From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jacob Meuser
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 12:28
To: EUGLUG
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]Lovearth Network Hacked Down
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 11:40:49AM -0800, Dexter Graphic wrote:
I thought this was interesting because
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Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 14:58
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Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]Lovearth Network Hacked Down
Dex, before making conclusions, let's re-read what he says:
The entire Lovearth Network of 1000+
On this mailing list?
In the Eugene Unix GNU-Linux User Group?
In the free software movement?
I'm beginning to wonder if this whole movement is, for
the most part, just a drug-induced mass-hallucination.
Dexter Graphic
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, reforms corrupt governments, and revitalizes democracy
around the globe. I am beginning to think I'm in the wrong movement.
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I thought this was interesting because of the Linux technical
implications. Is it really possible that some group of secret
government operatives are forcing 1000+ Linux web sites down?
Dex
-Original Message-
From: Larry Morningstar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 05,
All the messages I've received for about the last day have been dated
2003 December 31. Apparently my isp (Prodigy/Yahoo/SBC) has something
set-up wrong. Here is the header from a recent EUGLUG post. -Dex
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31 Dec 2003 20:22:25 -0800
/proc/swaps' or 'swapon -s'.
Look at mkswap to create a swap partion or file on another drive.
snip
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Ralph Zeller wrote:
swapoff -a
On 12/31/02 09am, Dexter Graphic wrote:
I just tried copying my partitions one at a time with DMA support turned
I have an older CD ROM drive that won't read CD-R disks
that have a bluish dye layer (like Imation's) but will
read other brands (that are more clearish) just fine.
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Thanks, Dan and Joseph, for explaining. I mistakenly
assumed that 10 days was enough time to get a Linux
mail system up and running. And from some of Dan's
comments on the activism list, I thought he'd given
up all hope of it ever working. Just trying to help.
Dexter
Kbob wrote:
I can't answer all your questions, but I can tell you how
to learn what DMA mode Linux is using. Use the dmesg command
to display your console boot messages, and search for UDMA
in those messages. For example, I see this on tivopc.
[bmiller@tivopc latest]$ dmesg | grep ^hd.:
Dan
As fellow engineers interested in the success of open source technology
I think we should undertake an analysis of why your text-based Linux
mail system is not functional. Is the problem with hardware, software,
training, cost, usability, reliability, technical support, or what? I
am severely
I recently tried backing up my hard disk using Red Hat 8.0
instead of Debian 3.0 just to see if there were any settings
or optimizations that made any difference in the time it took.
What I found out was that dd would crash (after about 20
minutes) without reporting any errors and with all
Can Mike Doyle Do to Microsoft What the Rest of the Computer
Industry and the Department of Justice Couldn't Do?
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20021107.html
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Correction:
On 2002 December 23 at 14:58 I wrote:
32-bit I/O [...] made no difference in speed whether it was on or
off. The Debian hdparm readme said the same thing: that 32bit-I/O
usually does nothing for drive performance.
I looked again and it turns out that this information came
I will try it again tonight before bedtime. I figure it will take several
hours to duplicate my 40 GB drive. Which block size do you think I should
use to improve the speed? Is bigger better?
It should take 1-2 hours, if you have all the right hdparm settings.
Using Debian's
Dexter,
Your drive is still taking way too long. Use hdparm if necessary to set
(turn on) the speedier features of your drive. You should be able to read
and write your drive a whole lot faster than 4 hours.
Ralph
Well, that would be nice but I tested all the options you suggested
Here are some tests I just ran to see how various hdparm options
affected my system's hard drive throughput (aka data copy speed
or drive performance).
Note: hdparm can do terrible things to your hard drive and your
data so read the manual and be very careful what you type when
you use this
.
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Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 15:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]Mirroring a drive (all partitions and the MBR)
Dexter Graphic wrote:
I will try it again tonight before bedtime. I figure
Read A bit of history at the link below. It explains a lot, I think.
-Dexter
From: Mandrake Team
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 09:31
Flash: MandrakeSoft's Future
Many of you have followed the evolution of MandrakeSoft throughout the
past few years. Everyone who
of fact, and Dan said that he wanted
to download his mail and work off-line so that he could free up his phone
while he was reading and responding to messages.
