[FairfieldLife] Re: Chat With a Martian
With All That We Say Is Ours Wise words, she said A timely escape We laugh til we all fall down Nobody hears what we say Hidden in the games that we play Somebody's knocking at the bathroom door We always stay a little longer.. Do not mind anymore Now we're writing on the bathroom walls Always sleeping on someone's floor The Frost is slowly falling The Ice melting sorely away Let's forget all the things we say There's now no ones calling We'd better run for it now... .. to the Mars blushing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Those rocks are so calming on far away Mars they too have been listening to all that we say pink they've become from so much blushing From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chat With a Martian  Google Earth 5 - 3D Mars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QtXFLL7Y2g Google's 3D map program, called Google Earth, now has a Mars expansion pack. So you can sail through a 3D Red Planet - and if you take nablusoss1008 with you , you'll meet a Martian too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjcrQzSt6o Type Meliza in the search window while looking at Mars (look for the planet icon at the top of GE 5 and switch to Mars). This will fly you to a place on mars with a place mark labeled MELIZA. Click on that and the place mark bubble will open and start talking to you. The program is based on an old computer application called Elizathe old Eliza online therapist program.  I'll bet therapy works way better on Mars because all those pink rocks are so calming. have pun
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chat With a Martian
With All That We Say Is Ours Wise words, she said A timely escape Let's laugh 'til we all fall down Nobody hears what we say Hidden in the games that we play Somebody's knocking at the bathroom door Let's always stay a little longer Do not mind anymore Now we're writing on the bathroom walls Always sleeping on someone's floor The Frost is slowly falling The Ice melting sorely away Let's forget all the things we say There's now no someone's calling We'd better run for it now... .. to the Mars blushing? Yes- Those rocks are so calming on Mars far away they too have been listening to all that we say pink they've become from so much blushing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Those rocks are so calming on far away Mars they too have been listening to all that we say pink they've become from so much blushing From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chat With a Martian  Google Earth 5 - 3D Mars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QtXFLL7Y2g Google's 3D map program, called Google Earth, now has a Mars expansion pack. So you can sail through a 3D Red Planet - and if you take nablusoss1008 with you , you'll meet a Martian too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjcrQzSt6o Type Meliza in the search window while looking at Mars (look for the planet icon at the top of GE 5 and switch to Mars). This will fly you to a place on mars with a place mark labeled MELIZA. Click on that and the place mark bubble will open and start talking to you. The program is based on an old computer application called Elizathe old Eliza online therapist program.  I'll bet therapy works way better on Mars because all those pink rocks are so calming. have pun
[FairfieldLife] Sidha of 82 yrs of age
A Sidha and Dalai lama fan (82 yrs) last summer at my sister's summer residence: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8601713137/in/photostream In my understanding his program of several hours per day consists of all kinds of stuff, including I Chuan (sp?). I'm not sure if he still does YF... He recently started aikido!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Atoms
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: What were Vedic Atoms and what happened to them - any good stories about them? Vedic Atoms? Unified Field Sub-macro units. They are transcendental. Everyone around here who kept meditating knows that by virtue of the ongoing eternal experience of the un-manifest Self expressed in the human physiology. Wish you were here with us again, -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Atoms
Here's an excellent quote about cultivating Vedic Atoms: Vedic Atoms: Class 101, A quiet mind is all you need. All else will happen rightly, once your mind is quiet. As the sun on rising makes the world active, so does self-awareness affect changes in the mind. In the light of calm and steady self-awareness, inner energies wake up and work miracles without any effort on your part. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: What were Vedic Atoms and what happened to them - any good stories about them? Vedic Atoms? Unified Field Sub-macro units. They are transcendental. Everyone around here who kept meditating knows that by virtue of the ongoing eternal experience of the un-manifest Self expressed in the human physiology. Wish you were here with us again, -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willkommen zurück, Michael and Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: A week in the coop, now you're back in the loop. German might be one of the most musical languages on this planet, because almost all of the most appreciated classical composers spoke German as their first language?? I guess almost everybody even in Minnesota might be aware of what Arthur Rubinstein said about the relationship between a composer's native language and the quality of his/her efforts?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willkommen zurück, Michael and Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: A week in the coop, now you're back in the loop. German might be one of the most musical languages on this planet, because almost all of the most appreciated classical composers spoke German as their first language?? Well, as I like to say in my affected stern, heavy German accent, Tcherman iz ze langvage ov luff.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chat With a Martian
Lila of pink rocks bathroom walls melting ice words escaping into laughter tears all wise remembering slow forgetfulness From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chat With a Martian With All That We Say Is Ours Wise words, she said A timely escape Let's laugh 'til we all fall down Nobody hears what we say Hidden in the games that we play Somebody's knocking at the bathroom door Let's always stay a little longer Do not mind anymore Now we're writing on the bathroom walls Always sleeping on someone's floor The Frost is slowly falling The Ice melting sorely away Let's forget all the things we say There's now no someone's calling We'd better run for it now... .. to the Mars blushing? Yes- Those rocks are so calming on Mars far away they too have been listening to all that we say pink they've become from so much blushing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Those rocks are so calming on far away Mars they too have been listening to all that we say pink they've become from so much blushing From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chat With a Martian  Google Earth 5 - 3D Mars! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QtXFLL7Y2g Google's 3D map program, called Google Earth, now has a Mars expansion pack. So you can sail through a 3D Red Planet - and if you take nablusoss1008 with you , you'll meet a Martian too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjcrQzSt6o Type Meliza in the search window while looking at Mars (look for the planet icon at the top of GE 5 and switch to Mars). This will fly you to a place on mars with a place mark labeled MELIZA. Click on that and the place mark bubble will open and start talking to you. The program is based on an old computer application called Elizathe old Eliza online therapist program.  I'll bet therapy works way better on Mars because all those pink rocks are so calming. have pun
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heretical teachings
It is helpful to compare play-books on this. We see these same things with Unified Field and meditation deniers. It's all such a sorry ignorance of spirituality and poverty of spiritual discipline. The white-out of spirituality: So-called 'Pastors' and 'teachers' worldwide have succumbed to heretical teachings including universal reconciliation, deification of man, challenging the validity of the Word of God including His judgements, and even lifting any boundaries, claiming His amazing grace is actually amazing freedom. You are free to live according to your own desires. Sound familiar? They had no king and did what was right in their own eyes (Judges 17:6). These popular self-proclaimed ministers of the gospel are covering the slopes and will be held accountable for the spiritual death of millions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Preacher Steve Hill (the fiery evangelist from the Brownsville Revival) claims to have had a Divinely inspired prophetic vision from God: http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/34894-steve-hill-the-spiritual-avalanche-that-could-kill-millions . Charisma Magazine April 2013 says False teachings running rampant within he American church have a created a whiteout condition for millions of believers. Here's how to detect - and overcome - these destructive doctrines before it's too late. ... Then Hill lists 7 heretical teachings in the possible avalanche overcoming beleivers: ... 1. Overemphasis of Prosperity 2. Exaggerated View of Grace. [my comment: this refers to hyper-grace teachings of some who live in sin and use hyper-grace (i.e. readily available forgiveness) to justify repeated sins. In other words, do what you want since all the Christian needs is forgiveness to eradicate sin, then repeat the process.] 3. Antinomianism - against law [this is an extreme form of hyper-...grace]. In practice, it means that anything goes since Jesus ...has set us free. ... 4. Deification of Man We are in grave danger worldwide as millions upon millions gaze upon man rather than God. 5. Challenging the Authority of the Word [truth comes from God via the Bible]. 6. Rejecting Hell 7. Universal Reconciliation. 3.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Heretical teachings
Just as the ski patrol did in this vision, those who are aware of what's happening must take swift and accurate action. Their weapons of warfare must be aimed at the peaks and the 'avalanche terrain' to dispel the lies. All Spiritually experienced Meditators, Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers must be willing to drop spiritual bombs, fire anti-heresy missiles, and even drive into the danger zones armed with explosive truth to confront this potential avalanche. The generals of this generation must leave the war room and put their years of experience on the front lines. -Buck in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: It is helpful to compare play-books on this. We see these same things with Unified Field and meditation deniers. It's all such a sorry ignorance of spirituality and poverty of spiritual discipline. The white-out of spirituality: So-called 'Pastors' and 'teachers' worldwide have succumbed to heretical teachings including universal reconciliation, deification of man, challenging the validity of the Word of God including His judgements, and even lifting any boundaries, claiming His amazing grace is actually amazing freedom. You are free to live according to your own desires. Sound familiar? They had no king and did what was right in their own eyes (Judges 17:6). These popular self-proclaimed ministers of the gospel are covering the slopes and will be held accountable for the spiritual death of millions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: Preacher Steve Hill (the fiery evangelist from the Brownsville Revival) claims to have had a Divinely inspired prophetic vision from God: http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/34894-steve-hill-the-spiritual-avalanche-that-could-kill-millions . Charisma Magazine April 2013 says False teachings running rampant within he American church have a created a whiteout condition for millions of believers. Here's how to detect - and overcome - these destructive doctrines before it's too late. ... Then Hill lists 7 heretical teachings in the possible avalanche overcoming beleivers: ... 1. Overemphasis of Prosperity 2. Exaggerated View of Grace. [my comment: this refers to hyper-grace teachings of some who live in sin and use hyper-grace (i.e. readily available forgiveness) to justify repeated sins. In other words, do what you want since all the Christian needs is forgiveness to eradicate sin, then repeat the process.] 3. Antinomianism - against law [this is an extreme form of hyper-...grace]. In practice, it means that anything goes since Jesus ...has set us free. ... 4. Deification of Man We are in grave danger worldwide as millions upon millions gaze upon man rather than God. 5. Challenging the Authority of the Word [truth comes from God via the Bible]. 6. Rejecting Hell 7. Universal Reconciliation. 3.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Willkommen zurück, Michael and Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: A week in the coop, now you're back in the loop. German might be one of the most musical languages on this planet, because almost all of the most appreciated classical composers spoke German as their first language?? That's right, the best are obviously german :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tIbJviHGMI
[FairfieldLife] I guess...
...almost everyone else knew, that 'dalai' is a Mongolian word, *not* Tibetan... :/ Cf. *kublai* khan
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Dude is totally voguing at that sausage party. If Jesus had come back in 1990 he would have cleaned up with that move. Club kid on the bottom right just fell into a K hole. Better put a mirror under that nose to check. Nowadays MC JC is gunna need to serve up a little Harlem shake if he wants to clear some space on the dance floor for a little second coming action. (or first) Harlem Shake, my ass. That's for copycat wusses. If he really rose up these days, my bet is that he would get down as a B-boy, break-dancing at the Vatican sausage parties: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/398837_371670836\ 280293_78018402_n.jpg] And a shower would be nice, with a little modern day hair product. Things get a little sweaty out heagh when they start mixing up some Lil Wayne into Dre beats played backwards, and you can't start at camel on the stank-O-meter. Oh yeah, with all those dudes, Mr. Savior had better have Crystal and V.O. flowing like the Red Sea. (coughslotsofblow) Cuz dem threads are not gunna pull any honeys other than chicks from the burbs who maxed Daddy's credgit card buying those stripper heels, the push UP bra, and the I am rolling on E mirror top with the LEDs. They like free drinks. Lots of free drinks. (coughsagainblowandE) Good luck converting the vertical to the horizontal my shizzzavior. Happy Easter. (Trim the beard, North and most importantly wax down South. Nobody wants to see a burning bush today.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resur\ rection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: La Mer [Was Majorca Spain]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: (snip) A decade or so ago a friend of my Mum's went on such a trip and had a fabulous time. She is the town's ex-vicar's ex- wife. Following her divorce she discovered a love for the sea and for many years sailed a 26' yacht around the English South West coast (where the Spanish Armada began to get unstuck) and around the Med. Now, that's what I'd *really* like to do. Sadly, a 26-foot yacht ain't in the budget. Motor or sail? Sail. Her boat Kate was I think a Westerly Centaur 26. Such as this: http://goo.gl/F4BJJ *sigh* I've never been on a sailboat, except a Sailfish on a lake once many, many years ago. They were sturdy boats built in the seventies. Many are still seeing action and trading hands for not such big bucks. For an inanimate object, Joan had a pretty profound relationship with Kate. I believe failing health finally forced her to sell up in the end; but that was just a few years ago in her eighties. I'm sure she was gutted. Memories of Kate... On one occasion Joan took Kate out for a day trip from her home port of Salcombe with a few friends (including my mother). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salcombe. Unfortunately a thick sea fog descended just as they were heading back. In those days no one had GPS - you had to plot your course on a chart and use dead reckoning. Everyone had the utmost confidence in Joan, who was both highly experienced and proficient in navigation. But even so they all got a bit of shock when the fog lifted slightly and revealed that they had just inched through an extremely narrow gap between a large rock and the headland. You can just make it out here: http://goo.gl/tXU4q Ai! Did she do that deliberately, or by very lucky accident? If deliberately, why?? Oh, no, not deliberately. Even with all her experience and skill, navigation by dead reckoning is very fallible.
