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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
I never said I put much faith in it, but I did actually read some to see
what they were trying to do. I am curious if the debunkers also had an
ax
to grind.
I thought the Hummer/Prius ranking was a likely sign of crappiness, but
I
could see where
Chris,
Thanks for taking the time to offer a thoughtful reply.
I was surprised seeing a series of replies lined up that seemed like piling
on. I can be counted on to note that sort of thing.
I am not very offended by anything that has transpired here. I am
generally very thick skinned. None
From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:33 PM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
Thank you Cor,
This is just me experimenting with the ideas
Can we really disregard
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
Thank you Cor,
This is just me experimenting with the ideas
Can we really disregard the energy cost of all those other items making
up the totla cost?
I guess can see leaving out profit (which is sort an excess since
everyone
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Michael Ross via EV ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote:
Hello Cor,
I have seen a dust to dust comparison of the inputs necessary to have a
particular mdoel of car.
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Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found
slightly less
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From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:10 AM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways
On 26 May 2014 at 12:09, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found
slightly less environmentally favorable than said Hummer.
Great clickbait! And, like most clickbait, it's rubbish.
These studies are complex and are typically built on a
Amen!
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On May 26, 2014, at 2:59 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
On 26 May 2014 at 12:09, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
Interesting and not surprising to many EV types, the Prius was found
slightly less environmentally favorable than said Hummer.
I never said I put much faith in it, but I did actually read some to see
what they were trying to do. I am curious if the debunkers also had an ax
to grind.
I thought the Hummer/Prius ranking was a likely sign of crappiness, but I
could see where it came from. Let's face is having two power
On 05/24/2014 09:48 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
I think the reasoning is silicon is cheaper than petrochemicals. I
particularly like the idea of programmable and sensing roadways. Reminds me of
the world of Minority Report. Lawrence Rhodes
An idea worthy of study. I would like to
Raw silicon is certainly less expensive, but refined silicon is refined by,
ahem, burning a LOT of petrochemicals. Not quite as energy-intensive as
aluminum smelting, I'd guess, but nearly so. That's why the embedded energy of
PV panels nearly always outweighs their lifetime solar energy
To: Lawrence Rhodes; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
Raw silicon is certainly less expensive, but refined silicon is refined
by, ahem, burning a LOT of petrochemicals. Not quite as
energy-intensive as aluminum smelting, I'd guess, but nearly so. That's
why
From the video and web page, the surface *is* the solar cell - attached to a
solid concrete cellular base by 2 or more bolts. So repair would be very
simple and very quick - remove damaged, 'cells' bolt in new ones. The PV and
electronics might even be salvageable for re-use in a new cell.
...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock
via EV
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:44 AM
To: Lawrence Rhodes; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
Raw silicon is certainly less expensive, but refined silicon is refined
by, ahem, burning a LOT of petrochemicals
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From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 5/25/2014 9:59 AM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
In the US anything one may about payback in so many years is purely
speculative and very geography
On May 25, 2014, at 7:26 AM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I'd like to know where you heard that (incorrect) tidbit
about solar panels having more energy content than they generate.
My assertion, more specifically, was that that was true for places that weren’t
essentially
Studies have shown having PV in cool climates is a bit more efficient than hot
climates as the cool air improves how the PV works and extends working life.
Lawrence Rhodes
The last studies I saw (which I can try to dig up) showed PV energy payback at
between 1 and 4 years -- so with a
A roof mounted PV system has a mitigating effect on the cooling needs of
the building. The PV maybe less efficient, but it needs to do less work.
I have no idea how that really balances out.
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV
ev@lists.evdl.orgwrote:
Studies have
: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 5/25/2014 9:59 AM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
In the US anything one may about payback in so many years is purely
speculative and very geography dependent.
Short payback
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From: Michael Ross [mailto:michael.e.r...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 5/25/2014 9:59 AM
To: Cor van de Water; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.
In the US anything one may about payback in so many years is purely
speculative and very geography dependent.
Short
Hi Bill and All,
So you think it takes 50,000kwhrs of energy to make 1kw of PV produces
US average site? Of a 1kw panel array of 50sq' or so? What have you been
drinking/smoking?
That is equal to 1200gals gasoline at 100% eff which gasoline is not,
only 7% eff to the
This is a very good idea in my opinion. Lawrence Rhodes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4L18zOEYI
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Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
This is a very good idea in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4L18zOEYI
It's an interesting idea. But cost is going to be a *major* problem.
I wonder why they just don't put the PV panels in the noise walls,
barriers, and other vertical constructions
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