[Elecraft] USB to Serial Adapters

2019-12-06 Thread Steve & Anne Ray
While I have not had any problems with the USB to Serial Adapter with my K2, I did have problems with the USB ports on another computer, not my ham station computer. I had a printer, mouse, scanner and keyboard on USB from the computer, this computer did not have a USB to Serial Adapter. Everythi

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
OK thanks.   Didn't know that.   I do find that it works extremely well with any Windows based system I've use since XP 73 Bob, K4TAX On 5/17/2019 3:35 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: An RT Systems cable did not work with my Mac. It only works with their software. I returned it and

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Walter Underwood
An RT Systems cable did not work with my Mac. It only works with their software. I returned it and got a different FTDI cable. RT Systems seem to provide Mac drivers now, but I’d still stay away. RT Systems has programmed their FTDI chip to give a different ID, so other drivers won’t work with

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
The cables from R T Systems are certainly reliable and affordable as well.  Plus if you have a question, you can call them and they will talk you through the issue. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 5/17/2019 2:07 PM, Tox wrote: This. I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Michael Blake via Elecraft
All of the Elecraft USB/serial adapters I have are also FTDI and work flawlessly on my MacBook Pro. Michael Blake K9JRI > On May 17, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Tox wrote: > > This. > > I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have > fake chips that it is far cheaper to

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Tox
This. I have spent enough time fightingg "prolific" cables that proved to have fake chips that it is far cheaper to just buy the keyspan unit, install the ftdi driver, and have it Just Work (modulo variability in Port naming). Chuck the prolifics, get a genuine ftdi (the keyspan unit is a great c

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread AL7CR
I have been down this route on numerous Macs under many versions of OS X. The absolute "gold standard" is the Tripp-Lite Keyspan USA-19HS. They are expensive but they just work on OS X. I keep them in stock for projects. Available on Amazon. AL7CR On Fri, May 17, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Doug Pe

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread wa2...@gmail.com
Doug,I don't have a Mac but I have had problems with Prolific adapters on PCs.  I switched to FTDI and never have a problem.  Ken WA2LBI LG G6 -- Original message--From: Doug PersonDate: Fri, May 17, 2019 13:28To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net;Cc: Subject:[Elecraft] USB to Serial on M

[Elecraft] USB to Serial on MacOS

2019-05-17 Thread Doug Person
I know there are a lot of guys that are very good at macs here. I'm stuck. I'm trying to get a USB to SERIAL adapter to work on a mac. I've tried 4. None work. I look at System Information but I honestly can't tell if there's a serial port adapter there or not or if it even works. I did install

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 I am adding a KIO2 to my Elecraft K2 and will of course build the required interface cable per the Elecraft instructions.  But my computer will require adapting the serial connection to a USB.  I have heard that some adapters work well and others do not.  I

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
functions. From: Fred Jensen To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2 OK Harry, as you wish, but just DO NOT plug a USB-Serial adapter cable into the DE-9 connector on the back of the K2 ... unless you striv

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Fred Jensen
my use it fits my needs better as I do not plan to use Elecrafts Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely. So it becomes a simpler solution. From: Don Wilhelm To: Harry Yingst ; Elecraft Email List Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial a

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Jim Allen
Get the Elecraft KUSB, and don't worry about it. I bought one last year. When I got around to trying it, it was apparently dead. An e-mail to Elecraft had a new one en route that day. You might save a few bucks fiddling around with other brands, but why? 73 Jim Allen W6OGC Sent from my iPad

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
The DB9-USB-D5-F cost about $15, so for about the price of a USB to RS-232 Cable you can put the USB interface right n the K2. If you decide in the future you want to go a different route you simply remove it and get the KIO2 from Elecraft.

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
For my use it fits my needs better as I do not plan to use Elecrafts Transverters nor their 100 watt amp remotely. So it becomes a simpler solution. From: Don Wilhelm To: Harry Yingst ; Elecraft Email List Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Harry, OK in broad concept - EXCEPT, things get bogged down in the details: You will have some problems to solve if using that device. First of all, the K2 MCU RX and TX signals need to be TTL (0 to 5V) instead of RS-232 and the polarity must be inverted - so you will need some more logic circ

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Instead of a KIO2 I am installing a DB9-USB-D5-F USB straight to the K2 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Fred Jensen
Paul: There seem to be two distinct USB-serial chipsets, FTDI and Prolific. Others [like Keyspan] appear to use the Prolific [most of the time]. Three older Prolific models are not supported in Windows 10 and will give "Error 10" when plugged in. Prolific has also had problems with counterf

