Re: Dialetheism

On 30 Oct 2013, at 16:26, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: >This *looks* like a description of the salvia experience, but term like "anti-consciousness" is a bit >pejorative for that, although it has anti-life aspect, pointing on the fact that theology is not much "pro-life". That woul

Re: Dialetheism

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 13:36, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > there is great value in a way to access experience which pretends that it >> is not pretending. This is quanta and arithmetic truth. >> > > I would say that is different. It is just

Re: Dialetheism

On 27 Oct 2013, at 13:36, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:27:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Oct 2013, at 02:25, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, October 26, 2013 7:06:19 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 26 Oct 2013, at 14:04, Craig Weinberg wrote: On

Re: Dialetheism

On Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:33:51 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: > > On 26 October 2013 20:01, Craig Weinberg > > wrote: > >> On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: >> >>> On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> The argument against comp is not one of impo

Re: Dialetheism

On 27 October 2013 13:25, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> Build your non-comp theory. Comp implies the consistency (possibility) of >> such theory. >> > I wish I had time to read all the above, but for now at least the bottom line seems to be here! -- You received this message because you are subscr

Re: Dialetheism

On 26 October 2013 20:01, Craig Weinberg wrote: > On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: > >> On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >>> >>> The argument against comp is not one of impossibility, but of empirical >>> failure. Sure, numbers could do this or that, b

Re: Dialetheism

On 26 Oct 2013, at 11:24, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:30:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:11:04 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Craig Weinberg wrote: On

Re: Dialetheism

On Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:30:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:11:04 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 24, 2013

Re: Dialetheism

On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:11:04 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:16:55 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: O

Re: Dialetheism

On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:09:47 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: > > On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg > > wrote: > >> >> The argument against comp is not one of impossibility, but of empirical >> failure. Sure, numbers could do this or that, but our experience does not >> support that it has

Re: Dialetheism

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Re: Dialetheism

On 26 October 2013 12:39, meekerdb wrote: > On 10/25/2013 4:09 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> >> The argument against comp is not one of impossibility, but of empirical >> failure. Sure, numbers could do this or that, but our experience does not >> su

Re: Dialetheism

On 10/25/2013 4:09 PM, LizR wrote: On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg > wrote: The argument against comp is not one of impossibility, but of empirical failure. Sure, numbers could do this or that, but our experience does not support that it has

Re: Dialetheism

On 26 October 2013 06:23, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > The argument against comp is not one of impossibility, but of empirical > failure. Sure, numbers could do this or that, but our experience does not > support that it has ever happened. In the mean time, the view that I > suggest I think does mak

Re: Dialetheism

On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:11:04 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:16:55 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 23, 20

Re: Dialetheism

On 24 Oct 2013, at 18:53, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:16:55 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: "My problem is that you need to do the math to

Re: Dialetheism

On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, meekerdb wrote: On 10/23/2013 9:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false simultaneously. More precisely, it is

Re: Dialetheism

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:16:55 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> > > "My problem is that you need > to do the math to evaluate how much seriously you

Re: Dialetheism

Here's the deal...how about I go to the Garden of Eden and everyone else keep exploring until we finish. Ill never know the difference.. NOT EDEN PRIME though. And don't think about Red or 42 this time. Thanks,s Stephen On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Stephen Lin wrote: > I have the perfect

Re: Dialetheism

On 23 Oct 2013, at 20:07, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: "My problem is that you need to do the math to evaluate how much seriously you can take this remark." Under comp, why couldn't I just imagine tasting the flavor of the

Re: Dialetheism

y, October 23, 2013 11:54:45 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:13:33 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: >>> >>> On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheis

Re: Dialetheism

ms and the ultimate "disproof" of God) Peace On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 11:54:45 PM UTC-4, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:13:33 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: >> >> On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >>> http

Re: Dialetheism

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:13:33 PM UTC-4, Liz R wrote: > > On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg > > wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism >> >> Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false >> simultane

