Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread paul dove via EV
There is very little electrolyte in a Lithium Ion battery. If you open one up it doesn’t pour out. It is mostly on the pos and neg terminals based on charge state. You might get a few teaspoons. The idea is to only have as much as needed to increase the energy density. More electrolyte

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
The towing restrictions are for the most stupid idiots among us that would try to tow Large things at 85 MPH and then blame everyone else for their problems. I tow my boat, COM trailer, and utility trailers behind my prius locally. I'd be a fool to try to tow an RV trailer across country though.

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Steves via EV
Yeah, I imagine it’s easier to say no towing than specify how much weight, aerodynamics, etc. I used to have a Saab 900 Turbo and I was towing a trailer full of tall furniture at 55 and after a while realized I was in continuously in turbo. I bet it was the bad aerodynamics. Probably be fine

Re: [EVDL] Newswires: Tesla III crash and enclosed motorcycle.

2020-06-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Car computer will probably show he had his foot on the accelerator not the brake. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 21, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: > > https://www.gizmochina.com/2020/06/18/tesla-model-3-suddenly-picks-up-speed-uncontrollably-crashed-and-caught-fire/ > Tesla

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: George's farm truck/van EV project

2020-06-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Toyota has stated that they don't intend to make electric cars anytime in the near future. They claim that hybrids are a better use of battery technology. Is that Toyota *America*, or the head office in Japan? I can see the American division saying they won't

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: George's farm truck/van EV project

2020-06-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Jun 2020 at 13:29, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > But there are already many markets in the world where ICEs are banned. > There are likely to be more in the future. China is pushing EVs hard. France and the UK plan to do away with ICEV sales by 2040, and in fact France wants Paris 100% EV by

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing ... aaerodynamics

2020-06-22 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
> I used to have a Saab 900 Turbo and I was towing a trailer full of tall > furniture > at 55 and after a while realized I was in continuously in turbo. > I bet it was the bad aerodynamics. Talking about aerodynamics. I severely modified my Chevy Volt to add 250W of solar panels, but I'm still

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
All of them, it's a federal law. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. "The dealer/vehicle manufacturer has the right to deny a warranty repair but they must demonstrate that the aftermarket part caused the problem. The warranty remains in effect for all other covered parts."

[EVDL] Iota DLS-55 on a 96v battery

2020-06-22 Thread Matt via EV
Hi All, I have a conversion that used to run a 144v battery (45 x TS 160AH cells). I have replaced the battery with a 96v nominal battery (32 x CALB CA 130Ah cells) and the DC-DC (IOTA DLS-55) seems to be low on output voltage, due to the input voltage being below 130vdc. I can boost the

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing ... aaerodynamics

2020-06-22 Thread Steves via EV
That’s good . I got 38 MPG going down 81 last week (70 MPH speed limit) in my Volt. So you are doing well! -Steve > On Jun 22, 2020, at 5:18 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > >  >> >> I used to have a Saab 900 Turbo and I was towing a trailer full of tall >> furniture >> at 55 and after

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing ... aaerodynamics

2020-06-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
FWIW the 2nd Gen Volts(2016 and later) get better MPG than 1st gen; 42 mpg in charge sustaining mode vs 37 and they do it using regular gas instead of premium. That plus almost 50% more range in EV mode. Significantly different engine, different transmission and different E-motors. June 22,

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
In what state would that be the case? - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jun 22, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Peter VanDerWal via EV > wrote: > > Chevy actually offers a Class 1 hitch for the bolt, however it states that > it's not for towing but rather for using with a hitch mounted

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread Lawrence Winiarski via EV
Bill Dube ->  Do you mean the solvent is flammable?  UggThat could be a big problem.   Do you know what is used?   Lee Hart ->  I'm sure that would add to the difficulty, but still I would think anything that makes the battery "less" of a batteryand more of a chunk of plastic and foil

Re: [EVDL] Iota DLS-55 on a 96v battery

2020-06-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Matt via EV wrote: Hi All, I have a conversion that used to run a 144v battery (45 x TS 160AH cells). I have replaced the battery with a 96v nominal battery (32 x CALB CA 130Ah cells) and the DC-DC (IOTA DLS-55) seems to be low on output voltage, due to the input voltage being below 130vdc. I

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Chevy actually offers a Class 1 hitch for the bolt, however it states that it's not for towing but rather for using with a hitch mounted Bicycle carrier, etc.

Re: [EVDL] Chevy Bolt EV towing capacity NOT!

2020-06-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Actually, from what I've read, the main limitation of towing has mainly to do with how safe the combination is at highway speeds. Most states do not limit speed when towing so in order to be rated to tow a trailer, a vehicle HAS to be able to do it safely at the highest speed allowed, which in

Re: [EVDL] [External] Re: George's farm truck/van EV project

2020-06-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Toyota has stated that they don't intend to make electric cars anytime in the near future. They claim that hybrids are a better use of battery technology. GM on the other hand has stated that they intend to stop making gas powered cars, suvs and light trucks in the near future (no specific

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread paul dove via EV
Maybe eventually but I think it just burns up all the fuel. It was over 30 minutes ten the the first time and twenty the second time and the fire still wasn’t out. They never actually show the fire out on that Leaf Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 22, 2020, at 1:52 AM, Cor van de Water via EV >

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread Bill Dube via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
The "Triangle of Fire" shows that there are 3 things necessary to sustain a (traditional/house) fire: Fuel, Oxygen and Heat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_triangle Obviously, in a chemical fire this can change but the idea of fire extinguishing stays the same: Remove *ONE* element of the

Re: [EVDL] Car-size fire-blanket smothers EV li-ion fire reignitions

2020-06-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bill Dube via EV wrote: This would work for lead acid, where the electrolyte is water based, but li-ion cells have an organic solvent based electrolyte. An additional problem is that the electrolyte is mostly held in the separators between the plates. Depending on the specific type of