Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:44:52 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 09/12/2018 10:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:49:29 +0930 Simon Lees said: > > > >> > >> > >> On 30/08/2018 18:57, Stefan Schmidt

Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 19:49:29 +0930 Simon Lees said: > > > On 30/08/2018 18:57, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > Hello. > > > > On 08/10/2018 08:09 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > >> > >> Q: Where would this be hosted? > >> A: The provided link here is a cloud service which will be funded for the > >>

Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:11:54 +0200 Xavi Artigas said: > Hi, > > Since you explicitly asked for my opinion... I know git, but I have never > used Gitlab (or Github) to submit patches for review, and I only learned > Phab when I got here. Therefore I have too little background to be of any >

Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-09-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 12:05:12 +0200 Vincent Torri said: > On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:59 AM Al Poole wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I agree with you there Marcel. It's an awful lot of work with zero > > guaranteed improvement > > and a lot of time not spent on development nor fixing bugs That is

Re: [E-devel] Expose and Desksanity

2018-09-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 13:45:41 +0100 Al Poole said: My take is that he whole "get a preview of the window in miniature" (size of miniature can be variable) is extremely useful. It doesn't need a module of its own. Winlist is the alt-tab module. I would just add miniatures there AND add alternate

Re: [E-devel] Regarding Proposals

2018-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 00:24:59 +0900 Christophe Sadoine said: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 09:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:15:48 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz > > said: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > We've just completed our first round of voting ( > > >

Re: [E-devel] Regarding Proposals

2018-08-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 10:48:19 -0500 Stephen Houston said: > First off - There were a lot of emails about the proposal process with > instructions on how it works - as well as phab ticket and slowvote with > instructions for how it works there as well. From Raster's email it seems > he still

Re: [E-devel] Regarding Proposals

2018-08-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 08:15:48 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > Hello, > > We've just completed our first round of voting ( > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T7283). The process was a success overall, what on earth a success overall? how can you claim this? 2 polls. 1 had one vote, one had 2

Re: [E-devel] Gitlab

2018-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:29:15 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I am a bit curious where you think we need this much work with triaging? > > The biggest issue that we will have here is actually from our > passive-aggressive method of rejecting things we don't like. For example, > there are many,

Re: [E-devel] EFL 1.22 Development and Features

2018-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:27 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > Nobody proposed it so it's not on the list. I'm slowly working on it anyway, proposals, votes or not. :) > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:24 AM Stephen Houston > wrote: > > > I thought I had proposed this, but perhaps my mind has

Re: [E-devel] Help with documentation

2018-08-17 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 12:53:41 -0700 Matthew Zamudio said: > If you want me to look over some of the HTML stuff you mentioned, I have > plenty of time to do that this weekend. our www is in: https://git.enlightenment.org/website/www-content.git/ https://git.enlightenment.org/website/www.git/

Re: [E-devel] Help with documentation

2018-08-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:08:53 +0200 Xavi Artigas said: > Hi, > > The API docs require both language polishing and a technical review for > missing or unclear info. I generally think it is more efficient to do both > in one go, so I'd rather do these once you know some C at least. > > Putting

Re: [E-devel] Help with documentation

2018-08-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:17:52 -0700 Matthew Zamudio said: > Xavi, > > I will check out those resources. Thank you. > > As for code, I sadly can't do very much: I'm very experienced with > HTML/CSS, and have some understanding of XML and JSON. Once I have some > defined tasks, however, I can

Re: [E-devel] Quality of bugs on phab

2018-07-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 09:03:11 + jaquil...@eagleeyet.net said: > Hi Guys, > > I think a good place for me to start as I fight with getting things > built on fedora from git is that of traging of bugs that have had no > activity for an extended period of time. I am posting a comment on them

Re: [E-devel] Mac server sponsorship

2018-07-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 04:56:44 + jaquil...@eagleeyet.net said: > Hi All, > > I am looking at this to see what I can get and the initial provider I > found sadly his page is saying sold out on all models granted 2 say sign > up. > > My question though is how much storage space for code as

Re: [E-devel] Probie Proposal: Bryce Harrington

2018-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 14:16:58 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: +1 > Hello, > > I'd like to propose probie access for Bryce. He's been doing consistent > work writing and improving EFL documentation for some time now, and I > expect that the quantity and quality of his contributions will only be >