[FairfieldLife] My traditional Easter greetings to all...
[http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8602185749_228f1be19c.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Dude is totally voguing at that sausage party. If Jesus had come back in 1990 he would have cleaned up with that move. Club kid on the bottom right just fell into a K hole. Better put a mirror under that nose to check. Nowadays MC JC is gunna need to serve up a little Harlem shake if he wants to clear some space on the dance floor for a little second coming action. (or first) Harlem Shake, my ass. That's for copycat wusses. If he really rose up these days, my bet is that he would get down as a B-boy, break-dancing at the Vatican sausage parties: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/398837_371670836\ \ 280293_78018402_n.jpg] And a shower would be nice, with a little modern day hair product. Things get a little sweaty out heagh when they start mixing up some Lil Wayne into Dre beats played backwards, and you can't start at camel on the stank-O-meter. Oh yeah, with all those dudes, Mr. Savior had better have Crystal and V.O. flowing like the Red Sea. (coughslotsofblow) Cuz dem threads are not gunna pull any honeys other than chicks from the burbs who maxed Daddy's credgit card buying those stripper heels, the push UP bra, and the I am rolling on E mirror top with the LEDs. They like free drinks. Lots of free drinks. (coughsagainblowandE) Good luck converting the vertical to the horizontal my shizzzavior. Happy Easter. (Trim the beard, North and most importantly wax down South. Nobody wants to see a burning bush today.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resur\ \ rection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: My traditional Easter greetings to all...
It's been a long winter for many in parts of the US. Here's to hoping that when he roll that rock away fromhis burial crypt he doesn't see his shadow. Six more weeks of winter would just be a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8602185749_228f1be19c.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the account—the girl child. For burden she is—practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems exist—must be familiar with the idea that a girl is “paraya dhan,”—the treasure of another’s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her “true” family. The word “treasure” should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groom’s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan waybac...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? Probably not, I imagine they still hope that the stuff they teach about spontaneous right action and coherent behaviour is actually true and they therefore don't need a legal fall back. But if this story is true, it isn't an employee it's the guy at the top and he isn't going to want harassment guidelines is he? Still, at least he hasn't claimed he was helping her with her karma. I look forward to a full report in TM News magazine. What is the TM administration going to do about him? [?] The Girish story seems to broaden everyday. Do a google 'news' search for Girish Varma. He comes right up now, Times of India every day: Molestation, extortion, attemped murder, Sex in the back seat of an Audi. Five-Star Hotels. Other women come forward. It's very unfortunate. Jeeesus. The guy could take the whole Indian TM sub-continent down with him and TM Europe and the Americas too. Who would want to be associated with him? http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-sarasw\ ati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ Agreed, he could take the entire TMO down. At the very least, there will need to be major restructuring, looking over finances (that is if there is anything left for the TMO as opposed to the family members!). Girish could be the legacy that gets remembered. Starts with MMY and the Beatles and the finale is 50 years later with Girish. Somewhere here are lessons to be learned. It could be that TM-USA will separate from India. Seems in India it was just a big business with a cover story of education.. Here, we raised the money for
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
A picture really IS worth a thousand words. Excellent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Dude is totally voguing at that sausage party. If Jesus had come back in 1990 he would have cleaned up with that move. Club kid on the bottom right just fell into a K hole. Better put a mirror under that nose to check. Nowadays MC JC is gunna need to serve up a little Harlem shake if he wants to clear some space on the dance floor for a little second coming action. (or first) Harlem Shake, my ass. That's for copycat wusses. If he really rose up these days, my bet is that he would get down as a B-boy, break-dancing at the Vatican sausage parties: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/398837_371670836\ 280293_78018402_n.jpg] And a shower would be nice, with a little modern day hair product. Things get a little sweaty out heagh when they start mixing up some Lil Wayne into Dre beats played backwards, and you can't start at camel on the stank-O-meter. Oh yeah, with all those dudes, Mr. Savior had better have Crystal and V.O. flowing like the Red Sea. (coughslotsofblow) Cuz dem threads are not gunna pull any honeys other than chicks from the burbs who maxed Daddy's credgit card buying those stripper heels, the push UP bra, and the I am rolling on E mirror top with the LEDs. They like free drinks. Lots of free drinks. (coughsagainblowandE) Good luck converting the vertical to the horizontal my shizzzavior. Happy Easter. (Trim the beard, North and most importantly wax down South. Nobody wants to see a burning bush today.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resur\ rection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: My traditional Easter greetings to all...
I wish I had thought of that first. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote: It's been a long winter for many in parts of the US. Here's to hoping that when he roll that rock away fromhis burial crypt he doesn't see his shadow. Six more weeks of winter would just be a bitch. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8602185749_228f1be19c.jpg]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add). I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountâthe girl child. For burden she isâpractically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existâmust be familiar with the idea that a girl is âparaya dhan,ââthe treasure of anotherâs home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her âtrueâ family. The word âtreasureâ should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groomâs family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? Probably not, I imagine they still hope that the stuff they teach about spontaneous right action and coherent behaviour is actually true and they therefore don't need a legal fall back. But if this story is true, it isn't an employee it's the guy at the top and he isn't going to want harassment guidelines is he? Still, at least he hasn't claimed he was helping her with her karma. I look
[FairfieldLife] Obama Signature on Monsanto Protection Act Ignites Massive Activism
[Article image] Post a Comment http://www.nationofchange.org/obama-signature-monsanto-protection-act-i\ gnites-massive-activism-1364569139#comments Resize Text + | - | R Plain Text http://www.nationofchange.org/reader/37144 Print http://www.nationofchange.org/print/37144 SHARE http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationofchange.org\ %2Fobama-signature-monsanto-protection-act-ignites-massive-activism-1364\ 569139 Email http://www.nationofchange.org/obama-signature-monsanto-protection-act-i\ gnites-massive-activism-1364569139# While Monsanto executives may be rejoicing behind the closed doors of their corporate offices, they have also just stabbed themselves in the heart with the blatant and cocky decision to go through with the Monsanto Protection Act http://naturalsociety.com/obama-signs-monsanto-protection-act-into-law-\ after-promising-gmo-labeling-in-2007/ . Obama's social media profiles are being blown up with thousands of enraged activists and concerned citizens who are demanding answers. NationofChange is a 501(c)3 nonprofit funded directly by our readers. Please make a small donation to support our work. https://secure.nationofchange.org/?em=1 Thanks to the alternative news covering every angle of the Protection Act and the absurd fact that Monsanto actually wrote the rider itself, people have now come to fully understand just how deep the corruption goes when it comes to Monsanto's Big Food monopoly. And it doesn't exempt the President. It's a well known fact that the Obama family actually eats from the White House http://www.whitehouse.gov/ organic garden which was planted in 2009 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/dining/20garden.html?_r=0 and has full time staffers who maintain and harvest organic produce that comes from the garden. Many high level politicians actually refuse http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/28/arctic-doomsday-vault-grows-f\ ew-seeds-bigger/ to eat anything but organic, as they are fully aware of what's in `conventional', GMO-loaded items. Yet, despite this knowledge, they are quite eager to push Monsanto's GMOs and ruthless business model on the citizens of the United States. And the people are fully aware of the betrayal. Scanning just a few comments amid the thousands calling out Obama for his signature on the spending bill that contained the Monsanto Protection Act, we find seriously frustrated activists and voters who can't believe what they are seeing. Even many Obama campaigners who came to the realization that Obama didn't represent what they thought he did. One specifically mentions how Obama promised to label GMOs in 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WveF8YjYEE upon taking the seat of the President. A promise that never came to fruition. In fact, no real attempts were made at all. Here are a few comments among the thousands that I found interesting on Obama's wall https://www.facebook.com/barackobama?fref=ts : * Darlene Taylor: Barack Obama 2007: We'll let folks know if their food is genetically modified because Americans should know. 2013: He signed the Monsanto Protection Act making GMO giants immune to the law. * Erica Ecker: Apparently part of protecting our children no longer includes what goes in them. Thanks for signing the Monsanto Protection Act. * Keri Kline: I am an activist for President Obama, and I am outraged he has failed to listen to the `American people he represents' President Obama knowingly signed the Monsanto Protection Act over the insistence of more than 250,000 Americans who signed an urgent letter asking that he use his executive authority to veto H.R. 933 and send it back to Congress to remove the Monsanto Protection Act from the bill. Regretfully, President Obama failed to live up to his oath to protect the American people and our constitution. Overall, the decision to go with such a major act of corruption has jump started a massive movement to hold politicians and corporations accountable for their betrayal of the U.S. public. It's a move that has blown up in the face of those who thought they could slip it through into law.
Re: [FairfieldLife] President Barack Monsanto Obama
noozguru, and anyone else, what about the point that if Obama hadn't signed the bill, there would be no budget and the fed govt would have shut down for a week? Is that true? How the heck did the Monsanto aspect get put into the budget aspect? Do you think the Dems allowed the situation to avoid taking a stand against Monsanto? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] President Barack Monsanto Obama People are pissed that Obama is a shill for Monsanto. Glad to see the public reacting. Makes Michele's efforts for organic farming a bit phony. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57576835/critics-slam-obama-for-protecting-monsanto/ Do samyama on Destroy Monsanto.
