On 05 Mar 2014, at 01:36, LizR wrote:
On 5 March 2014 04:18, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Good.
To prove that P - Q, you can prove that P ~Q leads to a
contradiction, or you can prove that ~Q leads to ~P.
But it helps a lot if you start from what you want to prove, up to
the
Yeah, we could improve energy efficiency drastically - well, when I say
we some countries have done better than others at this. NZ could do with
lots more cheap double glazing, for example, and insulation. New York
apartment blocks could do to not run on diesel. And so on, and so forth.
But
Jesse,
First I see no conclusion that demonstrates INtransitivity here or any
contradiction that I asked for. Did I miss that?
But that really doesn't matter because second, you are NOT using MY method
because you are using ANOTHER coordinate clock FRAME rather than the frame
views of the
Jesse,
Here's another point for you to ponder:
You claim that all frame views are equally valid. What would you say the
weighted mean of all frame views is? I would suspect that it converges
towards my solution. It is clear from your own analysis that it does
converge to my solution as
Bruno,
Well, I guess for someone who thinks plants love music and that the basic
postulates of arithmetic somehow magically generates the entire universe
including the flow of time, it seems logical to claim that Edgar does't
answer questions without actually counting the number of questions I
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 2:20:01 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Mar 2014, at 19:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:27:58 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Mar 2014, at 21:17, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Why don't we see such a (meta) link
Edgar,
On 05 Mar 2014, at 14:48, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Well, I guess for someone who thinks plants love music and that
the basic postulates of arithmetic somehow magically generates the
entire universe including the flow of time,
Just tell me what you don't understand in the reasoning.
On 05 Mar 2014, at 01:23, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I just downloaded it from Amazon. Let us see what it can teach me? I
won't get to reading it for a couple of days, due to work duties.
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well, its a full article unlike their teaser articles to get us to subscribe.
It has a pdf link to the paper by the scientist. So I am guessing its the real
deal. Will it be pursued? Well, only if those in power see advantage, or
necessity. You know how I see on where we all stand in the world.
Chris, its damned sexy, if it it superabundant, affordable, and gives this even
at 3% efficiency. Look to using molten salt for storing wind and sun power for
nighttime and winter. Heats released for thermionic conversion and we have
electricity all the time. Then there's the infra-read voltaic
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
First I see no conclusion that demonstrates INtransitivity here or any
contradiction that I asked for. Did I miss that?
No, I was just asking if you agreed with those two steps, which show that
different pairs of
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
The biggest energy source we have available in fact is energy efficiency.
I am certainly in favor of energy efficiency, only a fool would not be, but
it is not the solution to our energy problem because when a
On 3/5/14, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Mar 2014, at 01:23, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
I just downloaded it from Amazon. Let us see what it can teach me? I
won't get to reading it for a couple of days, due to work duties.
-Original Message-
From: LizR
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There are over 7 billion people on the planet, never before in the
history of the Earth has a large animal (over 50 pounds) of the same
species been that numerous or even come close to it. To keep all of those
people alive
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Here's another point for you to ponder:
You claim that all frame views are equally valid. What would you say the
weighted mean of all frame views is?
Weighted how? I can't see any weighing that doesn't itself
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:10 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
If no human can check a proof of a theorem, does it really count as
mathematics?
Good question, sometimes I wonder if we're getting close to
Brent was right but the explanation could use some examples to show you
what's happening. The strangeness that you noticed occurs because you're
looking at cases where the proportion is *exactly* 50%.
binopdf(2,4,0.5)=0.375
binopdf(3,6,0.5)=0.3125
binopdf(4,8,0.5)=0.2374
On 05 Mar 2014, at 17:09, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:10 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Telmo Menezes
te...@telmomenezes.com wrote:
If no human can check a proof of a theorem, does it really count
as mathematics?
Jesse,
Yes, you are right. I phrased it incorrectly.
What I meant to say was not that each individual view was somehow weighted,
but that all views considered together would tend to cluster around my
results for any distance and motion difference pairs. In other words there
would be a lot
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Yes, you are right. I phrased it incorrectly.
What I meant to say was not that each individual view was somehow
weighted, but that all views considered together would tend to cluster
around my results for any
Jesse,
Yes, but respectfully, what I'm saying is that your example doesn't
represent my method OR results.