Dexter Graphic -- Always trying to present things as clearly as possible.
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Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 00:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: EUGLUG; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Eug-lug]Dan's text based computer system
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 09:03:47AM -0800, Dexter Graphic wrote
at least 25
hours and possibly as many as 50 to get Dan's mail system
working. This means it would cost Dan $250 to $500 to solve
his problem.
If anyone else with more expertise than me is willing to do
it for less, then please submit your own proposals.
Dexter Graphic -- Always trying to present
*Reality Check!*
Dan sounds like a bundle of contradictions and perhaps _should_ stick
with Windows. Why should anyone help someone for free if they aren't
willing to invest at least an equal amount of time themselves.
Since Dan is no longer subscribed to this list and I know him pretty
it in a few days. I don't have a car though.
I have installed Mandrake before and I actually have a BSD system up and
running text only configured for efn. I could probably copy settings
from that. This would be a valuable learning experience for me.
Dexter Graphic wrote:
Since
than 512 bytes (since this seems to
be the default block size on modern hard disks and it results
in doubling of the copy speed.
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Thanks for the tips, Horst and KBob. I tried running a disk duplication
last night before I went to bed but this morning I was disappointed to
find it hadn't worked.
I had mistakenly issued the command dd if=/dev/hda of=/hdb and ended
up filling my root partition completely so that dd aborted
Any suggestions on how I can mirror (duplicate onto an identical
drive) my fancy 3 distribution and 8 partition GNU/Linux system?
Would dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb work? If so, do I have to run
it from a boot floppy so that no partitions are mounted?
Also, it's not exactly what I'm looking for,
I was excited about Esperanto for a while but then I gave it up. I was
put off by all the strange, non-Latin, characters it uses. They're not
on my keyboard. Where does this email course come from? I might try it.
Dex
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is that it reduces the traffic over
your internet connection.
Dexter Graphic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
If set up a DHCP server on my network, I assume that
means I can no longer use a hosts file for resolving
machine names, so does that mean I need a DNS server
to perform this function
I'm trying to consolidate three different Linux systems I've got going
(Debian 3.0, Mandrake 8.2, and RedHat 8.0) so they will all boot from
the same harddrive using Lilo to pick which one.
Previously each distributions was on its own hard disk (which I swapped
out when I wanted to switch
A DNS server running in this fashion is termed a caching dns server.
...This means the first lookup goes over the internet connection, all
subsequent lookups are made either on the local machine or over a lan
depending on the setup.
When, if ever, does the DNS server check to see if an
The problem is really simple, looking at your config
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=Mandrake
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi
read-only
so /boot/vmlinuz is the Mandrake kernel, got it.
image=/boot/vmlinuz #
You will also want to edit your /etc/fstab to reflect the proper mount
points for each system (and swap file) since they likely have changed
(well.. at least on 2 of the systems).
I already did this part, I just forgot to mention it in my post. Sorry.
Dex
You can have three separate /boot folders, one on each partition. Then
you'd setup lilo from mandrake (ie the first). You'd make changes to
lilo only in mandrake. You would then have only one image:
image=/boot/vmlinuz -- mandrake kernel
options...
other=/dev/hda7
Please disregard this duplicate message. My send address was wrong so I
did not expect that my ISP would let it through. Apparently it did after
some delay. -Dex
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Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002
I got Debian to boot from its own partition using lilo. Hurray!
Without your help I don't think I would have ever figured it out.
Regards,
Dexter
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If set up a DHCP server on my network, I assume that
means I can no longer use a hosts file for resolving
machine names, so does that mean I need a DNS server
to perform this function?
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http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2127047,00.html
Richard Stallman, the free-software nut who became a
genius, is on a mission to completely reject proprietary
software - and make it easy for others to reject it, too.
I thought this article had something for everyone, so I
posted it to
What is the procedure for bug reporting in Debian? Seth
told me once about a program that e-mails a report to the
appropriate maintainer, but I don't remember how to do it.