[FairfieldLife] Hoping Steve will Learn to Read
Evidently you need to take some classes in basic reading comprehension - I did not say anything about Bevan and Company aiding and abetting GIRISH - I said they did that about MARSHY. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add). I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountâ€the girl child. For burden she isâ€practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existâ€must be familiar with the idea that a girl is “paraya dhan,â€�â€the treasure of another’s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her “trueâ€� family. The word “treasureâ€� should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groom’s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars
Excellent, thank you - I agree with everything you have said, although I still have some reservations about the practice itself after having talked with Mark Landau and due to all the old stories I have heard about suicides, major unstressing, and having seen people become emotionally disconnected and unable to function well in society - I have seen the latter myself, so I agree that TM can be ok for some, but it isn't without it's downside. And thanks for posting a cogent and well reasoned essay. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long term TM makes ones brain turn into mush and removes the ability to think clearly. A belief is a thought that the world is a certain way. It would seem the term 'knowledge' might refer to an experience or thought that correlates with the way the world really is. In practice though knowledge based on thought is hypothetical, that is, we cannot know a thought represents reality without a test of some kind. And if a thought refers to things we cannot test, then knowledge is impossible. I personally do not think TM turns the brain into mush. But one has to look at the environment in which it is used. Beginning meditators usually, if their experience is good, are enthusiastic, and one can excuse them for that. But if they get more involved, they find themselves enmeshed in an organisation that does not really allow creative independent thinking - everything in that environment tends toward doing what 'Maharishi expected people to do', which means that your thinking has to be along the lines of that rut. The TMO does not sanction independent thinking unless it brings in more cash (like Lynch for example) I was just looking at documents on the Zen-trained Adyashanti's web site. This is the complete summary of his teaching in his own words: Be still. Question every thought. Contemplate the source of Reality. That second line is interesting, since it seems to me to be fundamental to getting oneself out of the rut of mere belief. Spiritual engagement is such a peculiar thing to get involved in. It takes all sorts of bizarre forms. You need independent thinking to wade through the morass of conflicting and unbelievable beliefs one encounters in every kind of spiritual movement. You need to be curious. You really have to wonder how you have gotten yourself in such a situation, and how to get out of it what you came into it for. If you came into it to feel good, probably you will fail. If you came into it to become part of a community, probably you will fail in that greater task that is called enlightenment. The environment of the TMO and its suburbs I feel is not conducive to enlightenment unless a person is very focused on being enlightened; it will rot your brain; not the TM, that is a tool that can be used wisely or not, but constantly having to conform to a particular mindset will erode purpose. My experience was I began to forget my purpose. When I left, that purpose began to re-emerge. It was a subtle kind of suppression. I do not mind being around dedicated TMO-ites now, because I have my purpose and my life; they cannot infiltrate, and strangely TM had a big part to play in this, but it took a long time to unfold, not because any particular kind of meditation is inefficient, but because for most, including me, it just takes a long time to break through one's delusions. If you are aligned with a movement that fosters delusions, you are sunk.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 23-Mar-13 00:15:02 UTC
As usual Stevie, you are wrong - I do not denigrate all things TMO - the TMO has denigrated itself for nearly 60 years - I merely report. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 23-Mar-13 00:15:02 UTC --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: snip Weren't things like these attributed to support of nature? And I think you mean does it not 'indicate' the existence of a higher power. It necessitates the existence if we want them to be reinstated, given a reprieve, allowed to go over the limit once in a while and be pardoned. I, for one, wish both could post this week. Ann, I think I could do a better job of more clearly making my points. But, having said that. no, necessitateis the right word. (-: Here Judy got so carried away with this petty accusation, that she up and overposted herself. That is what I call instant karma. And if you believe in karma, then I think a higher power can't be far behind. I often like Judy's points, but this gloating thing, with its subsequent posts, seemed so off base, that I felt it was poetic justice that things worked out the way they did. And I can't help feel the same about Michael with his tireless campaign to denigrate all things TMO. But since that isn't likely Steve, you better be extra entertaining, interesting, brilliant and funny to make up for the absence of both MJ and Authfriend. Agreed? Ann, you have my word as a former cub scout, that I will do my best to FFL and my country to be entertaining, and brilliant and funny, so help me higher power. (-: But, just in case, can you ask Ravi to help out with the brilliant part. And any help with the funny part, I can leave with you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Rereading my original post I can see how you would think I was referring to Girish - but I was referring to Marshy From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add). I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountâ€the girl child. For burden she isâ€practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existâ€must be familiar with the idea that a girl is “paraya dhan,â€�â€the treasure of another’s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her “trueâ€� family. The word “treasureâ€� should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groom’s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? Probably not, I imagine
Re: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried to quit taking Valium cold turkey. Three days later he was dead, a suicide. Were you still involved when that happened? No, I had left a couple of years earlier, when the focus of what it was like to study with him shifted away from meditation and things that most (including me) considered spiritual, and began to focus on mainly business and career success. Besides, it had stopped being fun, so I split. Never regretted it.
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? I believe that he definitely experienced what many over the centuries have described as enlightened states of mind. Like Curtis, I do not call these states of mind higher states of consciousness, feeling that altered states is both more accurate and less likely to be misunderstood and misrepresented. No one has *ever* been able to prove that these states are higher than any other, only that they are different than what the mainstream experiences. Meditating with Rama in the early years was an exper- ience unlike any other I have had in this lifetime. The silence emanating from the dude was so profound that if you were sitting in the same room with him, there was no question of wanting to still your mind or stop thoughts. You couldn't *have* a thought. That said, I personally believe that two things fucked up the inner silence/seeming enlightenment he emanated in the early days of his teaching. The first was hubris: starting to believe his own PR, and allowing his already- sizable ego to grow out of control. The second was Valium. Towards the end he almost never meditated, and my belief is that the reason why is that he knew that those of us who had meditated with him years ago would notice the difference, and that he could no longer access -- much less radiate -- those deep levels of silent mind. Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? I have a three-day weekend, as does most of Europe. I'm back in the Netherlands, and they're off Monday as well. France still has a lot of Catholics, but on the whole they're a remarkably secular society, as is Spain and the Netherlands. That does *not* keep them from taking advantage of every religious holiday that comes around as a day off of work. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried to quit taking Valium cold turkey. Three days later he was dead, a suicide. Were you still involved when that happened? No, I had left a couple of years earlier, when the focus of what it was like to study with him shifted away from meditation and things that most (including me) considered spiritual, and began to focus on mainly business and career success. Besides, it had stopped being fun, so I split. Never regretted it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
Experiences like these are part of the reason I no longer believe enlightenment tied up in a neat package the way Marshy described it even exists - I think the old rishis in the ancient times were having all these self created opium dreams (brought on by inhaling too deeply of the forest floor molds) and made a complex system of ideas all about the experiences. I have read and heard too many accounts of people like Mark Landau and Robin who have what sound like truly fabulous experiences for months or years and then start just being regular people again, same with the Rama-man. I think that maybe we can all experience a plethora of states of awareness, alternating in flavor and intensity but who knows what the bottom line on all of it is? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? I believe that he definitely experienced what many over the centuries have described as enlightened states of mind. Like Curtis, I do not call these states of mind higher states of consciousness, feeling that altered states is both more accurate and less likely to be misunderstood and misrepresented. No one has *ever* been able to prove that these states are higher than any other, only that they are different than what the mainstream experiences. Meditating with Rama in the early years was an exper- ience unlike any other I have had in this lifetime. The silence emanating from the dude was so profound that if you were sitting in the same room with him, there was no question of wanting to still your mind or stop thoughts. You couldn't *have* a thought. That said, I personally believe that two things fucked up the inner silence/seeming enlightenment he emanated in the early days of his teaching. The first was hubris: starting to believe his own PR, and allowing his already- sizable ego to grow out of control. The second was Valium. Towards the end he almost never meditated, and my belief is that the reason why is that he knew that those of us who had meditated with him years ago would notice the difference, and that he could no longer access -- much less radiate -- those deep levels of silent mind. Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? I have a three-day weekend, as does most of Europe. I'm back in the Netherlands, and they're off Monday as well. France still has a lot of Catholics, but on the whole they're a remarkably secular society, as is Spain and the Netherlands. That does *not* keep them from taking advantage of every religious holiday that comes around as a day off of work. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried to quit taking Valium cold turkey. Three days later he was dead, a suicide. Were you still involved when that happened? No, I had left a couple of years earlier, when the focus of what it was like to study with him shifted away from meditation and things that most (including me) considered spiritual, and began to focus on mainly business and career success. Besides, it had stopped being fun, so I split. Never regretted it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide
Its called a form of sexual slavery From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide Yes her claim is seeming more and more ridiculous and implausible, you are on record here accepting them immediately and at face value though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years Rageshri Ganguly http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rageshri-Ganguly.cms , TNN | Mar 25, 2013, 09.21 PM IST BHOPAL: In a surprising turn of events, a teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) Ratanpur, who had earlier alleged sexual harassment http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/sexual-harassment against chairman of the group Girish Chandra Varma http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Girish-Chandra-Varma , went to the Mahila Thana http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thana-electric-supply-co-ltd/stocks/com panyid-12537.cms with her husband on Sunday to file an FIR http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/FIR of repeated rape in the same case. Though the police did not register an FIR, the police station received her written complaint. The victim alleged that the police were under pressure from Varma and she would move court with a private complaint. In the fresh complaint, the teacher alleged that Varma not only repeatedly raped her for 15 years from 1998, but also wanted her to bring students and teachers of MVM http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/MVM to him with bad intention. Also, she had alleged that Varma had threatened her and her husband with dire consequences, including death threats, if they did not comply with his wishes. After coming out of thana, she alleged, the attitude of the investing officer of sexual harassment case changed after she received a call on her mobile phone and she said that the investigation of the previous complaint is still on and hence any action would be taken only after into the case of sexual harassment. IO Seema Patel, on the other hand, remained tight-lipped. _ Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide MUMBAI: The woman complainant who had charged Girish Chandra Varma of Maharshi Group http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Maharshi-Group with sexual harassment and rape has threatened to commit suicide if police failed to register an FIR. The woman had on Sunday approached the police alleging that Varma, chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) group, had raped her for 15 years. The couple also demanded that Varma should resign from the post of chairman on moral grounds. The complainant and wife of Rajesh Sharma told media at a press conference here on Monday that the only way left for her and her family was to commit suicide. Unless the police register an FIR under sections of rape against Varma I would commit suicide in front of the chief minister's residence within a week, the complainant said. We would have to take the Geetika Sharma way ( suicide )to convince the world that we are truthful, Sharma told the media. The couple also revealed the circumstances under which the victim was raped repeatedly by Girish Chandra Varma, including the last time on January 1, 2013 in his Audi http://www.zigwheels.com/newcars/Audi car. The couple questioned that when the new rape law is in place, why the FIR was not being registered. In the name of investigation, police are just dilly dallying since March 11. When I have detailed out the circumstances of rape as asked by the police and have named Varma as the accused why an FIR is not being registered in this case?, the complainant alleged. It is also highly objectionable that police are accepting Varma's statement provided to them in a CD rather than interrogating him face-to-face, she said. The victim in her complaint has stated that Varma possessed some objectionable pictures and videos of her taken during the rape, which he had threatened to make public unless she complied with his demands. Since our families knew each other much before my marriage, I tried to sort out the matter at the women's panel. But since that has proved futile, the police should file an FIR in this matter, she said. The complaint also alleged that Varma had used her husband's e-mail account since October 2011 for sending mails and money transactions which later made out as proof http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Proof-(musician) against her. Also, my husband was made to sign on many blank papers while he was his personal secretary, which is now being used against him, she said. She reiterated that Mahila
