Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-02-01 Thread andrew beck
ith the components I'm using. > John > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: January-31-23 7:43 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-02-01 Thread John Dammeyer
using. John > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-31-23 7:43 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > I would certainly go back into testing mode

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-02-01 Thread Rick Moscoloni
Andy, thanks for the answer. El mar, 31 ene 2023 a las 10:05, andy pugh () escribió: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:16, Rick Moscoloni wrote: > > > > Hi Andy, could this be merged to master? or are proprietary? > > It has been offered to us, but it doesn't merge cleanly as it predates > the

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-31 Thread Sam Sokolik
I would certainly go back into testing mode if Rob merged the TP changes.. :) That is stuff you can setup and let run.. sam On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 7:05 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:16, Rick Moscoloni wrote: > > > > Hi Andy, could this be merged to master? or are

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-31 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:16, Rick Moscoloni wrote: > > Hi Andy, could this be merged to master? or are proprietary? It has been offered to us, but it doesn't merge cleanly as it predates the Joints-Axes changes. Rob Ellenberg said, (April 2021) There has been some divergence in the TP but not

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-30 Thread Rick Moscoloni
Hi Andy, could this be merged to master? or are proprietary? El mar, 24 ene 2023 a las 16:58, Andy Pugh () escribió: > > > > On 24 Jan 2023, at 18:03, Eric Keller wrote: > > > > Doesn't Pathpilot have better motion planning for more than 3 axes? > > Yes, it has full 9-axis blending. > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Windows has had a Hardware Abstraction Layer and Application Programming Interface for a long time, the objective is to make it much easier for hardware companies to interface their hardware with the software. A manufacturer of a device like a 4th axis could provide the software required to

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 6:11 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep > for > > > creating a 2.9

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread gene heskett
On 1/26/23 20:01, John Dammeyer wrote: So at the moment this is where I sit with the Pi4B (1GB) on the lab bench. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/Pi4-LinuxCNC-hardware.jpg The Chinese BoB is at the top left. The other two BoBs are ones I had kicking around. The board in the yellow box takes

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep for > > creating a 2.9 system that runs Path Pilot. > > > > Skip the SD card. Pi4 runs faster

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep for > creating a 2.9 system that runs Path Pilot. > Skip the SD card. Pi4 runs faster with a USB3 SSD.This used to be an expensive luxury but now if you have a

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
So at the moment this is where I sit with the Pi4B (1GB) on the lab bench. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/Pi4-LinuxCNC-hardware.jpg The Chinese BoB is at the top left. The other two BoBs are ones I had kicking around. The board in the yellow box takes TTL step/dir/enable and Fault and

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread rehenry
> On 1/26/23 13:43, rehe...@fast-air.net wrote: >> >> The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins >> with >> a couple fascinating cautions. >> >> * Do not dismantle or modify the product. >> >> * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
3 2:11 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > The root of the issue here is that LCNC is not a product. It is a > development environment where a person can, with some effort, develop a > pro

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread gene heskett
On 1/26/23 13:43, rehe...@fast-air.net wrote: The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins with a couple fascinating cautions. * Do not dismantle or modify the product. * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. * Do not try to repair

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
gt; Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > Just an addendum. Likely Peter at MESA can create a different 7i92 file that > fills the need for the Chinese BoB. > Here's a comment that is inside my Pi4 MESA hal file. > Note I identify the .pin

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
machine-is-enabled (output) John > -Original Message- > From: dave engvall [mailto:dengv...@charter.net] > Sent: January-26-23 10:09 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > Different

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Bari
January 26, 2023 10:01 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM wrote: To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a commercially viable product. The vast majority of potential use

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
there with this marvelous support group instead. John > -Original Message- > From: Eric Keller [mailto:keller...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-26-23 7:01 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread rehenry
The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins with a couple fascinating cautions. * Do not dismantle or modify the product. * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. * Do not try to repair any product malfunctions. If we applied this

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread dave engvall
files or applying updates that break things or... Others obviously favour different choices! -Original Message- From: Stuart Stevenson Sent: January 26, 2023 11:38 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines "Define

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
Stevenson Sent: January 26, 2023 11:38 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines "Define a set of hardware that works and make their own distribution with only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me that nobody wants

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
gt; Sent: January 26, 2023 10:01 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM wrote: > > > To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a > > commercial

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
- From: Eric Keller Sent: January 26, 2023 10:01 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM wrote: > To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a > commercially viable p

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM wrote: > To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a commercially > viable product. The vast majority of potential users are uncomfortable (or > don't want to bother) with manually modifying configuration files. Of course > the power of LinuxCNC is

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
Yes, my Tormach shipped with Mach3. The Mach3 configuration was "locked" so you couldn't make any changes. -Original Message- From: Martin Dobbins Sent: January 26, 2023 9:29 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach M

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Martin Dobbins
dows based commercial system. Martin From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 7:20 AM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines Pathpilot is a single bootable image for a variety

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
son.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-25-23 2:11 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > The root of the issue here is that LCNC is not a product. It is a > development environment where a person can, w

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread John Dammeyer
il.com] > Sent: January-25-23 2:11 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > The root of the issue here is that LCNC is not a product. It is a > development environment where a person can, with some eff

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread gene heskett
ng curve is steep and is just easier with systems that are not LCNC. John -Original Message- From: Todd Zuercher [mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] Sent: January-24-23 11:45 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines I'd like

