[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > greater > > killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in > the > > middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that > this > > was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As > > far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. > > The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to > topple > > major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If > you > > can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let > him > > continue to kill? > > > > JohnY > > > Dude, drink the Kool-aid! > > This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in > the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying > about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs. > > Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER > worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent > diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. > > Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the > political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it > has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden > on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure. > > Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece > of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, > when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done > to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as > justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this > occasionally to justify killing someone. > > There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as > radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now > finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- > something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at > least not in a unified way. > > Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further > justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals > using our warring as justification for their continued violent > response against us. > > And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is > seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance > of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only > culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure > and further suffering. Very stupid policy. > Jim, I just don't care to go down this road on FFL. Sorry I brought it up. JohnY I've been spitting out the Kool-Aid for years... Possibly ignorant, and in the waking state consciousness... :-) Unfathomable is the course of action -- BG. Arjuna, stand up and fight! -- Lord Krishna Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Reluctance: Re: [FairfieldLife] FOI Documents Reveal Military Will Pursue Internet As Enemy Territory
To control information is the best way of getting a society uniformed. Uniformation is the beginning of the end of life. It just destroys diversity, which is the basis of unity and vice versa. The "bad" is the regulating reflection and force of what is not good enough on the other end. It has no substance. With formation of a big TM group of 10,000 people, organized from the basis of all meditators without seeing a necessity for authorisation through MMy or his "ministers" and with least ideology, could lead to a liberating situation, where such "illuminative" forces would not have a real chance. This is my deepest conviction. It is fascinating to see how organized this new wave of fascism is trying to get hold of the world. Hagen - Original Message - From: "Dharma Mitra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] FOI Documents Reveal Military Will Pursue Internet As Enemy Territory > This message is available online at> http://www.WantToKnow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet> > > "From influencing public opinion through new media to designing> 'computer network attack' weapons, the US military is learning to fight> an electronic war. 'Strategy should be based on the premise that the> Department [of Defense] will 'fight the net' as it would an enemy> weapons system.' The document recommends that the United States should> seek the ability to 'provide maximum control of the entire> electromagnetic spectrum'. US forces should be able to 'disrupt or> destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems,> sensors, and weapons systems'."> -- BBC article describing U.S. plans to fight the Internet, 1/27/06> > February 3, 2006> Dear friends,> > The highly informative BBC article below describes disturbing plans by> the U.S. military to control the Internet. A U.S. military document> recently uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act reveals an> "Information Operations Roadmap" in which plans are being made based on> the premise that the military will view the Internet "as it would an> enemy weapons system." The document is signed by U.S. Secretary of> Defense Donald Rumsfeld. If you care about freedom of information on> the Internet, this is a vitally important article.> > A Google News search on the military's "Information Operations Roadmap"> reveals that, of major media in the US, only the Los Angeles Times,> Newsday, and ABC even mention the recently released "Information> Operations Roadmap," and none of these give much detail. Why is the> U.S. media so reluctant to report on these matters which are vital to> the preservation of freedom of speech guaranteed in the first amendment> of the U.S. constitution? If you care about preserving the free flow of> information over the Internet, please spread the news about this most> important BBC article. Together, we can and will build a brighter> future.> > With best wishes,> Fred Burks for the WantToKnow.info Team> Former language interpreter for Presidents Bush and Clinton> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4655196.stm> > US plans to 'fight the net' revealed> > By Adam Brookes> BBC Pentagon correspondent> > A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US> military's plans for "information operations" - from psychological> operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks.> > Bloggers beware.> > As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the military> opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies and the> modern media offer.> > From influencing public opinion through new media to designing> "computer network attack" weapons, the US military is learning to fight> an electronic war.> > The declassified document is called "Information Operations Roadmap".> It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington> University using the Freedom of Information Act.> > Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense,> Donald Rumsfeld, signed it.> > The "roadmap" calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's> ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare. And,> in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed forces> should think about this new, virtual warfare.> > The document says that information is "critical to military success".> Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational> importance.> > Propaganda> > The operations described in the document include a surprising range of> military activities: public affairs officers who brief journalists,> psychological operations troops who try to manipulate the thoughts and> beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack specialists who seek to> destroy enemy networks.> > All these are engaged in information operations.> > Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its acknowledgement> that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
Regardless of what I may think of the idea, the democratization of Iraq has been a very long-term neocon goal. You can read about it from nearly 10 years ago on the newamericancentury.org website. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > greater > > killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in > the > > middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that > this > > was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As > > far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. > > The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to > topple > > major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If > you > > can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let > him > > continue to kill? > > > > JohnY > > > Dude, drink the Kool-aid! > > This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in > the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying > about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs. > > Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER > worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent > diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. > > Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the > political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it > has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden > on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure. > > Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece > of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, > when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done > to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as > justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this > occasionally to justify killing someone. > > There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as > radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now > finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- > something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at > least not in a unified way. > > Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further > justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals > using our warring as justification for their continued violent > response against us. > > And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is > seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance > of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only > culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure > and further suffering. Very stupid policy. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 9:17 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:30 AM, feste37 wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to > >>> manufacture a > >>> big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here > >>> denounce > >>> the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread > >>> seriously > >>> discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the > >>> country of > >>> choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical > >>> thinking is being > >>> applied very unevenly. > >>> > >> > >> Well, when it was brought up many months ago it was just mentioned > >> casually by an observer. So take that as you wish. The positive > > thing > >> is it brings the man more down to earth, which is probably good for > > a > >> person who is essentially a business man. > >> > > > > ANd has claimed that he's a householder, not a recluse. > > You're referring to MMY? When did he make that claim? I once heard that he > told Jerry that had he realized, as he now did, that he would have gotten > enlightened whether or not he had gotten married, that he would have. But I > never heard him say he's a householder. I've heard him say many times that > he's a monk. > It was either on the SCI tapes or an advanced lecture tape. someone asked what he was, householder or recluse, and he said slowly, with evident surprise, that he must be a householder. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 7:25:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > Absolutely incredible. Yes, I'm glad you've now seen how ridiculous your position was. I thought it was pretty incredible myself. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 7:25:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > jstein@ writes: > > > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > Absolutely incredible. > > Not so incredible once you know the way this woman thinks. > > She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. who > voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats > uber alles. Shemp knows Al Gore Sr. was neither a segregationist nor a racist. It's been explained to him in detail and very well documented. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > The Senator that died in the airplane crash just before the > election a few > > years ago . I think from Minnesota. Paul Weldstone or something. > Remember the > > son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win! > And the > > booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class! > > > > ...and I think that the Republican won, didn't he? Alot of negative > reaction on the part of the voters to that, as I recall... Yes, a lot of people actually *believed* the extraordinary exaggerations and distortions spread by the right wing about the funeral. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 7:25:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > > Absolutely incredible. Not so incredible once you know the way this woman thinks. She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. who voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats uber alles. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/8/06 11:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Another funeral turned pep rally. > > What were the others, pray tell? > > The Senator that died in the airplane crash just before the > election a few years ago . I think from Minnesota. Paul > Weldstone or something. Wellstone. > Remember the > son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win! Right. As you noted, it was right before the election. Wellstone had been running for reelection, you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally popular crusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives. "We will win" was an expression of hope that his legacy would be carried on. Such expressions are quite common at funerals. > And the > booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class! This was *wildly* exaggerated by the right wing. There were only a few people who booed Trent Lott. The right wing pretended it had been the whole audience. I wonder how many would have booed had it been the funeral of a wildly popular Republican senator who had been tragically killed just before running for reelection, and former president Clinton had walked in. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/8/06 11:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Another funeral turned pep rally. > > What were the others, pray tell? > > > > The Senator that died in the airplane crash just before the election a few > years ago . I think from Minnesota. Paul Weldstone or something. Remember the > son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win! And the > booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class! > ...and I think that the Republican won, didn't he? Alot of negative reaction on the part of the voters to that, as I recall... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not really, ...then what is there to discuss? >but I know that the way you define poverty is so far out of the > mainstream that it has little meaning. Well, at least I defined it. You won't and don't. > I don't think a single social scientist or > politician would agree with your premise that poverty has been eliminated in > this country. I also think that your thinking is callous and shows indifference to > the deprivations suffered by many in the US today. What deprivations, specifically? As for callousness and indifference I suggest it is you who shows callousness to those in the world who truly suffer from genuine gut- wrenching poverty who could benefit from implementing in their own country the social/economic make-up of the country where poverty has been eliminated. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > Shemp, are you from Texas? > > > > > > > > feste37, do you have a definition of "poverty" that you'd like to > > share with us? > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still > > reeling > > > > > from your stated > > > > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to > > health > > > > > care as the > > > > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so > > it's not > > > > > much use > > > > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, > > rightly > > > > so), > > > > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it > > depressing. > > > > > > > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for > > themselves. > > > > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This > > is an > > > > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do > > so > > > > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if > > those > > > > of us living in the country where this success has taken place > > DENY > > > > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their > > > > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living > > with the > > > > solution say it isn't so? > > > > > > > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your > > liberal > > > > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party > > line but > > > > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the > > world > > > > before you take the stands that you do. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt greater > killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in the > middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that this > was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As > far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. > The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple > major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If you > can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let him > continue to kill? > > JohnY > Dude, drink the Kool-aid! This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs. Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure. Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this occasionally to justify killing someone. There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at least not in a unified way. Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals using our warring as justification for their continued violent response against us. And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure and further suffering. Very stupid policy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Are there many gods?