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul, The FTDI adapters seem to work well. You can get one from Elecraft. Be certain that you do use the K2 to PC cable. If you get a USB to serial adapter that has a long tail, you may want to shorten the K2 to PC cable, but it must be present to avoid damaging the K2 or the serial port. D

[Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter for KIO2

2017-03-30 Thread Paul Huff
I am adding a KIO2 to my Elecraft K2 and will of course build the required interface cable per the Elecraft instructions. But my computer will require adapting the serial connection to a USB. I have heard that some adapters work well and others do not. I would be interested in hearing specifi

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable - Follow-up

2014-11-20 Thread Rich
One more item that may be of interest to the masses. For years I used my K3 and a Vista laptop with West Mountain USB converters. This setup worked perfectly. A laptop failure required me to upgrade. Due to the purchase of the new Win 8 laptop I needed to replace my USB RS232 adapters. I bo

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable - Follow-up

2014-11-20 Thread Bob N3MNT
Not sure it is the search itself, but the differences in the security levels for drivers and other things being installed on the machine. Win 8 seems to want to only accept signed drivers and win 7 doesn't seem to care. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/US

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable - Follow-up

2014-11-20 Thread Jim - KE8G
Hi All, First off, thanks to all that replied! As I said in the first reply, I guess I was having one of the old timers memory problems and forgot about looking on the Elecraft web site for the needed information! BUT, something very curious while connecting the cables. The first cable I conn

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Jim - KE8G
Original message From: Jim - KE8G Date:11/18/2014 7:50 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable Hi All, I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck getting them to work. I go into the device manager and it says a driver

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Download the FTDI drivers fromhttp://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm and install them. Yes, it surprises me that Windows 8 does not find and load them automatically, but then there have been some recent changes on the FTDI drivers from what I have read. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/18/2014 7:50 PM, J

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread hsherriff
Jim You should be able to get the drivers from the download section of the Elecraft site Harlan  NC3C Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Jim - KE8G Date:11/18/2014 7:50 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
I would recommend downloading the driver from Elecraft. Then update the driver by choosing "Browse my computer for driver software". Then, in the next step select the directory where the driver has been downloaded and unpacked. That should do - although sometimes Windows can be annoying about

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Walter Underwood
driver that comes > with the converter. Don't expect windows to know about your driver. > 73 > Fred, AE6QL > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim - > KE8G > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:51 PM >

Re: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Fred Townsend
ember 18, 2014 4:51 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable Hi All, I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck getting them to work. I go into the device manager and it says a driver has not been installed. I tell it to update the driver, it goe

[Elecraft] USB-to-Serial cable

2014-11-18 Thread Jim - KE8G
Hi All, I received a couple of cable from Elecraft today, and I am not having any luck getting them to work. I go into the device manager and it says a driver has not been installed. I tell it to update the driver, it goes out to the Internet, but returns nothing. Any ideas? Right now, I am

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Kenneth A Christiansen
Hi Don and the group Thank you Don for the information on the PowerWerx cable. I did not know it existed and am sure a year ago when I bought a new USB cable form my Wouxun that they did not have it. The new USB cable did not work just as the original did not work. Thanks again for the updated

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Kevin Stover
Nope, that's the point. Until you try to install in Win7 or higher you won't know. The drivers from Prolific and FTDI won't work with a counterfeit chip. On 3/28/2014 2:54 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote: Do you have a sure fire way to detect the counterfeit ships before buying, including buying brand n

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/28/2014 12:54 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrote: > Do you have a sure fire way to detect the counterfeit ships before > buying, including buying brand name at additional cost. What brand > or supplier is safe? I can't speak for others, but the IoGear GUC232 (dongle), Edgeport-8 (stand-alone), and Quate

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread WILLIS COOKE
__ From: Doug Person To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test I did the exact same thing for Baofeng radios.  I just converted the programming cable to a serial cable.  The counterfeit chips are a /se

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
I just received the WXUSB cable from PowerWerx. I confirmed that there is some electronics between pins 2 and 3 of the RS-232 connector and the plugs. The easy answer is to just order the serial cable and use whatever USB to Serial adapter you may have that works. Thanks Eric for tolerating t

