Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > There are a couple kinds of specialty hardware: > > 1) Antiquated stuff > > 2) Newish stuff that just might make it Granted, and a fair point. So, I'll clarify that for my own present discussion, I've been talking entirely, exclusively about

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:37:56 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Luciano Mannucci (luci...@vespaperitivo.it): > > > Hmm, I guess that a couple of virtual machines under KVM/Qemu on an > > IBM S802L Power8 are'nt enough... (I could provide them :) > > I have an old G4 MacBook

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:16:40 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:32:01PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > Great. Let's do it then. It's a tiny change that costs nothing and > > > makes life a lot easier for many users. We could just package it > >

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

Correcting: > I have an antique G3 Macbook, so I'm one up on you, there. ;-> It > still functions, for long-ago values of 'function'. Technically, it's a G3 _iBook_. I'm unclear off the top of my head, especially after so many years, whether any machine was called 'Macbook' back in the

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

Quoting Luciano Mannucci (luci...@vespaperitivo.it): > Hmm, I guess that a couple of virtual machines under KVM/Qemu on an > IBM S802L Power8 are'nt enough... (I could provide them :) > I have an old G4 MacBook that I should check to see if it is still > working... I have an antique G3 Macbook,

[DNG] apt-mirror config for a local Devuan repo

Dear D1rs, since we are talking of creating a local or LAN Devuan mirror, I thought that posting a working configuration for apt-mirror could be found useful. Please find at the bottom an example of what you should have in your /etc/apt/mirrors.list in order to get a full local Devuan repo for

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 05:44:07PM -0400, fsmithred wrote: [cut] > > Adding it as a dep is a good idea. Once it's installed, it can be found in > the menu under "Other" in xfce. I'm not sure where it shows up in other > menus. The user can dig through the menu and find it once, then copy the >

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:22:32PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > > > Please notice that the original walkthrough document is always at: > > > > https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt > > > > In theory, package mirrors (like ftp.fau.de, the one that you mention) >

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On 03/12/2018 03:16 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:32:01PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > >>> Great. Let's do it then. It's a tiny change that costs nothing and >>> makes life a lot easier for many users. We could just package it and >>> include it among the deps of XFCE.

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:10:30 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20180312191030.ga16...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:43:25PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > merged# This is new devuan.org code, > > > > ..this is "Debian's mirror MINUS systemd

Re: [DNG] Beaglebone black

KatolaZ > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 02:36:06PM -0400, Chillfan wrote: > > I think the best way would be to see: https://git.devuan.org/sdk/arm-sdk/ > > and open an issue about it there. > > > > I'm also opening a couple of issues about the beaglebone black there having > > noticed some problems.

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:32:01PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Great. Let's do it then. It's a tiny change that costs nothing and > > makes life a lot easier for many users. We could just package it and > > include it among the deps of XFCE. > > If it's not installed by default, you

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:43:25PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [cut] > > > merged# This is new devuan.org code, > > ..this is "Debian's mirror MINUS systemd PLUS Devuan's code mirror", > merger job is done with amprolla's you-don't-wanna-know server side > magic. > > > size? > >

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:30:48 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 06:23:25AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > We already have two buttons on the desktop for enlarging and > > reducing the font and icons, thanks to Joerg Reisenweber, but it's > > only

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware

One thing about using used [,old] and free hardware is that it has power efficiency problems. Newer hardware tends to be more power efficient (if you choose wisely). This means that newer hardware can "pay" for itself via energy savings alone. Less power consumed, less heat. If you have an

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 09:38:01PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > $ apt-cache show xfce4-datetime-plugin orage | grep ^Installed > Installed-Size: 261 > Installed-Size: 5573 Anybody know what the units are? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:32:15 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <37e1737b6270d5f488c88d006f55a...@dyne.org>: > On 2018-03-12 09:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:56:13 +0100, Arnt wrote in message > > <20151217025613.4656e...@nb6.lan>: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> ..I got no

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

On 2018-03-12 07:38, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: I never realized that Orage is a "full-blown" calendar app because I have no need for one. I can live with a bit of useless bloat to solve a $ apt-cache show xfce4-datetime-plugin orage | grep ^Installed

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On 2018-03-12 03:29, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:59:34PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] Steve, I appreciate your comments but you are really late to this party. The ASCII slim theme was finished in December and the layout and font sizing are identical to the one in Jessie

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On 2018-03-12 03:13, Edward Bartolo wrote: On 12/03/2018, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2018-03-11 14:08, Edward Bartolo wrote: [snip] Edward, I'm happy to hear that you've found something that suits you. But now I'm wondering what you were previously seeing. This is the

