Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

2016-04-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
for the MD. Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 9:56 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not??? UK's HSE has several guidance documents related to lifting operations an

Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

2016-04-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
UK's HSE has several guidance documents related to lifting operations and lifting equipment regulations that frustratingly do not specifically address pulleys or sheaves. Ref http://www.hse.gov.uk/work-equipment-machinery/loler.htm The site I posted earlier with a ce marked pulley was

Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

2016-04-14 Thread Crane, Lauren
John, I am inclined to agree with you - that a pulley can/should be CE marked as lifting equipment, though I can't quite connect the dots. I do see many adverts for CE marked pulleys using EN 13157 and citing the MD. e.g., http://www.harkenindustrial.com/product/ce-pulleys/ Lauren Crane

Re: [PSES] EC Blue Guide

2016-04-06 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thank you, Nick! Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 3:29 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EC Blue Guide A new edition of the Commission’s Blue Guide has been published:

[PSES] New 'white space' rules for FCC FW: New notification G/TBT/N/USA/1094

2016-03-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
I thought some in this group might be interested in this FCC proposal (notification is from the EU WTO monitor). Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: grow-tbt-mail...@ec.europa.eu [mailto:grow-tbt-mail...@ec.europa.eu] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:31 AM To: Crane

[PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

2016-03-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
Hello all, I am looking for some insight on how to understand the certification status of a UPS that was originally UL Certified but is being resold after having spent some time with another owner. I see in the UL YEDU.GuideInfo for Uninterruptible Power-supply Equipment a paragraph which

Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

2016-03-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks all for the great feedback. You've provided exactly the information and ideas I was looking for. Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post

Re: [PSES] Radiated Emissions testing of Emergency Luminaire with 2.4GHz transceiver

2016-03-18 Thread Crane, Lauren
Note that the EU RTTED is replaced by RED this year in June. DIRECTIVE 2014/53/EU OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 16 April 2014 on the harmonisation of the laws of the Member States relating to the making available on the market of radio equipment and repealing Directive

Re: [PSES] 47 CFR Part 15 Subpart B / ICES-003 applicable/mandatory for an industrial personal computer?

2016-02-18 Thread Crane, Lauren
There is an intriguing aspect of Michaels original question. He states the object is an “industrial personal computer in an industrial plant for measurement purposes.” There seems to be significant ambiguity related to what “test” means in 15.103c… particularly, is it to mean A. test device for

Re: [PSES] Updated ECHA REACH guidance

2016-02-04 Thread Crane, Lauren
, February 04, 2016 11:16 AM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Updated ECHA REACH guidance Hi Lauren, Does the amendment become effective immediately? ECHA just amended the guidance document after a couple of months. Does EU need to amend the regulation later

Re: [PSES] Updated ECHA REACH guidance

2015-12-18 Thread Crane, Lauren
I’ve been tracking this for a year or so now and working with a SEMI industry working group to follow it. The European Court of Justice did issue their final opinion and it does introduce a disruptive understanding of ‘article’. The evolving vocab. Is now ‘simple’ articles vs. ‘complex’

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
All the issues being raised regarding possible variability must be known to the members of various standards committees. Does anyone know that the issues are *not* taken into account when the committees set test levels? If standards are followed, including any instructions regarding EUT

[PSES] Document listing RoHS compliant and non-compliant finishes and materials.

2015-09-03 Thread Crane, Lauren
Hello all, Does anyone know of a good reference document for RoHS compliant materials (e.g. grades of steels and aluminums) and finishes (e.g., gold chromate conversion), or even one stating which common materials and finishes are *not* RoHS compliant? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -

Re: [PSES] 2014/35/EU Requirement for Postal Address

2015-08-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
It's likely fairly easy for an importer to label the product if they just have a good space to put it. The new blue guide paints a slightly different picture of when an item is placed on the market vs. imported. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com]

[PSES] CE DoI and DoC in one document.

