Re: [PSES] Postal address on product labelling...

2019-03-21 Thread Scott Xe
Only require mfr/importer name and address apart from trade mark. Do we need EU AR too? Rgds, Scott From: Dan Roman <0d75e04ed751-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Postal address on product l

Re: [PSES] Postal address on product labelling...

2019-03-21 Thread Scott Xe
I believe that is reason why the directives lay down clear obligations of each economic operator. They are not allowed to determine by themselves. Rgds, Scott From: Nyffenegger, Dave Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 10:51 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Postal ad

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-03-04 Thread Scott Xe
Great, thanks, John! Scott From: John Woodgate Sent: Monday, 4 March 2019 09:05 PM To: Scott Xe ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Maybe my explanation was a bit too brief. CENELEC specifies the dow, but the Commission can assert a different date

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-03-04 Thread Scott Xe
Hi John, Thanks for your clarification! A lot of people will take the dow in EN standard as the deadline, especially the standard has not been put in OJEU or conflicts with OJEU. EN standard is EN Norm. What is wrong to take this approach? Is there any official guidance to clarify it? R

Re: [PSES] Rating & WEEE markings on lithium-ion rechargeable battery

2019-02-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Richard, Thanks for your comments! Your second point is good to think it deeper. Who does determine the battery lifetime equal to product lifetime? Product designer? Not all customers agree on it. For example, the lithium-ion battery in mobile phone. Nowadays, many mobile phones do not sug

Re: [PSES] Rating & WEEE markings on lithium-ion rechargeable battery

2019-02-22 Thread Scott Xe
wrote: > Scott -- > > > Don't forget that the Battery Directive requires that you provide > customers with instructions on how to remove the battery at the end of life. > > > Mike Sherman > > Graco Inc. > > On February 20, 2019 at 11:06 AM Scott Xe wrote: >

Re: [PSES] Rating & WEEE markings on lithium-ion rechargeable battery

2019-02-22 Thread Scott Xe
J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2019-02-20 17:06, Scott Xe wrote: > > The end product safety standards EN 60065 & EN 60950-1 consider the > compliance if lithium-ion rechargeable battery meets EN 62133. EN 62133 > asks for some rating

[PSES] Rating & WEEE markings on lithium-ion rechargeable battery

2019-02-20 Thread Scott Xe
The end product safety standards EN 60065 & EN 60950-1 consider the compliance if lithium-ion rechargeable battery meets EN 62133. EN 62133 asks for some rating markings and WEEE and battery Directives also ask for recycle symbols. For individual selling on battery cells and packs, they must comp

Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal addressonEEEproducts

2019-02-07 Thread Scott Xe
purchase contract relationship. Regards, Scott From: John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2019 04:06 PM To: Scott Xe; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal addressonEEEproducts I think the setting up of EU 'pres

Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address onEEEproducts

2019-02-05 Thread Scott Xe
e access to all the manufacturing data for the product. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-05 09:44, Scott Xe wrote: Dear Brian,   Thanks for your useful info!  Must the responsible person be in EU/EEA countries? 

Re: [PSES] UK Gov Using The UKCA Mark

2019-02-05 Thread Scott Xe
I fully agree on the Ken's concern. How can the manufactures change the logos and relevant documents of the goods arrive in the UK post Brexit of 30/03/2019? UK will suffer short of goods in next few months. Does UK plan to cope with it? Regards, Scott On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 01:51, Kapur, Ken

Re: [PSES] [BULK] [PSES] Economical operator name & postal address on EEEproducts

2019-02-05 Thread Scott Xe
implementation of the EU products rules 2016/C 272/01 (unless there is a newer version).  It does a good job explaining the many possible roles and players under the New Legislative Form.  The Other Brian From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2019 3:19 AM To: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] Economical operator name & postal address on EEE products

2019-02-02 Thread Scott Xe
Regarding the name & address on EEE products in EU market, should they be the manufacturers, importers or authorized representatives and which regulation does call for it? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEE

Re: [PSES] EMC harmonised standards: EN 61000-3-3 & EN 61000-3-11

2019-01-28 Thread Scott Xe
er > with its supply voltage and current ratings, people here may be able to > help you with ways to make it comply. > > Best wishes > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2019-01-28 14:50, Scott Xe w

[PSES] EMC harmonised standards: EN 61000-3-3 & EN 61000-3-11

2019-01-28 Thread Scott Xe
We have a portable air conditioner that failed to meet EN 61000-3-3 but met with EN 61000-3-11 with conditional connection. The compliance conclusion is included a statement that "The appliance can be connected only to a supply with system impedance no more than 0.4 ohms. In case necessary, pleas

Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers.

