Larry you will find this list is like the news media, when it's a light
news day they come up with all manner of strange stuff.
Folks who hang around here do so because they are passionate about
Elecraft, their radios and their test equipment. When there's some big
change or a new product, all of
Joe,
The old MP dsp demod is a bit different from the MKV, as far as I know.
Given the MP.
If I shift the IF in the MP to the opposite sideband, retune with the
dial, then the signal is there just like it would be on the right
sideband. Then tap the DSP demod and 'presto' : the signal is
So I think I may have found a strange bug. Please someone tell me if
you can reproduce it.
With the latest 3.33 pre-released test I am unable to set the top two
knobs to HI/LOW adjustments. However this problem is only present when
the radio is in the CW mode. When in this mode tapping the
Larry - K2GN wrote:
There's been too many messages through here in the week with people
voicing their pleasure and dis-pleasure with the K3,
The size, the layout, etc. etc.. I'm tried of the pickering and comparing!
Can't we just talk K3s, how we use this that or the other options so us
Not too much. I only wish the K3 will get some wheels in future release. If
it had wheels, I could do Ham Radio in Quadrophonie (assuming the Sub RX is
installed) while skating.
72/3 de Peter, DL2FI, very tired
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It's ok on mine , Brett: Shift/Lo and Hi/Width both work fine in CW.
Does I/II work (i.e., long push on Hi/Width)? You may have a problem
with the switch. Have you tried SW Test in the Config menu?
73,
Drew
AF2Z
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:32:09 -0700, Brett (KC7OTG) wrote:
So I think I may have
Hi Larry,
I am sorry that some of my e-mails may have added to your woe as it is
certainly not my intention to do so. I enjoy the comments regarding the K3
and desired improvements but as for getting into arguments over the K3 well
it is not worth it. My K3 has been in use now for about
With the latest 3.33 pre-released test I am unable to set the top two
knobs to HI/LOW adjustments. However this problem is only present when
the radio is in the CW mode. When in this mode tapping the HI/BW knob
doesn't change it between modes.
When CONFIG PB CTRL CHIFT=.01 you can;t
This is an example of a nit that someone wants to make into a major issue.
The engineers could be working on fundamental things that would benefit the
radio overall (variable roofing filter is an example) that are substantial
resource burners.
Instead some one points out how backward the k3
Ah yes it does look like that is the case. Went back and read it and it
clearly states (there are some limitations at present). Thats somewhat
of an esoteric one... Wonder if at some point it can be supported.
Seems like it was a difficult one to figure out at the time so rather
than dig into
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:40:02 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO
julian.g4...@gmail.com wrote:
Larry - K2GN wrote:
There's been too many messages through here in the week with people
voicing their pleasure and dis-pleasure with the K3,
The size, the layout, etc. etc.. I'm tried of the pickering
If there is a bug it is only on your K3 because I have been using the newest FW
3.33 for 2 days now and either on CW or SSB when I tap at the LO-HI knobs they
do work as always has done.
AD4C
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. --
Albert Einstein
I see this as a feature, not a bug. HI/LO has no utility for me in CW, and it's
annoying
when I accidentally tap the DSP controls and select it. When PB CTRL is set to
0.01 --
which I like -- then the control functions are fixed as SHIFT/WIDTH in CW and
HI/LO in
SSB, exactly what I want.
In
I'm not sure if this is a thread about K3 complaints or mailboxes being
filled with irrelevant K3 stuff. The reason I don't know is that I don't
own a K3 and all of the posts about K3's are irrelevant *to me*.
Once again, I belief one of the guidelines for posting here request that we
all
I also got the problem with the pending messages. I tried to subscribe again
to the list but no change :(
73 de Roland, DC1RS
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Is this measured with high impedance probes? If I remember correctly, small
caps limit low-frequency response of K3 especially with low impedance
phones/speakers.