2015-08-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
A Declaration of Incorporation is only applicable to the Machinery Directive. All other CE Marking directives applicable to a product must have a Declaration of Conformity. I have seen some all in one documents that are titled as Declarations of Incorporation but have compliance declarations

Re: [PSES] EU Machinery directive scope for in-house use

2015-07-21 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dave, The MD applies to equipment put into service even for own use. The Commission's MD guide contains a lot of explanation about this concept. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21,

Re: [PSES] EU Machinery directive scope for in-house use

2015-07-21 Thread Crane, Lauren
Yes, That's the latest edition I know of. Regards, Lauren -Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:36 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Crane, Lauren Subject: RE: EU Machinery directive scope for in-house use

[PSES] FCC - ISM characterization optional?

2015-06-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
If I have a product that uses ISM frequencies but can pass Part 15 testing criteria, can I simply consider it a Part 15 device? This would, for example, allow me to ignore the unique Part 18 documentation criteria in 18.213 Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -

Re: [PSES] DoC Translations

2015-06-05 Thread Crane, Lauren
I think common sense dictates the word ‘translation’ should translated to the intended reader’s language so they know they are not viewing the original. Regards, Lauren From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 8:51 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:

Re: [PSES] D of C and product safety warnings and caution markings

2015-05-28 Thread Crane, Lauren
Be sure to take a look at the new version of the LVD directive 2014/35/EU effective April 2016. There is significant new content about such administrative issues (formal non-compliance). Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Ron Baugh [mailto:ron...@verifone.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015

Re: [PSES] Integrating radio COSTs into other equipment

2015-05-11 Thread Crane, Lauren
Michael, Do you think this applies to the case for installing a finished product? For example if I make and industrial machine and install a wireless keyboard that is already RTTE certified, have I created a new item (i.e. the machine) that must be assessed for RTTE conformance? I think the

[PSES] Accreditation for standard comprehension?

2015-05-11 Thread Crane, Lauren
Does anyone know of any conformance assessor certification schemes that have provisions requiring the applicant to demonstrate familiarity with the standards to which they will be assessing? I am familiar with a couple lab certification schemes that appear to focus on general business

[PSES] Test report for computers with multiple foreseen hard disk configurations.

2015-04-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
When having a computer system EMC tested, and different hard disk options are expected to be used over time, but the exact details (e.g. part number) of those hard disks is not yet known other than the requirement that they be certified on their own to relevant EMC standards, is there a

[PSES] Using ISM standards is a privilege not a requirement.

2015-04-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
Experts, I am considering industrial machinery that might include as components all manner of devices (fluorescent lights, control computers, monitors, PWM motor drives, various sensors) and what radiated emission limits might be in either the CE or FCC realm. In the case that ISM devices

Re: [PSES] Black Bar under WEEE symbol - still needed or was it eliminated? Thanks

2015-03-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
I was just strolling through this part of WEEE2 (2012/19EU) last week. EN 50419 has the black-bar requirement and says it represents a product which entered the market after 13Aug2005. WEEE2 says Member States shall ensure that producers appropriately mark - preferably in accordance with the

Re: [PSES] Harmonised Standards for EMC Directive 2014/30/EU and Low Voltage Directive 2014/35/EU

2015-03-02 Thread Crane, Lauren
TOB, The EU legislature faces this same problem (many other official documents reference a particular directive by number) and nicely declares e.g. in Article 45 of the EMC Directive “References to the repealed Directive shall be construed as references to this Directive and shall be read in

[PSES] EU's Once an Article Always An Article tide seems to be changing

2015-02-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
Those of you who muck around with REACH candidate list concern might be interested in this On February 12, 2015, the Advocate-General, an advisor to the court, issued an opinion on this issue. article from Hunton and Williams -

Re: [PSES] Where to find National Deviations in English?

2015-02-06 Thread Crane, Lauren
06, 2015 2:35 PM To: Crane, Lauren; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Where to find National Deviations in English? Hi Lauren, I am curious if you have received any other responses. Over the years I have collected the following deviations/definitions for South Korea per KN 22 and KN

[PSES] Where to find National Deviations in English?

