Re: [PSES] Which Safety Test Agency Reports are accepted by City of LA Test Lab (please provide text of requirement or code)

Hi Leo, If it you're planing on Field Labeling, the City of LA requires the labels be applied on site and you must contact the electrical inspector and invite him to the inspection. Other cities in CA are moving in that direction as well. Best Regards, John John Allen | President Product

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

TBH, this subject will run and run – until, “some day”, “someone in authority” “some where” will make a “definitive” statement about what is, and is not, “acceptable” for each and every type of equipment, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon! Therefore, unless and until that

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

PPS: the Chinese general to whom I referred was Sun Zu – “google” that if you want to find out more. From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2016 22:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? PS: that the quoted “know thine

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

W.London, UK From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2016 22:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? TBH, this subject will run and run – until, “some day”, “someone in authority” “some where” will make a “definitive” statement

Re: [PSES] Authorised Representative

Hi Charlie, I missed that in Annex II. Thank you!! John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society - 2017 President elect IEEE Product Safety

[PSES] Authorised Representative

ks, John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] Authorised Representative

When we comb through the Directives it always says "manufacturer or authorised representative" John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 From: Ku

Re: [PSES] ITE Kiosk Installed in the Airport Terminals in the US

terminals… How about a NRTL Listed mark? Chuck McDowell Compliance Specialist Meyer Sound Laboratories Inc. Direct: 510-540-4670 From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:17 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] ITE

Re: [PSES] Shorting switch - appropriate markings

John’s suggestion sounds reasonable, but I think you also need the triangular Caution symbol and/or the ISO symbol telling you to “consult the manual”, adjacent to the switch. John E Allen. W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 11 October 2016 08:53 To:

Re: [PSES] Anteroom needed for testing?

Morning Most of the chambers I have seen in the UK do have connected anterooms for radiated emissions/immunity tests to prevent external EM signals affecting test results - and, if nothing else, they can be used to keep prying eyes from seeing tests and test results that they should not, and

Re: [PSES] UL Go?

I’m not surprised that TUV-SUD (and quite a number of other German, and Norwegian, certification organizations in particular) are seen to be very good in this area because they have been working with many of their opposite numbers in other countries in worldwide regs and certification for far

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

Ralph Following on from John W's post, some larger properties will have more than 2 ring-mains, plus a number of dedicated branches/spurs/radials for larger loads such as cookers, fixed water heaters and so on. In additional branches/spurs/radials can be used for areas where the ring approach

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

Oh, you "naughty boy"J. But you are "forgiven" (at least on THIS side of the "Pond"!) - "Britain rules the Wires" (if not the Waves, anymore L)! John E Allen W. London, UK -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 15 December 2016 19:08

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

something about his "precious" being missing when that main breaker tripped. Ted Eckert Microsoft The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer or Sauron. -Original Message----- From: John Allen [ <mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

Ralf That's (almost!) a perculiarly British "invention" (but also found in several ex-UK colonies/heavily-influenced countries) after" WWII to allow a larger number of sockets to be connected to a fuse (then/CB now) than can be accommodated on a branch/spur/radial circuit. This is done by

Re: [PSES] UL Go?

I also agree – but the “smart” thing to do is to “harvest” and collate all the info you can find from the websites of the various testing services, as well as digging into the info on the websites of the various national regulatory bodies in the countries of interest. The free on-line and

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

That said, I would think that very few properties have just a 32A breaker at the in-coming supply entry point (in fact I don't think that the normal 32A breaker has the "prospective current" breaking capacity to be permitted for it to be the main entry protective device). In most there will be

Re: [PSES] Document and Project Management Systems?

Hi Jamison, Never used it but OnRule will be at the 2017 Symposium - http://2017.psessymposium.org/affiliates/exhibitor Here's their website. http://www.onrule.com/ As long as I have everyone's attention and the symposium came up, please don't be upset for a plug to the Symposium.

Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?

