If there is an entity that remembers being me at time t1 then the me
at time t1 survives. For example, if I fall asleep on a plane and wake
up on another continent 8 hrs later, I have survived despite the time
and space gap and despite the fact that the matter in metabolically
active parts of my
On 9/26/2013 10:25 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27 September 2013 13:30, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 8:02 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27 September 2013 12:52, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 7:48 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:49:29 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 6:17:04 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes
On 26 Sep 2013, at 14:40, Richard Ruquist wrote:
If so then the cosmos is not rich enough to derive people.
Why would this follow?
I have to reject comp on that basis for the cosmos existed long
before people.
Locally, it existed long before the human people.
Globally, there is no
Hello Chris,
On 27 Sep 2013, at 01:51, chris peck wrote:
Hi
Well Im sure that I am missing something important, but I can't see
it so far...
The diary is the one that you have with you. You will not have two
diaries, since you cannot experience being in Moscow and Wsahington at
the same
On Friday, September 27, 2013 9:47:57 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 26 Sep 2013, at 14:57, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Not at all. The prediction must be based on the precise math of
number's imagination.
But how could flavor be predicted by any math? What would be the
On 27 Sep 2013, at 02:51, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/26/2013 5:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 12:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 4:51 PM, chris peck wrote:
Giving the built-in symmetry of this experiment, if asked before
the experiment about his personal future
On 27 Sep 2013, at 03:20, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/26/2013 6:00 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 12:51, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 5:40 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 12:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 4:51 PM, chris peck wrote:
Giving the
On 26 Sep 2013, at 19:41, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/26/2013 2:12 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
which for a logician are more demanding than the reals, as the
first order theory of the real is NOT Turing complete
Bruno, could point to a pedagogical reference on that?
i deduce it from a Theorem by
On 27 Sep 2013, at 04:48, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27 September 2013 12:34, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 7:15 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27 September 2013 11:03, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 6:05 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
This is a
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You make a big deal about duplicating chambers and what city you end up
in and make all sorts of mystical conclusions from it; but all it comes
down to is the fact that different data streams (like one coming from
Washington and
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago when
you were discussing what a man in Helsinki would experience when undergoing
the duplicator experiment.
Yes.
I seem to recall you thought the man would
2013/9/27 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago when
you were discussing what a man in Helsinki would experience when undergoing
the duplicator experiment.
On 27 September 2013 17:00, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The NDAA bill is equivalent with If you fear me, I will put you
indefinitely in jail.
I confess that I hadn't been giving this issue much attention.
However, I now read the following:
Section 1021 of the NDAA bill of 2012
On 9/26/2013 9:28 PM, LizR wrote:
I'm not sure that it's clear using the contents of consciousness, either. The thing is,
if comp is right then there are definite computational steps that can be talked about,
analysed and so on, but thoughts might be a long way above them. Thoughts may be
On 9/27/2013 10:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Sep 2013, at 04:50, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/26/2013 7:33 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 14:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 9/26/2013 6:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 27 September 2013 13:03,
On 9/27/2013 10:31 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
You make a big deal about duplicating chambers and what city you end
up in
and make all sorts of mystical conclusions from it; but all it comes
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:37 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone who has a problem with Bruno's teleportation thought experiment
should logically have the same problem with the MWI.
No, you are entirely incorrect. The Many World's Interpretation is about
what you can expect to see, and
Hi -
Me doesn't have an I, because me is a materialist.
Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at
http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
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On 27 September 2013 16:08, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote:
If there is an entity that remembers being me at time t1 then the me
at time t1 survives. For example, if I fall asleep on a plane and wake
up on another continent 8 hrs later, I have survived despite the time
and space
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 01:55:40PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago when
you were discussing what a man in Helsinki would experience when undergoing
the duplicator
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
I said that if Russell Standish were duplicated then Russell Standish
would be in Moscow and Washington.
This is only true from the POV of an external observer which is not
Russell Standish
Don't give me that pee
On 28 September 2013 05:54, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:37 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone who has a problem with Bruno's teleportation thought experiment
should logically have the same problem with the MWI.
No, you are entirely incorrect.
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote:
Teleportation thought experiments are also about what you can expect to
see.
And I have no objection to thought experiments of that sort, but Bruno is
not talking about assigning the probability you will see Moscow
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 04:33:15AM +, chris peck wrote:
Hi Russel
Thank goodness Clarcky has the same/similar complaint as me. I think Brent
does too, because he said he had an initial reaction to the step like this
and then offered an analysis of the probabilities to me all of which
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