On 31 May 2012, at 21:38, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 18:29, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 29 May 2012, at 22:26, Jason Resch wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/31/2012 1:41 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On May 31, 3:49 pm, John Clarkjohnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
There were reasons behind Lewis Carroll's writings and so what he
wrote was
nonsense not gibberish; I do six impossible things before
breakfast
On 01 Jun 2012, at 00:14, RMahoney wrote:
Following the last couple of weeks of exchange between Craig and John
Clark...
Interesting.
I would say John has the edge.
And I have some comments...
Does a Free Willer believe they willed themselves into existence in
this Universe?
Some can
On Thu, May 31, 2012 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Look up 'teleology'.
Why? I already know it means things happen for a purpose, although it is
never made clear who's purpose were talking about or what his purpose is
supposed to be. One thing is clear, they had a purpose for a reason
On 6/1/2012 7:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 21:38, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 18:29, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Bruno Marchal
On 6/1/2012 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/31/2012 1:41 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On May 31, 3:49 pm, John Clarkjohnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
There were reasons behind Lewis Carroll's writings and so what he wrote was
nonsense not gibberish; I
On 01 Jun 2012, at 19:09, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/1/2012 7:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 21:38, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 18:29, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:27 AM,
On 01.06.2012 19:19 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/1/2012 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 May 2012, at 23:12, meekerdb wrote:
...
Sam Harris just wrote a short book titled Free Will and from
the comments it has elicited it's apparent that there is very
little agreement as to what it
On 6/1/2012 8:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
They seem to think this free will has some ability to manipulate the
Universe in ways that avoid it's laws.
Not the compatibilist one. I think free will is not prevented at all by determinism.
It just boils down to how you want to define 'free
On 6/1/2012 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
You might be disturbed by the fact that in experience 2, the original remains the
same person, so we don't count him as a new person, each time he steps in the box.
This, in my opinion, illustrates again that we have to use RSSA instead of ASSA.
On May 31, 6:14 pm, RMahoney rmaho...@poteau.com wrote:
Following the last couple of weeks of exchange between Craig and John
Clark...
Interesting.
I would say John has the edge.
And I have some comments...
Does a Free Willer believe they willed themselves into existence in
this
Cannot comment, don't know what ASCII string free will means and neither
do you.
John K Clark
Of course there are various degrees to which it can be free but that
doesn't mean free will is a meaningless string. Freedom is defined by
the observer. I note the freedom I have in choosing
On 6/1/2012 8:59 AM, John Clark wrote:
Believers in 'contra causal free will' suppose that it did not, that my
'soul' or
'spirit' initiated the physical process without any determinative physical
antecedent.
A belief that was enormously popular during the dark ages and led to a
On 6/1/2012 11:43 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote:
Cannot comment, don't know what ASCII string free will means and neither
do you.
John K Clark
Of course there are various degrees to which it can be free but that doesn't mean free
will is a meaningless string. Freedom is defined by
The fact that free will is debated lends credence to the notion that Free
will is not meaningless. Free will has to mean something before it can
be attacked.
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/1/2012 11:43 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote:
Cannot comment,
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 Brian Tenneson tenn...@gmail.com wrote:
Freedom is defined by the observer.
Exactly! A man is walking down a road and spots a fork in the road far
ahead. He knows of advantages and disadvantages to both paths so he isn't
sure if he will go right or left, he hadn't decided.
Does a Free Willer believe they willed themselves into existence in
this Universe?
Some can believe that. Open question in comp. Actually this universe
is a quite vague concept with comp.
Don't know comp. As far as I'm concerned, universe can be everything,
all permutations.
I don't
On Jun 1, 12:27 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/1/2012 8:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
They seem to think this free will has some ability to manipulate the
Universe in ways that avoid it's laws.
Not the compatibilist one. I think free will is not prevented at all by
On Jun 1, 1:31 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 31, 6:14 pm, RMahoney rmaho...@poteau.com wrote:
They seem to think this free will has some ability to manipulate the
Universe in ways that avoid it's laws.
Free will is one of the laws of the universe. We are made of
On Jun 1, 7:07 pm, RMahoney rmaho...@poteau.com wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:31 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 31, 6:14 pm, RMahoney rmaho...@poteau.com wrote:
They seem to think this free will has some ability to manipulate the
Universe in ways that avoid it's laws.
On 01.06.2012 20:48 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/1/2012 8:59 AM, John Clark wrote:
Believers in 'contra causal free will' suppose that it did not,
that
my 'soul' or 'spirit' initiated the physical process without any
determinative physical antecedent.
A belief that was enormously
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