That gets back to the "eternal battle"/"conversation" as to where the problem lays. Yes, the cables and peripherals need to be "compliant", but that should not be used as an excuse that the manufacturer's "main product" need not also be compliant - unless, of course, he is selling a complete

Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?

This issue about HDMI cables must raise the question: if ALL commercially-available cables are as bad as has been reported, then should not the AV equipment manufacturers take that into consideration when designing their products, and thus make those meet the emissions & immunity requirements

Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?

Gert Your 3rd paragraph is exactly what I was trying to draw attention to when I commented, yesterday, that HDMI port emissions should be addressed and fixed, and not to try blame everything on the lack of decent "EMC-screened" cables! John E Allen W. London, UK -Original Message-

Re: [PSES] lowest emissions 4k TV?

Personally I rather doubt that as, for many years, manufacturers have had to limit emissions and immunity limits issues for most/all of the OTHER ports on their equipment – so why can’t (and there may well be good reasons!) they can’t do that for the HDMI ports? John Allen W. London. UK

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

Evening A few weeks ago I went to a UK Electrical Safety First (ESF) Seminar, and, IIRC, this subject was covered in a presentation where it was said that the main point of failure was the Primary-to-Secondary insulation – most did not even meet the dielectric strength requirements for Basic

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

John TBH, there are extremely few, (if any?) plug-in PSUs of the type you describe on the UK market that DO have a fuse, and I don't think they are certified to BS1363 anyway as they are not "plugs" in the sense of that standard. A quick search on typical units tends to indicate that many

Re: [PSES] US electrical safety standard for product tested to EN 60204?

Hi Curt, I believe UL1647 and CSA C22.2 No. 68 would be the Standards for USA and Canada. Best Regards, John John Allen | President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department www.productsafetyinc.com<http://www.productsafetyinc.com> 630-238-0188 On Dec 3

Re: [PSES] British question, about a BS1363 plug-in power supply

Scott With great respect to Rich , that’s will tell you an awful lot about the UK building wiring system – provided you have the patience to study it in detail, but I rather doubt it will tell you much about the PSU issue because the IEE Regs (BS 7671 BTW) because it based on the IEC 60364

Re: [PSES] Thermal equilibrium - 10% rule

Minor comment: Having been the Secretary to a number of BSI committees many years ago, I sympathise with Ralph's last para as the Chairmen can be even worse than the other Members - they "know what they know" and it can take an awful lot of "effort" to "persuade" them that they need to "think

Re: [PSES] Underwater Luminaires for CE

Hi everyone, Happy holidays!! We found in EN60598-2-18 (Luminaires for Swimming pools and similar applications) only Class III luminaries are allowed (Clause 18.4.1). It reads Luminaires shall be Class III for protection agains electric shock and shall have external and internal circuits

Re: [PSES] Underwater Luminaires for CE

That's great information, thanks John!! From: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2016 2:56 PM To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Underwater Luminaires for CE It's an example of bad standardi

Re: [PSES] Thermal equilibrium - 10% rule

The subject itself can easily be a presentation at ISPCE. Doug, what you and Gert have done should be a formal paper. Please consider collaborating and making it happen. John From: Pete Perkins <0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: Sunday,

Re: [PSES] EM Severity Levels

Doug I think we do need to know the standard in question, and the edition, as the pass/fail criteria for each of the Levels 1, 2 & 3 can vary from standard to standard. John E Allen W. London, UK From: Douglas Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: 21 December 2016 12:03 To:

Re: [PSES] EM Severity Levels

PS: Does not “your” standard have a list of all the referenced standards to which you need to refer, as that might answer your question? John E Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 21 December 2016 12:25 To: 'Douglas Nix'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] EN60950-1 dates and amendments

About 20 yrs ago, I had exactly the problem that Rich outlines in paras 2 & 3, but in a somewhat different context, when I took on a job in the defence industry which appeared to require 60950 knowledge but then I found out (which the company did not really “get” for quite a few months/years

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

NVG-use qualified. Sounds as if someone dropped the ball levying that requirement in this situation. The system is broken if there is no contractual requirement and the entire thing hangs on one engineer's knowledge and integrity. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _ From: John Allen <john_e_al.