In your example of A and B separated but moving at the same velocity and
direction, and C and D separated but moving at the same velocity and
direction, BUT the two PAIRS moving at
Jesse,
Yes, the views are infinite on several axes, but that can be addressed
simply by enumerating views at standard intervals on those axes. Or you
could equally integrate over the continuous functions.
Considered together simply means you plot the correlation each frame view
(at the
Jesse,
PS: It is well known that accelerations and gravitation are the ONLY causes
that produce real actual age rate changes. These real actual age rate
changes are real and actual because 1. ALL OBSERVERS AGREE on them when
they meet up and check them, and 2.BECAUSE THEY ARE PERMANENT.
On 6 March 2014 04:39, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Chris de Morsella
cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote:
The biggest energy source we have available in fact is energy efficiency.
I am certainly in favor of energy efficiency, only a fool would not be,
On 6 March 2014 09:12, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
PS: It is well known that accelerations and gravitation are the ONLY
causes that produce real actual age rate changes. These real actual age
rate changes are real and actual because 1. ALL OBSERVERS AGREE on them
when they
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:54:25 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
On 3/2/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 13:36, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired like the way that it
is? If its
exhaustion, maybe up a couple of days,
On Monday, March 3, 2014 6:53:16 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 19:53, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:34:33 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 13:36, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired
On 6 March 2014 06:45, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote:
Brent was right but the explanation could use some examples to show you
what's happening. The strangeness that you noticed occurs because you're
looking at cases where the proportion is *exactly* 50%.
binopdf(2,4,0.5)=0.375
On Monday, March 3, 2014 5:48:20 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 Chris de Morsella cdemo...@yahoo.com
javascript:wrote:
With power stations you don't need to worry about the same factors
(energy density etc) but you do need to worry about other things
And one of
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Yes, but respectfully, what I'm saying is that your example doesn't
represent my method OR results.
In your example of A and B separated but moving at the same velocity and
direction, and C and D separated but
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:40:36 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Many thanks, Russell. Many thanks, Kim.
Best,
Bruno
Is it ok to ask why the prize got revoked? Some kind of politics?
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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
Yes, the views are infinite on several axes, but that can be addressed
simply by enumerating views at standard intervals on those axes.
But velocity intervals which are equal when the velocities are defined
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If you have a continuum of inertial frames with velocities ranging from +c
to -c in all possible directions, how are you going to integrate over them?
Isn't there a measure problem over an uncountably infinite set?
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On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jesse,
PS: It is well known that accelerations and gravitation are the ONLY
causes that produce real actual age rate changes. These real actual age
rate changes are real and actual because 1. ALL OBSERVERS AGREE on them
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 8:54:25 PM UTC, Brent wrote:
On 3/2/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 13:36, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired like the way that it
is? If its
exhaustion, maybe up a couple of days,
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have a continuum of inertial frames with velocities ranging from +c
to -c in all possible directions, how are you going to integrate over them?
Isn't there a measure problem over an uncountably infinite set?
There's no
On 6 March 2014 11:01, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:47 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
If you have a continuum of inertial frames with velocities ranging from
+c to -c in all possible directions, how are you going to integrate over
them? Isn't there a
On Monday, March 3, 2014 6:47:22 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:36 AM, ghi...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
John - thanks for having a bash at the questions :o)
why do we get tired
Because we run out of fuel or because of lactic acid buildup in our
muscles.
Hi
Let's take 3 worlds A B C making a minimal transitive multiverse. ARB and
BRC implies ARC. So if we assume ARB and BRC we also get ARC (if we don't
assume this we don't have a multiverse or at least not one we can say
anything about. []p in this case means the value of p in A is the same as
its
On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:20:17 AM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 4 March 2014 13:04, spudb...@aol.com javascript: wrote:
I don't have a great comprehension of UDA, but that the foundation of
everything must be arithmetic as you say. The more I read papers and
research about the holographic
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 9:31:03 PM UTC, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:54:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/2/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Mar 2014, at 13:36, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
So, why do we get tired, and why is being tired like the way that it
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
Soyou're saying its about resting the sensitive visual machinery? Why
not do that with an extra pair of eyes and a shift rota? That seems like a
legitimate challenge John, since it seems very doable, and the
benefit
On 6 March 2014 11:57, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
Soyou're saying its about resting the sensitive visual machinery? Why
not do that with an extra pair of eyes and a shift rota? That seems like
a
Ghibsa and honored discussioneers:
you can say about that darn conscousness anything you like, as long as you
cannot identify it. Attribute of a 1st person? that would leave out lots
of smilar phenomena - not even assigned to 'a' 1st person.