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On 2018-03-12 09:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:56:13 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20151217025613.4656e...@nb6.lan>: Hi, ..I got no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here: do you guys have " du -sch "-style numbers for alpha-iso-cd # 28MB

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:56:13 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20151217025613.4656e...@nb6.lan>: > Hi, > > ..I got no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 > so I try here: do you guys have " du -sch "-style numbers for > alpha-iso-cd # 28MB ..today: 39.58GB, according to:

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 11:46:13 + KatolaZ wrote: > the main issue is that we basically have no PPC build hosts > available. If we had (and if there is a bunch of users interested in > testing that stuff out), we could definitely provide PPC support. Hmm, I guess that a

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2018-03-11 07:43, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@dyne.org writes: >> >>> On 2018-03-11 00:29, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi again, [...] Apart from getting the clock in the Xfce systemtray to display in a colour that contrasts with

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:03:50 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:17:05 +, Rowland wrote in message > <20180312101705.7dca7...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > > > Hi Didier, all of what you say is true, but if there is a wicd > > package, then it needs to

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

Hi, KatolaZ writes: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 09:43:40PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> I do my agenda and task scheduling with Org-mode so have no real need >> for Orage. The only reason I still have it installed is because I've >> been too lazy to get serious about

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 01:03:50PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:17:05 +, Rowland wrote in message > <20180312101705.7dca7...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > > > Hi Didier, all of what you say is true, but if there is a wicd > > package, then it needs to work as

Re: [DNG] Xfce clock visibility with darkpurpy (was Re: Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.)

Hi, goli...@dyne.org writes: > On 2018-03-11 07:43, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@dyne.org writes: >> >>> On 2018-03-11 00:29, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi again, [...] Apart from getting the clock in the Xfce systemtray to display in a colour that contrasts with

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:17:05 +, Rowland wrote in message <20180312101705.7dca7...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > Hi Didier, all of what you say is true, but if there is a wicd > package, then it needs to work as expected. ...and if it doesn't, a nice big warning should wake up the user

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware

Le 12/03/2018 à 12:34, Luciano Mannucci a écrit : On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:07:57 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: I do follow the Linux PPC laptop project¹, and it would probably be wise to give some money to them. But they also currently use a closed hardware design. [1]

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:34:19PM +0100, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:07:57 +0100 > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > I do follow the Linux PPC laptop project¹, and it would probably be wise to > > give some money to them. But they also currently use a

Re: [DNG] Used *and* free hardware (was: Re: The FSF seems to have finally sold out)

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:07:57 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I do follow the Linux PPC laptop project¹, and it would probably be wise to > give some money to them. But they also currently use a closed hardware design. > > [1] https://www.powerpc-notebook.org/ Are there

Re: [DNG] rq: show me your power

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:02:38AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 00:59:21 +0100, Adam wrote in message > <20180311235921.aq6uclmmsx2ip...@angband.pl>: > > > Hi! > > If you have a machine with a non-boring power connection (USB, etc) > > or an UPS that's recognized by the

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 06:23:25AM -0400, fsmithred wrote: [cut] > > We already have two buttons on the desktop for enlarging and reducing the > font and icons, thanks to Joerg Reisenweber, but it's only in the > desktop-live, and it's only for xfce. I haven't looked at it in a long > time, but

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:17:05AM +, Rowland Penny wrote: [cut] > > Hi Didier, all of what you say is true, but if there is a wicd package, > then it needs to work as expected. > > As for anybody using wicd on Devuan and having slight problems, just > feel glad you are not using Ubintu

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On 03/12/2018 04:29 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:59:34PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > [cut] > >> Steve, I appreciate your comments but you are really late to this party. >> The ASCII slim theme was finished in December and the layout and font sizing >> are identical to

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:41:09 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     This is just to remind everyone that wicd isn't necessary - at > least if it doesn't provide anything more than wifi config. > >     I've been living without it - and without network-manager - for > many years. All I

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

    This is just to remind everyone that wicd isn't necessary - at least if it doesn't provide anything more than wifi config.     I've been living without it - and without network-manager - for many years. All I need is wpa_spplicant and wpa_gui.     Put the following line in

Re: [DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 10:59:34PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: [cut] > Steve, I appreciate your comments but you are really late to this party. > The ASCII slim theme was finished in December and the layout and font sizing > are identical to the one in Jessie which is about a year ago. The

[DNG] Please, provide a means to remove the default wallpapers.

On 12/03/2018, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-03-11 14:08, Edward Bartolo wrote: > [snip] > > Edward, I'm happy to hear that you've found something that suits you. > But now I'm wondering what you were previously seeing. > > This is the Jessie (purpy) default login screen: >