2019-01-16 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Charlie & Ian, May I add some additional comments on the following. Regards, Scott Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2019 09:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers. Ian My understan

Re: [PSES] Brexit requirements for UK manufacturers.

2019-01-16 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ian, Your assumption is correct but may have more than your thought. You can read the following draft for greater detail. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2019/978076368/schedule/25 I have learnt that recently the UK government published draft Regulations of 619 pages in case of no

[PSES] EU representative after Brexit

2019-01-11 Thread Scott Xe
Brexit is coming soon.  If the EU representative is now located in the UK, must it move to a EU member state after Brexit regardless of a deal or not to maintain the continued CE compliance? Thanks and regards, Scott - Thi

Re: [PSES] Red phosphorus flame retartants

2019-01-02 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ted, Many thanks for your sharing the anecdote! I am also aware of a case on mains cord sets. It happened in 2014, 9 years after your case. Two major PC suppliers: Hx and Lenxxx recalled abt 7m mains cord sets globally (details are in CPSC website). It sounds not much lesson learnt. Nation

Re: [PSES] Red phosphorus flame retartants

2019-01-01 Thread Scott Xe
Many thanks for your good materials related long term safety issue. I also found below materials from Japan. It is quite conclusive to the one from Adam. http://www.fujitsu.com/jp/group/fql/services/product-quality/analysis/advantage/red-phosphorus/ Note: You may open this web page from Google

[PSES] Red phosphorus flame retartants

2019-01-01 Thread Scott Xe
Happy New Year in 2019! Although brominated flame retardants used in plastic are commonly replaced by red phosphorus flame retardants due to environmental saving, Red-P may result in possible reliability of overheating/catch fire under high humidity and temperature. It is learnt that lots of b

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-28 Thread Scott Xe
ressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.   From: Scott Xe Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Glow wire tests   I notice in safety test standards that the plastic enclosure is required to pass glow wire test.

Re: [PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-27 Thread Scott Xe
s. > > > > Regards, > > Ted Eckert > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer. > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:40 AM > *To:* Ted Eckert

Re: [PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-27 Thread Scott Xe
hes for the holiday season, > > Rich > > > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 1:04 AM > *To:* ri...@ieee.org > *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Glow wire tests > > > > Dear Rich, > > > > Thanks for interes

Re: [PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-27 Thread Scott Xe
; file:///C:/Users/richn/Downloads/Brandschutztechnische_Pruefverfahren_en-.pdf > > > > http://www.glow-wire-testing.com/60695-2-10/ > > > > > http://mminswall.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/01-Growing-Test-Fire-Hazard-Testing-Eng.pdf > > > > These shoul

Re: [PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-27 Thread Scott Xe
gt; > Microsoft Corporation > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer. > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2018 8:54 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] Glow wire

[PSES] Glow wire tests

2018-11-21 Thread Scott Xe
I notice in safety test standards that the plastic enclosure is required to pass glow wire test. What does this test for? There are commonly two conditions: 550 or 750 degC. What are the differences and what does each represent its capabilities? I am new to this requirement and appreciate your

Re: [PSES] Regulation 2017/1369 Energy Labelling

2018-09-19 Thread Scott Xe
; products which incorporate them* explicitly into scope, and require > manufacturers to post information on public access websites. > > > > Enjoy! > > > > -Lauren Crane > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:04 PM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTS

Re: [PSES] Regulation 2017/1369 Energy Labelling

2018-09-19 Thread Scott Xe
d to follow specific products types of > concern to find out what the likely schedule will be. I am not aware of an > overall schedule for all products. > > > > Ted Eckert > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily

[PSES] Regulation 2017/1369 Energy Labelling

2018-09-18 Thread Scott Xe
In order to support this new energy labelling regulation, the corresponding delegated regulations and ecodesign regulation for each EuP will be published. The first 3 EuPs said to be refrigerating appliances, washing machines and dishwashers. Where can we find the draft regulations and the roa

Re: [PSES] DoC - 3rd party device to be included?