2015-02-05 Thread Crane, Lauren
Experts, I would like to know the South Korean national deviations to CISPR 22 and 24. Should I expect to find them in the IEC English publication of those standards, or are they only available in an English translation of the related Korean Norms (e.g., KN 22 and KN 24)? Regards, Lauren

[PSES] Covered essential requirements annex - EN 60825-1:2007

2015-01-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
Experts, EN 60825-1:2007 is currently listed to the LVD as providing presumption of conformity. I was expecting to find, but do not see, an Annex in EN 60825-1:2007 stating which LVD essential requirements it addresses. EN 60825-1:2014 is published but is not yet listed to the LVD. It also

Re: [PSES] CE Declaration of Conformity

2015-01-16 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dave A DoI is only defined for the Machinery Directive, it has no application for other directives (though perhaps your suppliers are not aware of this). I would not pass-on a supplier's paperwork (e.g., DoCs) with your own product, but retain them in your technical file as a partial basis

Re: [PSES] Hi pressure Gas safety regulations

2014-12-12 Thread Crane, Lauren
Hi, Richard, For sure the EU Pressure Equipment Directive. I know Japan and Singpore both have high pressure gas laws but I'm less familiar with their scopes (i.e., equipment design vs. bottles for transportation). Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: W Richard Gartman

Re: [PSES] Seismic requirements- Euro Machinery Directive

2014-11-24 Thread Crane, Lauren
Pete, I do not think seismic stability is in scope of the MD concerns, nonetheless for EU seismic concerns take a look at EN 1998-1: Eurocode 8: Design of structures for earthquake resistance - Part 1: General rules, seismic actions and rules for buildings and consider the requirements for

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Crane, Lauren
Tony, The ‘trick’ is that directives are not “addressed” to manufacturers, or any other economic actor, but rather they are addressed to member states of the EU. Therefore, ‘coming into effect’ means member states have to consider themselves put on notice to do what the directive instructs

[PSES] Difference in meaning of ISM equpment between EU and US

2014-10-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, I am doing a deep dive into ISM equipment requirements for the first time. I *think* I see a difference in interpretation of ISM equipment between the US and EU regulations. US (FCC Part 18) seems to limit the ISM concept to equipment that essentially uses radio frequency to do

Re: [PSES] Made in labelling in the EU

2014-10-03 Thread Crane, Lauren
The manufacturer stated on a nameplate can be entirely different from the formal country of origin (coo). Thus my iphone manufactured by Apple USA probably has a coo (according to US rules) of China. My little experience of coo designation rules is that they can be very tricky. Regards, Lauren

Re: [PSES] Made in labelling in the EU

2014-10-03 Thread Crane, Lauren
The market surveillance regulation (for all kinds of non-consumer products) is split from the consumer product safety regulation You can find a lovely map of legislative progress for the CPSR in the “Legislative Observatory” here

Re: [PSES] Buying Standards

2014-09-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
Estonia might give you an answer. My experience is their help desk responds to questions within 2 days. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Rick Busche [mailto:rick.bus...@qnergy.com] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 8:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

[PSES] Are unlisted EN standards that are undated references immediately effective?

2014-09-08 Thread Crane, Lauren
I recently received notice that a new version of EN IEC 61000-4-5:2014 (based on IEC ed. 3) is released. I see that this standard does not (directly) give presumption of conformance to the EMC directive (i.e., it is 'unlisted'), but a standard that *is* listed (61000-6-2) references it as an

Re: [PSES] Are unlisted EN standards that are undated references immediately effective?

2014-09-08 Thread Crane, Lauren
the standard has physically been made available on or after the 'dav' date, it has not officially been published until the dop date. Regards, Lauren From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:33 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES

[PSES] More Tangled.... RE: [PSES] Are unlisted EN standards that are undated references immediately effective?

2014-09-08 Thread Crane, Lauren
published edition available), it seems I must use that edition immediately!? Yuck. But perhaps no one enforces to this fine point detail? Regards, Lauren From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:58 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] More Tangled.... RE: [PSES] Are unlisted EN standards that are undated references immediately effective?

2014-09-08 Thread Crane, Lauren
, 8 Sep 2014, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: And then cites IEC 61000-4-5 as an undated reference (which indeed has a new ?published? edition available), it seems I must use that edition immediately!? When this, or a similar, issue has been raised in CENELEC in the past, it has

Re: [PSES] IEC 60950-1 A2:2013 clause 1.7.1.3

2014-08-14 Thread Crane, Lauren
It seems to me the only reasonable interpretation is A (All symbols). If that were *not* the correct answer it would imply either 1) the IEC/ISO symbols were perfectly self-explanatory (and I think they are not), or 2) that users of the product would know to go to the specific IEC/ISO

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

2014-07-31 Thread Crane, Lauren
Having tracked development of the proposed Market Surveillance Regulation, and stared for hours at NLF model language now incorporated in LVD... it is frustrating how ambiguous the actionable criteria are for this sort of thing. Authorities may act on Risk, but there is no risk assessment

Re: [PSES] 802.11a (5GHz WiFi) requires CE Alert sign, right?

