--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
One lurker's view of the feud:
I'll bet it felt good to get that off your chest. :-)
You are welcome to your opinion, even though it
seems that you are expressing it using a script
that has been thoughtfully
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
If you believe similarly, that there is *ANY* situation
in which you would support mandating TM, then I suggest
that you have crossed that boundary, too.
How do you mandate not-trying?
To subscribe, send a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... I stand by my original point -- ANYONE who can justify
*forcing* people to follow his or her spiritual beliefs,
for *ANY* reason, has crossed a boundary from inspired
believer into the realm of dangerous fanatic.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff no_reply@
wrote:
One lurker's view of the feud:
I'll bet it felt good to get that off your chest. :-)
You are welcome to your opinion, even though it
seems
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Plus which, no spiritual beliefs, of course, are required
to practice TM, only the belief that the practice will
be beneficial. And that, of course, can't be forced
either.
You need not believe it to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
Plus which, no spiritual beliefs, of course, are required
to practice TM, only the belief that the practice will
be beneficial. And that, of
on 4/16/06 10:53 PM, anon_couscous_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if they gave a war and nobody came?
A general comment -- perhaps somewhat resonant with your thought.
People have asked both Judy and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
This idiotic feud will end whenever either of you
decides not to participate in it any more.
Rick, just to make a point before going back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
This idiotic feud will end whenever either of you
decides not to participate in it any more.
Rick, just to make a point before going back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
This idiotic feud will end whenever either of you
decides not to participate in it any more.
Rick, just to make a point before going back
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:04 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
fairfieldlife@ wrote:
This idiotic feud will end whenever either of you
decides not to participate
on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The issue is not *that* we become involved in somebody
else's business, but *how* we become involved. If we
stick to substance and don't make false accusations and
don't insult one another and try to be objective and
*fair* in our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The issue is not *that* we become involved in somebody
else's business, but *how* we become involved. If we
stick to substance and don't make false
on 4/16/06 12:01 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The issue is not *that* we become involved in somebody
else's business, but *how* we become
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The issue is not *that* we become involved in somebody
else's business, but *how* we become involved. If we
stick to substance and don't make false
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 12:01 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
If I follow through on what I say above, and she
continues to makes further negative comments about
me, I think that should settle once and for all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 4/16/06 12:01 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
If I follow through on what I say above, and she
continues to makes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 4/16/06 12:01 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
If I follow through on what I say above, and she
continues to makes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 4/16/06 11:22 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
The issue is not *that* we become involved in somebody
else's business, but *how* we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
J S, just out of curiosity, would you be Jewish?
Explain why you're curious, and I'll consider telling you.
To subscribe, send a message to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or go to:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all their posts when I got to them. If
it got too burdensome to moderate said person, they'd be unsubscribed.
Since Barry was here here a good while before this issue started, I
think it's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
snip
J S, just out of curiosity, would you be Jewish?
Explain why you're curious, and I'll consider telling you.
Only curious if the question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all their posts when I got to them. If
it got too burdensome to moderate said person, they'd be unsubscribed.
Since Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all their posts when I got to them. If
it got too burdensome to moderate said person, they'd be unsubscribed.
Since Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Just to reiterate, I have not the slightest intention
of refraining from commenting on Barry's posts when I
have something to say about them. That would be absurd.
It's absurd that *he* has to refrain from commenting
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
snip
J S, just out of curiosity, would you be Jewish?
Explain why
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz
peterklutz@
wrote:
snip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
Just to reiterate, I have not the slightest intention
of refraining from commenting on Barry's posts when I
have something to say about them. That
On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all their posts when I got to them. If
it got too burdensome to moderate
on 4/16/06 3:09 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And again, it's fascinating that you all come down on
me instead of Barry, when he is clearly the instigator.
I don't think it's because you don't care about his
lies and his constant provocations, I think it's because
you're all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the
problem on moderate status and moderate all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Is there *anybody* on this forum who is willing to
speak up and confirm that what Barry said in his
post today about not having replied to one of my
posts since 4/11 is a falsehood?
Anybody?
Judy, you doth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
snip
J S, just out of curiosity, would you be Jewish?
Explain why
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
Just to reiterate, I have not the slightest intention
of refraining from commenting on Barry's posts when I
have something to say about them. That
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
Is there *anybody* on this forum who is willing to
speak up and confirm that what Barry said in his
post today about not having replied to one of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all their posts when I got to them. If
it got too burdensome to moderate said person, they'd be unsubscribed.