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide
Take a look at this one Sri, and tell me what the lady alleges in Girish's case is unlikely - India is one fucked up country for women http://www.npr.org/2013/02/08/171372687/outside-the-big-city-a-harrowing-sexual-assault-in-rural-india From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... no_reply@... wrote: Yes her claim is seeming more and more ridiculous and implausible, you are on record here accepting them immediately and at face value though. Srijau, Is this the TM position on this now? To defend the accused publicly by attacking the victim? Is this what you are hearing in the middle of TM as position? Or is this your own (record)? Om, Interesting piece about women in India. http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175471907/on-indias-trains-seeking-safety-in-the-women-s-compartment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years Rageshri Ganguly http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rageshri-Ganguly.cms , TNN | Mar 25, 2013, 09.21 PM IST BHOPAL: In a surprising turn of events, a teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) Ratanpur, who had earlier alleged sexual harassment http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/sexual-harassment against chairman of the group Girish Chandra Varma http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Girish-Chandra-Varma , went to the Mahila Thana http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thana-electric-supply-co-ltd/stocks/com panyid-12537.cms with her husband on Sunday to file an FIR http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/FIR of repeated rape in the same case. Though the police did not register an FIR, the police station received her written complaint. The victim alleged that the police were under pressure from Varma and she would move court with a private complaint. In the fresh complaint, the teacher alleged that Varma not only repeatedly raped her for 15 years from 1998, but also wanted her to bring students and teachers of MVM http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/MVM to him with bad intention. Also, she had alleged that Varma had threatened her and her husband with dire consequences, including death threats, if they did not comply with his wishes. After coming out of thana, she alleged, the attitude of the investing officer of sexual harassment case changed after she received a call on her mobile phone and she said that the investigation of the previous complaint is still on and hence any action would be taken only after into the case of sexual harassment. IO Seema Patel, on the other hand, remained tight-lipped. _ Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide MUMBAI: The woman complainant who had charged Girish Chandra Varma of Maharshi Group http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Maharshi-Group with sexual harassment and rape has threatened to commit suicide if police failed to register an FIR. The woman had on Sunday approached the police alleging that Varma, chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) group, had raped her for 15 years. The couple also demanded that Varma should resign from the post of chairman on moral grounds. The complainant and wife of Rajesh Sharma told media at a press conference here on Monday that the only way left for her and her family was to commit suicide. Unless the police register an FIR under sections of rape against Varma I would commit suicide in front of the chief minister's residence within a week, the complainant said. We would have to take the Geetika Sharma way ( suicide )to convince the world that we are truthful, Sharma told the media. The couple also revealed the circumstances under which the victim was raped repeatedly by Girish Chandra Varma, including the last time on January 1, 2013 in his Audi http://www.zigwheels.com/newcars/Audi car. The couple questioned that when the new rape law is in place, why the FIR was not being registered. In the name of investigation, police are just dilly dallying since March 11. When I have detailed out the circumstances of rape as asked by the police and have named Varma
Re: [FairfieldLife] Healing the Wounded
Did it ever occur to you that one can experience fabulous energy in any group of people just because we are all composed of Universal Energy and if the group is in any way aware of Universal Energy one will feel good energy in the group and it don't have nothin' to do with TM Sidhi? Of course if I am right, one would feel good energy from being in a group of TM Sidhi practice, as long as the practitioners are not asleep or just sitting there looking around. By the way, if the Marshy Effect is real, why is it that from posts on the MUM Secrets page, students are smoking pot, having sex on top of the Domes and even jerking off in the Domes - how can the ME not be negating such behavior? From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Healing the Wounded I would like to offer help to these spiritually downfallen here. I'd like to suggest their looking at coming to meditate with the large group again … This summer for an upliftment and re-awakening. I should tell you the spiritual field affect of Shakti of the place here is profound. I notice there is going to be a course in the summer for people to sample this: http://blog.mum.edu/2012/04/experience-the-self/ I mean, like for instance someone who is making scads of money off on temporary contracts, who has no responsibilities otherwise could help themselves and everything coming back to meditation with the group. The science indicates this. The spiritual experience is palpable. The field effect here is incredible. People should make the best use of it for themselves to come Be in it. Come to Fairfield for good spiritual reasons. Om Shanti, -Buck in the Dome
Re: [FairfieldLife] MGF Chat 20 March 2013 - The Maharishi Vedic Pandit Programme
Ahh, good old Merlin! Just when I thought I couldn't be rocked again by anything on FFL, and here I see the name of the person I disliked most at MIU, Chris Crowell. He was without doubt the most arrogant, elitist out to lunch member of MIU in my time there - by out to lunch I mean this guy had no clue what life was like for regular people, especially the staff who actually did the physical labor of keeping the place going. He would come into the kitchen and in a haughty manner proceed to lecture us on how we were doing our tapas for enlightenment and how he had started working for the Movement in the kitchen and now look at him, look what he had accomplished. As far as any of us could see all he had accomplished was being a minor martinet who schemed ways to get more money for the university to pass on to Marshy and his greedy kin. Had I had any sense at the time, I would have stopped TM then instead of continuing a few more years, if I had looked at that sob and said Damn! I don't want to be like him! The fact that this quality of individual is a so-called Minister of Culture and religion makes me very glad the Global Country of world Peace is only Marshy's bullshit fantasy and has no actual impact or effect on anything except in the minds of people who fund it. From: merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de To: Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MGF Chat 20 March 2013 - The Maharishi Vedic Pandit Programme Maharishi’s Global Family Chat March 20, 2013 The Maharishi Vedic Pandit Programme: Bringing fulfillment to the goals of every religion and culture through the enlivenment of Total Natural Law. ~ In this Maharishi Global Family Chat, Dr. Chris Crowell, Minister of Religion and Culture for the Global Country of World Peace, presented the understanding of how the knowledge and application of Maharishi Yoga and Maharishi Yagya can systematically create a more heavenly time of peace and progress for all mankind. The presentation began with a short video clip of Maharishi beautifully describing the Vedic Pandits and their ability to transform the trends of life. He explained how these Vedic Experts experience and function from the Unified Field of Nature’s intelligence, utilizing the reverberations of Natural Law—the sounds of the Veda—to neutralize negative influences for individuals and nations. Using charts from modern science, and animation, Dr. Crowell then illustrated the mechanics of Vedic technologies that maintain the connection of the vast infinite range of diversity of life with that holistic value of Total Natural Law, harmonizing differences between religions and cultures. Yoga and Yagya: Maharishi Vedic Pandits, established in the Atma, the field of pure consciousness, are able to enliven the supreme governing intelligence of Natural Law so that a universal influence of peace is created for the people of every tradition in every land. Dr. Crowell explained that many cultures around the world have traditions of sound and ceremony to enliven Natural Law in specific ways. But it is only with Maharishi’s restoration of Vedic technologies to deepen the experience of the performance from a more fundamental level of life, to awaken individual and collective consciousness, that these ceremonies and recitations can regain their alliance with Natural Law and produce the desired results of abundance, progress and peace. * The presentation ended with a slide show of the history of the Maharishi Vedic Pandit programme from the first global Mahayagya performance in modern times, organized by Maharishi’s Guru Dev, Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, in February 1944, through the inauguration in June 1982 of the education wing of the Movement that specifically trains Maharishi Vedic Pandits, to the expansion of the first large groups of Yogic Flying Vedic Pandits in the mid to late 1980s, to finally, the present establishment of the Global Capital of Raam Raj in the Brahmasthan of India. A Historic Vision of the Maharishi Vedic Pandit Programme: Decade after decade, the world’s greatest peace-creating group has guided the trends of time. Dr. Crowell ended by thanking all those well-wishers throughout our world family, from every religion and culture, who have contributed to the preservation and expansion of the Maharishi Vedic Pandit Programme for World Peace. “One really feels the great purity of the life of the Maharishi Vedic Pandits who have been trained to safeguard the destiny of the world. Thank you very much to every single individual around the globe who is supporting this historic peace initiative.” ** Four Levels of Speech: In a short video, Dr. John Hagelin described the necessity for Vedic Pandits to perform from all four
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Secret of the Mantras
all I know about Susan Shumsky is she was in Fairfield, took Bob Fickes' channeling class, started channeling for money, had the Dome police breathing down her neck for unapproved activities along with a bunch of other people who were into it in 1987, Shumsky was one of the few who fought back, claiming that her channeling wasn't channeling at all, but rather her way of praying - seemed to work, I think the Dome cops backed off. seems to think quite highly of herself - here is her bio from Amazon Biography Dr. Susan Shumsky is a best-selling author, foremost spirituality expert, pioneer in the self-development field, highly-acclaimed and greatly respected professional speaker, New Thought minister, and Doctor of Divinity. She has authored Divine Revelation, in continuous print with Simon Schuster for 14 years, as well as the award-winning Miracle Prayer, published by Random House, and Exploring Chakras, plus How to Hear the Voice of God, Exploring Meditation, and Exploring Auras. Her upcoming book is called Ascension. All her books have been published in several languages worldwide. Dr. Shumsky has practiced self-development disciplines for over 40 years. For 22 years she lived in the Himalayas, the Swiss Alps, and other secluded areas, under the personal guidance and on the personal staff of enlightened master from India Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of Transcendental Meditation and guru of the Beatles and Deepak Chopra. She then studied New Thought and metaphysics for another 20 years and became a Doctor of Divinity. Dr. Shumsky has taught yoga, meditation, prayer, and intuition to thousands of students all over the world since 1970 as a true New Thought pioneer. She has done over 500 speaking engagements and over 500 media appearances since her first book was published, including Woman's World, GQ, Cosmopolitan, nationally syndicated TV and radio on ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX, and Coast to Coast AM with George Noory. She is the founder of Divine Revelation®, a complete technology for contacting the divine presence and listening to the inner voice. She now travels extensively in a motor home, facilitating workshops, seminars, spiritual retreats, as well as tours to India, Peru, and other sacred destinations. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Secret of the Mantras From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Secret of the Mantras Rick Archer: The Secret of the Mantras Show me ANY Devangiri bija mantra in ANY Sanskrit, old Brahmi, Hindi, or Urdu lexicon, or in ANY Veda, in any Vedic Literature, or in ANY Berlitz or Rosetta Stone Hindi phrase guide. Just one. Or, failing that, post a flash card showing your bija mantra in any common prakrit; or failing that, just post one URL to a Yantra graphic that shows the bija mantra for Saraswati. Thanks in advance, Rick. LoL! The answer is here: 'Exploring Chakras: Awaken Your Untapped Energy' by Susan G. Shumsky 'Secret of Seed (Bija) Mantras' by David Frawley I don’t know about all that. The book’s title was derived from that fact that when its author became an initiator on the Beatles’ TTC, MMY was giving out only one mantra. But that’s not the most interesting part of the book. There was some interesting stuff about Charlie Lutes vs. The Beatles, and other stuff I hadn’t known.
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Experiences like these are part of the reason I no longer believe enlightenment tied up in a neat package the way Marshy described it even exists - I think the old rishis in the ancient times were having all these self created opium dreams (brought on by inhaling too deeply of the forest floor molds) and made a complex system of ideas all about the experiences. I have read and heard too many accounts of people like Mark Landau and Robin who have what sound like truly fabulous experiences for months or years and then start just being regular people again, same with the Rama-man. FWIW, Robin's case is more complicated than that. After 10 years of stable, 24/7 Unity consciousness, it took him *25 years* of the most intense, determined effort to get back to being a regular person again. According to him, it was exceedingly difficult and involved great suffering. I don't know what that says about the nature of enlightenment, but my guess is that one can't really say any one example of this sort of thing is the same as any other. One needs to look at them on a case-by-case basis. I think that maybe we can all experience a plethora of states of awareness, alternating in flavor and intensity but who knows what the bottom line on all of it is?
Re: [FairfieldLife] President Barack Monsanto Obama
Probably better the US government get shutdown than for the asura Monsanto to poison the world. On 03/30/2013 07:36 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, and anyone else, what about the point that if Obama hadn't signed the bill, there would be no budget and the fed govt would have shut down for a week? Is that true? How the heck did the Monsanto aspect get put into the budget aspect? Do you think the Dems allowed the situation to avoid taking a stand against Monsanto? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] President Barack Monsanto Obama People are pissed that Obama is a shill for Monsanto. Glad to see the public reacting. Makes Michele's efforts for organic farming a bit phony. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57576835/critics-slam-obama-for-protecting-monsanto/ Do samyama on Destroy Monsanto.