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Is there some way to make the evaluation CDs you gave out
work on a computer without a bootable CD ROM drive?
snip
Unfortunately the answer will have to be no on that one. I argued with people
when I returned about that because I encountered the issue or more than one
occasion while on
Netgear makes a 2 port and a 3 port 10/100 printserver.
http://www.buynetgear.com/product.asp?sku=1015044
http://www.buynetgear.com/product.asp?sku=1634663
They sell for around $100 and $125 respectively.
http://www.nextag.com/serv/main/buyer/outpdir.jsp?doSearch=ysearch=netgear_print_server
I
I just downloaded the floppy boot (boot.img) as per the instructions in
the online installation manual. It is 1.4MB not 2.88. I used rawrite to
put it on a floppy and booted my 'puter with the evaluation CD in the CD
ROM drive; after some sputtering and searching it said wrong version of
disk
from http://apnews.myway.com//article/20021126/D7NHG9IO0.html
Computer Pioneer Alan Kay Joins HP Labs
Nov 26, 12:21 AM (ET)
By MATTHEW FORDAHL
SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) - Computing pioneer Alan Kay, who was
instrumental in the development of modern programming languages
and graphics-based computer
Does anyone have experience running an HP DeskJet off
a network printserver device from a Linux workstation?
I'm wondering if it works and how well. What brand of
print server would you recommend? Does it need to be
an HP model to work with the DeskJet?
My objective is to be able to print from
If I go the hp jetdirect route, it looks like the 300x is the model
I would get. Here are the specs:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/un/WF06/18972-236253-64302-34214-27316-13138-13139.html
I checked around, and the jetdirect 300x sells for around $250 plus
shipping. Here are two suppliers
Pagemaker What Linux Program?
http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/about.html
Scribus is a Layout program for Linux, similar to Adobe PageMaker,
QuarkXPress or Adobe InDesign, except that it is published under
the GNU GPL.
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Between Red Hat, Mandrake, SUSE, Debian, and all the rest, you'd figure
that they could get the hardware detection and GUI interface (X install)
to just work right out of the box using a universal hardware database.
Isn't the whole point behind open source that if one person figures out
how to
There will be a free workshop Friday from 13:00 to
16:15 at the Fir room in the EMU at the U of O.
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~sbs/program.html
I would like to invite all of you who are interested
in pursuing the creation of a Computer Consultants'
Cooperative based on sustainable
Is there a command you can type at the Linux command line to tell you
what time it is (or at least what time the computer thinks it is)?
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On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 15:30, Mike O wrote:
gunzip filename.gz
tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz
couldn't resist.
The gunzip worked but it deleted the original file.Is there some way to
stop it from doing this?
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...I have a hsp56mr modem and I don't know how to set it up...
How do you know it's an hsp56mr modem? Are you getting this from
the Windows Device Manager? My experience is that hsp refers to
a type of driver, a host signal processor, meaning only that the
modem depends on the host CPU for
Thanks for all the command line help (determining the time
and extracting archives).
But doesn't anyone ever use KDE? Like for browsing through
the compressed help files in /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en/ ?
I thought maybe if I entered . as the default directory
in ark's preferences that it might
Larry, I truly appreciate your sharp witted humor. -Dexter
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On Fri, 2002-10-18 at 22:01, Larry Price wrote:
What problem are you trying to solve, is it that you don't have the
bandwidth and don't want to get stuck with your phone line occupied,
or is it that don't have the disk space?
I want to apply any system security updates that have come out
A note to Bob Miller and other interested persons:
The ISO for disk 7 was good (confirmed with md5sum) so I burned
it onto a CD and ran apt-cdrom add to get it into my sources
list. And it turned out that that's where Jigdo was located, as
well as a couple other packages I was looking for.
I
Let's say I ran apt-get upgrade to fetch any new security
updates for Woody, but when I saw how much stuff it was going
to download I told it no to cancel. However, every time I
run dselect now it still wants to get and install all of those
packages. How do I get apt-get to stop trying to
Joseph Carter wrote:
apt-get install the-one-thing-I-need
I don't know what the one thing I need is; I'm looking for all the
security updates to date.
Kbob wrote:
I think you want to set the packages' hold flags. You do that
in dselect with the H command.
How would I even find the 96
Comment all lines except for the ones that reference security.debian.org.
This will give you the security updates and not the upgrades.
