[Elecraft] Help - K-3 TMP cables
Thanks, everyone who responded so quickly. I'm sure I'll be able to resolve the problem in the morning . Didn't see the KSYN3A instructions when I looked on the website -- 73, Pete N4ZR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help - K-3 TMP cables
Pete, Here is the link for the KSYN3A synthesizer installation instructions. See Figure 13 on page 17 for the cable routing for a dual receive K3. https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3S/Manuals%20Downloads/E740257%20KSYN3A%20Installation%20Rev%20A6.pdf 73, Bill - NA5DX On 3/11/2023 4:13 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I'm in a bit of a mess. I took my K-3 (S/N 4275) with the sub-RX apart in order to replace Q3, the MOSFET that switches the Key Out jack, which is buried under the sub-RX and the I/O subassemblies. In the process, I managed to pop loose the cable that goes from VCO Out (J84 of the *main* synthesizer board), connecting presumably to somewhere on the big main RX board. But I can't, for the life of me, find an empty TMP jack anywhere on the RF board. Judging by the length and curvature of the orphan cable, it should go somewhere on the left side of the main board, toward the left \, but there's nothing there. The problem is that the updated KSYN3A synthesizers in my K3 were installed at the factory, so I don't have the usual documentation and the units look very different from the originals (my assembly manual only covers the original synthesizers, and also looks much different in the section dealing with the cabling of the synthesizers) Can anyone tell me where that cable is supposed to go? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help - K-3 TMP cables
I'm in a bit of a mess. I took my K-3 (S/N 4275) with the sub-RX apart in order to replace Q3, the MOSFET that switches the Key Out jack, which is buried under the sub-RX and the I/O subassemblies. In the process, I managed to pop loose the cable that goes from VCO Out (J84 of the *main* synthesizer board), connecting presumably to somewhere on the big main RX board. But I can't, for the life of me, find an empty TMP jack anywhere on the RF board. Judging by the length and curvature of the orphan cable, it should go somewhere on the left side of the main board, toward the left \, but there's nothing there. The problem is that the updated KSYN3A synthesizers in my K3 were installed at the factory, so I don't have the usual documentation and the units look very different from the originals (my assembly manual only covers the original synthesizers, and also looks much different in the section dealing with the cabling of the synthesizers) Can anyone tell me where that cable is supposed to go? -- 73, Pete N4ZR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with mailing list
Robert Strickland via Elecraft writes: > When I send an email to this list, the "from" field prints my name and > "via Elecraft" together in the from/correspondents column. What am I > doing to get the "via Elecraft" and what do I do to get rid of it so > that just my name appears? I am using Thunderbird as a mail client on > a W10-64 machine. Thanks in advance. tl;dr: The world is broken and the only thing that you can do is to move from yahoo to a provider whose addresses you see on the list without this munging. A few things come together: - Mailinglists resend messages, normally with the From: field unchanged. - As part of spamfighting, mail senders often add digital signatures (DKIM) so that recipients can tell a message was sent by the domain in From: - Mailinglists add subject tags and footers. I view this as a bug because it breaks signatures, and delivers a message From: someone with content they didn't send -- but I'm odd, it's very common and many think this is ok. (People can sort/filter on List-Id: header.) - Some domains publish a policy that says "if the messages fails DKIM and it didn't come from my servers, reject it." yahoo/aol/verizon.net (all the same thing now) is one of those domains. This is called "DMARC reject" and fairly few places do it. - Therefore, messages to lists from DMARC reject places experience one of: * if there is no subject tag, no footer, and no From: munging: DKIM is intact and all is ok * if there is modification then the redistributed message fails DKIM and hence DMARC * If there is modification and the From: line is rewritten to be from the list, so that the original sender's domain is not looked up for DMARC rules, it is delivered. But it is broken, because "reply" which should send a message to the sender, sends to the list, risking publishing private correspondence. - There is Authenticated Receive Chain which might be a way out, but it might just be too complicated. So solutions are: - move your email to a provider which does not publish a DMARC reject policy. It's a good idea to move away from yahoo anyway, because their inbound spam filtering is broken and unfixable, in my experience (their customers could not get mail from me to land in their INBOX despite trying pretty hard, and their support could not/would not explain why). - configure mailinglists to 1) not add subject tags 2) not add footers and 3) not do From: rewriting. I recommend doing both, but both are easier said than done. (As an addendum, the list blocks messages with OpenPGP signatures.) 73 de n1dam __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with mailing list
For me, it depends on whether the message was also sent to me directly. Your initial message included the "from Elecraft" notation since I received it only through the mailing list, but your reply to me didn't include it since you sent it to me and the mailing list. I'm using Gmail, but if your email client works similarly, you should generally see the notation only on messages where you haven't yet replied. 73, Julie On Tue, Jun 14, 2022, 16:06 Robert Strickland wrote: > Julia... > > If so, why doesn't everyone have similar notation? > > ...robert > > On 6/14/2022 19:56, Julia Tuttle wrote: > > The list adds it, and you can't remove it. > > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2022, 13:28 Robert Strickland via Elecraft > > mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote: > > > > When I send an email to this list, the "from" field prints my name > and > > "via Elecraft" together in the from/correspondents column. What am I > > doing to get the "via Elecraft" and what do I do to get rid of it so > > that just my name appears? I am using Thunderbird as a mail client > on a > > W10-64 machine. Thanks in advance. > > > > ..robert > > -- > > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > > rc...@verizon.net.usa > > Syracuse, New York, USA > > ______ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> > > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > > <mailto:ju...@juliatuttle.net> > > > > -- > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > rc...@verizon.net.usa > Syracuse, New York, USA > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with mailing list
Julia... If so, why doesn't everyone have similar notation? ...robert On 6/14/2022 19:56, Julia Tuttle wrote: The list adds it, and you can't remove it. On Tue, Jun 14, 2022, 13:28 Robert Strickland via Elecraft mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote: When I send an email to this list, the "from" field prints my name and "via Elecraft" together in the from/correspondents column. What am I doing to get the "via Elecraft" and what do I do to get rid of it so that just my name appears? I am using Thunderbird as a mail client on a W10-64 machine. Thanks in advance. ..robert -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net <mailto:ju...@juliatuttle.net> -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA ______ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with mailing list
The list adds it, and you can't remove it. On Tue, Jun 14, 2022, 13:28 Robert Strickland via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > When I send an email to this list, the "from" field prints my name and > "via Elecraft" together in the from/correspondents column. What am I > doing to get the "via Elecraft" and what do I do to get rid of it so > that just my name appears? I am using Thunderbird as a mail client on a > W10-64 machine. Thanks in advance. > > ...robert > -- > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > rc...@verizon.net.usa > Syracuse, New York, USA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] help with mailing list
When I send an email to this list, the "from" field prints my name and "via Elecraft" together in the from/correspondents column. What am I doing to get the "via Elecraft" and what do I do to get rid of it so that just my name appears? I am using Thunderbird as a mail client on a W10-64 machine. Thanks in advance. ...robert -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help with K3 and Pactor P4 7800
I'm looking for assistance connecting the K3 and Pactor P4 7800. I have the new KIO3B board in the K3' You can reply offline. Thanks, John Myers II WB9EWM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help a Blind guy sell his gear?
Jeff wrote: <<<>>> Although I have no expertise on KX2 pricing, I wonder if you're able to access the QRZ.com "swapmeet”. If so, you can easily check present and past sales there. In case you've never done it: You need to have a QRZ account, so go to QRZ.com, and choose "Subscribe" from the menu bar at the top, Once you are subscribed, choose the "Swapmeet" menu from the same menu bar, then choose "Ham radio gear for sale". Once you get to the long list of for-sale items, you'll find a search block where you can search for "KX2" to see what people are selling them for. If you are not able to use QRZ, I hope other list members here can give you pricing advice, and perhaps even make an offer for your stuff. Good luck. 73, Saul W3WHK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help a Blind guy sell his gear?
ith a brandname > power supply this is a liability case. > With an Amazon Special, whom would you make responsible? > > That is why I either use brandname power supplies or only charge when I > can attend the charge process. I don't want to badmouth your purchasing > decision, but perhaps this gives something to ponder. > > Geert Jan > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:33:34 +0100 > From: "Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)" > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Simulated Stereo > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi Bob, > >>> Yuck! > > Indeed that's what I would say also. > I for one can't stand anti-phased headphones. I once discussed that over > using stereo-headphones being fed at tip and ring and left the common > open. The comment was: No one hears that. Well I do! Splitting mono into > high and low pitched sound seems fine at start but fatigues just as much > as anti-phase. Only the spacial setting on the KX3 is very useful but > even then I like to switch back to mono at times. > > Just my ?0,01 > > 73 > Peter - PA0PJE > > Op 28-12-2021 om 02:18 schreef Bob McGraw: >> Yuck!? As a retired recording studio engineer, CBS Records, having the >> same signal out of phase by 180 degrees to one ear, is much like >> sticking and ice pick in ones ears. >> >> Most systems will have a variable phase shift depending on frequency, >> usually not to exceed 30 degrees.?? In this case, the leading phase >> signal will appear from that direction.?? In others, bandpass filtering >> moves the higher frequency to one side and the lower to the other.? From >> an audio perspective, this still sounds like "fake stereo".??? It is >> just messed up monaural.? There's lots of that today. >> >> The K3S has the AFX function that does an excellent job of signal >> spatialization and sounds quite nice on SSB signals. >> >> 73 >> Bob, K4TAX > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:55 -0600 > From: Ronnie Hull > To: Elecraft > Subject: [Elecraft] P3 with TXmon and Svga for sale > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I have elected to part with my one owner P3. > P3-F s/n 779 > P3TXMON-F > P3SVGA-F > All purchased new by me. I can supply pictures however as my K3 is ONCE AGAIN > in for repair at Elecraft I can?t show it in operation > > Price is $1000 shipped in CONUS > With original boxes and manuals > > Out of country will have to pay shipping > Contact me at w5SUM at Comcast dot net > > Thanks and 73 > > Ron W5SUM > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:12:31 -0800 > From: Robert Sands > To: g...@w2cs.org > Cc: elecraft > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I'm Thrilled with my new K4 > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > My awe and excitement hierarchy report varies with age and experience, the > older I get, the more muted my global response. My new K4 gets a 10/10. K3 > gets an 8. Icom 775 gets a 9 initially in 1996 but downgraded to a 7 when > K3 replaced it in 2008. Most exciting was Signal One CX7A in 1971. > Breakthru technology then. RF clipping and 1.5 shape factor. Youthful > excitement was overflowing. Other rigs nIce but not special. K4 will > possibly be my last supreme rig, especially when pure signal arrives. K4 is > beautiful to behold and use. My spec chasing days are over. Now it it is > simple experience and dazzle. Bravo Elecraft!! > Bob > K7VO > >> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 2:37 PM Gary J Ferdinand wrote: >> >> lol He didn?t promise a technical paper, just relating his pleasure with >> the rig. Happy New Year >> >> 73/Gary W2CS >> >> >> >> >>>> On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:05, David Gilbert wrote: >>> >>> >>> "This is the best rig I've ever used" >>> >>> That's a bit vague. Which other rigs are you comparing it to, and what >> specifically makes the K4 so much better? I assume you like the >> ergonomics, but have you also found any performance advantages, and if so >> what are they? >>> >>> Thanks and 73, >>> Dave AB7E >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/28/2021 8:41 AM, k2we via Elecraft wrote: >>>> I just had to drop the list a note.. After waiting almost 18 months, my >> new K4 a
Re: [Elecraft] HELP WITH FT-8 ON MY K3S SETUP
A starting place is Don, W3FPR’s webpage: W3FPR.com. At the bottom of the sidebar is a write up on how to set up Elecraft radios for digital modes. Expert guidance. 73, Brian, K0DTJ > On Nov 27, 2021, at 08:43, Nolte Dennis wrote: > > I would help in setting up my K3S for FT-8...I have downloaded > WSJT-2.5.1...and my logging program is HRDbut don't need to log > contacts on that program... > Thanks for any suggestions on the required setting > 73 > Denny > W3HVY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to huntin...@coastside.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP WITH FT-8 ON MY K3S SETUP
What settings do you need help with? On Sat, Nov 27, 2021, 11:42 Nolte Dennis wrote: > I would help in setting up my K3S for FT-8...I have downloaded > WSJT-2.5.1...and my logging program is HRDbut don't need to log > contacts on that program... > Thanks for any suggestions on the required setting > 73 > Denny > W3HVY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] HELP WITH FT-8 ON MY K3S SETUP
I would help in setting up my K3S for FT-8...I have downloaded WSJT-2.5.1...and my logging program is HRDbut don't need to log contacts on that program... Thanks for any suggestions on the required setting 73 Denny W3HVY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Folks, we are exceeding the OT limit for list postings on this topic. [THREAD CLOSED] Please take the discussion off list in the interest of relieving email overload for others. 73, Eric WA6HHQ List moderator, among other things.. *elecraft.com <http://elecraft.com>* > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I do apologize for contributing to this off-topic thread...