Since Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That gives me an idea. I'll attract Barry's fire and thus
spare you from it. That will end the feud. OK, here we go:
Barry is a big fat poo-poo head and his mother wears Army
boots. I also happen to know that he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:51 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
If I was moderator I would put the person who started the problem on
moderate status and moderate all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:09 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And again, it's fascinating that you all come down on
me instead of Barry, when he is clearly the instigator.
I don't think it's because you don't care
on 4/16/06 3:34 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That gives me an idea. I'll attract Barry's fire and thus
spare you from it. That will end the feud. OK, here we go:
Barry is a big fat poo-poo head and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:09 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And again, it's fascinating that you all come down on
me instead of Barry, when he is clearly the instigator.
I don't think it's because you don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
Is there *anybody* on this forum who is willing to
speak up and confirm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
[...]
Is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@
wrote:
1.Judy, you cannot change Barry's behavior (whether he is honest
and fair or not, I do not know, nor care).
Obviously you don't care.
As I said
on 4/16/06 3:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm aware of that. I was merely pointing out that you are flogging
a dead horse in most people's eyes.
How can it be a dead horse if nobody is willing to
admit that Barry lied in even that single crystal-
clear case?
OK, let's
On Apr 16, 2006, at 4:20 PM, authfriend wrote:
Remember that it was *Barry* who invited alt.m.t
participants to come to FFL, touting it as a much
more well-behaved group.
Well it was--*at that time*--then came those who preferred to provoke
others, and game-play--rather than dialoguing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 4:20 PM, authfriend wrote:
Remember that it was *Barry* who invited alt.m.t
participants to come to FFL, touting it as a much
more well-behaved group.
Well it was--*at that time*--then came those
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
that is a good thing. But maybe be less vigilant here? Having your
hypervigilance is like going out to dinner with an accountant who
pulls out the calculator at the end of the meal and tallies up each
person's
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, authfriend wrote:
At the very, VERY least--if you don't look at which
of us starts it, which of us lies, and which of us
disregards elementary fairness--he's equally guilty.
Who lies is a relative perception. Are hoping we'll deliberate some
sort of list jury
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:09 PM, authfriend wrote:
At the very, VERY least--if you don't look at which
of us starts it, which of us lies, and which of us
disregards elementary fairness--he's equally guilty.
Who lies is a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
How can it be a dead horse if nobody is willing to
admit that Barry lied in even that single crystal-
clear case?
You and Barry are the ones
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@
wrote:
snip
that is a good thing. But maybe be less vigilant here? Having
your
hypervigilance is like going out to dinner with an accountant
who
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm aware of that. I was merely pointing out that you are flogging
a dead horse in most people's eyes.
How can it be a dead horse if nobody is willing
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:47 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:48 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm aware of that. I was merely pointing out that you are
flogging
a dead horse in most
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:47 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:48 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
I'm aware of that. I was merely
On Apr 16, 2006, at 6:21 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:47 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@
wrote:
on 4/16/06 3:48 PM, authfriend at
One lurker's view of the feud:
It takes two to tango.
I suspect people are trying to persuade Judy to change because she is
more rational and seems more persuadable by logical argument—the logic
being that her strategy to get Barry to change obviously hasn't worked
and alienates others.
I don't
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 6:21 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Apr 16, 2006, at 5:47 PM, anon_couscous_ff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Judy (if you're reading this), can you imagine *anything* that might
prompt you to moderate your posts re Barry?
I've already made it clear, I thought, what would
prompt me to do that: (1) If Barry would make a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Judy, you could just let him stew in his own juices. You don't have
to take it on. It must feel awful enough already to feel like he
does. By continuing to engage him you just absorb his stuff and it
gives him
Comment following:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis
reavismarek@ wrote:
**SNIP**
But, perhaps you would consider commenting on all of Barry's posts
in a weekly compendium?
I don't know if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff no_reply@
wrote:
snip
Judy, you could just let him stew in his own juices. You don't
have
to take it on. It must feel awful enough already to feel like he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
But if you wanted to convince FFL that he is not a person to be
trusted, from what I can tell I'd say you had pretty much succeeded.
Although a number of folks have been pretty harsh on you, I can't
think of
Wayback's point that people on the list don't really need you to
defend them is a good one though. Barry does his own damage to himself
through his extremism.
What if they gave a war and nobody came?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What if they gave a war and nobody came?
A general comment -- perhaps somewhat resonant with your thought.
People have asked both Judy and Barry to either i) not react nor
respond to each others posts, or ii) if that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonybliss_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
I admit to being amazed by the level of vitriol, venom, contempt and
bile that Barry carries and expresses towards Maharishi, TM, the
TMO, and those he identifies as being sympathetic to any aspect of
those.
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