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t; -- > *From:* meekerdb > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 4:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum > theory to dialectics? > > On 1/5/2015 3:50 PM, LizR wrote: > &

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From: meekerdb To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 1/5/2015 3:50 PM, LizR wrote: Eternal inflation seems to assume there is something because

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On 1/5/2015 3:50 PM, LizR wrote: Eternal inflation seems to assume there is something because "there has always been something". However if so, it sidesteps the underlying issue - why is there this (eternal) something? The question itself - and any attempted answer - can't be answered causally.

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Eternal inflation seems to assume there is something because "there has always been something". However if so, it sidesteps the underlying issue - why is there this (eternal) something? The question itself - and any attempted answer - can't be answered causally. -- You received this message becau

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On 1/5/2015 11:24 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb *Sent:* Monday, January 05, 2015 10:55 AM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Why is there

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:55 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 1/5/2015 1

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On 1/5/2015 1:07 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: 0={0} and then onward to: 0={0}= {0}+{0} = {{0}, {0}+{0}} etc. There's your problem: "etc" Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this

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On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 Russell Standish wrote: > My personal opinion is that measured values are constrained to be > rational If that is true (and it may be) and if mathematics is a language and the irrational numbers play no role in physics then perhaps they are a fantasy, the equivalent of a Ha

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-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 11:38 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to

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erything there is* then even if this is an empty set, by virtue of a set being something – a conceptual entity – then even the absolutely empty universal set {} exists as a conceptual entity at least. Is that a fair recap of your intent; or am I off the mark? -Chris On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:17:27 AM

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On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 02:10:51PM -0800, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: > > > > Russell’s observation that “The ultimate theory of everything is just a > theory of nothing.” seems intuitively correct to me… though I have no > rigorous proof for this sense of it ringing true

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n even if this is an empty set, by virtue of a set being something – a > conceptual entity – then even the absolutely empty universal set {} exists > as a conceptual entity at least. > > Is that a fair recap of your intent; or am I off the mark? > > -Chris > > On Satu

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mysterious and strange.” From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 11:27 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics

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everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:17 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: If everything exists, what doesn't exist? Nothing. If nothing ex

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glegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kim Jones > *Sent:* Sunday, January 04, 2015 1:09 AM > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum > theory to dialectics? > > > > > > > > > > > On

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kim Jones Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 1:09 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 3

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On 1/4/2015 1:09 AM, Kim Jones wrote: On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:17 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote: If everything exists, what doesn't exist? Nothing. If nothing existed; would it remain nothing? -Chris Brent You are both missing

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On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > Careful not confusing "Nothing exists" and "Nothing exist". In the first > case, something exists. But not necessarily in the second case > If "nothing" means no-thing, and that is certainly how that English word originated, then the meani

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On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 'Roger' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems > important to know why everything exists. > Even if the word "klogknee" has no use because everything is klogknee, is it importan

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> On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:17 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > wrote: > > If everything exists, what doesn't exist? Nothing. > > > > If nothing existed; would it remain nothing? > > -Chris > > Brent > You are both missing the main question: what was there before there was

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glegroups.com [mailto:everyth...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:44 PM To: everyth...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 1/2/2015 9:05 PM, 'Roger' via Everything

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 7:59 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 03

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There is no such thing as the lack of all existent entities. On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:17:27 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote: > > > > > > *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everyth...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb > *Sent:* Friday, January 02,

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On 03 Jan 2015, at 07:17, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:44 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there

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Logical positivism in the hard form has been abandoned in favor of a dozen derivations, but it is a tactical withdrawal in order to protect the central dogmas: the antimetaphysical standpoint, the acritical adoration of science understood in the very narrow sense of today. The negation of innate kn

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From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:44 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 1/2/2015 9

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On 1/2/2015 9:05 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote: Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems important to know why everything exists. How is it that a thing can exist? What I suggest is that a grouping defining what is contained within is an existent entity.

