[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > My roommate during my last year with the TM organization > > was an airbrush artist who did costumes for Doug Henni

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is playing > > head games with the readers of your posts in order to fe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" [...] > As a general statement, I agree with that. I do not agree, however, with your other > assertions regarding my definitions of "purity of the teaching". It was you, on the other > hand, who incorrectly assumed that "purity of the teachi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" [...] > As a general statement, I agree with that. I do not agree, however, with your other > assertions regarding my definitions of "purity of the teaching". It was you, on the other > hand, who incorrectly assumed that "purity of the teachi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > [...] > > > > > You're complaining about oral traditi

[FairfieldLife] Re: We're today's SRF

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember when I started TM back in '73 there was talk about > Yogananda's organisation called the Self-Realization Fellowship. Most > people I knew had read his book and thought of him fondly as a > result. Hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > > > You're complaining about oral traditions and their preservation > > and > > > > about the lousy job of this that the TMO ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The beauty of this teaching, as I understood it when I became a > teacher, was that it was > > not necessary for anyone to obse

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book & L B book on Dev Go for it L.B.

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How l.B, would funding now facilitate others if they are busy with other > responbilities? .. what dollar funding is now required in dollars ? How would this speed there actins or yours? Is it in there hands or yours or both?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to keep > > > people going when their experience changes. Takes empa

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > My roommate during my last year with the TM organization > was an airbrush artist who did costumes for Doug Henning. > So Doug would come over to the house a lot and would > show us some close-up magic. I know he

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rory, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on these > phenomena if you care to share them. Many of us have had these > experiences which are experienced as real, yet not quite physical. > You've spoken bef

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [...] > > > > > > That's the element I would see as the next stage

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sat Yuga Drum Set

2005-07-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen < snip > On my Governor trainning we were told to underline > phrases in the 9th and 10th mandala that innocently > correlated with our experiences. Bevan (pre-famous) > was telling us to do this. Some wit asked Bevan what > we should do once w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] > Good one! I've always wondered why so many spiritual > movements give such power to the penis and vagina. > They don't bite, do they? To be in bondage to the > genitals is such a strange thing! > Let me tell you the old Native American

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fuck Rama, put it to sleep. > I still say something good could come about from you examining this aversion you have to Rama, other than "I know people that got side tracked following this guy" lurk To subscribe,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip > > Yes, eye witness accounts abound, but there also a > general pattern is found: the witnesses > are not unanimous about what they saw. Examples that > come to mind include the Fatima > manifestations, the appearance of the angel Moroni > to

[FairfieldLife] Patanjali's criteria for levitation

2005-07-23 Thread Vaj
What *were* Patanjali's criteria for levitation? Are they all met within the TMSP, and therefore should we expect more than "bhuchari siddhi" (hopping)? Well, Patanjali gives at least TWO formulae for achieving levitation: 1) YS III:39 Through mastery of udaana-prana, non-adhesion to water, mu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book & L B book on Dev Go for it L.B.

2005-07-23 Thread WLeed3
How l.B, would funding now facilitate others if they are busy with other responbilities? .. what dollar funding is now required in dollars ? How would this speed there actins or yours? Is it in there hands or yours or both?    ... We seem to be on a more than several years. quest for funds , Dol

[FairfieldLife] We're today's SRF

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
I remember when I started TM back in '73 there was talk about Yogananda's organisation called the Self-Realization Fellowship. Most people I knew had read his book and thought of him fondly as a result. His organisation, however, seemed to be of the past, one that had seen its best days and a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The beauty of this teaching, as I understood it when I became a teacher, was that it was > not necessary for anyone to obsess about what constitutes optimal conditions for practice. > Those things had been worked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Vaj
On Jul 23, 2005, at 11:16 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > I'll bet a dollar that Judy and Barry were monks in a past life, > having very similar arguments. I've been seeing that image all day > long particularly when I read Judy's stuff. Buddhist monks in the > East. As Buddha Shakyamuni said--'if you

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's entirely possible he can be a decent, genuine > > human being in person. > > Jim's right; I think you both are truly great -- as i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It was common knowledge among students that mana

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And still another part of it is past history (on > > alt.m.t, where Shemp has been a participant), in > > which Barry routinely suggests that TMers are > > ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2nd Day of Sat Yuga? Bollywood's Good Girls Learn to Be Bad

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/movies/24chop.html?8hpib > > > Excerpts > > > Bollywood's Good Girls Learn to Be Bad > By ANUPAMA CHOPRA NY Times > We are witnessing (no pun intended) the further integration of In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book & L B book on Dev Go for it L.B.