2018-09-06 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Amund, Under your scenario, the AC/DC adapter is just an external power supply of your main unit. Your product is operating on safe level of DC. If you don’t sell the adapter together with the main unit, you may avoid declaring it in your DoC. If you have to sell your product together with

Re: [PSES] CE marking - mixture of responsibilities

2018-09-04 Thread Scott Xe
Hi James, It is quite normal attitude for an oem or odm manufacturer. They have over hundred buyers to keep their business alive and lack of resource to meet all standards of their buyers. In order to meet your requirements, you have to actively educate them for what they have to supply in order

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-11 Thread Scott Xe
, Scott Douglas wrote: > Many years ago a TUV Engineer drummed into my head "the only acceptable > way" to make protective earth bonds was chassis > star > ring lug > star > > nut for ground studs pressed into the chassis. > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 201

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-11 Thread Scott Xe
will cut through the paint and establish a gas-tight connection. There is > no need to remove paint. > > > > Best regards, > > Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 9:54 AM > *To:* ri...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-10 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Rich, Thanks for your advice! 😊 Regarding the flat washer, can it be the flat ring lug of the connecting wire instead? Between the screw head and the metal enclosure, do we need a flat washer? That is to say: screw head -> flat washer -> metal enclosure -> on other side of metal enclosure

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Doug, Very interesting about oxygen free connection for long term reliability! Thanks and regards, Scott On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 01:03, Doug Powell wrote: > I have used IPC guidance in the past and while they have many good things > to say, the primary aim is for reliability. Product safety

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Dave, It is new to me about this requirement. Thanks, Scott On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 01:39, Nyffenegger, Dave wrote: > Also keep in mind the NSF standards generally prohibit the use of external > tooth star washers in food zones in food certified products. > > -Dave > > > > *From:* Doug Powe

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Ted, Thanks for your reference! I downloaded the 1st doc document successfully but failed to reach the 2nd document. Can you do me a favor sending a copy to me. Thanks and regards, Scott On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 03:00, Ted Eckert < 07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote: > These refe

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
It really happens in white goods. They want to streamline the process using toothed star washer. I fully agree your point and will read the reference book later to understand it in greater detail. IPC is generally for normal electronic assembly and did not remember any reference for earthing con

Re: [PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
ch must be double-sided so that it doesn't matter which way up > it is installed. > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2018-08-08 14:21, Scott Xe wrote: > > Notice that it is common to use extern

[PSES] External toothed star washer used in earth connection

2018-08-08 Thread Scott Xe
Notice that it is common to use external toothed star washer to cut through the paint on metal enclosure instead of removing the paint for earthing. The connection effectiveness may be affected with following things - Sharpness of teeth on washer (some toothed washers are single sided instea

Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-17 Thread Scott Xe
ible to avoid > but luckily also occur very rarely. > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2018-07-17 10:58, Scott Xe wrote: > > Hi Pete, > > Thanks for your view! Firstly I dare to say it is n

Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-17 Thread Scott Xe
gt; some of the efforts. > > > > So much philosophizing; good luck in fixing the world. > > > > :>) br, Pete > > > > Peter E Perkins, PE > > Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant > > PO Box 23427

Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-16 Thread Scott Xe
lugs being able to be inserted upside down in some extension sockets. John McAuley From: Scott Xe Sent: 15 July 2018 23:32 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening Thank you for the clarification. On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, 12:47 am Joh

Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-15 Thread Scott Xe
ell as GPSD. > > BS 136X connectors are used outside the UK; the EU is not relevant to > that. > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2018-07-15 17:33, Scott Xe wrote: > > The product is for UK

Re: [PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-15 Thread Scott Xe
design if it meets the standard. According to LVD guidance, this type of product falls into LVD, not GPS.  John, how does this product relate to GPS? Thanks and regards, Scott From: John Woodgate Date: Sunday, 15 July 2018 at 10:53 PM To: Scott Xe , Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety design

[PSES] Safety design of shutter opening

2018-07-15 Thread Scott Xe
> > I received a sample of portable extension sockets with a compliance > certificate of BS 1363-2. It is noted the slim enclosure design allows the > mains plugs to be inserted into the sockets up-side-down by mistake. In > such circumstance, only the earth pin is inserted and the plug opens the

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
> Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 > > > > 503/452-1201 > > > > IEEE Life Fellow > > p.perk...@ieee.org > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 8:58 AM > *To:* Pete Perkins > *Cc:* EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org > > *Subject:* Re