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Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems important to know why everything exists. How is it that a thing can exist? What I suggest is that a grouping defining what is contained within is an existent entity. Then, you can use this to try and answer the other qu

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On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 11:36 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> propose that a thing exists if it is a grouping or relationship present >>> defining what is contained within. >>> >> >> >> If nothing is contained within then that is very well defined, >>

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John, Hi. What I was trying to get at is that the most fundamental unit of existence and the most fundamental instantiation of the word exists is the existent entity that is, I think, incorrectly called the "absolute lack-of-all". That is when you say "therefore nothing exists", what I me

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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:56 AM, 'Roger' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I propose that a thing exists if it is a grouping or relationship present > defining what is contained within. > If nothing is contained within then that is very well defined, therefore noth

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On 17 Nov 2014, at 16:25, Peter Sas wrote: Here is a new blog piece I wrote: http://critique-of-pure-interest.blogspot.nl/2014/11/the-inconsistency-of-nothing-objective_17.html OK. I print the quite clear and well written introduction of your article: Peter Sas wrote in his blog: << In

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On 15 Dec 2014, at 11:22, Alberto G. Corona wrote: You are projecting metaphisical differences into physical forces at the last steps. That does not make sense IMHO. The New Agers do the opposite. I think that this is an error typical of people with no education in physics and technology

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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Peter Sas wrote: > > First my apologies to you and Brent for the mix up. I'm new to this > wonderful forum, and the format still disorients me a bit... > > which is why the universe exists in the first place, that is, it is not >> nothing (= ontological difference)

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Peter, Hi. I used to post here a long time ago, but thought I'd try it again. I agree with your post that to answer the question "Why is there something rather than nothing?", we have to start with the supposed "absolute lack-of-all" and can't presuppose the laws of math, etc. I also

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You are projecting metaphisical differences into physical forces at the last steps. That does not make sense IMHO. The New Agers do the opposite. I think that this is an error typical of people with no education in physics and technology that are overexposed to scientific-tecnical terms. Your met

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What about a prophecy? Does that exist? Should I take the red pill or the blue pill? Kim > On 15 Dec 2014, at 4:56 pm, 'Roger' via Everything List > wrote: > > Peter, > > Hi. I've read parts of a few of your blog posts and found them very > interesting and highly recommend them to othe

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Peter, Hi. I've read parts of a few of your blog posts and found them very interesting and highly recommend them to others. To build on this thread of "Why is there something rather than nothing?", I'd like to throw out some related ideas. I used to post here more often with this, bu

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Here is a new blog piece I wrote: http://critique-of-pure-interest.blogspot.nl/2014/11/the-inconsistency-of-nothing-objective_17.html Here I use some of the tools of analytical philosophy to analyze the logical impossibility of nothinness... For the philosophically inclined among you... Peter

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Hi Peter, On 01 Nov 2014, at 12:25, Peter Sas wrote: I would like to let you know that I read two of your papers, which I found very interesting (even if the technical bits are a bit beyond me), but that I can't respond right now, since we are in the middle of moving to a new house. I will

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Hi Bruno, I would like to let you know that I read two of your papers, which I found very interesting (even if the technical bits are a bit beyond me), but that I can't respond right now, since we are in the middle of moving to a new house. I will get back in touch with you later to discuss mac

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On 29 Oct 2014, at 09:04, Peter Sas wrote: I wonder if you know the work of the French philosopher Badiou. There is a big mixture of good things and bad things, and eventually I am not convinced. He has built an entire ontology on set theory, taking the empty set (or the void as drama

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I agree with you about Derrida & so on. I bought quite a few of their books in the 80s ("10,000 plateaus" & so on) and (fairly) rapidly worked out that they were talking complete rubbish (even without help from Alain Sokal...) I'm quite pleased to say. On 29 October 2014 21:04, Peter Sas wrote:

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I wonder if you know the work of the French philosopher Badiou. He has built an entire ontology on set theory, taking the empty set (or the void as dramatically calls it) as his most fundamental concept. He takes over the Von Neumann derivation of math in terms of set theory and then adopts a k

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On 28 Oct 2014, at 09:25, Peter Sas wrote: First my apologies to you and Brent for the mix up. I'm new to this wonderful forum, and the format still disorients me a bit... No problem. which is why the universe exists in the first place, that is, it is not nothing (= ontological differe