A technical issue for cable modems is the uplink.
For downlink, the cable modem system uses one or more "TV channels to
sends its data on. There is encoding and all that but the signal isn't
un-like a TV channel.
The uplink is where the problem lies.
Cable modems typically use low frequencies (up to 50 MHz or so) to
transmit their packets from the enduser modem to the headend. You'd need
a channel bandwith of 8 MHz or so. Where does a cable operator find a
clean 8MHz channel under 50 MHz?
Keep in mind that the ingress signal (from the enduser to the headend)
collects all the RF leakages from the environment. All poor cabling
together creates a massive reception antenna. And a single strong
carrier in the channel may block it.
I had a chance to see the upstream spectrum ("ingress signals") and it
was not a pretty sight.
I know that one local cable operator had to change channels because in
the evening, strong shortwave broadcast signals leaking in were blocking
the ingress channel of the cable-TV modems.
For this reason, the ingress system, in the DOCSYS system I looked at,
was using direct-sequence spread spectrum (DSSS) to "smear" these
carriers over the spectrum and reduce their impact.
Now, consider very strong carriers on the ingress. Carriers so strong
that the conversion gain of the DSSS system doesn't help enough. In that
case, the ingress channel is still fully blocked despite the DSSS measures.
What impact things a lot, of course, is leakly cabling. And from what I
hear, American cable-TV systems have lots of leakage issues (here in
PA0, cable systems are underground and are shielded very, very well; any
leakage here is typically poor enduser cabling).
While the response of the tech is very wrong, perhaps the above explains
a bit what is happening and the reason for his reaction. If it were me,
I would see if things can be solved along these lines, considering that
from what I read in QST, many USA cable-TV systems have a massive,
massive leaking problem.
In the Netherlands, more and more spectrum is being moved from
"broadcast TV" / cable-TV to mobile services. Cable-TV signals are now
on frequencies that are also used by mobile phone users, with
transmitters (handies) on short distance and hence strong signals.
Suddenly the jammers are not us pesky hamradio guys, but every person
carrying a mobile phone. And the community now understands that the
proper fix for this is not banishing the mobiles, but better cabling.
For cable-TV, there are now "kabelkeur" (www.kabelkeur.nl) qualified
cables that have double shielding, and, more important, good connectors,
connectors that frankly put the typical hamradio RF connector to shame.
And I wonder how this compares to the situation of the topic starter.
With emotions running high we won't get anywhere, but I hope the local
ARRL community can step in, find out if my hypothesis is the root issue
and work from there, considering that proper shielding is a CATV
operator issue and no-one else's.
73,
Geert Jan PE1HZG
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Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Shortly after I got on the air with my brand new Galaxy GT-550 (550 watt sweep tube finals), he called one evening to tell me I was "coming through his wife's organ." Imagine my dismay ... I seem to remember that the GT-550 was plagued by spurious... Don't remember if it was harmonics or parasitics or mixing products. - Jerry KF6VB On 2021-10-21 17:45, Lyn Norstad wrote: About the time I was first licensed, in August of 1969, a neighbor had purchased an electronic organ for his wife. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:57 PM To: Rick Tavan Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS If my memory is still working [chancy at best], "Madman Muntz" pioneered the 21 MHz TV IF. Ranks right in there with the FCC's decision to 86 Channel 1, move the hams from 5 and 2 1/2 meters to 6 and 2 meters and locate TV Ch 2 at 5 meters, putting the 2nd harmonic of 10 [and the 4th harmonic of 20] in the middle of it. Having Ch 2 right next to 6m didn't help that band much either. You're fortunate the neighbor gave up 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Rick Tavan wrote on 10/21/2021 4:29 PM: OK, gotta tell my favorite TVI tale: When I was a kid, my dad got a TVI complaint from our next door neighbor in Maryland: K3QDC: Are you sure it's me? Neighbor: Yes, you said and... K3QDC: Yes, that was me! Neighbor: ... and then he said . K3QDC: Oh, I see. Ma'am, the fellow who said that is in Texas. Your TV appears to be an excellent shortwave receiver. This was on 15M AM and the TV in question had a 21 Mc. I.F., ubiquitous in those days. The neighbor gave up. /Rick N6XI Formerly K3QDD On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:54 PM Fred mailto:k6dg...@gmail.com>> wrote: Circa 1958: Neighbor and TV Repairman came to my parent's door ... "Your son's ham radio is interfering with my TV. Dad: "Our son has been away at college for 2 years and his radio equipment is packed up in the closet." Long pause ... then TV guy, "Well his wire antenna is still up there and it's between my customer and Mt. Wilson, and it's sucking all the signal out of the air." Dad: "I'll ask him to take it down next time he comes home." That didn't happen 'til maybe another year, I had a full time job at the local TV station at college and didn't get home very often. I did finally take it down, neighbor's TV still didn't work well, and he still blamed me. -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Kris Mraz wrote on 10/20/2021 6:23 PM: > When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor complained of interference. I went over to his house to watch for TVI while a ham friend was at my house keying the transmitter. Suddenly a window started vibrating causing a buzzing sound. He said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out from another room “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. > > Never had another complaint after that. > > Kris N5KM -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com <mailto:rta...@gmail.com> -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
On 10/21/2021 1:10 PM, Ron Bell via Elecraft wrote: Unless you have no alternatives, find another ISP. Comcast is not a great or consumer focused company. If you have a lot of time and energy, you can fight this and may win. If you dont have Verizon or an alternative wireline company in your area, look into Starlink, still in Beta but I am hearing great reviews from those who have it. All well and good in an ideal situation, but knowing the area that Eric lives in (Silicon Valley) there are all sorts of "alternatives" that may be available but in reality are vendors based on getting service (as it is popularly called "bandwidth") from Comcast and/or Verizon "behind the curtain". Up here (suburban Portland) I did lots of research on features, service and reliability before settling on the Comcast bundle of internet, voice phone, and Xfinity cable. Living in an already-wired apartment I didn't have much of a choice. I was fortunate enough to talk the management into letting me put up my VHF/UHF j-poles - I didn't want to press my luck by having more wire/cable run in. I had (where did I put it?) the direct phone number of the regional service manager but fortunately never had to use it. My one and only problem was resolved locally to my satisfaction the first time without "sturm und drang". In sum - you get what you pay for. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
About the time I was first licensed, in August of 1969, a neighbor had purchased an electronic organ for his wife. Shortly after I got on the air with my brand new Galaxy GT-550 (550 watt sweep tube finals), he called one evening to tell me I was "coming through his wife's organ." Imagine my dismay ... 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 6:57 PM To: Rick Tavan Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS If my memory is still working [chancy at best], "Madman Muntz" pioneered the 21 MHz TV IF. Ranks right in there with the FCC's decision to 86 Channel 1, move the hams from 5 and 2 1/2 meters to 6 and 2 meters and locate TV Ch 2 at 5 meters, putting the 2nd harmonic of 10 [and the 4th harmonic of 20] in the middle of it. Having Ch 2 right next to 6m didn't help that band much either. You're fortunate the neighbor gave up 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Rick Tavan wrote on 10/21/2021 4:29 PM: > OK, gotta tell my favorite TVI tale: When I was a kid, my dad got a > TVI complaint from our next door neighbor in Maryland: > > K3QDC: Are you sure it's me? > Neighbor: Yes, you said and... > K3QDC: Yes, that was me! > Neighbor: ... and then he said . > K3QDC: Oh, I see. Ma'am, the fellow who said that is in Texas. Your TV > appears to be an excellent shortwave receiver. > > This was on 15M AM and the TV in question had a 21 Mc. I.F., > ubiquitous in those days. The neighbor gave up. > > /Rick N6XI > Formerly K3QDD > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:54 PM Fred <mailto:k6dg...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Circa 1958: Neighbor and TV Repairman came to my parent's door ... > "Your son's ham radio is interfering with my TV. Dad: "Our son > has been > away at college for 2 years and his radio equipment is packed up > in the > closet." Long pause ... then TV guy, "Well his wire antenna is > still up > there and it's between my customer and Mt. Wilson, and it's > sucking all > the signal out of the air." Dad: "I'll ask him to take it down next > time he comes home." That didn't happen 'til maybe another year, > I had > a full time job at the local TV station at college and didn't get > home > very often. I did finally take it down, neighbor's TV still > didn't work > well, and he still blamed me. > -- > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > Kris Mraz wrote on 10/20/2021 6:23 PM: > > When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor > complained of interference. I went over to his house to watch for > TVI while a ham friend was at my house keying the transmitter. > Suddenly a window started vibrating causing a buzzing sound. He > said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out from another room > “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. > > > > Never had another complaint after that. > > > > Kris N5KM > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com <mailto:rta...@gmail.com> > > > > -- > -- > > Rick Tavan > Truckee and Saratoga, CA -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
In my case my DX-20 had not yet been on the air when the neighbor across the street complained about me wiping out his stereo system just after my Dad helped me put up a 40m vertical up on the roof. After the neighbor found out I did not even have my transmitter he stopped complaining. Word got out ( my Dad?) and no one in the neighborhood ever complained again. 73, Tom W7SUA ( former WN7SUA) On 10/20/2021 1:29 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: When I fired up my first transmitter as a novice (a DX-20!), little did I know it was leaking into a break in the coax cable in the attic. I found out two days later when a ham I'd never met copied my callsign off his TV. He looked me up in the callbook (I was a few blocks from his place), introduced himself, and helped me find and repair the cable. I ended up with a clean signal and a great Elmer. But this is not the good ol' days, apparently. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
If my memory is still working [chancy at best], "Madman Muntz" pioneered the 21 MHz TV IF. Ranks right in there with the FCC's decision to 86 Channel 1, move the hams from 5 and 2 1/2 meters to 6 and 2 meters and locate TV Ch 2 at 5 meters, putting the 2nd harmonic of 10 [and the 4th harmonic of 20] in the middle of it. Having Ch 2 right next to 6m didn't help that band much either. You're fortunate the neighbor gave up 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Rick Tavan wrote on 10/21/2021 4:29 PM: OK, gotta tell my favorite TVI tale: When I was a kid, my dad got a TVI complaint from our next door neighbor in Maryland: K3QDC: Are you sure it's me? Neighbor: Yes, you said and... K3QDC: Yes, that was me! Neighbor: ... and then he said . K3QDC: Oh, I see. Ma'am, the fellow who said that is in Texas. Your TV appears to be an excellent shortwave receiver. This was on 15M AM and the TV in question had a 21 Mc. I.F., ubiquitous in those days. The neighbor gave up. /Rick N6XI Formerly K3QDD On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:54 PM Fred <mailto:k6dg...@gmail.com>> wrote: Circa 1958: Neighbor and TV Repairman came to my parent's door ... "Your son's ham radio is interfering with my TV. Dad: "Our son has been away at college for 2 years and his radio equipment is packed up in the closet." Long pause ... then TV guy, "Well his wire antenna is still up there and it's between my customer and Mt. Wilson, and it's sucking all the signal out of the air." Dad: "I'll ask him to take it down next time he comes home." That didn't happen 'til maybe another year, I had a full time job at the local TV station at college and didn't get home very often. I did finally take it down, neighbor's TV still didn't work well, and he still blamed me. -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Kris Mraz wrote on 10/20/2021 6:23 PM: > When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor complained of interference. I went over to his house to watch for TVI while a ham friend was at my house keying the transmitter. Suddenly a window started vibrating causing a buzzing sound. He said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out from another room “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. > > Never had another complaint after that. > > Kris N5KM -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com <mailto:rta...@gmail.com> -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
OK, gotta tell my favorite TVI tale: When I was a kid, my dad got a TVI complaint from our next door neighbor in Maryland: K3QDC: Are you sure it's me? Neighbor: Yes, you said and... K3QDC: Yes, that was me! Neighbor: ... and then he said . K3QDC: Oh, I see. Ma'am, the fellow who said that is in Texas. Your TV appears to be an excellent shortwave receiver. This was on 15M AM and the TV in question had a 21 Mc. I.F., ubiquitous in those days. The neighbor gave up. /Rick N6XI Formerly K3QDD On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 6:54 PM Fred wrote: > Circa 1958: Neighbor and TV Repairman came to my parent's door ... > "Your son's ham radio is interfering with my TV. Dad: "Our son has been > away at college for 2 years and his radio equipment is packed up in the > closet." Long pause ... then TV guy, "Well his wire antenna is still up > there and it's between my customer and Mt. Wilson, and it's sucking all > the signal out of the air." Dad: "I'll ask him to take it down next > time he comes home." That didn't happen 'til maybe another year, I had > a full time job at the local TV station at college and didn't get home > very often. I did finally take it down, neighbor's TV still didn't work > well, and he still blamed me. > -- > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > Kris Mraz wrote on 10/20/2021 6:23 PM: > > When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor complained of > interference. I went over to his house to watch for TVI while a ham friend > was at my house keying the transmitter. Suddenly a window started vibrating > causing a buzzing sound. He said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out > from another room “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. > > > > Never had another complaint after that. > > > > Kris N5KM > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
On 10/21/2021 2:24 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: I currently have 235 Mbps down, and about 20 up for ~$80/mo. My speeds are nowhere near that in the Santa Cruz Mountains, but certainly more than good enough -- typically 85 MBPS down. The problem with their "service" is the lack of adequate backup for the loss of PG power at their fiber repeaters. 6 hours is the best they can fit in the enclosures, and before our massive wildfire last summer, battery capacity had deteriorated to 5 minutes. It's not uncommon for storms and failures in the PG system to last 2-4 days. With no cell coverage under normal conditions. when PG drops, we're out of biz. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