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

dismissed at the time, would prod them to actually looking a little more closely at some issues that have now arisen. ;-) “Hope springs eternal”! John E Allen W. London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 27 December 2016 10:57 To: 'John Allen'; EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

I had similar problems with customers as well, especially when the company I worked for was doing sub-contract Safety Case work for a supplier of armoured tractors for the UK MoD! Neither our customer "wanted to know" when I raised some safety-related "issues" about issues about the

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

!! John E Allen W. London, UK -Original Message- From: Cortland Richmond [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: 27 December 2016 18:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version On 12/27/2016 10:39 AM, John Allen wrote: > in the wide

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

g change order, more money and time for the vendor and everyone is happy... One way or the other it will get done; it's just more efficient to take care of it up front. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _ From: John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

tuation, I have taken a less extreme approach. ..This is where John Allen and I part company. Faced with this level of short-sighted stupidity, I gave up reasoning with them and went into personal protection mode, as detailed above. There was no point at tilting at the windmill any longer.

Re: [PSES] Practical ethics? -- text version

requirement in this situation. The system is broken if there is no contractual requirement and the entire thing hangs on one engineer's knowledge and integrity. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _ From: John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> Reply-To: John Allen <john_e_al...@blueyonder

Re: [PSES] RE_D question Marine Product

The "marine environment" has been mentioned, but the thing that seems to be missing is the definition of what that actually is. You could say that this means the "open sea", miles/kms from "anywhere" - but, whilst it obviously includes that, it almost certainly includes locations close to/very

[PSES] 3D Printed Parts

=317197804=78800898=10907740=CIXq9sqa9NICFVODaQodGcAHvA John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® 630-238-0188 IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society - Acting President IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society - Chicago Chapter Past

Re: [PSES] Voltage Rating vs Voltage Specification

As Dave said, this is “age old problem” that we also faced at HP Bristol in the 1980s when we built peripherals that had to operate across the World – and that meant from 100V 50 & 60Hz in Japan and up to 240V 50Hz for the UK and a few other places, AND +/- to cope with the relevant required

Re: [PSES] EU Requirements question

This question has been raised many times over the years, and the same reference was quoted and the same conclusion was reached - and I can't remember anyone posting that they followed this approach and yet then had issues with the relevant customs departments failing to allow products back into

Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition

"Horses for courses," then! J From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: 31 July 2017 21:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Quasipeak definition Use a voltmeter of the type they used back when they designed that tractor, and you will be just fine.

Re: [PSES] AW: Harmonized standard withdrawn

Ditto. And not just for Scott, but everyone on this listserv should be thankful and appreciative of the free, expert advice provided. Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.com > On Jul 24, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Pete Perkins > <0061f3f32

Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe

John W I think you are probably correct, but I also seem to remember that – many years ago – some parts some parts of Europe used a 127V/230V Star/Wye system. John E Allen W. London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 07 August 2017 20:25 To:

Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe

:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe That’s correct John, and some old houses still have 127/230 (Belgium). My home has now 400/230 Y thus with Neutral. Best regards Kris Carpentier, From: john Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ

Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe

arpent...@technicolor.com] Sent: 07 August 2017 20:52 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe That’s correct John, and some old houses still have 127/230 (Belgium). My home has now 400/230 Y thus with Neutral. Best regards Kris Carpentier, From: john

Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe

mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 230V 3-phase in Europe That’s correct John, and some old houses still have 127/230 (Belgium). My home has now 400/230 Y thus with Neutral. Best regards Kris Carpentier, From: john Allen [ <mailto:09

Re: [PSES] Surge Suppression - Dos, and Don'ts

Brian C I faced the very issue that you raised in your last para below at a company (best not to name!) for which I worked after I "inherited" a situation where unprotected GDTs had been designed in to correct an EMC-specific surge test failure, and further design changes were not really

