RE: information store
okay: First there were 2 aliases for the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) but when I changed the outlook setting to exchange server instead of Internet email, the rules that split up the incoming mail stopped working. I created two new accounts, expert and ys, and then in the profile of the user added them in the 'open additional mailboxes' tab. That's as far as I get because then it won't open the information store. I also tried making them eachother's delegates but with no result... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: information store Exact steps to reproduce the problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: information store Hi, Happy New Year! I have a problem, when in outlook 97 I try to add additional mailboxes I get a message saying the information store cannot be opened. Any ideas? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hiding Contacts from GAL E2K
Hello, Just in case your answer is the simple: Exchange Advanced Tab / Hide from Exchange Address lists ? I have a couple thousand Email enabled Contacts hidden from the GAL in E2K we use for email forwarding. I haven't looked with ADSIEdit or LDP to see if it's the same attribute for both Contacts and Users, if you're trying to script it, but ... you can hide Contacts from the GAL in E2K. Brent -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Thursday, January 03, 2002 7:41 AM Posted To: MS Exchange List Conversation: Hiding Contacts from GAL E2K Subject: Hiding Contacts from GAL E2K I am in the process of creating email enabled contact that are used for forwarding using E2K. However I would also like to hide them from the GAL. Since you can not hide contacts from the address lists like regular users, I was wondering what my alternatives are. The 2 that come to mind is to create the forwarding addresses using the create user like normal then hide from address lists or delete the All Contacts Address View from the All Address Lists that is created by defualt in Exchange. This second method makes me think it may create other problems down the road. Which is prefered method or is there another way _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Email Tab
Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Remnants of Groupshield It still keeps me from sleeping Why me, God, why me!? I wish gloom on them Good thing Dallas is remote Can't say what I'd do. Create a virus? Certainly tell Sybari, But not tell *them* shit. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: getting data from priv.edb
Read the white paper on Disaster Recovery from the Microsoft Support site. This will tell you what you can do. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Lewis Kapell Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2002 13:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: getting data from priv.edb Sorry if this message is a duplicate; I tried sending it before but I'm not sure if it went through. My company uses Exchange 5.5 with less than 100 users. One of the drives on the server went down and the directory (dir.edb) was lost. We have no backups (yes, I know, shame on us). My question is, can the data (the users' saved messages) be extracted from priv.edb? I ran isinteg -pri -dump, and the result contained a section titled Dump of the mailbox table, with entries for each mailbox in our site. For each mailbox there are about 14 lines of information, followed by a line saying: Error: 1 database retrieve error on current record. Can anyone tell me what this error means? Should I be seeing individual mail messages in this dump file? Is there any other way I can extract my user's messages from this file? Thanks for any help. Lewis Kapell _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The message that caused this notification was: 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error. 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 512 The message that caused this notification was:
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
If thrust is greater than drag and lift is greater than body weight it should fly at around 30 knots.. As long as it doesnt point its nose at a 15 degree angle, else it will stall. Probably. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen about 8 of them today. 1.) A mail message was
RE: life cycle of Exchange
Thanks, Craig. My director were discussing the security issue, too. With HIPAA's security rules soon to be published, this is another stick we can hold over administration's head. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: life cycle of Exchange There are multiple reasons. All of the best ones (i.e. most compelling) revolve around security. It's getting to the point where it is difficult to find a way to penetrate a company's defenses attacking things in layer 6 and below. Wireless is a temporary exception, but most attacks are now launched in the application layer, and most of those are focused on e-mail. The reason that people use e-mail should be obvious: - you willingly accept bits from outside, so long as they meet certain criteria. - mail clients are supplied as a part of every version of Windows and have enough similarity to make a virus type of attack easier to proliferate. - because of the variability of attachments, the level of complexity and thus the chances that an undefended hole can be found are both very high. There are lots of way to envision attacking via e-mail. Most will be client-centric, but attacking the servers is not an unimaginable scenario. What a messaging product that is currently supported by the vendor buys you is a rapid response to security issues that are frankly guaranteed to arise. Just to protect yourself, it is an absolute necessity of life on the net to keep your product in a currently supported by the vendor state. That only leaves one question, what is the best strategy for moving it forward? There is no one right answer. If you are a large enterprise that is guaranteed to be hit by every virus that comes along, then you need to keep current with every hot fix that comes along, and you need to rev through each version so make sure that you are getting the most rapid response to hot fix requirements that might arise. If you are smaller, then this is probably unnecessary. However, there is another issue. Generally speaking, and this is a very broad and unspecific generality, the migration tools are easier to use and the chance of a system administration induced data loss event are minimized if you make routine small incremental steps that are a part of your regular activities. The more infrequently you do something, and the more rev levels that you skip, the greater the chance is that you will make a mess of it. What you want are consistent processes, not irregular fire drills. Fire drills will cost you more than you will save by not having a routine. Long ago I stopped believing in using backup tools as a means of recovering from data losses. In my experience, there are really only two common causes of data loss: 1. the deliberate actions of users that are not well thought out 2. sys admin mistakes in performing a fire drill restoration This is not to say that you should not be familiar with backup tools, nor that you should not use them at all, but you should recognize that they have a limited value, and tend to be more useful for hardware upgrades than almost anything else. What, you might ask, has this digression on backup have to do with keeping a mail system current? Let's say you are now two versions behind, quickly on the back of an envelope list all of the steps that you are going to perform when you do get around to your next upgrade. I think the point of my digression will become obvious . . . -Original Message- From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: life cycle of Exchange We all know that Microsoft has announced the planned end of support for NT 4.0. I know they had a link which listed life-cycles of various products but I can't seem to find it anymore. I've search under life-cycle, product life-cycle, etc, etc. Does anybody have a link or can tell me any planned end for support for Exchange 5.5? We're trying to convince administration to replace our servers and move 100% to Windows 2000. They, of course, ar balking at it so we're coming up with every, stinkin' little bit of reason we can. For some reason, just saying ...cause we believe it's a good idea... just doesn't seem to be an acceptable argument. Thanks, Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Mem Med Ctr _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Chicago or Seattle? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard Sent:
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. --Robert F. Kennedy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That could be another variable to the formula. I think the cross wind factor in Chicago would be more then in Seattle, but the air in Seattle is more dense due to the rain. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Chicago or Seattle? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person
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Same theory but with a bigger butt. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other
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Well, now I am interested... -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Same theory but with a bigger butt. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit
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Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has
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True, but in a test lab the results are always different. Fsking groupshield. (just thought I would add that) -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question That could be another variable to the formula. I think the cross wind factor in Chicago would be more then in Seattle, but the air in Seattle is more dense due to the rain. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Chicago or Seattle? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would
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And now.. A word from our sponsors. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It also depends on the wing drag. You know that a bird who's molting has less feathers then one who has a full set of wings. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question True, but in a test lab the results are always different. Fsking groupshield. (just thought I would add that) -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question That could be another variable to the formula. I think the cross wind factor in Chicago would be more then in Seattle, but the air in Seattle is more dense due to the rain. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Chicago or Seattle? -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To:
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Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC
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Blimey, I thought you were just an Exchange guru! Neil -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:04 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002
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Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to
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Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird
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Hi First there were 2 aliases for the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) but when I changed the outlook setting to exchange server instead of Internet email, the rules that split up the incoming mail stopped working. I created two new accounts, expert and ys, and then in the profile of the user added them in the 'open additional mailboxes' tab. That's as far as I get because then it won't open the information store. I also tried making them eachother's delegates but with no result... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: information store Exact steps to reproduce the problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: information store Hi, Happy New Year! I have a problem, when in outlook 97 I try to add additional mailboxes I get a message saying the information store cannot be opened. Any ideas? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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LOL! Spot on there ...:-) Oh no, spot is a dog (or troll in Richard's case) -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:23 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How
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For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies in the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To:
Re: Email Tab
I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Just like Dr. Ruth. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question All's fair in war. I am a birds and bees guru. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies in the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures
Details Template Logic
Anyone seen a way to input logic into the Details Template of Exchange 5.5 (Org/Site/Config/Addressing/Details Template/English/USA)? We are creating a new tab for providing Conference Room info (# Seats, additional resources...). However, we'd like this new tab to only show up for mailboxes that actually have info in these fields. i.e. - If a user checks details on a conf room, the tab will be visible, if they check on a user, it will not be visible... Any thoughts? Thanks Steve * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
I think he was talking E2k, whilst you're talking 5.5 Personally, I've not seen this - is this happening on all instances of the Exchange Admin program, e.g. admin workstations as well as the server itself? Neil -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:56 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Email Tab Subject: RE: Email Tab Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
It is yes. I have got them to check all their permissions but everything seems to be in order. I have tried to force the problem on my test server but to no avail. I know they re-installed their IMS a few weeks ago successfully but i am at a blank as to why the tabs are missing. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab I think he was talking E2k, whilst you're talking 5.5 Personally, I've not seen this - is this happening on all instances of the Exchange Admin program, e.g. admin workstations as well as the server itself? Neil -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:56 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Email Tab Subject: RE: Email Tab Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Take the monitor apart. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named recipient(s) only and are confidential and may be privileged. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or disclose them or any part of their contents to any person or organisation; please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and its attachments from your computer system. Please note that Internet communications are not necessarily secure and may be changed, intercepted or corrupted. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us and we will not accept any liability for any such changes, interceptions or corruptions. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and its attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. Copyright in this e-mail and attachments created by us belongs to Littlewoods. Littlewoods takes steps to prohibit the transmission of offensive, obscene or discriminatory material. If this message contains inappropriate material please forward the e-mail intact to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be investigated. Statements and opinions contained in this e-mail may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communication may be monitored. Registered office: Littlewoods Retail Limited, Sir John Moores Building, 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB Registered no: 421258 http://www.littlewoods.com *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
I'd start with duct tape and lots of it. -- Robert Moir, MSMVP IT Systems Engineer, Luton Sixth Form College Rome did not create a mighty empire by having management meetings -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Make sure your keyboard is connected to your server. ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Taylor, Mal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Take the monitor apart. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This e-mail and its attachments are intended for the above named recipient(s) only and are confidential and may be privileged. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or disclose them or any part of their contents to any person or organisation; please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and its attachments from your computer system. Please note that Internet communications are not necessarily secure and may be changed, intercepted or corrupted. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us and we will not accept any liability for any such changes, interceptions or corruptions. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and its attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. Copyright in this e-mail and attachments created by us belongs to Littlewoods. Littlewoods takes steps to prohibit the transmission of offensive, obscene or discriminatory material. If this message contains inappropriate material please forward the e-mail intact to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it will be investigated. Statements and opinions contained in this e-mail may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communication may be monitored. Registered office: Littlewoods Retail Limited, Sir John Moores Building, 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB Registered no: 421258 http://www.littlewoods.com *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
no.. I believe duct tape has been replaced with liquid nail (you can get it into smaller places) but the 'lots of it' part still applies. -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think I'd start with duct tape and lots of it. -- Robert Moir, MSMVP IT Systems Engineer, Luton Sixth Form College Rome did not create a mighty empire by having management meetings -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:15 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Do you use Outlook? -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
The same can be said here in the (somewhat) United States. There has been a plague infesting honeybee hives for several years now. Bee population numbers are falling into the toilet, although I don't believe that the plague is having an effect on Africanized bees. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Duct tape. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Ault Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Did you think it was too quiet in here this morning? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Ault Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Be careful there, Dr. Ruth was a sniper in a different life. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Steven A. Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Just like Dr. Ruth. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question All's fair in war. I am a birds and bees guru. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies in the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Prayer, bailing wire and some oatmeal in the radiator. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
first ...turn off the client (workstation) second ... shut down the server... problem solved! or walk out of the area...Out of Site out of mind.. problem solved... -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Do you use Outlook? -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
Was the Exchange service pack reapplied after the IMS was reinstalled? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab It is yes. I have got them to check all their permissions but everything seems to be in order. I have tried to force the problem on my test server but to no avail. I know they re-installed their IMS a few weeks ago successfully but i am at a blank as to why the tabs are missing. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab I think he was talking E2k, whilst you're talking 5.5 Personally, I've not seen this - is this happening on all instances of the Exchange Admin program, e.g. admin workstations as well as the server itself? Neil -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:56 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Email Tab Subject: RE: Email Tab Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
-Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think no.. I believe duct tape has been replaced with liquid nail (you can get it into smaller places) but the 'lots of it' part still applies. Oui but I am old fashioned. -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
nothing wrong with that. -Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think no.. I believe duct tape has been replaced with liquid nail (you can get it into smaller places) but the 'lots of it' part still applies. Oui but I am old fashioned. -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. The contents of this email do not necessarily represent the views or policies of Luton Sixth Form College, its employees or students. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Once again, this group is not focusing on the discussion. L = (1/2) d v2 s CL If you want to figure flying pigs into this equation, I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. You people are impossible. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The same can be said here in the (somewhat) United States. There has been a plague infesting honeybee hives for several years now. Bee population numbers are falling into the toilet, although I don't believe that the plague is having an effect on Africanized bees. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was:
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
I have some AVIs that can show you how to fix your problem. S. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk
Because I don't have an Exchange 2000 server to install the service pack on As you can see I'm just putting the ADC up. I'm trying to figure out if the ADC on the SP1/Sp2 disks is compatible with just the base install or if you only use them if you also have Exchange 2000 servers at SP1 or SP2. My favorite part of the SP files is the empty documents folder. When I do bring Exchange 2000 up, I plan on doing so at SP2. Appreciate your concern... any suggestion about the actual question, though? I will be testing it, but just thought someone here might know. thanks, josh -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Why wouldn't you install the latest service pack on the server? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk I'm about to install the ADC to connect our single Exchange 5.5 site to our single Forest/Domain. I noticed that on the exchange SP1 and SP2 disks there is an ADC. Does anyone know if I can/should install this version or is it only necessary/recommended to install the SPx versions if you have Exchange 2000 installs at the according service pack level? Josh Harmon Server Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
I wouldnt put it past them if they hadnt. Would this cause something like this do you think? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Lynne July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab Was the Exchange service pack reapplied after the IMS was reinstalled? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab It is yes. I have got them to check all their permissions but everything seems to be in order. I have tried to force the problem on my test server but to no avail. I know they re-installed their IMS a few weeks ago successfully but i am at a blank as to why the tabs are missing. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab I think he was talking E2k, whilst you're talking 5.5 Personally, I've not seen this - is this happening on all instances of the Exchange Admin program, e.g. admin workstations as well as the server itself? Neil -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:56 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Email Tab Subject: RE: Email Tab Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Time flies like a bird, fruit flies like a banana. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Once again, this group is not focusing on the discussion. L = (1/2) d v2 s CL If you want to figure flying pigs into this equation, I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. You people are impossible. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The same can be said here in the (somewhat) United States. There has been a plague infesting honeybee hives for several years now. Bee population numbers are falling into the toilet, although I don't believe that the plague is having an effect on Africanized bees. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Stop thinking. Now everything is fine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Ault Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:15 AM To: ExchangeList@swynk Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OL2000 / IE6 chopping HTML mail?
Kind ladies and gentlemen of the list... We seem to have developed a problem as of late, and I'm wondering if any of you have seen it and have found a solution for it... A number of our users are using HTML mail. (Let's not get into the arguments for not using HTML mail right now... I know them, and agree whole heartedly that users should stick to plain text, but our CEO's opinion differs, so here I am..) The problem is that some messages sent in HTML format are being randomly truncated, usually in the quoted portion of the reply on some of the OL2000 clients who receive the message. The problem seems to have begun after upgrading Win98 clients to IE6, so I'm thinking there's something strange with the IE6 HTML display engine and / or the way it interacts with OL but I can't find anything in the MSKB about it... Viewing the same HTML message in OL2002 shows the entire message, so it's not really an Exchange (5.5 sp4) problem, but a client problem... The clients so far that have exhibited the problem are: Win98 SE running IE6 and Office 2000 (original and SP1, haven't tried installing O2kSP2)... Nobody with the Win2k, O2k, IE6 combo appears to have the problem (or at least hasn't complained about it if they do)... Joe Pochedley I like deadlines, cartoonist Scott Adams once said. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk
The SP2 Deployment Guide recommends that you use the ADC from the SP2 CD. Neil -Original Message- From: Harmon, Josh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 14:42 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Because I don't have an Exchange 2000 server to install the service pack on As you can see I'm just putting the ADC up. I'm trying to figure out if the ADC on the SP1/Sp2 disks is compatible with just the base install or if you only use them if you also have Exchange 2000 servers at SP1 or SP2. My favorite part of the SP files is the empty documents folder. When I do bring Exchange 2000 up, I plan on doing so at SP2. Appreciate your concern... any suggestion about the actual question, though? I will be testing it, but just thought someone here might know. thanks, josh -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk Why wouldn't you install the latest service pack on the server? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harmon, Josh Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC on Exchange2k SP2 disk I'm about to install the ADC to connect our single Exchange 5.5 site to our single Forest/Domain. I noticed that on the exchange SP1 and SP2 disks there is an ADC. Does anyone know if I can/should install this version or is it only necessary/recommended to install the SPx versions if you have Exchange 2000 installs at the according service pack level? Josh Harmon Server Admin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Email Tab
I'm not sure, but I seem to recall having a similar problem on my Notes Connector (missing a tab) prior to applying the SP. -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab I wouldnt put it past them if they hadnt. Would this cause something like this do you think? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Lynne July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab Was the Exchange service pack reapplied after the IMS was reinstalled? -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab It is yes. I have got them to check all their permissions but everything seems to be in order. I have tried to force the problem on my test server but to no avail. I know they re-installed their IMS a few weeks ago successfully but i am at a blank as to why the tabs are missing. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 14:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Email Tab I think he was talking E2k, whilst you're talking 5.5 Personally, I've not seen this - is this happening on all instances of the Exchange Admin program, e.g. admin workstations as well as the server itself? Neil -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 13:56 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: Email Tab Subject: RE: Email Tab Sorry, having a memory blank. Which exchange admin tools are you referring to? Doesnt the Exchange CD install them automatically when you install exchange admin? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Mark A. Stanfill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Email Tab I'm guessing that the remote site did not install the Exchange admin tools. Until you do this, the Exchange extensions to ADUC will not show up. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:10 AM Subject: Email Tab Ex 5.5 sp4 NT sp6 Is there a permissions setting in Exchange administrator that would remove the email address tab from being visible on the properties of every mailbox? Only our sister company cannot see the tab on any of their mailboxes. External mail is still working fine, they just cant view the tab They are also unable to add new custom recipients, the option is not there under FILE. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It isn't my problem but it is still Puzzling me. Many thanks. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands, or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: fix monitor
Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- -| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | -| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
What does scrapple taste like? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 15:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
understanding why bumblebees, pigs, flat birds fly ask Yoda you must My whack at an answer on Haiku Fri. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Time flies like a bird, fruit flies like a banana. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Once again, this group is not focusing on the discussion. L = (1/2) d v2 s CL If you want to figure flying pigs into this equation, I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. You people are impossible. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The same can be said here in the (somewhat) United States. There has been a plague infesting honeybee hives for several years now. Bee population numbers are falling into the toilet, although I don't believe that the plague is having an effect on Africanized bees. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly?
RE: fix monitor
The real question is: Are you willing to try it? That was for the light saber thing. love ya -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
Did someone say lightsaber? ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor The real question is: Are you willing to try it? That was for the light saber thing. love ya -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Must be that what he is wearing has affected his brain as well... ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Barry Patterson| || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 09:31 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- -| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think | -| Did you think it was too quiet in here this morning? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Ault Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
It's been about ten years since I've had it. I don't remember it tasting like chicken though. I think it tasted like ham and bacon soaked in salt. Now that I think of it, they may use the extra salt to cover the fact that it tastes like chicken. :) -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor What does scrapple taste like? Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 15:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: fix monitor
Geez Kelly, it tastes like chicken... Haven't you seen the Matrix? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
I love animals. They're delicious. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 15:52 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: fix monitor Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Thomas Di Nardo| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 10:23 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ:
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: fix monitor
It tastes just like tofu. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Thomas Di Nardo| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 10:23 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: fix monitor for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
RE: fix monitor
A variation... If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, why did he make them taste so good? -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I love animals. They're delicious. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 January 2002 15:52 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: fix monitor Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Thomas Di Nardo| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 10:23 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| No, that would taste like troll. Troll probably tastes like eel. I believe eel tastes like ... chicken. Damn! Everything tastes like chicken, even fried Tener. Tom. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor Would that taste like chicken too? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Ed Crowley | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/03/2002 11:28 PM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: fix monitor | --- --| Mmm... fried Tener Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware. Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts. Just An idea. Ken Kenneth Davis IT Manager American Wood Moulding, LLC For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
Yoda out today Couldn't take bad hair day Poor green old master -Original Message- From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question understanding why bumblebees, pigs, flat birds fly ask Yoda you must My whack at an answer on Haiku Fri. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Time flies like a bird, fruit flies like a banana. -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Once again, this group is not focusing on the discussion. L = (1/2) d v2 s CL If you want to figure flying pigs into this equation, I'll have to get back to you tomorrow. You people are impossible. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question The same can be said here in the (somewhat) United States. There has been a plague infesting honeybee hives for several years now. Bee population numbers are falling into the toilet, although I don't believe that the plague is having an effect on Africanized bees. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org
RE: recipients
I think he might be taller than me. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Chris is actually taller than someone else? I dont believe it. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Like Yoda with better grammar. And despite rumors to the contrary Chris is taller; I can confirm that. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients If you need an analogy. Chris is like Yoda... When he speaks pay attention. And don't play w/your light saber while reading his posts. ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes. Yes he does. He specialises in tings. You will do well to read every single Chris Scharff post to this forum. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who is Chris Scharff? Must know alot of tings -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Did you find a picture of Chris canoeing through his living room? William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I was just doing a search on google for max recipients and I found Chris Scharff name. Ben: For those of you feeling a bit disoriented, please sit down, have a sip of water, and meet Jim McBee, our new Exchange Pro. Chris Scharff had other obligations taking up his time so he had to step away, and Jim's been good enough to slide into his seat. http://www.devx.com/premier/mgznarch/exchange/2001/10oct01/ap0 110/ap0110.asp -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes, there is a theoritical maximum. It exceeds 254 by just a tad unless the server has been modified to set that as the maximum limit. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: recipients Is there a max amount of recipients you can send to through exchange or is it unlimited. My impression is that the max is 254 is this true. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ:
RE: fix monitor
If your chintzy company would have sent you to MEC, you would know for certain that it tastes just like alligator. Assuming we could have convinced you that it was fried okra or something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, January 04, 2002 09:52 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: fix monitor Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Didn't they do that to Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: recipients
Who isnt? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I think he might be taller than me. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Chris is actually taller than someone else? I dont believe it. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Like Yoda with better grammar. And despite rumors to the contrary Chris is taller; I can confirm that. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients If you need an analogy. Chris is like Yoda... When he speaks pay attention. And don't play w/your light saber while reading his posts. ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes. Yes he does. He specialises in tings. You will do well to read every single Chris Scharff post to this forum. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who is Chris Scharff? Must know alot of tings -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Did you find a picture of Chris canoeing through his living room? William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I was just doing a search on google for max recipients and I found Chris Scharff name. Ben: For those of you feeling a bit disoriented, please sit down, have a sip of water, and meet Jim McBee, our new Exchange Pro. Chris Scharff had other obligations taking up his time so he had to step away, and Jim's been good enough to slide into his seat. http://www.devx.com/premier/mgznarch/exchange/2001/10oct01/ap0 110/ap0110.asp -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes, there is a theoritical maximum. It exceeds 254 by just a tad unless the server has been modified to set that as the maximum limit. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: recipients Is there a max amount of recipients you can send to through exchange or is it unlimited. My impression is that the max is 254 is this true. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis, Suhler Associates, Inc. by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you.
Outlook hangs up
Good Morning, Outlook 98 and NT 5.5 SP4 Windows 95. It seems that everyday, once a day, my Outlook hoses up. It is usually when I am creating (replying to) a message. I put the name in the TO: field and tab down to enter my message and the name does not resolve. If I don't notice the name has not resolved and send the message Outlook sits there and does nothing. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete to get my Outlook back. I also have to get rid of the Wfcrun32 task or my tabbing capabilities doesn't work. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Happy New Year. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Separate the saucer. - Original Message - From: Tim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
With sufficient velocity even a pig will fly. - Original Message - From: Joyce, Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:50 AM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question If thrust is greater than drag and lift is greater than body weight it should fly at around 30 knots.. As long as it doesnt point its nose at a 15 degree angle, else it will stall. Probably. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question How fast does a deflated bird fly? (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus) If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore: L = (1/2) d v2 s CL L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude. v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second s = the wing area of the bird in square feet CL = Coefficient of lift Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl. Therefore it's a trick question. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You asked three questions: What is your name? What is your quest? What is your favorite color? - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You didnt answer my last question. ;) -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really. - Original Message - From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me since I got nary a response last time: 6.2 Loop Detection Simple counting of the number of Received: headers in a message has proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of detecting loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops. What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What constitutes a trivial loop? Are these stupid questions? Andy -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda um... is it really not obvious? 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line) Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the recievers server 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too big) and what is the limit in size that someone can send out. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! Each time a person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other
RE: recipients
Kelly. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who isnt? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I think he might be taller than me. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Chris is actually taller than someone else? I dont believe it. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Like Yoda with better grammar. And despite rumors to the contrary Chris is taller; I can confirm that. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients If you need an analogy. Chris is like Yoda... When he speaks pay attention. And don't play w/your light saber while reading his posts. ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes. Yes he does. He specialises in tings. You will do well to read every single Chris Scharff post to this forum. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who is Chris Scharff? Must know alot of tings -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Did you find a picture of Chris canoeing through his living room? William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I was just doing a search on google for max recipients and I found Chris Scharff name. Ben: For those of you feeling a bit disoriented, please sit down, have a sip of water, and meet Jim McBee, our new Exchange Pro. Chris Scharff had other obligations taking up his time so he had to step away, and Jim's been good enough to slide into his seat. http://www.devx.com/premier/mgznarch/exchange/2001/10oct01/ap0 110/ap0110.asp -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes, there is a theoritical maximum. It exceeds 254 by just a tad unless the server has been modified to set that as the maximum limit. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: recipients Is there a max amount of recipients you can send to through exchange or is it unlimited. My impression is that the max is 254 is this true. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis,
RE: fix monitor
Ugh - that reminds me. My last trip to Germany, we went to an Australian restaurant. We had alligator. I wasn't too fond of it. Kinda chewy compared to either chicken or steak. BTW - we also had Ostrich and Emu - both of those were rather good. AND - the alligator did in fact taste like chicken. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: fix monitor If your chintzy company would have sent you to MEC, you would know for certain that it tastes just like alligator. Assuming we could have convinced you that it was fried okra or something. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, January 04, 2002 09:52 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: fix monitor Subject: RE: fix monitor I am a vegetarian... I haven't had chicken in about 13 years. I forgot what it tastes like. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook hangs up
Mike, You haven't recently moved this email account from one server to another or org? if you have it is because you have not deleted and reinstalled the OAB entry in Outlook. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everybody agrees you should have one, but no one wants to use yours -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook hangs up Good Morning, Outlook 98 and NT 5.5 SP4 Windows 95. It seems that everyday, once a day, my Outlook hoses up. It is usually when I am creating (replying to) a message. I put the name in the TO: field and tab down to enter my message and the name does not resolve. If I don't notice the name has not resolved and send the message Outlook sits there and does nothing. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete to get my Outlook back. I also have to get rid of the Wfcrun32 task or my tabbing capabilities doesn't work. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Happy New Year. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony UK. (6) ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Outlook hangs up
If you are using an .OST (set up for offline use), try re-synchronizing your address book. Make sure you do not have the option to get changes since last synchronization checked and that you are downloading Full Details. Steven A. Christensen Network Engineer MCSE on Win2K MCSE+I on WinNT - Original Message - From: Mitchell Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Outlook hangs up Good Morning, Outlook 98 and NT 5.5 SP4 Windows 95. It seems that everyday, once a day, my Outlook hoses up. It is usually when I am creating (replying to) a message. I put the name in the TO: field and tab down to enter my message and the name does not resolve. If I don't notice the name has not resolved and send the message Outlook sits there and does nothing. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete to get my Outlook back. I also have to get rid of the Wfcrun32 task or my tabbing capabilities doesn't work. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Happy New Year. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Consultant Security/System Audit??
Does anyone here do or have had done to them a security or systems check for their Exchange site? Our budget time is approaching and I'd like to budget to have a guy come in and test our email system for security and possibly go over the system for performance and whatnot just to make sure I haven't missed anything anywhere. I know they do this sort of thing for networks in general but do they do it for email and specifically exchange? e- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Set fire to your computer office, then get insurance to cover the cost of replacing the computers. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Be sure to get an electric chainsaw. The fumes from the gas ones will knock you out when used indoors. Long story, but yes, I learned from personal experience. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Thomas Di Nardo| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 10:50 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- -| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think | -| Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Sure, with this ! http://www.airborne.net/eready/janette/store/compdetail.asp?sku=AB-SP-RD-300 -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Is one allowed to FDISK a user? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think FDISK both. Don't reinstall any OS. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 6:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: recipients
It depends... which shoes am I wearing? Without high heels, I admit, most 7-year-olds are taller than me. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Darcy Adams | || Darcy.Adams@gettyimages.| || com | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 11:00 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- -| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: recipients | -| Kelly. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who isnt? -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I think he might be taller than me. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Chris is actually taller than someone else? I dont believe it. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Like Yoda with better grammar. And despite rumors to the contrary Chris is taller; I can confirm that. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3 Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients If you need an analogy. Chris is like Yoda... When he speaks pay attention. And don't play w/your light saber while reading his posts. ___ John Bowles Exchange Administrator Enterprise Support Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes. Yes he does. He specialises in tings. You will do well to read every single Chris Scharff post to this forum. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Who is Chris Scharff? Must know alot of tings -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Did you find a picture of Chris canoeing through his living room? William -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients I was just doing a search on google for max recipients and I found Chris Scharff name. Ben: For those of you feeling a bit disoriented, please sit down, have a sip of water, and meet Jim McBee, our new Exchange Pro. Chris Scharff had other obligations taking up his time so he had to step away, and Jim's been good enough to slide into his seat. http://www.devx.com/premier/mgznarch/exchange/2001/10oct01/ap0 110/ap0110.asp -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: recipients Yes, there is a theoritical maximum. It exceeds 254 by just a tad unless the server has been modified to set that as the maximum limit. Chris -- Chris
RE: information store
Well, the rules thing could probably be fixed with a change to the ResolveP2 registry setting on the server, but that's a bit of a digression. So you are able to add them as additional mailboxes and then get the error trying to expand them in the folder list or does it error out as you try to add them to the profile? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: information store okay: First there were 2 aliases for the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]) but when I changed the outlook setting to exchange server instead of Internet email, the rules that split up the incoming mail stopped working. I created two new accounts, expert and ys, and then in the profile of the user added them in the 'open additional mailboxes' tab. That's as far as I get because then it won't open the information store. I also tried making them eachother's delegates but with no result... -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 January, 2002 4:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: information store Exact steps to reproduce the problem? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: information store Hi, Happy New Year! I have a problem, when in outlook 97 I try to add additional mailboxes I get a message saying the information store cannot be opened. Any ideas? Kim _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
Call the ambulance... - Original Message - From: Tim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER: This email (including attachments) is confidential. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system without copying or disseminating it or placing any reliance upon its contents. We cannot accept liability for any breaches of confidence arising through use of email. Any opinions expressed in this email (including attachments) are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect our opinions. We will not accept responsibility for any commitments made by our employees outside the scope of our business. We do not warrant the accuracy or completeness of such information. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
You forgot the garbage bags to carry away the evidence. Tom Mezyk IT - Messaging Support -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == NOTICE - This message may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A particular email is repeatedly being sent
I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook hangs up
We have, on occasion had users with this problem - multiple versions of Outlook. As I recall, the problem always appeared to be related to having multiple copies of the outlook address book. If you check the properties for your outlook address book, you may find more than one. James Winzenz, MCSE, A+ Associate Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook hangs up Good Morning, Outlook 98 and NT 5.5 SP4 Windows 95. It seems that everyday, once a day, my Outlook hoses up. It is usually when I am creating (replying to) a message. I put the name in the TO: field and tab down to enter my message and the name does not resolve. If I don't notice the name has not resolved and send the message Outlook sits there and does nothing. I have to Ctrl Alt Delete to get my Outlook back. I also have to get rid of the Wfcrun32 task or my tabbing capabilities doesn't work. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Happy New Year. Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
I back up to wetlands, so I don't need to carry anything away. If you're concerned, you should add a shovel and a bag of lime to the list as optional items. Tom. -Original Message- From: Mezyk, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think You forgot the garbage bags to carry away the evidence. Tom Mezyk IT - Messaging Support -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == NOTICE - This message may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
For indoor work, I would recommend a SawZall. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Be sure to get an electric chainsaw. The fumes from the gas ones will knock you out when used indoors. Long story, but yes, I learned from personal experience. ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor |+--- || Thomas Di Nardo| || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om | || Sent by: | || bounce-exchange-148870@ls| || .swynk.com | || | || | || 01/04/2002 10:50 AM | || Please respond to| || Exchange Discussions | || | |+--- --- --| | | | To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think | --- --| Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A particular email is repeatedly being sent
Are you using Mail Essentials? If so, check the Outgoing folder for the message. If there, stop the ME services, delete the message, and restart the services. Steven A. Christensen Network Engineer MCSE on Win2K MCSE+I on WinNT - Original Message - From: Michel, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:30 AM Subject: A particular email is repeatedly being sent I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. David S. Michel MCSE/CNE Systems Engineer Ruden McClosky Smith Schuster Russell, P.A. 200 East Broward Boulevard Suite 1600 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 954-527-2456 Direct Phone 954-333-4056 Direct Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This e-mail message and any attachment to this e-mail message contains confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by telephone at 954-764-6660 and delete this message. Please note that if this e-mail message contains a forwarded message or is a reply to a prior message, some or all of the contents of this message or any attachments may not have been produced by Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster, Russell, P.A. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you explain how a bee flies? Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You forgot the cross wind factor. Martin Tuip MVP
RE: A particular email is repeatedly being sent
Do the message headers of the received messages indicate it is the Exchange server resending them? Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: A particular email is repeatedly being sent I sent an email to someone who is my contacts list one time yesterday morning but my Exchange server has since sent that same email to that same recipient about 40 times since. I've checked the log files, the event viewer, the tracking but I see only the original message. Neither the recipient or I have any rules turned on and neither of us has the OOA on. We're both using Outlook 2000. Using an E2k mailbox server w/ sp2 and a Ex5.5 IMC if that matters and no one else has reported this being an issue. The only change to the server was that we added 2GB of RAM to the mailbox server last night but the email loop started before that time and is still continuing to happen. Any ideas? I did not see anything in TechNet regarding this issue. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think
you back up to an amateur porno site? gosh.. -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think I back up to wetlands, so I don't need to carry anything away. If you're concerned, you should add a shovel and a bag of lime to the list as optional items. Tom. -Original Message- From: Mezyk, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think You forgot the garbage bags to carry away the evidence. Tom Mezyk IT - Messaging Support -Original Message- From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Some Problem Someplace, I think Duct-tape, safety wire, a chainsaw, and a 14 mulcher can solve any problem you might have. Tom. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Some Problem Someplace, I think hi list.. i have a problem with either the server or the client.. how do i fix it..? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == NOTICE - This message may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
This coming from a person who dresses in black every day and listens to Goth Music. Keep a lid on it Batman. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Ewins, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question You should see him in his nice powder blue top. Very fetching. JDE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be careful... -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question And why couldn't the male carry the egg? I'm calling HR. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the female bird could carry an egg. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question It's a contained environment with no crosswinds. No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!! Now, back to the show. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies. However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from some device? Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for us! Paul -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's unique method of flying. Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position. Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford University says, The whole system is a lot more complicated than we thought. A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand to improve his own methods of flying. To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not totally understand. Does that answer your question? Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 Listowner www.exchange-mail.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Was:
