best quality. As long as I don't think wow, this sounds bad when I put the music on in the car, I'm happy. Sirius XM made me think that, so I never listened to it. What I was more concerned about in the car was the impact of compounded compressed encodings of the audio stream. In my car, I couldn't hear anything. I recall reading someplace that there is (or will be soon) a version of bluetooth that supports lossless encoding of the stream. In that case, it would be theoretically possible to be lossless from the source right to the DAC in the player. That would be cool to have in the car, but even in the home, I'd still perfer my squeezebox at this point. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95977 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
I dowloaded the update today and i got the fix for tapping the artist and getting the album list. Thanks for a prompt fix...great to see active support on this app!! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New kit next year?
aubuti wrote: I'm no expert on the industry, but my reading is that if Logitech has any new offerings in the music category it will be more devices like their AirPlay radio, and maybe their Bluetooth devices. I tend to agree, though Pippin's comment (assuming the hiring is specifically for squeezebox and not the audio division) provides a ray of hope. I would say that if this group of new offerings doesn't include new squeezebox hardware, we could safely assume we will never see new squeezebox hardware. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95893 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
db122 wrote: I totally understand why you don't upgrade and I'm not trying to encourage you to do it. I've made it a point to support versions back to at least 7.3, because I know people are running that with NAS devices that are hard/impossible to upgrade. I think I have a VM already with 7.5.5 loaded for testing; I will check it out within the next few weeks. OK, that's cool. I created a couple tickets on your website - one about this issue an another suggesting an enhancement to change the album sort order. Thanks! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
Glad to see some life with this app. I've been using it exclusively on my Samsung Galaxy 4.2 player (gingerbread based). I also use it from time to time on my WiFi Xoom. Compared to SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze has a more fresh look and feel to it. In using it, there are a couple of things that I think would make it better: - An option to list albums in date order rather than alphabetical. - In the now playing screen, the ability to tap on the artist name and be taken to a list of albums by that artist. This currently generates an error. Same goes for the album - tapping that should bring me to a list of tracks on the album - that generates an error too. The second issue really makes it cumbersome to navigate music. A lot of times, I'll be listening to an album and decide I want to listen to more from that artist. Rather than just tap on the artist name, I have to navigate from the top level through my music library. I'm curious to see what you come up with for enhancing the tablet interface. On the right side of the screen, there's a lot of screen real estate that could be put to good use. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
db122 wrote: This is dependent on server version. I believe it works for current server versions, but may fail on some older ones. There is some logic in place to maintain support for older servers, but the cutoff may not be exact or there may be more than two sets of behaviors necessary. Please file a bug with your specific version requests and I'll definitely try to get things working. I simply cannot test every possible version of the software, so if you're not running current then that's the price you pay :-) OK, that's good to know. I'm running 7.5.5, so I'm not running something that is anceint by any means. I rely on my squeezebox setup and I've learned to only upgrade to the newest version for compelling reasons. All too often there are issues. So there's a price for running what is current :-). If you could make it work with 7.5.5, that would be awesome. If not, then I'll wait until this feature not working bothers me enough to take a chance on the current version of squeezebox server. Thanks. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Jon Lord - RIP
On netflix I watched the video from Classic Albums about the making of Machine Head. In it, Jon talked about how me made that organ sound running it through amps and such. I never really appreciated his organ sound until watching that. As Alfista points out - it takes more than just a cursory listen to appreciate it. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95839 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [iPeng Announce] Easier to share, lower price (iPhone)
I am a iPeng user and there are a large number of Apple iPod products in our household. Since the iPod supported gapless playback of LAME mp3 files, I've been a strong supporter of iPods. I also own some Android devices... In response to Erland's post, I have to say that his requests would fit more in the Android world than iOS. There are 2 Andriod music player apps (PowerAmp and ProPlayer) that are under active development that support both mp3 and FLAC with gapless playback. In relation to the squeezebox ecosystem, squeezeplayer works quite well in combination with either squeeze commander or orange squeeze. iTunes never really bothered me. When you come from Sony's SonicStage, you have a pretty thick skin :-). When you move to an Android device, you break free of being tied to certain software. For syncing my android devices, I use Media Monkey - works great! For those that demand a choice of codecs with gapless playback on a platform more open than iOS, Android is an attractive choice at this point. This is especially true now that a number of non-phone Android devices are out there (Galaxy Player, Motorola Xoom, and all of the other tablets). I like both platforms and think both have good things to offer. Just some things to consider... maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95791 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [iPeng Announce] Easier to share, lower price (iPhone)