Re: [PSES] Hosedown test

Could try one of the NRTLs with companies in the UK or your own/nearest country (UL, TUV, Intertek, etc.) to see if they can help. John E Allen W.London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 03 May 2017 12:06 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re:

Re: [PSES] CE Compliance [General Use]

Ted Like your choice in beers (not so sure about Stout – although I’m drinking Guinness ATM, out of “necessity”) but never tasted “Free Wi-Fi”, so what’s that like? J John E Allen W.London, UK From: Ted Eckert

Re: [PSES] Metal back of US fridge - Grenfell Tower Fire

Scott Look on the EU Commission RAPEX site: http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/alerts/ Actually, don’t if you want to sleep tonight! John E Allen W.London, UK From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2017 12:34 To:

Re: [PSES] power strip details

exception of a very few devices certified on both continents) recognized on the "opposite" sides of "The Pond". John Allen W. London, UK From: Don Gies [mailto:ddg...@verizon.net] Sent: 15 September 2017 13:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] power strip det

Re: [PSES] power strip details

ings are: "Maximum Charge: 3680W,16A/250V~" Don Gies <mailto:ddg...@verizon.net> ddg...@verizon.net (732) 207-7828 From: John Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [P

Re: [PSES] power strip details

es and 2 USB outputs. Its ratings are: "Maximum Charge: 3680W,16A/250V~" Don Gies <mailto:ddg...@verizon.net> ddg...@verizon.net (732) 207-7828 From: John Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 4:32 AM To: EMC-PSTC@L

Re: [PSES] power strip details

ary power tap. This was a convoluted method of allowing rack mounted power strips, and it was used only as a stopgap measure until testing to UL 60950-1 became common for rack mounted power distribution. Ted Eckert Microsoft Corporation The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessaril

Re: [PSES] power strip details

such as those listed here http://cpc.farnell.com/search?st=plug%20top%20fuse) I believe that the standard for such UK power strips is probably BS 5733:2010+A1:2014 "General requirements for electrical accessories. Specification" - but don't have a copy and so can't comment in detail on wh

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

AND, as I should have said, obtained up-to-date copies of the certification docs! John E Allen W. London, UK From: Regan Arndt [mailto:reganar...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 September 2017 21:39 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

Datasheets! Mainly marketing “BS”! Never believe them until you have checked in DETAIL with the mfr AND the certification bodies! John E Allen W. London, UK From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: 21 September 2017 21:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES]

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

Rich & Friends I, too in a past life at HP at Bristol, took the same approach of making sure that our processes and productions were well in excess of what past experience had shown that UL/CSA inspectors had looked for – and, albeit with a couple of minor “glitches”, that resulted in a

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

ttp://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England UK is a sovereignty, not a Zollverein-ty From: John Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 9:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re:

Re: [PSES] Safety critical component part #'s and Agency approvals

And, as an example of “sorting” a supplier, we began to get hipot failures on a product and tracked it down to a simple IEC power outlet which was flashing over – the problem was finally tracked down to the supplier of the outlet assembly having changed the flux used for soldering wires to the

[PSES] Separation of Circuits

Hi, I'm struggling with a separation of circuits issue. The Standard I'm using is UL60065. Many other Standards allow wires of different voltages to be in contact with each other as long as they're both rated for the higher voltage. UL60065 doesn't have a separation of circuits section and

Re: [PSES] Separation of Circuits

a situation complies vs coming up with solutions. Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.com<http://www.productsafetyinc.com> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Ted Eckert <ted.eck...@microsoft.com<mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com>>

Re: [PSES] Separation of Circuits

Thanks Charles, I knew I was having a disconnect. Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.com<http://www.productsafetyinc.com> On Sep 13, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Charlie Blackham <char...@sulisconsultants.com<mailto:char...@sulisconsultants