We had satellite several years ago, and had frequent outages - especially in the Spring - due to severe weather, sometimes far away, but in line with the satellites. We first switched to AT DSL and it was OK 15 years ago. Eventually we went with Comcast/Xfinity cable, and have had virtually non-stop service for at least 10 - 12 years. They own the cable biz in Chicagoland, and outages are at a fraction of 1%. Most notably occurring only when they have upgraded service (like installing fiber). I currently have 235 Mbps down, and about 20 up for ~$80/mo. We get the bulk of our TV OTA (85 broadcast stations) plus occasional streaming ... but our main cable use is Internet. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 3:52 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS On 10/20/2021 11:21 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. Hi Eric, I see that you're in Santa Clara, so likely have many options for alternate carriers. Street View shows pretty much unobstructed view of the sky which makes you a great candidate for Starlink. W6GJB and I have both signed up for it, and are six months into waiting. Neither of us has cell coverage. Comcast and satellite are my only options, Glen has flaky DSL from AT, and satellite. He's tried two, latency makes them slow and prone to dropouts. He has a good enough view of the sky that Starlink needs; mine is pretty limited by the tall redwoods, but I'm hoping. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
On 10/20/2021 11:21 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Hi Eric, I see that you're in Santa Clara, so likely have many options for alternate carriers. Street View shows pretty much unobstructed view of the sky which makes you a great candidate for Starlink. W6GJB and I have both signed up for it, and are six months into waiting. Neither of us has cell coverage. Comcast and satellite are my only options, Glen has flaky DSL from AT, and satellite. He's tried two, latency makes them slow and prone to dropouts. He has a good enough view of the sky that Starlink needs; mine is pretty limited by the tall redwoods, but I'm hoping. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Unless you have no alternatives, find another ISP. Comcast is not a great or consumer focused company. If you have a lot of time and energy, you can fight this and may win. If you dont have Verizon or an alternative wireline company in your area, look into Starlink, still in Beta but I am hearing great reviews from those who have it. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 17:47 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Elecraft Digest, Vol 210, Issue 13 Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to elecraft@mailman.qth.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net You can reach the person managing the list at elecraft-ow...@mailman.qth.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Gary K9GS) 2. Suggestion re dealing with Xfinity and similar (Steve Stutman) 3. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Michael Walker) 4. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (AB2E Darrell) 5. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Wayne Burdick) 6. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Kris Mraz) 7. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Fred) 8. Re: Suggestion re dealing with Xfinity and similar (Phil Kane) 9. HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (John Harper) 10. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Al Lorona) 11. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Julia Tuttle) 12. External keying auto detect on KX3? (Paul Huff) 13. Re: External keying auto detect on KX3? (Julia Tuttle) 14. Through-hole Replacement for K3 Q5 (2N7002) (Pete Smith N4ZR) 15. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Buck K4IA) 16. Re: External keying auto detect on KX3? (Julia Tuttle) 17. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Hank) 18. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Drew AF2Z) 19. Re: HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS (Julia Tuttle) 20. Re: Suggestion re dealing with Xfinity and similar (Gwen Patton) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 20:02:21 -0400 From: Gary K9GS To: eric norris , Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I would also suggest posting this on the RFI reflector.73,Gary K9GS Original message From: Gary K9GS Date: 10/20/21 7:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: eric norris , Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Hi Eric,Xfinity is a closed system.? If your amateur radio operations are causing problems it is their problem to fix.That said, a non ham friend back in WI has been having recurring outages on his Spectrum system.? Technicians have been out to his house several times and they acknowledge that there is a problem in his subdivision.? Spectrum has documentation of the outages.The last visit by Spectrum the technician said that the problem was probably caused by a ham in the neighborhood.? ?As far as I know there are no hams near him.? The problem is that Spectrum doesn?t want to spend the time or the resources to fix the problem. It's just easier to blame the neighborhood ham.I explained this to my friend and he recently was told that Spectrum was going to replace the trunk lines and distribution amps in the subdivision.? No committment on a date yet.73,Gary K9GS Original message From: eric norris via Elecraft Date: 10/20/21? 2:22 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] HELP!? XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Dear Gang:Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages.? Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house.? They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problemThe last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest.? I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back.Any Ideas?? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer
[Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Questions: 1. is this coax? 2. do you use a cable modem? I found on 160 m my cable modem kept resetting… discovered the upstream side uses HF and above 30 Mhz!!! Fix? Grounded the cable to my system ground (the existing cable ground was a joke) …put some ferrites on the cable near the modem. as a precaution put the modem in a copper screened box for testing… Reset cured - … with proper grounding and ferrites…. You are Federally regulated, and so is the Cable company… so any issues are likely their plant or the gear attached to their plant…..(ie cable modems with improper bypassing or disconnecte drop lines etc... The towers stay, send that reigstered letter and CC ARRL…. 73 Dana Ve3DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
A T-mobile hotspot is probably easiest. With 5G, I have measured speeds up to 700 megabits and typically around 300 megabits with the occasional dip to 100 megabits. $50 per month. > On October 21, 2021 12:27 PM Julia Tuttle wrote: > > > My girlfriend has a setup like this in rural NH. Cricket Wireless will sell > you a whopping 100 GB data on AT's network for just $55 a month. We get > about 15 Mbps down and 5 Mbps up with 50ms latency (to speedtest.net's > servers), although of course that will vary based on AT's local network. > > She's got a fancy industrial/weatherproof modem; I can find out the model > if you're interested. > > 73, > > Julie > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 12:09 Alan Bloom wrote: > > > > > On 10/21/2021 9:43 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > > Dump Comcast at the soonest opportunity. > > > > There may be more options than you realize that avoid having to deal > > with the cable company and have no potential for interference to/from > > the amateur station. > > > > I recently bought a house here (near St. George Utah). There is no > > cable in my neighborhood so at first it appeared that the only option > > was DSL (via the telephone line) at 3 Mbps for $50/month. > > > > But a quick Internet search found three local companies that offer > > "Fixed Wireless" Internet service. This is where they beam the Internet > > to you via microwave from stations on nearby mountains. Costs range from > > $40 to $200/month for 25 to 300 Mbps. > > > > I had a similar setup back at my house in California that had no DSL or > > cable available in the neighborhood. Once I got the antenna properly > > located it worked reliably and of course there was no QRM to/from the > > HF/2 meter ham gear. > > > > Alan N1AL > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@w2xj.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 10/21/2021 6:35 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off or if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a problem by threatening you? One more comment - be aware that the "technicians" that you see driving around in those white "Xfinity" trucks are not Comcast employees - they are "job shop" contractors who have no authority to speak for the company on policy matters. Did they really shut your service off? Read your contract - you my have arbitration rights before a shut-off. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
My girlfriend has a setup like this in rural NH. Cricket Wireless will sell you a whopping 100 GB data on AT's network for just $55 a month. We get about 15 Mbps down and 5 Mbps up with 50ms latency (to speedtest.net's servers), although of course that will vary based on AT's local network. She's got a fancy industrial/weatherproof modem; I can find out the model if you're interested. 73, Julie On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 12:09 Alan Bloom wrote: > > On 10/21/2021 9:43 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > Dump Comcast at the soonest opportunity. > > There may be more options than you realize that avoid having to deal > with the cable company and have no potential for interference to/from > the amateur station. > > I recently bought a house here (near St. George Utah). There is no > cable in my neighborhood so at first it appeared that the only option > was DSL (via the telephone line) at 3 Mbps for $50/month. > > But a quick Internet search found three local companies that offer > "Fixed Wireless" Internet service. This is where they beam the Internet > to you via microwave from stations on nearby mountains. Costs range from > $40 to $200/month for 25 to 300 Mbps. > > I had a similar setup back at my house in California that had no DSL or > cable available in the neighborhood. Once I got the antenna properly > located it worked reliably and of course there was no QRM to/from the > HF/2 meter ham gear. > > Alan N1AL > > ______ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net ______ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
On 10/21/2021 9:43 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: Dump Comcast at the soonest opportunity. There may be more options than you realize that avoid having to deal with the cable company and have no potential for interference to/from the amateur station. I recently bought a house here (near St. George Utah). There is no cable in my neighborhood so at first it appeared that the only option was DSL (via the telephone line) at 3 Mbps for $50/month. But a quick Internet search found three local companies that offer "Fixed Wireless" Internet service. This is where they beam the Internet to you via microwave from stations on nearby mountains. Costs range from $40 to $200/month for 25 to 300 Mbps. I had a similar setup back at my house in California that had no DSL or cable available in the neighborhood. Once I got the antenna properly located it worked reliably and of course there was no QRM to/from the HF/2 meter ham gear. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yeah...normally it takes a 4-hour series of phone calls, half of them involving screaming invective, closing a bank account, and getting a credit card replaced just to get RID of a Comcast/Xfinity account. I know, I had to do it when we switched to Verizon FIOS the day it became available at our location. If you have any other option besides them, do yourself the favor of signing up with that other option. Xfinity is horrible, and even though I had to threaten lawsuits in perpetuity to get shut of them, they still send us junk mail over a decade later. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 8:42 PM AB2E Darrell wrote: > Eric, > I'm skeptical. Did you receive anything in writing or see a letter from > Comcast stating this? > It sounds more like the Comcast tech taking it on himself to say you are > being banned. > I would call their customer service and check the status of your account, > get something in writing if it's true, then contact your state authority > that regulates telecoms, and file a complaint. > I've never heard of anyone being banned as a customer by Comcast. > > 73 Darrell AB2E > > > > > > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > on behalf of Kevin Cozens > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:54 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS > > On 2021-10-20 2:21 p.m., eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > > radio activities had caused wide area outages.[snip] > > They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem > > Anyone telling you the mere presence of an antenna is the source of problem > is someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. > > Ask them for a list of the dates, times, and durations of some of the area > wide outages and compare that information against your log book to see if > there is any correlation. > > It is very likely there are other hams in your area. It could be someone > else causing the problem who may not be an Xfinity customer. If any ham > radio, or other radio transmissions, are causing their systems problems it > shows they haven't properly protected their equipment from stray RF and/or > they have a problem with an installation somewhere. > > -- > Cheers! > > Kevin. > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ve3syb.ca%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=LhjHVryGysUK1XutF8Ynefs%2FrwdT%2BujaaTVS9FZfXEU%3Dreserved=0 > | "Nerds make the shiny things that > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2FKevinCozensdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=fFFEXeT7qtTslY2GWJIx%2BqISwtbcZ4M11ZdKa5C91R8%3Dreserved=0 > | distract the mouth-breathers, and > | that's why we're powerful" > Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | > #include | --Chris Hardwick > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=E4g2uPPjCq0ovG6Hiqz3AIaGE9foAY1d7gh5qQVrXPU%3Dreserved=0 > Help: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=RZt270ZCeoo0qhukaF63ITKBuV2276aX1kwCSfR0FKc%3Dreserved=0 > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ipHr5u5O5e2HPCGz6xIJWfQGqbcJDstPKA8QhOl%2Bzq0%3Dreserved=0 > Please help support this emai