http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Jan/wnews_25jan2006_128.ram MMY answers at minute 34 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/9/06 6:00:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean like the transformation George Wallace undertook after he was governor for several terms and ended up garnering more than 90% of the African-American vote?Will you also acknowledge Wallace as transformed, too, and that he turned into a good Democrat, too? Oh, lets not forget the transformation of the Grand Kleegle Senator Robert *sheets* Byrd! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means > not > > > > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't > eat > > > > eggs either... > > > > > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > > > enough." > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > > > Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging > > his female patients and molesting them, so you may not > > want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) > > > > HOw did that turn out, BTW? Was he convicted? > http://tinyurl.com/dxgbf Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 2/9/06 4:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an > > > > A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their > > > > fans in Hawthorne, California, I can attest to the fact that the > > non- > > > > burger portion of the grill was used for toasted cheese sandwiches, > > > > > > > > > > Is that standard practice nationwide or were you catering to S. Cal. > > > Vegetarians? > > > > > > > > > Uh, A&W was pretty much your standard burger and soft drink joint -- > > not very popular anymore, as drive-ins (where the waiter comes to your > > car with food on a tray) have disappeared for the most part. > > I think they went bust because we always stole their great root beer > mugs from the tray (attached to the door) after the meal. > You might be interested to know that I never saw the head cook extinguish his cigarette by any means other than throwing it in the root beer tank, which might level the karmic playing field, come to think of it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/9/06 7:25:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretapsin the first place--at least morally; it was legal forhim to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly.But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behaviorreflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenlyopposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands ofAmericans, is really hard to figure. Absolutely incredible. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/8/06 11:09:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Another funeral turned pep rally.What were the others, pray tell? The Senator that died in the airplane crash just before the election a few years ago . I think from Minnesota. Paul Weldstone or something. Remember the son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win! And the booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 9:17 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:30 AM, feste37 wrote: >> >>> Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to >>> manufacture a >>> big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here >>> denounce >>> the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread >>> seriously >>> discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the >>> country of >>> choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical >>> thinking is being >>> applied very unevenly. >>> >> >> Well, when it was brought up many months ago it was just mentioned >> casually by an observer. So take that as you wish. The positive > thing >> is it brings the man more down to earth, which is probably good for > a >> person who is essentially a business man. >> > > ANd has claimed that he's a householder, not a recluse. You're referring to MMY? When did he make that claim? I once heard that he told Jerry that had he realized, as he now did, that he would have gotten enlightened whether or not he had gotten married, that he would have. But I never heard him say he's a householder. I've heard him say many times that he's a monk. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means > not > > > > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't > eat > > > > eggs either... > > > > > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > > > enough." > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > snip +++ Interesting how people are picking on eggs. I recall hearing that the hysteria concerning eggs was the result of a study sponsored by the cereal institute- typical big business bs. I average about a dozen a week and don't have amnesia. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > I agree that the best way to settle the middle east would have been > to > > get off of oil entirely, but that's not what has happened. Many > things > > in the relative involve choosing the lesser evil, that's why it's > > relative. > > I don't get what you're saying. If you are implying that the option to > get off oil was there, and ignored, and war chosen instead, how is war > the 'lesser evil'? > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill vs to solve the > problem. Since killing involves sin, whether you agree with it or not, > it requires a strong karmic return. > > In other words, even if war is seen as a justifiable option, > unfortunately the laws of cause and effect can't be bypassed. The > violence will only be perpetuated. This is why it is such a sin to do > this. This is the evil. Not only the act itself, but the miserable > cycle of karma that it begets. > > It's not about bullying either, we could do a far better job > > at that if that was the goal. > > > > JohnY > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt greater killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in the middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that this was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If you can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let him continue to kill? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling > > from your stated > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health > > care as the > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not > > much use > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, rightly > so), > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it depressing. > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for themselves. > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This is an > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do so > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if those > of us living in the country where this success has taken place DENY > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living with the > solution say it isn't so? > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your liberal > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party line but > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the world > before you take the stands that you do. > IF you define poverty as not having enough calaries available every day, then yes, MOST Americans don't live in poverty. However, man does not live by soda alone. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > >> > > >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > > > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > > > eggs either... > > > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > > enough." > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging > his female patients and molesting them, so you may not > want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) > HOw did that turn out, BTW? Was he convicted? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:18 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Uh, A&W was pretty much your standard burger and soft drink joint -- not very popular anymore, as drive-ins (where the waiter comes to your car with food on a tray) have disappeared for the most part. I think they went bust because we always stole their great root beer mugs from the tray (attached to the door) after the meal. Unless they went bust recently, they are still in business. When my son was in school in Montana two years ago we would often stop at the old style A & W drive-ins, still around in small Montana towns. It was nice to see. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 2/9/06 4:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an > > > A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their > > > fans in Hawthorne, California, I can attest to the fact that the > non- > > > burger portion of the grill was used for toasted cheese sandwiches, > > > > > > Is that standard practice nationwide or were you catering to S. Cal. > > Vegetarians? > > > > > Uh, A&W was pretty much your standard burger and soft drink joint -- > not very popular anymore, as drive-ins (where the waiter comes to your > car with food on a tray) have disappeared for the most part. I think they went bust because we always stole their great root beer mugs from the tray (attached to the door) after the meal. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 9:30 AM, feste37 wrote: > > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to > > manufacture a > > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here > > denounce > > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread > > seriously > > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the > > country of > > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical > > thinking is being > > applied very unevenly. > > > > Well, when it was brought up many months ago it was just mentioned > casually by an observer. So take that as you wish. The positive thing > is it brings the man more down to earth, which is probably good for a > person who is essentially a business man. > ANd has claimed that he's a householder, not a recluse. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you seriously suggesting that you can assess how long someone sleeps > by whether they are snoring or not? Looks to me like you're getting so > desperate you're no longer even thinking about what you write. Try taking a > nap! I sometimes listen to myself snore. Am I asleep or awake, or does the question make much sense? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:26 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > >> Once I found out the claims that he only slept a couple of hours a > > >> day were a lie, why should I believe anything else? > > >> > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of accepting > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out there > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to manufacture a > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here denounce > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread seriously > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the country of > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical thinking is being > applied very unevenly. Critical and thinking may not belong in the same sentence here. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of accepting > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out there > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whether MMY is a "scientist" or not has little to do > with having a degree. Science is a mode of inquiry. > MMY's thinking only superficially reflects this type > of thinking. He's interested in scientific research > when it confirms his hypothesis that TM is good for > everything and not interested in research that does > not produce these results. Of course. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > Crash. Boom. Shatter. > > What on *earth* do you imagine is being "shattered" > here, Sal? Could you be hearing things, perhaps? Perhaps. But it's still a welcome sound. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:26 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2006, at 7:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > >> > >> > >>> That said, what about the question itself? > >>> Does *anyone* here know whether Maharishi > >>> spent more than a couple of years in his > >>> studies, whether he ever took exams, and > >>> thus whether widespread claims of him being > >>> a 'scientist' were ever true? > >>> > >> > >> Once I found out the claims that he only slept a couple of hours a > >> day were a lie, why should I believe anything else? > >> > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of accepting > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out there > and both have the same name: "teacher". > Why would you suspect a claim was false, given that you believed someone was being honest? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I didn't give very much attention to the website where I found the > reference to MMY's education at Allahabad. As you know I am tracking > historical data on Guru Dev and MMY. But I admit I was tickled by the > reference to 'precisely because his followers are not critical, he > gets away with a host of absurdities'. It is definitely true that > many have accepted what MMY said on face value. Isn't that true of all spiritual leaders,including the very most famous in history? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > www.dci.dk/en/mtrl/tm.html > > > > > > 'The allegation that Maharishi is a scientist likewise forms part > of > > > the legend that TM has built up around him. He only studied for > one > > or > > > at the most two semesters at the Allahabad University, and never > took > > > any exams. He is in all respects self-taught, which is rather > obvious > > > for any critical reader of his writings. But precisely because > his > > > followers are not critical, he gets away with a host of > absurdities.' > > > > > > > Er, did you find the rest of the article accurate? > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
