snarlydwarf wrote:
JSonnabend;169600 Wrote:
MP3 is actually not open in the sense of free. The MP3 format is
patented and subject to license restrictions.
This is true, but the advantage of mp3 over other lossy formats is that
it was so well-entrenched that every hardware and
JSonnabend wrote:
Peter;169197 Wrote:
slimditty wrote:Anybody with any sense should choose open protocols.
Luckily, any
lossless protocol can be converted losslesly to any other, so as long
as
you can find the proper tools (I'm sure Microsoft won't have provided
you with any) you can
Peter;169570 Wrote:
Cool, do they run on Linux or OS/X as well?
Regards,
Peter
Are you being facetious?
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JSonnabend wrote:
Peter;169570 Wrote:
Cool, do they run on Linux or OS/X as well?
Regards,
Peter
Are you being facetious?
You had me running for the dictionary there.
Yes, of course I was joking.
This kind of thing shows the importance of open standards. IIRC the free
lossless
Josh Coalson;143065 Wrote:
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Josh Coalson;143003 Wrote:
you know, once you went with WMAL you pretty much tethered
yourself
to microsoft. all microsoft has to say is 'no' to slimdevices or
MP3 is actually not open in the sense of free. The MP3 format is
patented and subject to license restrictions.
When I decided to rip my collection, I debated between FLAC and WMAL.
I settled on the latter because I was using Sonic Foundry Vegas to make
mixes at the time, and it read WMAL files
JSonnabend;169600 Wrote:
MP3 is actually not open in the sense of free. The MP3 format is
patented and subject to license restrictions.
This is true, but the advantage of mp3 over other lossy formats is that
it was so well-entrenched that every hardware and software maker is
compelled to
slimditty wrote:
I was about to buy a Transporter, too, until I saw that it didn't
natively support wma lossless (in the forum). I think that the
SlimDevices help files are very unclear on this issue. Not all
slimserver builds can transcode wma lossless (I am thinking of the
Infrant NAS running
Peter;169197 Wrote:
slimditty wrote:Anybody with any sense should choose open protocols.
Luckily, any
lossless protocol can be converted losslesly to any other, so as long
as
you can find the proper tools (I'm sure Microsoft won't have provided
you with any) you can convert to FLAC.
I was about to buy a Transporter, too, until I saw that it didn't
natively support wma lossless (in the forum). I think that the
SlimDevices help files are very unclear on this issue. Not all
slimserver builds can transcode wma lossless (I am thinking of the
Infrant NAS running Linux). When I
On 10/6/06, Terje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe SlimDevices should comment one some of the bigger issues.Like support for DRM'ed content, WMAL and the like. Maybe there is a
official roadmap somewhere I don't know about yet?Commenting publicly on issues like this would open the door to
On 10/5/06, Vriff Polo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's a lot of FUD regarding WMAL licensing, but it seems prettystraight forward; one time $5k for decoder source, and $.1 per unit.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/licensing/interim.aspx
WMA lossless is not currently supported natively. You can choose to
transcode to flac or wav. I don't think there are any plans for native
decompression as there are MS licensing issues.
r
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What difference would it make to sound quality? I presume none -
lossless is lossless after all.
I have all my stuff in WMA (for historical reasons - let's not get into
that argument) and can't be bothered converting to FLAC.
I'm assuming the only downside is that my PC has to do a bit more
Flamingo;142766 Wrote:
What difference would it make to sound quality? I presume none -
lossless is lossless after all.
I have all my stuff in WMA (for historical reasons - let's not get into
that argument) and can't be bothered converting to FLAC.
I'm assuming the only downside is that
It should have no effect on sound quality whatsoever. I am more
concerned about how I work with the files if I go the FLAC route. I
assume that it is pretty straight-forward to automatically maintain a
separate copy of all my music at say [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be able to sync to
my portable
ceejay,
Yes I've now realised that about the FF/RWD. I had that feature on my
old CD player - never used it once it 18 years!
Anyway, another question. Does WMA lossless get transcoded to FLAC to
stream to the Squeezebox by default? If it was WAV it would obviously
take up a lot more wirelss
Windows Media Player does support FLAC through DirectShow filters.
Do a search on Google.
r
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In Server Settings / Filetypes you can control what conversions take
place. The default, I think, is to FLAC, but you can choose to force it
to use WAV or even MP3.
If you haven't already, do download the software and have a play, using
Softsqueeze as the player. 6.5.1 nightly is recommended.
luga00;142785 Wrote:
Windows Media Player does support FLAC through DirectShow filters.