Re: [E-devel] Mac server sponsorship

2018-07-24 Thread The Rasterman
gt;>> said: > >>> > >>>> Hello. > >>>> > >>>>> On 23.07.2018 11:11, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:42:43 +0200 Stefan Schmidt > >>>>> said: > >>

Re: [E-devel] Mac server sponsorship

2018-07-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:42:43 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 23.07.2018 06:59, jaquil...@eagleeyet.net wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > I am willing to work on getting a CI setup on a mac machine going. > > > > I am willing to sponsor a server. I happened to find the following > > > >

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-16 Thread The Rasterman
uilding daily if you are building every commit already. > > > > > > the issue isn't the builds, it's the tests themselves. having them cover > > > everything in an efficient and sensible way. in fact lowering the barrier > > > of entry to making a test... th

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
o. > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 14 Jul 2018, at 09:03, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 14:35:10 -0400 Stefan Schmidt > > said: > > > >> Hello. > >> > >>> On 13.07.2018 13:09, Jonat

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:36:53 -0400 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 12.07.2018 13:12, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > Now that we're interacting more as a community, I think there is the > > general expectation that if you're a core developer then you should try to > > notify the project if

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:51:30 +0300 Jonathan Aquilina said: > I think it was me not being clear I think what I’m thinking is nightly tar > balls and if need be I’m willing to work on pre packaged binaries for nightly > builds TBH fixes don't move into a stable branch fast enough to justify

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 09:46:14 -0400 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 13.07.2018 03:20, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Some food for thought wouldn’t it be better to do more frequent point > > releases? > > If you look at the releases before 1.20 you will see that we did quite a > few. I aimed

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 14:35:10 -0400 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 13.07.2018 13:09, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > I think my take is more from the end user base. Isn’t it worth the time and > > effort to have binaries available for those non developers? > > Every night? I would say no.

Re: [E-devel] Community Scheduling

2018-07-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 18:30:13 +0300 Jonathan Aquilina said: > Could we enhance the scripts to make things easier to do this? > > If that is a yes then I’m more than willing to work on enhancing the scripts Yes - we could. Though it would be a combination of workflow + scripts. You want the

Re: [E-devel] Managing the next release

2018-07-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:14:47 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: > Hello, > > As Mike & Stefan pointed out in the ML thread "Community Scheduling", > doing EFL releases is quite a pain from time to time, we have a constant > "last minute" discussion about what is going to be merged, and what is >

Re: [E-devel] Simple question

2018-06-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 11:01:12 +0900 Hermet Park said: > "Library intl found: NO" > > Which package do i suppose to install to enable intl ? > Can't find package name with apt-cache search. Too ambiguous. > > Need the exact name for it. > > Anyone helps me? well glibc provides that normally

Re: [E-devel] A (Serious) Note Regarding Eflete

2018-06-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 05:25:42 + jaquil...@eagleeyet.net said: > Hi all, > > I think writing unit tests would be good for someone like me whose new > to the code base if it helps to catch issues. My question though is do > we have a tags on phab where senior devs post tickets for tests that

Re: [E-devel] A (Serious) Note Regarding Eflete

2018-06-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:14:39 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I don't think we need to do testing in EFL, we do have unit test coverage > for these functions and they pass. Given that this has never occurred in > any other circumstance (and we have testing), this should be considered an >

Re: [E-devel] A (Serious) Note Regarding Eflete

2018-06-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 11:07:36 +0900 Hermet Park said: > Additional explanation for the second, > > Unit test, TC, and automation tool is good but not enough. > We need human testers absolutely. They could test apps, detect errors and > then report it. > For the progressive sw, this must be a

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: efl_gfx_path: make counters unsigned

2018-06-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 14:48:54 +0900 Hermet Park said: > Hmm... do we really need to get a review for this kind of small fix? > At least, committers are proved, definitely know some patches are just > about trivial fix, not necessary get a review. if they wish to make work for themselves and

Re: [E-devel] EFL Freeze

2018-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 11:17:19 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: thanks for doing this. i would have done this prior to my holiday but efl was in a very broken state and it seems most people were more interested in blaming me for trying to get it into a state to freeze than to bother with it. i gave up

