Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
com>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/9/2021 5:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark >>>> <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> &g

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-10 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc=7s> John K Clark My comment there: << Why to assume even one universe? We know since the 1930s that all models of elementary arithmetic execute all computations, and that no un

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
--Original Message- > From: Bruno Marchal > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 8:29 am > Subject: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > > >> On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark > <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >&

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 9 Mar 2021, at 20:06, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 3/9/2021 5:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark >> <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Parall

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
? Middle Earth? A grand Platonic computer performing a power-on and self test?  -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 8:29 am Subject: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark wrote

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/9/2021 5:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc=7s> John K Clark My comment there: << Why to assume even

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-03-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 20:27, John Clark wrote: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc=7s> > > John K Clark My comment there: << Why to assume even one universe? We know since the 1930s that all models of

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-15 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 7:55:21 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > It's not very hard to see the error. If you assume an electron, or > whatever, is a particle -- meaning localized in space -- it's going to be > impossible to model it as going through both slits. But if you use >

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-15 Thread Alan Grayson
It's not very hard to see the error. If you assume an electron, or whatever, is a particle -- meaning localized in space -- it's going to be impossible to model it as going through both slits. But if you use DeBroglie's insight and assume it ravels as a wave before detection, you're relieved

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread Alan Grayson
As expected; no substance. Have you heard? Trump was acquitted. He had nothing to do with the Capitol events on Jan 6. LOL. AG On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 4:21:56 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:52 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, February 14, 2021

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 5:52 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 3:47:04 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > >> Not intending to insult, but overall your response is an good example of >> Trump Physics. > > Not intending to insult, but you sir are an ass. John K Clark

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 3:47:04 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > Not intending to insult, but overall your response is an good example of > Trump Physics. For example, you discuss measuring spin, Up or Dn, while > denying you know what measurement is. You claim AG can be observed in X

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread Alan Grayson
Not intending to insult, but overall your response is an good example of Trump Physics. For example, you discuss measuring spin, Up or Dn, while denying you know what measurement is. You claim AG can be observed in X or Y by copies of AG, by a wave which by definition has no definite location.

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread John Clark
On Alan Grayson wrote: *> Prior to the discovery of the HUP it was believed that unlimited > precision of initial conditions was possible, depending only on the advance > of technology. Now, with the HUP, we know this is not the case.* > You don't need infinite precision to state that an

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-14 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 6:05:28 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 10:35:27 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> > >you fail to understand HUP. AG >>> >>>

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-13 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 10:35:27 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> >>> >you fail to understand HUP. AG >>> >> >> And you fail to understand IHA. >> > > Prior to the discovery of the HUP it was

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-12 Thread smitra
Parallel worlds also exist for another reason. Unless God created the universe right now and will annihilate it right now, the past and the future exist. We say that the past existed in the past tense and that the future will exist in the future tense, but we did not invent these linguistic

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:57:21 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> >> >you fail to understand HUP. AG >> > > And you fail to understand IHA. > Prior to the discovery of the HUP it was believed that unlimited precision of initial conditions was possible, depending only on the

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
> > >> > >you fail to understand HUP. AG > And you fail to understand IHA. >> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis >> >> >> , >> >> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 2:07:27 PM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > >> You keep talking about "probability" but what does that word really >>> mean? >>> >> >> *> In the frequentist theory of probability, the meaning is fairly

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 9:17 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> You keep talking about "probability" but what does that word really >> mean? >> > > *> In the frequentist theory of probability, the meaning is fairly self > evident.* > It's fairly self evident that the Earth cannot be moving around the

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 7:02:53 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:33 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > >> If Many Worlds is correct then every horse can be in every state not >>> forbidden by the laws of physics, that means each horse has a 100% >>> chance of

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:33 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> If Many Worlds is correct then every horse can be in every state not >> forbidden by the laws of physics, that means each horse has a 100% >> chance of winning and a 100% chance of losing from the Multiverse point of >> view. >> > > *> That

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 6:37:02 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:03 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> My IQ was measured at 146. But as my mother never tired of reminding >> me; my sister had a higher IQ; 156.* >> > > Was your sister also a Carl Sagan

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:03 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> My IQ was measured at 146. But as my mother never tired of reminding me; > my sister had a higher IQ; 156.* > Was your sister also a Carl Sagan co-author? > *I demonstrated it by making the simple observation that no observer or > system

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 4:43:17 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:39 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> Maybe we can agree on one thing; that the video presenter is mistaken >> to assert that in a superposition, the system is in ALL component states of >>

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 4:43:17 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:39 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> Maybe we can agree on one thing; that the video presenter is mistaken >> to assert that in a superposition, the system is in ALL component states of >>

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:39 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Maybe we can agree on one thing; that the video presenter is mistaken to > assert that in a superposition, the system is in ALL component states of > the sum simultaneously. It's analogous to the horse race thought > experiment, where each

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 9:12 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > *Another triumph for Trump physics.* >>> >> >> *>> WOW*, comparing someone known for disliking Trump to Trump, never >> heard that one before! Well... actually I have maybe it's time to >> dream up a new insult, that one is getting a bit

Re: FW: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-7 medinuclear wrote: > *From:* 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > *Sent:* Monday, February 8, 2021 4:05 PM *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > > *[

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-11 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 7:11:58 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:33:23 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:18 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *>>> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 5:33:23 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:18 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *>>> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement.