Not really, but I know that the way you define poverty is so far out of the mainstream that it has little meaning. I don't think a single social scientist or politician would agree with your premise that poverty has been eliminated in this country. I also think that your thinking is callous and shows indifference to the deprivations suffered by many in the US today. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Shemp, are you from Texas? > > > > feste37, do you have a definition of "poverty" that you'd like to > share with us? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still > reeling > > > > from your stated > > > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to > health > > > > care as the > > > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so > it's not > > > > much use > > > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, > rightly > > > so), > > > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > > > > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it > depressing. > > > > > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for > themselves. > > > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This > is an > > > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do > so > > > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if > those > > > of us living in the country where this success has taken place > DENY > > > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their > > > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living > with the > > > solution say it isn't so? > > > > > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your > liberal > > > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party > line but > > > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the > world > > > before you take the stands that you do. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 4:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an > > A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their > > fans in Hawthorne, California, I can attest to the fact that the non- > > burger portion of the grill was used for toasted cheese sandwiches, > > Is that standard practice nationwide or were you catering to S. Cal. > Vegetarians? > Uh, A&W was pretty much your standard burger and soft drink joint -- not very popular anymore, as drive-ins (where the waiter comes to your car with food on a tray) have disappeared for the most part. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. > > While I agree with your premise, some might differ about the homeless. > Sleeping in a doorway and eating out of garbage bins is not too much > different in LA, Rio, Manila or Delhi. Except in the US, usually a > meal a day or so is available at a shelter. And emergency rooms ae > maybe available for medical emergencies. > > Not to say that living at "poverty level" in the US is comfortable or > easy. But it usually means a roof, regular meals, indoor plumbing and > daily bathing, color TV, music access, library access, internet > access, functional, even stylish clothes, and even a car -- or at > least public transportation usually is available. And assisted medical > care, free education for kids. > > "Poverty level" in a developing country often means little or none of > the above. Well said. > > > This is an > > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. > > And real poverty has been reduced, and general standards of living > have risen, in India, China and elsewhere, since markets were reformed > and opened in the 80's. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shemp, are you from Texas? feste37, do you have a definition of "poverty" that you'd like to share with us? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling > > > from your stated > > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health > > > care as the > > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not > > > much use > > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, rightly > > so), > > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it depressing. > > > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for themselves. > > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This is an > > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do so > > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if those > > of us living in the country where this success has taken place DENY > > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their > > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living with the > > solution say it isn't so? > > > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your liberal > > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party line but > > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the world > > before you take the stands that you do. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
I think Ms. Sunshine may have been referring to the shattering effect on some True Believers of the revelation that MMY may at one time have eaten some fast food. The True Believer is of course a mythical beast who is not represented on this forum at all, as far as I am aware, but it nonetheless has many uses for those who like to tilt at windmills. I think on this occasion, however, Ms. Sunshine was being humorous. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > Crash. Boom. Shatter. > > What on *earth* do you imagine is being "shattered" > here, Sal? Could you be hearing things, perhaps? > > > > > > > > Geez, Rick, next thing you know you'll be telling us MMY actually > needs > > 6-8 hours of sleep a night, or something else equally as shocking. > > > > Sal > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to > the > > > restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a > grilled > > > cheese > > > sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled > on a > > > grill > > > used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were > cooked > > > in. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. While I agree with your premise, some might differ about the homeless. Sleeping in a doorway and eating out of garbage bins is not too much different in LA, Rio, Manila or Delhi. Except in the US, usually a meal a day or so is available at a shelter. And emergency rooms ae maybe available for medical emergencies. Not to say that living at "poverty level" in the US is comfortable or easy. But it usually means a roof, regular meals, indoor plumbing and daily bathing, color TV, music access, library access, internet access, functional, even stylish clothes, and even a car -- or at least public transportation usually is available. And assisted medical care, free education for kids. "Poverty level" in a developing country often means little or none of the above. > This is an > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. And real poverty has been reduced, and general standards of living have risen, in India, China and elsewhere, since markets were reformed and opened in the 80's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. While I agree with your premise, some might differ about the homeless. Sleeping in a doorway and eating out of garbage bins is not too much different in LA, Rio, Manila or Delhi. Except in the US, usually a meal a day or so is available at a shelter. And emergency rooms ae maybe available for medical emergencies. Not to say that living at "poverty level" in the US is comfortable or easy. But it usually means a roof, regular meals, indoor plumbing and daily bathing, color TV, music access, library access, internet access, functional, even stylish clothes, and even a car -- or at least public transportation usually is available. And assisted medical care, fee education for kids. "Poverty level" in a developing country often means little or none of the above. > This is an > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. And real poverty has been reduced, and general standards of living have risen, in India, China and elsewhere, since markets were reformed and opened in the 80's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
Shemp, are you from Texas? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling > > from your stated > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health > > care as the > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not > > much use > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, rightly > so), > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it depressing. > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for themselves. > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This is an > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do so > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if those > of us living in the country where this success has taken place DENY > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living with the > solution say it isn't so? > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your liberal > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party line but > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the world > before you take the stands that you do. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > Of course, Dixon's comments about Ted Kennedy were irrelevant, but > > the point is that Robert Kennedy did do multiple approvals of the > > wiretaps. > > As far as Robert Kennedy's character supposedly making him only a > > reluctant supporter of the wiretap campaign against King, he was a > > mutt who loved Sen McCarthy's witchhunt and worked for that lowlife > > alongside the execrable Roy Cohn. Kennedy defended both his work > > for McCarthy and McCarthy himself long after even middle of the > > road Americans were totally disgusted with both: > > That was in 1955, and it doesn't necessarily negate > reluctance on his part to wiretap King. > > In any case, most people who have been paying attention > are aware that Bobby Kennedy went through a major > transformation after JFK was killed. You mean like the transformation George Wallace undertook after he was governor for several terms and ended up garnering more than 90% of the African-American vote? Will you also acknowledge Wallace as transformed, too, and that he turned into a good Democrat, too? > > The poem by Aeschylus he quoted when he addressed > the campaign crowds in Indianapolis to announce MLK's > assassination-- > > "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget > falls drop by drop upon the heart, > until, in our own despair, > against our will, > comes wisdom > through the awful grace of God." > > --evidently was an emblem, to him, of his change > of heart (and perhaps even a tacit expression of > regret for not having treated King properly). > > > > > > > > > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk2.htm > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling > from your stated > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health > care as the > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not > much use > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, rightly so), > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it depressing. But what's more depressing is people who can't think for themselves. Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. This is an incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to do so does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because if those of us living in the country where this success has taken place DENY it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and their political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living with the solution say it isn't so? So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your liberal friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party line but think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of the world before you take the stands that you do. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an > A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their > fans in Hawthorne, California, I know Bob is too modest to mention it, but he was the inspiration for the Beach Boys #1 hit in 1966, and their first truly spiritual song, "Bob, Baba AM." Bob, Bob, Bob, Baba Baba AM. Oh BaBa AM Oh Baba Man, take my paan Bob, Baba Man You got me shock'in and a-flowin' Shaktiput'in an' a-being' Bob, Bob, Bob, Baba AM Bob BABA Man Went into a trance, to get bliss enhanced Saw BaBa Man, so I thought I'd take a chance With Bob BaBa Man, BaBa Man Take my paan You got me shock'in and a-flowin' (oh! oh!) Shaktiput'in an' a-being' Bob, Bob, Bob, Baba AM Bob BABA Man Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FOI Documents Reveal Military Will Pursue Internet As Enemy Territory