Anybody that complains that it is too much money is out of their mind. When my daugter got her ipod touch, i was all set to pay for the playback feature again. I didn't have too. Plus you get free upgrades for eternity. there's no pleasing some people! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95791 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Google Squeezebox: Nexus Q
erland wrote: As already mentioned, running SqueezePlayer on Nexus Q, could make it into a really cool Squeezebox, compatible to all our other Squeezeboxes and possible to remote control with all our normal Squeezebox remote controls, and making all streaming services we are used to available on Nexus Q. bluegaspode, thanks again for providing SqueezePlayer, its potential seems to increase more and more for every new Android device released. By the way, I still love the physical design of my old Squeezebox Classic with silver bottom, looks a lot better and less plastic compared to the newer Squeezebox Touch. A really cool and *expensive* squeezebox! I like that they went with a matte black finish so it doesn't function as a finger print magnet like so many other glossy black devices. Look at what happened with Google TV (which hits home here) - overpriced device which nobody really understood what problem it was solving. I have a feeling something similar will happen here with the Nexus Q. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95629 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
TheLastMan wrote: ...she looked at me as if I had just suggested she should ditch Harvey Nichols and start buying her clothes at Primark!! (you have to be English to understand the implications of that...) That's funny! I'll attempt a translation: ...ditch Talbots and start buying her clothes at WalMart. Too extreme? :-). On a serious note, I tend toward blind optimism and I hate being negative. However, with the way things have been with Squeezebox, even my blind optimism is wearing thin. I still hold onto the fact that I may find myself pleasantly surprised in the near future :-). maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
I read 3 and thought uh, that's the Boom, but then I realized you meant something you can connect your own speakers too. In the world of powered speakers, would that really be necessary. Somebody that is inclined to buy their own passive speakers would also be inclined to buy their own amplification. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm amazed that Sonos has jumped ahead of Logitech with this. Logitech had a huge head start and certainly the brand power to see it through. It upsets me when I go to my local department store (Target) and see a large prominent Sonos display. Sonos is also so expensive!! I miss the active development of the software. I also think it's time for Boom II. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
erland wrote: So, what's missing, what features do you think would make everyone purchase a Squeezebox instead of Sonos ? Is it just the lack of hardware with Logitech logo on the front as TheLastMan suggested or is there something we could do in software that would make everyone select a Squeezebox instead of Sonos ? Also, assuming we prefer the open Squeezebox products in front of the closed Sonos products, is there something we as a community could do to improve the situation ? All the premature predictions of Squeezebox end of life mentioned in a lot of threads in the forum is definitely a step in the wrong direction, but maybe there is something else we can do ? A big part of it is the lack or hardware. You have the radio and the touch - that's it!! And stores like Target aren't shoving them in peoples faces next to the Bose products. Crutchfield doesn't even feature the squeezebox in their catalog anymore - just Sonos. The best, most robust, easiest to use software isn't going to fix these issues. I'm a hardcore user and an avid music enthusiest. What matters to me isn't going to matter to 90% of the users, so satisfying my needs isn't going to bring droves of new squeezebox users into the fold. Feature-wise, I'm happy with what we have today. I love that I can easily turn my iOS and Andriod devices into portable squeezeboxes. Software stability is another story. My server stops for no apparent reason. If it doesn't stop by itself, I have to restart it periodically because of a memory leak. The only reason I'm on this version of software is Rhapsody support. The last version of 7.3 was solid as a rock, but doesn't support changes Rhapsody made in their protocol. The LMS versions scare me with all of the problems people reported along the way. Problems were always fixed super fast...not so any more. Sorry to sound like a sourpus and a negative-nancy, but I think the issues surrounding the squeezebox are beyond help from the community. Logitech needs to relaunch the Squeezebox line with some new exciting hardware and marketing support. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheapest option for hardware to run iPeng?