Ignacy
As a further experiment, I just added 3 dB to Rx bands 1-3 and the response
is now essentially +/- 0dB between 20Hz and 3.5
I am using Nabble, but finding that the list of topics (threads) in the
topics section is rather incomplete. Am I the only one having this problem
and if so what am I doing wrong? I read the list using marc.info but if I
want to reply I want to use Nabble for convenience and lots of times the
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:17:51 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:
I can't
imagine that anyone would think there is a benefit in having audio
equalization apply in data mode
Your imagination is rather limited. There are very good reasons for
both transmit and receive EQ in data modes.
Frankly, I
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:58:56 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:
The other issue is the way the memories work, which I believe that anyone
using the K3 for FM - as I expect more people will want to do when XV144's
get out in the field - will consider to be not good enough. The channel
hopping
Is this measured with high impedance probes? If I remember correctly,
small
caps limit low-frequency response of K3 especially with low impedance
phones/speakers.
Ignacy
Correct, measured with a 2K-ohm load resistance at the sound card input.
The purpose of the test was to measure only the
I'm working with Nabble on it.
I also got the problem with the pending messages. I tried to subscribe
again to the list but no change :(
73 de Roland, DC1RS
K3/100 #1243
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Thanks for your answer and your efforts!
73 de Roland, DC1RS
Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU wrote:
I'm working with Nabble on it.
I also got the problem with the pending messages. I tried to subscribe
again to the list but no change :(
73 de Roland, DC1RS
K3/100 #1243
Jim Brown-10 wrote:
Silly me. When I ordered my K3, I thought I was purchasing a radio
optimized
for HF, not VHF FM. Talk about square peg in round hole! I own several
radios
designed for VHF FM. I don't need another one.
Jim.
I've read a lot of your posts on this reflector and
I have been a ham for 57 years the first week of October. I have owned a K2
(built it myself) since September 2001.
I have a couple of other hobbies too. Yesterday I spent the morning with a
bunch of guys who do mods to their Corvettes. Most of this group have a huge
investment in their car;
I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently either
bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know the spec
and price sold/bought for.
I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I
still believe the K3 is capable of being the
Sorry to hear the K3 didn't work for you. Digimodes don't interest me at all
but I would be most interested in what you replace your K3 with and how it
works out for you.
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently
either bought or sold a used
I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
Lets face it, EQ per mode has been asked for many times. What I think he
is sick of though is the invective he receives whenever he dares to make a
criticism, something I have also suffered in the past.
73 Ian
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Hi to the list, i have a K3/100 s/n 1758, one week ago i put the KXV3A
interface on my k3.I see all instuction on the manual,also i remove the W1
and W2 jumpers on the rf board and insert all pins into the J66, ,may be is
correct all my action.
First problem is : i have an SteppIR antenna with
It'd be cheaper to unsubscribe from this mailing list.
Or just complain to Elecraft, instead of the whole list.
73, doug
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:53:17 +0100
From: Ian Maude i...@gb7mbc.net
I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
Lets face it, EQ
Jim Danehy wrote:
Then there are those who like to write emails to show others what they
know, not necessarily to assist others. I can readily see the difference
between the two.
Like you Jim, I've been a Ham for a very long time and I agree that you can
readily tell the difference between an
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:57:59 -0700 (PDT), Julian, G4ILO wrote:
The K3 comes with support for FM and, having paid for the crystal filter, I
can tell you that it does a very fine job of receiving FM, better than any
dedicated FM transceivers. Why would I want to use another transceiver for
my FM
Paul wrote:
A mod here ... is fitting a simple internal charger circuit so the batt
pack can be left in situ.
The original cover is also used, with the smaller speaker. Fit is what
could be politely called snug
By original cover I suppose that you actually are refering to the replacement
I actually learn quite a bit about the K3 (and sometimes about their
owners) from some of the complaints aired on this reflector. However, I
don't learn very much (at least not about the K3) when I read the same
complaint over and over and over again from the same owner.
73,
Dave AB7E
Making your remarks directly to Elecraft just doesn't work.
Reflector is Elecrafts' wishlist-buffer.