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ose humans cost a lot (in instruments), we might be better without them. It is relative. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 09:48 AM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

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First my apologies to you and Brent for the mix up. I'm new to this wonderful forum, and the format still disorients me a bit... which is why the universe exists in the first place, that is, it is not > nothing (= ontological difference). > > You wrote: That looks like a play with word, which d

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John Clark wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Bruce Kellett mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote: >>> it expands for ever even though closed). So you can never see the back of your own head. >> Obviously if it expands forever you could never see the bac

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nd of timeless to me, but I haven't really studied it as it should be studied. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 09:52 AM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 2

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lity to do something with it. Back to the CAD application, as they say. -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 09:48 AM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 26 Oct 2014

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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> it expands for ever even though closed). So you can never see the >> back of your own head. >> >> >> Obviously if it expands forever you could never see the back of your >> head, and our universe is not only expanding its accelerati

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Hi Peter, You are replying to my post (I am Bruno, not Brent, although I am open that we are all the same person, it is better to keep the name right for helping in future references) On 26 Oct 2014, at 17:52, Peter Sas wrote: Thanks for your comments, which are very useful, even if the

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--Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 05:32 PM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Mind you as some people like to point out, we know GR is wrong... -- You received this message because you are sub

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) showed that [QM is non linear, but approximatively correct] is equivament with QM worlds can interact. Bruno -Original Message- From: Bruno Marchal To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 10:13 am Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum

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Ok Hawkings old sales pitch! Thanks. It's (generally :-) assumed -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Oct 27, 2014 6:09 am Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 27 October 2014

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On 27 October 2014 15:09, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Since when is general relativity, wrong? What news did I miss? > > It's (generally :-) assumed to break down in the vicinity of (what would otherwise be) singulariti

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John Clark wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 Bruce Kellett > wrote: >If there is more that a very small amount of dark energy, then a beam of light can never get right round the universe (the universe does not re-contract in that case OK. >it exp

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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 Bruce Kellett wrote: >If there is more that a very small amount of dark energy, then a beam of > light can never get right round the universe (the universe does not > re-contract in that case > OK. > >it expands for ever even though closed). So you can never see the back

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John Clark wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Bruce Kellett > he [Krauss] appears to have overlooked the simple fact that in a closed universe, light cannot go right round and back to the starting point before the universe re-contracts to zero size. You appear to have overloo

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-list Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 05:55 PM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Bruce Kellett > the claims about the zero net energy of the universe made by people

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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Since when is general relativity, wrong? What news did I miss? -Original Message- From: LizR To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 05:32 PM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Mind you as

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On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:35 AM, Bruce Kellett > > he [Krauss] appears to have overlooked the simple fact that in a closed > universe, light cannot go right round and back to the starting point before > the universe re-contracts to zero size. You appear to have overlooked the simple fact that i

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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Bruce Kellett > the claims about the zero net energy of the universe made by people such > as Hawking and Krauss in popular presentations are wrong. The interesting > question is why undoubtedly clever people such as Krauss and Hawking would > make such fallacious

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Mind you as some people like to point out, we know GR is wrong... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

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From: Bruce Kellett To: everything-list Sent: Sun, Oct 26, 2014 1:35 am Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? I am with you that generally Krauss does a good job of popularizations of cosmology and so on. He is generally quite careful and acc

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Hi Brent, Thanks for your comments, which are very useful, even if the more technical comments are beyond me (I have to study up on that). Thanks for the tip about category theory, I vaguely heard about it... I know it is a rival to set theory when it comes to founding math (insofar that is pos

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is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:35, Peter Sas wrote: Hi Brent, On my account, beings (i.e. all things that are) lack intrinsic qualities because they are defined through their differences from each other. I guess you

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On 24 Oct 2014, at 19:35, Peter Sas wrote: Hi Brent, On my account, beings (i.e. all things that are) lack intrinsic qualities because they are defined through their differences from each other. I guess you love category theory, which is mathematics based on that idea. It is also a qui

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I am with you that generally Krauss does a good job of popularizations of cosmology and so on. He is generally quite careful and accurate in his book "A Universe from Nothing", except on page 166, where he says "There is one universe in which the total energy is definitely and precisely zero..

