[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Studies have shown that it would take an average 170-pound male five drinks within a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Studies have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:01 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:31 AM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---On an ATR, again a small group, a quite obnoxious canadian teacher asked in silly, crude, fashion about why we

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Why should that be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM/Ayurveda

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You can post this on FFLife only please take out the line about the morons (like Sparaig). Good thing you accommodated Ken by taking out the line about the morons (like Sparaig). Nice work, Rick. I'm sure Ken will

[FairfieldLife] TM Spin on Celibacy

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, it was always stressed, in my experience, that celibacy was a *calling*, not a discipline. Agreement with the body actually conveys that idea: if your body wants to have sex, no such agreement can be made.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: I

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM/Ayurveda

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
It's interesting from my perspective to see how the TM movement uses rasayanas and tries to justify their use through biochemical approaches and simple meditation. These are interesting, but the yogas for long-life and the techniques for bringing these rarified pranas into the central channel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: KING: You're a bachelor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: for fastest evolution, be celibate. Sure, but not if it's a struggle. Lets clarify. For the public / mediators. mmy did not have a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Spin on Celibacy

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Again, it was always stressed, in my experience, that celibacy was a *calling*, not a discipline. Agreement with the body actually conveys that

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? You mean John Knapp's wet diapers story on Trancenet? To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'. I think the reason people believe these tales is because they want to! Possibly because they want to experience all the emotions connected to the idea, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: for fastest evolution, be celibate. Sure, but not if it's a struggle.

[FairfieldLife] Subtlty of Expression

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , nablus108

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The Definition of a Terrorist'

2006-08-04 Thread Bhairitu
To the NeoCons the definition of a terrorist is anyone who didn't vote for Bush. Robert Gimbel wrote: While we, The United States of America; Wasted our billions of dollars; and our young brave soldiers; In a country, that was already controlled, and 'squeezed' on all sides; With a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Never Charged/For Yoga Asanas or Pranayama'

2006-08-04 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 7:21 AM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: I never recall

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at nablus108@ wrote: Did Mitterrand

[FairfieldLife] Sexually Active Sanyassi Orders -- a FFL Exclusive !

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying John. He clearly states he's a sannyasi. A sannyasi is one who has devoted his life to spirituality (as opposed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'. I think the reason people believe these tales is because they want to! Possibly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 12:01 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are talking Dec 1974, right? First sex-segregated ATR course. Yup. Hotel Alexander, Weggis, Switzerland. I was sitting on the floor in front of MMY. You were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Subtlty of Expression

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM/Ayurveda

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM/Ayurveda on 8/4/06 12:18 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You can post this on FFLife only please take out the line about the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it  a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold  showers? You mean John Knapp's "wet

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Definition of a Terrorist'

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the NeoCons the definition of a terrorist is anyone who didn't vote for Bush. Or even those who did but who are no longer going along with everything he says and does. Robert Gimbel wrote: While we, The United

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 12:07 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? MMY told us to take cold baths on

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: **SNIP** There's a continuum here: Don't be celibate -- be celibate if it's comfortable -- be celibate at all costs. I haven't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sexually Active Sanyassi Orders -- a FFL Exclusive !

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying John. He clearly states he's a sannyasi.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:07 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice cubes around the testicles? Cold showers? MMY told us to take cold baths on my 6-month course.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it a certain way so as to put ice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.I’ve spoken with two. At length. They weren’t making it up.I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip Had anyone heard the stories of learning to wear a dhoti and wrap it 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sexually Active Sanyassi Orders -- a FFL Exclusive !

2006-08-04 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying John. He clearly states he's a sannyasi. A sannyasi is one who has devoted his life to

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Thanks. Yep that's it, except the people I talked to learned it in Switzerland. They weren't diapers, they were of course, dhotis. dhotis? thats quite something else -- overall body wrap. The underwear were loincloths

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at length with this gentleman just after he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
If none of the women who allege shenanigans with MMY wish to talk openly, then I believe he deserves better than for people to be gossiping about his alleged sex life, especially those who pay lip service to the benefits of his teachings. I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm. Thanks. Yep that's it, except the people I talked to learned it   in Switzerland. They weren't diapers, they were of course, dhotis. dhotis? thats quite something else --