Ik you have something to say about K3 ,Reflector is the only place to get
some sort of consensus for improvement or direction of further FW
development. Wheter you like it or not, there will be
As to specific reasons for EQ: Many hams have strong magnetic fields
(mostly
from big power supplies) in close proximity to their operating desk,
and the
K3 uses unshielded audio transformers on audio I/O. TXEQ that rolls
off the
low end can prevent the 50/60Hz field from modulating
David,
My point was to be heard. Others write in about the changes they want,
why not me? Would I have bought the K3 any way, yes. As I stated
before in an open letter to this web sight. The ' others ' would have
you wait for the 7xxx to come out with most of the frimware and most,
if not
Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU wrote:
Here's what's going on, and what you need to do:
Nabble is a web-based way of reading the Elecraft list. When you post
from Nabble, it keeps a local copy
snip
Leigh, a belated thank you for taking the time for your detailed reply. I
haven't looked here
Val-12 wrote:
We already have heard the same words 6-7 years ago. However the
discussed rig was K2 and the dreamed one - K3. Now we have K3
bigger than K2. I'm sure that there will be voices for K5 bigger than K4
too.
Yeah maybe, but compromises made to keep the K3 small are still
Would you settle for a 'two-touch' method for bandchanging? If so, it
is already there - set CONFIG: MEM 0-9 to BAND SEL (see the manual
page 56).
After that, assign one band to each of the 10 keypad buttons and the K3
will remember the last used frequency on a band - tap the MV button and
And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a single
receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the other VFO,why
both have to be slaved and moved together when we could leave one in let say
40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW? All foreign radios
Olli,
Sorry for the 2 day old response, but I did not see any other answers to
your question.
The transmit stages are associated with the main receiver - they cannot
be associated with the sub-RX.
If you have VFO A on a different band than VFO B, without the sub-RX you
cannot listen on the
Hector Padron wrote:
And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a
single receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the
other VFO,why both have to be slaved and moved together when we could
leave one in let say 40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW?
I have to agree that band switching on the K3 is not the most user
friendly and having to step though all the bands is a pain in the butt.
That said, you can only do so much within a givin size; many features that
can be eaisly encorperated into/onto a large front panel have to be
presented
Hector,
No need to slave the VFOs - if they are slaved, hold the SUB button to
unlink the VFOs.
Tap A/B to swap between the two VFO frequencies - it works even if they
are on different bands.
73,
Don W3FPR
Hector Padron wrote:
And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3
You knowYou really help me with that comment. I had never thought about
using the VFO A/B for memories for 2 segments of each band. Silly me!
This
is almost as good as band stacking registers. NoI wouldn't want one VFO
to be stuck on one band as you mentioned. Thanks for you post.
Thanks Brendan,I just did it and you are right,I am now with VFO A at 40M and
VFO B at 20M each one even on different modes,I haven't try this since 4
firmwares back and probably didn't realize that was one of the upgrades
done,man I love this group in spite of the fights,If one have a doubt
BlankAt least the K3 allows one to step through the bands -both-
directions and unwanted bands can be locked out / skipped.
It's not the slightest issue for me.
I've owned a series of Kenwoods that one could only step through
the bands in -one- direction ... upward. (;-(
73! Ken Kopp -
I just loaded ver: 3.33. My K3 gets a much higher S meter reading on the
broadcast band. Seems to really be more sensitive, not just a change in the
meter.
73
Alan
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Jim Brown-10 wrote:
Yes, it is carping, because the K3 was not DESIGNED to be a 2M FM radio
for
operation on repeaters. The 2M board is a nice AFTERTHOUGHT, a nice
package
for remote use that obviates the need for an outboard transverter.
Something that appears to have escaped you
Because FT5GA is weak on 40m I listen to it using the diversity mode. The
reception is much better. For transmit I attempted to use XIT. However, with
XIT the SUB frequency changes. Is this on purpose?