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, Oct 25, 2014 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics? Bruce is a very good physicist and he's right. John Baez has a good discussion of the point on his blog. Brent On 10/25/2014 7:51 AM, Terren Suydam

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Bruce is a very good physicist and he's right. John Baez has a good discussion of the point on his blog. Brent On 10/25/2014 7:51 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: I find this quite surprising too and wonder if Brent could weigh in as I'm out of my league on that stuff. Terren On Oct 25, 2014 12:

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I find this quite surprising too and wonder if Brent could weigh in as I'm out of my league on that stuff. Terren On Oct 25, 2014 12:23 AM, "Peter Sas" wrote: > Wow... That's quite shocking! I see I have to be much more careful in > taking over what the pop science writers say... > > Unfortunate

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Wow... That's quite shocking! I see I have to be much more careful in taking over what the pop science writers say... Unfortunately, physics is a subject where the text books tend to carry > more weight than the popular presentations. The text books show that the > claims about the zero net

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Peter Sas wrote: Hi Bruce, Thanks for your explanation, but I'm afraid it doesn't really help me. The main reason is no doubt my own stupidity, since most of what you say goes over my head. I understand some physics, but it must be explained to me in non-mathematical terms, otherwise I don't

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Hi Bruce, Thanks for your explanation, but I'm afraid it doesn't really help me. The main reason is no doubt my own stupidity, since most of what you say goes over my head. I understand some physics, but it must be explained to me in non-mathematical terms, otherwise I don't get (I have asperg

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Hi Brent, On my account, beings (i.e. all things that are) lack intrinsic qualities because they are defined through their differences from each other. Thus a being is what it is simply by not being something else. So in themselves, abstracted from their relations to other beings, beings 'are'

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Peter Sas wrote: Hi Richard, I must stress that this is all new territory for me, but what I gather from the things I've read so far is that dark energy is a form of positive energy balanced by the negative energy of gravity. So here too some kind of polarity seems to hold. The point is that

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On 10/23/2014 12:50 AM, Peter Sas wrote: Well, I'm not a physicists but a philosopher, so I cannot give a physicist's answer. My approach is to start with the most fundamental question (Why is there anything at all?) and then see how far we can get with pure logic alone. It is of course very, ve

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Hi Richard, I must stress that this is all new territory for me, but what I gather from the things I've read so far is that dark energy is a form of positive energy balanced by the negative energy of gravity. So here too some kind of polarity seems to hold. The point is that as space expands, d

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On 23 Oct 2014, at 05:34, LizR wrote: IMHO this slightly understates the problem of an infinite causal chain: The idea of an eternally existing universe - for example in the form of an eternal cycle of Big Bangs - might turn out to be a scientifically legitimate hypothesis. It might even t

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On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:50 AM, Peter Sas wrote: > Well, I'm not a physicists but a philosopher, so I cannot give a > physicist's answer. My approach is to start with the most fundamental > question (Why is there anything at all?) and then see how far we can get > with pure logic alone. It is of

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Well, I'm not a physicists but a philosopher, so I cannot give a physicist's answer. My approach is to start with the most fundamental question (Why is there anything at all?) and then see how far we can get with pure logic alone. It is of course very, very tricky to try to derive fundamental l

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PS apologies if you get onto that later. On 23 October 2014 16:34, LizR wrote: > IMHO this slightly understates the problem of an infinite causal chain: > > The idea of an eternally existing universe – for example in the form of an > eternal cycle of Big Bangs – might turn out to be a scientific

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IMHO this slightly understates the problem of an infinite causal chain: The idea of an eternally existing universe – for example in the form of an eternal cycle of Big Bangs – might turn out to be a scientifically legitimate hypothesis. It might even turn out to be true. But it still doesn't answe