Re: [E-devel] Esysinfo

2018-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 12:06:36 +0100 Al Poole said: very cool. though i see you're using panels. they haven't been themed yet so look out of place... :) you might try right-aligning the other columns with numbers like pid, uid etc. :) > Hi all, > > I've been working on a system monitor. > >

Re: [E-devel] EFL Freeze

2018-06-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 13:35:56 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I'm opposed to having a blanket policy that there can be no new features at > all added during a freeze. the policy has always been just this - but like everything there is some grey. if a new feature is needed to fix a bug then it's a

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 18:53:22 +0300 Daniel Zaoui said: > Cedric, I hate you!!! Because of you leaving, I have a lot of spams of boring > people thinking that they, with their opinion, are important in the world. > > So you have two choices: you never come back or you never leave again!!! > >

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:01:10 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I've been struggling to find enough keyboard time to handle everything this > week, but this thread (and related discussions) have made me quite > discouraged in the meanwhile. There is far more time being spent using git > blame, and

Re: [E-devel] Some breakage, one workaround

2018-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 09:37:01 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000 > Daniel Kasak wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > I'd been holding off rebuilding from current git, given the > > discussion I've seen here. But then curiosity got the better of me :) > > My

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 10:16:34 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: dude... no need for that. :( cedric has done lots of good work. i think a fair few people have had their tussles with you. in fact of late i even commented to some people that you seem quite nice lately... :) > I will deviate

Re: [E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-05-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 08:54:00 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:48:38 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 May 2018 12:42:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." > > said: > > > > &

Re: [E-devel] Some breakage, one workaround

2018-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:00:45 +1000 Daniel Kasak said: > Hi all. > > I'd been holding off rebuilding from current git, given the discussion I've > seen here. But then curiosity got the better of me :) My findings ... > > - Windows will very regularly turn opaque and stop being rendered.

Re: [E-devel] Commit access suggestion for eagleeye.

2018-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:28:13 +0900 Hermet Park said: > Guys. > > By far, I've kept my eyes on the Hosang Kim aka > eagleeye. He have contributed many patches for improving and stablizing EFL > (specially in Elm) since 2013. He actually proved me his programming skill, > understanding of EFL

Re: [E-devel] EFL with only alsa no pulseaudio

2018-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 May 2018 12:42:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > I am not sure if EFL allows for usage with just alsa and without pulse > audio. That seems to be the source of this issue. If someone could > assign that to themselves and/or look into it that would be appreciated. ummm to be

Re: [E-devel] Off

2018-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:31:03 -0400 Cedric Bail said: > Hello, > > It has been quite exhausting over the past months to deal with the major > change and discussion necessary to be done for enabling a stable interfaces > for bindings. I will thanks everyone that helped get things done. Still, I

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:27:14 -0400 Cedric Bail said: > I have been wondering where to answer on this email thread, but I think that > the first one kind of set the tone and trend for the rest and overall it is a > very good example of bad communication and expectation to say the least. what

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: Revert "ecore-evas-x: set draw_block until the window receives a configure event"

2018-05-29 Thread The Rasterman
; > > > > > http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=4715c099ecb1e9a5c7de5dab883560e198704c72 > > > > commit 4715c099ecb1e9a5c7de5dab883560e198704c72 > > Author: Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) > > Date: Sun May 27 04:52:03 2018 +0900 > > &

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 May 2018 11:12:15 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Sun, 20 May 2018 11:45:37 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > oh... the default theme does re-use these images to make them look > > identical. > > I was thinking more

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 28 May 2018 16:05:11 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Mon, 28 May 2018 19:55:55 +0200 > Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > D6224, D6223, D6222 are fixing the issue. (Or at least the cases i > > have seen). > > > > However, could you stop acting up like this &

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-28 Thread The Rasterman
one etc. > D5 > > > > > Greetings, > > bu5hm4n > > > > On 05/27/2018 06:39 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:23:49 -0500 Stephen Houston > > > said: > > > > > >> Okay this is ce