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Doug Person
The Baofeng, Wouxun and Kenwood radios use the same pin-outs. There are two plugs on the programming cable: a 2.5mm 3 conductor and a 3.5 3 conductor. The "shield" or inward-most contact on the 3.5mm plug is "rx" data and the "ring" on the 2.5mm is the "tx" data. Ground is the "shield" or inwa

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Doug Person
I did the exact same thing for Baofeng radios. I just converted the programming cable to a serial cable. The counterfeit chips are a /serious/ problem. You will be hard-pressed to find a new computer with "real" serial ports in them. So, Serial to USB conversion is an ongoing necessity. D

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken, I believe the radio will not take direct RS-232 input, but it needs TTL levels derived from the RS-232 signals. I ordered a serial port programming cable from Powerwerks and when it arrives, I can tell you the relationship. In the meantime, I cut the USB end off the existing cable and

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-28 Thread Kenneth A Christiansen
Hi Don and the group Could you give us the information on which wires of the Wouxun cable go to which pins on the DB9 connector so I can use the USB adaptor for my K3 to program my hand held. I have only 3 computers all using Windows 8.1 and so far a work around but haven't used it for a month

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
That "explanation" dances all around the real world situation. The Chinese have been making cheap counterfeit Prolific and FTDI chips. Both Prolific and FTDI have produced drivers which detect those counterfeit chips to protect their intellectual property. While the counterfeit chips may work f

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-27 Thread WA7SPY
Here is a very good explanation about USB to serial port converters. ( see below) You pay a higher price but the recommended one works with my Windows 7 PC. I have had no problems connecting older RS232 equipment to my Windows 7 PC. It works like a champ. I have no interest in the US Converters

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Hi all, I have had an experience with the Chinese "fake" Prolific USB to serial chips. A Wouxun VHF/UHF handeld would not work with my Win7 computer because the Prolific drivers identified the chip as a fake Chinese knockoff. I tried the solutions in the web as well as the older Prolific dr

[Elecraft] USB to Serial Ports adapter: a product test

2014-03-27 Thread Doug Person
Personally, I have had some aggravation with USB to serial port converters so I thought I would pass along my experience with a good product. I always need more than even a couple of serial ports so I don't have to go through routines of unplugging and plugging cables. So I picked up a GearM

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter ~ question for Don

2013-11-06 Thread Eddy
That's what I surmised Don, as always many thanks!! 73 ed On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 5:46 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Eddy, The answer is an emphatic YES.  That cable is NOT suggested, it is mandatory to keep from damaging your K2. The K2 uses only 3 of the RS-232 level signals, TXD, RXD

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter ~ question for Don

2013-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Eddy, The answer is an emphatic YES. That cable is NOT suggested, it is mandatory to keep from damaging your K2. The K2 uses only 3 of the RS-232 level signals, TXD, RXD and Signal Ground, and those conform to the normal RS-232 pins for those signals. The other pins in the K2 AUX IO connector

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter ~ question for Don

2013-11-06 Thread Dennis Moore
I'm not Don, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night... Yes, you still need a custom cable whether you're using a regular serial port on the PC or using a USB to serial adapter. 73, Dennis NJ6G On 11/6/2013 4:27 PM, Eddy wrote: Don, regarding your answer to Tom's question about a

[Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter ~ question for Don

2013-11-06 Thread Eddy
Don, regarding your answer to Tom's question about a USB to Serial adapter, you suggested the Keypan unit which I found on Amazon for $15..my question about serial and the K2, do I still need to make a custom serial cable for my K2 as suggested in the K2 manual? thanks again, 73 ed __

[Elecraft] USB to serial adapter.

2013-10-15 Thread GMuller885
To all: Thanks for the help. I now have a solution. Gerald Muller KF5EYC gmuller...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecra

Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial adapter k3 problem

2013-02-16 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED
Hello Barry, Very strange problem I am having between the K3 and the computer for rig control using a usb to serial adapter (prolific chip set). Sometime it works just fine and other times it goes funky, looses rig control or cw keying or keying the tx with no power output. When I reboot it som

Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial adapter k3 problem

2013-02-16 Thread Richard Fjeld
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:09 AM Subject: [Elecraft] usb to serial adapter k3 problem Very strange problem I am having between the K3 and the computer for rig control using a usb to serial adapter (prolific chip set). Sometime it works just fine and other times it goes funky