2014-07-31 Thread Crane, Lauren
The RTTE is replaced, in part by the RED (Radio Equipment Directive – 2014/53/EU) which covers the ‘use of spectrum’ topic and no longer calls for the alert symbol. From RED … “Article 50 Repeal Directive 1999/5/EC is repealed with effect from 13 June 2016. References to the repealed Directive

Re: [PSES] Definition of unsafe product

2014-07-31 Thread Crane, Lauren
Jim, Was this for an EMCD issue, or other? The reason I ask is I think that only the EMCD explicitly presses for keeping up with state of the art in its essential requirements (e.g., LVD and MD do not). Which might mean that an insistence on latest-and-greatest is reasonable for EMC

Re: [PSES] Another Machinery Directive Question

2014-07-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
Carl, Is this item a finished product or a component? The MD guide suggests components are not in scope (though contracts might require conformance as much as practicable to help ensure the final finished product conforms ). “The Machinery Directive does not apply as such to separate machinery

Re: [PSES] EN60204 Safety of machinery - Electrical equipemnt of machines

2014-06-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
CENELEC has a corrigendum that is free through many standards distributors (I got mine from Estonia) Corrigendum to EN 60204-1:2006 English version ___ Annex ZZ (informative) Coverage of Essential Requirements of EC Directives This European Standard has been prepared under a mandate

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
July 2019. Hope that helps Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:53 AM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Lauren, Are you able

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive

2014-05-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks very much, Brian. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Brian Jones [mailto:e...@brianjones.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 3:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive Everyone The Radio Equipment Directive

[PSES] exercising connections for health?

2014-05-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
I am puzzling over a notion that it is prudent to exercise connectors in power circuits every once in while (e.g., disconnect and reconnect them). I suppose the underlying idea is to scrape the touching surfaces and potentially disrupt forming oxides or accumulated pollution. I saw the other

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
One nuance of the RoHS challenge, is its potential impact to the used equipment market. As recent discussions here have shown, it's hard enough to 'prove' conformance for products currently in production. Even more so for used products that will be newly on the EU market (imported). Since it

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
Of course, RoHS applies to all otherwise-in-scope second-hand products made at any time that are newly placed on the EU market (from a per-unit perspective, not a per-model line perspective). It has recently been interpreted (by Commission and other authorities) as prohibiting the resale of

Re: [PSES] EN 60204-1 Degrees of Protection

2014-05-05 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks, Mike. Regards, Lauren From: Mike Sherman - Original Message - [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:27 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 60204-1 Degrees of Protection Jim -- Yes, but surprises do happen. I once had some very

[PSES] Retailer vs. Distributor RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] New EMC Directive

2014-04-25 Thread Crane, Lauren
In the eyes of the new legislative framework (and other legislation groups), retailers are the same as distributors (or at least a retailer is a type of distributor). A specific natural or legal person might be a couple economic operators. It is possible to be both a manufacture and a

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives

2014-04-10 Thread Crane, Lauren
With regard to determining whether the gas is Class 2 or not (as required by the TPED), the UN ADR is essentially equivalent to the relevant annex of the Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Ref http://www.unece.org/trans/danger/publi/adr/adr2013/13contentse.html Regards, Lauren Crane

Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive publication

2014-04-02 Thread Crane, Lauren
Adding to John's comments Responsibilities for economic operators (manufacturer, importer, authorized representative, distributor) are given in fairly fine detail. If the company importing your product into Europe is not closely affiliated with your extra-EU manufacturing site (e.g., if

[PSES] 61010 testing fine points for creepage and clearance.