We just got my daughter a current generation 8GB iPod Touch (4th gen I believe) for $170 from Amazon. I'm shocked at how the price has come down. This was even less expensive than a refurb of the same model from Apple. Local stores in our area have had them price similarly. Look out for deals. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
I use SqueezeCommander and I like it. I also use iPeng, so SqueezeCommander seemed very familiar to me when I started using it - they both share similar UI elements. Now that iPeng's playback supports gapless playback, I can appreciate the inegration of the player and controller app. I may check out OrangeSqueeze just for that :-). The only downside I see to SqueezeCommander (aside from playback integration) is that it doesn't appear to be actively developed at this point. It's not really an issue as it's stable, but if Logitech changes something that breaks compatability, we'll be left in the lurch. And since this is the SqueezePlayer thread, let me just throw in there that this app is awesome - it has never failed to work for me with both mp3 and FLAC. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Orange Squeeze 1.0 for Android Released
I just downloaded this app. It works great - found my servers quickly. I like the native feel to android. I could do most things I normally do with a few exceptions: - cannot set the sleep timer on a player. - cannot change the sort order for albums by year. - when I start playing an album with a particular song, only that song plays. With the squeezebox itself or any other controlling mechanism (app, web page, controller, PC app) the entire album becomes the now playing playlist and playback starts from the selected song. - on my Xoom, it seems like the space on the left could be used to display more info - it's very empty. - main playback screen does not show where it is in the playlist, such as (4 of 12). Keep up the good work maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
Squeezemenicely wrote: I definitely listen to more music than before - and my CD player is getting jealous, since the SBs are getting so much more attention. My CD players are suffering from complete neglect. They could get up and walk out and I wouldn't even notice. Don't think they'd be too happy about that :-). Seriously, I haven't listened to a CD since I have my squeezeboxes. My CD players are still in my systems only because it would be extra work to disconnect them and take them out. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why not in a car?
jfalk;694946 Wrote: Of course, I'd have to reach into the glovebox to turn it on and I'd have to remember to turn it off,right? No, you don't. The iPod will stop playing on its own and will turn itself off in time. It quickly will go into sleep mode. The connection in my car is in the storage compartment in the center console. I drop it in there and forget about it until I have to pull it out to update the music on it. The idea of installing a PC in the car with the associated wiring is an interesting geek endeavor and would certainly work. However, the iPod solution would give you equally good fidelity with a much simpler solution. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why not in a car?
Does the car have iPod integration? Our cars (2010 Volvo XC 70 and 2012 Volvo S60) have a usb port which can accept an iPod or a usb storage device (thumb drive, etc). The usb storage capability is much like what you've said you have in your car. The iPod integration though uses the tags and has the advantage of providing gapless playback since the iPod provides that. I had an 80 GB iPod I didn't really use any more, so I've dedicated it to my car. For my wife's car, I bought a used one on the Amazon marketplace for a little over $100. I only need to remove them to add music occasionally. It's worked out great! Getting a squeezebox to work in a car is an interesting technical challenge, but I think it's a bit of overkill. FLAC would be nice in the car, but honestly, high quality LAME mp3 files are more than sufficient. If your car supports iPod integration and you aren't fiercely anti-Apple, that would be my suggestion. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why not in a car?
Recoveryone;694879 Wrote: Most aftermarket HU have the ability to playback high level ACC and Mp3's along with being able to stream Bluetooth which allows you to listen to LastFm, Pandora and the music files on your phone. I justed ordered the Pioneer DEH P9400BH for my car. Along with HD radio. If only my cars would allow for an aftermarket stereo. They are OK - I could certainly do worse...I just don't like having no choice. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5 and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Blog post on the Squeezebox
virgiliomi;694111 Wrote: Added my comments to it... awaiting moderation. ditto. To the OP - thanks for the heads-up on this blog post. Hopefully we can overwhelm the blog with our posts showing that the SB community is alive and well! -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.5, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 37,509 songs, 2,934 albums, 515 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