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
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[PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
Gert, Note 55032 has replaced 55022 in EMC HS but not in RED. Suppose 55035 and 55032 are a pair of EMS and EMI for MME. Any particular reason? Regards, Scott On 22 June 2018 at 21:03, Gert Gremmen wrote: > It IS far behind. This step was made just to stop the delay. > > Virtually all stan

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
t; changes coming to the market. > > Independent Expert on CE marking > Harmonised Standards (HAS-) Consultant @ European Commission for RED and EMC > EMC Consultant > Electrical Safety Consultant > > > > > On 22-6-2018 12:54, Scott Xe wrote: > > Hi Charlie, I am no

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-22 Thread Scott Xe
ultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: **www.sulisconsultants.com* > <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > >

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-21 Thread Scott Xe
s > > Charlie > > > > > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: **www.sulisconsultants.com* > <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-21 Thread Scott Xe
PO Box 23427 > > Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 > > > > 503/452-1201 > > > > IEEE Life Fellow > > p.perk...@ieee.org > > > > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:25 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > > *Subject:* Re: [PSES]

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-21 Thread Scott Xe
> > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: **www.sulisconsultants.com* > <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.sulisconsultants.com%2f> > > Registered in

Re: [PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-20 Thread Scott Xe
7 or Q1 2018 > > > > Regards > > Charlie > > > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: **www.sulisconsultants.com* > <https://outlook.hslive.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=02be3bf3e3a544d1bdf7b6c99fbd12f5&

[PSES] RED products in EMC compliance part

2018-06-20 Thread Scott Xe
Dear All, We have a DAB radio with BT speaker. It held NB a cert using EN 55032 : 2015, EN 55020 : 2007 + A12 : 2016, …. for EMC part compliance last year. Currently we are reviewing the continual compliance. It is discovered that both EN 55032 and EN 55020 disappears in the latest list of EM

Re: [PSES] Time-limits for transposition into national law

2018-03-25 Thread Scott Xe
require Finnish and Swedish. Best regards, Scott Xe From: John Woodgate Date: Sunday, 25 March 2018 at 1:12 AM To: Scott Xe , Subject: Re: [PSES] Time-limits for transposition into national law This is actually legally problematic. The UK government originally considered that a

[PSES] Time-limits for transposition into national law

2018-03-24 Thread Scott Xe
Directive is not valid yet. What is the basis of the market surveillance to do their routine check on products in the market? For EU regulation, there is no above issue. The EU regulation is the law of all member states, isn’t it? Thanks and regards, Scott Xe

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Scott Xe
safety standards. Regards, Scott From: John Woodgate Date: Monday, 19 February 2018 at 4:22 PM To: Scott Xe , Subject: Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test The test is very old, and pre-dates the high-voltage test by very many years. You mentioned 'Megger' in your other

Re: [PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-19 Thread Scott Xe
Thanks for your sharing experience!  Did you conduct the flash test that normally is over 1,250 Vac by that time?  Probably a megger tester is more portable for onsite testing than flash test as an alternative. Scott From: Date: Monday, 19 February 2018 at 2:50 PM To: 'Sco

[PSES] Insulation resistance test

2018-02-18 Thread Scott Xe
Insulation resistance test is one of most common safety tests nowadays: Flash test, earth continuity test, leakage current test and insulation resistance test.  Can someone share the history of this teat to use DC and 500 V.  The products are working on AC and test voltage is higher than normal

Re: [PSES] UK BS 1363: 2016 Plugs, Sockets and adapters - what has changed? Free Intertek "White Paper"

2018-01-31 Thread Scott Xe
Hi John, It is a very useful document and thanks for your sharing! It gives a good summary and remind the last implementation date of 31 Aug 2019. Thanks and regards, Scott On 30 January 2018 at 20:42, John Allen < 09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> wrote: > Good afternoon. > > > > Just

[PSES] Demo samples at stores

2018-01-18 Thread Scott Xe
protected from the health safety hazard? Thanks and regards, Scott Xe - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All

Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables

2018-01-06 Thread Scott Xe
Scott, LVD is not applicable to the cable due to low operating voltage but RoHS requires to be marked CE as the compliance. Regards, Scott On 5 January 2018 at 08:00, Scott Douglas wrote: > > I am going around with an ODM making a HDMI cable for us. Standard cable > just has our brand logo mo