[FairfieldLife] Europe Freezes, But Help Is At Hand
http://youtu.be/oJLqyuxm96k
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bhairitu will enjoy this
They both suck. The big telecoms need to be broken up. I also heard how in many areas Republicans are working against community fiber optic plans so that their telecom buddies can extort the public. One thing about ATT though it may depend on what system locally they took over because around here many of the people I deal with worked for PacBell which was the company that Southern Bell (now ATT) took over. Comcast is like a carnival midway and you would expect carnival music while waiting on hold. Regionally Sonic is the better provider but our Supreme Court goons ruled that ATT could charge exorbitantly to allow them to piggy back on their system and they can't be on their fiber at all. America sucks big time! On 03/29/2013 06:19 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Take it from someone with experience - AtT sucks big time particularly when it comes to Internet - Comcast sucks as far as being a TV provider, but their Xfinity internet is way better than U Verse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEvRL9h643o Warning - there is plenty of profanity - also shows the down side of being attached to the outcome of an activity. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bhairitu will enjoy this Maybe they will pay you some interest too. When I switched from Earthlink to ATT Broadband they were supposed to give me a $50 rebate to help defray the cost of the modem/router. They messed up the account and I didn't get the rebate at least right away. A little over a year later the modem/router died and though out of warranty I talked them into replacing it (probably because the support person thought that it sucked that it died just a little out of warranty). In the process they must have reviewed the account and found they never paid me the rebate so sent a check with interest. When I went to U-Verse Internet and phone with ATT they sent a $100 gift card. I knew to use it up within the first month or Visa would charge a fee. So all purchases were done with it instead of cash. I'm contemplating replacing Comcast with their TV service and I would get a $200 gift card and to same with it. There's not a lot of choice when it comes to TV and I've even considered doing without (cutting the cable). Most shows I really want to watch can still be seen using Hulu Plus and most of the cable network shows with Vudu or Amazon. Comcast may start encrypting the limited basic channels anyway rendering my computer TV tuners extinct. On 03/26/2013 07:55 AM, Share Long wrote: Thank you to Doc, Alex and noozguru for all the great info. Let me tell you of my adventures yesterday with Verizon the Obsequious. For my first foray they used the Bold Strategy of having me be hung up on while waiting for Customer Service. But being the dauntless lass that FFL has made me, gratitude all around, I dialed in again, waffled through the automated menu and this time got an actual person! Christian. Christian who kept putting me on hold. And then thanking me for being patient when he returned. Dear Christian of course had no way of knowing that I loathe and detest when someone, even in 3D life, thanks me for being patient. What in God's name makes them think I'm being patient?! I'm pure pitta for God's sake! There's not a patient bone in my body. Instead I follow Mark Russell's advice that the secret of patience is to do something else in the meantime. Now that's a strategy dear to any pitta's heart. But back to Verizon. Then Christian passed me to another person, Michelle. Michelle with the Bad Customer Karma, where Bad refers both to the Customer, Me, and to her Karma. Anyway, she made it clear how lucky I was that we didn't have to wait 72 hours to access my account history. They quickly located my December 2012 balance which was $208.25! But, you gotta love how the buts keep coming, but I had to buy another month for $15 to even find out if they would credit my account! So I did. Then she announced the total fee, $16.38 which dismayed me because for 8 1/2 years, as I told the hapless Michelle, the monthly amount with taxes was $16.05. She floundered about, probably thinking at this point that I was a test customer. Rather than simply a testy one ha ha. We soldiered on, she put me on hold again, thanked me again for about the 6 billionth time for being patient and then informed me that the amount was not only too high for her to authorize but also too high for her supervisor to authorize! Talk about cults! Soo, I will have to wait, patient person that they think I am, probably another 72 hours to see if I get the $208.25 credited back to my account. They now know that I got other options. But if they don't do what's right, by gum, I'm outta there and may they
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy
Or North Korea is taking orders from the US Military Industrial Complex. All kinds of money to be made with a big war and maybe setting off a nuke (false flag) in Austin would get the fearful American sheep to march in step to support a big war. On 03/29/2013 06:19 PM, John wrote: Kim Jong Un's actions don't fit with his ayurvedic body constitution. IMO, he's a puppet of the North Korean Army generals. He's a type that would prefer to eat than fight. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: So what did Willy do to piss off the Jong Un? http://www.kvue.com/news/NKorea-orders-rocket-prep-after-US-B-2-drill-200590371.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
Curtis, an editorial comment, if you don't mind. This isn't funny. No, it has nothing to do with blasphemy or disrespect or anything like that. It's because the mockery has so little connection to what you're mocking. Same with your previous attempt. I don't know whether you'll be able to see this. It took me a little while to figure out why the two posts fall so flat. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Dude is totally voguing at that sausage party. If Jesus had come back in 1990 he would have cleaned up with that move. Club kid on the bottom right just fell into a K hole. Better put a mirror under that nose to check. Nowadays MC JC is gunna need to serve up a little Harlem shake if he wants to clear some space on the dance floor for a little second coming action. (or first) And a shower would be nice, with a little modern day hair product. Things get a little sweaty out heagh when they start mixing up some Lil Wayne into Dre beats played backwards, and you can't start at camel on the stank-O-meter. Oh yeah, with all those dudes, Mr. Savior had better have Crystal and V.O. flowing like the Red Sea. (coughslotsofblow) Cuz dem threads are not gunna pull any honeys other than chicks from the burbs who maxed Daddy's credgit card buying those stripper heels, the push UP bra, and the I am rolling on E mirror top with the LEDs. They like free drinks. Lots of free drinks. (coughsagainblowandE) Good luck converting the vertical to the horizontal my shizzzavior. Happy Easter. (Trim the beard, North and most importantly wax down South. Nobody wants to see a burning bush today.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ no_reply@ wrote: Yes her claim is seeming more and more ridiculous and implausible, you are on record here accepting them immediately and at face value though. Srijau, Is this the TM position on this now? To defend the accused publicly by attacking the victim? I have done nothing to attack the victim, that is a distortion on your part. Is this what you are hearing in the middle of TM as position? I have no formal connexion to the Global Country of World Peace, no financial interest of any kind and no close friendships with any of the principals. Or is this your own (record)? Om, Interesting piece about women in India. http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175471907/on-indias-trains-seeking-safety-in-the-women-s-compartment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years Rageshri Ganguly http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rageshri-Ganguly.cms , TNN | Mar 25, 2013, 09.21 PM IST BHOPAL: In a surprising turn of events, a teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) Ratanpur, who had earlier alleged sexual harassment http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/sexual-harassment against chairman of the group Girish Chandra Varma http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Girish-Chandra-Varma , went to the Mahila Thana http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thana-electric-supply-co-ltd/stocks/com panyid-12537.cms with her husband on Sunday to file an FIR http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/FIR of repeated rape in the same case. Though the police did not register an FIR, the police station received her written complaint. The victim alleged that the police were under pressure from Varma and she would move court with a private complaint. In the fresh complaint, the teacher alleged that Varma not only repeatedly raped her for 15 years from 1998, but also wanted her to bring students and teachers of MVM http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/MVM to him with bad intention. Also, she had alleged that Varma had threatened her and her husband with dire consequences, including death threats, if they did not comply with his wishes. After coming out of thana, she alleged, the attitude of the investing officer of sexual harassment case changed after she received a call on her mobile phone and she said that the investigation of the previous complaint is still on and hence any action would be taken only after into the case of sexual harassment. IO Seema Patel, on the other hand, remained tight-lipped. _ Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide MUMBAI: The woman complainant who had charged Girish Chandra Varma of Maharshi Group http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Maharshi-Group with sexual harassment and rape has threatened to commit suicide if police failed to register an FIR. The woman had on Sunday approached the police alleging that Varma, chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) group, had raped her for 15 years. The couple also demanded that Varma should resign from the post of chairman on moral grounds. The complainant and wife of Rajesh Sharma told media at a press conference here on Monday that the only way left for her and her family was to commit suicide. Unless the police register an FIR under sections of rape against Varma I would commit suicide in front of the chief minister's residence within a week, the complainant said. We would have to take the Geetika Sharma way ( suicide )to convince the world that we are truthful, Sharma told the media. The couple also revealed the circumstances under which the victim was raped repeatedly by Girish Chandra Varma, including the last time on January 1, 2013 in his Audi http://www.zigwheels.com/newcars/Audi car. The couple questioned that when the new rape law is in place, why the FIR was not being registered. In the name of investigation, police are just dilly dallying since March 11. When I have detailed out the circumstances of rape as asked by the police and have named Varma as the accused why an FIR is not being registered in this case?, the complainant alleged. It is also highly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? Probably not, I imagine they still hope that the stuff they teach about spontaneous right action and coherent behaviour is actually true and they therefore don't need a legal fall back. But if this story is true, it isn't an employee it's the guy at the top and he isn't going to want harassment guidelines is he? Still, at least he hasn't claimed he was helping her with her karma. I look forward to a full report in TM News magazine. What is the TM administration going to do about him? [?] The Girish story seems to broaden everyday. Do a google 'news' search for Girish Varma. He comes right up now, Times of India every day: Molestation, extortion, attemped murder, Sex in the back seat of an Audi. Five-Star Hotels. Other women come forward. There is no other woman come forward this is not so. Show here even one news article to even indicate such a thing. Its all the same accuser. It's very unfortunate. Jeeesus. The guy could take the whole Indian TM sub-continent down with him and TM Europe and the Americas too. Who would want to be associated with him? http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saraswati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years / Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ no_reply@ wrote: Yes her claim is seeming more and more ridiculous and implausible, you are on record here accepting them immediately and at face value though. Srijau, Is this the TM position on this now? To defend the accused publicly by attacking the victim? I have done nothing to attack the victim, even at that I should have said alleging victim as it is more than likely that Girish Varma is the victim here, no married women was raped for 15 years and who was not confined. Its not attacking anyone to point out that it is ridiculous. People can and will say all kinds of things but it does not make it so, influential people get shaked down all the time by people who think they can extort easy money and then when the plan backfires they resort to more desperate measures and threats. It is not an indication that their claim is plausible and its no defamation of anyone to point that out. that is a distortion on your part. Is this what you are hearing in the middle of TM as position? I have no formal connexion to the Global Country of World Peace, no financial interest of any kind and no close friendships with any of the principals. Or is this your own (record)? Om, Interesting piece about women in India. http://www.npr.org/2013/03/28/175471907/on-indias-trains-seeking-safety-in-the-women-s-compartment --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Now, teacher alleges Girish Chandra Varma raped her for 15 years Rageshri Ganguly http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Rageshri-Ganguly.cms , TNN | Mar 25, 2013, 09.21 PM IST BHOPAL: In a surprising turn of events, a teacher of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) Ratanpur, who had earlier alleged sexual harassment http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/sexual-harassment against chairman of the group Girish Chandra Varma http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Girish-Chandra-Varma , went to the Mahila Thana http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/thana-electric-supply-co-ltd/stocks/com panyid-12537.cms with her husband on Sunday to file an FIR http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/FIR of repeated rape in the same case. Though the police did not register an FIR, the police station received her written complaint. The victim alleged that the police were under pressure from Varma and she would move court with a private complaint. In the fresh complaint, the teacher alleged that Varma not only repeatedly raped her for 15 years from 1998, but also wanted her to bring students and teachers of MVM http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/MVM to him with bad intention. Also, she had alleged that Varma had threatened her and her husband with dire consequences, including death threats, if they did not comply with his wishes. After coming out of thana, she alleged, the attitude of the investing officer of sexual harassment case changed after she received a call on her mobile phone and she said that the investigation of the previous complaint is still on and hence any action would be taken only after into the case of sexual harassment. IO Seema Patel, on the other hand, remained tight-lipped. _ Victim, Girish Chandra Varma with sexual harassment threatens to commit suicide MUMBAI: The woman complainant who had charged Girish Chandra Varma of Maharshi Group http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Maharshi-Group with sexual harassment and rape has threatened to commit suicide if police failed to register an FIR. The woman had on Sunday approached the police alleging that Varma, chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir (MVM) group, had raped her for 15 years. The couple also demanded that Varma should resign from the post of chairman on moral grounds. The complainant and wife of Rajesh Sharma told media at a press conference here on Monday that the only way left for her and her family was to commit suicide. Unless the police register an FIR under sections of rape against Varma I would commit suicide in front of the chief minister's
[FairfieldLife] Question for Barry
Didja ever see Watchmen? If so what did you think of it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kim Jung Un is Angry with Willy
Or from the Illuminati. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Or North Korea is taking orders from the US Military Industrial Complex. All kinds of money to be made with a big war and maybe setting off a nuke (false flag) in Austin would get the fearful American sheep to march in step to support a big war. On 03/29/2013 06:19 PM, John wrote: Kim Jong Un's actions don't fit with his ayurvedic body constitution. IMO, he's a puppet of the North Korean Army generals. He's a type that would prefer to eat than fight. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: So what did Willy do to piss off the Jong Un? http://www.kvue.com/news/NKorea-orders-rocket-prep-after-US-B-2-drill-200590371.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Barry
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Didja ever see Watchmen? If so what did you think of it? To be honest, I was underwhelmed, and don't remember enough about it to remember why. It was billed as the movie version of the best graphic novel ever, but because I've never really been a graphic novel fan, that didn't do much for me. This is not to say that I might not have enjoyed it at the time, only that it left no lasting impression whatsoever, like the olde story about eating Chinese food and being hungry again an hour later.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoping Steve will Learn to Read
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Evidently you need to take some classes in basic reading comprehension - I did not say anything about Bevan and Company aiding and abetting GIRISH - I said they did that about MARSHY. Why don't you just post out and shut up ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Teach meditation to 40 formerly incarcerated youth
