Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread rayj
I dissected one of the cable ends, and the contacts have 2 points in the same plane, so I'm guessing they are for stranded wire. Thats good news for me, since I have typically been shortening and repairing jumpers. I have given the container a close inspection and can't find any thing on it

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:27 PM, rayj wrote: > > I suspect I have been using the ends for solid wire on stranded wire!! > Do you know where I can get a quick education on which is which and how > to tell the difference? There's no 'standard', but what I've seen is

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Chris Albertson
Looked like teflon to me. Here is the real answer "Plenum cable is jacketed with a fire-retardant plastic jacket of either a low-smoke polyvinyl chloride (PVC) or a fluorinated ethylene polymer (FEP

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread rayj
Greetings Prezemek, I suspect I have been using the ends for solid wire on stranded wire!! Do you know where I can get a quick education on which is which and how to tell the difference? TIA, Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness,

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 17.10.16 10:45, Chris Albertson wrote: > As for oil resistance, Buy the "plenum" type. They use teflon insolation > and don't cost that much more.These are sold because of fire codes in > some kinds of buildings, they don't create toxic smoke in a fire. Silicone insulation, perhaps? After

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Steve Traugott wrote: > ...and for encoder cables, you may want shielded twisted pair (has a foil > layer under the jacket). I've had issues with unshielded twisted pair > picking up motor EMF and adding extra encoder counts. ;-) Very true, but

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Steve Traugott
What I'm trying to say is that when you say "ethernet cable", most people mean UTP, unshielded twisted pair, generally rated CAT-5 or CAT-6 these days. Most ethernet patch cords are UTP. You can get the same thing in a shielded version as well, which you may find you want:

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Ed
Thank you to everyone that sent in their ideas! Since this is a commercial use and it takes about 8 hours to change the miserable cable I ended up going to Igus.com and getting cable rated for millions of cycles. I had used common shielded twisted pair not thinking of the constant strain. The

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> ...and for encoder cables, you may want shielded twisted pair (has a foil > layer under the jacket). I've had issues with unshielded twisted pair > picking up motor EMF and adding extra encoder counts. ;-) That's why ethernet cables and differential signals are a good choice. The PWM signals

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Steve Traugott
...and for encoder cables, you may want shielded twisted pair (has a foil layer under the jacket). I've had issues with unshielded twisted pair picking up motor EMF and adding extra encoder counts. ;-) On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > But

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
But today in real life, no one makes their own patch cables. But every installer has to make their own terminators for the on-wall cable because you can't pull wire that has a bulky connector on it. So the only tools and parts they commonly sell are for the in-wall kind of solid wire. As for

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2016 at 18:10, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > You're absolutely right about buying cables---the cost is so low that > it doesn't make sense. In fact, I have bought patch cables and cut the ends off as a source of multi-core flex at times. -- atp "A

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Ethernet patch cable might work. . Don't try and make you own.The > pre-made ones come in any > length from about 12" to 25 feet and they have those over molded train You're absolutely right about

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> Allied Electronics has _Continuous Flex_ cable listed and that's what you'd > want when attaching to a moving axis, whether it's in a cable drag chain or > not. Here's the Alpha wire catalog page from Allied Electronics page: > > http://www.alliedelec.com/catalog/pf.aspx?fn=1358.pdf > > If

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
Ethernet patch cable might work. This is NOT the same as the kind they pull though walls. The in-wall type is solid, the patch kind is stranded and has RF45 connectors with over molded strain relief on each end. I' think the patch kind would be great if you use the RJ45 connectors on each

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread andy pugh
On 17 October 2016 at 17:17, Mark Johnsen wrote: > The problem w/ continuous flex is that it's very expensive. So, you need > to ask yourself if it's worth it? Usually, I end up going w/ normal cable > and in this case, some ethernet cable as suggested might work okay I

[Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Mark Johnsen
Allied Electronics has _Continuous Flex_ cable listed and that's what you'd want when attaching to a moving axis, whether it's in a cable drag chain or not. Here's the Alpha wire catalog page from Allied Electronics page: http://www.alliedelec.com/catalog/pf.aspx?fn=1358.pdf If anyone knows of

Re: [Emc-users] Need recommendation on encoder cable --> Ethernet cable?

2016-10-17 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
How about ordinary ethernet cable? On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 14:36:22 +0100 andy pugh wrote: > On 17 October 2016 at 13:53, Ed wrote: > > Looking for a very flexible cable for an encoder, 3 pair will work would > > like 6 pair. The cable is in a cable track and