Re: Mark Twain's precognitive dream

Just because useless close-minded people want to play the "I am materialist, therefore I am smart" card, doesn't mean they are actually smart. The opposite is actually true: "I am materialist, therefore I lack intelligence". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

Opinion wise, I wonder if this would have killed the Great Depression, thus, at least,.halting the momentum of the national socialists and causing defections among the communists?  https://www.hgsss.org/prosperity-through-public-money-lessons-from-the-miracle-of-worgl-austria/ -Original Mes

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

Lets cut to the chase folks. In the US, the rich bribe politicians who depend on millions and billions of donations from the rich or PAC's thereof. With dems you get dead-silence, when I present evidence of corporations that bribe the democrats, and the republicans gladly take goodies from the k

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

I read your article, and noticed that there was a New Scientist article (stub) available with an identical term, Mirrorverse, etc to your article. Nothing retrocausal in it as far as I could glance at. This was more identifying dark matter as the mirror, and dark matter was decayed neutrons. Can

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > * >Do you call ISIS and Hezbollah governments? * > They make laws, force people to pay taxes ,conscript them into their army. and give people no choice. It sure sounds like a government to me. > * > Of

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark > > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and >>> believe my saying Aristotle was the

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On 6/5/2019 4:53 PM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:35 PM 'Brent Meeker'  > wrote: /> But nobody paid him to become a rabid anti-semite. / Historically very few anti Semites, even even rabid anti Semites,  kill Jews or pay someone to

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:30 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: *>>>That would happen in circular model of time, like in Gödel GR >>> universe.* >> >> >> >>But the Gödel GR universe is not the one I live in, my universe does >> not rotate. > > > *>How do you know that? * > The short answer is by looking a

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 4:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > * > But nobody paid him to become a rabid anti-semite. * > Historically very few anti Semites, even even rabid anti Semites, kill Jews or pay someone to kill Jews for them unless they are part of a gover

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:57 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:25:10 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:56:41 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Tuesd

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On 6/5/2019 6:15 AM, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: /> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about formin

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 16:32, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes > wrote: >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person could choose which corporation to buy police protection from

Re: Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

It occurred to me that the Quine statement is one which in a quantum computer would duplicate a state. A quantum state ψ that is a set of qubits and a set of operations {O} will as a Quine Q = {O, ψ} result in producing itself with ψ → ψψ and Q^2 = {O×O,.ψψ}. This is not something permissible i

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 15:52, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 15:16, John Clark wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell >> mailto:goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >> >> > Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> > corp

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:16:03 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about >> forming a government

Re: Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

Yes, that’s beautiful work. Quite advanced, though. The wonderful world of ZFC + Determinacy. But most people have already difficulties for the extremely simple first order arithmetic of for the combinatory algebra, so set theory, … well, my student asks me to do a little bit of it, and I took

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:32 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: *> I have read a version of this argument first in "The Machinery of > Freedom" by David Friedman, and I found it quite compelling. * > Me too. *> The problem is that rational actors qiuckly find the power of scale effects, thus corporations

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 16:32, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > >>> >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person >>> >> could choose which corporation to buy police protection from please >>> >> explain to me how 40 million G

Re: The anecdote of Moon landing

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 08:38, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > You didn't even read my paper, otherwise you would have seen that the paper > is about personal identity. I saw this. > And the connection with you theory in which each one of us is a number is > that the thought ex

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

> On 05-Jun-2019, at 9:52 AM, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > If you don't do experiments to test your sacred text, then there is nothing > left but literalism. If you do experiments and test your sacred text you > find it's bull shit. Can you please quote an ayat of The Q

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

> On 05-Jun-2019, at 7:49 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> On 5 Jun 2019, at 06:52, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 6/4/2019 9:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> The problem is not Islam, but the fact that since Al Gazhali, Islam has >>> confined itself in

Re: Allah: the One and Only Deity

> On 5 Jun 2019, at 06:52, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 6/4/2019 9:44 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> The problem is not Islam, but the fact that since Al Gazhali, Islam has >> confined itself in literalism, which is frightening concerning the second >> part of th

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

> On 4 Jun 2019, at 18:10, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > Unlike Philip Thrift and Penrose, you seems to assume both materialism and > > mechanism, > > Well according to you "I have defined mechanism by the idea th

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 9:52 AM Telmo Menezes wrote: > > >> If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person >> could choose which corporation to buy police protection from please explain >> to me how 40 million Germans could murder 6 million Jews. > > > Private police organiza

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

> On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and believe my > >> saying Aristotle was the worst physicist who ever lived means I have > >>

Re: Mark Twain's precognitive dream

Crackpot central indeed!   -- Just because a story reports something as true, doesn't mean it's true End of story. On 6/5/2019 8:20 AM, John Clark wrote: Yep, the Everything list is slowly turning into crackpot central. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:25:10 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:56:41 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, at 15:16, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > >> *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about >> forming a government to provide a p

Re: Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

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Re: Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

You mean: ... is not what this professor of mathematical logic thinks it is. @philipthrift On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:22:17 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > Self-reference is not what you think it is. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Every

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 7:56:41 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:15 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >>> As for

Re: Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

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Re: Mark Twain's precognitive dream

Yep, the Everything list is slowly turning into crackpot central. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@go

Mark Twain's precognitive dream

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Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the > corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about > forming a government to provide a platform, a coherent set of law

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:17 AM 'Brent Meeker' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > *Capitalism assumes that one can own things, especially money. But > without government to adjudicate and enforce claims of ownership, you > couldn't own any more than you could carry on your back at a dea

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 6:45:32 AM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:15 PM Philip Thrift wrote: >> >>> >>> As for quantum stochastic retrodependency (which physicists avoid like >>> vampires avoid

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:48 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > > I've given a retreocausal mechanism of course: > > https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/mirror-mirror/ > As I said, even more mystical than 'spooky-action-at-a-distance'. Bruce If you know of other references, let me know. > > @ph

Re: anrcho-libertarianism

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 12:17:35 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/4/2019 4:29 PM, John Clark wrote: > > If we were starting from scratch I would suggest Anarcho-Capitalism, I > think it would be far superior to democracy, but unfortunately we are not > starting from scratch and so it wou

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:15 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> >> As for quantum stochastic retrodependency (which physicists avoid like >> vampires avoid sunlight), it simplifies the "puzzles" of QM, meaning that, >> for the most part,

Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm

*Computational self-reference and the universal algorithm* Queen Mary University of London, June 2019 via @JDHamkins *This was a talk for the Theory Seminar for the theory research group in Theoretical Computer Science at Queen Mary University of London. The talk was held 4 June 2019 1:00 pm.*

Re: Retrocausality in Quantum Mechanics (SEP)

I've given a retreocausal mechanism of course: https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/mirror-mirror/ If you know of other references, let me know. @philipthrift On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:15 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> >