You are right Nappy, you do get what you pay for - when you pay for TM, you get a meditation technique backed up by 58 years of fraud, deceit and a manipulative guru. But that's not all - with your basic TM initiation fee, you receive an endless stream of entreaties to give, give, give more and more and more money to the TM Movement, always, of course, for the best and highest good of the world. In addition, if you call your nearest TM Peace Palace in the next 15 minutes you will also receive the opportunity to buy, at exorbitant prices, a vast array of ridiculous smoke and mirrors, snake oil and nostrums that will never lead to enlightenment, perfect health or a sublime life. Your TM initiation also entitles you to pay big money to learn a set of techniques that purport to give you super-normal abilities, yet have no actual demonstrable effects - originally they were taught as the fast track to enlightenment, being 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone, and will lead to even more absurd promises whose actual fulfillment have very little effect other than to separate you from your money and your good common sense. Best of all, if you mention David Lynch's name when you get your TM mantra, you will have the opportunity to lose a great deal more money by having a Marshy approved home designer design a new and totally unnecessary home for you that will cost a lot of money and face east. One additional perk of learning TM is the satisfaction of immersing yourself in a fear based ideology - if you don't participate in group program, you will be responsible for not preventing any number of natural and man made disasters, if you enter or exit any building with a south facing entrance you will suffer mightily, if you expose yourself to a solar eclipse, you will surely experience bad karma and on and on. All of these things are proof positive that TM is by far the very best meditation technique for creating problems in life and screwing up peoples minds. You can tell its the best by the price tag, and after all don't you WANT to contribute to Girish's legal defense fund? Even tho he is a wealthy man, of course Hagelin and the boys are gonna raise money to pay his legal defense - the TM Movement and its pimps ALWAYS get TM True Believes to pay the freight, rather than paying for stuff themselves. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Teach meditation to 40 formerly incarcerated youth --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I think they're excuses, made by people who, if they were being honest, cannot find any way to justify to *themselves* the unconscionably high prices that the TMO charges for TM, but feel the need to make such justifications to others. The high prices are a form of discrimination. Only the wealthy or well-to-do (or those who have some organization willing to pay the fee *for* them) get to learn TM. The rest can go suck eggs. This is the TM version of compassion. DrD's comment above is a proper answer to your endless nonsense. He wrote: You get what you pay for. That is why most people have never heard of these two meditation programs - No one with any name recognition has found them to be successful, so rather than generating interest, or even controversy, these two marginal techniques are relegated to the backwaters of spiritual concern. Perhaps you can amuse yourself by finding all the other free and useless forms of meditation available around the globe, and then please share them with us. That is, when you aren't sticking your finger someplace warm and stinky.:-)
[FairfieldLife] More on Nagel's Mind Cosmos
This is an interesting blog post IMO: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/nagel-and-his-critics-part-viii.html Or http://goo.gl/QulfS How much of our existential anguish can be laid at the feet of Monsieur R. Descartes? From the concrete material objects of everyday life, Descartes and the moderns who have followed him derived two abstractions (as I discussed in an earlier post). First, they abstracted out those features that could be captured in exclusively quantitative terms, reified this abstraction, and called that reified abstraction matter, or the physical, or that which is objective. Second, they abstracted those qualitative features that would not fit the first, quantitative picture, reified that abstraction, and called it the mental, or that which is subjective. Once this move was made, there was never in principle going to be a way to get mind and matter together again, since they were in effect defined by contrast with one another.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoping Steve will Learn to Read
My bad. I didn't mean to steal your thunder. I guess I was just anticipating the connection you were going to make in your next post. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Evidently you need to take some classes in basic reading comprehension - I did not say anything about Bevan and Company aiding and abetting GIRISH - I said they did that about MARSHY. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add).  I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountââ¬the girl child. For burden she isââ¬practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existââ¬must be familiar with the idea that a girl is ââ¬Åparaya dhan,ââ¬ï¿½Ã¢â¬the treasure of anotherââ¬â¢s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her ââ¬Åtrueââ¬ï¿½ family. The word ââ¬Åtreasureââ¬ï¿½ should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groomââ¬â¢s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Excellent, thank you - I agree with everything you have said, although I still have some reservations about the practice itself after having talked with Mark Landau and due to all the old stories I have heard about suicides, major unstressing, and having seen people become emotionally disconnected and unable to function well in society Okay, okay. Michael, some might say it works both ways. You stop the practice and.. Just sayin.. and you know how it works, hey doc a friend of mine is in a 12 step program and... hey doc, a friend of mine seems to be a little emotionally disconnected and.. It's always, that friend of mine just sayin, sayin - I have seen the latter myself, so I agree that TM can be ok for some, but it isn't without it's downside. And thanks for posting a cogent and well reasoned essay. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and its Rock Stars  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Every exchange like this just reinforces my belief that long term TM makes ones brain turn into mush and removes the ability to think clearly. A belief is a thought that the world is a certain way. It would seem the term 'knowledge' might refer to an experience or thought that correlates with the way the world really is. In practice though knowledge based on thought is hypothetical, that is, we cannot know a thought represents reality without a test of some kind. And if a thought refers to things we cannot test, then knowledge is impossible. I personally do not think TM turns the brain into mush. But one has to look at the environment in which it is used. Beginning meditators usually, if their experience is good, are enthusiastic, and one can excuse them for that. But if they get more involved, they find themselves enmeshed in an organisation that does not really allow creative independent thinking - everything in that environment tends toward doing what 'Maharishi expected people to do', which means that your thinking has to be along the lines of that rut. The TMO does not sanction independent thinking unless it brings in more cash (like Lynch for example) I was just looking at documents on the Zen-trained Adyashanti's web site. This is the complete summary of his teaching in his own words: Be still. Question every thought. Contemplate the source of Reality. That second line is interesting, since it seems to me to be fundamental to getting oneself out of the rut of mere belief. Spiritual engagement is such a peculiar thing to get involved in. It takes all sorts of bizarre forms. You need independent thinking to wade through the morass of conflicting and unbelievable beliefs one encounters in every kind of spiritual movement. You need to be curious. You really have to wonder how you have gotten yourself in such a situation, and how to get out of it what you came into it for. If you came into it to feel good, probably you will fail. If you came into it to become part of a community, probably you will fail in that greater task that is called enlightenment. The environment of the TMO and its suburbs I feel is not conducive to enlightenment unless a person is very focused on being enlightened; it will rot your brain; not the TM, that is a tool that can be used wisely or not, but constantly having to conform to a particular mindset will erode purpose. My experience was I began to forget my purpose. When I left, that purpose began to re-emerge. It was a subtle kind of suppression. I do not mind being around dedicated TMO-ites now, because I have my purpose and my life; they cannot infiltrate, and strangely TM had a big part to play in this, but it took a long time to unfold, not because any particular kind of meditation is inefficient, but because for most, including me, it just takes a long time to break through one's delusions. If you are aligned with a movement that fosters delusions, you are sunk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More on Nagel's Mind Cosmos
Interesting, yes, but I think it misses the point. The first comment on that post does a good job explaining the real point, but Feser's response to it completely misses it again! The commenter quotes Chalmers at length, concluding with this: How can we explain why there is something it is like to entertain a mental image, or to experience an emotion? ...Why should physical processing give rise to a rich inner life at all? It seems objectively unreasonable that it should, and yet it does. To put it another way, the question isn't why things-- including mental experience--seem to us the way they do, but *why should there be such a thing as seeming* in the first place? So much philosophical discussion of consciousness takes seeming for granted, when it's the very thing that requires explanation. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: This is an interesting blog post IMO: http://edwardfeser.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/nagel-and-his-critics-part-viii.html Or http://goo.gl/QulfS How much of our existential anguish can be laid at the feet of Monsieur R. Descartes? From the concrete material objects of everyday life, Descartes and the moderns who have followed him derived two abstractions (as I discussed in an earlier post). First, they abstracted out those features that could be captured in exclusively quantitative terms, reified this abstraction, and called that reified abstraction matter, or the physical, or that which is objective. Second, they abstracted those qualitative features that would not fit the first, quantitative picture, reified that abstraction, and called it the mental, or that which is subjective. Once this move was made, there was never in principle going to be a way to get mind and matter together again, since they were in effect defined by contrast with one another.
[FairfieldLife] TED Talk on planned grazing the reversal of climate change
Allan Savory shows with photos of actual and dramatic results that desertification can be reversed which will in turn remove carbon from the atmosphere to PRE INDUSTRIAL levels! One of the most inspiring TED Talks I've ever seen. http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html
[FairfieldLife] Birth Chart of Kim Jong Un
To All: The chart shows that his father was infamous, due to the conjunction of Mars and Saturn in the 11th bhava from the Sun. This also indicates that he will follow his father's footsteps in becoming an infamous tyrant. His friends are the infamous military generals who supported his father's hold into political power. However, he has several atmakaraka doshas that may affect his physical and mental health. The Sun is his atmakaraka and the planets in the 6th and 12th houses from the AK are the doshas. Specifically, 1. Rahu is placed in the navamsa of Cancer. This indicates he will have trouble with watery diseases and hydrophobia. 2. Venus is placed in the navamsa of Scorpio. This indicates that he will have troubles with watery diseases, reptiles and snakes. 3. Ketu is placed in the navamsa of Capricorn indicating troubles with spirits and psychic disorders. Further, the current transits of Saturn and Rahu in Libra are obviously causing troubles for him. The transits may disturb his relationship with his military generals, indicating a possible collapse of his regime. And, on the personal basis, it may affect the health of his first child if his wife is pregnant at this time. These are a few of the things I've noticed in the chart. Regards, JR --- In marital_astrol...@yahoogroups.com, kaalithas kaalithas@... wrote: || Om Namo Narayana || Name : Kim - Jong - Un DOB : 8-January, 1984 . Doubtful Time : 7 : 55 AM. Place of birth : Pyongyang Lagnam : Around 23 Sagitarius . Present Job : threatening United States .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Robin, I enjoyed both your assessment of Barry's persona earlier on here, and your response to Curtis below. Sane, comprehensive, honest, clear, brilliantly written, deconstructed perfectly, mental molecular gastronomy. :-) It was a very enjoyable process to follow and validate each turn of your mind as you witnessed it. Alive and real. I couldn't agree more (albeit not as eloquently). I can't say I blame Barry's and Curtis's fans for finding Robin's analyses of their heroes...uh...distressing. They were devastatingly accurate. I would have been deeply impressed by Robin's insights even if I had begun lurking on FFL right after Robin left at Christmas, having no idea who he, Curtis, or Barry were, but following the posts of the latter two. As I read the posts from last week, it was disturbing to see the increasing degree of corruption in the posts of several of the most vocal participants here, primarily Barry, Curtis, and navashok. The more they're able to get away with, the more they assume they *can* get away with, so the corruption is progressive. What's equally distressing is that most here *let* them get away with it, either because they don't care, or because they simply aren't perceptive enough to notice. (Corruption = impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Teach meditation to 40 formerly incarcerated youth
But that's not all - with your basic TM initiation fee, you receive an endless stream of entreaties to give, give, give more and more and more money to the TM Movement, always, of course, for the best and highest good of the world. In addition, if you call your nearest TM Peace Palace in the next 15 minutes you will also receive the opportunity to buy, at exorbitant prices, a vast array of ridiculous smoke and mirrors, snake oil and nostrums that will never lead to enlightenment, perfect health or a sublime life. You must be on their 'Chump List', Michael. I get a harder sell, for hair products, after a haircut, than I do from the TM folks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You are right Nappy, you do get what you pay for - when you pay for TM, you get a meditation technique backed up by 58 years of fraud, deceit and a manipulative guru. But that's not all - with your basic TM initiation fee, you receive an endless stream of entreaties to give, give, give more and more and more money to the TM Movement, always, of course, for the best and highest good of the world. In addition, if you call your nearest TM Peace Palace in the next 15 minutes you will also receive the opportunity to buy, at exorbitant prices, a vast array of ridiculous smoke and mirrors, snake oil and nostrums that will never lead to enlightenment, perfect health or a sublime life. Your TM initiation also entitles you to pay big money to learn a set of techniques that purport to give you super-normal abilities, yet have no actual demonstrable effects - originally they were taught as the fast track to enlightenment, being 10,000 times more powerful than TM alone, and will lead to even more absurd promises whose actual fulfillment have very little effect other than to separate you from your money and your good common sense. Best of all, if you mention David Lynch's name when you get your TM mantra, you will have the opportunity to lose a great deal more money by having a Marshy approved home designer design a new and totally unnecessary home for you that will cost a lot of money and face east. One additional perk of learning TM is the satisfaction of immersing yourself in a fear based ideology - if you don't participate in group program, you will be responsible for not preventing any number of natural and man made disasters, if you enter or exit any building with a south facing entrance you will suffer mightily, if you expose yourself to a solar eclipse, you will surely experience bad karma and on and on. All of these things are proof positive that TM is by far the very best meditation technique for creating problems in life and screwing up peoples minds. You can tell its the best by the price tag, and after all don't you WANT to contribute to Girish's legal defense fund? Even tho he is a wealthy man, of course Hagelin and the boys are gonna raise money to pay his legal defense - the TM Movement and its pimps ALWAYS get TM True Believes to pay the freight, rather than paying for stuff themselves. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 3:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Teach meditation to 40 formerly incarcerated youth  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I think they're excuses, made by people who, if they were being honest, cannot find any way to justify to *themselves* the unconscionably high prices that the TMO charges for TM, but feel the need to make such justifications to others. The high prices are a form of discrimination. Only the wealthy or well-to-do (or those who have some organization willing to pay the fee *for* them) get to learn TM. The rest can go suck eggs. This is the TM version of compassion. DrD's comment above is a proper answer to your endless nonsense. He wrote: You get what you pay for. That is why most people have never heard of these two meditation programs - No one with any name recognition has found them to be successful, so rather than generating interest, or even controversy, these two marginal techniques are relegated to the backwaters of spiritual concern. Perhaps you can amuse yourself by finding all the other free and useless forms of meditation available around the globe, and then please share them with us. That is, when you aren't sticking your finger someplace warm and stinky.:-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Company Offers One Way Trip to Mars
You're that eager to get rid of me cause you know I'm right. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Company Offers One Way Trip to Mars I'll sponsor MJ for a trip. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Any takers here on FFL? http://gma.yahoo.com/company-offers-one-way-trip-mars-191306571--abc-news-topstories.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Men only,