2014-03-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, I have some questions about 61010 creepage and clearance testing... It looks like much of the testing requirements apply to over voltage category (OVC) II circuits (e.g., 6.7.2 6.7.3). a) How does one demonstrate a circuit is OVC I instead? b) If it is OVC I, are

[PSES] Compases and RoHS

2014-03-21 Thread Crane, Lauren
Hello, Experts, I was just working on an internal RoHS guidance document and was struck by an idea out of the blue that might make a good topic for EMC-PTSC Friday discussion Wouldn't an analog compass be considered in scope of RoHS? It seems to meet the EEE definition as it is dependent

Re: [PSES] Compases and RoHS

2014-03-21 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks, Doug. That's a much more precise description (and exactly what I was thinking of). Regards, Lauren From: Douglas Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:24 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Compases and RoHS Lauren, Great topic

Re: [PSES] Spare parts and EMC directive

2014-03-11 Thread Crane, Lauren
Amund, I think the key to the spare parts issue for the EMC directive is in the definition of apparatus. Flowchart 2 in the guidance document does a good job of helping with classification of items as apparatus or not. The answer depends partially on what *you* mean by spare part, and

[PSES] Meaning of regulating network in 61010-1

2014-01-31 Thread Crane, Lauren
Does anyone have a clear idea as to what regulating network means in 61010-1:2010 section 9.4? The Other Brian asked a similar question in 2009, but did not get an answer (ref https://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/msg60829.html ) Borrowing from his message (and updating to

Re: [PSES] Meaning of regulating network in 61010-1

2014-01-31 Thread Crane, Lauren
, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: Does anyone have a clear idea as to what ?regulating network? means in 61010-1:2010 section 9.4? It's not a defined term, so any static 'network' (circuit) that meets the electrical requirements is acceptable. But something that depends on software

Re: [PSES] New EU Code of Conduct

2014-01-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
See http://iet.jrc.ec.europa.eu/energyefficiency/sites/energyefficiency/files/files/documents/ICT_CoC/code_of_conduct_for_eps_version_5_-_final.pdf Search term was EU external power supplies 2014 Note Tier 1 on page 4 has a date of 1/1/2014. I have no idea what legal weight a Code of Conduct

[PSES] Any 'official' opnions on Laboratiry Equipment Machinery?

2013-12-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, I am now facing a decision that had until now been nicely absent from my work Is a *slightly* mechanical piece of laboratory equipment (a microscope with an automated stage) a machine in scope of the MD? I have reviewed the archived PSTC discussions about fans, and similar

Re: [PSES] Wire lug nomenclature meaning?

2013-12-10 Thread Crane, Lauren
3b7899306eab4de3946ef526fd0c7...@blupr03mb119.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: Does anyone know where these type-designators come from and what they mean Probably from a manufacturer's catalogue. 'What they mean' is surely given

[PSES] Wire lug nomenclature meaning?

2013-12-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
Hello experts, I am dealing with a client specification where they indicate which types crimp on terminal lugs they can and cannot accept in their product. It is a Korean company and they are using the following designations (the description is from an accompanying illustration) R-Type - all

Re: [PSES] CCC Mandatory product list

2013-12-03 Thread Crane, Lauren
IME CCC works/applies by HTS code. The US Dept. of Commerce site on CCC has a list of Chinese HTS codes in scope. See what HTS code your product is shipped as, and check it against the list. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent:

Re: [PSES] Declaration of Conformity

2013-12-02 Thread Crane, Lauren
Perhaps discussion of DoI vs. DoC is getting tangled. A DoI is a concept only available to the MD, and because it is related to a machine that is partly complete, it must include a list of the MD Annex I essential heath and safety requirements that have been applied and fulfilled. The

Re: [PSES] EN 50581 part/range of parts

2013-11-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
, November 19, 2013 10:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC; Crane, Lauren Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 50581 part/range of parts Lauren and others, I have read (I believe carefully) this FAQ. From Q8.14 and Directive Article 7(g) I see that product identification can be batch number. For my understanding it is not unique

Re: [PSES] EN 50581 part/range of parts

2013-11-14 Thread Crane, Lauren
Piotr, Reading the EU Commission's FAQ on RoHS2 might help you http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/pdf/faq.pdf. Components (i.e. things not intended for direct sale to the end user) are not considered to be in scope of RoHS (even though they fit the definition of EEE). It has to do

Re: [PSES] Reach question

2013-11-07 Thread Crane, Lauren
Think of REACH as a broad collection of requirements loosely related by the topic of concern over substance properties. Some, like registration have tonnage thresholds. Others, like notifying recipients of Candidate List substances making up more than 0.1% of an items weight, do not have any

Re: [PSES] Repair Parts

2013-10-25 Thread Crane, Lauren
I think the only correct answer is it depends. Perhaps the best practical answer is You should always be concerned to the extent you learn how a particular regulation treats spare parts Each destination country regulation will treat spare parts differently. Some regulations are silent, some

[PSES] Would in situ testing be considered OATS FAR SAC TEM or other?