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-28 Thread The Rasterman
along with other reasons), with the only alternative being to revert the whole lot due to lack of bisectability as i don't see finding the issue any time soon as possible unless you have deeper insight into the work at hand. > Greetings, > bu5hm4n > > On 05/27/2018 06:39 PM,

Re: [E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 27 May 2018 08:23:49 -0500 Stephen Houston said: > Okay this is certainly not ideal, but try not to over react here calling > everything horrible and somehow deducing something crazy like not reviewing > patches is somehow better than reviewing patches. Let's give

Re: [E-devel] Enlightenement Break

2018-05-27 Thread The Rasterman
il (latest efl lifecycle commits) and go back to 0090384ef5ac9f9e939874a1bbf233298c9db930 :( > Thanka > > On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:21 PM Daniel Zaoui <jackdani...@eyomi.org> wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 May 2018 12:55:02 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras.

[E-devel] latest efl lifecycle commits (from cedric)

2018-05-27 Thread The Rasterman
i've been dreading updating e1fl for the past few days. the dread proved founded. the short version: the batch below is pretty horrible. it leaves enlightenment glitching with garbage windows after a desktop switch or a second or 2. it makes enlightenment's restarts significantly slower (like

Re: [E-devel] Enlightenement Break

2018-05-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 26 May 2018 22:37:13 +0100 Al Poole said: > Hi raster, > > The commit: > > 757f7a7279e97e80ccb4defa986c174daaf9449e > > Breaks module loading on FreeBSD. > > Lots of unresolved symbols when loading modules: E initialzation loops > forever. > > I thought about

Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase

2018-05-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 May 2018 07:07:04 +0100 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 17.05.2018 18:47, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > I think we should make it a policy going forward that the stabilization > > period cannot begin until all pending patch submissions have been

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 11/13: ecore-evas-x: set draw_block until the window receives a configure event

2018-05-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 26 May 2018 21:40:55 +0300 Daniel Zaoui said: i've reverted it. for reasons given in my revert log (massive breakage and poor review that didn't even test the patch). :( once it's actually working and tested it can come back in... > Hi Mike, > > I am sorry to

Re: [E-devel] IRC notifications for TravisCI builds enabled on probation

2018-05-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 May 2018 07:03:07 +0100 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > On 17.05.2018 18:49, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > > I think there is no need to ever build /dev/ branches since these can (and > > sometimes should) be knowingly pushed even when they don't build. Only

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 19 May 2018 07:36:07 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 13:39:34 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 May 2018 14:22:13 -0400 "William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 18 May 2018 14:22:13 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sat, 19 May 2018 02:28:54 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > they fail for the reasons given... :) one tries to r

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 18 May 2018 10:16:03 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 13:51:31 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > http://dev.o-sinc.com/wayland_session2

Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase

2018-05-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:47:18 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I think we should make it a policy going forward that the stabilization > period cannot begin until all pending patch submissions have been reviewed. > There are still a ton of patches out there which

Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase

2018-05-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:14:48 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > Another update on this. > > On 08.05.2018 21:41, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > > > On 04/27/2018 01:38 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > > > There sadly has not been as much progress as hoped for. > > I

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 16 May 2018 11:35:01 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Wed, 16 May 2018 13:16:38 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 May 2018 12:04:43 -0400 "William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-16 Thread The Rasterman
items from the last > >> meetings, giving theire decisions to it. In our case there is also a > >> overlapping group of people which is not too small, so its not really > >> seperated with the URC + 8 UTC + 16 time proposal. > > > > then that's just email with

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:48:05 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 05/15/2018 07:21 PM, Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > > calendar item and removed the wiki content regarding the proposed

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 15 May 2018 13:49:46 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:21:55 +0200 > Marcel Hollerbach wrote: > > > Do what you like, call the time here. I give this up. I deleted the > > calendar item and removed the wiki

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 15 May 2018 12:04:43 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Tue, 15 May 2018 00:13:36 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:49:39 -0400 "William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 14 May 2018 18:38:38 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: > I dont have strong feelings if its either shifted by 12h or by something > else. Just reminding you, UTC + 20 means that there will likely be noone > else part of the meeting beside US people. I dont want to propose