Hi, yeah I found Robin's analysis really helpful. As for integrity or lack thereof, all of us have to mature to a point where we see the long term usefulness of integrity. Both recognizing our identity in full, so that we actually know what personal integrity feels like, and maturing somewhat, so that immediate gratification is tempered with self-knowledge, make integrity a value in life. If on the other hand, one is unsure of oneself, emotionally immature, and seeking instant gratification, then integrity is just a definition in a dictionary. So as far as a corruption of one's integrity, that can only occur if integrity is recognized as a value. Everyone pretends to have it, because it is socially acceptable. However, there are a lot of boys running around in men's clothing these days, and to them, everything is merely kid's play. That is why they act, and get treated, like children. Emotional blindness caused by ego tripping. Thy 'Emperor' has no clothes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Robin, I enjoyed both your assessment of Barry's persona earlier on here, and your response to Curtis below. Sane, comprehensive, honest, clear, brilliantly written, deconstructed perfectly, mental molecular gastronomy. :-) It was a very enjoyable process to follow and validate each turn of your mind as you witnessed it. Alive and real. I couldn't agree more (albeit not as eloquently). I can't say I blame Barry's and Curtis's fans for finding Robin's analyses of their heroes...uh...distressing. They were devastatingly accurate. I would have been deeply impressed by Robin's insights even if I had begun lurking on FFL right after Robin left at Christmas, having no idea who he, Curtis, or Barry were, but following the posts of the latter two. As I read the posts from last week, it was disturbing to see the increasing degree of corruption in the posts of several of the most vocal participants here, primarily Barry, Curtis, and navashok. The more they're able to get away with, the more they assume they *can* get away with, so the corruption is progressive. What's equally distressing is that most here *let* them get away with it, either because they don't care, or because they simply aren't perceptive enough to notice. (Corruption = impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Company Offers One Way Trip to Mars
Michael, please acquire a sense of humor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: You're that eager to get rid of me cause you know I'm right. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Company Offers One Way Trip to Mars  I'll sponsor MJ for a trip. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Any takers here on FFL? http://gma.yahoo.com/company-offers-one-way-trip-mars-191306571--abc-news-topstories.html
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
There is an easy way to discover your own enlightenment, and what it feels like, Michael. When you wake up tomorrow morning, before you have a chance to think about who you are, and what you believe in, begin your day, any way you like. All that you thought yesterday and last week, and last month, and last year, is again up for grabs - blank slate. Leave it there, and see if you can exist free of preconceptions. As my wife says, if you are standing at the edge of all the light you know, when you step into the darkness, either there will be something solid to stand on, or you will be taught how to fly. My approach is not quite as dramatic, but same principle -- Check it out. Rinse, and repeat. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Experiences like these are part of the reason I no longer believe enlightenment tied up in a neat package the way Marshy described it even exists - I think the old rishis in the ancient times were having all these self created opium dreams (brought on by inhaling too deeply of the forest floor molds) and made a complex system of ideas all about the experiences. I have read and heard too many accounts of people like Mark Landau and Robin who have what sound like truly fabulous experiences for months or years and then start just being regular people again, same with the Rama-man. I think that maybe we can all experience a plethora of states of awareness, alternating in flavor and intensity but who knows what the bottom line on all of it is? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? I believe that he definitely experienced what many over the centuries have described as enlightened states of mind. Like Curtis, I do not call these states of mind higher states of consciousness, feeling that altered states is both more accurate and less likely to be misunderstood and misrepresented. No one has *ever* been able to prove that these states are higher than any other, only that they are different than what the mainstream experiences. Meditating with Rama in the early years was an exper- ience unlike any other I have had in this lifetime. The silence emanating from the dude was so profound that if you were sitting in the same room with him, there was no question of wanting to still your mind or stop thoughts. You couldn't *have* a thought. That said, I personally believe that two things fucked up the inner silence/seeming enlightenment he emanated in the early days of his teaching. The first was hubris: starting to believe his own PR, and allowing his already- sizable ego to grow out of control. The second was Valium. Towards the end he almost never meditated, and my belief is that the reason why is that he knew that those of us who had meditated with him years ago would notice the difference, and that he could no longer access -- much less radiate -- those deep levels of silent mind. Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? I have a three-day weekend, as does most of Europe. I'm back in the Netherlands, and they're off Monday as well. France still has a lot of Catholics, but on the whole they're a remarkably secular society, as is Spain and the Netherlands. That does *not* keep them from taking advantage of every religious holiday that comes around as a day off of work. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 23-Mar-13 00:15:02 UTC
I would say it's generally a weighted report, Mikey. Probably 8 to 1, if I had to assign a value. Things that don't fit your agenda assigned a low number. Things that fit your agenda, an abnormally high number. No biggie really, but if your objective is to have credibility, then one find your opinions lacking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: As usual Stevie, you are wrong - I do not denigrate all things TMO - the TMO has denigrated itself for nearly 60 years - I merely report. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 23-Mar-13 00:15:02 UTC  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: snip Weren't things like these attributed to support of nature? And I think you mean does it not 'indicate' the existence of a higher power. It necessitates the existence if we want them to be reinstated, given a reprieve, allowed to go over the limit once in a while and be pardoned. I, for one, wish both could post this week. Ann, I think I could do a better job of more clearly making my points. But, having said that. no, necessitateis the right word. (-: Here Judy got so carried away with this petty accusation, that she up and overposted herself.  That is what I call instant karma.  And if you believe in karma, then I think a higher power can't be far behind.  I often like Judy's points, but this gloating  thing, with its subsequent posts, seemed so off base, that I felt it was poetic justice that things worked out the way they did. And I can't help feel the same about Michael with his tireless campaign to denigrate all things TMO.     But since that isn't likely Steve, you better be extra entertaining, interesting, brilliant and funny to make up for the absence of both MJ and Authfriend. Agreed? Ann, you have my word as a former cub scout, that I will do my best to FFL and my country to be entertaining, and brilliant and funny, so help me higher power. (-: But, just in case, can you ask Ravi to help out with the brilliant part. And any help with the funny part, I can leave with you.Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Yea, I finally got a chance to reread it as well, and I think it was an easy mistake to make on my part. Thanks for the acknowledgement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Rereading my original post I can see how you would think I was referring to Girish - but I was referring to Marshy From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add).  I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountââ¬the girl child. For burden she isââ¬practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existââ¬must be familiar with the idea that a girl is ââ¬Åparaya dhan,ââ¬ï¿½Ã¢â¬the treasure of anotherââ¬â¢s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her ââ¬Åtrueââ¬ï¿½ family. The word ââ¬Åtreasureââ¬ï¿½ should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groomââ¬â¢s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
My .02. When the whole Lenz things came up on FFL sometime ago, I read an interview by the Fredster, and yes, I was quite blown away. I believe it was at the beginning of his time, when things were untainted. I then read an interview done several years later, and the shine was off the feeling I had of his enlightenment, but the core of enlightenment was still there. I guess it might be likened to sterling silver that is polished or tarnished. The silver content is still there, but brilliance was off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried to quit taking Valium cold turkey. Three days later he was dead, a suicide. Were you still involved when that happened? No, I had left a couple of years earlier, when the focus of what it was like to study with him shifted away from meditation and things that most (including me) considered spiritual, and began to focus on mainly business and career success. Besides, it had stopped being fun, so I split. Never regretted it.
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Experiences like these are part of the reason I no longer believe enlightenment tied up in a neat package the way Marshy described it even exists - I think the old rishis in the ancient times were having all these self created opium dreams (brought on by inhaling too deeply of the forest floor molds) and made a complex system of ideas all about the experiences. Having read some of the Vedic literature such as the Yoga Vashishta, I really couldn't disagree more. I mean it's a cute little slight you make, but I suspect that over time, what once inspired you, (or me) becomes more distant and more dim. I don't know what would happen if I read some of the books now. But having immersed myself in the Upanishads, the Gita, and various other tracts in my earlier days, I believe they contain profound truths, and insights into higher levels of awareness, (enlightenment), as well as a greater understanding of practical matters regarding breath, bodily functions, and sexual energy. Simply the whole science of kundalini, (if one wants to call it a science) is something completely ignored by western science. As is the field of prana. Maybe these tracts will have nothing to offer in this regard. I suspect that will not be the case. I have read and heard too many accounts of people like Mark Landau and Robin who have what sound like truly fabulous experiences for months or years and then start just being regular people again, same with the Rama-man. I think that maybe we can all experience a plethora of states of awareness, alternating in flavor and intensity but who knows what the bottom line on all of it is? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? I believe that he definitely experienced what many over the centuries have described as enlightened states of mind. Like Curtis, I do not call these states of mind higher states of consciousness, feeling that altered states is both more accurate and less likely to be misunderstood and misrepresented. No one has *ever* been able to prove that these states are higher than any other, only that they are different than what the mainstream experiences. Meditating with Rama in the early years was an exper- ience unlike any other I have had in this lifetime. The silence emanating from the dude was so profound that if you were sitting in the same room with him, there was no question of wanting to still your mind or stop thoughts. You couldn't *have* a thought. That said, I personally believe that two things fucked up the inner silence/seeming enlightenment he emanated in the early days of his teaching. The first was hubris: starting to believe his own PR, and allowing his already- sizable ego to grow out of control. The second was Valium. Towards the end he almost never meditated, and my belief is that the reason why is that he knew that those of us who had meditated with him years ago would notice the difference, and that he could no longer access -- much less radiate -- those deep levels of silent mind. Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? I have a three-day weekend, as does most of Europe. I'm back in the Netherlands, and they're off Monday as well. France still has a lot of Catholics, but on the whole they're a remarkably secular society, as is Spain and the Netherlands. That does *not* keep them from taking advantage of every religious holiday that comes around as a day off of work. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Barry
Saw Gatekeepers last weekend. Found it riveting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Didja ever see Watchmen? If so what did you think of it? To be honest, I was underwhelmed, and don't remember enough about it to remember why. It was billed as the movie version of the best graphic novel ever, but because I've never really been a graphic novel fan, that didn't do much for me. This is not to say that I might not have enjoyed it at the time, only that it left no lasting impression whatsoever, like the olde story about eating Chinese food and being hungry again an hour later.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
Steve, thank you for your insight. It helps me to understand a little more. And your idea that the core of enlightenment was still there, very intriguing. I mean, even just the idea that enlightenment has a core. Did you read what turq wrote about all this? He has written of hubris and I'm still grappling with that one. I'd be interested in your thoughts on that. Since I read what turq wrote and even what Judy wrote today about Robin, I've been wondering why genuine enlightenment doesn't have a built in protection against hubris. I know my life certainly has that: maybe a friend gets upset with me or IRS says I owe them money or I wake up one morning with vertigo. Presto, any hubris that was creeping in is gone and I'm once again clearly part of flawed humanity. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq) My .02. When the whole Lenz things came up on FFL sometime ago, I read an interview by the Fredster, and yes, I was quite blown away. I believe it was at the beginning of his time, when things were untainted. I then read an interview done several years later, and the shine was off the feeling I had of his enlightenment, but the core of enlightenment was still there. I guess it might be likened to sterling silver that is polished or tarnished. The silver content is still there, but brilliance was off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Do you think Lenz was unenlightened and became unenlightened? Or what? Is France still Catholic enough that you all are having a 4 day weekend? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Why do you think he [Rama - Fred Lenz] did himself in? He *claimed* to some who were close to him that he was dying of some undiagnosed and undiagnosable illness, and that he just didn't want to waste away in some ghastly hospital. I, however, got ahold of the coroner's autopsy report, and there was no trace of serious disease. My theory of The Big Why is very simple, and meshes well with what people who were close to him said: drugs. He'd gotten himself addicted to Valium, first prescribed after an injury, but he liked the effects of it so much that it had begun to affect both his behavior and his judgment. On the Valium label it says in big, bold letters, If you have been taking this drug for some time, do NOT try to stop suddenly. If you do, you risk side effects including depression, psychotic symptoms, and suicide. So what did Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried to quit taking Valium cold turkey. Three days later he was dead, a suicide. Were you still involved when that happened? No, I had left a couple of years earlier, when the focus of what it was like to study with him shifted away from meditation and things that most (including me) considered spiritual, and began to focus on mainly business and career success. Besides, it had stopped being fun, so I split. Never regretted it.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Sun 31-Mar-13 00:15:02 UTC
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Sends B2 Bombers to South Korea
Absolutely! And give him ALL negotiating authority! From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US Sends B2 Bombers to South Korea IMO, Obama should send Dennis Rodman back to North Korea as an unofficial diplomat to ease the tensions. Rodman may be able to save the world from a nuclear war. It sounds funny but Rodman may have found himself a new gig for the time being. --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: He (Kim Jong Un) will posture up against the US and the world vocally, and at worst will instigate a minor attack against S. Korea and call it an accident. North Korea only shows enough courage to impress their own imprisoned people of their power. It's no different than a drunk thug at a bar. He'll posture up just enough to intimidate anyone who is weak or afraid, but the moment someone walks up to him with any significant fighting experience, he'll shut up and back down. seekliberation --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Obama shows the US military might to North Korea. What will Kim-Jong-Un do to up the ante? http://news.yahoo.com/us-sends-b-2s-south-korea-military-drills-121203496.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Christ Resurrected
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg (in the air version) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@ wrote: by Rembrandt: http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/1/924.jpg The implication is awesome, and the last enemy to be overcome is death 1 Corinthians 15:26 . Jesus resurrected his *physical* body 3 days (periods; physical, astral, causal) after death, his supreme sacrifice of love in the face of hate and prosecution is truly inspiring, (an example for us to follow), Forgive them Father, for, they know not what they do. Source-The Second Coming of Christ, Paramahansa Yogananda. What a great miracle, and the disciples testified to meeting him again IN THE FLESH. Read Autobiography of a Yogi to hear other miracles of the great masters of the past. Enlightened being have the freedom to choose to Reincarnate or not as pleases the Divine Lord of Creation, they are called Avatars.