2013-10-17 Thread Crane, Lauren
In a previous thread I noted EN 61000-6-4:2007 now had A1:2011 as the cited reference for EMCD presumption of conformity. I was trying to understand if this absolutely meant retesting of products conforming to EN 61000-6-2:2007 was needed. The sage advice I got from the group was 1. The

[PSES] Does conformance to EN 60335-1 + -2-29 sufficiently address possibilitiy of overcharging?

2013-10-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
Experts, I'm getting into some new (for me) territory, looking at a system with a battery charger and a sealed, no maintenance, lead acid battery. The battery charger claims an IUU charging profile and assessment to the subject standards. I have read the standard's abnormal operation section

Re: [PSES] EMC Directive Test Plan

2013-10-08 Thread Crane, Lauren
The description of needing a test plan may be a fair summary of the forth bullet in the declaration requirements. 2. EC declaration of conformity The EC declaration of conformity must contain, at least, the following: - a reference to this Directive, - an identification of the apparatus to which

[PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
For those who have a penchant for developing regulations, or have legal or policy groups you can set on the challenges, the EU is rapidly working on a new market surveillance regulation that will amend all CE marking directives and a bit more. The base Commission proposal as well as the 300+

Re: [PSES] China Lithium battery regulations

2013-09-11 Thread Crane, Lauren
Yes, Richard, this is a fun one! It is related to a so-called “safe-for-transport certificate” (very rough English translation). If an item looks like it could be a DG you need to get a cert saying that it is not. Li batteries are particularly difficult. Only certain recognized labs/companies

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks for the helpful replies so far. I should clarify in this case the regulatory context is Korea – ENs are essentially equivalent to KNs. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: msherma...@comcast.net [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 3:18 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc

[PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

2013-08-30 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, A test lab is suggesting that because EN61000-6-4:2007 will be superseded in 2014, all conforming products must be retested to the new standard, even if no changes have occurred in the product. Is this a fair claim? Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -

Re: [PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives

2013-08-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
It is important to note that when the scope shift happens in WEEE (in 2018, I think), the old RoHS-like categories dies, and new ones are born. Two new categories come on line that are essentially large things and small things. I figure everything will fit in either of those two buckets, if not

Re: [PSES] Databases of WEEE registrations

2013-08-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
A great source for WEEE and batteries MS info. http://www.b2bweee.com/ Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Dan Roman, N.C.E. [mailto:danp...@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:59 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Databases of WEEE registrations Hello list members.

[PSES] Experience with SafeGard CC-3400?

2013-08-02 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, Do any of you have experience using SafeGard CC-3400 - an electrically conductive RoHS compliant chemical conversion coating for aluminum, particularly as a substitute for gold alodining? I am particularly interested in an technical challenges for conversion, chassis supplier

Re: [PSES] More DoC Questions

2013-07-25 Thread Crane, Lauren
Brian, Regarding #1, note that directives (like RoHS2) now end in EU instead of EC. John W. can probably correct this, but I believe there was a change in the founding documents for the European Region (e.g., Treaty of Rome is replaced by Treaty of Lisbon, or some such formality) and it may

Re: [PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?

2013-07-16 Thread Crane, Lauren
thousands of products labeled and warehoused ready to be shipped to the EU when the person quits. Nightmare. The Other Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:39 PM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] Future of marking authorized representative on machines?

2013-07-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
In the Machinery Directive 1. If a manufacturer has designated an Authorized Representative, the AR name must be marked on the machine (ref Annex I, 1.7.3 1st indent). 2. A person must be identified in the Declaration of Conformity who is established in the EU and is

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
I have experience with the question, but no experience getting a good answer. I have had the opinion that test and measurement equipment is different from monitoring and control equipment, but apparently, many companies used the old WEEE+RoHS exclusion from RoHS for monitoring and control

[PSES] Is a Notified Body really needed to assess electrical safety for a 12VDC RTTE device?