Ignacy
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About the only thing worth reading regarding the K3 are the firmware
announcements and the occasional post from Elecraft. The rest, for
the most part, is worse than the effects of a touch controlled lamp
sitting right next to the antenna. It's much quieter
stepping through the bands one at a time. If the K4 changes nothing else,
I
hope it changes that by providing a one-touch method for selecting a band.
With a few changes and additions, the K3 could be turned into a K4 with
reasonable effort. Here's what I envision:
- Create a new
Suicide is not permitted under current IARU regulations.
Kent K9ZTV
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
I really don't care any more. I don't
plan to be around here much longer.
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I don't know - call me a Ludite but it seems that the design team at
Elecraft is very small and definitely a limited resource. I would rather
they not be spread too thin. My preference would be for them to
concentrate on performance improvements of the K3 (or Kx if you prefer)
rather than
Yes but unless the response remains that way when an 8 ohm speaker is
there its not a very useful measurement.
~BTH
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 07:56 -0700, Ignacy wrote:
Is this measured with high impedance probes? If I remember correctly, small
caps limit low-frequency response of K3 especially
Ignacy wrote:
Because FT5GA is weak on 40m I listen to it using the diversity mode. The
reception is much better. For transmit I attempted to use XIT. However,
with XIT the SUB frequency changes. Is this on purpose?
Ignacy
There's a simpler way to do what you want. Enter diversity RX
I sincerely doubt that the K3 would have anywhere near the following it
has if it didn't offer top-end competition-grade performance. If you
truly do not value those characteristics, then I can quite well
understand why you think it might not be the rig for you.
I would be curious, though,
I'm sorry, but as both a K3 and TS870 owner, I disagree. The decision to make
the K3 the size that it is compromised the ergonomics, pure and simple. That's
an engineering decision, that I as an engineer understand, but nevertheless,
the K3 isn't even close to the '870 in ergonomics. For
Except maybe get on the air when the phone (or cable) lines are down ;-)
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On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Paul Christensen wrote:
... There's nothing we cannot do over the Internet that we can do
locally.
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Personally I have one folder that the list as a whole is filtered into
then I have another folder that any @elecraft.com or lyle's email
address go into.
You can do this with gmail using the label's. This is how I do it. If
you want further help on how to make it go let me know and I can
Yes but unless the response remains that way when an 8 ohm
speaker is there its not a very useful measurement.
Since the speaker coupling capacitors are 470 uF, the roll off
at 100 Hz with 8 Ohm speakers is 3 dB. That's completely
acceptable for a communications receiver ... and probably
If something isn't picked up, you'll have to repeat yourself.
That *may* be frustrating for users and causing irritation to
others.
If something is not picked up, it may be because it is a bad
idea or the majority of other users feed it would be a step
backward. Constant carping by a
This method may be different than you had with your TS-850
and N1MM, but the capability is there - just tap A/B (or
have N1MM do it).
In N1MM Logger: Alt-F10 (exchange VFOs).
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
Yes but unless the response remains that way when an 8 ohm speaker is
there its not a very useful measurement.
The plots were meant to observe the radical changes in audio response across
various firmware. These aren't subtle changes as one can see from the
unloaded plots.
With 330uF caps
Boyscout wrote : I've become accustomed to most of the K3's compromises for a
small
front panel, but the one that still drives me CRAZY is band-switching by
stepping through the bands one at a time. If the K4 changes nothing else, I
hope it changes that by providing a one-touch method for
I have K3 s/n 3020 with firmware 3.11.
I'm planning to upgrade firmware at the next release--I didn't see 3.14 as
important for me.
I've been using the K3 on 80 through 20 mostly, with great success and
satisfaction--I love this radio.
I have in filter locations 1-4
1 - 13 khz, 0 gain, 0
Walt,
I suggest that the K3 owner contact k3supp...@elecraft.com for assistance.
Many on-the-air comments that I have heard pass along inaccurate
information (about many subjects, not just the K3). The only K3 mods
that I know about involving diodes are the KPA3 12V Sense Mod and theK3
VFO
My buddy K1VW, who is not on this reflector, asked me to look into a
problem with his K3, and I am turning to the reflector for assistance.