[FairfieldLife] 20 year hiatus in rising temperatures,climate scientists puzzled-Rick
Are YOU Rick, a climate change denier? (How horrible if you were, scary, to even be accused as one, wow!) Note, last interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump. Climate change The fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted. Picture: Ray Strange Source: The Australian DEBATE about the reality of a two-decade pause in global warming and what it means has made its way from the sceptical fringe to the mainstream. In a lengthy article this week, The Economist magazine said if climate scientists were credit-rating agencies, then climate sensitivity - the way climate reacts to changes in carbon-dioxide levels - would be on negative watch but not yet downgraded. Another paper published by leading climate scientist James Hansen, the head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, says the lower than expected temperature rise between 2000 and the present could be explained by increased emissions from burning coal. For Hansen the pause is a fact, but it's good news that probably won't last. International Panel on Climate Change chairman Rajendra Pachauri recently told The Weekend Australian the hiatus would have to last 30 to 40 years at least to break the long-term warming trend. Digital Pass $1 for first 28 Days But the fact that global surface temperatures have not followed the expected global warming pattern is now widely accepted. Research by Ed Hawkins of University of Reading shows surface temperatures since 2005 are already at the low end of the range projections derived from 20 climate models and if they remain flat, they will fall outside the models' range within a few years. The global temperature standstill shows that climate models are diverging from observations, says David Whitehouse of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. If we have not passed it already, we are on the threshold of global observations becoming incompatible with the consensus theory of climate change, he says. Whitehouse argues that whatever has happened to make temperatures remain constant requires an explanation because the pause in temperature rise has occurred despite a sharp increase in global carbon emissions. The Economist says the world has added roughly 100 billion tonnes of carbon to the atmosphere between 2000 and 2010, about one-quarter of all the carbon dioxide put there by humans since 1750. This mismatch between rising greenhouse gas emissions and not-rising temperatures is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now, The Economist article says. But it does not mean global warming is a delusion. The fact is temperatures between 2000 and 2010 are still almost 1C above their level in the first decade of the 20th century. The mismatch might mean that for some unexplained reason there has been a temporary lag between more carbon dioxide and higher temperatures in 2000-2010. Or it might mean that the 1990s, when temperatures were rising fast, was the anomalous period. The magazine explores a range of possible explanations including higher emissions of sulphur dioxide, the little understood impact of clouds and the circulation of heat into the deep ocean. But it also points to an increasing body of research that suggests it may be that climate is responding to higher concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide in ways that had not been properly understood before. This possibility, if true, could have profound significance both for climate science and for environmental and social policy, the article says. There are now a number of studies that predict future temperature rises as a result of man-made carbon dioxide emissions at well below the IPCC best estimate of about 3C over the century. The upcoming IPCC report is expected to lift the maximum possible temperature increase to 6C. The Research Council of Norway says in a non-peer-reviewed paper that the best estimate concludes there is a 90 per cent probability that doubling CO2 emissions will increase temperatures by only 1.2C to 2.9C, the most likely figure being 1.9C. Another study based on the way the climate behaved about 20,000 years ago has given a best guess of 2.3C.
[FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)
Hi Share, Thanks for your comments. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, thank you for your insight. It helps me to understand a little more. And your idea that the core of enlightenment was still there, very intriguing. Well, my understanding has always been that enlightenment is something permanent. Exception being perhaps the Strange Case of RWC May have to put an asterisk on my understanding of the big E there. I mean, even just the idea that enlightenment has a core. Did you read what turq wrote about all this? He has written of hubris and I'm still grappling with that one. One feature of my personality, which I would call a flaw is that often my initial impression of something is often overly positive or enthusiastic. Having said that, as I mentioned before, I found myself very impressed with Fred Lenz's interviews. I thought he presented ideas of spiritual growth and enlightnment in clearer terms than I had ever heard before. It is a pretty popular thing here to ridicule Fred, and many of Barry's recollections. I really have nothing on which to base much of an opinion about Lenz, other than the little I've read about him. On the other hand, there seems to be plenty on instances of the so called enlightened, backsliding in some ways. Maybe the temptation of riches, power and sexual opportunties are just too much to resist. I likely would have difficulty with all three if I found myself in such a position. But I think I still maintain that core enlightenment remains. It's just that it can get pretty dirty, and unseemly. I'd be interested in your thoughts on that. Since I read what turq wrote and even what Judy wrote today about Robin, I've been wondering why genuine enlightenment doesn't have a built in protection against hubris. But I'd like to think that I could avoid this pitfall. Ego, or at least the negative attributes of ego is something of which I try to stay keenly aware. It has caused me so many problems that I'm careful not to give it any fuel. The negative attributes of ego, that is. I know my life certainly has that: maybe a friend gets upset with me or IRS says I owe them money or I wake up one morning with vertigo. Presto, any hubris that was creeping in is gone and I'm once again clearly part of flawed humanity. How is your vertigo? So nice to talk to you.(-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
Meditate,Worship the Unified Field. Seek beauty; Give service, Knowledge pursue. Be trustworthy ever, in all that you do. Hold fast onto health, And your work glorify, And you will be happy, in the law of the Unified Field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Yea, I finally got a chance to reread it as well, and I think it was an easy mistake to make on my part. Thanks for the acknowledgement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Rereading my original post I can see how you would think I was referring to Girish - but I was referring to Marshy From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 10:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment  Bravo Michael! I was wondering when you'd get up to speed. Now let me make sure I have it straight. Bevan and the rest had to know what Girish was up to, and they aided and abetted all his alleged activities. You are speaking of this as though you have first hand knowledge of this. An is it okay for me to use the word alleged, or is that just some old fashioned western concept. And, would it be a bit of fallacy to declare that Maharishi was a typical male Hindu and therefore misogynisitic and therefore declare that he embraces all attributes you have in quotes, (without a clickable link I might add).  I cannot take issue with the fact that there are no woman in positions of authority in the TMO. I think that would be well to be remedied if the movement can survive, but to take that fact and therefore draw the conclusions you make I think is unwarranted, and a stretch. But let's be real. That is your usual method of operation. And may I anticipate your retort. To seventhray and all those who are in deep denial about the real TMO, there is little hope you can climb out of you naive perceptions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I think you are looking through gold tinted glasses - Bevan and all the rest who were close to Marshy had to know what he was up to, they condoned and abetted his womanizing, lying and defrauding people financially, so in that sense they are good custodians of his legacy - they Girish is a Marshy student who learned the tricks of a fake master at his uncle's knee - its is just more of the same behavior - nothing else. There never have been and never will be women in positions of power in the TM Movement because Marshy was a misogynistic man with fairly typical male Hindu views of women (kitchen and bedroom), but don't believe me, let's see what some Indian women have to say on the matter: For Indians, girls are a burden; the desire for male progeny is as natural to us as breathing. We utter prayers, make vows, observe fasts, bow before this or that divinity all for the cherished, penis-laden offspring, all so that we may not remain childless or burdened with the debit side of the accountââ¬the girl child. For burden she isââ¬practically every Indian, in almost every single region of India, barring a few areas where matrilineal systems existââ¬must be familiar with the idea that a girl is ââ¬Åparaya dhan,ââ¬ï¿½Ã¢â¬the treasure of anotherââ¬â¢s home. Exiled at birth, she already belongs to her in-laws, who are her ââ¬Åtrueââ¬ï¿½ family. The word ââ¬Åtreasureââ¬ï¿½ should not fool us. We are commodities, chattel, goods. Why else would we have to pay a groomââ¬â¢s family for the favor of taking the girl child off our sinful hands? from this page: http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/8529 Sons are taught that they are a blessing to be cherished and that women are there to serve them however they please. This is only echoed in Bollywood films, which are regrettably romanticized by the west, in which male protagonists depict their sexual prowess by sexually harassing the principal female character into submission. In the world of Indian melodramas, a no will inevitably turn to a yes after a few song and dance routines in the rain, of course. Women have no ally in the legislature either, as every major political party has candidates that have been charged with crimes against women, ranging from domestic abuse to rape. Additionally, Indian jurisprudence sanctions a virginity test to determine the credibility of the victim's statement. In the test, a doctor inserts two fingers into the woman's vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the general laxity of the vagina, and presumably, the victim herself. From the page: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/30/world/asia/misogyny-india From: Susan wayback71@ To:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy
Love it Ann. Hey, he dances like me! From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy This is what I am all about. This music, this video, this guy dancing is all exactly who I am, what I love, how I'm going out in this world at the end of it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8
Re: [FairfieldLife] Europe Freezes, But Help Is At Hand
Ha. Very nice. We are the world. From: PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Europe Freezes, But Help Is At Hand http://youtu.be/oJLqyuxm96k
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Love it Ann.  Hey, he dances like me!  Yes, this video is pure genius. This is how I dance when I feel joy and I want to be a little goofy and it is all about rejoicing in the music and fooling around with dance moves and your body. I love the lowbrow setting with this 'regular' guy dancing away, not being cool, not wearing some skimpy outfit just diggin' the beat under fluorescent lights at a cheap motel. I guess Rama and his well heeled followers wouldn't be seen having that kind of freedom in a dive joint like that. Only 5 Star for them! But look at the fun they missed. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 2:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Happy  This is what I am all about. This music, this video, this guy dancing is all exactly who I am, what I love, how I'm going out in this world at the end of it all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_426RiwST8