[Elecraft] usb to serial adapter k3 problem

2013-02-16 Thread K6ST Barry Bettman
Very strange problem I am having between the K3 and the computer for rig control using a usb to serial adapter (prolific chip set). Sometime it works just fine and other times it goes funky, looses rig control or cw keying or keying the tx with no power output. When I reboot it sometime works fine

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-07-08 Thread NZ0T
I've been using the Dynex DX-UBD9 for a long time now. Works fine with my K3 and W2. I have used them with my Dell Inspiron 6000 laptop and Acer netbook with no problems. I use 2 of them - first one I bought new at Best Buy for about $35 and the 2nd was refurbished for $9 on EBay. 73 Bill nz0t

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-23 Thread Ross Primrose N4RP
I've been using a Comtrol Corp. RocketPort II USB 4-Port Serial Hub that I picked up used on e-bay for a very reasonable price for a year or so, works fine on XP, Win7, OS X, & Linux 73, Ross N4RP On 6/22/2011 7:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >Hi, > > As part of my preparation for Field Day,

[Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Erik Basilier
I have been very happy with one of these that I purchased at full price years ago, so when I recently got a new computer I decided to get another one for much less used. On ebay I got it for $30 from an outfit called Nationwidesurplus. It did not come with drivers, and since I had a good experience

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Igor Kosvin
craft] USB to Serial adapter that works I wonder how good these are then? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-Adapter-Multiport-Serial-Parallel-RS232-/1806 32618784?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2a0e8b0720#ht_6650wt_1226 Price seems ok. Gary On 23 June 2011 09:12, Wes Stewart wrote: > Been usi

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Cady, Fred
h.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:03 PM To: 'Elecraft' Subject: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works Hi, As part of my preparation for Field Day, I was configuring my laptop to run the K3 (I normally use a

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Gary Gregory
I wonder how good these are then? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-Adapter-Multiport-Serial-Parallel-RS232-/180632618784?pt=AU_Components&hash=item2a0e8b0720#ht_6650wt_1226 Price seems ok. Gary On 23 June 2011 09:12, Wes Stewart wrote: > Been using one for a couple of years. > > Good luck on FD

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Wes Stewart
Been using one for a couple of years. Good luck on FD.  I think I'm passing this year.  Arizona is on fire, the forests are all closed and it's 109 degrees here in Tucson as I write. --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Don Wilhelm wrote:   Hi, As part of my preparation for Field Day, I was configuring my la

[Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter that works

2011-06-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Hi, As part of my preparation for Field Day, I was configuring my laptop to run the K3 (I normally use a desktop). I was reminded that I needed a USB to serial adapter, and all I thought I had was a couple cheap prolific adapters. Then I remember I had an older 4 port USB to serial converter

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-29 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan
On 05/29/2011 03:31 AM, 492comm...@comcast.net wrote: > > > I got a new computer awhile back. I hadn't attempted to load the drivers > software until now. I would like to get my K3 to the latest firmware update > and also play with my new XG3. > > > > The Elecraft sheet for the USB to Serial C

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-28 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Phil (WA7URV), Click on start. In the typing window that has "search" etc in it, type "device manager" without the quotes. This brings up a Device Manager window. Look down the list to the line "Ports (COM & LPT)". Double click on it to expose all the COM and LPT devices. Leave this window

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-28 Thread Bruce Beford
I guess I -should- have been more specific. I meant that the KUSB needs to be plugged into the computer, before it will show up in the device manager -on the computer-. Bruce, N1RX > Maybe I'm misinterpreting your answer, but every USB-to-Serial > converter that I have - and there are several t

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-28 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/28/2011 6:59 PM, Bruce Beford wrote: > Have you plugged the KUSB in yet? It won't show in the device manager unless > it is actually attached. Maybe I'm misinterpreting your answer, but every USB-to-Serial converter that I have - and there are several types - show up in the Device Mana

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-28 Thread Bruce Beford
Have you plugged the KUSB in yet? It won't show in the device manager unless it is actually attached. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elec

[Elecraft] USB to Serial Converter Question

2011-05-28 Thread 492commish
I got a new computer awhile back.  I hadn't attempted to load the drivers software  until now.  I would like to get my K3 to the latest firmware update and also play with my new XG3. The Elecraft sheet for the USB to Serial Converter says to look at the computer's Device Manager to find Po