Re: [E-devel] Partial theme under enlightenment_start

2018-05-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 13 May 2018 12:49:39 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: CSD vs SSD. some apps are having elementary do the client side decorations. x apps via xwayland though do the old school "wm provides the borders" (SSD). These are 2 different theme groups in the edc

Re: [E-devel] EFL without eet support

2018-05-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 12 May 2018 11:19:31 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sat, 12 May 2018 14:22:37 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > It seems to be toggling this, which I gue

Re: [E-devel] EFL without eet support

2018-05-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:25:18 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sat, 12 May 2018 03:53:10 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 May 2018 12:10:18 -0400 "William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] EFL without eet support

2018-05-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 11 May 2018 12:10:18 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > I am curious to know if there are situations where one would want EFL > built WITHOUT eet support. Not sure if Tizen uses eet or not, that may > explain why its a configurable build option.

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 01/01: edje: Update code to use memcpy as per review

2018-05-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 15:40:21 -0400 Christopher Michael said: > On 05/10/2018 02:50 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2018 09:11:48 -0700 Christopher Michael > > said: > > > > and this also improves nothing. if anything now it's

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 14:55:07 + Stephen Houston said: > This was the best time you could come up with for the meetings? 4-6AM EST, > 3-5AM CDT, 2-4AM MST, and 1-3AM PDT? That pretty much means that no North > Americans are going to be present at all... at least with

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 03/04: edje: Remove use of insecure strcpy and sprintf functions

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 08:14:55 -0700 Christopher Michael said: you didn't make it any more secure and you made the code harder to read, maintain, slower. > devilhorns pushed a commit to branch feature/security. > >

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 02/04: edje: Remove use of insecure sprintf function

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 08:14:54 -0700 Christopher Michael said: you didn't make the code any more secure, and you made it harder to read and maintain. > devilhorns pushed a commit to branch feature/security. > >

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 01/01: edje: Update code to use memcpy as per review

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 09:11:48 -0700 Christopher Michael said: and this also improves nothing. if anything now it's harder to read as keyl is the strlen +2 (with enough pace for :\ on the end) and the buffer is keyl +1... so you have to wrap your head around why memcpy is

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 01/04: edje: Remove use of insecure strcat function

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 08:14:53 -0700 Christopher Michael said: you didn't make it any more secure and you made the code harder to read, maintain, slower. > devilhorns pushed a commit to branch feature/security. > >

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] feature/security 04/04: edje: Remove use of insecure strcpy and strcat functions

2018-05-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 May 2018 08:14:56 -0700 Christopher Michael said: you didn't make the code any more secure, and you made it harder to read and maintain. > devilhorns pushed a commit to branch feature/security. > >

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 09 May 2018 13:58:52 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > Typically for meetings where items of substance are discussed, the minutes > will be recorded for posterity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes we already did that fr the past 2 irc meetings 2 weeks

Re: [E-devel] RFC unforgettable weekly meetings

2018-05-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 8 May 2018 13:54:09 +0200 Marcel Hollerbach said: I'm in on this. Already added it to my own personal calendar with notifications etc. :) > Updated version: > > i) We do two meetings a month: > 1) 1st Tuesday of each month at 8h UTC > 2) 3rd Thursday of each

Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase

2018-05-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 02 May 2018 16:38:07 + Stephen Houston said: Here's my take. it makes it or it doesn't. Releasing on time is all about that. So sure, make a concerted effort, but don't delay if it doesn't make it. We can "cut corners" like don't bother doing the colroclass

Re: [E-devel] Heads up on upcoming 1.21 stabilization phase

2018-05-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 8 May 2018 21:41:03 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 04/27/2018 01:38 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > Hello. > > > > > > Its been a while. About to get our act together and get everything in place > > so we can start the 1.21 stabilization phase. > > >

Re: [E-devel] does anyone use --enable-g-main-loop

2018-05-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 01 May 2018 13:29:27 -0400 Cedric Bail said: > On April 30, 2018 8:28 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 11:35:53 + Mike Blumenkrantz > > michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com said: > > > Regardless of this usage, however, I'm still

Re: [E-devel] does anyone use --enable-g-main-loop

2018-04-27 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:32:49 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > I have actually used this in projects before, and I also know that Tizen > definitely uses it. I'm strongly opposed to any removals here, and tests tizen absolutely does not use it. i checked the spec

[E-devel] does anyone use --enable-g-main-loop

2018-04-26 Thread The Rasterman
so we have integration for glib/main loop in regular efl which allows glib stuff to work with efl, but --enable-g-main-loop basically puts the efl ecore loop on top of the glib main loop. is anyone actually using this? is the regular glib loop integration not enough? -- - Codito,

Re: [E-devel] Get an IRC meeting togther?