That's the only place I was pointed.
apt-get upgrade -u
Shows all packages that will be upgraded.
Running this returned 96 packages, 28 MB, most of them
and never say you're sorry.
Selfishness and greed really is the only thing worth fighting for!
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This same puzzle was posted about a year ago. I figured it
out by making notes on a piece of paper, although it took
me about an hour. I don't remember what the answer was but
I remember that it was fun and challenging to figure out.
Dexter
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http://apnews.excite.com/article/20021010/D7MIIBVO0.html
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Bowing to criticism, Microsoft Corp. on Wednesday backed off a
copyright protection scheme that would have restricted the use
of TV programs recorded on computers that run an upcoming
version of the Windows XP operating system.
Windows
Microsoft Wins Software Case
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20021011/D7MJERD81.html
Oct 11, 11:26 AM (ET)
HONG KONG (AP) - A judge ordered a computer retailer to pay
Microsoft the equivalent of $4.5 million in damages for the
retailer's unlicensed use of the software giant's products.
High
Radio stations can now broadcast CD-quality music.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20021010/D7MIU0G83.html
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Lawrence Lessig's presentation at LinuxWorld, The New New Old War.
He discusses the future of the internet and how developing
intellectual property laws threaten it. (Is that accurate, Dexter?)
Looking at the awkward title of the talk, I realize that the meaning
would be clearer if it were
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
Why is OpenOffice.org not included in the Debian distributions?
It's available from http://www.linux-debian.de/openoffice/,
but not on the regular Debian mirrors.
On 2002 October 08, Seth Cohn wrote:
Debian politics mostly. See below.
Your use
Well, I finally found an ISP I liked. Check out this great
setup instructions page: http://www.express56.com/dun.shtml
It's the best I've seen. It includes instructions for Linux
and Free BSD.
The service requires no special software and it costs only
$6.95 per month--with no yearly
Does any one have a nationwide ISP they would recommend
that supports GNU/Linux?
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Check out these amazing examples of the powerful versatility of
32 bit per channel images!
http://www.idruna.com/photogenicshdr.html
Why 32 Bits Per Channel?
Regular 8 and 16 bit per channel applications are simply not
capable of realistically or accurately processing real world
levels of
ox
oxen
box
boxes
boxen?
fox
foxes
foxen?
vixen (one female fox)
sock
socks
sox
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A language's suckatude (or rockatude) is its relative count of web
pages that mention the language's name along with sucks and rules,
measured by searches on AltaVista.
I'm sure there are a lot of happy programmers who never put up a web
page declaring that their favorite language
If I bring my 'puter in tonight can I connect to you're
network and download Debian ISOs using Jigsaw? -Dexter
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On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 07:34:05PM -0700, Edward Craig wrote:
Looks as though I managed to spread klez (or something like it)
out there, judging by feedback to lane-greens-administrator. Hope
nobody actually applied it.
It looks to me like the server stripped out the virus, so the message
Larry,
So does it look like we're going to have a meeting at EFN tonight?
If so would it be possible for me to download/copy the latest Debian
distribution to my harddisk? I assume that the 7 CD images will be
available somewhere/somehow either on one of your machines or from
the Internet?
You really only need the first CD. Once you have the basic system
installed you can pull in just what you need from a Debian mirror.
With my 28.8 connection I'd rather install everything from the CD's.
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Dexter Graphic wrote:
Larry,
So does it look like we're going to have a meeting at EFN tonight?
Yes, unless my head explodes
If so would it be possible for me to download/copy the latest Debian
distribution
Larry,
What is the password we are supposed to use to access our subscriber
settings via the link at the bottom of your message?
Dexter
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Larry Price
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 16:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Eug-lug]
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20020825/D7LKINH80.html
These 21st century hot rods have exotic electronic components,
plastic windows, fancy lacquered paint jobs and neon lights
that pulsate to music.
http://www.falcon-nw.com/%5Cexotix.asp
This $80,000 '99 Dodge Viper GTS and Mach V
The Free Software Foundation supports the Blender Foundation in its
campaign to raise funds so that Blender can be released under GNU GPL.
http://www.blender3d.com/
probably another proprietary M$ file... See if you can find something to open
it, or just tell your friend to use real products instead of those fake M$
wanna-be-products :)
Jamie
Microsoft excels at making and marketing real products, what they have
trouble with is abiding by real
On my Mandrake 8.2 system all the KDE icons are located in /usr/share/icons.
