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https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/cobalt/mcs-2017-cobal.pdf Doesn’t sound like there is a problem to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2018, at 5:00 PM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > You don't have to look very far to get a grip on the supply

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Michael Ross said (in part): The grid is a super storage medium. If we were more interconnected worldwide, then a series of large solar arrays could do it all. You just need enough of them facing the sun at any given time and then batteries can take their better place as mobile storage. This

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Actually, a 1200 mile HVDC line looses only about 5% of the energy transmitted, so it is very efficient. Now, these lines are expensive, about $2 million/per mile, or $1.4 billion for a 1200 mile line, and the longest one I know about is about 1500 miles in South America, so they can't really

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You don't have to look very far to get a grip on the supply difficulties that are here already. Tesla hasn't come close to their minuscule 500,000 vehicles a year goal and the existing market for battery materials is close to tapped out. Build up of mining capabilities will inevitably happen, but

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You did not run any numbers. The mining implications are paramount. Recycled EV batteries won't make a dent. Virus-free. www.avg.com

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Use recycled EV batteries for grid storage Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > I disagree on the batteries are "there." I doubt we can store the "energy > of man" in batteries. And currently we are no where near close to that.

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It gets dark this time of year before 5 pm and they delivered packages to my house up to 9 PM during the holidays. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Michael Ross via EV wrote: > > You are implying that shipping docks will be manned all night long in this >

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Michael Ross said (in part): > The grid is a super storage medium. If we were more interconnected worldwide, then a series of large solar arrays could do it all. You just need enough of them facing the sun at any given time and then batteries can take their better place as mobile storage. This

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I disagree on the batteries are "there." I doubt we can store the "energy of man" in batteries. And currently we are no where near close to that. It is too much, and we won't be able to use batteries for that kind of massive storage. I think Musk estimated 250 Gigfactories just to do all EVs,

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s.evdl.org] On Behalf Of John Lussmyer via EV Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 7:50 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: John Lussmyer Subject: Re: [EVDL] No, electric cars (still) aren't crashing the grid. Again: Good News: EVs Are Not ... On Thu Jan 04 07:41:44 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org s

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Bob Bruninga said (in part): > Thanks for the LIVE California load page. That page today shows the famous Duck's back curve that is developing in California. Yes, today (in winter), the curve still has the demand higher during the day than at night. But that same curve during the spring and

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ge of them... Bob, WB4APR -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of jim--- via EV Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 11:30 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: j...@k6ccc.org Subject: Re: [EVDL] No, electric cars (still) aren't c

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Bob Bruninga said (in part): > With solar, day will become the new night, with the cheapest energy available during the day. Already is in California. Where are you getting that? That is certainly not true. Demand is still highest during the day (or with the current weather that results in

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You are implying that shipping docks will be manned all night long in this scenario. Or that residential or postal workers will want to try to deliver in the dark. There are very real downsides to tripping around in the night, and 3rd shift work is bad for health. When I was delivering furniture

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On 4 Jan 2018 at 7:50, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > Actually, that is the reverse of what you want. You want to store > during the night when demand is low, then use during the day when > demand is hi. It's certainly the opposite of what we do now. Robert seems to be suggesting that in the

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On Thu Jan 04 07:41:44 PST 2018 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Mail at night! >I suspect that in 20 years, the post office, UPS and Amazon and all long >haul trucking and deliveries will all be at night. Think of the benefit >to the grid and everyone (including reduced traffic congestion). All >those

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at night as a great balance to the grid. With solar, day will become the new night, with the cheapest energy available during the day. Already is in California. Bob -Original Message- Subject: [EVDL] No, electric cars (still) aren't crashing the grid. Again: Good News: EVs

[EVDL] No, electric cars (still) aren't crashing the grid. Again: Good News: EVs Are Not ...

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1114558_no-electric-cars-still-arent-crashing-the-grid-again No, electric cars (still) aren't crashing the grid. Again. Jan 3, 2018 ... Remember all those brownouts we experienced last week because everyone plugged in their electric cars? No? Oh right, that