Do a search on Google.
r
That is alright but it doesn't fully solve my issue. I assume I will
still not be able to set ratings on songs on my portable player (wma
files transcoded by Windows Media
1) Does the Transporter support
No
(or will it support in a future firmware update) WMA Lossless natively
Maybe.
2) Can WMA Lossless to FLAC/WAV transcoding only be done when the
Slimserver is running on a Windows computer or not?
As far as I'm aware, WMA lossless transcoding is
It's good to see that I'm no longer the only one wanting native WMAL
support. I don't have a Transporter or any plans of getting one, but I
already bought 3 SB3's and have my WMAL library is growing bigger every
day. And, even if WMAL is a closed and licensed format it makes my day
easier when
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Windows Media Player does support FLAC through DirectShow filters.
Do a search on Google.
here's how:
http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/?p=40
BTW Martin if you're really hooked on WMP because of the ratings, ask
microsoft to support them for FLAC. I don't
Terje;142952 Wrote:
It's good to see that I'm no longer the only one wanting native WMAL
support. I don't have a Transporter or any plans of getting one, but I
already bought 3 SB3's and have my WMAL library is growing bigger every
day. And, even if WMAL is a closed and licensed format it
Flamingo;142783 Wrote:
ceejay,
Yes I've now realised that about the FF/RWD. I had that feature on my
old CD player - never used it once it 18 years!
Anyway, another question. Does WMA lossless get transcoded to FLAC to
stream to the Squeezebox by default? If it was WAV it would
bergek;142757 Wrote:
2) Can WMA Lossless to FLAC/WAV transcoding only be done when the
Slimserver is running on a Windows computer or not?
I don't think I've seen the answer to this question in the thread. Can
WMA lossless be transcoded by the server when SlimServer is run on a
non-Windows
JJZolx;142966 Wrote:
I don't think I've seen the answer to this question in the thread. Can
WMA lossless be transcoded by the server when SlimServer is run on a
non-Windows computer?
This is true, there is no open source WMA Lossless decoder. I do
believe Real plans to release a new open
radish;142955 Wrote:
Can you explain what it is that makes the current transcoding solution a
problem? I used transcoding for a long time without any problems until
my particular format of choice was supported in firmware. I don't
recall any great hardships.
I don't say it's a big problem,
andyg;142972 Wrote:
This is true, there is no open source WMA Lossless decoder. I do
believe Real plans to release a new open source WMA decoder sometime
soon, but I have no idea if it will decode lossless. Just another
reason to use FLAC. ;)
I recently converted my 250GB of WMAL into FLAC. I also run MCE, but
have decided to stick to FLAC from now on. There were a few WMAL bugs
but they have been fixed and are available as hotfixes (not yet in the
6.5 release)
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Terje;142976 Wrote:
I don't say it's a big problem, but the lack for FF/RWD, the transcoding
is a more complicated process and therefore more likely to fail/have
bugs. It also uses resources on the SS machine which is really not
needed. Many people would probably like to use a very low spec
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andyg;142972 Wrote:
This is true, there is no open source WMA Lossless decoder. I do
believe Real plans to release a new open source WMA decoder
sometime
soon, but I have no idea if it will decode lossless. Just another
reason to use FLAC. ;)
Josh Coalson;142954 Wrote:
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Windows Media Player does support FLAC through DirectShow filters.
Do a search on Google.
here's how:
http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/?p=40
It doesn't work very well,
Josh Coalson;143003 Wrote:
you know, once you went with WMAL you pretty much tethered yourself
to microsoft. all microsoft has to say is 'no' to slimdevices or
price the license too high, or ... and that's it.
For very light values of tether, considering that it's a lossless
format and
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Josh Coalson;143003 Wrote:
you know, once you went with WMAL you pretty much tethered yourself
to microsoft. all microsoft has to say is 'no' to slimdevices or
price the license too high, or ... and that's it.
For very light values of
mkozlows;143057 Wrote:
the best software (Windows Media Player 11)
I think you mis-spelt Foobar 2000 :)
But more seriously, yes it sucks. But this is how it is when you have
two giant elephants (MS Apple) going head to head over your music.
Neither will ever support the other. Your only
Josh Coalson;143065 Wrote:
yeah, I see what you're saying, but as far as I know the libraries are
binary-only and only work on windows, they're not going to help anyone
except those already tethered to microsoft. maybe you mean it at least
allows you to transcode on a windows machine?
It
There's a lot of FUD regarding WMAL licensing, but it seems pretty
straight forward; one time $5k for decoder source, and $.1 per unit.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/licensing/interim.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/licensing/final.aspx
Of course the cost for
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