--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just
a_non_moose_ff wrote:
Locking ones happiness to where the rock goes
will only bring pain. Happiness is a warm rock --
rolling the rock.
I recall a section in Jack London's _Call of the Wild_ that
discusses the dogs' unending yearning to pull the sleds.
They don't care about the end point.
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
What the project is doesn't matter. Its not the fruit of the action
that paramount. Its the masters reaction. And the process of intense
focus on one BIG thing. Its all a process to root out vasannas.
Life itself seems to provide plenty of opportunities for
action
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
What the project is doesn't matter. Its not the fruit of the action
that paramount. Its the masters reaction. And the process of intense
focus on one BIG thing. Its all a process to
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:12 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:But you are mischaracterizing the mechanics I outlined, or misunderstanding them. And its not a path for everyone, or most. Its for a few that want or need it. The key is intense focus on one Big thing, a project beyond oneself. All energy
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:59 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
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On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
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a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:12 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
But you are mischaracterizing the mechanics I outlined, or
misunderstanding them.
And its not a path for everyone, or most. Its for a few that want or
need it.
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:40 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:12 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: But you are mischaracterizing the mechanics I outlined, or misunderstanding them. And its not a path for everyone, or most.
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
And its not a path for everyone, or most. Its for a few that want or
need it.
The key is intense focus on one Big thing, a project beyond oneself.
All energy focussed on that one big social, not personal, project.
Attention on all other desires fades and the
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
what specific
achievements do you feel will bring you fulfillment?
We may be talking about two different fulfillments.
I'm talking about all the admitttedly fleeting stuff,
from the satisfaction that comes from articulating
a thought on Fairfield Life to fixing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
what specific
achievements do you feel will bring you fulfillment?
We may be talking about two different fulfillments.
I'm talking about all the admitttedly fleeting stuff,
from
What I'm picking up from a_non_moose's observation
is that MMY-prescribed Big Projects are just that --
prescriptions for specific individuals. Like medical
prescriptions, they could harm those for whom such
a course is not indicated.
Medicine is a poison when taken by the wrong people
at
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
what specific
achievements do you feel will bring you fulfillment?
We may be talking about two different fulfillments.
I'm talking about all the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:40 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 10:12 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
But you are mischaracterizing the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What I'm picking up from a_non_moose's observation
is that MMY-prescribed Big Projects are just that --
prescriptions for specific individuals. Like medical
prescriptions, they could harm those for whom such
a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
what specific
achievements do you feel will bring you fulfillment?
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:The second dimension of the discussion is whether MMY uses such a technique on the inner circle, and larger circles to a lesser degree, and that this provides a quite rational explanation for what many view as "bizzare" behavior. You may feel
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:A third dimension is my claim that I have experienced benefit from the above, (outer circles) and from parallel phenomenon when something in which I have had massive vassanic investment, was lost. You may claim I recieved no benefit from such. In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
The second dimension of the discussion is whether MMY uses such a
technique on the inner circle, and larger circles to a lesser degree,
and that this provides a quite
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just like a dog,
just estatically eager and happy to do whatever is 'asked' --
presented before us.
Byron Katie would love it.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
A third dimension is my claim that I have experienced benefit from the
above, (outer circles) and from parallel phenomenon when something in
which I have had massive
On Jan 9, 2006, at 12:50 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Aol's SSRS hs an exercise he has people do "make a fool of yourself". He calls people to the stage and asks them to make as big a fool of themselves as they can. In front of a large audience. "No, be MORE silly, You can be sillier than That!" he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
The second dimension of the discussion is whether MMY uses such a
technique on the inner circle, and larger circles to a lesser
degree, and that this provides a quite
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote:It is also similar in some ways to the chapter in Steve Brigg's book (which I believe Rick had posted a while back) where M. deliberately tries to test him, or so he claims. He fails the test because he has not surrendered to everything his guru
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
It is also similar in some ways to the chapter in Steve Brigg's
book (which I believe Rick had posted a while back) where M.
deliberately tries to test him, or so he claims.
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:41 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
It is also similar in some ways to the chapter in Steve Brigg's
book (which I believe Rick had posted a while back) where M.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just
like a dog, just estatically eager and happy to do whatever
is 'asked' -- presented before us.
There you have it, in a nutshell. That's how he
expected the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just
like a dog, just estatically eager and happy to do whatever
is 'asked' --
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:41 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
It is also similar in some ways to the chapter in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just
like a dog, just estatically eager and happy to do whatever
is 'asked' --
On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:29 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:41 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Jan 9, 2006, at 1:51 PM, authfriend wrote: It is also
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 4:29 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 2:41 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I'm picking up from a_non_moose's observation
is that MMY-prescribed Big Projects are just that --
prescriptions for specific individuals. Like medical
prescriptions, they could harm those for whom such
a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Gillam wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
what specific
achievements do you feel will bring you fulfillment?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What I'm picking up from a_non_moose's observation
is that MMY-prescribed Big Projects are just that --
prescriptions for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
The second dimension of the discussion is whether MMY uses such a
technique on the inner circle, and larger circles to a lesser
degree,
and that this provides a quite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
A third dimension is my claim that I have experienced benefit from
the
above, (outer circles) and from parallel phenomenon when something
in
which I have had massive
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 11:35 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
A third dimension is my claim that I have experienced benefit from
the
above, (outer circles) and from parallel phenomenon when something
in
which I have had massive
On Jan 9, 2006, at 5:30 PM, authfriend wrote:You just said, when I asked for documentation, that it had been shared here, and that it was in previous posts you'd read. Now you say it was shared with you privately. Which is it?Both. "Appreciation of Hitler" can mean a lot of things, depending
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
MMY said something like, Before god, we should be just
like a dog, just estatically eager and happy to do whatever
is 'asked' --
On Jan 9, 2006, at 5:30 PM, authfriend wrote: I was hoping Rick would get back to us on it, because frankly it was one of the most bizarre thing I had ever heard. "Just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder". It does. Then all this world government and reports from inside people that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 9, 2006, at 5:30 PM, authfriend wrote:
snip
Which inside people are these? Is world domination
a phrase being attributed to MMY, and if so, in what
context was he using it? What did he mean by it?
Yes by some.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff
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--- Gillam wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Though I think there is something very powerful in giving up, and
rooting out, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
This is the real meaning of The Myth of Sisyphus, IMV. Pushing the
rock up the hill, only to have it fall down, time and time again, is
really a process of ripping out vasanas.
Interesting, in the light of your experience. Although I
would have thought the opposite
On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:59 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though I think there is something very powerful
On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:10 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:43 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- a_non_moose_ff wrote:
This is the real meaning of The Myth of Sisyphus, IMV. Pushing the
rock up the hill, only to have it fall down, time and time again, is
really a process of ripping out vasanas.
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