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Yeah, but they may only be satisfied if all the antennas are gone, and that's not practical. On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 11:44 Drew AF2Z wrote: > I would take the easiest way: tell them whatever BS they need to hear to > be satisfied; then operate however you like without restriction. Dump > Comcast at the soonest opportunity. > > I would not waste my time with lawyers, letters, phone calls, > explanations, etc. As Mark Twain said: Never argue with an idiot; they > will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. This is > similar to dealing with corporate bureaucracy. > > 73, > Drew > AF2Z > > > > On 10/21/21 10:31, Hank via Elecraft wrote: > > Good advice - don’t be unprofessional just because a rogue technician is. > > > > Hank > > K4HYJ > > > >> On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Julia Tuttle > wrote: > >> > >> But remember, you're required to use the lowest power level feasible... > >> > >> ...so time to try for some really challenging DX, and keep your logs! > >> > >> Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off > or > >> if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a > problem by > >> threatening you? > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Julie > >> > >>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 09:27 Al Lorona wrote: > >>> > >>> Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as > >>> possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to > become > >>> a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. > >>> > >>> If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing > outages, > >>> use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's > >>> impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected > me." > >>> > >>> Al W6LX/4 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> and 3) operate at you highest practical power > >>>>>> level as often as possible. > >>> > >>>>>> 73, Jim K9YC > >>> > >>> __ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to h...@optilink.us > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to pu...@af2z.net > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I would take the easiest way: tell them whatever BS they need to hear to be satisfied; then operate however you like without restriction. Dump Comcast at the soonest opportunity. I would not waste my time with lawyers, letters, phone calls, explanations, etc. As Mark Twain said: Never argue with an idiot; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. This is similar to dealing with corporate bureaucracy. 73, Drew AF2Z On 10/21/21 10:31, Hank via Elecraft wrote: Good advice - don’t be unprofessional just because a rogue technician is. Hank K4HYJ On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: But remember, you're required to use the lowest power level feasible... ...so time to try for some really challenging DX, and keep your logs! Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off or if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a problem by threatening you? 73, Julie On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 09:27 Al Lorona wrote: Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to become a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing outages, use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected me." Al W6LX/4 and 3) operate at you highest practical power level as often as possible. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pu...@af2z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Good advice - don’t be unprofessional just because a rogue technician is. Hank K4HYJ > On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: > > But remember, you're required to use the lowest power level feasible... > > ...so time to try for some really challenging DX, and keep your logs! > > Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off or > if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a problem by > threatening you? > > 73, > > Julie > >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 09:27 Al Lorona wrote: >> >> Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as >> possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to become >> a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. >> >> If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing outages, >> use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's >> impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected me." >> >> Al W6LX/4 >> >> >> >>>>> and 3) operate at you highest practical power >>>>> level as often as possible. >> >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
My bet is you have a rogue tech who couldn't find the problem and decided to blame you. He greatly exceeded his authority and as soon as a higher-up hears what happened, this will be reversed. Besides, since we know you aren't the problem, the problem is still there and his "solution" will be proven wrong. Buck, K4IA DXCC Honor Roll 8BDXCC Author EasyWayHamBooks.com On 10/21/2021 9:35 AM, Julia Tuttle wrote: But remember, you're required to use the lowest power level feasible... ...so time to try for some really challenging DX, and keep your logs! Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off or if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a problem by threatening you? 73, Julie On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 09:27 Al Lorona wrote: Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to become a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing outages, use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected me." Al W6LX/4 and 3) operate at you highest practical power level as often as possible. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered toju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered toradiok...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
But remember, you're required to use the lowest power level feasible... ...so time to try for some really challenging DX, and keep your logs! Seriously though, did you find out if they're actually kicking you off or if this was just a grumpy local tech misguidedly trying to fix a problem by threatening you? 73, Julie On Thu, Oct 21, 2021, 09:27 Al Lorona wrote: > Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as > possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to become > a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. > > If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing outages, > use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's > impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected me." > > Al W6LX/4 > > > > >>> and 3) operate at you highest practical power > >>>level as often as possible. > > >>>73, Jim K9YC > > ______ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Jim beat me to it. I was also going to urge you to transmit as much as possible on 20 meters with the highest power you can. The idea is to become a hair ball that Xfinity can't swallow nor can't cough back up. If anybody comes up to you to complain that you're still causing outages, use the same twisted logic that Xfinity used and tell them, "That's impossible. It couldn't be me because Xfinity has already disconnected me." Al W6LX/4 >>> and 3) operate at you highest practical power >>>level as often as possible. >>>73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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"Just our luck - ham radio operators": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alI2TWuL3cs John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Circa 1958: Neighbor and TV Repairman came to my parent's door ... "Your son's ham radio is interfering with my TV. Dad: "Our son has been away at college for 2 years and his radio equipment is packed up in the closet." Long pause ... then TV guy, "Well his wire antenna is still up there and it's between my customer and Mt. Wilson, and it's sucking all the signal out of the air." Dad: "I'll ask him to take it down next time he comes home." That didn't happen 'til maybe another year, I had a full time job at the local TV station at college and didn't get home very often. I did finally take it down, neighbor's TV still didn't work well, and he still blamed me. -- 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Kris Mraz wrote on 10/20/2021 6:23 PM: When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor complained of interference. I went over to his house to watch for TVI while a ham friend was at my house keying the transmitter. Suddenly a window started vibrating causing a buzzing sound. He said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out from another room “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. Never had another complaint after that. Kris N5KM -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
When I put my tower up 25 yrs ago my next door neighbor complained of interference. I went over to his house to watch for TVI while a ham friend was at my house keying the transmitter. Suddenly a window started vibrating causing a buzzing sound. He said “See, SEE!”. Just then his wife calls out from another room “Honey, it’s just the dryer”. Never had another complaint after that. Kris N5KM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Is it true that, at a certain power level (left as an exercise for the reader), one can cauterize pesky coax nodes? Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Eric, I'm skeptical. Did you receive anything in writing or see a letter from Comcast stating this? It sounds more like the Comcast tech taking it on himself to say you are being banned. I would call their customer service and check the status of your account, get something in writing if it's true, then contact your state authority that regulates telecoms, and file a complaint. I've never heard of anyone being banned as a customer by Comcast. 73 Darrell AB2E From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Kevin Cozens Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 3:54 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS On 2021-10-20 2:21 p.m., eric norris via Elecraft wrote: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > radio activities had caused wide area outages.[snip] > They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem Anyone telling you the mere presence of an antenna is the source of problem is someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Ask them for a list of the dates, times, and durations of some of the area wide outages and compare that information against your log book to see if there is any correlation. It is very likely there are other hams in your area. It could be someone else causing the problem who may not be an Xfinity customer. If any ham radio, or other radio transmissions, are causing their systems problems it shows they haven't properly protected their equipment from stray RF and/or they have a problem with an installation somewhere. -- Cheers! Kevin. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ve3syb.ca%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=LhjHVryGysUK1XutF8Ynefs%2FrwdT%2BujaaTVS9FZfXEU%3Dreserved=0 | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2FKevinCozensdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=fFFEXeT7qtTslY2GWJIx%2BqISwtbcZ4M11ZdKa5C91R8%3Dreserved=0 | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Felecraftdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=E4g2uPPjCq0ovG6Hiqz3AIaGE9foAY1d7gh5qQVrXPU%3Dreserved=0 Help: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmailman.qth.net%2Fmmfaq.htmdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=RZt270ZCeoo0qhukaF63ITKBuV2276aX1kwCSfR0FKc%3Dreserved=0 Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=ipHr5u5O5e2HPCGz6xIJWfQGqbcJDstPKA8QhOl%2Bzq0%3Dreserved=0 Please help support this email list: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.qsl.net%2Fdonate.htmldata=04%7C01%7C%7C2886e1f6087041fb239108d994036a25%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637703564651124184%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=31lKzXaECkYXqjTU%2BeBKo%2FcCv3yDgRSyEVfQTi2aCZY%3Dreserved=0 Message delivered to a...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I guess hooking up the KPA500 right to your Xfinity Coax and doing automated FT8 on 20M would not be the best thing to do. :) Sorry, I couldn't resist. And, seriously, if it was me, I would head to the main local office if you can. find the manager or owner and request him to show the data that proves what is going on. Don't be afraid to ask him if he is guessing or does he have empirical evidence. Take some technical help with you if you need it and be professional. I would also say, you have no proof as my internet works fine even when I transmit. Come over and watch for yourself. Also, is the lack of internet affecting your health and safety? Ask them if they wish to take the liability for that. Are there other ways you can go on the offensive? Best of luck, Mike va3mw On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 7:56 PM Gary K9GS wrote: > Hi Eric,Xfinity is a closed system. If your amateur radio operations are > causing problems it is their problem to fix.That said, a non ham friend > back in WI has been having recurring outages on his Spectrum system. > Technicians have been out to his house several times and they acknowledge > that there is a problem in his subdivision. Spectrum has documentation of > the outages.The last visit by Spectrum the technician said that the problem > was probably caused by a ham in the neighborhood. As far as I know there > are no hams near him. The problem is that Spectrum doesn’t want to spend > the time or the resources to fix the problem. It's just easier to blame the > neighborhood ham.I explained this to my friend and he recently was told > that Spectrum was going to replace the trunk lines and distribution amps in > the subdivision. No committment on a date yet.73,Gary K9GS > Original message From: eric norris via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Date: 10/20/21 2:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: > Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] HELP! > XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Dear Gang:Xfinity, our > internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL > that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had > caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include > my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any > power--were the problemThe last time I was threatened, I installed chokes > and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told > they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only > using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical > guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back.Any > Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications > lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd > appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. > Being off the air is unimaginable.Frantic,73, Eric WD6DBM > __Elecraft > mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis > list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k...@gjschwartz.com > ______ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I would also suggest posting this on the RFI reflector.73,Gary K9GS Original message From: Gary K9GS Date: 10/20/21 7:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: eric norris , Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Hi Eric,Xfinity is a closed system. If your amateur radio operations are causing problems it is their problem to fix.That said, a non ham friend back in WI has been having recurring outages on his Spectrum system. Technicians have been out to his house several times and they acknowledge that there is a problem in his subdivision. Spectrum has documentation of the outages.The last visit by Spectrum the technician said that the problem was probably caused by a ham in the neighborhood. As far as I know there are no hams near him. The problem is that Spectrum doesn’t want to spend the time or the resources to fix the problem. It's just easier to blame the neighborhood ham.I explained this to my friend and he recently was told that Spectrum was going to replace the trunk lines and distribution amps in the subdivision. No committment on a date yet.73,Gary K9GS Original message From: eric norris via Elecraft Date: 10/20/21 2:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Dear Gang:Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problemThe last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back.Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable.Frantic,73, Eric WD6DBM __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k...@gjschwartz.com __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k...@gjschwartz.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Hi Eric,Xfinity is a closed system. If your amateur radio operations are causing problems it is their problem to fix.That said, a non ham friend back in WI has been having recurring outages on his Spectrum system. Technicians have been out to his house several times and they acknowledge that there is a problem in his subdivision. Spectrum has documentation of the outages.The last visit by Spectrum the technician said that the problem was probably caused by a ham in the neighborhood. As far as I know there are no hams near him. The problem is that Spectrum doesn’t want to spend the time or the resources to fix the problem. It's just easier to blame the neighborhood ham.I explained this to my friend and he recently was told that Spectrum was going to replace the trunk lines and distribution amps in the subdivision. No committment on a date yet.73,Gary K9GS Original message From: eric norris via Elecraft Date: 10/20/21 2:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Dear Gang:Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problemThe last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back.Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable.Frantic,73, Eric WD6DBM __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to k...@gjschwartz.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