[Elecraft] USB to Serial adapter

2011-03-01 Thread Richard Fjeld
FYI, I have a K3 without the KUSB option installed. I have a cheap USB to Serial adapter that I need for my PC that doesn't have a serial port. I got curious about using PSK-31 with a waterfall display, so I used the adapter between the PC and the K3. Using HRD Beta version 5, I had Tx/Rx cont

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-20 Thread John Ragle
Thanks, David...for pointing these out...they should travel very well. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 11/20/2010 9:09 AM, David Christ wrote: > There is a site that seems to have the same items. > > http://www.durabook.com/notebooks.jsp > > Under the where to buy is a number of retailers including

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-20 Thread David Christ
There is a site that seems to have the same items. http://www.durabook.com/notebooks.jsp Under the where to by is a number of retailers including Best Buy and Radio Shack. David K0LUM At 8:08 AM -0500 11/20/10, John Ragle wrote: >These look like nice small "hardened" laptops. Unfortunately, th

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-20 Thread John Ragle
These look like nice small "hardened" laptops. Unfortunately, the access is very restrictive. Although I belong to a State organization, the log-in absolutely requires a fax number and a URL, which I do not have (in the sense intended here). The general public is therefore restricted from these

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-20 Thread Arthur Nienhouse
I purchased several years ago a new 14" Durabook it came with a RS232 port http://www.gammatechusa.com/java-jsp/gov/D14RY_index_gov.jsp About the company http://www.gammatechusa.com/java-jsp/gov_about_us.jsp This might be an answer for some I have been very satisfied with its performance in my

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-20 Thread Bill K9YEQ
, November 19, 2010 8:54 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues Dave, Yes, I believe a dedicated hamshack computer is in order in this day and age. I will only disagree with you on one point - the choice of a laptop instead of one of the low profile desktops

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-19 Thread Hector Padron
from that vehicle,its a moving bomb.Your life is at danger.Keep yourself and your family alive" --- On Sat, 11/20/10, David Yarnes wrote: From: David Yarnes Subject: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 2:24 AM I've noticed a

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-19 Thread Wes Stewart
enovo, but the security lock on the thing takes too much room. I have used docking stations on older Toshiba Tecras, in fact I still have an old 386 that I use with my N2PK network analyzer. Wes Stewart N7WS --- On Fri, 11/19/10, David Yarnes wrote: > From: David Yarnes > Subject: [Elecr

Re: [Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Yes, I believe a dedicated hamshack computer is in order in this day and age. I will only disagree with you on one point - the choice of a laptop instead of one of the low profile desktops. Desktops are more reliable and are repairable if they go "belly up". Besides, I hate the lapto

[Elecraft] USB to Serial Issues

2010-11-19 Thread David Yarnes
I've noticed a number of post (hundreds maybe?) about folks having one problem or the other with serial to USB converters. I've had good luck with mine, a Belkin, but others have complained often about Belkin, and other types as well. I think the main problem is the computer itself, but that's

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread ab2tc
And I have one from IOGear that looks exactly like it, too. My final choice after trying many, including the much praised Keyspan. This is the only one which does not occasionally blue-screen LP-Bridge. AB2TC - Knut Julian, G4ILO wrote: > > > That looks *exactly* like the one I've got, except

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Julian, G4ILO
Lu Romero - W4LT wrote: > > I did some research and tried a myriad of manufacturers. >>From Belkin to Radio shack to B&B Engineering, Some worked, > some did not. I have found one unit which, to date, has > handled EVERYTHING I have thrown at it with total > reliability at a very attractive pr

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Lu Romero
not want a USB interface in my radios. I am holding out for Ethernet control, but am unwilling to trust my operating time to TenTec software. Lu Romero - W4LT --- Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:35:45 -0400 From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial a

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst - move beyond emulation

2010-03-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
th.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Herr > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 11:10 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst - move beyond emulation > > > Why use rs232 emulation at all? > > Emulation = not necessarily a good thing > > When you plug

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst - move beyond emulation

2010-03-15 Thread Jeff Herr
Why use rs232 emulation at all? Emulation = not necessarily a good thing When you plug in a high speed USB disk you wouldn't expect the data to be handled via rs232 emulation would you? When you plug in a Ethernet device you wouldn't expect the data to be handled via rs232 emulation would you?