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie   article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If none of the women who allege shenanigans with MMY wish to talk openly, then I believe he deserves better than for people to be gossiping about his alleged sex life, especially those who pay lip service to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote:I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a  spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most  famous 'saint' of our age. Oh puhleeze. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:53 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote: I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most famous 'saint' of our age. Oh

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on edge of seat which was... :-) Its in the akashic record. Hear it for yourself. Its on that bookshelf five rows down from

[FairfieldLife] MAK research (in detail)

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: MAK research (in detail) Rick Here is another section of this book I am working on. It's a lengthy section on the research on Maharishi Amrit Kalash. One wonders whether the author of this book is an TM employee. It's very impressive research, at least as presented. Ken

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 12:01 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are talking Dec 1974, right? First sex-segregated ATR course. Yup. Hotel Alexander, Weggis, Switzerland. I was sitting on the floor in front of MMY.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Marek Reavis
These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:50 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY did make quite a big point of it (celibacy) to TMO teachers at times. For example: -- At the beginning of my TTC, 200 or so in intimate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers on 8/4/06 2:54 PM, Marek Reavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? Most of the guys on International/Purusha, including I, wore them. Probably some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a spiritual leader and in order to determine whether or not such people exploit their positions,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 3:06 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
I have questioned MMY's behaviour, good sense, and motives on numerous occasions, I have also attempted to blow away the fog that surrounds a lot of his best kept secrets. But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to scandal mongering. Please. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread gullible fool
Someone in my CCP pod at MUM in 82-83 wore something to cool the testicles on a regular basis. Regarding all the previous comments about whether celibacy was strongly suggested or not, I would like to add that many times I heard governors in ff say celibacy was necessary to attain Brahman. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 3:33 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to scandal mongering. OK. If you insist, well treat him unfairly,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on edge of seat which was... :-) Its in the akashic record. Hear it for yourself.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an interesting comment on deerskins. on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 nablus108@ wrote: KING: You're a bachelor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Was John a regular drinker at any point in his life? He was reputed to have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest*--it's pretty damning when someone as credible as Rick talks directly, firsthand and shares the story. This

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY did make quite a big point of it (celibacy) to TMO teachers at times.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
Well I do agree, but I also think some of these are beyond rumors, some still are rumors from people much closer to the situation than any of us but impossible (possibly ever) to verify. I have no problem holding the paradox and the astonishment that those opposites provide. But I'm also not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:01 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:31 AM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---On an ATR, again a small group, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM/Ayurveda

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 12:18 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip You can post this on FFLife only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'. I¹ve spoken with two. At

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote: I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most famous 'saint' of our age. Oh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: snip I first heard from one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest* Now, there's a loaded term for ya.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 5:02 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless there is some

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:35 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:15 PM, new.morning wrote: Sattynad had an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote:Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough  Sony's superficial "protection" scheme, here is what S. said: "If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins". Here's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
Rick - I deleted that posting when I saw the typo! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 3:33 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to scandal mongering. OK. If you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Paul Mason
I used the quote around 'saint' because this is how he is seen by many and this term was used during his hayday in 1967 (I have a clip where he mentions he is known as a saint). With regard to the issue of the cause of death of Guru Dev. Before hearing the allegation of poisoning I had heard

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 2:54 PM, Marek Reavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These would be loincloths (kaupin) rather than dhotis. Anyone else wear these, too? Most of the guys on International/Purusha, including I, wore

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/4/06 5:02 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote: Political

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 8/4/06 5:02 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajranatha@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Was Nablus's quote about an agreement with the body said to teachers? If so, it would be both. Thats a phrase I never heard him use with

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If none of the women who allege shenanigans with MMY wish to talk openly, then I believe he deserves better than for people to be gossiping about his alleged sex life, especially those who pay lip service to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:11 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial "protection" scheme, here is what S. said: "If

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation

[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, give me some kusha grass or a simple silk asana any day. So you medititate on grass? Sitting on silk. From Neiman Marcus? Your yoga ensemble? I hope its in nice summer colors. Yuppie on to Nirvana! :) To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.

2006-08-04 Thread Peter
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. But to gain enlightenment is faster if you are a celibate, and that is why Maharishi gently suggested it is good idea not to have sex, to make an agreement with the body. At least for a period of time. Once CC is reached I'm not sure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter
--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and

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