FW: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread Philip Benjamin
From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 4:05 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [Philip Benjamin] There

RE: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread Philip Benjamin
[Philip Benjamin] Trump Physics? What is that? A particle in motion may behave LIKE wave. Is there a wave that behaves like particle? If it does it is a particle of negligible or unobservable or unmeasurable mass. The entire CONUNDRUMS of modern physics are pure imaginative solutions that

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:18 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *>>> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no >>> pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement. >>> Otherwise local realism would be confirmed, instead of failing. AG * >>> >> >> >> And

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 1:05:56 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:55 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no >> pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement. >>

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-10 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:55 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> But I DO have evidence and so do you; Bell experiments! They show no > pre-existing property, or value, or state exists before the measurement. > Otherwise local realism would be confirmed, instead of failing. AG * > And that is consistent

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/9/2021 7:55 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: Hilbert space is a kind of vector space.  Vectors can always be expressed in terms of different basis vectors. *I've refreshed my understanding of Hilbert spaces. So, if you really believe your second sentence above, doesn't it make the idea

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 11:31:31 AM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 2/9/2021 2:46 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:13:37 AM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/8/2021 9:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:22:29 PM UTC-7

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/9/2021 2:46 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:13:37 AM UTC-7 Brent wrote: On 2/8/2021 9:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:22:29 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: On 2/8/2021 7:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: *More

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Alan Grayson
become the most powerful Fourth > Estate—the King Maker of today. > > * Philip Benjamin * > > > > 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Monday, > February 8, 2021 4:05 PM *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why On 2/8/2021

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 6:18:54 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:56 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *>>> Consider a system with two possible states with probabilities 30% and 70% before measurement.* >>> >>> >> OK, then if there were 10 observers 3

RE: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Philip Benjamin
ct: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why On 2/8/2021 12:40 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:25:47 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 P

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 5:56 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *>>> Consider a system with two possible states with probabilities 30% and >>> 70% before measurement.* >>> >> >> >> OK, then if there were 10 observers 3 would see X and 7 would see Y. >> > > *> I said BEFORE MEASUREMENT! AG* > What about

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 3:09:33 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 7:12 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> Consider a system with two possible states with probabilities 30% and >> 70% before measurement.* >> > > OK, then if there were 10 observers 3 would see X and

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread Alan Grayson
On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:13:37 AM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 2/8/2021 9:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:22:29 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/8/2021 7:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *More important, I don't think your comment relates to

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-09 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 7:12 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> Consider a system with two possible states with probabilities 30% and > 70% before measurement.* > OK, then if there were 10 observers 3 would see X and 7 would see Y. > *> I would agree that the system is in both states simultaneously IF

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/8/2021 9:31 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:22:29 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: On 2/8/2021 7:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: *More important, I don't think your comment relates to what I wrote immediately above in RED -- which is consistent with

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:22:29 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 2/8/2021 7:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > *More important, I don't think your comment relates to what I wrote >> immediately above in RED -- which is consistent with Bohr's view that a >> system is NOT in any specific

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/8/2021 7:50 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: *More important, I don't think your comment relates to what I wrote immediately above in RED -- which is consistent with Bohr's view that a system is NOT in any specific eigenstate before measurement* I don't know the quote from

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 3:05:02 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 2/8/2021 12:40 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:25:47 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread smitra
/watch?t=1418=EtyNMlXN-sw TY. I'll try to view this. AG Saibal On 06-02-2021 20:27, John Clark wrote: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [1] John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubs

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/8/2021 12:40 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:25:47 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 PM Alan Grayson

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:25:47 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 1:25:47 PM UTC-7 Brent wrote: > > > On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> A hydroelectric dam producing

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 2/8/2021 4:12 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> A hydroelectric dam producing electricity and the accelerating expansion of the universe

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Bruno Marchal
e as a confirmation of the many computations which are realised in Arithmetic, as logicians knows since the 1930s. Bruno > > > On 06-02-2021 20:27, John Clark wrote: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [1] > > > > John K Clark > > > > --

