Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-20 Thread jrmitchellj .
chine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > > > I first ran into this problem when I started building a new system with > the > > latest live iso, based on Debian. It worked as expected on Ubuntu 10.04. > > > > There seems to be mu

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-20 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: jrmitchellj . [mailto:jrmitche...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-17-17 8:06 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > I first ran into this problem when I started building a new system with

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread John Dammeyer
Elson [mailto:el...@pico-systems.com] > Sent: October-19-17 5:04 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > On 10/18/2017 11:14 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > I do have one question about this module just before I order one. Is the >

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/18/2017 11:14 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I do have one question about this module just before I order one. Is the Debian LinuxCNC set up to _not_ use the 'hard drive' for any temp files? Over time it wouldn't take long to wear out the FLASH memory. I've been using an SSD drive in my main de

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread John Dammeyer
> Sent: October-19-17 6:51 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > Separate adapter, > > > It came out of the junk, er spares box > > > Martin > > > > From: John Da

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread Chris Albertson
For storage I'd get something like this. Maybe not this exact product but one like it newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820301349 Be careful because at this low price point there is a LOT of low-spec'd junk out there Noti

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread Chris Albertson
If you are taking about a Flash based SSD do not worry about wearing it out. You will expire before it will. Also the average life of a conventional hard drive is much shorter. These SSDs are being used in place of mechanical spinning drives in all but the lowest end cheap computers now. They

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread Martin Dobbins
Separate adapter, It came out of the junk, er spares box Martin From: John Dammeyer Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:24 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. Thanks Martin, Where are you sourcing t

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 October 2017 at 05:14, John Dammeyer wrote: > I do have one question about this module just before I order one. Is the > Debian LinuxCNC set up to _not_ use the 'hard drive' for any temp files? > Over time it wouldn't take long to wear out the FLASH memory. That is definitely a concern, a

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Bruce Layne
The firmware inside the SSD does a good job of writing to the entire drive to avoid wearing out one small area if a file is rewritten continuously.  You can probably plan on 100,000 or more write cycles to the entire drive before the FLASH memory wears out.  Again, the SSD controller manages ba

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread John Dammeyer
I do have one question about this module just before I order one. Is the Debian LinuxCNC set up to _not_ use the 'hard drive' for any temp files? Over time it wouldn't take long to wear out the FLASH memory. I understand that most of the folders that are used this way are generally created and

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > I have found these more than adequate for a CNC machine. G-code files are > small: > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Disk-on-Module-Kingspec-SATA-SLC- > DOM-7Pins-8GB-SLC-1CH-/262850750707 > Plug directly into the SATA socket. (though they al

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread John Dammeyer
16V that comes from the transformer. Very cool site. Thank you. John > -Original Message- > From: Martin Dobbins [mailto:tu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: October-18-17 10:03 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > John

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2017 at 18:03, Martin Dobbins wrote: > Drive > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721106 I have found these more than adequate for a CNC machine. G-code files are small: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Industrial-Disk-on-Module-Kingspec-SATA-SLC-DOM-7Pins-8GB-SLC-1C

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Cole
Sent: October-18-17 8:32 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. I don't think you are saving time or money using old hardware. What about this?�� $70. The J1900 CPUs are known to work well with LinuxCNC. If you search the list I think you will s

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 10/18/2017 12:45 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: No I didn't. Nice. I just used a step/servo on a project last spring. I was amazed at how well it worked with a hires encoder connected. OTOH, it was over $700 but then raising a mast with equipment on it that cost way more. BTW, does anyone kno

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread John Dammeyer
it's a dual core processor? Or is the Real Time Varient restricted to only one core? Thanks John > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-18-17 9:58 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Martin Dobbins
s. Martin From: John Dammeyer Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:39 AM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. Hi Dave, Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that Umbuntu 12 LTS ran LinuxCNC directly connected

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 October 2017 at 17:39, John Dammeyer wrote: Are you aware that you are not so very far from Canada's own servo company? www.dmm-tech.com -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread John Dammeyer
:linuxcncro...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-18-17 8:32 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > I don't think you are saving time or money using old hardware. > What about this?�� $70. > The J1900 CPUs are known to work well with Linux

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes. Didn't some one here just find a $40 graphic card? For $30 more you get an entire computer with better graphics. I think you just search for couple keywords "fanless" and "intel" and yo get something that works and uses little energy. The other option if you are looking to save is to buy

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Cole
I don't think you are saving time or money using old hardware. What about this?   $70. The J1900 CPUs are known to work well with LinuxCNC. If you search the list I think you will see several references to them. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157497 I have a server runni

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> While I was out and about today, after doggy walk, I stopped in at a local > computer store that also sells surplus stuff. For $14.95 I picked up an AGP > 8x generic video board. > > Installed it, BIOS came up knowing it was AGP. Linux came up with proper > resolution. Sharp. Crisp. Then

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-18 Thread Lester Caine
On 18/10/17 07:46, John Dammeyer wrote: > I think this thread says it all about this particular GeForce MX 440 and > Linux. I tried apt-get for envyng-gtk and it no longer exists. > https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1029381 > But it looks like back in 2009 there wasn't a lot of support fr

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
hy it works so well with Knoppix? John > -Original Message- > From: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net] > Sent: October-17-17 9:53 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Cc: Gregg Eshelman > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. >