2013-06-21 Thread Crane, Lauren
Dear Experts, I am looking for help in understanding how to correctly address LVD concerns within the RTTED. The RTTED has three main concerns (essential requirements), 1. Radio spectrum issues [art. 3.2] 2. Low voltage safety [art. 3.1.a] - LVD 3. Electromagnetic

Re: [PSES] Pointer please.

2013-06-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
Gary AFIK none of the CE marking directives address replacement parts explicitly (with a couple exceptions). Several of the directives have established in their guidance materials that the directives apply only to so-called finished products - which can be loosely defined (sometimes just by

Re: [PSES] new EMC Directive

2013-05-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
Brian Reselling some other company's product in another region is known as gray-marketing. The model of laptop you acquire in the US might not be the one intended by the OEM for sale in Europe. Just because the OEM might be well established, does not mean your company is acting according to

Re: [PSES] new EMC Directive

2013-05-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks for the links, Ted. Some context on the EU legislative process - The document Ted provided the links to is the input proposal from the EU Commission to the Council and the Parliament. As those two houses debate things, amendments to the Commission proposal will be put forward and argued

Re: [PSES] How to determine EU RTTE class.

2013-04-12 Thread Crane, Lauren
class. Hi Lauren Is this over the air 1700 kHz transmission or conducted over wire or AC mains? best regards Tom Cokenias On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Crane, Lauren wrote: I am looking for advice on how to determine the EU RTTE class of a product. The product has a base station and a sensor

Re: [PSES] How to determine EU RTTE class.

2013-04-12 Thread Crane, Lauren
, Lauren -Original Message- From: T.Sato [mailto:vef00...@nifty.ne.jp] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:43 AM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: How to determine EU RTTE class. On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:00:27 +, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote

[PSES] How to determine EU RTTE class.

2013-04-10 Thread Crane, Lauren
I am looking for advice on how to determine the EU RTTE class of a product. The product has a base station and a sensor. The battery powered sensor can be taken out of the base station and used elsewhere to do its sensing thing, and then be brought back to the base station for charging and

Re: [PSES] Denmark will be imposing a tougher mercury requirement

2013-03-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
Scott, Thanks for sharing this. I wonder how their exclusion logic works(rhetorical) If a RoHS exemptions lets you put Hg in, does this, then make you take it back out? If you are excluded from RoHS, even though your product is EEE, is it in scope of this Danish legislation. Regards,

[PSES] New EU product market surveillance regulation (MSR)

2013-03-19 Thread Crane, Lauren
Just got word of a proposed new EU market surveillance regulation amending everything CE (including existing new legislative framework legislation?). https://tsapps.nist.gov/notifyus/docs/wto_country/EU/full_text/pdf/EU99(english).pdf It has some pretty big boots, including requiring economic

[PSES] DoC Point 1 update regarding LVD RTTE recasts

2013-02-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
I received a nice response from Ms. Roithova (the parliamentarian who proposed a change to point 1 language in the LVD recast). She says the LVD recast language has been changed in negotiations and the current version does not mention unique identification. So the problem may be solved for the

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
.namprd03.pro d.o utlook.com, dated Mon, 25 Feb 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: John, since you ask...(but perhaps you only meant the re-scoping)... I did mean the re-scoping. The RTTE recast is also be stepping forward with the unique equipment number requirement

Re: [PSES] Recast of RTTE directive

2013-02-25 Thread Crane, Lauren
John, since you ask...(but perhaps you only meant the re-scoping)... The RTTE recast is also be stepping forward with the unique equipment number requirement in the DoC which seems to require 1 DoC per unit (rather than 1 DoC per model line). As I've mentioned in a previous post, this is also

[PSES] ELF

2013-02-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
Is 'ELF' (as in 'ELF EMI testing') well established in any region(s) (US, EU, etc...) as a particular frequency set, or is it primarily a subjective term for low-ish frequencies? If the former, document citations would be very much appreciated. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor P.S. I

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