Re: [PSES] God EMC practice

I'm sure some agencies and companies have rules for this aspect, but I'm not sure about "God"! J From: Kim Boll Jensen [mailto:k...@bolls.dk] Sent: 01 September 2017 14:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] God EMC practice Hi One of our customers want to know if there are

Re: [PSES] Routine Test 60950-1, 62368-1

Whilst generally not a mandated production test, a set of touch and ground conductor leakage currents might be a good idea when you have quite a few modules with different PSUs in the same rack/assembly, since you may well then exceed the maximum allowed for a unit with a single power cord with

Re: [PSES] Why higher value for DC in SELV

Hi Rich, Very well stated, as always. Your contributions to our industry will forever be appreciated. Thank you and Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.com<http://www.productsafetyinc.com> On Sep 2, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Richard Nut

[PSES] Russia introduces liability for failure to adopt product recall measures

FYI from the UK Law Firm CMS "Law Now" site: http://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2017/08/russia-introduces-liability-for-fa ilure-to-adopt-product-recall-measures?cc_lang=en

Re: [PSES] Test

FWIW, August is always a very quiet time on this (and many other) forum because (at least in the Northern Hemisphere) many people are on holiday/vacation! J - and we are going on holiday next week J From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Sent: 29 August 2017 22:16 To:

[PSES] Pickle

Hi, We have a pickle of a situation and wondering if anyone knows a simple fix. We have a moving wall that complies with the maximum force limits of UL962. An IC measures the voltage of a resistor and if appropriate, allows the correct current to be sent to a motor that moves the

Re: [PSES] Use of LED Spots in EMC Chambers [General Use]

Could there also be various high frequency sources within the lamps themselves which would are not filtered by the filters external to the chamber (and the lamps may not have properly shielded bodies and/or lenses)? John E Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk]

Re: [PSES] Pickle

Thanks everyone! Either test or re-design is required. I appreciate the input. John From: Doug Powell <doug...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:07 PM To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] Pickle John, UL 991 is a test

Re: [PSES] Pickle

. Thanks again for the input and help, John From: John Allen <jral...@productsafetyinc.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:02 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pickle Thanks everyone! Either test or re-design is required. I appr

Re: [PSES] Pickle

IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pickle Is 'QVGS2' a new CCN? Brian From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:51 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pickle Hi, To pass along the learning that came out of this. A f

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

PS: Now recalled that Russia is part of the "Eurasian Economic Community" (EEC!!), as is Belarus - but we don't need to guess which the dominant partner in "that" EEC is! John E Allen W/London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Se

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

odgy' test houses, too, so it may not be all political. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2017-12-03 22:45, John Allen wrote: Probably due to Putin's desire to promote (by any means - including regulation!) for everything

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

Probably due to Putin's desire to promote (by any means - including regulation!) for everything to be done in Russia, not elsewhere! John E Allen W. London, UK From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 December 2017 22:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES]

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

x 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 <mailto:p.perk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: John Allen [mailto:09cc677f395b-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 6:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia Brian If y

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

UL, AND every other certification body – especially if there is “money” in it L From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 07 December 2017 21:48 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

Richmond [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia If so, it would not be the first time governments have used existing regulations to erect trade barriers. Cortland Richmond 2017 5:45 PM, John Allen

Re: [PSES] EAC Mark in Russia

the first time governments have used existing regulations to erect trade barriers. Cortland Richmond 2017 5:45 PM, John Allen wrote: Probably due to Putin's desire to promote (by any means - including regulation!) for everything to be done in Russia, not elsewhere! John E Allen W. London, UK

Re: [PSES] Li-Fi

Anyone remember those old TV IR remote controls? - absolutely PBA! Hope this "new" technology is a lot better! From: Edward Price [mailto:e...@jwjelp.com] Sent: 11 December 2017 18:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Li-Fi I seem to recall HP was touting some kind

Re: [PSES] Li-Fi

Also being a "Ted", (middle name is Edward, and Ted was how most people referred to my Dad - Obviously also an "Edward"!) but never liked it, Mr Eckert has my "full support" J From: Ted Eckert [mailto:07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 11 December 2017 22:16 To:

Re: [PSES] Regulatory requirements for MOVs placed line-to-ground on AC mains ports?