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 4:13:38 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > > >> A hydroelectric dam producing electricity and the accelerating >>> expansion of the universe caused by the intrinsic energy of empty space, >>> both convert

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-08 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:25 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> A hydroelectric dam producing electricity and the accelerating expansion >> of the universe caused by the intrinsic energy of empty space, both >> convert negative gravitational potential energy into positive kinetic >> energy that can do

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread Alan Grayson
> See also this experiment that demonstrates this in a much simpler way > than using Bell inequalities: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1418=EtyNMlXN-sw TY. I'll try to view this. AG > > > Saibal > > > > > > > > > > >> On 06-02-

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread smitra
lel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [1] John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 9:08:58 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 8:43 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > > >> > that argument was semi-respectable when weird quantum effects first >>> started to show up around the turn of the 20th century but has not been >>>

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 8:43 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > that argument was semi-respectable when weird quantum effects first >> started to show up around the turn of the 20th century but has not been >> respected among physicists for more than 50 years. Your explanation is >> rejected because it

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Le dim. 7 févr. 2021 à 14:43, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:42:26 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *> At around 5:15 he makes the fundamental error IMO in describing >>> superposition; namely, that a

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 6:43:25 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:42:26 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *> At around 5:15 he makes the fundamental error IMO in describing >>> superposition;

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread Alan Grayson
On Sunday, February 7, 2021 at 4:42:26 AM UTC-7 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > *> At around 5:15 he makes the fundamental error IMO in describing >> superposition; namely, that a system can be in different states >> simultaneously. It's the

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-07 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> At around 5:15 he makes the fundamental error IMO in describing > superposition; namely, that a system can be in different states > simultaneously. It's the myth about QM which is hard to shake. Why not just > assume an ignorance

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-06 Thread Alan Grayson
don't know which one? I don't see this as an inherent denial of interference, which I think is why this interpretation is rejected. AG > > > On 06-02-2021 20:27, John Clark wrote: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [1] > > > > John K Clark > > > &

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-06 Thread smitra
That's a good explanation. As pointed out in the video, there is really only one wavefunction, which is the wavefunction of the entire universe. On 06-02-2021 20:27, John Clark wrote: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why [1] John K Clark -- You received this message because you

Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2021-02-06 Thread John Clark
Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc=7s> John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-08 Thread Alan Grayson
an Grayson > > To: Everything List > > Sent: Sat, Mar 7, 2020 6:29 pm > Subject: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > > > > On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 4:17:34 PM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: > &g

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
You must be a fan of Kurt Godel than? He was big time into a spinning cosmos, and yeah, a 7 sphere.  -Original Message- From: Alan Grayson To: Everything List Sent: Sat, Mar 7, 2020 6:29 pm Subject: Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 4:17:34

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 10:17 AM John Clark wrote: >> >>> This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: >>> >>> Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> >>> >>> John K

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 4:17:34 PM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> > > John K Clark > As you know, I belie

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
lel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> John K Clark Impressive graphics, but the same oldsame old Bruce You might find this interview of Sean Carroll more interesting.  He's aware of the problems

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 8:50 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > *The Schrödinger equation is just a neural network.* Just?! You're a neural network too, and some neural networks, like some equations, can predict what a physical system will do with 14 digits of precision, and some can't. John K Clark

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 6:45:38 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:10 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > >>"The most elegant interpretation of quantum mechanics is the universe >>> is constantly splitting." >> >> >> *> A joke, right?* >> > > Yes if you think the

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 6:45:38 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:10 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > >>"The most elegant interpretation of quantum mechanics is the universe >>> is constantly splitting." >> >> >> *> A joke, right?* >> > > Yes if you think the

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:10 AM Philip Thrift wrote: >>"The most elegant interpretation of quantum mechanics is the universe is >> constantly splitting." > > > *> A joke, right?* > Yes if you think the Schrodinger equation meaning what it says is funny. Personally I wouldn't consider that to be

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Philip Thrift
"The most elegant interpretation of quantum mechanics is the universe is constantly splitting." A joke, right? @philipthrift On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 5:17:34 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: > > Parallel

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 7:51:10 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 3/6/2020 3:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 10:17 AM John Clark > wrote: > >> This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: >> >> Parallel Wo

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
t: >> >> Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> >> >> John K Clark >> > > Impressive graphics, but the same oldsame old > > Bruce > > > You might find this interview of Sean Carr

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-06 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/6/2020 3:55 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 10:17 AM John Clark <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote: This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc&

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-06 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 5:17:34 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> > > John K Clark > MWI has its advan

Re: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 10:17 AM John Clark wrote: > This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: > > Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> > > John K Clark > Impressive graphics, but the same olds

Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why

2020-03-06 Thread John Clark
This video just went online, I thought it was excellent: Parallel Worlds Probably Exist. Here’s Why <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTPe3wahc> John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe