shared calendar on different domain.

2001-11-12 Thread Kim Schotanus

Hi, 
How do I set up a calandar that can be used by all users  in exchange
2000? 

Kim

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Re: How do you restrict the number of attachments in a message?

2001-11-12 Thread Tony Hlabse

Everything  have seen in the past and with current versions of Exchange is
you can limit size only.


- Original Message -
From: Al [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:39 AM
Subject: How do you restrict the number of attachments in a message?


 Does any one know how to restrict the number of attachments included in an
 email? There is a 5MB size limit setting for the email but I would like to
 know how to limit the number of attachments included in an email.




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Re: Someone SPAM my Exchange Server 5.5 !Urgent Help

2001-11-12 Thread Tony Hlabse

Make sure you don't have relaying enabled.

- Original Message - 
From: Adil Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: Someone SPAM my Exchange Server 5.5 !Urgent Help


 Hello!
 In my Exchange servers IMS setting , huge amount of
 messages are waiting for delivery and the originators
 addresses are not in my network. I think this is
 Spamming . Can anyone tell me the solution of this
 problem.
 This is Urgent.
 Regards
 Adil
 
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Re: shared calendar on different domain.

2001-11-12 Thread Tony Hlabse

Try using www.slipstick.com for solutions. You might want to look at posting
a calendar in Public Folders.
- Original Message -
From: Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:17 AM
Subject: shared calendar on different domain.


Hi,
How do I set up a calandar that can be used by all users  in exchange
2000?

Kim

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Re: Someone SPAM my Exchange Server 5.5 !Urgent Help

2001-11-12 Thread Adil Azad

Relaying is enabled.
If i disable the relay option then what is the effect
can you tell me any document regarding the problem.
Regards
Adil
--- Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Make sure you don't have relaying enabled.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Adil Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:54 AM
 Subject: Someone SPAM my Exchange Server 5.5 !Urgent
 Help
 
 
  Hello!
  In my Exchange servers IMS setting , huge amount
 of
  messages are waiting for delivery and the
 originators
  addresses are not in my network. I think this is
  Spamming . Can anyone tell me the solution of this
  problem.
  This is Urgent.
  Regards
  Adil
  
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RE: Outlook blocked access to the following potentially unsafe - FOR THE LAST TIME!

2001-11-12 Thread Veitch, Michael

Shawn's Comment:
 The smarter solution would have been to remove the dangerous capabilities
 of
 their scripting language.  Is that so difficult for some to understand?
 
[Veitch, Michael]  
Sure is a very black and white picture you paint, is it safe to
assume that you don't do much scripting work? How do you remove dangerous
features from a script language, are you going to ask any companies like MS,
Sun, IBM etc to remove many standard practices that allows a programmer to
perform actions such as programmatically pressing F7 etc. Hopefully you'll
agree that this function should remain.

Well thanks for letting me maintain one standard method of
programming. Ha ha ha, I could now use this standard method of programming
to crash your workstations or servers*.  Is it a fault of the scripting
language, it most certainly is NOT.

Most of us realise, it is necessary to have various software
products in place that acts at the various tiers in order to reduce/stop
these scripts/exe before they do something they were never intended to do
(including exploiting issues with the underlying OS). 

Blaming anybody but the people that create scripts/exe to exploit
vulnerabilities is pointless (judging by what I have read, those of you who
feel strongly about this issue could replace by the word pointless with
stupid).

Why not get $issed at the people who write the programs that cause
us these headaches and even the people that propagate them **.


* A simple script version of the Command line vulnerability issue in
NT/W2k can be created using only keystrokes and run via a script  or from
any office product. I believe that it should work in Java as well. Not
really a major issue, it does highlight the point that the language is not
the only issue here (although I believe if properly constructed in could be
a real killer).


**  The people that propagate these viruses/scripts are also to
blame, lack of knowledge is no excuse, hey, aren't these people the real
reason why MS these additional security features! 

Mike
The script is mightier than the sword - and more cost effective !

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RE: backup

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

 The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's
 website.

That IS the definitive resource for Exchange Backup and Restore. And the
list archives can fill in most gaps that you might have.

Not to mention the FAQ has an excellent technique to avoid doing most
restores.

Roger
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Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: backup
 
 
 It does sound new to me, but I found very little in the FAQ about back
 up except what to use.
 
 I find the FAQ not very useful. Things like Open File Agent = BAD
 without an explanation is useless.
 
 The only reference I found was to an Exchange 5.5 whitepaper on MS's
 website.
 
 The discuss_exch2000 group has 10 entries for backup.
 
 The MS info I found here:
 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
 hnet/prodt
 echnol/exchange/maintain/operate/opsguide/e2kops5.asp
 
 It talks about off line storage but it doesn't talk about how I should
 stop the services to do an off-line backup. Do I have to manually stop
 everything first? I am backing up to disk using NTBackup.
 
 
 Mike Carlson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.domitianx.com
 
 Master Of The Spoon People
 Keeper Of None
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Josefowski, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:54 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: backup
  
  
  Have you backed up the server before?  The NT backup on the 
  Exchange server is a little different, and backs up the 
  Exchange Store, known as an on-line backup.  If this sounds 
  new to you, you haven't read the FAQ.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: BackUp
  
  
  I am going to use NTBackup to back up my exchange box. I have 
  selected system state, C: drive and Exchange.
  
  Are there any issues with doing this? Any recommendations?
  
  Thanks,
  
  
  Mike Carlson
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RE: IMC Errors

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

You have a file system antivirus scanner hitting that directory. Stop it
from doing that and bounce the IMC and you'll be fine

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Senior Systems Administrator
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Atlanta, GA
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 -Original Message-
 From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: IMC Errors
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 We have been getting the following error messages in Event 
 Viewer on our
 Exchange Server 5.5 SP3;
 
 Event ID 4128
 
 Failure setting file attributes on file 
 E:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\WFBRQJQS.
 The error code returned was The system cannot find the file 
 specified. .
 This is an unexpected error and the IMS is shutting down. 
 
 Followed by;
 
 Event ID 4093
 
 The error code 2 was returned when trying to remove the spool file
 E:\exchsrvr\imcdata\in\WFBRQJQS. This file may cause 
 duplicate mail to be
 sent when the server is restarted. 
 
 These are happening quite often, many times a day. Technet 
 lists nothing for
 that error message.
 
 Our mail server was recently used (abused) for anonymous mail 
 relaying,
 which has now been disabled. However, our IMCDATA folder is 
 now 1.6gb, and I
 don't know if this is related to the enormous amounts of mail 
 relayed, or
 indeed the problem in Event Viewer. 
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Nik
 
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RE: Why you don't like disclaimers...

2001-11-12 Thread .DL Helpdesk

nice analogy.   



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-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why you don't like disclaimers...


  Depends on what it is disclaiming.  For example, I have a 
disclaimer in
the personal sig I use when posting to public forums such as 
this, because
I
work for a company that provides professional computer 
services, and I want
to make it very clear that this is *me* talking, and not my 
employer.  That
makes sense to me on a personal level, and is legal for as much as it
says
(which is not much).

I would have Agreed with a deisclimer of that type, But this 
diclaimer is
one that starts with 
Content of this message is Private and Previladged ...

You have pretty clear arguments on disclimers Scott.. thats nice.,


Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 November 2001 22:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Why you don't like disclaimers...


On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Kuminda Chandimith wrote:
 I don't like disclaimers more than any of you do... But I 
want to show him
 why a disclaimer is such a useless idea.

  Depends on what it is disclaiming.  For example, I have a 
disclaimer in
the personal sig I use when posting to public forums such as 
this, because I
work for a company that provides professional computer 
services, and I want
to make it very clear that this is *me* talking, and not my 
employer.  That
makes sense to me on a personal level, and is legal for as 
much as it says
(which is not much).

  A company-wide disclaimer that says, in effect, Email is not 
secure; do
not use it for confidential information are a little tacky but not
unreasonable.

  On the other hand...

  Company-wide disclaimers that say the information is confidential are
worse than useless, IMNSHO.  The Internet is a public network; posting
confidential information to a public network is an obvious 
failure of due
diligence.  Conceivably, a good lawyer could even make the case 
that since
you posted confidential information to a public network, you no longer
consider the information confidential, and thus release your 
rights to it
(of course, a good lawyer can argue anything).

  Most of all, I dislike company-wide disclaimers because I 
think they look
tacky.  When I correspond with our customers by snail-mail, I 
do not include
blanket notices of confidentiality or disclaimers of warranty.  To do so
would be arrogant, condescending, and rude.  So, I do not do so 
for email,
either.

  Ask your boss: Which is more important, covering yourself with a
cellophane fig-leaf, or looking professional to your customers?

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QA: OWA in forgien country

2001-11-12 Thread Shields, Anthony

Hi guys, just came back from Mexico, Cozumel and had an interesting
problem with OWA...Just wondering if anyone else has tried it out of
country, etc...

While in Mexico, I used several different cyber shops in Cancun and
Cozumel to check email.  At one shop I could get access to OWA and see
and read my messages.

Several other shops that I used, I could sign in and get the OWA screen
but none of the messages would appear.  Said 0 objects/messages or
whatever...Tried changing my message settings to show
unread/etc...still, the messages would not appear.

Any ideas?

I thought it was interesting as well, that at various places once signed
in, OWA came up in Spanish.  And even the System Administrator named
messages, changed names to the Spanish equivalent.

Not really asking for tech support more of general QA...as I'm back, and
it's not like the machines I was using I could have made modifications
to, etc...


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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 7:36 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 Who are these customers that demanded such code features that 
 could create
 destructive payloads?  

Most customers who have used MS OSs since the DOS days, not to mention those
exposed to *nix, like the ability to script just about any change to the OS,
which was sorely lacking from NT4 and before. VBS added that ability. The
additional burden being that a more complex OS to configure (i.e. no INI or
.conf files) means a more complex way to configure it. Batch scripting has
always been a joke compared to the competition's scripting support.

Do you think Microsoft pulls these features out of their nether regions?
They listen to their customers when they request a feature. Just like any
good software company does. To do anything else is harmful to the business.

 You're just repeating Microsoft rhetoric!

No, I'm stating reality. I administer both Unix and Windows systems, as well
as having experience with Novell. While I make my living administering
Microsoft products, there are plenty of times when I look at a different
solution because its a better fit for the requirements.

I have a lot of problems with some of the Microsoft practices, especially
with regards to security. Then again, I look at RedHat, who is taking Linux
in the same direction that Microsoft took Windows NT/2000 - in order to make
a computer easier to use, there is going to be a corresponding security
trade off. Unfortunately for Microsoft, they made the ease of use strides
before InfoSec became the issue that it is today.

 Microsoft, hell, the world knew about the dangerous potential 
 of the vb
 scripting language for many years; why didn't Microsoft do 
 something about
 this sooner?

So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds worth of work
(literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all these
scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines? In fact, one of our
subscribers posted to the list, probably around either Melissa or ILOVEYOU,
everything you needed to make that change via a login script.

Again, the onus here rests on the Administrator to know and understand the
ramifications of technologies, and to make an informed decision as to
whether or not they are employed. Being a manager, it should be that much
easier to disable unnecessary services on your users' machines.

I only know of one OS that is truly security focused. All others look at
security as a small piece of their total strategy.

Roger
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:08 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
  No.. I have customers who utilize scripting technologies in their
  Exchange forms.
 
   Yes, but do those scripts need unrestricted access to the 
 entire local
 system?  Could they not be implemented in a (theoretically) 
 secure sandbox?
 
In some cases, yes, they do. In others, they only need access to one
application. For instance, we use an expense reporting tool that uses your
MAPI profile to email reports from the clients to its server. So, it has
access to your MAPI profile only - it still has access to do exactly what
Melissa and ILOVEYOU did.

Scripting languages are only useful to the extent at which they can access
system resources.


   Given the choice between script viruses and having to use a 
 different
 interface, I think most companies would choose the different 
 interface.  Do
 you disagree?
 
  I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me that 
 every useful
  scripting language is potentially dangerous.
 
   True.  However, most scripting languages don't 
 automatically execute when
 emailed to you... :-)

Neither does VBScript. Oh, that's right, I know enough to set my scripting
preferences such that I have to explicitly call the script to execute it. I
guess I was doing my job that day.




 
  We keep the pervious threads in place ...
 
   I think there is an important difference between 
 maintaining the thread
 of conversation and quoting entire messages verbatim, including
 signatures.  :-)
 



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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Roger Seielstad wrote:
 Most customers who have used MS OSs since the DOS days, not to mention
 those exposed to *nix, like the ability to script just about any change
 to the OS ...

  The issue is not scripting per se, but the fact that MS Outlook and MSIE
have a long history of just running whatever the other guy sends to you,
without regard for the fact that it may be harmful to your computer.

 Do you think Microsoft pulls these features out of their nether regions?

  How else do you explain that damn paperclip?  ;-)

 So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds worth of
 work (literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all
 these scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines?

  Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* mistakes?  I paid good
money for their software; it is unreasonable to expect it to be secure in
the default configuration?

 Again, the onus here rests on the Administrator ...

  What about the millions of home users who don't know even know how to
spell VBS?

  The estimates I hear state that viruses and worms due to poor design on
Microsoft's part cost billions of dollars per year.  Don't you think
billions of dollars is a bit much?

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RE: OWA in forgien country

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Harford

OWA 2000?

It's possible that some of the cybercafes had firewalls that claim to pass
http1.1, but in fact do not do it properly.  This results in your being able
to get into OWA but then not see messages in the Inbox (amongst other
things).  The simplest solution seems to be to ensure that your browser does
not use http1.1 through proxy connections.

As for the language business - sounds like it's working very well!

Mark H
x50668


-Original Message-
From: Shields, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 November 2001 13:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: QA: OWA in forgien country


Hi guys, just came back from Mexico, Cozumel and had an interesting problem
with OWA...Just wondering if anyone else has tried it out of country, etc...

While in Mexico, I used several different cyber shops in Cancun and Cozumel
to check email.  At one shop I could get access to OWA and see and read my
messages.

Several other shops that I used, I could sign in and get the OWA screen but
none of the messages would appear.  Said 0 objects/messages or
whatever...Tried changing my message settings to show unread/etc...still,
the messages would not appear.

Any ideas?

I thought it was interesting as well, that at various places once signed in,
OWA came up in Spanish.  And even the System Administrator named messages,
changed names to the Spanish equivalent.

Not really asking for tech support more of general QA...as I'm back, and
it's not like the machines I was using I could have made modifications to,
etc...


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RE: How do you restrict the number of attachments in a message?

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

You can't without investing in a 3rd party product? Why would you want to?

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:39 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do you restrict the number of attachments in a message?
 
 
 Does any one know how to restrict the number of attachments 
 included in an email? There is a 5MB size limit setting for 
 the email but I would like to know how to limit the number of 
 attachments included in an email.
 
 
 
 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Carlson


 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Roger Seielstad wrote:
  Most customers who have used MS OSs since the DOS days, not 
 to mention 
  those exposed to *nix, like the ability to script just about any 
  change to the OS ...
 
   The issue is not scripting per se, but the fact that MS 
 Outlook and MSIE have a long history of just running whatever 
 the other guy sends to you, without regard for the fact that 
 it may be harmful to your computer.
 
  Do you think Microsoft pulls these features out of their nether 
  regions?
 
   How else do you explain that damn paperclip?  ;-)

The paper clip was quite popular when it first came out. If it wouldn't
show up every 2.85 seconds in Windows, it wouldn't be hated the way it
is now.

 
  So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds 
 worth of 
  work (literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all 
  these scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines?
 
   Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* 
 mistakes?  I paid good money for their software; it is 
 unreasonable to expect it to be secure in the default configuration?

If you have been working with Microsoft's software for any amount of
time over a week you should know that their software is open until
closed, where as most other applications and operating systems are
closed until open.

You do NOT have any type of access to a *nix box unless given permission
to. Same with Novell. Micrsoft on the other hand gives you full blown
rights to just about everything out of the box.

It has always been that way, this is nothing new.

 
  Again, the onus here rests on the Administrator ...
 
   What about the millions of home users who don't know even 
 know how to spell VBS?

That ths advantage of Windows. You don't need to spell VBS, it adds it
for you and the user will never see it unless they take the time to
change that setting.

 
   The estimates I hear state that viruses and worms due to 
 poor design on Microsoft's part cost billions of dollars per 
 year.  Don't you think billions of dollars is a bit much?

So you did hear about the customers that complained about MS security. I
thought you were unaware of anyone that complained about MS software
being vulnerable. Hmmm..

No I don't think that is a lot of money considering how large of a
penetration Outlook has in the Corp. world. The amount of bandwidth
consumed from all the emails, the crashed mail servers, support costs.
That really isnt a lot of money in the big scheme of things.

 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
   The issue is not scripting per se, but the fact that MS 
 Outlook and MSIE
 have a long history of just running whatever the other guy 
 sends to you,
 without regard for the fact that it may be harmful to your computer.

Easily fixed through proper configuration.

 
  Do you think Microsoft pulls these features out of their 
 nether regions?
 
   How else do you explain that damn paperclip?  ;-)

I concede on that one - but only that one.

 
  So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds worth of
  work (literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all
  these scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines?
 
   Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* 
 mistakes?  I paid good
 money for their software; it is unreasonable to expect it to 
 be secure in
 the default configuration?

Because its your job? You want a secure default install, OpenBSD is
available from http://www.openbsd.org. There are NO other Open Systems OSs
that I know of that are truly secure out of the box. Even OpenBSD isn't
completely secure out of the box, but its closer (by leaps and bounds) than
any other.

 
  Again, the onus here rests on the Administrator ...
 
   What about the millions of home users who don't know even 
 know how to
 spell VBS?

I don't have this issue at home... The problem here is that companies looked
and said Hey - I can save $150/seat buying Win9x rather than NT
Workstation for my x number of machines. WOW - look at how much money I
saved. Hey Microsoft, why can't this half priced OS do these things??
Again, customers drive business.

   The estimates I hear state that viruses and worms due to 
 poor design on
 Microsoft's part cost billions of dollars per year.  Don't you think
 billions of dollars is a bit much?

Most of those estimates are complete fabrications based on lost
productivity, etc. Then again, I also practice sane management of email not
only at work but home. I've used email a lot longer than I've administered
networks (going on 20 years of email use, frankly) and common sense has
prevailed through all of it. I guess that's too much to ask of most people
though.

Roger
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Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com

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RE: Does The Exchange 2000 work without DNS?

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Have you tested any of this in your lab? Installing E2K into your production
environment without any testing is um... sub-optimal. DNS does not need to
be installed on the box Exchange is installed on, but E2K absolutely needs
properly functioning AD and DNS in the environment to function properly. 

There are a number of good whitepapers, and there's a brand new book by Jim
McBee on E2K I think you're still heavily in the research phase and
ought to save potential implementation questions until after a few weeks of
serious reading.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:30 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Does The Exchange 2000 work without DNS?
 
 
  would like to install Exchange 2000 on a windows 2000 DC 
 server. I have not installed the DNS services on this server; 
 however I know Exchange 2000 needs DNS. I have heard that 
 there is a registry setting that enables you to run Exchange 
 2000 without having a DNS service. I would appreciate it if 
 someone would tell me how to do this.

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RE: shared calendar on different domain.

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

What do domains have to do with calendars? I think there's some essential
technical information being left out of this discussion.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: shared calendar on different domain.
 
 
 Hi, 
 How do I set up a calandar that can be used by all users  in 
 exchange 2000? 

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E2K Mailbox Manager Question

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Moore

I've been running the E2K Mailbox Manager for the last few weeks, using
it to delete all email older than 30 days. Suddenly, it has stopped
working. (Or at least it has stopped notifying me that it's working.)
I've tried setting it up again, to no avail. Anybody know why it might
have stopped working? Or what I could monitor to figure it out? There's
nothing in Event Viewer about it. The only change I've made to the
server since it stopped working was applying the information store patch
(Q30451engi386.exe).

Thanks,
Rob
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Network Administrator
The Agnes Irwin School
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

  So, you're not aware of the fact that with about 30 seconds 
 worth of 
  work (literally), you could write a script that would alleviate all 
  these scripting vulnerabilities on all your machines?
 
   Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* 
 mistakes?  I paid good money for their software; it is 
 unreasonable to expect it to be secure in the default configuration?

You're just being a troll like Shawn now right? If you're not going to add
anything useful to the conversation, why even have it?

You don't apply security patches for vulnerabilities in any OS or
application. Taking an extremist position just makes you look like an idiot.

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RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML

2001-11-12 Thread Allison Wittstock

Hi Tom,

I will answer the questions in-line.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, you wrote:
 I'm not really sure what your architecture is here. Are you saying that
 you have two separate email systems; one for internet mail and one for
 intranet mail? My first question, if this is the case, is why?

Yes, one server is located in the office for internal mail (it is also the SMTP
Server - we only send emails thru this server).  The other server is located
externally at a hosting company.  We only check our external mail from this
server, and do not use it for sending our mail.
Why? Well the best reason is cost. We have to pay for external traffic (traffic
that flows from the office to the outside).  So when we email each other
internally we don't have to pay for the traffic.


 If the above is correct, you have probably made a change on your Linux
 system that is causing it to have an issue with the fact that E2K sends
 each message as both plain text and HTML. If that is the case you can
 either find out what you changed and remove the change or get your Linux
 people to fix it. The next option is to change the default Internet Mail
 Format to just plaintext.


Nothing has changed on the linux system.  I am the Linux people.

 
 By default E2K sends all internet mail as both plaint text and HTML.
 Some non-Exchange systems have trouble with this. For those domains that
 have an issue you can set up domain exceptions under Global
 Settings/Internet Message Format in ESM. Choose to send plain text OR
 HTML rather than both.


So its a feature that internet mail is sent twice? OR am I misunderstanding? 
But right now, my setting is Message test as unformatted Text.  The both is
unchecked.

 
 If your problem is just with a few external domains, you might want to
 try an exception for one of the effected domains to see if the result is
 better.

It seems to be coming only from about half the users, to anywhere they send
emails.


 Tom.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:04 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
 
 Hi,
 
 A recent problem has appeared in which emails sent by the Exchange users
 are
 being received twice.  The plain text message header shows it being sent
 from
 the user machine, to the internal linux mail server to the recipient.
 The HTML
 mail has the same sent-time, but the receiving time is minutes later.
 The
 header for these mails show it going to the Exchange server to the
 recipient.
 
 Is there a way to stop this without removing the Internet Mail account
 from
 the Services list?  The users need to check both the internal mail
 (Exchange)
 and the external (Internet Mail).  
 
 The clients are using Outlook 2000 and the server is 2000 also.
 
 Note:  Although the Exchange server has been in place for some months,
 this
 problem has recently appeared.
 
 Thanks,
 A.W.
 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Ed Crowley

Nobody can see everything coming.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Lucas
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 9:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


  If architects built buildings the way programmers write programs, the
first woodpecker to come along would have destroyed civilization.
   -- I forget who

Actually, if you remember the events of 9-11, you can clearly see that even
the noble architect doesn't see everything coming.


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RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box

2001-11-12 Thread Ed Crowley

XCOPY or SCOPY.  But it might not work right.  You should follow the advice
given to you or research your own alternates.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Move Exchange 2k to a different box


Is there a tool I can use to move everything off the old box to the new
box? I was just planning on installing exchange on the other box (which
is a member of the same domain), get it up to date and them move
everything over to it.


Mike Carlson
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RE: OWA on Exchange 2000

2001-11-12 Thread Ed Crowley

To clarify, that front-end box would require E2K Enterprise Edition.  To be
fair, though, an OWA front-end box does a whole lot more in E2K than it used
to.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Chan
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA on Exchange 2000


That is true.  In order to put OWA on a separate machine that doesn't
host your mailboxes, you still have to install E2K on that box (which is
not required in E5.5) and mark that box as FrontEnd Server.   There has
been extensive discussions in recent past on the list.  You should find
many helpful suggestions if you do a little more digging on the list's
archive.


Andrew,
MCSE (NT + W2K) + CCNA


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RE: OWA on Exchange 2000

2001-11-12 Thread Tom Meunier

...or you could just keep your OWA 5.5 box in place, serving up OWA
5.5-style ASP pages as it's always done.  There's a whitepaper on
Frontend/Backend configuration you'll want to read:
http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/techinfo/deployment/2000/e2kfrontback.
asp 

 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:20 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: OWA on Exchange 2000
 Subject: RE: OWA on Exchange 2000
 
 
 That is true.  In order to put OWA on a separate machine that doesn't
 host your mailboxes, you still have to install E2K on that 
 box (which is
 not required in E5.5) and mark that box as FrontEnd Server.   
 There has
 been extensive discussions in recent past on the list.  You 
 should find
 many helpful suggestions if you do a little more digging on the list's
 archive.
 
 
 Andrew,
 MCSE (NT + W2K) + CCNA
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Haigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:18 PM
 Posted To: NewsgroupDiscussion
 Conversation: OWA on Exchange 2000
 Subject: OWA on Exchange 2000
 
 We are looking at upgrading to E2K and currently have OWA 
 setup on a web
 server seperate to our Exchange Server 5.5 machine. One of my 
 technical
 guys
 after researching this has said that this configuration is 
 not possible
 in a
 E2K enviroment. Is this true. Surely you can have a scenario where web
 part
 is in the DMZ and the actual exchange server is on the inside network,
 although I do realise that OWA is more integrated in E2K but I would
 have
 thought the web part would be transportable.
 
 Thanks
 
 Andy
 

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RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

The contents of the message body are included twice by default in Outlook
(and most other mail clients) once as HTML and once as plain text... But the
messages aren't sent twice. In order to know what is really going on, I
think you'll need to turn up logging and watch what is being sent from
Exchange.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:49 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
 
 
 Hi Tom,
 
 I will answer the questions in-line.
 
 On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, you wrote:
  I'm not really sure what your architecture is here. Are you saying 
  that you have two separate email systems; one for internet mail and 
  one for intranet mail? My first question, if this is the 
 case, is why?
 
 Yes, one server is located in the office for internal mail 
 (it is also the SMTP Server - we only send emails thru this 
 server).  The other server is located externally at a hosting 
 company.  We only check our external mail from this server, 
 and do not use it for sending our mail. Why? Well the best 
 reason is cost. We have to pay for external traffic (traffic 
 that flows from the office to the outside).  So when we email 
 each other internally we don't have to pay for the traffic.
 
 
  If the above is correct, you have probably made a change on 
 your Linux 
  system that is causing it to have an issue with the fact that E2K 
  sends each message as both plain text and HTML. If that is the case 
  you can either find out what you changed and remove the 
 change or get 
  your Linux people to fix it. The next option is to change 
 the default 
  Internet Mail Format to just plaintext.
 
 
 Nothing has changed on the linux system.  I am the Linux people.
 
  
  By default E2K sends all internet mail as both plaint text 
 and HTML. 
  Some non-Exchange systems have trouble with this. For those domains 
  that have an issue you can set up domain exceptions under Global 
  Settings/Internet Message Format in ESM. Choose to send 
 plain text OR 
  HTML rather than both.
 
 
 So its a feature that internet mail is sent twice? OR am I 
 misunderstanding? 
 But right now, my setting is Message test as unformatted 
 Text.  The both is unchecked.
 
  
  If your problem is just with a few external domains, you 
 might want to 
  try an exception for one of the effected domains to see if 
 the result 
  is better.
 
 It seems to be coming only from about half the users, to 
 anywhere they send emails.
 
 
  Tom.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:04 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
  
  Hi,
  
  A recent problem has appeared in which emails sent by the Exchange 
  users are being received twice.  The plain text message 
 header shows 
  it being sent from
  the user machine, to the internal linux mail server to the 
 recipient.
  The HTML
  mail has the same sent-time, but the receiving time is 
 minutes later.
  The
  header for these mails show it going to the Exchange server to the
  recipient.
  
  Is there a way to stop this without removing the Internet Mail 
  account from the Services list?  The users need to check both the 
  internal mail
  (Exchange)
  and the external (Internet Mail).
  
  The clients are using Outlook 2000 and the server is 2000 also.
  
  Note:  Although the Exchange server has been in place for 
 some months, 
  this problem has recently appeared.
  
  Thanks,
  A.W.
  
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calendar views

2001-11-12 Thread Hansen, Eric

Does anyone know of a way to get more then 6 items to show on the calendar
for any one time?  I have 2 or 3 accounts that we use to schedule meeting
rooms and they only show up to 6, I suggested breaking the information down
into more schedules but apparently they don't want that.

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RE: calendar views

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Write a custom calendar view control using CDO.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: calendar views
 
 
 Does anyone know of a way to get more then 6 items to show on 
 the calendar for any one time?  I have 2 or 3 accounts that 
 we use to schedule meeting rooms and they only show up to 6, 
 I suggested breaking the information down into more schedules 
 but apparently they don't want that.
 
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RE: calendar views

2001-11-12 Thread Hansen, Eric

Cdo?  I don't have a drop of programming talent, does that matter?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: calendar views

Write a custom calendar view control using CDO.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: calendar views
 
 
 Does anyone know of a way to get more then 6 items to show on 
 the calendar for any one time?  I have 2 or 3 accounts that 
 we use to schedule meeting rooms and they only show up to 6, 
 I suggested breaking the information down into more schedules 
 but apparently they don't want that.
 
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RE: calendar views

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Probably matters a great deal, unless you have minions who can program or a
budget to shop out some contract work. Might check www.cdolive.com. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: calendar views
 
 
 Cdo?  I don't have a drop of programming talent, does that matter?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:17 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: calendar views
 
 Write a custom calendar view control using CDO.
 
 Chris
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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:26 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: calendar views
  
  
  Does anyone know of a way to get more then 6 items to show on
  the calendar for any one time?  I have 2 or 3 accounts that 
  we use to schedule meeting rooms and they only show up to 6, 
  I suggested breaking the information down into more schedules 
  but apparently they don't want that.
  
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RE: calendar views

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Harford

Schedule Plus used to do this ok!  I remember complaints about this issue
when we moved everyone to using Outlook.

Try www.slipstick.com.

Mark H
x50668


-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: calendar views


Cdo?  I don't have a drop of programming talent, does that matter?

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Subject: RE: calendar views

Write a custom calendar view control using CDO.

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Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Am currently watching Exch2k create 85,000 mailboxes (after adding the users
thro' the LDIFDE tool) and I have a question - How many mailboxes can
Exchange create this way?
For those who want further clarification:created 80,000 domain users,
verified they had domain accounts created in AD users and computers.
Went to Exch2K box and highlighted all the recently created users
(CTRL+A)from the AD users and computers, right-clicked, and scrolled
down to 'Exchange Tasks' and selected the 'Create mailbox' option from the
wizard menu.
So what is the limit in enabling by this method? Does anyone know? Not
horrifically important I know, except to those of us who have to create and
enable 50,000+ users 3 or 4 times a day but it would be a handy fact to
know.

Regards
E.


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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java should be like.
Pure Java uses a Sun Java approved runtime (like IBM's).

JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and doesn't really
have a sandbox.  Only the real Java does.

Nathan 

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:26 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
  I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me that every
  useful scripting language is potentially dangerous.
 
True.  However, most scripting languages don't
  automatically execute when emailed to you... :-)
 
  JavaScript will in HTML email.
 
   JavaScript is sandboxed.
 
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RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, I think by default not all 80k users would be displayed ADUC, so at
most it would be whatever the default subset limit is... :)

Have you thought about just creating the users as mail enabled or mail
enabling them via script instead of the UI? Perhaps the script at
http://www.swinc.com/resource/scripts.htm might help.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Simultaneous mailbox creation
 
 
 
 Am currently watching Exch2k create 85,000 mailboxes (after 
 adding the users thro' the LDIFDE tool) and I have a question 
 - How many mailboxes can Exchange create this way? For those 
 who want further clarification:created 80,000 domain 
 users, verified they had domain accounts created in AD users 
 and computers. Went to Exch2K box and highlighted all the 
 recently created users (CTRL+A)from the AD users and 
 computers, right-clicked, and scrolled down to 'Exchange 
 Tasks' and selected the 'Create mailbox' option from the 
 wizard menu. So what is the limit in enabling by this method? 
 Does anyone know? Not horrifically important I know, except 
 to those of us who have to create and enable 50,000+ users 3 
 or 4 times a day but it would be a handy fact to know.
 
 Regards
 E.
 
 
 If a user already has a mailbox created, the Task Wiz. 
 realises this, gives the user an: already has an e-mail 
 address message and moves on to processing the next user.

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Outlook 2000 Rules?

2001-11-12 Thread Desmond Witherspoon

Hey all, 
I'm trying to set some rules so that the emails from this
list gets diverted to the appropriate folder. Which is great (in theory)
the problem is that none of the rules seem to work. 

Desmond Witherspoon 
Network and PC Support Technician 
Metropolitan New York Library Council 
57 East 11th Street 
New York, NY 10003


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Public address book views

2001-11-12 Thread Tener, Richard

Is there a way to have exchange 5.5 automatically have contacts viewed as
last name, first name, company.  So that someone creates a new contact it is
saved in that order all the time.






rgds
Rich

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RE: Outlook 2000 Rules?

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Checked the FAQ?

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 -Original Message-
 From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:11 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2000 Rules?
 
 
 Hey all, 
 I'm trying to set some rules so that the emails from this
 list gets diverted to the appropriate folder. Which is great 
 (in theory) the problem is that none of the rules seem to work. 
 
 Desmond Witherspoon 
 Network and PC Support Technician 
 Metropolitan New York Library Council 
 57 East 11th Street 
 New York, NY 10003

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RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


Hi Chris...

 I don't see what the max display settings have to do with mailbox creation
other than the admin not being able to see the accounts to create the
mailboxes. Is there any more to this? I know I have created the accounts so
of course I am going to have the Exch2K AD users  comps to display more
than the number I have created.

There is no need for me to use scripts to create the mailboxes, the UI works
fine.

So anyone else know the magic max. no. which can be created this way?

Regards
E.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation


Well, I think by default not all 80k users would be displayed ADUC, so at
most it would be whatever the default subset limit is... :)

Have you thought about just creating the users as mail enabled or mail
enabling them via script instead of the UI? Perhaps the script at
http://www.swinc.com/resource/scripts.htm might help.


Chris
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage!


 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Subject: Simultaneous mailbox creation

Am currently watching Exch2k create 85,000 mailboxes (after
 adding the users thro' the LDIFDE tool) and I have a question
 - How many mailboxes can Exchange create this way? For those
 who want further clarification:created 80,000 domain
 users, verified they had domain accounts created in AD users
 and computers. Went to Exch2K box and highlighted all the
 recently created users (CTRL+A)from the AD users and
 computers, right-clicked, and scrolled down to 'Exchange
 Tasks' and selected the 'Create mailbox' option from the
 wizard menu. So what is the limit in enabling by this method?
 Does anyone know? Not horrifically important I know, except
 to those of us who have to create and enable 50,000+ users 3
 or 4 times a day but it would be a handy fact to know.

 Regards
 E.


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 realises this, gives the user an: already has an e-mail
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RE: Public address book views

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Exchange 5.5 doesn't know anything about contacts. Contacts are either an
Outlook client construct or an AD object. Exchange 5.5 does know about
Custom Recipients and the answer to the same question when applied to CRs is
absolutely. Create the CRs with that display name and that's how they'll
appear.

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 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:24 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Public address book views
 
 
 Is there a way to have exchange 5.5 automatically have 
 contacts viewed as last name, first name, company.  So that 
 someone creates a new contact it is saved in that order all the time.

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RE: Public address book views

2001-11-12 Thread Tener, Richard

ok thanks

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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public address book views


Exchange 5.5 doesn't know anything about contacts. Contacts are either an
Outlook client construct or an AD object. Exchange 5.5 does know about
Custom Recipients and the answer to the same question when applied to CRs is
absolutely. Create the CRs with that display name and that's how they'll
appear.

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:24 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Public address book views
 
 
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 someone creates a new contact it is saved in that order all the time.

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RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

  I don't see what the max display settings have to do with 
 mailbox creation other than the admin not being able to see 
 the accounts to create the mailboxes. Is there any more to 
 this? 

Nope.

I know I have created the accounts so of course I am 
 going to have the Exch2K AD users  comps to display more 
 than the number I have created.
 
 There is no need for me to use scripts to create the 
 mailboxes, the UI works fine.

With 80k users 2 or 3 times a day, my assumption that programmatic
modification would save a considerable amount of time.

 So anyone else know the magic max. no. which can be created this way?

AFIK there isn't one.

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RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Farrell


You mis-understand me, these are all test environs. There are 3/4 different
domain models built from scratch every day, each with a min. of 80,000 users
on them. I have a turn around of an hour a domain which I am quite happy
with. (Using ghost for the OS's, LDIFDE to record the users in the domain to
a text file, simple old Find/Replace to change the domain name/user
name/whatever and LDIFDE to restore the users to the new domain, then the
Exchange wiz. to create the mailboxes.

The question was not about scripting altho' I appreciate the
suggestion..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation


  I don't see what the max display settings have to do with
 mailbox creation other than the admin not being able to see
 the accounts to create the mailboxes. Is there any more to
 this?

Nope.

I know I have created the accounts so of course I am
 going to have the Exch2K AD users  comps to display more
 than the number I have created.

 There is no need for me to use scripts to create the
 mailboxes, the UI works fine.

With 80k users 2 or 3 times a day, my assumption that programmatic
modification would save a considerable amount of time.

 So anyone else know the magic max. no. which can be created this way?

AFIK there isn't one.


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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Randal, Phil

Netscape's invention, actually.

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/04/06/js_history.html

Phil

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 -Original Message-
 From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 November 2001 16:18
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java 
 should be like.
 Pure Java uses a Sun Java approved runtime (like IBM's).
 
 JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and 
 doesn't really
 have a sandbox.  Only the real Java does.
 
 Nathan 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:26 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
  
  
  On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
   I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me that every
   useful scripting language is potentially dangerous.
  
 True.  However, most scripting languages don't
   automatically execute when emailed to you... :-)
  
   JavaScript will in HTML email.
  
JavaScript is sandboxed.
  
  -- 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

Something compelled me to differentiate Java vs JavaScript.  Pedantic? :)

Absolutely, anybody that uses a software package in its default
configuration qualifies for the idiot title.

Nathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:16 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 This is all pretty irrelevant to the initial post isn't it? 
 Yes, Microsoft
 has some serious security issues.[1] I'm sure Nathan agrees that still
 doesn't excuse an administrator from due diligence in 
 applying fixes or
 securing machines which is where this thread really began... 
 and should have
 died. *sigh*
 
 [1] Preaching to the choir gets a tad old.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:18 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
  
  
  JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java 
  should be like. Pure Java uses a Sun Java approved runtime 
  (like IBM's).
  
  JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and 
  doesn't really have a sandbox.  Only the real Java does.
  
  Nathan 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:26 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
   
   
   On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me 
  that every 
useful scripting language is potentially dangerous.
   
  True.  However, most scripting languages don't automatically 
execute when emailed to you... :-)
   
JavaScript will in HTML email.
   
 JavaScript is sandboxed.
   
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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Randal, Phil

They are the transaction logs created since the last full
backup of your exchange databases (by exchange-aware backup programs).

They normally get deleted after a successful backup.

Phil

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 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 12 November 2001 16:59
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: I need help with edb*.log files
 
 
 I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How 
 do they get
 cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them?
 
 Thank You,
 Robert Williams
 Senior Network Administrator
 Raypak, Inc.
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 Phone - 805-278-5363
 FAX - 818-464-6982
 www.raypak.com
 
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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Dupler, Craig

The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they
were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years.

Hi Chris.

For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those
routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and
sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
thought it might be nice to drop in.

Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?

By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts
(she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went
RTM, and well the rest is history.

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think
Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.

However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and not with MS

Darcy

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the
whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?






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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

That was before Embrace and Extend(tm)

http://www.news.com/Perspectives/js/js8_1_97a.html

didn't I read something about Antitrust, Netscape and Microsoft?  nah,
nevermind..  bad dream.

 -Original Message-
 From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:44 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 Netscape's invention, actually.
 
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/javascript/2001/04/06/js_history.html
 
 Phil
 
 -
 Phil Randal
 Network Engineer
 Herefordshire Council
 Hereford, UK 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Black, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 12 November 2001 16:18
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
  
  
  JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java 
  should be like.
  Pure Java uses a Sun Java approved runtime (like IBM's).
  
  JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and 
  doesn't really
  have a sandbox.  Only the real Java does.
  
  Nathan 
  
   -Original Message-
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   Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:26 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
   
   
   On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about. Seems to me 
 that every
useful scripting language is potentially dangerous.
   
  True.  However, most scripting languages don't
automatically execute when emailed to you... :-)
   
JavaScript will in HTML email.
   
 JavaScript is sandboxed.
   
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Re: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Kelly_Borndale


Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written.  If
you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't
see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when
backing up.
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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Joyce, Louis

Please stay!

:)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 November 2001 17:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they
were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years.

Hi Chris.

For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those
routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and
sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
thought it might be nice to drop in.

Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?

By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts
(she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went
RTM, and well the rest is history.

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think
Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.

However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and not with MS

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the
whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?






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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Black, Nathan wrote:
 JavaScript is Microsoft's concoction of what they felt Java should be
 like.

  (Totally off-topic at this point, but what the heck... :)

  JavaScript (now (being?) standardized as ECMAScript) was originally called
LiveScript, and was developed by Netscape as a client-side scripting
language for web pages.  When Netscape and Sun noticed how similar
LiveScript and Java-the-language were, they decided to turn it into a
feature.

  I think C# might be accurately called what Microsoft felt Java should be
like, but I don't speak for Microsoft.  :)

 JavaScript has just about the same issues as VBscript, and doesn't
 really have a sandbox.

  H.  Well, it does in Mozilla.  I'm not familiar enough with MSIE's
implementation to say for sure, but I'll take your word for it.

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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh?

They had Exchange back then?  I thought everybody just used refrigerators
and post-it notes...

 -Original Message-
 From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Hi
 
 
 The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named 
 Eppie and they
 were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in 
 two years.
 
 Hi Chris.
 
 For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
 considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago 
 when one of those
 routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I 
 let it sit, and
 sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
 thought it might be nice to drop in.
 
 Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
 interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?
 
 By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, 
 called Bravehearts
 (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months 
 before 4.0 went
 RTM, and well the rest is history.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Hi
 
 
 I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I 
 don't think
 Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.
 
 However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and 
 not with MS
 
 Darcy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Hi
 
 
 Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that 
 remembers or knows the
 whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Outlook 2 Exchange connection Issue

2001-11-12 Thread John Q Jr.

I have just implemented a EX 5.5 SP 4 on Win 2K over a WAN, mail solution.
Recently when remote users, 165 total, send mail it sits in their Outbox
for approx. 10 to 20 minutes, using Outlook 2K. No matter how many times
they click on Send/Recieve.  They also say that they get mail in bateches,
having me believe that the connection is slow. But the pings show between
10-20ms return times.
Is there a way to adjust the connection settings to cleints?
Also I noticed when any user clicks on any old messages in their mailbox
that sits on the eserver, mail is immediatly sent. I don't understand what
that does different than clicking Send/Recieve!
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
-John Q

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RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation....

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

I understood these to be test environs, just offering a suggestion for
further automation. 
 
 You mis-understand me, these are all test environs. There are 
 3/4 different domain models built from scratch every day, 
 each with a min. of 80,000 users on them. I have a turn 
 around of an hour a domain which I am quite happy with. 
 (Using ghost for the OS's, LDIFDE to record the users in the 
 domain to a text file, simple old Find/Replace to change the 
 domain name/user name/whatever and LDIFDE to restore the 
 users to the new domain, then the Exchange wiz. to create the 
 mailboxes.
 
 The question was not about scripting altho' I appreciate the 
 suggestion..
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Simultaneous mailbox creation
 
 
   I don't see what the max display settings have to do with mailbox 
  creation other than the admin not being able to see the accounts to 
  create the mailboxes. Is there any more to this?
 
 Nope.
 
 I know I have created the accounts so of course I am
  going to have the Exch2K AD users  comps to display more  than the 
 number I have created.
 
  There is no need for me to use scripts to create the 
 mailboxes, the UI 
  works fine.
 
 With 80k users 2 or 3 times a day, my assumption that 
 programmatic modification would save a considerable amount of time.
 
  So anyone else know the magic max. no. which can be created 
 this way?
 
 AFIK there isn't one.
 
 
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RE: Outlook 2 Exchange connection Issue

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

http://mail-resources.com/koans/51899.htm

Chris
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 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Outlook 2 Exchange connection Issue
 
 
 I have just implemented a EX 5.5 SP 4 on Win 2K over a WAN, 
 mail solution. Recently when remote users, 165 total, send 
 mail it sits in their Outbox for approx. 10 to 20 minutes, 
 using Outlook 2K. No matter how many times they click on 
 Send/Recieve.  They also say that they get mail in 
 bateches, having me believe that the connection is slow. But 
 the pings show between 10-20ms return times. Is there a way 
 to adjust the connection settings to cleints? Also I noticed 
 when any user clicks on any old messages in their mailbox 
 that sits on the eserver, mail is immediatly sent. I don't 
 understand what that does different than clicking 
 Send/Recieve! Any help is appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 -John Q
 
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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Williams

I backup my server with Veritas Backup Execall of these files were
generated in 1 day.Can I delete these without any problems?

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
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Phone - 805-278-5363
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files



Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written.  If
you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see
quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up.
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RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

I've seen this happen on some of the other lists I'm on.  Thank heaven for
procmail and mutt. :) 

It seems only the HTML replies from Outlook 2xxx users on Exchange 2k that
have this happening.  Perhaps the IMC isn't converting something?  I don't
have a 2k box to track it down on.  But it doesn't appear to be the Linux
boxes running Major-Domo CGI or Lyris that are the cause, just a common
link.

Nathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:06 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
 
 
 The contents of the message body are included twice by 
 default in Outlook
 (and most other mail clients) once as HTML and once as plain 
 text... But the
 messages aren't sent twice. In order to know what is really 
 going on, I
 think you'll need to turn up logging and watch what is being sent from
 Exchange.
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:49 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
  
  
  Hi Tom,
  
  I will answer the questions in-line.
  
  On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, you wrote:
   I'm not really sure what your architecture is here. Are 
 you saying 
   that you have two separate email systems; one for 
 internet mail and 
   one for intranet mail? My first question, if this is the 
  case, is why?
  
  Yes, one server is located in the office for internal mail 
  (it is also the SMTP Server - we only send emails thru this 
  server).  The other server is located externally at a hosting 
  company.  We only check our external mail from this server, 
  and do not use it for sending our mail. Why? Well the best 
  reason is cost. We have to pay for external traffic (traffic 
  that flows from the office to the outside).  So when we email 
  each other internally we don't have to pay for the traffic.
  
  
   If the above is correct, you have probably made a change on 
  your Linux 
   system that is causing it to have an issue with the fact that E2K 
   sends each message as both plain text and HTML. If that 
 is the case 
   you can either find out what you changed and remove the 
  change or get 
   your Linux people to fix it. The next option is to change 
  the default 
   Internet Mail Format to just plaintext.
  
  
  Nothing has changed on the linux system.  I am the Linux people.
  
   
   By default E2K sends all internet mail as both plaint text 
  and HTML. 
   Some non-Exchange systems have trouble with this. For 
 those domains 
   that have an issue you can set up domain exceptions under Global 
   Settings/Internet Message Format in ESM. Choose to send 
  plain text OR 
   HTML rather than both.
  
  
  So its a feature that internet mail is sent twice? OR am I 
  misunderstanding? 
  But right now, my setting is Message test as unformatted 
  Text.  The both is unchecked.
  
   
   If your problem is just with a few external domains, you 
  might want to 
   try an exception for one of the effected domains to see if 
  the result 
   is better.
  
  It seems to be coming only from about half the users, to 
  anywhere they send emails.
  
  
   Tom.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:04 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
   
   Hi,
   
   A recent problem has appeared in which emails sent by the 
 Exchange 
   users are being received twice.  The plain text message 
  header shows 
   it being sent from
   the user machine, to the internal linux mail server to the 
  recipient.
   The HTML
   mail has the same sent-time, but the receiving time is 
  minutes later.
   The
   header for these mails show it going to the Exchange server to the
   recipient.
   
   Is there a way to stop this without removing the Internet Mail 
   account from the Services list?  The users need to check both the 
   internal mail
   (Exchange)
   and the external (Internet Mail).
   
   The clients are using Outlook 2000 and the server is 2000 also.
   
   Note:  Although the Exchange server has been in place for 
  some months, 
   this problem has recently appeared.
   
   Thanks,
   A.W.
   
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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Kelly_Borndale


You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that.  Or, you
could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well.  Are you
running out of space?  Is that why you need to delete them?
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Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


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Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written.  If
you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't
see
quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing
up.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Thank You,
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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Darcy Adams

I will be doing integration with VoIP as soon as we get upgraded to 5.5 sp4.

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they
were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years.

Hi Chris.

For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those
routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and
sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
thought it might be nice to drop in.

Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?

By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts
(she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went
RTM, and well the rest is history.

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think
Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.

However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and not with MS

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the
whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?






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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Kevin Miller

Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper.
And read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server.

Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction
logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your
server, that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to
make your Priv current.

Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that.  Or,
you could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well.  Are
you running out of space?  Is that why you need to delete them?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Thank You,
Robert Williams
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Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written.
If you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you
won't see quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs
when backing up. ~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Thank You,
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Raypak, Inc.
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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Williams

Thanks, will look at it

Thank You,
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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files


Sounds to me like he needs to run to the disaster recovery white paper. And
read it.. Before that happens he needs to step away from the server.

Those are not log files like what your server did. They are transaction
logs. As in a copy of every message that has come in and out of your server,
that in the case of a Priv loss can be re applied to a backup to make your
Priv current.

Go, read, NOW! Then you can ask more questions.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:54 AM
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Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files



You may want to run an online backup, and delete them like that.  Or, you
could stop the IS, and that will commit the log files as well.  Are you
running out of space?  Is that why you need to delete them?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: I need help with edb*.log files



Are you backing up your server?  Those logs are what is being written. If
you are backing up the server, and have the log files removed, you won't see
quite so many -there is an option to flush committed logs when backing up.
~
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Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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FAX - 818-464-6982
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Instant Messenger

2001-11-12 Thread Vinny Avallone

Has anyone successfully setup and configured IM with Exchange 2000 on
W2K?

I am just starting out with the installation and am getting lost in the
process.
I have IM installed and active on the 2000 server.  I installed the IM
client (3.5) on the same W2K box and I get all sorts of authentication
errors.
I am trying to connect with a valid email address and password.

I also would like to know how it will work with XP and Messenger 4.5.
(http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q307/8/87.asp?LN=EN-US
SD=gnFR=0qry=messenger%20servicernk=14src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCHSPR=WI
NXP#3)
This looks pretty close, but I don't have the same options.

As you can tell I am extremely new the IM world.

Thanks for any help.

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iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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Re: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Martin Tuip

There is no Inner Circle Nathan :)

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- Original Message - 
From: Black, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


 One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh?
 
 They had Exchange back then?  I thought everybody just used refrigerators
 and post-it notes...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named 
  Eppie and they
  were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in 
  two years.
  
  Hi Chris.
  
  For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
  considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago 
  when one of those
  routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I 
  let it sit, and
  sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
  thought it might be nice to drop in.
  
  Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
  interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?
  
  By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, 
  called Bravehearts
  (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months 
  before 4.0 went
  RTM, and well the rest is history.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I 
  don't think
  Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.
  
  However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and 
  not with MS
  
  Darcy
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that 
  remembers or knows the
  whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Robert Williams

I found this.so I will go with it

  
PSS ID Number: Q240145
Article last modified on 10-10-1999
 
winnt:5.5
 

 

==

---
The information in this article applies to:
 
 - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 

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SUMMARY
===
 
Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an Exchange
Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space if
they
are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes
unnecessary
log files by either of the following methods:
 
 - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs soon
  after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is the
  Exchange Server installation default.
 
 - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after a
full
  or incremental backup.
 
You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if you
have
run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be
made.
Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a log
that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file, you
will
almost always damage the database and make it unstartable.
 
NOTE: Removing a transaction log file means moving it to another location
where
it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs. Deleting
is
a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log
file.
 
This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed
without
risk to the current database file.
 
MORE INFORMATION

 
After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular
transaction
log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a
previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the past of
the
database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the future of the
restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to bring
it up
to date.
 
IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them
rather
than delete them in order to preserve this roll forward capability.
 
The following steps apply to both the information store and to the directory
service.
 
To determine which log files can be safely removed:
 
1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path for
the
  database.
 
   Path locations are found on the Server object's Database Paths
  properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this path. If
  the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working path in
  the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry
key.
 
For the information store:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parameters
System\Working
  Directory
 
For the directory:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parameters
\DSA
  Working Directory
 
2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder. View
the
  header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5):
 
   eseutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks)
 
   or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0):
 
   edbutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks)
 
   Note that the screen output is similar to the following:
 
   Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities
  Version 5.5
  Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved.
 
   Initiating FILE DUMP mode...
  Checkpoint file: edb.chk
 
   LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0)
  Checkpoint (157,2860,500)comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal
  FullBackup (90,8,10)
  FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36
  IncBackup (0,0,0)
  IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0
  . . .
 
   The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file
generation
  number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the
sector.
  Write down the generation number.
 
3. Convert the generation number into hexadecimal. In this example, decimal
157
  translates to hexadecimal 9D. Exchange Server log files are numbered with
  five hexadecimal digits (for example Edb12345.log). Leading zeroes are
used
  to pad the log number out to five digits. Thus, the checkpoint log file
from
  the preceding example is Edb0009d.log.
 
   NOTE: You can use the Scientific mode of the Windows Calculator to
convert
  from decimal to hexadecimal. Start the Calculator, and on the View menu,
  click Scientific. Enter the decimal number, and click Hex.
 
4. The checkpoint log itself may not be found in the Transaction Logs
folder,
  but you will always find a log file one number lower than the checkpoint.
For
  example, the Edb0009d.log file may not exist, but the Edb0009c.log file
does.
  The reason for this is that 

RE: Instant Messenger

2001-11-12 Thread Mark Harford

AFAIK the 4.5 client doesn't yet support E2K IM.

Regarding your other problem, you don't say where you have got to in the
setup.  Have you defined an IM home server yet or just installed the
service?  If installed did you accept the default of the FQDN for the home
server DNS setting or have you set up an IM domain with appropriate RVP
service records, A records and so on?  What error messages on the IM Server
event log, etc, etc.

Mark H



-Original Message-
From: Vinny Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 November 2001 17:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messenger


Has anyone successfully setup and configured IM with Exchange 2000 on W2K?

I am just starting out with the installation and am getting lost in the
process. I have IM installed and active on the 2000 server.  I installed the
IM client (3.5) on the same W2K box and I get all sorts of authentication
errors. I am trying to connect with a valid email address and password.

I also would like to know how it will work with XP and Messenger 4.5.
(http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q307/8/87.asp?LN=EN-US
SD=gnFR=0qry=messenger%20servicernk=14src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCHSPR=WI
NXP#3)
This looks pretty close, but I don't have the same options.

As you can tell I am extremely new the IM world.

Thanks for any help.

--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Doug Hampshire

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-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Hi


There is no Inner Circle Nathan :)

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- Original Message - 
From: Black, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: Hi


 One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh?
 
 They had Exchange back then?  I thought everybody just used 
 refrigerators and post-it notes...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named
  Eppie and they
  were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in 
  two years.
  
  Hi Chris.
  
  For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still 
  considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one 
  of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I
  let it sit, and
  sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
  thought it might be nice to drop in.
  
  Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking 
  at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?
  
  By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list,
  called Bravehearts
  (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months 
  before 4.0 went
  RTM, and well the rest is history.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I
  don't think
  Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings.
  
  However, I have no idea where she is beyond Australia and
  not with MS
  
  Darcy
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Hi
  
  
  Ok, let me try another one.  Is anyone left here that
  remembers or knows the
  whereabouts of Elaine Sharp?
  
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: Instant Messenger

2001-11-12 Thread Dan Bartley

4.5 is not yet supported for an E2k configuration. Although the XP
Windows update site supplies a link for a 4.5 Exchange version, it goes
to the 3.5 version page. The 4.0 version that installs with XP will only
work if you are upgrading a Win2k machine that already had the Exchange
version installed.

Having it on the same server as E2k can be problematic. There is an
update that can be had from PSS, no charge, that resolves some of the
authentication problems with AD with a same server setup.

The best solution is to run the IM from another server.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley 

-Original Message-
From: Vinny Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messenger

Has anyone successfully setup and configured IM with Exchange 2000 on
W2K?

I am just starting out with the installation and am getting lost in the
process.
I have IM installed and active on the 2000 server.  I installed the IM
client (3.5) on the same W2K box and I get all sorts of authentication
errors.
I am trying to connect with a valid email address and password.

I also would like to know how it will work with XP and Messenger 4.5.
(http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q307/8/87.asp?LN=EN-US
SD=gnFR=0qry=messenger%20servicernk=14src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCHSPR=WI
NXP#3)
This looks pretty close, but I don't have the same options.

As you can tell I am extremely new the IM world.

Thanks for any help.

--
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iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Instant Messenger

2001-11-12 Thread Vinny Avallone

I do apologize for being so vague.
I do have all the below setup. I have a small test setup with W2K and
E2K and an XP client.  The only errors I see are in the
%WinDir%\System32\logfiles dir are 501 errors.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Instant Messenger

AFAIK the 4.5 client doesn't yet support E2K IM.

Regarding your other problem, you don't say where you have got to in the
setup.  Have you defined an IM home server yet or just installed the
service?  If installed did you accept the default of the FQDN for the
home
server DNS setting or have you set up an IM domain with appropriate RVP
service records, A records and so on?  What error messages on the IM
Server
event log, etc, etc.

Mark H



-Original Message-
From: Vinny Avallone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 12 November 2001 17:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Instant Messenger


Has anyone successfully setup and configured IM with Exchange 2000 on
W2K?

I am just starting out with the installation and am getting lost in the
process. I have IM installed and active on the 2000 server.  I installed
the
IM client (3.5) on the same W2K box and I get all sorts of
authentication
errors. I am trying to connect with a valid email address and password.

I also would like to know how it will work with XP and Messenger 4.5.
(http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q307/8/87.asp?LN=EN-US
SD=gnFR=0qry=messenger%20servicernk=14src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCHSPR=WI
NXP#3)
This looks pretty close, but I don't have the same options.

As you can tell I am extremely new the IM world.

Thanks for any help.

--
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iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535


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RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Mynhier

What events are you seeing in the Ap log on both servers?


-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Forum
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/12/01 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

Chris,

No... It just sits in the x.400 queue when I try to send a message from
Exchange 2000 to a mailbox on the 5.5 server.

Kevin Fletcher



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site


Does mail flow the other way?

Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 
 I added the first Exchange 2000 server to our Org... The ADC 
 is working properly... I see new mailboxes that are added to 
 5.5 as well as 2000.
 
 The problem I'm having is that when I try to send a message 
 from a mailbox on the Exch 5.5 server to a mailbox on the 
 Exch 2000 server I get the following error.
 
 
 +
 Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
 
 Subject: test
 Sent: 11/7/01 3:53 PM
 
 The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
 
 Andrew Fletcher on 11/7/01 3:53 PM
 The recipient name is not recognized
 The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
 ;p=ORG;l=SERVER-011107205237Z-69415
 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:CORPEXCH:ISNT1
 +
 
 I see the Exch 2000 mailbox in my Exch 5.5 GAL... It's almost 
 like the link between the two Exchange server is not 
 running... Again, this is a Mixed site 2000 and 5.5 and the 
 connection should be seamless. Right?
 
 Help! grin
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kevin Fletcher

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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server

200 logs in one day?  Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like
you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message.

Stephen


-Original Message-
From: Robert Williams
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files

I found this.so I will go with it

  
PSS ID Number: Q240145
Article last modified on 10-10-1999
 
winnt:5.5
 

 

==


---
The information in this article applies to:
 
 - Microsoft Exchange Server, version 5.5 


---
 
SUMMARY
===
 
Exchange Server database transaction logs record all changes to an
Exchange
Server database. Over time, these logs accumulate and use all disk space
if
they
are not permanently deleted. Exchange Server automatically deletes
unnecessary
log files by either of the following methods:
 
 - If circular logging is enabled, the system deletes transaction logs
soon
  after they have been written to the database file. Circular logging is
the
  Exchange Server installation default.
 
 - If circular logging is disabled, the system deletes excess logs after
a
full
  or incremental backup.
 
You may occasionally need to remove transaction log files manually if
you
have
run out of disk space or anticipate such an event before a backup can be
made.
Removing logs yourself can be dangerous to the database. If you remove a
log
that contains data that has not yet been written to the database file,
you
will
almost always damage the database and make it unstartable.
 
NOTE: Removing a transaction log file means moving it to another
location
where
it can be backed up, stored, or deleted, depending on your needs.
Deleting
is
a kind of removal that does not permit you to back up or restore the log
file.
 
This article explains how to tell which log files can be safely removed
without
risk to the current database file.
 
MORE INFORMATION

 
After Exchange Server has written all information from a particular
transaction
log to the database file, that log file will be accessed again only if a
previous backup of the database is restored. The log is now in the
past of
the
database. But if a backup is restored, the log is in the future of the
restored database. Its information can be applied to the database to
bring
it up
to date.
 
IMPORTANT: When you remove excess transaction logs, you should move them
rather
than delete them in order to preserve this roll forward capability.
 
The following steps apply to both the information store and to the
directory
service.
 
To determine which log files can be safely removed:
 
1. In the Exchange Server Administrator program, view the working path
for
the
  database.
 
   Path locations are found on the Server object's Database Paths
  properties page. The checkpoint file (Edb.chk) is located in this
path. If
  the Administrator program is unavailable, you can view the working
path in
  the system registry. Run Regedit.exe and expand the following registry
key.
 
For the information store:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeIS\Parame
ters
System\Working
  Directory
 
For the directory:
 
 
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchangeDS\Parame
ters
\DSA
  Working Directory
 
2. At a command prompt, change directory to the working path folder.
View
the
  header of the Edb.chk file with Eseutil (Exchange Server 5.5):
 
   eseutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks)
 
   or Edbutil (Exchange Server 4.0 and 5.0):
 
   edbutil /mk edb.chk (without the quotation marks)
 
   Note that the screen output is similar to the following:
 
   Microsoft(r) Windows NT(tm) Server Database Utilities
  Version 5.5
  Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1991-1998. All Rights Reserved.
 
   Initiating FILE DUMP mode...
  Checkpoint file: edb.chk
 
   LastFullBackupCheckpoint (0,0,0)
  Checkpoint (157,2860,500)comment: Checkpoint is in log 157 decimal
  FullBackup (90,8,10)
  FullBackup time:1/15/1999 18:18:36
  IncBackup (0,0,0)
  IncBackup time:0/0/1900 0:0:0
  . . .
 
   The three numbers on the Checkpoint line represent the log file
generation
  number, a sector offset into the log file, and a byte offset into the
sector.
  Write down the 

RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

Sounds like there is a configuration error at one end of that x.400
connector.

My guess is that either the X.400 standards settings (version/year, two way
alternate, etc) are set wrong, or there is a name resolution issue between
the servers. Make sure the X.400's are using IP addresses, not FQDN's or
hostnames, when referring to the machine at the other end of the link.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


 -Original Message-
 From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 
 Chris,
 
 No... It just sits in the x.400 queue when I try to send a 
 message from
 Exchange 2000 to a mailbox on the 5.5 server.
 
 Kevin Fletcher
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mail not flowing in mixed site
 
 
 Does mail flow the other way?
 
 Chris
 -- 
 Chris Scharff
 Senior Sales Engineer
 MessageOne
 If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: MS Exchange Forum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Mail not flowing in mixed site
  
  
  I added the first Exchange 2000 server to our Org... The ADC 
  is working properly... I see new mailboxes that are added to 
  5.5 as well as 2000.
  
  The problem I'm having is that when I try to send a message 
  from a mailbox on the Exch 5.5 server to a mailbox on the 
  Exch 2000 server I get the following error.
  
  
  
 +
  Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
  
  Subject: test
  Sent: 11/7/01 3:53 PM
  
  The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
  
  Andrew Fletcher on 11/7/01 3:53 PM
  The recipient name is not recognized
  The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= 
  ;p=ORG;l=SERVER-011107205237Z-69415
  MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:CORPEXCH:ISNT1
  +
  
  I see the Exch 2000 mailbox in my Exch 5.5 GAL... It's almost 
  like the link between the two Exchange server is not 
  running... Again, this is a Mixed site 2000 and 5.5 and the 
  connection should be seamless. Right?
  
  Help! grin
  
  Thanks,
  
  Kevin Fletcher
  
  
  
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Yeah, it's not like Nimda didn't exploit a vulnerability that half-decent
admins would have patched after Code Red II or Code Red I.

Every exploit used by Nimda would have been a completely moot point if:
1) Admins would friggin take care of (patch) their servers instead of
blindly blaming the manufacturer for their incompetencies.
2) Users would learn to click on the Windows Update and take advantage of
Microsoft's free updates to their software
3) Lusers would stop saying I wonder what happens if I click on this
executable that Joe Blow sent me or lazy admins would properly block
malicious code before it gets to the users

You want a car analogy?
How about this one:
Why do my doors keep getting dents in them?  Stoopud car manufacturers!
What do you mean that I'm supposed to close my doors before I drive?  The
car manufacturers should do that for me!

Bottom line is that it's not MS's fault that so many admins are lazy and so
many lusers are stupid!

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/12/01 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because

  Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft appears to be
waking up to the fact that producing the software equivalent of a Ford Pinto
is not a practice that instills customer loyalty.

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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Dupler, Craig

Hi my old friend.  Ok, Darcy, I'm going to digress a bit for the list (sort
of like old times) and see what kind of responses it generates.  Let's see
if anything has changed in the past two years.


VoIP is or will be interesting, depending on where one is.  I think we are
not ready for it.  

Back in February 1996 I was invited to an all hands meeting of the Exchange
team (their Friday stand-up) back when they were still in building 16.  The
occasion was an opportunity to have a customer representative come in and
say some words of encouragement about how important the work they were doing
was.  In the remarks I mentioned that from where I stood, what Microsoft was
building was a telephone system.  Most did not understand why I said that.
Over the next few years Microsoft passed up several opportunities to build
or acquire the missing Exchange telephony components, but oddly, they did
build an MCU.  I think that was a knee-jerk reaction to the IBM-Lotus
acquisition of DataBeam, and its integration into the Notes product line.

Cisco did not miss a beat however, and has been off building a very credible
system, with their two cornerstone pieces coming from their acquisitions of
Selsius and Active Voice.  I understand that Microsoft has made some noise
about building an IP/PBX as a part of the Exchange family, but they are way
late to the party.  Also, I and think more on point to the problems that the
Exchange community faces in becoming the core players in a world of
converged systems, is that we now have a five year legacy of Exchange
operations being architected and installed as though it's primary function
was e-mail and group calendaring, as opposed to being core communications
infrastructure equipment.  Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it is
hugely significant.  This operational culture will not be easily changed.

So what is Exchange?  Is it an application service that is a creature of
traditional file servers and server rooms?  Or is it something more akin to
the network itself, and as such is primarily a creature of switch rooms and
data closets?

What is Exchange's primary bread and butter client?  Is it the currently
shipping versions of Windows running on the old x86 architecture?  Or is it
an embedded system real time communications client that also does web and
thin client stuff natively?

I think we have to get on track with the right answers to these two
questions before we even have a chance of doing Exchnage VoIP integration
well.  Of this I am certain, one cannot successfully navigate the Road
Ahead (apologies to Bill,  :-)  ), by looking in the rear view mirror.
That is a strategy for causing a bad accident.



-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


I will be doing integration with VoIP as soon as we get upgraded to 5.5 sp4.

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hi


The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they
were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years.

Hi Chris.

For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still
considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those
routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and
sit and well it finally got deleted.  I'm not sure I'm back now, but I
thought it might be nice to drop in.

Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at
interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE?

By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts
(she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went
RTM, and well the rest is history.




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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Carlson

I think it has quite a lot to do with ease of use. The mindset may be
that products that are easier to use will sell more copies. If you have
to go into an application and set a couple hundred options just to
allow/disallow things, then people may not want to use the product.
Being easy to use right out of the box is a huge selling point for MS.
 
I dont think it is a matter of demanding insecure features, I think it
is more of demanding to do whatever they want to configure the
application to suit their needs, which then opens up security risks.
 
They need to keep it open enough so that when someone creates a custom
form in Outlook, they dont have to programatically check various
registry keys and settings to see if the necessary settings are
available and if they are not, enable them.
 
For a developer having to write 600 lines of code to make sure
everything is set right before launching the form would be an enormous
amount of work compared to editing a key to allow .exe files to show up.
Granted that may be the more secure way of doing things, but then people
may not want to develop for that platform.
 
Microsoft made a lot of money off Windows and Office being extremely
easy to develop for and use. With that there is security risks. If they
started to make it difficult and a lot of work for developers, they
would loose a portion of the bread and butter. There would be a lot less
MS/Windows/Office developers out there. Which I guess isnt a BAD thing.
:-)
 
 
Mike
 

-Original Message- 
From: Benjamin Scott 
Sent: Mon 11/12/2001 12:00 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because



On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
 Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's*
 mistakes?  I paid good money for their software; it is
 unreasonable to expect it to be secure in the default
configuration?

 You're just being a troll like Shawn now right?  If you're not
going to
 add anything useful to the conversation, why even have it?

  Alright, I will concede that was a bit heated, but that
attitude really
irks me.

  Some customers demand insecure features.  Granted.
Historically,
Microsoft has implemented those insecure features by default,
leading to
security problems for everyone.  Other customers have demanded
products
designed with security in mind.  Microsoft blames the problem on
customers
not installing fixes.

  Am I the only one who sees the inconsistency with this?  Why
does
Microsoft only listen to the demands of customers who want
insecurity?  Why
don't the demands of people who want more secure products count?

  My issue is not with installing updates or correcting insecure
defaults.
I am perfectly capable of doing so, thank you very much.  My
issue is that
the problem does not appear to be caused simple programming
errors, but
through a continued disregard for security on the part of
Microsoft.  That
makes my job harder than it needs to be, and that is not
something I like.

  To use an analogy, when I buy a car, I do not expect to have
to remove a
bolt mounted behind the gas tank to prevent the vehicle from
exploding when
involved in a rear-end impact.

  Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft appears
to be waking
up to the fact that producing the software equivalent of a Ford
Pinto is not
a practice that instills customer loyalty.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Roger Seielstad

I'll do this one better.

Nimda would not have effected UNPATCHED servers, had proper security
techniques been followed.

Nimda required the IUSR_MachineName account to have read access into the
\WinNT tree. A properly secured server would have that directory (and ALL
directories outside Inetpub\www) explicity denied permissions.

Then again, we've already determined that this isn't the administrators
fault.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:13 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 Yeah, it's not like Nimda didn't exploit a vulnerability that 
 half-decent
 admins would have patched after Code Red II or Code Red I.
 
 Every exploit used by Nimda would have been a completely moot 
 point if:
 1) Admins would friggin take care of (patch) their servers instead of
 blindly blaming the manufacturer for their incompetencies.
 2) Users would learn to click on the Windows Update and take 
 advantage of
 Microsoft's free updates to their software
 3) Lusers would stop saying I wonder what happens if I click on this
 executable that Joe Blow sent me or lazy admins would properly block
 malicious code before it gets to the users
 
 You want a car analogy?
 How about this one:
 Why do my doors keep getting dents in them?  Stoopud car 
 manufacturers!
 What do you mean that I'm supposed to close my doors before I 
 drive?  The
 car manufacturers should do that for me!
 
 Bottom line is that it's not MS's fault that so many admins 
 are lazy and so
 many lusers are stupid!
 
 Stephen
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 11/12/01 12:00 PM
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
   Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft appears to be
 waking up to the fact that producing the software equivalent 
 of a Ford Pinto
 is not a practice that instills customer loyalty.
 
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Re: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Daniel Chenault

Run, don't walk, to your nearest bookstore and pick up a version-appropriate
book by either Robichaux or Redmond. Read it. Then ask questions.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: I need help with edb*.log files


 I have about 200 edb.log files in my mdbdata folder. How do they get
 cleaned up and why did my server generate so many of them?

 Thank You,
 Robert Williams
 Senior Network Administrator
 Raypak, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone - 805-278-5363
 FAX - 818-464-6982
 www.raypak.com

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Programmatically copying mailbox contact to shared public folder contact

2001-11-12 Thread ahamed

Is it possible to programmatically copy the contacts in my mailbox to a
shared contact folder  in a public folder and vice versa?

Thanks for any lead.

J Justin





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Mailing between separate organisations

2001-11-12 Thread Angus McGuire

Hi

I have two separate organisations in separate NT Domains on same Lan.  Any
ideas how I can setup Exchange 5.5 to allow mailing between the two.  I
know that the Directory cannot be replicated between orgs.

Thanks

Angus

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Assigning inbox to Rules Object for few exchange users gives MAPI _E_INVALID_ENTRYID

2001-11-12 Thread Govardhan Nandi

Dear friends,

We have developed a web application which allows our Company's Exchange 5.5
users
to manage(add/edit/delete)thier rules  for thier inbox (similar to outllok
rule wizard)from a
web interface. 

We are using Rule.dll  found in Exchange 5.5 Platform SDK to create the
rules from ASP pages
hosted on a IIS.

Code runs properly for some users but fails for some other users.

3 Steps to Reproduce the Behaviour

1Set delivery to Personal folders through the services options in Tools
option of Outlook
  This create the Inbox folder in your Personal folder which becomes a
specialfolder  you can never delete the folder even if u want.
Now if you want , you can reset the delivery back to Mailbox or keep it
pointing
to personal folders itslef..This wont affect the remaining steps behaviour
(Now for outlook 97 clients...u can directly run the code in step 3 to get
the desired error
 but for outlook 2000 ..u need to follow step 2 also)
2Now using Outlook rule wizard ,create a client side rule for the inbox(e.g
move messages from inbox to some personal folder) turn on the rule
3Now run any of the following two sets of code
--
 Set objInbox =  objCDOSession.Inbox
 set colRules = server.CreateObject(MSExchange.Rules) 
 colRules.Folder = objInbox 
---OR---
Set objInfoStore = objCDOSession.InfoStores (2)
Set objPrivateFs = objInfoStore.RootFolder.Folders

For Each objFolder in objPrivateFs
  If objFolder.Name = Inbox Then
Set objInbox = objFolder
Exit For
  End If
Next
 colRules.Folder = objInbox 

For both the cases , U will see the following error at
colrules.folder=objInbox

-2147221241006~ASP 0177~Server.CreateObject 
 Failed~The operation completed successfully   
which corresponds to MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID

4Turn off the outlook  client side rule created in step 2 ...the code works
fine..
  Turn on the outlook rule again..u will get the same error.
  Remove the personal folders..u still get the same error.
  Set delivery to back to Mailbox or personal folders..u still get the
error..

Observations :
1I am very sure that the Inbox folder being passed from my code is the
correct
  folder for which i want to set up rules thru my code.
2It looks like that code inside the RULE.DLL is fetching entry id  for
inbox for wrong default store   failing when it finds two Inbox entry ids
(one for Mailbox  another for Personal folder in trooubled profiles )in the
Exchange Server...

We tried to debug into Rule.dll sourcecode(available in platsdk) in VC++
---
Created a pointer to the IRules interface.

I have used the function PutFolder(IDispatch *pVal) in Rules.dll for
assigning the folder,the  function internally calls
put_Folder(LPDISPATCH newVal) of the CRules class.

The function load(LPSRowSet lpRowSet) of the CRules class inside
put_Folder(LPDISPATCH newVal) is  returning 80040107
(MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID).

Further I went inside the load(LPSRowSet lpRowSet) function wherein
its calling a function  load(LPSRow lpSRow,ULONG ulIndex) of CRule
class.
This function calls the funtion load(LPACTIONS lpActions) of class
CActions which calls funtion  load(LPACTION lpAction) of class
CAction.

When the ulIndex is 3 i.e third time.. 
the
MethodInvoke(_Module.m_pCDOSession,_T(GetFolder),varResult,dispParams,DI
SPATCH_PROPERTYGET)
 function is returning 80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID).
This is happening for some users while others are getting return value
of 0 (SUCCESS).

---

Expecting some workaround fromu guys...

Cheers,
Nans


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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Omilian

Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)?  I just
looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster
recovery why it's good NOT to use it.

Mike


 Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server
 
 200 logs in one day?  Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like
 you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message.
 
 Stephen
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Williams
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM
 Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files
 
 I found this.so I will go with it
 
   
 PSS ID Number: Q240145
 Article last modified on 10-10-1999
  
 winnt:5.5
  

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setting the sent by email address

2001-11-12 Thread skaffen

Can anyone help with the following: - 

I have exchange server 5.5 and outlook 98 - I have two email accounts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have one profile running
on Outlook but want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to appear as the sender when replying
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] email and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to appear as the sender to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] email.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Mynhier

One's ability to start a car in no way reflects one's ability to drive it.

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott
To: Stephen Mynhier
Sent: 11/12/01 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Stephen Mynhier wrote (on swynk-exchange):
 Bottom line is that it's not MS's fault that so many admins are lazy
and
 so many lusers are stupid!

  I'll be sure and keep that in mind about Microsoft's products in the
future.  The reason they have so many security holes is that I am a
stupid
luser.  Got it.

  Bottom line is, their products are crap.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

Outlook 2002 ships in a much more secure mode than its predecessors.[1]
Other than getting people to agree to the obvious; that there were
significant security concerns with previous versions of the product, what's
the point of this conversation? 

If it's simply a Microsoft flame, there are more appropriate forums for
it.[2] What is my net takeaway from this conversation? What can one
reasonably expect that I or anyone else has learned as a result of it? At
least if the discussion had been in haiku or encoded fish taco recipes there
might be something of value in this thread.

Send a message or 12 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, it's a much more
appropriate venue for voicing your concerns and making specific product
suggestions. 

[1] Insert 4 month discussion on room for improvement which results in
nothing actually coming from it since this isn't the proper forum for
getting those concerns to Microsoft.
[2] alt.microsoft.advocacy or alt.microsoft.die.satan.die perhaps.

 -Original Message-
 From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
  Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* 
 mistakes?  I paid 
  good money for their software; it is unreasonable to 
 expect it to be 
  secure in the default configuration?
 
  You're just being a troll like Shawn now right?  If you're 
 not going 
  to add anything useful to the conversation, why even have it?
 
   Alright, I will concede that was a bit heated, but that 
 attitude really irks me.
 
   Some customers demand insecure features.  Granted.  
 Historically, Microsoft has implemented those insecure 
 features by default, leading to security problems for 
 everyone.  Other customers have demanded products designed 
 with security in mind.  Microsoft blames the problem on 
 customers not installing fixes.
 
   Am I the only one who sees the inconsistency with this?  
 Why does Microsoft only listen to the demands of customers 
 who want insecurity?  Why don't the demands of people who 
 want more secure products count?
 
   My issue is not with installing updates or correcting 
 insecure defaults. I am perfectly capable of doing so, thank 
 you very much.  My issue is that the problem does not appear 
 to be caused simple programming errors, but through a 
 continued disregard for security on the part of Microsoft.  
 That makes my job harder than it needs to be, and that is not 
 something I like.
 
   To use an analogy, when I buy a car, I do not expect to 
 have to remove a bolt mounted behind the gas tank to prevent 
 the vehicle from exploding when involved in a rear-end impact.
 
   Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft 
 appears to be waking up to the fact that producing the 
 software equivalent of a Ford Pinto is not a practice that 
 instills customer loyalty.

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RE: Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)

2001-11-12 Thread Webb, Andy

That sample is for E2K mailbox creation.  For E5.5 mailbox creation, it's
really easier - use perl to construct a CSV file and then pass it to admin
/i with either Win32::Process::Create or simply system.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)


Check the script archives at swinc for an e2k perl sample.

Chris
-- 
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Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


 -Original Message-
 From: Wynkoop, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Mailbox Creation in 5.5 via Perl or Other (not vbs)
 
 
 Is anyone on this list familiar with the creation of 
 mailboxes via perl (substitute your favorite scripting 
 language here).  I'd prefer not to use VBS if I can manage.  
 Basically I have a payroll system I want to pull my list of 
 new accounts from and create them automatically, any help 
 would be appreciated. J
 
 
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RE: Programmatically copying mailbox contact to shared public fol der contact

2001-11-12 Thread Webb, Andy

Yes.  Use CDO.

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-Original Message-
From: ahamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Programmatically copying mailbox contact to shared public
folder contact


Is it possible to programmatically copy the contacts in my mailbox to a
shared contact folder  in a public folder and vice versa?

Thanks for any lead.

J Justin





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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Mynhier

Circ. Logging can be very good if you are running a connectors only Exchange
server.  After all, if it's only housing connectors, why would you care
about the log files?

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 11/12/01 1:28 PM
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files

Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)?  I just
looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster
recovery why it's good NOT to use it.

Mike


 Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server
 
 200 logs in one day?  Couple of things that it could be but it sounds
like
 you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
Message.
 
 Stephen
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Williams
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM
 Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files
 
 I found this.so I will go with it
 
   
 PSS ID Number: Q240145
 Article last modified on 10-10-1999
  
 winnt:5.5
  

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RE: Mailing between separate organisations

2001-11-12 Thread Chris Scharff

I know that the Directory cannot be 
 replicated between orgs.

It can't? Oh crap!

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Stephen Mynhier [...message deleted...]

  I make a private reply, and you repost it to a public list, and *I* get
accused of trolling?

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

 Nimda required the IUSR_MachineName account to have read 
 access into the
 \WinNT tree. A properly secured server would have that 
 directory (and ALL
 directories outside Inetpub\www) explicity denied permissions.

If you came from a different background, that _would_ be a flaw in the
promiscuous-by-default design of the NTFS file system.

Nathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Drewski

It's not a flaw, it's a design feature.

Look, Windows is simply built differently than Unix.  Not worse or better, but
different.  NT needs several steps to get secure, many forms of Unix (hi,
William!) don't.  But if you don't know what you're doing, it doesn't matter --
you're gonna get exposed.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great
intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to
change a world that yields most painfully to change. - Robert Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Black, Nathan
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


 Nimda required the IUSR_MachineName account to have read
 access into the
 \WinNT tree. A properly secured server would have that
 directory (and ALL
 directories outside Inetpub\www) explicity denied permissions.

If you came from a different background, that _would_ be a flaw in the
promiscuous-by-default design of the NTFS file system.

Nathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:23 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because


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RE: setting the sent by email address

2001-11-12 Thread Tom Meunier

So you want to send two people emails, and have it appear to each of
them that they are not only the recipient, but the sender as well?  And
both people are the same person that's sending the email also?

At the risk of appearing insensitive and non-inclusive, is English your
native language?


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Posted At: Saturday, November 10, 2001 07:33 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: setting the sent by email address
 Subject: setting the sent by email address
 
 
 Can anyone help with the following: - 
 
 I have exchange server 5.5 and outlook 98 - I have two email accounts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have one 
 profile running
 on Outlook but want [EMAIL PROTECTED] to appear as the sender 
 when replying
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] email and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to appear as 
 the sender to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] email.

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

Learned from this thread:
1. That Microsoft Security is a sensitive issue
2. There have been much longer Fish Taco threads
3. There is no spoon.

Action Items:
1. Check out that alt.advocacy.die thing 


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
 Outlook 2002 ships in a much more secure mode than its 
 predecessors.[1]
 Other than getting people to agree to the obvious; that there were
 significant security concerns with previous versions of the 
 product, what's
 the point of this conversation? 
 
 If it's simply a Microsoft flame, there are more appropriate 
 forums for
 it.[2] What is my net takeaway from this conversation? What can one
 reasonably expect that I or anyone else has learned as a 
 result of it? At
 least if the discussion had been in haiku or encoded fish 
 taco recipes there
 might be something of value in this thread.
 
 Send a message or 12 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, it's a much more
 appropriate venue for voicing your concerns and making 
 specific product
 suggestions. 
 
 [1] Insert 4 month discussion on room for improvement which results in
 nothing actually coming from it since this isn't the proper forum for
 getting those concerns to Microsoft.
 [2] alt.microsoft.advocacy or alt.microsoft.die.satan.die perhaps.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:01 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
  
  
  On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Chris Scharff wrote:
   Why should *I* have to clean up after *Microsoft's* 
  mistakes?  I paid 
   good money for their software; it is unreasonable to 
  expect it to be 
   secure in the default configuration?
  
   You're just being a troll like Shawn now right?  If you're 
  not going 
   to add anything useful to the conversation, why even have it?
  
Alright, I will concede that was a bit heated, but that 
  attitude really irks me.
  
Some customers demand insecure features.  Granted.  
  Historically, Microsoft has implemented those insecure 
  features by default, leading to security problems for 
  everyone.  Other customers have demanded products designed 
  with security in mind.  Microsoft blames the problem on 
  customers not installing fixes.
  
Am I the only one who sees the inconsistency with this?  
  Why does Microsoft only listen to the demands of customers 
  who want insecurity?  Why don't the demands of people who 
  want more secure products count?
  
My issue is not with installing updates or correcting 
  insecure defaults. I am perfectly capable of doing so, thank 
  you very much.  My issue is that the problem does not appear 
  to be caused simple programming errors, but through a 
  continued disregard for security on the part of Microsoft.  
  That makes my job harder than it needs to be, and that is not 
  something I like.
  
To use an analogy, when I buy a car, I do not expect to 
  have to remove a bolt mounted behind the gas tank to prevent 
  the vehicle from exploding when involved in a rear-end impact.
  
Thankfully, after this latest Nimda fiasco, Microsoft 
  appears to be waking up to the fact that producing the 
  software equivalent of a Ford Pinto is not a practice that 
  instills customer loyalty.
 
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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Mike Carlson

I wouldnt say it is a flaw. It can be a bad thing, but not a flaw. MS
software out of the box has been historically access unless denied
where as the other big players are denied until granted access.
 
It is that way no matter the file system, it just the way MS has it
setup out of the box. For people from the Novell or *nix world, this is
something they have a hard time remembering.
 
I wish MS would use the denied until granted access mindset, but that
will probably never happen. At least not in the short term.
 
Mike

-Original Message- 
From: Black, Nathan 
Sent: Mon 11/12/2001 1:44 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because



 Nimda required the IUSR_MachineName account to have read
 access into the
 \WinNT tree. A properly secured server would have that
 directory (and ALL
 directories outside Inetpub\www) explicity denied permissions.

If you came from a different background, that _would_ be a flaw
in the
promiscuous-by-default design of the NTFS file system.

Nathan

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Mike Carlson wrote:
 For a developer having to write 600 lines of code to make sure
 everything is set right before launching the form would be an enormous
 amount of work compared to editing a key to allow .exe files to show up.
 Granted that may be the more secure way of doing things, but then people
 may not want to develop for that platform.

 Microsoft made a lot of money off Windows and Office being extremely
 easy to develop for and use. With that there is security risks.

  I think you make a good point.  What may have been a good approach in the
short term (very easy to work with, but insecure) is not so good in the long
term (it is still insecure, leading to many upset customers).  I wonder,
what happens next?  Microsoft has said they will be moving to make things
more secure.  Assuming they follow through, does that mean people will move
away to easier-but-less-secure platforms, restarting a cycle?  Or will it
mean security becomes a fundamental for Windows/Office programming (which, I
would argue, it should be)?

  Would people still like Exchange so much, if it was more secure but less
convenient?  I know *I* certainly would, but I'm not an Exchange programmer.
I wonder, how hard would it be to design a model that is secure by default,
but easily opens up access to software with the proper authorizations?  I
suspect that would require moving most of the scripting intelligence into
the server, where it can be protected better.  Anyone here who knows more
about Exchange programming than I (i.e., just about anyone) have any
comments on that?

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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread John Matteson

Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine.

Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange
list?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)



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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM
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Subject: Hi


Is anyone left here that remembers what Bravehearts meant?




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RE: Hi

2001-11-12 Thread Darcy Adams

Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over.

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Subject: RE: Hi


Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine.

Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange
list?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)



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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hi


Is anyone left here that remembers what Bravehearts meant?




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To all the Vets on the list

2001-11-12 Thread John Matteson

To all the Veterans of all branches of the U.S. Armed Services on the list:

Thank you for your service to our country.

And if you happen to be a veteran of an Allied armed service:

Thank you for your service to your country.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)



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RE: I need help with edb*.log files

2001-11-12 Thread Darcy Adams

I have circular logging turned on on my bridghead server.  No mailboxes to ever have 
to restore.  No need for transaction logs.

Darcy

-Original Message-
From: Mike Omilian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files


Is anyone using circular logging? and if so, for what reason(s)?  I just
looked and saw that I was using it but was reading in the disaster
recovery why it's good NOT to use it.

Mike


 Circular logging = BAD on mailbox server
 
 200 logs in one day?  Couple of things that it could be but it sounds like
 you might have a Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message
 Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping
 Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message Looping Message.
 
 Stephen
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Williams
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 11/12/01 11:59 AM
 Subject: RE: I need help with edb*.log files
 
 I found this.so I will go with it
 
   
 PSS ID Number: Q240145
 Article last modified on 10-10-1999
  
 winnt:5.5
  

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RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because....

2001-11-12 Thread Black, Nathan

Nice.  I think that wraps up the point of this thread.  :)  


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:52 PM
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 It's not a flaw, it's a design feature.
 
 Look, Windows is simply built differently than Unix.  Not 
 worse or better, but
 different.  NT needs several steps to get secure, many forms 
 of Unix (hi,
 William!) don't.  But if you don't know what you're doing, it 
 doesn't matter --
 you're gonna get exposed.
 
 -- Drew
 
 Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
 Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great
 intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for 
 those who seek to
 change a world that yields most painfully to change. - Robert Kennedy
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Black, Nathan
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:44 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: It's not Microsoft's fault because
 
 
  Nimda required the IUSR_MachineName account to have read
  access into the
  \WinNT tree. A properly secured server would have that
  directory (and ALL
  directories outside Inetpub\www) explicity denied permissions.
 
 If you came from a different background, that _would_ be a flaw in the
 promiscuous-by-default design of the NTFS file system.
 
 Nathan
 
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RE: To all the Vets on the list

2001-11-12 Thread blambert

Hey, thanks John...you are the only one so far today or over the weekend to
acknowledge veterans day to me...

Advisory Team 91
Cu Chi, Vietnam
1968-1969

Bill Lambert
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:04 PM
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Subject: To all the Vets on the list


To all the Veterans of all branches of the U.S. Armed Services on the list:

Thank you for your service to our country.

And if you happen to be a veteran of an Allied armed service:

Thank you for your service to your country.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
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...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know
you're out there)



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