Having had a look at 62368-1 Ed 2, I think the relevant clause in that is 5.5.7. “SPDs” (“Surge Protective Devices”), 5.5.7.1 “Use of an SPD between the mains and earth” “Where a varistor is used between the mains and earth: – the earth connection shall comply with 5.6.7; and – the

Re: [PSES] Product Safety Testing and Evaluation training.

://www.psessymposium.org/pages/62368-1-open-forum John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® 630-238-0188 www.productsafetyinc.com<http://www.productsafetyinc.com/> <http://www.productsafetyinc.com/> President - IEEE Product Safety

Re: [PSES] TRAC in the UK

TRAC was subsumed into the larger multinational company "ELEMENT" a year or two, and so you might want to widen your question/search. John E Allen W. London, UK From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: 14 May 2018 21:07 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES]

[PSES] Field Evaluation Engineer

Hi, We're looking for a Field Evaluation Engineer for the USA Midwest area. Anyone interested or knows someone, please contact me directly. Best Regards, John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® 630-238-0188 www.productsafetyinc.com

Re: [PSES] Field Evaluation Engineer

To clarify, this role is for a Product Safety Engineer who will do compliance evaluations in the field. Must have a real good working knowledge of the NEC and a good mix of product experience. John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department

Re: [PSES] Customer Requests for Risk Assessments

Having been asked to do an RAR on very "difficult" project (a substantial update to the MoD/Quinetiq rocket projectile testing range control system at Pendine Sands in S. Wales!) some years ago, before I did that I made it very clear to the customer's Project Safety Engineer that - given the very

Re: [PSES] Customer Requests for Risk Assessments

J -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 18 May 2018 19:26 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Customer Requests for Risk Assessments Long ago, when men were men, women were women, and dogs did not wear scarfs (sometime

Re: [PSES] CI Software Flicker/Harmonics

FWIW, Brian could also see if it is possible to run the XP-based system under virtualization s/w (such as VWware - which I use to run a VERY old 16-bit game that can otherwise only be run under W7, or earlier, 32 bit - but I know "without actually knowing" that other virtualization apps could

Re: [PSES] ESD question

This is a close parallel to the scenario where some gets a “shock” from the very small amount of residual stored energy in an appliance filter which has no bleeder resistors and is fitted on the supply side of the Mains ON/OFF switch. It “wakes them up” but does little actual harm – unless,

Re: [PSES] Demo samples at stores

I don’t think the footnote was in the Blue Guide at the time (c2000) but that’s what I decided that we had to do, and to specify to trials teams (ours’ and the customers’), when we put prototype military equipment out for field trials – but sometimes it was difficult to persuade everyone

[PSES] UK BS 1363: 2016 Plugs, Sockets and adapters - what has changed? Free Intertek "White Paper"

Good afternoon. Just received this info email from Intertek in the UK, followed the link and downloaded the White Paper – it should be of interest to anyone who wants to know the changes and additions. Adds quite a number of requirements, such as for socket-outlets with built-in USB

Re: [PSES] CI Software Flicker/Harmonics

Or maybe Digital Research DRDOS? (DRDOS 6 was, for its time, “brilliant” IMHO, and a lot better than the then-current Microsoft equivalent J) From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: 20 December 2017 22:04 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] CI Software

Re: [PSES] Safety Test Templates Question

Having, over the years (!), seen a few TRF’s, I totally agree with the 1st sentence below – absolutely of no use to the “average” engineer in most companies, other than the test labs, because the “correct answers” are in the eyes of the beholders as there are so many possible interpretations

Re: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about

Look for relevant Type B and specific Type C EN standards. John E Allen W.London, UK From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 02 August 2018 13:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE marking of machinery that moves about Colleagues,

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