This is rather interesting. Last year my local borough contacted me about my antenna support. It is 30 feet high and is my end support for my EFHW. I was asked when did I install the pipe? I said 15 years ago, why? I was promptly told that the boroughs 1.2 GHz comm link between the pump house and well head three miles up the road, was intermittent. I am in a valley compared to the well head and their link receiver. In that past year the electric company installed two tall towers for distribution lines a couple hundred yards between the well head and my QTH. I was the suspect, non the less. Turned out to be the antenna at the well head. K3bo On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 4:31 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > When I fired up my first transmitter as a novice (a DX-20!), little did I > know it was leaking into a break in the coax cable in the attic. > > I found out two days later when a ham I'd never met copied my callsign off > his TV. He looked me up in the callbook (I was a few blocks from his > place), introduced himself, and helped me find and repair the cable. I > ended up with a clean signal and a great Elmer. > > But this is not the good ol' days, apparently. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > > On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:22 PM, K4HYJ via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > > I had a ham friend who went through a similar situation with Charter - > now Spectrum. He called the state's public service commission to lodge a > complaint against Charter. > > > > Long story short, the public service commission sent a representative > out in the field and they had the ham radio guy transmit while witnessing > the "interference" in the neighborhood. They saw issues but not at the > same time the transmitter was operating. Charter finally found 2 issues: a > failing power supply on a network amp, and some terrible signal leakage on > improperly terminated unused coax drops. > > > > Charter took the easy way out and blamed the ham as a CB operator > operating at illegal power levels. Obviously they had no proof and > ultimately had to fix their own problems. > > > > Xfinity around here is all fiber based. > > > > I'd also call the better business bureau! > > > > Hank > > K4HYJ > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On Behalf Of Rich Lim via Elecraft > > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:35 PM > > To: eric norris ; Frank Krozel < > kg9hfr...@gmail.com> > > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM > ANTENNAS > > > > Wow! Doesn't seem to make sense... so they believe that by shutting down > your home internet that you will stop operating your station which > allegedly is causing the interference? > > > > Or do they believe that by the sheer fact that Xfinity is connected to > your home that your station is causing harmful interference which is being > transmitted directly into your home box? > > > > I'm gonna follow this one closely. > > RichKQ9L > > > > > > ___ > > Think different, Macintosh. > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by > the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > e-mail (or the person responsible for delivering this document to the > intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, printing or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments > thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please respond to the individual sending the message and permanently delete > the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. > > > > > > > >On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 01:25:48 PM CDT, Frank Krozel < > kg9hfr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Cameras? Any ID card from him? > > Intolerable from any company, let alone your provider. > > > > -73- FrankKG9H > > kg9hfr...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Gang: > >> Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > >> explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my > amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide > area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas > themselves--absent any power--wer
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
When I fired up my first transmitter as a novice (a DX-20!), little did I know it was leaking into a break in the coax cable in the attic. I found out two days later when a ham I'd never met copied my callsign off his TV. He looked me up in the callbook (I was a few blocks from his place), introduced himself, and helped me find and repair the cable. I ended up with a clean signal and a great Elmer. But this is not the good ol' days, apparently. Wayne N6KR > On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:22 PM, K4HYJ via Elecraft > wrote: > > I had a ham friend who went through a similar situation with Charter - now > Spectrum. He called the state's public service commission to lodge a > complaint against Charter. > > Long story short, the public service commission sent a representative out in > the field and they had the ham radio guy transmit while witnessing the > "interference" in the neighborhood. They saw issues but not at the same time > the transmitter was operating. Charter finally found 2 issues: a failing > power supply on a network amp, and some terrible signal leakage on improperly > terminated unused coax drops. > > Charter took the easy way out and blamed the ham as a CB operator operating > at illegal power levels. Obviously they had no proof and ultimately had to > fix their own problems. > > Xfinity around here is all fiber based. > > I'd also call the better business bureau! > > Hank > K4HYJ > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Rich Lim via Elecraft > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:35 PM > To: eric norris ; Frank Krozel > Cc: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS > > Wow! Doesn't seem to make sense... so they believe that by shutting down your > home internet that you will stop operating your station which allegedly is > causing the interference? > > Or do they believe that by the sheer fact that Xfinity is connected to your > home that your station is causing harmful interference which is being > transmitted directly into your home box? > > I'm gonna follow this one closely. > RichKQ9L > > > ___ > Think different, Macintosh. > > > > > This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the > addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or > confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this > e-mail (or the person responsible for delivering this document to the > intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution, printing or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments > thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, > please respond to the individual sending the message and permanently delete > the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. > > > >On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 01:25:48 PM CDT, Frank Krozel > wrote: > > Cameras? Any ID card from him? > Intolerable from any company, let alone your provider. > > -73- FrankKG9H > kg9hfr...@gmail.com > > > > >> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft >> wrote: >> >> Dear Gang: >> Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to >> explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur >> radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area >> outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas >> themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was >> threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet >> lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I >> have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked >> to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he >> never called back. >> Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a >> communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific >> time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to >> work. Being off the air is unimaginable. >> Frantic, >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help su
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I had a ham friend who went through a similar situation with Charter - now Spectrum. He called the state's public service commission to lodge a complaint against Charter. Long story short, the public service commission sent a representative out in the field and they had the ham radio guy transmit while witnessing the "interference" in the neighborhood. They saw issues but not at the same time the transmitter was operating. Charter finally found 2 issues: a failing power supply on a network amp, and some terrible signal leakage on improperly terminated unused coax drops. Charter took the easy way out and blamed the ham as a CB operator operating at illegal power levels. Obviously they had no proof and ultimately had to fix their own problems. Xfinity around here is all fiber based. I'd also call the better business bureau! Hank K4HYJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Rich Lim via Elecraft Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 2:35 PM To: eric norris ; Frank Krozel Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Wow! Doesn't seem to make sense... so they believe that by shutting down your home internet that you will stop operating your station which allegedly is causing the interference? Or do they believe that by the sheer fact that Xfinity is connected to your home that your station is causing harmful interference which is being transmitted directly into your home box? I'm gonna follow this one closely. RichKQ9L ___ Think different, Macintosh. This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail (or the person responsible for delivering this document to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please respond to the individual sending the message and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 01:25:48 PM CDT, Frank Krozel wrote: Cameras? Any ID card from him? Intolerable from any company, let alone your provider. -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft > wrote: > > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area > outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas > themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was > threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet > lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have > stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to > speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never > called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a > communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific > time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to > work. Being off the air is unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to richli...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:E
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Sounds like the typical "I'm having trouble with X, and so-and-so has antennas, so it must be those antennas making X fail. They have to get rid of those antennas!" I second that there's no way that the antennas by themselves, with no signal being put through them, can somehow cause problems with a cable internet system. It's also ludicrous that, to fix the problems with, supposedly, antennas causing problems, they turn off the antenna owner's *internet*, even though, according to them, their internet is not the source of the problem. I'd start doing some full power contesting until they come out and explain why turning off your internet was a solution for antennas passively messing with CABLE internet. The only thing that should interfere with CABLE internet is a backhoe. This reminds me of the Florida case where a ham was told to stay off the air because a neighbor 3 doors down had problems with her insulin pump. So once again, "see antennas, blame antennas" is the default. This isn't TVI on VHF channel 2, guys. It doesn't work like that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 73, Gwen, NG3P On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 3:16 PM wrote: > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ard...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Hi Eric, There is a reason that Xfinity is the most hated corporation in America. I had a similar problem with them. What all the other commenters are telling you is true; legally you are in the right. However, good luck on making your legal rights stick. Your only practical solution is to find another provider. 73, Steve AA4AK On 10/20/2021 2:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to aa4a...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Hi Eric, The problem is clearly in their system and/or customer-connected equipment. The most likely causes are 1) badly installed coax connectors; 2) customer-installed tap-offs; 3) Pin-One Problems in Comcast and/or customer-equipment; 4) modems and/or routers with poor RF rejection. I suggest you do three things. 1) Find an alternate internet provider, 2) get ARRL involved, and 3) operate at you highest practical power level as often as possible. 73, Jim K9YC 73On 10/20/2021 11:21 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to j...@audiosystemsgroup.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
