[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-21 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: major snip Many decades of conditioning have to be overcome in order to see this. It is a painful process. Not everyone wants to do it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huge snip So, on the one hand, in answer to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread Vaj
On Dec 20, 2005, at 1:12 PM, L B Shriver wrote:More blatant recent developments regarding fraudulent elections and the subversions of  our civil liberties are merely the more recent and obvious indicators of corporate fascism. Even that idea's been around a long time:"The liberty of a democracy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valid observations, but there are a number of emerging factors that provide a counter force, or a new direction. With respect to the media myth, I think you have it exactly backwards. USA as the bastion of freedom

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
Response below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Valid observations, but there are a number of emerging factors that provide a counter force, or a new direction. With

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
Thanks for the input, Bobananda. Although I don't agree with the specifics of yugas, etc, I accept the principle that these are dark times. However, I don't have a clue what can be expected—or not. L B S --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:20 AM, sparaig wrote: Immanent? Please clarify what you mean by calling it immanent. Try imminent. As in about to happen. ? OK, that's easy. There's cash handy, and they are spending it on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the input, Bobananda. Although I don't agree with the specifics of yugas, etc, I accept the principle that these are dark times. However, I don't have a clue what can be expected—or not. L B S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I must politely disagree. The press rarely touches upon the inner dynamics of history or current events, and has in fact been skillfully manipulated to preserve the myth of Noble America. It takes time to put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Pall
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago, Tom Pall genuinely apologized for one of his posts to Dr Pete, spontaneously and almost immediately after sending it. You know, I didn't catch

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread Vaj
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:46 AM, braaahmaan wrote:Those proclaiming great advaida-speak in one post, then totally contradicting it in the next post, is questionable.  Yes, but Brahman is inclusive of opposite doncha know! :-/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread Peter
--- Tom Pall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago, Tom Pall genuinely apologized for one of his posts to Dr Pete, spontaneously and almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is being saved. So the Dream is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and painful. I must be truely insane. I find the New and Improved TMO to be a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread ultrarishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is being saved. So the Dream is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is being saved. So the Dream is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [...] Now it is difficult to find the faintest shred of evidence that the world is being saved. So the Dream is Over, and the disappointment for many is huge and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread Vaj
On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:20 AM, sparaig wrote:"Immanent?" Please clarify what you mean by calling it "immanent." Try "imminent". As in "about to happen."? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huge snip So, on the one hand, in answer to our deepest collective desire, we have created a regional, national and global reality that changes nearly instantly, reflecting our momentary fulfillments. On the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-20 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huge snip So, on the one hand, in answer to our deepest collective desire, we have created a regional, national and global

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue of one or more persons (sometimes the majority of active posters) perceiving one partic- ular poster as consistently angry, and abusive because of that anger, suddenly clicked for me this afternoon. I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not

2005-12-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes: snipped a lot I would say that MOST (and by MOST I mean 80-90% of the people I interacted with during my week in America were ANGRY. The *first* thing that hits you, if you've

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
Barry provides some thoughtful and thought provoking observations and hypotheses. While I open to the validity of such, it makes me wonder if other dynamics and explanations may also be possible. Ochams Razor would dictate looking for the simplest explanation. If 90% of people polled, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue of one or more persons (sometimes the majority of active posters) perceiving one partic- ular poster as consistently angry, and abusive because of that anger, suddenly clicked for me this afternoon. I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the process of gaining enlightenment is not mumbo jumbo, and particularly the majority of the members here, who have been meditating in this life for decades, the physiology is conditioned to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue of one or more persons (sometimes the majority of active posters) perceiving one partic- ular poster as consistently angry,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
A point regarding this issue of one or more persons perceiving other posters as angry, and abusive -- suddenly clicked for me this afternoon. I had known that it reminded me of something, but I had not been able to figure out *what* is so intriguing. The premeise appears to be that content of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/19/05 10:36 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can't really *admit* the lack of progress, because that would be off the program and would make it sound like they were doubting the all-holy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread Peter
--- Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the process of gaining enlightenment is not mumbo jumbo, and particularly the majority of the members here, who have been meditating in this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread L B Shriver
I have reached a similar conclusion myself. This is how I have conceptualized it: Most of us Movement lifers (NOT to be confused with Fairfield Lifers, although there is significant overlap between sets; lifer is used here as it's used elsewhere, in cases where one joins up—or is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread Peter
--- L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few weeks ago, Tom Pall genuinely apologized for one of his posts to Dr Pete, spontaneously and almost immediately after sending it. You know, I didn't catch that post and I'm sorry I didn't see it. I also should apologize for Tom for making

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm n

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Stein writes:snipped Typically, when they were young, these people were routinely punished for expressing anger, and they internalized the notion

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/19/05 10:36 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can't really *admit* the lack of progress, because that would be off the program and would make it sound like they were doubting the all-holy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not thang

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/19/05 10:36 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They can't really *admit* the lack of progress, because that would be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thoughts on the You're angry / No, I'm not

2005-12-19 Thread braaahmaan
Thank you Yoda for the thoughtful communique from the Force. Your Brahmanic messages are becoming more and more coherent to us lower vibration beings. And relvenat. Keep up the good dharamic work. your servant, in service braaahmaan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,