Re: [PSES] F 155 enamel wire

2018-01-05 Thread Scott Xe
Principal Product Safety & Regulatory Affairs Consultant > > PO Box 23427 > > Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 > > > > 503/452-1201 <(503)%20452-1201> > > > > p.perk...@ieee.org > > > > *From:* Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursda

Re: [PSES] F 155 enamel wire

2018-01-04 Thread Scott Xe
h other. > > > > Ted Eckert > > Microsoft > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer. > > > > *From:* Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 4, 2018 5:26 AM > *To:* E

Re: [PSES] F 155 enamel wire

2018-01-04 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Brian, Will look for the stds for understanding the meaning. It is interesting that an enamel coating is not necessarily considered insulation. If enamel coating is not necessarily considered insulation, the coil inductance, Q factor, energy dissipation, etc. will be affected. How does the c

Re: [PSES] F 155 enamel wire

2018-01-04 Thread Scott Xe
K > > On 2018-01-03 15:33, Scott Xe wrote: > > What are the maximum temperature and permissible operating temperature for > this insulated wire? > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Scott > - > &g

[PSES] F 155 enamel wire

2018-01-03 Thread Scott Xe
What are the maximum temperature and permissible operating temperature for this insulated wire? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post

Re: [PSES] Temp rise measurement

2017-12-21 Thread Scott Xe
ces used to rent, where I used to work, we purchased one used, > but that was 15+ years ago so I don’t recall the price, perhaps $800 -$1000? > > Kevin > ------ > *From:* Scott Xe > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 20, 2017 9:18:45 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTS

Re: [PSES] Temp rise measurement

2017-12-20 Thread Scott Xe
odgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2017-12-19 16:12, Scott Xe wrote: I will be conducting the temp rise measurements on windings of AC motors for electrical appliances such as washing machines, dishwashers, etc. It said the thermal couple method is commonly adopted

[PSES] Temp rise measurement

2017-12-19 Thread Scott Xe
I will be conducting the temp rise measurements on windings of AC motors for electrical appliances such as washing machines, dishwashers, etc. It said the thermal couple method is commonly adopted for safety assessment. I can dismantle the windings and place the couples inside the windings usi

Re: [PSES] Plugs & sockets in bathrooms of EU

2017-11-04 Thread Scott Xe
special plug and socket connection other than normal household plugs and sockets thanks to an isolation transformer! Regards, Scott From: John Woodgate Date: Saturday, 4 November 2017 at 10:10 PM To: Scott Xe , Subject: Re: [PSES] Plugs & sockets in bathrooms of EU See Section 70

[PSES] Plugs & sockets in bathrooms of EU

2017-11-04 Thread Scott Xe
I notice most of electrical appliances such as exhaust fans, watch heaters, hairdryers, etc., in bathroom are equipped with fixed connections rather than plug & socket systems except shaver sockets. In modern families, electric tooth brushes and electric hair shavers for female are becoming pop

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-31 Thread Scott Xe
harmonised standard committees, consultant firms or accredited test laboratories in terms of the knowledge and experience in the special disciplines. Regards, Scott From: Charlie Blackham Date: Tuesday, 31 October 2017 at 3:06 AM To: Scott Xe , "EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG"

Re: [PSES] EN 301 489-1 and RED

2017-10-30 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, Is there any condition for that a manufacturer is free to choose any standards for demonstrating compliance with article 3(1), safety and EMC.  The knowledge and experience of each manufacturer vary markedly.  I am at loss on what basis, how can EU allow the manufacturer to choos

Re: [PSES] BS-1363 UK Plugs - non recognised BSI Kitemark numbers

2017-10-23 Thread Scott Xe
Hi James, Below are my inline comments! Regards, Scott From: "James Pawson (U3C)" Reply-To: "James Pawson (U3C)" Date: Monday, 23 October 2017 at 11:21 PM To: Subject: [PSES] BS-1363 UK Plugs - non recognised BSI Kitemark numbers Hi folks, My understanding is that three p

[PSES] EN 60335-1 for fridges

2017-09-29 Thread Scott Xe
I notice that the cl 30.2 resistance to ignition and spread of fire is not applied to any exposed polyurethane foam insulation.  Is there any particular reasons for the exemption? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message i

Re: [PSES] Labeling - battery operated products

2017-09-08 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Amund, That is a marking requirement for air shipment.  Besides that, your battery must have an UN 38.3 Transport of dangerous goods compliance report issued by specific test houses accepted by airlines. For sea shipment, you have to get another test report for shipping companies.  Th