Re: Dialetheism

This is better: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/everything-list/141e79c24d12e062 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, LizR wrote: > Always take the weather with you. I feel a spam filter coming on. > > > On 24 October 2013

Re: Dialetheism

This is better: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/everything-list/141e79c24d12e062 On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, LizR wrote: > Always take the weather with you. I feel a spam filter coming on. > > > On 24 October 2013

Re: Dialetheism

I have the perfect James Joyce! On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Stephen Lin wrote: > This is better: > > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#label/everything-list/141e79c24d12e062 > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, LizR wro

Re: Dialetheism

Always take the weather with you. I feel a spam filter coming on. On 24 October 2013 12:29, Stephen Lin wrote: > Whereever you go, there you are! > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM, LizR wrote: > >> If anyone is still in doubt that Mr Lin is trolling, try googling >> "Tomorrow this will be

Re: Dialetheism

Whereever you go, there you are! On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:17 PM, LizR wrote: > If anyone is still in doubt that Mr Lin is trolling, try googling > "Tomorrow this will be harder but today this is the easiest thing in the > world. Bill Murray? Andie MacDowell? Yes I said yes I will Yes." (includ

Re: Dialetheism

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:25 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 10/23/2013 3:13 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism >> >> Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and

Re: Dialetheism

Wisdom is the art of coming up with believable excuses for one's ignorance. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:25 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 10/23/2013 3:13 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism >&g

Re: Dialetheism

On 10/23/2013 3:13 PM, LizR wrote: On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg <mailto:whatsons...@gmail.com>> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false simultaneously. More precisely,

Re: Dialetheism

If anyone is still in doubt that Mr Lin is trolling, try googling "Tomorrow this will be harder but today this is the easiest thing in the world. Bill Murray? Andie MacDowell? Yes I said yes I will Yes." (including the quote marks). As you will see, the most sensible response to this is "Oh, cr*p -

Re: Dialetheism

Yes I did. Tomorrow this will be harder but today this is the easiest thing in the world. Bill Murray? Andie MacDowell? Yes I said yes I will Yes. Stream of consciousness? Yes, already, after the ghosts in the shells it's not that easy to be a turtle who's green? Red/green color vision. Cogito er

Re: Dialetheism

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Re: Dialetheism

On 10/23/2013 9:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false simultaneously. More precisely, it is the belief that there can be a true statement

Re: Dialetheism

On 24 October 2013 04:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism > > Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false > simultaneously. More precisely, it is the belief that there can be a true > statement whose negation is

Re: Dialetheism

Go meet Roger Please stop the spamming. 2013/10/23 Stephen Lin > Ooops, I did it again, I played with your heart. > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism >> >> Dialetheism is the view that

Re: Dialetheism

Ooops, I did it again, I played with your heart. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism > > Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false > simultaneously. More precisely, it is the belief that th

Re: Dialetheism

te: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Dialetheism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D

Re: Dialetheism

t you??? >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39,

Re: Dialetheism

t;>>> >>>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>>> >>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**D**ialetheism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism> >>>> > >>>> > Dialetheism is the view that some statements

Re: Dialetheism

d, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> > http://en.wi

Re: Dialetheism

12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Dialetheism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism> >>> > >>> > Dialetheism is

Re: Dialetheism

Ming? Was that you??? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Re: Dialetheism

;> On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Dialetheism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism> >> > >> > Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and >> > false simultaneously. More

Re: Dialetheism

On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:34:05 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism > > > > Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and > > fals

Re: Dialetheism

On 23 Oct 2013, at 17:39, Craig Weinberg wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false simultaneously. More precisely, it is the belief that there can be a true statement whose negation is also true. Such statements

Dialetheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism Dialetheism is the view that some statements can be both true and false simultaneously. More precisely, it is the belief that there can be a true statement whose negation is also true. Such statements are called "true contradictions", or