Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-21 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.comwrote: Does that mean that everything is actually unreal Who cares? For a word to have meaning it needs contrast, so a world where EVERYTHING is X would be indistinguishable from a world where NOTHING is X. a holograph

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-21 Thread LizR
Unless the thread title is parsed as everything is either real or unreal :-) On 22 November 2013 07:08, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.comwrote: Does that mean that everything is actually unreal Who cares? For

R: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-19 Thread scerir
Niels Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real. If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.” --- Aage Bohr tried to explain something about te quantum domain and (perhaps)

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real? As Bruno

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-17 Thread Jason Resch
On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:56 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the elements of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them describe people in some computational state).

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Nov 2013, at 04:51, Samiya Illias wrote: Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded asreal. He said something close to that in some of his talk on complementarity. It is a bit of a non-sense, easy to derive from the wave

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Nov 2013, at 11:32, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Alberto G. Corona
who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real? As Bruno said, real is not properly defined. If you interview some random person

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread smitra
Quantum mechanics is only an approximate description of the Mathematical Multiverse. The only things that are real are the elements of that Multiverse, which are algorithms (some of them describe people in some computational state). While the details have yet to be worked out (I have been

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
For humans, this is what is real: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=82c_1384436180 What quantum mechanics tells us is that reality is a relation between fundamental relativism and derived absolutes, as well as derived relativism and fundamental absolutes. In short, reality cannot itself be

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 16 Nov 2013, at 11:32, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread Samiya Illias
, at 11:32, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-16 Thread LizR
Nothing to get hung (up) about. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread Samiya Illias
Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.” What's your take on this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread Jesse Mazer
I suspect this is one of those fake quotes that gets circulated around the internet; searching for everything we call real and bohr on books.google.com I mostly just find it in various religious/spiritual books, nothing scholarly (and nothing dating back to before 1986). Jesse On Fri, Nov 15,

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread Samiya Illias
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real? On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Jesse Mazer laserma...@gmail.com wrote

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread Jesse Mazer
). Jesse On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.comwrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind

Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread meekerdb
On 11/15/2013 8:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real? I don't even know what

R: Re: Everything is real or unreal?

2013-11-15 Thread scerir
(Brent wrote) Neils Bohr had a horseshoe nailed over the door to his office. When a graduate student asked him if he believed the supersition that this would bring good luck, Bohr said, I'm told it works whether you believe in it or not. -- Once, at the afternoon tea, in the Institute