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Julian, G4ILO
N3PSJ-2 wrote: > > A good ethernet interface which communicates without using any rs-232 > serial > bus protocall internal would be best. > > Until the software vendors get their software upgraded you could use one > of > the free programs that create a virtual serial port and forward the > com

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Ken Nicely
I personally have tried about 5 different adapters. Even USB-RS232 adapters from with the same chip set different sources seem to function differently. It took 5 adapters before I found one that would work with my laptop. Personally, I think the issue is that different adaptors function differen

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Bob Naumann
K6LE said: "I personally don't see the "angst"." I have to agree. Most of the angst seems to come from those who think that USB to Serial adapters should be plug and play without doing any work. While such an idea sounds like it makes sense, the reality is quite different. Getting these things

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-15 Thread Julian, G4ILO
The thing about the RS-232 interface is that it doesn't limit anyone's options.You can use it with an RS-232 port on the computer, or with a USB interface via an adapter. You can also use it for remote control over Ethernet using one of the couple of "remote rig" products I've seen advertised rece

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Full Ethernet capability - including working directly as a network device - is in the future. Full Ethernet capability reuires more than just an Ethernet to serial converter. If the Ethernet connectio is nothing more than an Ethernet to serial converter, then why not stay with straight serial

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
e certainly no performance advantages to USB in a single channel, low speed, short range point-to-point application 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: Eric Manning [mailto:eric.mann...@engr.uvic.ca] > Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 2:42 PM > To: Joe Sub

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Nicely
You are certainly right that there would need to be some intelligence added in on the hardware side. Some of the newer pic controllers like the pic18f87j60 (I happen to be playing with that one now) have much of the functionality built into the controller and there are libraries for the routines,

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken, Agreed from the applications perspective, but the TCP/IP stack has to be implemented at the device end too. That is not just a simple 'add-on'. It requires not only the hardware interface layer, but the transport layer and the protocol layer as well as the application layer to be implem

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Nicely
There are several free software applications that emulate an rs-232 port and send the rs-232 commands to a configured ethernet IP address and port. They work very similar to LP Bridge, but they allow you to forward the communication to the ethernet port. Once the software is installed it creates

Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial

2010-03-14 Thread Adam Koczarski
2010 8:04 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector; Gary Lee > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial > > I have a four-port Edgeport and it works great for everything *except* > the K3 utility. But then I have no end of troubl

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread K6LE
I guess you don't consider Ten-Tec as a "mainstream manufacturer". The Omni VII has had a direct Ethernet connection for a couple of years. The concept is great and I enjoyed using it but the point that several have made that no current logging programs use ethernet as an interface makes it les

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, I agree that both RS-232 and 802.1 (Ethernet) are standard communications protocols and can be viable. BUT How many of the ham applications today operate over an Ethernet connection? Do you want to give up your favorite logger or radio control application because the author has coded for

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Roger de Valle
Totally agree, a direct Ethernet connection would open a world of possibilities, remote operation without a remote PC and also remove the driver dependencies that plague the USB to serial arena. I suspect it will not be long before we see it on the mainstream manufacturers equipment. Regards.

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread WILLIS COOKE
computer and am happy as a bug now.  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: S Sacco To: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Sun, March 14, 2010 7:17:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst Great debate, but perhaps misplaced? Would not a better an

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread S Sacco
Great debate, but perhaps misplaced? Would not a better answer be an Ethernet connection on the K3? 73, Steve On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Joe Planisky wrote: > Comments embedded. > > > On Mar 14, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Eric Manning wrote: > >> >>> Placing a USB port in the K3 would simply mo

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Joe Planisky
Comments embedded. On Mar 14, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Eric Manning wrote: > >> Placing a USB port in the K3 would simply move the USB UART >> currently found in the USB to serial converter onto the KIO3 >> board. > Correct, and would thus avoid the un-necessary and superfluous > packaging > and con

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Eric Manning wrote: > > > The conservative spirit is alive and well. USB seen as a dangerous and > radical innovation, forsooth. Demonizing the other side with a label (or two) is cheap. It is SO easy (and tempting) to concoct self-serving responsibilities and he

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread N2TK, Tony
12, 2010 10:05 PM To: n...@nf4l.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst A lot of PCs that "don't have a serial port" actually do have the electronics on the motherboard. If so, you can mount your own DB-9 connector on the rear panel and

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-14 Thread Eric Manning
t-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric manning >> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 2:08 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst >> >> >> All in favour of a USB port o

Re: [Elecraft] USB to serial angst

2010-03-13 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
have seen some reports that a new Prolific driver released in December has solved the problem. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Brett Howard To: Lew Phelps K6LMP Cc: Elecraft Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 3:42:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB

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