On 2021-10-20 2:21 p.m., eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages.[snip] They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem Anyone telling you the mere presence of an antenna is the source of problem is someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Ask them for a list of the dates, times, and durations of some of the area wide outages and compare that information against your log book to see if there is any correlation. It is very likely there are other hams in your area. It could be someone else causing the problem who may not be an Xfinity customer. If any ham radio, or other radio transmissions, are causing their systems problems it shows they haven't properly protected their equipment from stray RF and/or they have a problem with an installation somewhere. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Unbelievable Ignorance run a muck! Be sure to keep us notified on your progress! On a separate note, on People’s Court (TV show), two hams were fighting over a SteppIR that was sold at a flea market- long story but it came down to buyer beware and sold as is rule was the conclusion. Regards, Mark, K1RX > On Oct 20, 2021, at 2:39 PM, David Bunte wrote: > > Eric - > > Xfinity is also my provider. I have never heard of such a thing... and I > had no idea they did anything down at 14 mHz. > > I would call the ARRL directly and ask for suggestions on how to proceed. I > would also call Xfinity customer service and ask for justification. My > guess is that like most of us there is not a suitable competitor from whom > you can get service. > > Best of luck de Dave - K9FN > >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:23 PM eric norris via Elecraft < >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: >> >> Dear Gang: >> Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to >> explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur >> radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area >> outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas >> themselves--absent any power--were the problem >> The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on >> our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their >> carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a >> rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number >> which I called, but he never called back. >> Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a >> communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm >> Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. >> My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is >> unimaginable. >> Frantic, >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM >> >>  >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to mpride...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Maybe you could get another ISP? ATT might serve your neighborhood. Or Sonic. I had Sonic for many years. Their speed sucks, but they are reliable. - Jerry KF6VB On 2021-10-20 11:21, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Or, you sign up with T-Mobile for $50 monthly all in; gear supplied; and once in tell Infinity Foxtrot Oscar. Ed McCann AG6CX Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 20, 2021, at 12:07 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > > > First off, there is no way that your antennas alone can passively trash > Xfinity's internet network. Whoever told you that is an idiot. > > Secondly, you could offer to do some testing with Xfinity in attendance to > verify whether or not your transmissions were causing a problem. I have a > small local wireless ISP that uses my tower to serve about 240 subscribers in > the valley below my QTH, and about a year ago he started to see what looked > to him like random problems with the routers on the tower. I suggested that > we do some checks, and sure enough transmitting at high power on 10m caused > his routers (one in particular) to burp. I hadn't operated much on 10m > previously because of the solar cycle. > > He could stand there next to the tower and monitor the network with his > cellphone. If a small one-man ISP can do that, Xfinity can. He checked his > shielded CAT lines and all seemed to be solidly connected, so I suggested he > was getting common mode interference on the shields and that he could put > some clam shell ferrite cores (I suggested #31) on the lines near each box > and antenna. He bought a bunch of them and that solved the problem. > > In my case, I have it written into our contract that my ham radio has > priority over his gear, and I forced him to get my tower officially permitted > for his commercial use of it, so the burden was on him anyway. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > > >> On 10/20/2021 11:21 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: >> Dear Gang: >> Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain >> to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio >> activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did >> not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any >> power--were the problem >> The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our >> shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their >> carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a >> rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number >> which I called, but he never called back. >> Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications >> lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd >> appreciate any help. >> My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is >> unimaginable. >> Frantic, >> >> 73, Eric WD6DBM > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to edwmcc...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
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Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
First off, there is no way that your antennas alone can passively trash Xfinity's internet network. Whoever told you that is an idiot. Secondly, you could offer to do some testing with Xfinity in attendance to verify whether or not your transmissions were causing a problem. I have a small local wireless ISP that uses my tower to serve about 240 subscribers in the valley below my QTH, and about a year ago he started to see what looked to him like random problems with the routers on the tower. I suggested that we do some checks, and sure enough transmitting at high power on 10m caused his routers (one in particular) to burp. I hadn't operated much on 10m previously because of the solar cycle. He could stand there next to the tower and monitor the network with his cellphone. If a small one-man ISP can do that, Xfinity can. He checked his shielded CAT lines and all seemed to be solidly connected, so I suggested he was getting common mode interference on the shields and that he could put some clam shell ferrite cores (I suggested #31) on the lines near each box and antenna. He bought a bunch of them and that solved the problem. In my case, I have it written into our contract that my ham radio has priority over his gear, and I forced him to get my tower officially permitted for his commercial use of it, so the burden was on him anyway. 73, Dave AB7E On 10/20/2021 11:21 AM, eric norris via Elecraft wrote: Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
We just switched to getting internet through T-Mobile, a cell phone connection. It's a hotspot, but fairly large and more capable than the little dongles. Not blazingly fast, but good, and reasonably priced. Peter W0LLN On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:22 PM eric norris via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area > outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas > themselves--absent any power--were the problem > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on > our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their > carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a > rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number > which I called, but he never called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a > communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm > Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to peter.wol...@gmail.com ______ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
I’d start with the Public Utilities Commission. I had good response from them when dealing with PG I ‘think’ cable companies are under their jurisdiction, but if not they can probably tell you who does deal with them. Ken K6MR From: eric norris via Elecraft<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:23 To: Elecraft Reflector<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@outlook.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised myself that they did anything on the ham bands at all; I would have expected them to stay out of anything that could interfere with us. For instance, I just logged into my Spectrum-provided cable modem and the closest they seem to get to the ham bands around here is 17.8MHz and 24.2MHz on the uplink. And considering where I live, I would have expected my operation to have interfered with someone's internet already if it was going to. (I do 100W *max* into a roof-mounted MFJ magloop, but typically ~50W just to be safe.) -Mooneer K6AQ On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 11:36 AM David Bunte wrote: > Eric - > > Xfinity is also my provider. I have never heard of such a thing... and I > had no idea they did anything down at 14 mHz. > > I would call the ARRL directly and ask for suggestions on how to proceed. I > would also call Xfinity customer service and ask for justification. My > guess is that like most of us there is not a suitable competitor from whom > you can get service. > > Best of luck de Dave - K9FN > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:23 PM eric norris via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > Dear Gang: > > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > > radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area > > outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas > > themselves--absent any power--were the problem > > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on > > our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their > > carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a > > rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number > > which I called, but he never called back. > > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a > > communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm > > Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. > > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > > unimaginable. > > Frantic, > > > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > > > >  > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to moon...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Wow! Doesn't seem to make sense... so they believe that by shutting down your home internet that you will stop operating your station which allegedly is causing the interference? Or do they believe that by the sheer fact that Xfinity is connected to your home that your station is causing harmful interference which is being transmitted directly into your home box? I'm gonna follow this one closely. RichKQ9L ___ Think different, Macintosh. This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail (or the person responsible for delivering this document to the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, printing or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please respond to the individual sending the message and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. On Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 01:25:48 PM CDT, Frank Krozel wrote: Cameras? Any ID card from him? Intolerable from any company, let alone your provider. -73- Frank KG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft > wrote: > > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain > to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio > activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did > not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any > power--were the problem > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our > shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier > frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare > contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I > called, but he never called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications > lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd > appreciate any help. > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to richli...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Eric - Xfinity is also my provider. I have never heard of such a thing... and I had no idea they did anything down at 14 mHz. I would call the ARRL directly and ask for suggestions on how to proceed. I would also call Xfinity customer service and ask for justification. My guess is that like most of us there is not a suitable competitor from whom you can get service. Best of luck de Dave - K9FN On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 2:23 PM eric norris via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to > explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur > radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area > outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas > themselves--absent any power--were the problem > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on > our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their > carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a > rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number > which I called, but he never called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a > communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm > Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com ______ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Give the legal folks at ARRL a call. John WA1EAZ > On Oct 20, 2021, at 2:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft > wrote: > > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain > to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio > activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did > not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any > power--were the problem > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our > shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier > frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare > contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I > called, but he never called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications > lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd > appreciate any help. > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jstengrev...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Cameras? Any ID card from him? Intolerable from any company, let alone your provider. -73- FrankKG9H kg9hfr...@gmail.com > On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft > wrote: > > Dear Gang: > Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain > to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio > activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did > not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any > power--were the problem > The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our > shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier > frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare > contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I > called, but he never called back. > Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications > lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd > appreciate any help. > My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is > unimaginable. > Frantic, > > 73, Eric WD6DBM > >  > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS
Dear Gang: Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio activities had caused wide area outages. Oddly, these wide area outages did not include my own house. They told her the antennas themselves--absent any power--were the problem The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare contest. I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I called, but he never called back. Any Ideas? Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications lawyer? Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd appreciate any help. My XYL depends on an internet connection to work. Being off the air is unimaginable. Frantic, 73, Eric WD6DBM  __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help getting WSJTx audio out thru K3
On 10/15/2021 5:03 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Your audio soundcard should be able to use the high output setting, I almost never disagree with Don's advice, but I will this this time. In general, computers and external audio interfaces should use the radio's LINE Input and Output, which are designed for this signal level. When the LINE input is selected, the knob that works as Mic Gain becomes Line Input Gain. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help getting WSJTx audio out thru K3
Bob, Go to my webpage www.w3fpr.com and read the articular about setting the transmit audio levels. There are up to 3 sound level controls involved, 2 in the computer and one in the K3. If you are using the MIC input, there are 2 levels - high output mics and low output mics. Your audio soundcard should be able to use the high output setting, but if it was reset to the low output mic setting, that could explain your problem. Strive for 4 bars solid on the ALC bargraph with the 5th bar flashing. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/15/2021 3:43 PM, Bob KD7YZ wrote: Hello K3 List Just got my K3 back from Elecraft. Updates past K3s KSYN33A Upgrade installed. Now, I haven't had the K3 for about 3 months. But when I went to use WSJTx, FT8, as well as FLDigi, although the rig keys; goes on correct frequency, no audio drive appears at the rig nor at the Sound Control panel "Level" of the audio codec. I can decode the FT8 alright. And if I redirect the audio output of FLDigi to sys-speakers, I hear the audio, when trhe rig also keys. Where is an internal "Config" setting that got reset during the serious re-vamping of my K3? thanks __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help getting WSJTx audio out thru K3