John received a report from another station (not a local) of a spurious
emission while transmitting CW on 160 meters. Evidently the spur was
loud enough
Tnx for the hint. With REV it even provides the diversity mode for the other
frequency.
Ignacy
Bill W4ZV wrote:
Ignacy wrote:
Because FT5GA is weak on 40m I listen to it using the diversity mode.
The reception is much better. For transmit I attempted to use XIT.
However, with XIT
I can't get the second smaller readout to display under the main readout. I
turn the B knob and it's not in that menu.
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My software is about six months old and I heard rumor that the K3's power may
be backed down to 100 watts. My amplifier is a little testy and going from
100 watts to 110 watts is the difference of 500 watts on the amp. I am not
sure if I want to update it yet. My K3 is working fine so far. What
110W is the maximum with the latest firmware. Running any higher than
that is not recommended it probably should invalidate your
warranty ;)
~Iain / N6ML
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:22 PM, -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-
connectme...@hotmail.com wrote:
My software is about six months old and
You have a real problem with your amp if going from 100 watts to 110
watts drive gives you a difference of 500 watts output from the
amplifier. Actually, the rest of us are the ones who have the problem
with your amplifier if it really does that. Do you realize the kind of
distortion you
We switched our frequency to 14.314 MHz today to try to dodge some QRM that
has been persistent on 14.316 for some people. That change was positive for
one of the stations that has reported issues before. However, today a DX
contest was providing plenty of QRM all over this end of the band.
A 10W difference makes 500W more? that's a relation of 50 to 1.MMM
sounds wierd,I have never seen an amp that makes that relation,there is
definitively something wrong in there.
AD4C
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Good Evening,
Toward the end of the second net Mike mentioned QRN. At that point I
realized I had been ignoring it the entire time. Yes, there was QRN, but,
since it was 40 meters it seemed normal :) Twenty meters was OK but spotty in
coverage. It seemed rather long too. Weather
Just how much power are you running? If going from 100 to 110 makes a
500 watt difference in the output, then you must be putting out 5000
watts with 100 in, assuming the amplifier is linear.
Somehow I suspect this isn't the situation...
Seriously, in general amplifiers need about 50 watts
I tried a non amplified D104 and it was not good at all. The audio was real
low when the mike was at 60. It had a slight fan noise and I had no fans
running. The mic was wired up right because when I put it back on my ADI
radio it worked well. My ADI radio hand mic works on my K3. ADI and
The D104's are getting quite old and many / most have
elements that have gone bad with age. There are many
elements that can be fitted into the space in the lollypop's
round head. I -think- Heil makes a suitable cartridge.
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
Yes, I'm going to get it checked out. Full legal limit is at 110 watts. I
have original tubes in the amp.
I guess I need two new 3-500z's. I already have new caps in the power
supply.
Jack Brindle wrote:
Just how much power are you running? If going from 100 to 110 makes a
500 watt
The non-amplified D-104 microphone is a great one for frequency response
*if* it is working into a very high impedance (50k to 2 megohms).
Unfortunately, the input impedance of the K3 and most other modern
transceivers is in the vicinityof 600 ohms, so the D-104 will sound
very bad when used
I am currently reconfiguring my workshop and have two pieces of test
equipment that may be of interest to Elecrafters.
The spectrum analyzer is an HP8568b 1.5 Ghz analyzer with the companion
HP8444a Opt. 59 tracking generator. The analyzer was purchased from a
calibration shop and was calibrated
Seriously, in general amplifiers need about 50 watts input to
get full legal output. That's about a 15dB max gain as set by
the FCC rules if I remember correctly.
Most 3-500 based amplifiers with 2800 V (no load) on the plates
require 120 Watts or so for legal limit output. That's about
When I try to use the FM filter for AM listening, the results
are very poor. Specifically, poor bass and significant
ringing, even when adjusted for max bandwidth, which shows as
5 khz on the display.
If I turn the FM filter off, and use the 2.7 khz 5-pole
filter for AM listening,
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