Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
to change, good to do so before CC. Because after CC, you'll simply witness them! From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Dr. Johnson says

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think of CC as enlightened Yes, kind of a grand experiment going on these days - The old descriptions of enlightenment, based on cognition, and perfection of the sidhis, by those living a monastic lifestyle,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   I don't think of CC as enlightened Yes, kind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I will do my best to watch his interview, though my track record for finishing these things is abysmal. Yes, it is pretty bloody intense; anything that heaven and hell can throw at you. Unbounded awareness is more than a catch phrase. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation I don't think of CC as enlightened Yes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   I will do my best to watch his interview, though my track record for finishing these things is abysmal. Yes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I will do my best to watch his interview, though my track record for finishing these things is abysmal. Yes, it is pretty bloody intense; anything that heaven and hell can throw at you. Unbounded awareness is more than a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-12 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Well, research on TM enlightened people is still in its infancy. If you take MMY's words at their most

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : In regard to Orme-Jonhson, I was sitting near him once and the discussion he was having with someone had to do with data from the Maharishi Effect research. He mentioned that some other researchers wanted to see the raw data, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Eh, Fred has a PhD in Physiology and has published nearly 50 peer-reviewed studies on meditation. The fact that he doesn't have a neuroscience dept to run doesn't say anything about his research, but is only about what classes are taught at MUM. He's not a bogus scientist simply because he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : He's not a bogus scientist simply because he doesn't run a dept that teaches courses in his area of expertise. The knowledge of Vedic Astrology is located in the ancient Vedic Literature and in the oral tradition of Vedic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   Eh, Fred has a PhD in Physiology and has published nearly 50 peer-reviewed studies on meditation. The fact that he doesn't have a neuroscience dept

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily and effortlessly settle inward, through quieter levels of thought, until you experience the most silent and peaceful level of your own awareness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : In regard to Orme-Jonhson, I was sitting near him once and the discussion he was having with someone had to do with data from the Maharishi Effect research. He mentioned that some other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily and effortlessly settle inward, through quieter levels of thought, until you experience the most silent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
11, 2014 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Eh, Fred has a PhD in Physiology and has published nearly 50 peer-reviewed studies on meditation. The fact that he doesn't have a neuroscience dept to run doesn't say anything about his research

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   Here's a start on a TM Movement-ese To English Phrasebook: Phrase: I heard from a TM teacher friend that Maharishi once said... Translation: Here's something almost certainly made

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : In regard to Orme-Jonhson, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : In regard to Orme-Jonhson, I was sitting near him once and the discussion he was having with someone had to do with data from the Maharishi Effect

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread wgm4u
no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily and effortlessly settle inward, through quieter levels

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   That's a sticky question. In principle, scientists are supposed to make data available, but personality and agenda can get in the way. A law or regulation was passed about a decade ago requiring that any researchers doing research

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
after CC, you'll simply witness them! From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation Dr. Johnson says-The TM technique allows your mind to easily

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-11 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
! From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation   Well, research on TM enlightened people is still in its infancy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In regard to Orme-Jonhson, I was sitting near him once and the discussion he was having with someone had to do with data from the Maharishi Effect research. He mentioned that some other researchers wanted to see the raw data, and it seemed he was not going to give it to them, saying 'You know

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread nablusoss1008
The Difference Between Mindfulness And Transcendental Meditation In Under Two Minutes - See more at: The Difference Between Mindfulness And Transcendental Meditation In Under Two Minutes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Liars who believe their own lies. On 11/10/2014 12:21 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: The Difference Between Mindfulness And Transcendental Meditation In Under Two Minutes - See more at: The Difference Between Mindfulness And Transcendental Meditation In Under Two Minutes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/10/2014 2:24 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Liars who believe their own lies. /You are not even making any sense today. TM by definition is is a simple, natural, effortless technique practiced 20 minutes twice each day while sitting comfortably with the eyes closed. Everyone knows that./

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just checking the MUM website, the universitydoes not have a neuroscience department. Fred Travis, for example, is a Professor of Maharishi Vedic Science, not a professor of a scientific discipline that are researching meditation at other universities. That is because MUM is an arm of a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Did you *even watch* the video? Rosenthal said that TM was a unique state of consciousness. It's not. On 11/10/2014 01:27 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 11/10/2014 2:24 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Liars who believe their own lies. /You are not even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/10/2014 3:57 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: // Just checking the MUM website, the universitydoes not have a neuroscience department. Fred Travis, for example, is a Professor of Maharishi Vedic Science, not a professor of a scientific discipline that are researching meditation at other

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-10 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/10/2014 4:01 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you *even watch* the video? Rosenthal said that TM was a unique state of consciousness. It's not. /The transcendental state is unique to each individual. It is./ On 11/10/2014 01:27 PM, 'Richard J.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-09 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This man is not a scientist - his hype is non-scientific. He is a shill for the TMO - that's it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Scientist Reviews Three Types of Meditation

2014-11-09 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
There's nothing new under the sun. The techniques for TM were borrowed from other paths and traditions. They are fairly well known in India. Here's a link to the meditation section in Swami Sivanandas Mind - It's Mysteries and Control first published in 1935. You'll see the process is