Hello K3 List Just got my K3 back from Elecraft. Updates past K3s KSYN33A Upgrade installed. Now, I haven't had the K3 for about 3 months. But when I went to use WSJTx, FT8, as well as FLDigi, although the rig keys; goes on correct frequency, no audio drive appears at the rig nor at the Sound Control panel "Level" of the audio codec. I can decode the FT8 alright. And if I redirect the audio output of FLDigi to sys-speakers, I hear the audio, when trhe rig also keys. Where is an internal "Config" setting that got reset during the serious re-vamping of my K3? thanks -- 73, KD7YZ Bob EM88LL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier
Carter: this may be a serial communications problem between the KX3 and KXPA100. Just as a diagnostic step, try turning the amp on with its power slide switch. It should stay on. To avoid needing to use that slide switch all the time, there is a serial command sent periodically from the KX3 to the amp telling it to switch on. That command must be repeatedly received to keep the amp on. If your serial cable is intermittent (not fully seated?) all the KX3 messages may not be arriving at the amp, and the amp turns itself off after a period of silence from the KX3. Another serial cable might also be helpful. Good luck! 73 de Dick, K6KR > On Aug 12, 2021, at 09:45, Carter Craigie wrote: > > My problems all started when I moved my Elecraft KX3, PX3, and the ASTRON > RS-35A PS from the garage upstairs to the second floor. At first I noticed > that my Amp would put out only about 70-80 Watts. Then the output went > lower and lower until the Amp would not turn on. See below. > > Here follows what I know at this stage: > > The AWG 10 power cable from my ASTRON 35A PS to my Elecraft KPA100 amp is > about four feet long. At the terminals on the PS I measure 13.83 v and I > measure exactly the same at the cable’s end’s Anderson PowerPoles. (The > back of the amp accepts only Anderson PowerPoles.) There are two sets of > these PowerPoles, and the manual for the amp suggests using the lower set > for the Amp, and that’s what I have done. The manual recommends plugging in > the KX3 on the upper PowerPoles, and I have done that as well. And the > radio turns on, no matter whether the Amp is working or not. > > To turn on the Amp I have to go to the Menu on the KX3, and rotate the knob > above the Menu button until I see “PA OFF.” Then I turn the main VFO knob > until the OFF changes to “ON.” > > Some Indicator LEDs on the amp turn on: > > ON (indicating the Amp has been turned on) > ANT 1 (indicating Antenna 1, the one I use to go to the antenna) > Mode MAN (indicating manual control—which I wish indicated Auto, for > automatic control) > FAULT (indicating SYS (I presume this stands for System) for which I could > find no helpful explanation in the manual). > > After about 10 seconds the Amp turns off! > > I need the Amp to turn on so that I can use the KPA100 Utility Program to > do any troubleshooting, but that is not possible, since the Amp will not > remain on for longer than those ten seconds I mentioned above. > > Without the amp I can use my KX3 rig at up to 15W and can use the KP3 > panadapter as well, so all is not lost! The harnessed set of cables > connecting the Amp, the KX3, and the KP3 all go through the Amp, and they > show they are doing their job of connecting the KX3 with the KP3. I just > had a very nice CW QSO with a station in Massachusetts and the reports were > 599 both ways. Joy! > > All of my cables are fairly well dressed, with no desktop clutter. > > I don’t know what to do next. > > Any suggestions or questions, please? > > 73, > > Carter, N3AO > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier
Carter, Check/replug and check again the RJ45 plug on the back of the KXPA100. It must be locked in place. You should hear a light click as it is fully seated in its socket. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/12/2021 12:42 PM, Carter Craigie wrote: My problems all started when I moved my Elecraft KX3, PX3, and the ASTRON RS-35A PS from the garage upstairs to the second floor. At first I noticed that my Amp would put out only about 70-80 Watts. Then the output went lower and lower until the Amp would not turn on. See below. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier
Please keep us informed about what you learn. Ed Tanton N4XY Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Carter Craigie Date: 8/12/21 12:50 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft List Members Subject: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier My problems all started when I moved my Elecraft KX3, PX3, and the ASTRONRS-35A PS from the garage upstairs to the second floor. At first I noticedthat my Amp would put out only about 70-80 Watts. Then the output wentlower and lower until the Amp would not turn on. See below.Here follows what I know at this stage:The AWG 10 power cable from my ASTRON 35A PS to my Elecraft KPA100 amp isabout four feet long. At the terminals on the PS I measure 13.83 v and Imeasure exactly the same at the cable’s end’s Anderson PowerPoles. (Theback of the amp accepts only Anderson PowerPoles.) There are two sets ofthese PowerPoles, and the manual for the amp suggests using the lower setfor the Amp, and that’s what I have done. The manual recommends plugging inthe KX3 on the upper PowerPoles, and I have done that as well. And theradio turns on, no matter whether the Amp is working or not.To turn on the Amp I have to go to the Menu on the KX3, and rotate the knobabove the Menu button until I see “PA OFF.” Then I turn the main VFO knobuntil the OFF changes to “ON.”Some Indicator LEDs on the amp turn on:ON (indicating the Amp has been turned on)ANT 1 (indicating Antenna 1, the one I use to go to the antenna)Mode MAN (indicating manual control—which I wish indicated Auto, forautomatic control)FAULT (indicating SYS (I presume this stands for System) for which I couldfind no helpful explanation in the manual).After about 10 seconds the Amp turns off!I need the Amp to turn on so that I can use the KPA100 Utility Program todo any troubleshooting, but that is not possible, since the Amp will notremain on for longer than those ten seconds I mentioned above.Without the amp I can use my KX3 rig at up to 15W and can use the KP3panadapter as well, so all is not lost! The harnessed set of cablesconnecting the Amp, the KX3, and the KP3 all go through the Amp, and theyshow they are doing their job of connecting the KX3 with the KP3. I justhad a very nice CW QSO with a station in Massachusetts and the reports were599 both ways. Joy!All of my cables are fairly well dressed, with no desktop clutter.I don’t know what to do next.Any suggestions or questions, please?73,Carter, N3AO__Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to n...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier
Have you checked the voltage at the lower set of PowerPoles with the amp turned on? I've seen issues with bad PowerPole connectors in the past. Maybe something happened to them in the move. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Carter Craigie Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 11:43 AM To: Elecraft List Members Subject: [Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier My problems all started when I moved my Elecraft KX3, PX3, and the ASTRON RS-35A PS from the garage upstairs to the second floor. At first I noticed that my Amp would put out only about 70-80 Watts. Then the output went lower and lower until the Amp would not turn on. See below. Here follows what I know at this stage: The AWG 10 power cable from my ASTRON 35A PS to my Elecraft KPA100 amp is about four feet long. At the terminals on the PS I measure 13.83 v and I measure exactly the same at the cable’s end’s Anderson PowerPoles. (The back of the amp accepts only Anderson PowerPoles.) There are two sets of these PowerPoles, and the manual for the amp suggests using the lower set for the Amp, and that’s what I have done. The manual recommends plugging in the KX3 on the upper PowerPoles, and I have done that as well. And the radio turns on, no matter whether the Amp is working or not. To turn on the Amp I have to go to the Menu on the KX3, and rotate the knob above the Menu button until I see “PA OFF.” Then I turn the main VFO knob until the OFF changes to “ON.” Some Indicator LEDs on the amp turn on: ON (indicating the Amp has been turned on) ANT 1 (indicating Antenna 1, the one I use to go to the antenna) Mode MAN (indicating manual control—which I wish indicated Auto, for automatic control) FAULT (indicating SYS (I presume this stands for System) for which I could find no helpful explanation in the manual). After about 10 seconds the Amp turns off! I need the Amp to turn on so that I can use the KPA100 Utility Program to do any troubleshooting, but that is not possible, since the Amp will not remain on for longer than those ten seconds I mentioned above. Without the amp I can use my KX3 rig at up to 15W and can use the KP3 panadapter as well, so all is not lost! The harnessed set of cables connecting the Amp, the KX3, and the KP3 all go through the Amp, and they show they are doing their job of connecting the KX3 with the KP3. I just had a very nice CW QSO with a station in Massachusetts and the reports were 599 both ways. Joy! All of my cables are fairly well dressed, with no desktop clutter. I don’t know what to do next. Any suggestions or questions, please? 73, Carter, N3AO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help Needed for KPA100 Amplifier
My problems all started when I moved my Elecraft KX3, PX3, and the ASTRON RS-35A PS from the garage upstairs to the second floor. At first I noticed that my Amp would put out only about 70-80 Watts. Then the output went lower and lower until the Amp would not turn on. See below. Here follows what I know at this stage: The AWG 10 power cable from my ASTRON 35A PS to my Elecraft KPA100 amp is about four feet long. At the terminals on the PS I measure 13.83 v and I measure exactly the same at the cable’s end’s Anderson PowerPoles. (The back of the amp accepts only Anderson PowerPoles.) There are two sets of these PowerPoles, and the manual for the amp suggests using the lower set for the Amp, and that’s what I have done. The manual recommends plugging in the KX3 on the upper PowerPoles, and I have done that as well. And the radio turns on, no matter whether the Amp is working or not. To turn on the Amp I have to go to the Menu on the KX3, and rotate the knob above the Menu button until I see “PA OFF.” Then I turn the main VFO knob until the OFF changes to “ON.” Some Indicator LEDs on the amp turn on: ON (indicating the Amp has been turned on) ANT 1 (indicating Antenna 1, the one I use to go to the antenna) Mode MAN (indicating manual control—which I wish indicated Auto, for automatic control) FAULT (indicating SYS (I presume this stands for System) for which I could find no helpful explanation in the manual). After about 10 seconds the Amp turns off! I need the Amp to turn on so that I can use the KPA100 Utility Program to do any troubleshooting, but that is not possible, since the Amp will not remain on for longer than those ten seconds I mentioned above. Without the amp I can use my KX3 rig at up to 15W and can use the KP3 panadapter as well, so all is not lost! The harnessed set of cables connecting the Amp, the KX3, and the KP3 all go through the Amp, and they show they are doing their job of connecting the KX3 with the KP3. I just had a very nice CW QSO with a station in Massachusetts and the reports were 599 both ways. Joy! All of my cables are fairly well dressed, with no desktop clutter. I don’t know what to do next. Any suggestions or questions, please? 73, Carter, N3AO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with KIO3b RJ45 to Windows 10
Thanks for the direct-email help I found my Elecraft cable for RJ45 to RS232 the next issue was correct settings in the K3 the with baud rate on the COM1 port all is well now. -- Best regards, Bob KD7YZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help with KIO3b RJ45 to Windows 10
Hello K3, I need some help trying to make Win-10 talk to the K3. The K3 Utility just wont find the K3. I've only got the RJ45 like connector as a while back the KIO3B's USB receptacle just fell off the board. I've tried K3 Config RS232 to 38400 as-well-as USB. any help would be wonderful -- Best regards, Bob KD7YZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help on KX2 Encoder
Hi all, The encoder on the KX2 is turning very roughly. I suspect it got hit and is broken inside. I understand it is a standard part. I am hesitant to take the radio apart without some kind of roadmap. Any help on disassembly to get to the encoder? Thanks, Doug Dr.Doug Millar EdD. K6JEY drzarko...@yahoo.com 562 810 3989 cell/text __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with the KX3 and FT8 and SignaLink
I had the very same set up for a couple years, which was easy and worked fine with FT-8. When I was having trouble with WinLink, another ham suggested a Signalink sound card would help, and he was right. I now use the SignaLink with FT-8, with maybe better results, but it's hard to tell. Anyway, the SignaLink Web site says to change the name of the radio in settings in FT-8 from KX-3 to , but I'm not sure why. All works fine either way, except I lose CAT control, so have to change the frequency on the KX-3 manually when I change bands. Any thoughts? david KC1DNY in the woods of Maine. On 3/6/2021 12:49 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote: I did very little to set up FT modes on my KX3. Got a cheap USB sound card with a line in jack. Use 2 stereo audio cables with 3.5 mm plugs at each end. One from phones jack on KX3 to line in on sound card, Other cable goes from mic connector on KX3 to speaker jack of sound card. Set mode to Data, set submode to Data A. Using WSJT-X there is a rig selection for Elecraft KX3. I set it up for CAT PTT if I remember correctly. Once you have the rig set properly you need to set the levels, I find it is best to set both the WSJT-X level slider about a third of the way up and the output level of the sound card similarly. Then using the Tune button in WSJT-X adjust the MIC/LINEIN pot on the KX3 to get 4 solid bars of ALC with the 5th one just flashing then use Power setting to adjust output level. Adjust output level to your sound card for a reasonable level on the waterfall display. On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:56 PM Alan Geller via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: With FT8 coming on strong as a popular communications and testing tool, it is tempting to dedicate your KX3 to this mode for a slice of time each day. There has been little to no update info for the KX3 with popular sound card interfaces (eg Signalink) as well as suggested settings for the KX3 and WTSJ-x itself. A little info would be very much appreciated from Elecraft or a crafty experienced user. Thanks in advance. alan….K6ADG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with the KX3 and FT8
Using FT8 with the KX3 is pretty simple. I've used it with both the standard USB and USB DATA A mode. Hook it up just like any other digital mode, adjust the volume on the rig and level out on the PC, look at the meter settings in the software and make contacts. Don't make it more complicated than it is - try it, adjust, and have fun. On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 4:55 PM Alan Geller via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > With FT8 coming on strong as a popular communications and testing tool, it > is > tempting to dedicate your KX3 to this mode for a slice of time each day. > There has been little to no > update info for the KX3 with popular sound card interfaces (eg Signalink) > as well as suggested > settings for the KX3 and WTSJ-x itself. A little info would be very much > appreciated from Elecraft or a crafty > experienced user. Thanks in advance. alan….K6ADG > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ae...@worldwidedx.com -- Owner, worldwidedx.com AE6LX, Amateur Radio __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with the KX3 and FT8