This seems to be the default location where KDE desktop shortcuts look for
their associated icons. If you search for kcontrol.png (one of KDE's icons)
on your system where does it show up? If it's not found or if it's
I found the following suggestion at the MandrakeForum:
http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2205lang=en
Open Control Center, Open Boot, Open Boot Config, Change Kde 3 to
the default desktop, Click OK, Close Control Center, Next time you
boot up kde3 should load.
If that does not work
It's a big business of pushers. It supports it's own agenda. The
abusers are the problem, and they control the system. They have
twisted it to their will, so to speak. It's so effective and complete
that people are unaware that it can be any other way...
Tim,
That's what capitalism
There has to be an easy fix for this, right?
I don't know; did you try rebooting? That often works for MS Windows.
(c:W
Have you ever considered therapy, Dexter? Sometimes just
a simple supplement can help you.
Regards, Jim
Therapy assumes that the problem is primarily in my head,
but here are lots of objective facts that support my view
of capitalism. I guess you could make the argument that all
socialists
Have you ever considered therapy, Dexter? Sometimes just
a simple supplement can help you.
Regards, Jim
Therapy assumes that the problem is primarily in my head,
but there are lots of objective facts that support my view
of capitalism. I guess you could make the argument that all
software if we want to set our fellows free and save the planet
from further environmental destruction. Universal Family Love will be
the new kernel of the Revolution OS. Let the greedy try to hack that!
Dexter Graphic
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Linux Rocks
be overcome
by the power of good: personal honesty, integrity, and
creativity. I will stay and fight for the working people
of this country and every other against the injustice,
lies, and brutality of capitalism (legalized plunder.)
So help me God,
Dexter Graphic
MAYBE you have different partitions, each of them having their
own lost+found
The lost+found in my other partition is empty also.
I found this article comparing firewall solutions helpful. -Dexter
http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=2424/uni1014152480113/0202i.htm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Horst
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:00
Subject: [EUG-LUG:3266] Re: Dexter's boot troubles
Dexter,
Let me start by saying that I DO enjoy and appreciate your detailed
problem descriptions --and sometimes success report, i.e. how you got the
CD
My Mandrake 8.2 system recently stopped booting. After
a couple of days of fiddling with it, I gave up and just
reinstalled the system from CD. This didn't actually fix
the problem but created others which somehow resulted in
a solution. But I'm still curious what actually happened.
I would
Thanks for your analysis, Jamie. Below are some clarifications and more
questions.
My guess is your original boot block had an issue (not being properly
linked?) and the fsck ran by the boot process probably re-linked to an
alternate boot block
What causes a boot block to become unlinked?
: My guess is your original boot block had an issue (not being properly
: linked?) and the fsck ran by the boot process probably re-linked to an
: alternate boot block
:
: What causes a boot block to become unlinked? And wouldn't one of the
: many filesystem checks I ran manually have
James, did you ever get X working? -Dexter
Is anyone here interested in writing a Windows install
program for mouse pointer schemes from a CD? I'm not
into this but I have a customer who is asking for it.
Dexter
I just don't understand why the video card and system works well with 7.1,
but freaks out with 8.2. My video card is so old, I have no idea what it
is, really.
Try using the version 3 Xserver instead of version 4; it's an option during
X setup. You can also change it using the system
is the only reason to do anything.
Dexter Graphic
Never be afraid to follow truth, beauty, and goodness
wherever they may lead you. www.UniversalFamilyLove.net
of the Mandrake Linux Security Team to
verify the GPG
signature of each RPM.
If you use MandrakeUpdate, the verification of md5 checksum and GPG
signature is performed
automatically for you.
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Dexter Graphic wrote:
I encountered the following instructions on how
what about picoBSD
http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/
I tried two variants of pico: router and dialup (because it has the help
files) but neither of them would boot on any of three machines I tried
(an old Pentium 166, a Pentium II 333, and a Pentium III 850) they just
started to load the os
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