2018-04-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:59:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> said: So 2 nights of meetings. Results in final comment here: https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > specifically: > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > > timed releases, roadm

Re: [E-devel] Support geometry change callback?

2018-04-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 13:23:49 +0900 Hermet Park said: > Hi. > > As I checked evas_object_geometry_set() or efl_gfx_geometry_set(), > It triggers resize, move callbacks individually. > > Well, I assume user scenario, > they may need just one event callback for the geometry

Re: [E-devel] Get an IRC meeting togther?

2018-04-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 19:18:12 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> said: conclusions for this meeting at the end of the vote: https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33 we have agreed to continue again tomorrow at the other popular time: 15:00GMT 24/4/2018 we shall co

Re: [E-devel] Get an IRC meeting togther?

2018-04-23 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 16:59:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> said: reminder, this is in 4h40 from now... :) > specifically: > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > > timed releases, roadmaps (release, project) etc. it'll be far better to do

Re: [E-devel] Static analyzers Sonar/SonarCloud vs Coverity

2018-04-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:26:03 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > First off thanks to the E/EFL community for making me aware of > Coverity. I had not heard of it before I came to E, and noticed it was > in use. I quickly put it to use for any apps I was working

Re: [E-devel] Get an IRC meeting togther?

2018-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:32:46 +0200 Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> said: > Hello. > > > On 04/18/2018 09:59 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > specifically: > > > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 > > > > timed release

[E-devel] Get an IRC meeting togther?

2018-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
specifically: https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6740 timed releases, roadmaps (release, project) etc. it'll be far better to do this quickly round-trip wise. Vote: https://phab.enlightenment.org/V33 -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler -

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: elm_dbus_menu: add missing const for Eina_List

2018-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 02:13:25 + YEONGJONG LEE said: that change looks correct. it's returning a const which implies don't free it - it's constant (it isn't - it's actually just the internal list). > Hello, > > I'm sure this is right. > See

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: elm_dbus_menu: add missing const for Eina_List

2018-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:53:09 +0200 Stefan Schmidt said: > Hello. > > > On 04/18/2018 04:13 AM, YEONGJONG LEE wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm sure this is right. > > See https://phab.enlightenment.org/D5953 > > OK, I can see now what happened. > > You did actually do

Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: ecore ipc - fix send to skip data payload if null/0

2018-04-11 Thread The Rasterman
.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=86c855bdd356550513bf2b316961eceace107291 > > > > commit 86c855bdd356550513bf2b316961eceace107291 > > Author: Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> > > Date: Wed Apr 11 14:34:40 2018 +0900 > > > > ecore ipc - f

Re: [E-devel] [Enlightenment-release] Let's get Terminology 1.2.0 out!

2018-04-09 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 9 Apr 2018 23:26:41 +0200 Boris Faure said: > Hi fellow Terminology enthusiasts! > > I feel like it's time to release Terminology 1.2.0! > If there is an annoying bug you think I should fix before doing the > release, now is the time to let me know! > Also, please

Re: [E-devel] Return status from ecore_exe functions

2018-04-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 11:43:38 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:50:14 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > terminate sends a term signal. process may trap t

Re: [E-devel] edje_cc efreetd sandbox access violation issues

2018-04-08 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 11:55:08 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:52:26 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:52:15 -0400 "William L. Tho

Re: [E-devel] Return status from ecore_exe functions

2018-04-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 22:51:43 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > It seems many of ecore_exe functions are wrapping like kill. Which > returns a status, but the ecore_exe functions do not. The ecore_exe > functions are all voids. Seems like it might be of benefit of

Re: [E-devel] edje_cc efreetd sandbox access violation issues

2018-04-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 12:52:15 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 14:49:52 -0700 > Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > > Solution is to run WITH XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and HOME set to a temp dir: > >

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