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As long as you're sure there *is* something, rather than nothing... anyway I will have a look, as usual when I have time. On 23 October 2014 06:09, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:33, meekerdb wrote: > > On 10/22/2014 1:33 AM, Peter Sas wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Here is a bl

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On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:33, meekerdb wrote: On 10/22/2014 1:33 AM, Peter Sas wrote: Hi guys, Here is a blog piece I wrote about nothing as the ultimate source of being: http://critique-of-pure-interest.blogspot.nl/2014/09/why-is-there-something-rather-than.html I think you are too quick h

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On 10/22/2014 1:33 AM, Peter Sas wrote: Hi guys, Here is a blog piece I wrote about nothing as the ultimate source of being: http://critique-of-pure-interest.blogspot.nl/2014/09/why-is-there-something-rather-than.html I think you are too quick here: "It seems the subjective interpretation ca

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Peter, Could you elaborate on how Dark Energy fits into your thesis? Richard On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:33 AM, Peter Sas wrote: > Hi guys, > > Here is a blog piece I wrote about nothing as the ultimate source of being: > > > http://critique-of-pure-interest.blogspot.nl/2014/09/why-is-there-somet

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

t easy now. > > Cheers > Colin > > > > -Original Message- > From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: > everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen P. King > Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 12:05 AM > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Su

RE: Why is there something rather than nothing?

Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen P. King Sent: Friday, 18 May 2012 12:05 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? On 5/17/2012 8:42 AM, ronal

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

On 5/17/2012 8:42 AM, ronaldheld wrote: arXiv:1205.2720 [pdf] Title: Why there is something rather than nothing: The finite, infinite and eternal Authors: Peter Lynds Hi Ronald, Thank you for posting this reference. After reading the paper I find that I agree with it 100% but would point o

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

arXiv:1205.2720 [pdf] Title: Why there is something rather than nothing: The finite, infinite and eternal Authors: Peter Lynds Ronald On May 15, 5:33 pm, John Mikes wrote: > Brent: > did I say . > "I am *conscious of infinite complexity???" > *If so, I used the word in a different meaning: like

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

Brent: did I say . "I am *conscious of infinite complexity???" *If so, I used the word in a different meaning: like I know about. Or better: I think I know about. (Belief system). I explained several times that said infinite comp[lex system is beyond our knowability although we are part of it with

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

On 5/14/2012 1:58 PM, John Mikes wrote: Qualia aspect? Please consider my 'rigid' agnostic stance with all those unknowable aspects playing into - what you so succinctly call: 'qualia' - I struggled for a long time to boil down my MOST GENERALIZED definition for something that would cover what

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

Qualia aspect? Please consider my 'rigid' agnostic stance with all those unknowable aspects playing into - what you so succinctly call: 'qualia' - I struggled for a long time to boil down my MOST GENERALIZED definition for something that would cover what many of us (?) call consciousness. I don't w

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

On 12 May 2012, at 22:51, John Mikes wrote: Pure non-consciousness? that would approach the 'pure(?) nothingness' - even in my generalized definition of Ccness: "response to relations" leaving open he definition of a response and of relations. Otherwise it is perfect. But 'response to re

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

Pure non-consciousness? that would approach the 'pure(?) nothingness' - even in my generalized definition of Ccness: "response to relations" leaving open he definition of a response and of relations. Otherwise it is perfect. RESPONSE came in as a concoction from "acknowledgement of and response to

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

On 10 May 2012, at 21:09, John Mikes wrote: Bruno and Ricardo: ...unless you remove the "boundries" as well - I think. That would end up for "nothing" with a POINT, which is still a point and not nothing. (If you eliminate the point???) John M I think we agree John. Pure nothingness make

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

Bruno and Ricardo: ...unless you remove the "boundries" as well - I think. That would end up for "nothing" with a POINT, which is still a point and not nothing. (If you eliminate the point???) John M On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 09 May 2012, at 21:39, R AM wrote

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

On 09 May 2012, at 21:39, R AM wrote: On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 May 2012, at 17:09, R AM wrote: "nothing" could also be obtained by removing the curly brackets from the empty set {}. N... Some bit of blank remains. If it was written on hemp, yo

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