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
29 days to register this product message). John > -Original Message- > From: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net] > Sent: October-17-17 9:53 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Cc: Gregg Eshelman > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC M

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Is the motherboard AGP 8x compatible? There can be issues plugging an 8x video card into a board with a slower slot. The AGP standard has provisions for backward compatibility but they were for the most part optional. Many 8x cards are 1.5 volt only, though some can tolerate 3.3V or 5V. IIRC onl

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Has to be two different computers, right? For PCIe x1, grab a Quadro NVS 290 off eBay, preferably with the dual monitor breakout cable it'll require. Those come in dual VGA, dual DVI or one of each. You'll also find plenty of ATi FireMV 2250 x1 cards but the Quadro beats the pants off it and has

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-17-17 3:41 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > Why not just unplug the monitor, keyboard and mouse and run the system > "headless". Then you don't have to worry about graphic

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
; I'm thinking at this point it will be easier and less trouble to stay with > the Beagle until I have movable hardware. > > John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > Sent: October-17-17 10:43 AM > > To

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
nal Message- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: October-17-17 3:02 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > While I was out and about today, after doggy walk, I stopped in at a local &

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
ouble to stay with the Beagle until I have movable hardware. John > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-17-17 10:43 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > On 17 Octobe

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 18:30, John Dammeyer wrote: > The Live LinuxCNC distro doesn't have or create an xorg.conf file. Other > postings on the web suggest that this was disposed of in some distributions > in favour of xrandr and/or probing on startup everytime. Yes, but if you _create_ an xorg.

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
to leave this for a while and get some work done but I'll report back when I find out more. John > -Original Message- > From: jrmitchellj . [mailto:jrmitche...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-17-17 8:06 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread jrmitchellj .
I first ran into this problem when I started building a new system with the latest live iso, based on Debian. It worked as expected on Ubuntu 10.04. There seems to be multiple issues happening. >From what you describe, it seems that the system is expecting a wide (16x9) display. There may be a s

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 09:21:45 andy pugh wrote: > On 17 October 2017 at 14:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I've forgotten where its at, but there is a list that will let you > > match the hdmi_group and hdmi_mode lines to your monitor. > > https://elinux.org/RPiconfig >From that page, what adva

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 14:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > I've forgotten where its at, but there is a list that will let you match > the hdmi_group and hdmi_mode lines to your monitor. https://elinux.org/RPiconfig -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for th

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 October 2017 04:29:56 Chris Albertson wrote: > The first thing to try is "Applications Menu --> Settings --> Display" > then you set resolution to something smaller than your monitor. > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 12:19 AM, John Dammeyer > > > wrote: > > I have one more question whic

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2017 at 05:38, John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm seeing the same problem with that I have with the Beagle where LXDE > just can't get the screen resolution on this Samsung monitor right. You can force it. I typically end up creating an Xorg.conf but the xrandr method is slightly more frie

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Lester Caine
On 17/10/17 08:19, John Dammeyer wrote: > Is this a Motherboard Video controller issue with Linux thinking it's a > bigger screen or is it configuration issue? John ... getting modern graphics working reliably is one of the bane's of my live these days. Running the screens in the office on the end

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
n the AXIS window doesn't fit. The bottom is below the screen. So > it > must think it's on a bigger desktop too? > > Is this a Motherboard Video controller issue with Linux thinking it's a > bigger screen or is it configuration issue? > > Thanks > John &

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
I think the first problem to solve is why you can't burn DVDs You can bypass that problem if your PC is new enough to boot from a USB drive. Most can do that. That CD from 2005 is 12 yours old. On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:35 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Chris, > I had a LiveCD with Knoppix

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-17 Thread John Dammeyer
'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > > From: jeremy youngs [mailto:jcyoung...@gmail.com] > > Sent: October-16-17 7:48 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Lin

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: jeremy youngs [mailto:jcyoung...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-16-17 7:48 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > I have had good luck with infrarecorder as a simple download to burn iso > from a windoze computer >

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread Kurt Jacobson
e enough space for a 1GB ISO. >>> >>> Don't want to give up quite yet simply because the issues mentioned in >>> the >>> reviews were for a Linux that was 10 years old. It's quite possible >>> that >>> the newer installs will have no troub

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread Dave Cole
on.ch...@gmail.com] Sent: October-16-17 7:02 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. It will take only a few minutes to know it it will work. Boot Linux from a CD and it if comes up and runs at all you are good to go. But the specs on that old MB are n

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread jeremy youngs
ld even run. > > John > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > Sent: October-16-17 7:02 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > >

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread John Dammeyer
given up hope this would even run. John > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-16-17 7:02 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > It will take only a few minut

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
It will take only a few minutes to know it it will work. Boot Linux from a CD and it if comes up and runs at all you are good to go. But the specs on that old MB are not great. As it turns out, the best deals are for used systems, not used parts. You can buy a PC in a chassis with power supply

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread John Dammeyer
5 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux. > > > > > On 16 Oct 2017, at 20:52, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > > DOn't buy for linux. Totally unusable. Don't beleive me? Google it!" > > Should

Re: [Emc-users] PC MB for Linux.

2017-10-16 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 16 Oct 2017, at 20:52, John Dammeyer wrote: > > DOn't buy for linux. Totally unusable. Don't beleive me? Google it!" > Should I toss it? You might as well try booting it from the LiveCD to see what happens. FWIW I am getting very decent latency with an RMOne 310 all-in-one that I got f