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where does it now stand L.B. ... its so important perhaps should be passed > top otheres for speed... Its so very important for us all to soon very soon see .! Give us an up date please. Right now all the people whos

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is playing > > head games with the readers of your posts in order to

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
Nicely done, Akasha. You have demonstrated once again that there's nothing like a shot of dispassionate discourse to take some of the vinegar out of a pissing contest. Allow me to add a few thoughts of my own. One of the persistent problems with "miracles", as gleefully noted by professional s

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Haiku (was Jewish Haiku)

2005-07-23 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > old man's portrait hangs > > in empty domes and centers > > no laughter, no light > > Cute, but none of these have a kijo (season word)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > [...] > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I feel that the "purity of the teaching" as

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Couldn't the a.m.t. folks give themselves p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome > > diminished enthusiasm for attendance. Your argume

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We all have to download the output of these caterwailing > foxes, sitting on garden walls screaming at eachother. 1. If you read FFL in the archives, you can select which messages to download. So, no, *we* do not all

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And still another part of it is past history (on > > alt.m.t, where Shemp has been a participant), in > > which Barry routinely suggests that TMers are > > experientially

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Couldn't the a.m.t. folks give themselves permission to not act the > > same way they were acting over at a.m.t.? > > Speaking for

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > ...or get given a yellow card. We all have to download the > > output of these caterwailing foxes, sitting on garden walls > > scr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Llundrub
I never liked any of those groups because I thoughtthe music sucked.  :-)  That's the way I felt bout thegroup you mentioned, too, when I heard their stuffon the radio.  Finding out what they were like in real life just cemented  the deal for me. Why do you post phoney smilies? To

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And still another part of it is past history (on > alt.m.t, where Shemp has been a participant), in > which Barry routinely suggests that TMers are > experientially impoverished compared to himself-- > including demanding that they relate their > exp

[FairfieldLife] 2nd Day of Sat Yuga? Bollywood's Good Girls Learn to Be Bad

2005-07-23 Thread akasha_108
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/24/movies/24chop.html?8hpib Excerpts Bollywood's Good Girls Learn to Be Bad By ANUPAMA CHOPRA NY Times MUMBAI HALFWAY through "Aitraaz" ("Objection"), a Bollywood take on Barry Levinson's "Disclosure," Sonia grabs hold of Raj. Once upon a time, they were lovers.

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I second that. I am leaving this group because there is so much > stupid threads going on and on and on about nothing. > Get a fvcking job guys. Go help old ladies, travel the world. Get a > life. Have a good o

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's entirely possible he can be a decent, genuine > human being in person. Jim's right; I think you both are truly great -- as is Jim himself! Let's raise a glass to all three of you -- if not tonight in a cafe in P

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is playing > head games with the readers of your posts in order to feed your ego: > Look at me, I've experienced the ultimate cool spiritual "power" and >

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Vaj
On Jul 22, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote: > A while back, I spoke to a woman in Fairfield, who claimed she was > having a more advanced levitation experience; I wished I had asked her > for more details at the time... > I am wondering if anyone could share experiences which would qualify

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...or get given a yellow card. We all have to download the > output of these caterwailing foxes, sitting on garden walls > screaming at eachother. Just one other point: It's not exactly as if there weren't a health

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its this clinging to ones own view of what the word "real" means, > and not seeing or acknowledging what the other may mean by the > term, which is causing the war of words and abrasive feelings back > and forth. Tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Couldn't the a.m.t. folks give themselves permission to not act the > same way they were acting over at a.m.t.? Speaking for myself: Why should behavior that I find objectionable on alt.m.t be somehow immune to compla

[FairfieldLife] Tantra and the Siddhas

2005-07-23 Thread Vaj
In brief on-list response to the topic of Tantra, I've uploaded the wonderful intro. to _Masters of Enchantment_: the biographies and sadhanas of the 84 Mahasiddhas of Tibetan and Hindu tantra. It's intro. is one of the best I have read. It also includes the artists (Robert Beer) intro which br

[FairfieldLife] Maybe of Interest - Ireland Peace Palace

2005-07-23 Thread scienceofabundance
Some comments and details of building a peace palace on an island off the coast of Ireland: http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=69927&results_offset=210 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This G

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having been around these newsgroups for years now I am sorry to see > the a.m.t. spillover to FFlife-not the people themselves, but the > nitpicking of nitpicking. Not that FFLife wasn't in need of some new > blood! > We

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book & L B book on Dev Go for it L.B.