When I tried to collect opinions about Ccness of
LizR wrote 3-2-14:
*(JM:*
*Those people of goodwill who want to 'set' the problem by today's
knowledge/means are doing a disservice to all.* )
*Well if us people of goodwill don't look at the problem using today's
knowledge/means (and maybe try to envisage tomorrow's) who is going to do *
On 6 March 2014 12:42, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
LizR wrote 3-2-14:
*(JM:*
*Those people of goodwill who want to 'set' the problem by today's
knowledge/means are doing a disservice to all.* )
*Well if us people of goodwill don't look at the problem using today's
knowledge/means
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:57:30 PM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
Soyou're saying its about resting the sensitive visual machinery?
Why
not do that with an extra pair of eyes and a shift rota? That
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:55:47 PM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 6 March 2014 11:57, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.aujavascript:
wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
Soyou're saying its about resting the sensitive visual machinery?
Hi Jason/Gabriel
Thanks for the posts. They were both really clear. I can see that it was a
mistake to hedge my bets on exact figures and also, given Jason's comments, to
think that seemingly regular sequences were quite common.
I do maintain that proportions of roughly 50/50 splits are a
Brent, could you please reply to Edgar? He is, I'm sure, eagerly awaiting
your response so he can unleash a torrent of carefully thought out
arguments which will cover every point you've made. (As indeed am I.)
On 1 March 2014 13:46, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Brent,
Are you
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:13:26PM -0800, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:57:30 PM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
Soyou're saying its about resting the sensitive visual
Another suggestion, which I would say is (more or less) discredited by the
existence of animals that switch brain hemispheres to stay awake, was the
idea that it's simply *safer *to spend some of your time inactive,
especially for a prey animal.
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Hi Bruno
The question is: can you refute this.
To my own satisfaction? Yes. To your satisfaction? Apparantly not. Though
perhaps you have an ideological agenda and are just trying very hard not to be
refuted?
And for the UDA, you don't need the 50%. You need only to assess the
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:37:48 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:13:26PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:57:30 PM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 02:26:50PM -0800,
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:52:20 AM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:37:48 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:13:26PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:57:30 PM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed,
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:45:11 AM UTC, Liz R wrote:
Another suggestion, which I would say is (more or less) discredited by the
existence of animals that switch brain hemispheres to stay awake, was the
idea that it's simply *safer *to spend some of your time inactive,
especially for a
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 05:52:20PM -0800, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd always defer to an aussie on sharks...but I'm curious how they get the
oxygen onto their gills. Could it be they exploit currents that certain
kinds of cave might produce? What happens when two windows are open on a
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:52:20 AM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:37:48 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:13:26PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:57:30 PM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed,
On Thursday, March 6, 2014 2:47:15 AM UTC, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 05:52:20PM -0800, ghi...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
I'd always defer to an aussie on sharks...but I'm curious how they get
the
oxygen onto their gills. Could it be they exploit currents
On 6 March 2014 15:47, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
Could be - I have heard the factoid that some sharks need to keep
moving. What I don't know is whether it is an urban myth or not.
As ever, the fount of all knowledge has the answer!
From
On 6 March 2014 15:47, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
and then there's that little critter Davie 'crocket' Attenborough wheels
out on the origin of life story...
Davie 'crocket' Attenborough?!?! I've never heard him called that before.
(The Whispering Voice of Television Documentaries, yes...)
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On Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:16:03 AM UTC, Liz R wrote:
On 6 March 2014 15:47, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.aujavascript:
wrote:
Could be - I have heard the factoid that some sharks need to keep
moving. What I don't know is whether it is an urban myth or not.
As ever, the fount of
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:05 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There are over 7 billion people on the planet, never before in the
history of the Earth has a large animal (over
On 05 Mar 2014, at 18:45, Gabriel Bodeen wrote:
Brent was right but the explanation could use some examples to show
you what's happening. The strangeness that you noticed occurs
because you're looking at cases where the proportion is *exactly* 50%.
binopdf(2,4,0.5)=0.375
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