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread ken.strauss
Message- From: andrew beck Sent: January 25, 2023 8:32 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines Ken can pathpilot do 5 axis? On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, 12:29 , wrote: > My understanding is that it is open source. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread andrew beck
interested in LCNC if there was a > > simple > > >> easy to follow, step by step method of setting up a 4 axis mill. > > >> The menu's for setting up motors etc. in AXIS either for the > > >> parallel port (almost extinct) or the MESA boards is really good > > >&g

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread ken.strauss
My understanding is that it is open source. -Original Message- From: Murray Lindeblom Sent: January 25, 2023 5:48 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines The question I would like answered is does Tormack make

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread Murray Lindeblom
rt > >> (almost extinct) or the MESA boards is really good but doesn't go far > >> enough. > >> > >> There are a few youtube videos out there that show how to select motors > >> based on mass of the system and acme or ball screw or belt reduction. > B

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread Linden via Emc-users
rning curve is steep and is just easier with systems that are not >> LCNC. >> >> John >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Todd Zuercher [mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] >> > Sent: January-24-23 11:45 AM >> > To: Enhanced Machine Cont

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread Chris Albertson
t; > -Original Message- > > From: Todd Zuercher [mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] > > Sent: January-24-23 11:45 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > > > I'd like see the

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread John Dammeyer
easier with systems that are not LCNC. John > -Original Message- > From: Todd Zuercher [mailto:to...@pgrahamdunn.com] > Sent: January-24-23 11:45 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > &

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-25 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Heh - I didn't read all the "comments". This thread seems like a "few" others. Made me think "Peter Paul Almond Joy has nuts - Peter Paul Mound don't" I don't care much for Mounds or Almond Joy but I sure LOVED Peter Paul Almond Clusters! They haven't made Almond Clusters for decades. 

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread andrew beck
; > > > Or even just AXIS instead of Tormach. > > > > The point is I've had absolutely no luck in convincing anyone to move > from > > MACH3 or any other CNC 'package' to LinuxCNC. Why? That's the question > we > > need to answer. > > > > John &

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Moray Cuthill via Emc-users
sage- > > From: Rob C [mailto:rclandro...@gmail.com] > > Sent: January-24-23 11:04 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > > > have you tried nativecam? > > > > easy

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Todd Zuercher
] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. > From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale > > adopt

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread gene heskett
On 1/24/23 15:10, John Dammeyer wrote: Hi Rob, No. I use AlibreCAD and the now old and discontinued AlibreCAM which is the integrated Mecsoft VisualCAM. As for I/O I think you might be missing the point. I've certainly had enough people stress to me the ease of setting up their Centroid

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
to answer. John > -Original Message- > From: Rob C [mailto:rclandro...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-24-23 11:04 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > have you tried nativecam? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Jan 2023, at 18:03, Eric Keller wrote: > > Doesn't Pathpilot have better motion planning for more than 3 axes? Yes, it has full 9-axis blending. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
of the base install), documentation, thread milling, DXF import, speed/feed suggestions, etc, etc?. -Original Message- From: Rob C Sent: January 24, 2023 2:04 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines have you tried nativecam

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Rob C
have you tried nativecam? easy to add to axis (when you've done it before). centroid acorn is nice, but very expensive and has very few iOS (compared to Mesa hardware and linuxcnc) and only 4x step and direction ports.. your choice. On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 18:42 John Dammeyer, wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale adoption of > > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI. > > There are around 12 user interfaces. Are

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Jan 2023, at 15:38, ken.stra...@sympatico.ca wrote: > > But seriously, in my opinion a major impediment to the widescale adoption of > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI. There are around 12 user interfaces. Are you saying that they are _all_ terrible?

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > > Several have opined that Pathpilot is just a pretty face and that is largely > correct. It does provide some nice features -- conversational machining > including drilling, thread milling, facing; probing; import of .DXF,

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread Eric Keller
f > LinuxCNC is the lack of an appealing and intuitive UI. > > -Original Message- > From: Rob C > Sent: January 24, 2023 1:55 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines > > am I missing something,

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines am I missing something, this is all documented on the forum, with a number of users using tormach with non tormach machines. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/pathpilot Mesa 7i92 will work just fine (I have had it running before) now I have seen

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-24 Thread ken.strauss
ed Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:23 PM Ron Ginger wrote: > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? > I doubt Pathpilot talks directly

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-23 Thread Rob C
am I missing something, this is all documented on the forum, with a number of users using tormach with non tormach machines. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/pathpilot Mesa 7i92 will work just fine (I have had it running before) now I have seen the light, and just run linuxcnc with axis for mill,

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-23 Thread andrew beck
Just a quick note. I think they run a standard mesa card. On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 18:22 John Dammeyer, wrote: > -Original Message- > > From: Ron Ginger [mailto:rongin...@roadrunner.com] > > > > I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, > > but I would like to

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-23 Thread John Dammeyer
-Original Message- > From: Ron Ginger [mailto:rongin...@roadrunner.com] > > I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, > but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:23 PM Ron Ginger wrote: > > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? > I doubt Pathpilot talks directly to any interface board. It is a user interface and likely generates g-code. Why not try it and tell us what

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 02:23, Ron Ginger wrote: > I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what > interface board do I need? I think that smgvbest on the forum is the expert on this. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the

[Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-22 Thread Ron Ginger
I would like to try to run PathPilot on my own mill. I now run Mach4, but I would like to see how well PathPilot works. I see I can simply download a copy from the Tormach site. what interface board do I need? What is Tormachs position on this? I know they have to release the code because