2005-07-23 Thread WLeed3
 Where does it now stand L.B.   ... its so important perhaps should be passed top otheres for speed... Its so very important for us all to soon very soon see .! Give us an up date please. -Original Message-From: L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSent: Sat, 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having been around these newsgroups for years now I am sorry to see > the a.m.t. spillover to FFlife-not the people themselves, but the > nitpicking of nitpicking. Not that FFLife wasn't in need of some new > blood! >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > I've read through all these posts in this exchange and > I can't find a hint of this > "spiritual-one-upsmanship". What are you talking about > Shemp? Unc is talking about his experinece and then > considering the possibility that there was some

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > snip > > > > > I actually visited the site and downloaded the book. > > I then did a > > word search on "levitate" and nine references to it > > came up. > >

[FairfieldLife] a.m.t. spillover

2005-07-23 Thread anonymousff
Having been around these newsgroups for years now I am sorry to see the a.m.t. spillover to FFlife-not the people themselves, but the nitpicking of nitpicking. Not that FFLife wasn't in need of some new blood! We should invite Andrew Skolnick over and John Whats-his-name and that nasty nasty nasty

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > > > "Disbelief games"? > > I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head games > when you claim > to have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > I actually visited the site and downloaded the book. > I then did a > word search on "levitate" and nine references to it > came up. > > After a cursory reading of several of the > testimonials, I have > concluded that you were the victim

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appe

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear t

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is > > playing head games with the readers of your posts in order to f

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is > > playing head games with the readers of your posts in order to f

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Exactly. And why it is not productive to pursue

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course it doesn't. All you appear to be interested in is > playing head games with the readers of your posts in order to feed > your ego: Look at me, I've experienced the ultimate cool > spiritual "power" and

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > I can't prove my experience to you, just as you would > not be able to prove what you would consider a "real" > experience of levitation if it had happened to you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Welcome Sat Yuga

2005-07-23 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This morning I chatted with a TM teacher who > > attended the Guru Purnima events in Antrim, > > New Hampshire, USA, which was t

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > > > "Disbelief games"? > > I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head g

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> YOU are the one who is looking for "proof" that wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. > > I can't prove my experience to you, just as you would > not be able to prove what you would consider a "real" > experience of levitation if it had happened to you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Exactly. And why it is not productive to pursue this conversation. > > Shemp isn't interested in "proof." He's interested in making

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. "Disbelief games"? I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head games when you claim to have experienced "real" levitation and then, one post later, upon questio

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> YOU are the one who is looking for "proof" that wha

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> YOU are the one who is looking for "proof" that what I > > experienced was what you'd like to consider "real" > > levitation. I have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> YOU are the one who is looking for "proof" that what I > experienced was what you'd like to consider "real" > levitation. I have no such need. I experienced what > I experienced. I was more than honest about relating

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games. I can't prove my experience to you, just as you would not be able to prove what you would consider a "real" experience of levitation if it had happened to you. I get it...you don't want to believe this is true. There are a few websites out there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe L B would like to translate and publish it in the United States. Thanks for thinking of me, Pat, but I am not even remotely interested in such a project. I already have one unfinished translation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should > form an alternate > > organization, focused only on maintaini

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shemp

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant > > parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Yuga

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > We had a lot of hot weather in the north e

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > How big a desire is it? > > > I know what you're saying. Honestly I have never felt the actual desire to levitate. Not nearly as the desire to smoke a cig, or have a drink, so I guess that's about wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Sat Yuga Drum Set

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > You know, MMY loves to oversee all

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant > parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address. > > You wrote: > > > > > Did you experience it only once? > > > > Nope. Many tim

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant > parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address. > > You wrote: > > > > > Did you experience it only once? > > > > Nope. Many tim

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details of everything > > and he loves to micro-manage organisations...perhaps he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details of everything > and he loves to micro-manage organisations...perhaps he wouldn't be > able to pass up the opportunity to micro-manage an organisation that > Ex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingeger

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Levitation/has anyone heard of anyone reaching 2nd stage flying?

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
Unc, I am going to snip out what I believe to be the irrelevant parts of your response and leave in the parts I want to address. You wrote: > > Did you experience it only once? > > Nope. Many times. As did most of the other students who > studied with the guy. I will also emphasise, for th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book

2005-07-23 Thread Patrick Gillam
Maybe L B would like to translate and publish it in the United States. - PJG --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Ingegerd wrote: > > > > > > Conny Larssons book i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should > form an alternate > > organization, focused only on maintaini

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should form an alternate > organization, focused only on maintaining teaching standards. That is, it would be > concerned only with the instructional aspe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingeger

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conny Larrson's book

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ingegerd wrote: > > > > Conny Larssons book is for sale, telling what > > happens when men and women [are] gathered > > in the same place. I have not read the book. > > But it has send some waves of chock > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is the official price in Norway? G

[FairfieldLife] Re: Honest answers (was comments on Gable's editorial)

2005-07-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- jyouells2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

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