[PSES] FAQs - Radio Equipment Directive

2017-08-21 Thread Scott Xe
Following the 1st Guide for RED, a doc of FAQs was published in August to help answer some of common questions.  The link below is for your download of the doc.https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/24921/attachments/1/translations/Rgds,Scott - ---

[PSES] Fwd: CE Mark

2017-08-20 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Matthew, As you mentioned domestic plugs are covered under GPSD, how can I find the standard (BS 1363 for UK) under the HS of GPSD? Thanks and regards, Scott Hi Matthew, You are correct the mains plug should comply with the applicable requirements of The Plug & Sockets etc Regulations 1994

[PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-17 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Matthew, You are correct the mains plug should comply with the applicable requirements of The Plug & Sockets etc Regulations 1994 for UK market. However cord set and extension cord do not fall into The Plug & Sockets etc Regulations 1994 but LVD as per the LVD guidelines. It is interesting the

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-16 Thread Scott Xe
t. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Beware averages! They hide or discard data, and may distort it (them?). -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com]

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-16 Thread Scott Xe
d Wales, number 05466247 -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2017 16:40 To: Charlie Blackham ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Mark Hi Charlie, “The product should be CE marked to the RED - a

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
-Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2017 15:51 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CE Mark If a product is restricted (due to restrictions on putting into service in geographical area) to be used in so

Re: [PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
est wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Beware averages! They hide or discard data, and may distort it (them?). -Original Message----- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 Augu

[PSES] CE Mark

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Xe
The CE Mark is a conformity scheme that allows for the free flow of products between countries in the European Economic Area (EEA). If a product has below restriction in RED in some member countries, can the product be affixed a CE Mark? Same as a UK plug fitted, the product should be used in

Re: [PSES] new RED label for restricted transmitters

2017-07-26 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Michael, Thanks for your notification and useful summary! Regards, Scott On 26/7/2017, 3:22 PM, "Michael Loerzer" wrote: Hi, the Commission has published the COMMISSION IMPLEMENTING REGULATION (EU) 2017/1354 of 20 July 2017 specifying how to present the informat

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

2017-07-24 Thread Scott Xe
& Regulatory Affairs Consultant PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 p.perk...@ieee.org -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:25 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subje

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
Dear John, Thanks for your additional view! Actually, IEC amendment 2 of 60335-2-24 consists of not only the incombustible material for back panel. It also has other measures to address the fire risk. In addition, metal back is not a mandatory requirement in both IEC and UL standards althoug

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
ldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142 Facsimile At 10:15 (-) on 17.07.22, Scott Xe wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Appreciate your detail explanation! You are very experience in > this area! Absolutely important, we mu

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
eden, it's on him to ask you what is special about Sweden. Regards, Chuck Seyboldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142 Facsimile At 09:24 (-0000) on 17.07.22, Scott Xe wrote: > Dear Chuck, > > What is e

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
e unhappy. The ramifications of this are highly variable. Lawsuits over this type of subject are common. Regards, Chuck Seyboldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142 Facsimile At 07:49 (-) on 17.07.22, Scott Xe wrote:

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
il: sloz...@ieee.org -Original Message----- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonised standard withdrawn Dear John, It is a good point to note!

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
efer to that part as needed. That way, if the report is amended to reflect a revised design, there is less risk of having inconsistent observations recorded in the report. Regards, Chuck Seyboldt (207) 893-0352 (207) 838-4026 Cellular (800) 893-8142 Fac

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonised standard withdrawn

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
-----Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 July 2017 09:13 To: John Woodgate Subject: Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonised standard withdrawn Hi John, I notice the CB reports that they will conduct the test according to IEC standard and the

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-22 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Chuck, If we have to look after the additional concern in safety compliance, ie. fire risk for this case, should we put the compliance standard under the risk assessment of LVD or the applicable standards under LVD? Regards, Scott On 22/7/2017, 10:31 AM, "Scott Xe" wrote:

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
gh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 July 2017 18:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24] Hi Chuck, Appreciate

Re: [PSES] Harmonised standard withdrawn [60335-2-24]

2017-07-21 Thread Scott Xe
(800) 893-8142 Facsimile At 13:00 (-) on 17.07.21, Scott Xe wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Appreciate your good advice! > > In other directive, such as RED, if harmonised standard is not > available, relevant national or international standard can b

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