I did very little to set up FT modes on my KX3. Got a cheap USB sound card with a line in jack. Use 2 stereo audio cables with 3.5 mm plugs at each end. One from phones jack on KX3 to line in on sound card, Other cable goes from mic connector on KX3 to speaker jack of sound card. Set mode to Data, set submode to Data A. Using WSJT-X there is a rig selection for Elecraft KX3. I set it up for CAT PTT if I remember correctly. Once you have the rig set properly you need to set the levels, I find it is best to set both the WSJT-X level slider about a third of the way up and the output level of the sound card similarly. Then using the Tune button in WSJT-X adjust the MIC/LINEIN pot on the KX3 to get 4 solid bars of ALC with the 5th one just flashing then use Power setting to adjust output level. Adjust output level to your sound card for a reasonable level on the waterfall display. On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 6:56 PM Alan Geller via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > With FT8 coming on strong as a popular communications and testing tool, it > is > tempting to dedicate your KX3 to this mode for a slice of time each day. > There has been little to no > update info for the KX3 with popular sound card interfaces (eg Signalink) > as well as suggested > settings for the KX3 and WTSJ-x itself. A little info would be very much > appreciated from Elecraft or a crafty > experienced user. Thanks in advance. alan….K6ADG > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jimk...@gmail.com -- Jim K0XU j...@rhodesend.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help with the KX3 and FT8
With FT8 coming on strong as a popular communications and testing tool, it is tempting to dedicate your KX3 to this mode for a slice of time each day. There has been little to no update info for the KX3 with popular sound card interfaces (eg Signalink) as well as suggested settings for the KX3 and WTSJ-x itself. A little info would be very much appreciated from Elecraft or a crafty experienced user. Thanks in advance. alan….K6ADG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
Howard, Did you get your KPA1500 PF macros to work? I use these all the time, doing exactly the same thing you want. In the KPA1500 Utility, on the PF Keys tab, fill them in as: PF1:^XI00; PF2:^XI30; PF1 for K3 / K3S and PF2 for Flex. I have Serial Speed XCVR set to 38400 bps and have the USB Cables setup configured for the same speed. Warren, KD4Z On 10/25/2020 12:24 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 15 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 15:13:12 -0400 From: Howard Sherer To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
Howard: The KPA1500 PF1 and PF2 buttons are programmed from the KPA1500 Utility. Choose the Configuration tab, and the PF Keys tab. Enter the macros for PF1 and PF2, then "APPLY" or "OK". The macros might be something this for PF1: ^DTRADIO TYPE K3;^XI0; And this for PF2:^DTFLEX SERIAL;^XI3; The ^DT text shows on the LCD screen when you hold the PF button to remind you what it was intended to do. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:13 To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
To elaborate, the ^PF0 and ^PF1 are not valid commands. If you want to string multiple commands on a button, each command must be followed by a semicolon with no spaces. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:13 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
Use the KPA1500 Utility program. In the PF box for PF1 just put ^XI0; In the PF2 box put ^XI3; No need to put PF1 and PF2 in front. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:13 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help net information submission
I think Keith has nailed it with his suggestions What a super community the Elecraft community is. 73 Al W1NGA Monument, CO > On Aug 25, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > > Hi Eric; > Make sure it is in plain-text. > Make sure you don't have a "signature". > I will look more closely at the reject message I get next time. > Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech, and admin. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to awinger2...@icloud.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help net information submission
Hi Eric; Make sure it is in plain-text. Make sure you don't have a "signature". I will look more closely at the reject message I get next time. Keith WE6R Elecraft K3 Tech, and admin. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help net information submission
Are you creating txt or HTML + txt? Are you doing pdf files? Try submitting a very small file, maybe two lines of log. See if it’s the submittal process or the file itself. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Aug 25, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Eric Lanzl wrote: > > For the last several weeks my submission of the SSB net logs keep being > rejected by the forum as being too large. I have submitted them the same way > as I have before. Can anyone help me understand why I can no longer submit > the logs? Any ideas? > > Eric WB9JNZ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] help net information submission
For the last several weeks my submission of the SSB net logs keep being rejected by the forum as being too large. I have submitted them the same way as I have before. Can anyone help me understand why I can no longer submit the logs? Any ideas? Eric WB9JNZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help needed: DX Patrol SDR and K3
I've been lent a DX Patrol MK4 SDR that I'd like to hook up to my K3. I followed the directions for the installing the DLL... no problem there. I can't get HSDR to work. The documentation, such that it is (in print from the manufacturer and a German YouTube video) is for an older model, talks about using the box as a direct receiver, not as a panadapter hooked up fed by the IF of another radio. I'd like to use it with N1MM's spectrum display and Win4K3Suite, too. Any help getting this combination to work is appreciated! 73, Eric W3DQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help with KPA1500 P/S
Are you talking about removing the cable from the amp? It just pulls out. There is some tension on the contacts so it will require a little force. Just pull straight out. If you are talking about the chassis mounted Power Poles, there are screws on the inside that hold a bracket and wedge which keep them secure to the chassis. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Salvatore Ted K2QMF Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 4:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Help with KPA1500 P/S Hello All, How do you remove the PowerPoll P/S connector from the back of the KPA1500?? Any help much appreciated! I don't want to force them out! Thanks, Sal K2QMF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help with KPA1500 P/S
Hello All, How do you remove the PowerPoll P/S connector from the back of the KPA1500?? Any help much appreciated! I don't want to force them out! Thanks, Sal K2QMF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP!!! Getting “Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender”
At first quick glance I’d say 162.253.133.85 appears to be a server registered to nabble.com that appears to be forwarding email wrongfully claiming to be from Earthlink and thus the mx.spamexperts.com server is rightfully rejecting it. Someone, possibly this list’s owner, might consider reaching out to the appropriate technical support. 73, David — N5DCH > On May 15, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Lou Laderman wrote: > > I can send emails to the list via qth.net direct, but I get an error when I > post here. Never had this issue before, and I don’t know what to do. I’ve > been a subscriber, and have posted on here, for many years. > > “The mail system > : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.111.198.185] said: 550 > 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see > the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip > 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) “ > > Maybe someone with technical knowledge can interpret what’s going on and > assist, this is way over my head > > Lou, W0FK > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Mail Delivery System > Date: May 15, 2020 at 6:57:21 PM CDT > To: llader...@earthlink.net > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > This is the mail system at host n2.nabble.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.89.254.156] said: 550 > 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see > the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip > 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) > > > ______ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to david.n5...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] HELP!!! Getting “Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender”
Well, your post made it to the list. I am also on Earthlink and have had no problems. Are you sending to elecraft@mailman.qth.net? 73, Don W3FPR On 5/15/2020 8:04 PM, Lou Laderman wrote: I can send emails to the list via qth.net direct, but I get an error when I post here. Never had this issue before, and I don’t know what to do. I’ve been a subscriber, and have posted on here, for many years. “The mail system : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.111.198.185] said: 550 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) “ Maybe someone with technical knowledge can interpret what’s going on and assist, this is way over my head Lou, W0FK Begin forwarded message: From: Mail Delivery System Date: May 15, 2020 at 6:57:21 PM CDT To: llader...@earthlink.net Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the mail system at host n2.nabble.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.89.254.156] said: 550 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] HELP!!! Getting “Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender”
I can send emails to the list via qth.net direct, but I get an error when I post here. Never had this issue before, and I don’t know what to do. I’ve been a subscriber, and have posted on here, for many years. “The mail system : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.111.198.185] said: 550 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) “ Maybe someone with technical knowledge can interpret what’s going on and assist, this is way over my head Lou, W0FK Begin forwarded message: From: Mail Delivery System Date: May 15, 2020 at 6:57:21 PM CDT To: llader...@earthlink.net Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the mail system at host n2.nabble.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system : host mx.spamexperts.com[38.89.254.156] said: 550 162.253.133.85 is not allowed to send mail from earthlink.net. Please see the SPF record, with scope mfrom, identity llader...@earthlink.net, and ip 162.253.133.85 (in reply to end of DATA command) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help please - Introduction of ham radio to kids
If this posting is not allowed please feel free to delete it. Our local club has been asked to present an introduction to ham radio for a couple of local youth organizations. We are planning a number of hands on activities and need help with people talking back to the kids. It would be great if you can get some kids or grand-kids Date: Saturday March 7, @ 12:30 - 13:30+ easternFreq: 14.270 Thank you Ken WB8PKK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help on wiring up a XV144 to a KX3 (or KX2)
Paul, What I said refers to the KX3 only. For the KX2, there is only a single TRRS jack instead of the KX3 ACC2 jack which is TRS. So the wiring for the KX2 is different than what I specified. 73, Don W3FPR - Paul, Your wiring from the KX3 ACC2 jack to the XV144 DE-9 connector is not correct. The ACC2 shield should wire to XV Control pin 1 - this is ground for the XV144. The ACC2 ring should wire to XV Control pin 9 - This is the KEYIN to the XV144. The ACC2 tip should wire to XV Control pin 6 - This is the AUXBUS signal to the XV144. The KX3 ACC2 IO menu parameter must be set to TRN CTRL. I have some questions about the level of this signal - the KX3 outputs a 3 volt logic level and the XV144 is expecting a 5 volt logic level. You can try it direct (I have never tried it). If things do not work properly, you will have to insert a bi-directional level conversion in the path. Actually the XV144 will work fine without the AUXBUS connection, but you do need the KEYIN signal. Configure the XV144 for a non-Elecraft transceiver and with the KEYIN connection, all will work fine. Set all the DIP switches to OFF - those switches only respond to the Power On the XV from the transverter. That signal is only available from the K2 and K2, it is not available from the KX3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/8/2019 9:08 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote: I would like to connect these two and am following the guidance in Fred Cady’s KX Line manual page 239 and details in the XV Owners Manual. Wiring/connectivity is; - KX3/KX2 RF out (28 MHz via BNC) connected to XV144 Tx In/IF1 port (single port for RX/TX). - KX3 ACC2 connected to XV144 CONTROL DB9 port KX3 transverter 6 is configured XV144 configured to be transverter 6 via instructions on page 5 of XV Owners Manual (i.e as if the XV is connected to a K3 using the wiring outlined above. Can someone confirm that this is the wiring I should; - KX3 ACC2 TIP wired to pin 3 of XV CONTROL - KX3 ACC2 SHIELD wired to pin 5 of XV CONTROL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Help on wiring up a XV144 to a KX3 (or KX2)
Paul, Your wiring from the KX3 ACC2 jack to the XV144 DE-9 connector is not correct. The ACC2 shield should wire to XV Control pin 1 - this is ground for the XV144. The ACC2 ring should wire to XV Control pin 9 - This is the KEYIN to the XV144. The ACC2 tip should wire to XV Control pin 6 - This is the AUXBUS signal to the XV144. The KX3 ACC2 IO menu parameter must be set to TRN CTRL. I have some questions about the level of this signal - the KX3 outputs a 3 volt logic level and the XV144 is expecting a 5 volt logic level. You can try it direct (I have never tried it). If things do not work properly, you will have to insert a bi-directional level conversion in the path. Actually the XV144 will work fine without the AUXBUS connection, but you do need the KEYIN signal. Configure the XV144 for a non-Elecraft transceiver and with the KEYIN connection, all will work fine. Set all the DIP switches to OFF - those switches only respond to the Power On the XV from the transverter. That signal is only available from the K2 and K2, it is not available from the KX3. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/8/2019 9:08 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft wrote: I would like to connect these two and am following the guidance in Fred Cady’s KX Line manual page 239 and details in the XV Owners Manual. Wiring/connectivity is; - KX3/KX2 RF out (28 MHz via BNC) connected to XV144 Tx In/IF1 port (single port for RX/TX). - KX3 ACC2 connected to XV144 CONTROL DB9 port KX3 transverter 6 is configured XV144 configured to be transverter 6 via instructions on page 5 of XV Owners Manual (i.e as if the XV is connected to a K3 using the wiring outlined above. Can someone confirm that this is the wiring I should; - KX3 ACC2 TIP wired to pin 3 of XV CONTROL - KX3 ACC2 SHIELD wired to pin 5 of XV CONTROL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Help on wiring up a XV144 to a KX3 (or KX2)
I would like to connect these two and am following the guidance in Fred Cady’s KX Line manual page 239 and details in the XV Owners Manual. Wiring/connectivity is; - KX3/KX2 RF out (28 MHz via BNC) connected to XV144 Tx In/IF1 port (single port for RX/TX). - KX3 ACC2 connected to XV144 CONTROL DB9 port KX3 transverter 6 is configured XV144 configured to be transverter 6 via instructions on page 5 of XV Owners Manual (i.e as if the XV is connected to a K3 using the wiring outlined above. Can someone confirm that this is the wiring I should; - KX3 ACC2 TIP wired to pin 3 of XV CONTROL - KX3 ACC2 SHIELD wired to pin 5 of XV CONTROL Paul Gacek W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