This message is available online at http://www.WantToKnow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet "From influencing public opinion through new media to designing 'computer network attack' weapons, the US military is learning to fight an electronic war. 'Strategy should be based on the premise that the Department [of Defense] will 'fight the net' as it would an enemy weapons system.' The document recommends that the United States should seek the ability to 'provide maximum control of the entire electromagnetic spectrum'. US forces should be able to 'disrupt or destroy the full spectrum of globally emerging communications systems, sensors, and weapons systems'." -- BBC article describing U.S. plans to fight the Internet, 1/27/06 February 3, 2006 Dear friends, The highly informative BBC article below describes disturbing plans by the U.S. military to control the Internet. A U.S. military document recently uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act reveals an "Information Operations Roadmap" in which plans are being made based on the premise that the military will view the Internet "as it would an enemy weapons system." The document is signed by U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. If you care about freedom of information on the Internet, this is a vitally important article. A Google News search on the military's "Information Operations Roadmap" reveals that, of major media in the US, only the Los Angeles Times, Newsday, and ABC even mention the recently released "Information Operations Roadmap," and none of these give much detail. Why is the U.S. media so reluctant to report on these matters which are vital to the preservation of freedom of speech guaranteed in the first amendment of the U.S. constitution? If you care about preserving the free flow of information over the Internet, please spread the news about this most important BBC article. Together, we can and will build a brighter future. With best wishes, Fred Burks for the WantToKnow.info Team Former language interpreter for Presidents Bush and Clinton http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4655196.stm US plans to 'fight the net' revealed By Adam Brookes BBC Pentagon correspondent A newly declassified document gives a fascinating glimpse into the US military's plans for "information operations" - from psychological operations, to attacks on hostile computer networks. Bloggers beware. As the world turns networked, the Pentagon is calculating the military opportunities that computer networks, wireless technologies and the modern media offer. From influencing public opinion through new media to designing "computer network attack" weapons, the US military is learning to fight an electronic war. The declassified document is called "Information Operations Roadmap". It was obtained by the National Security Archive at George Washington University using the Freedom of Information Act. Officials in the Pentagon wrote it in 2003. The Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, signed it. The "roadmap" calls for a far-reaching overhaul of the military's ability to conduct information operations and electronic warfare. And, in some detail, it makes recommendations for how the US armed forces should think about this new, virtual warfare. The document says that information is "critical to military success". Computer and telecommunications networks are of vital operational importance. Propaganda The operations described in the document include a surprising range of military activities: public affairs officers who brief journalists, psychological operations troops who try to manipulate the thoughts and beliefs of an enemy, computer network attack specialists who seek to destroy enemy networks. All these are engaged in information operations. Perhaps the most startling aspect of the roadmap is its acknowledgement that information put out as part of the military's psychological operations, or Psyops, is finding its way onto the computer and television screens of ordinary Americans. "Information intended for foreign audiences, including public diplomacy and Psyops, is increasingly consumed by our domestic audience," it reads. "Psyops messages will often be replayed by the news media for much larger audiences, including the American public," it goes on. The document's authors acknowledge that American news media should not unwittingly broadcast military propaganda. "Specific boundaries should be established," they write. But they don't seem to explain how. "In this day and age it is impossible to prevent stories that are fed abroad as part of psychological operations propaganda from blowing back into the United States - even though they were directed abroad," says Kristin Adair of the National Security Archive. Credibility problem Public awareness of the US military's information operations is low, but it's growing - thanks to some operational clumsiness. Late last year, it emerged that the Pentagon had paid a private company, the Lincol
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, Dixon's comments about Ted Kennedy were irrelevant, but > the point is that Robert Kennedy did do multiple approvals of the > wiretaps. > As far as Robert Kennedy's character supposedly making him only a > reluctant supporter of the wiretap campaign against King, he was a > mutt who loved Sen McCarthy's witchhunt and worked for that lowlife > alongside the execrable Roy Cohn. Kennedy defended both his work > for McCarthy and McCarthy himself long after even middle of the > road Americans were totally disgusted with both: That was in 1955, and it doesn't necessarily negate reluctance on his part to wiretap King. In any case, most people who have been paying attention are aware that Bobby Kennedy went through a major transformation after JFK was killed. The poem by Aeschylus he quoted when he addressed the campaign crowds in Indianapolis to announce MLK's assassination-- "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God." --evidently was an emblem, to him, of his change of heart (and perhaps even a tacit expression of regret for not having treated King properly). > > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk2.htm > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 4:22 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an > A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their > fans in Hawthorne, California, I can attest to the fact that the non- > burger portion of the grill was used for toasted cheese sandwiches, Is that standard practice nationwide or were you catering to S. Cal. Vegetarians? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling from your stated > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health care as the > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not much use > talking to them about critical thinking. > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, rightly so), and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 1:47 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > >> only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > >> eggs either... > >> > > > > Charlie used to tell a funny story about MMY and ice cream. Maharishi > > would ask if there were eggs in the ice cream and Charlie would say. > > "Nah..." and M would go on eating (and Charlie would make a funny > > face) so maybe the eggs thang isn't true :-) > > I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to the > restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a grilled cheese > sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled on a grill > used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were cooked in. > Having done time as a fry cook when I was a kid (for a $1/hr) at an A&W Drive-in, serving up burgers to the young Beach Boys and their fans in Hawthorne, California, I can attest to the fact that the non- burger portion of the grill was used for toasted cheese sandwiches, and the oil even back in the 60s was of vegetable origin (although MacDonalds famously was sued for adding beef flavoring to its fry oil). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Crash. Boom. Shatter. What on *earth* do you imagine is being "shattered" here, Sal? Could you be hearing things, perhaps? > > Geez, Rick, next thing you know you'll be telling us MMY actually needs > 6-8 hours of sleep a night, or something else equally as shocking. > > Sal > > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to the > > restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a grilled > > cheese > > sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled on a > > grill > > used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were cooked > > in. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > However I did have to chuckle when Jimmy Carter tried to take > > > > a poke at Bush when he referred to illegal wire tapings and > > > > spying on of citizens Martin Luther King and wife. What was so > > > > funny was Ted Kennedy was sitting not 30 feet from Carter and > > > > it was John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy that ordered the wire > > > > taps on the Kings. > > > > > > > > OOOPs! Who was Jimmy trying to embarres? > > > > > > > You've just "embarressed" yourself. Here's the Church > > > Commission report on the wiretapping of Dr. King: > > > > > > http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > * > > > > From the link you cite, Robert Kennedy did approve wiretaps on > > King, although the FBI went further than Kennedy had in mind, > > evidently: > > That's the understatement of the month. > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > *** Of course, Dixon's comments about Ted Kennedy were irrelevant, but the point is that Robert Kennedy did do multiple approvals of the wiretaps. As far as Robert Kennedy's character supposedly making him only a reluctant supporter of the wiretap campaign against King, he was a mutt who loved Sen McCarthy's witchhunt and worked for that lowlife alongside the execrable Roy Cohn. Kennedy defended both his work for McCarthy and McCarthy himself long after even middle of the road Americans were totally disgusted with both: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk2.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > > > > Alumni are graduates, not people who attended for a semester. > > > > > > Not true, as anyone who has ever attended an Ivy > > > League school, even for a short time, would know. > > > I attended such a school for one year a long, long > > > time ago and they've been badgering me for money > > > ever since, as an alumnus. :-) > > > > > > Or you could take Merriam-Webster's word for it: > > > > > > Main Entry: alum·nus > > > Pronunciation: &-'l&m-n&s > > > Function: noun > > > Inflected Form(s): plural alum·ni /-"nI/ > > > Etymology: Latin, foster son, pupil, from alere to nourish -- > more > > > at OLD > > > 1 : one who has attended or has graduated from a particular > > school, > > > college, or university > > > 2 : one who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate > > > > > > If we go by definition two, Maharishi could have > > > been an inmate in the Psychiatric ward of Allahabad > > > University and still be considered an alumnus. :-) > > > > ** > > > > OK, an alumnus can be defined as one who has merely attended, but > > MMY did graduate from Allahabad. > > And you know this exactly how? > > Oh, I forgot. Maharishi sez. > All universities have some means of verifying degree claims -- here is a U.S. college page: http://www.morehouse.edu/recordsregistration/degreeinformation.php If schools did not verify degrees, then anybody could make claims about being a graduate. MMY has been in the West for about 50 years -- if his claim to having a bachelor's degree from Allahabad U were not true, then one of the little darkness-luvin' demons opposed to his mission of enlightenment would surely have seized this trivial little item as a means to slur his reputation, and showed evidence from Allahabad U that MMY did not graduate, but this has not happened, and the reason is because MMY did graduate. I'm not going to do the legwork to contact Allahabad U for verification, but by all means, go ahead and waste your time: http://www.allduniv.edu/query.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
Crash. Boom. Shatter. Geez, Rick, next thing you know you'll be telling us MMY actually needs 6-8 hours of sleep a night, or something else equally as shocking. Sal On Feb 9, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to the restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a grilled cheese sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled on a grill used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were cooked in.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling from your stated > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health care as the > rich. Did I say that they had "just as much access to health care as the rich"? Or did I say that the poor had access to health care as defined as a basic necessity? Surely, a rich person, for example, can afford a private hospital room whereby a poor person will get placed in a ward. Surely, a rich person will have his or her choice of doctors whereas a poor person won't. BUT: the poor person will NOT be denied basic medical care. Do you know that in the USA over $360 billion a year is spent on just one poverty program -- called Medicaid -- to provide health care to the poor? That's almost twice as much as the entire Canadian federal budget where health care is universally available. And that's just ONE program: Medicaire pays for over 80% of health care costs for seniors... > Someone who believes that will believe anything, It's not a question of believing or not believing but of facts. > so it's not much use > talking to them about critical thinking. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to > > manufacture a > > > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here > > denounce > > > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread > > seriously > > > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the > > country of > > > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical > > thinking is being > > > applied very unevenly. > > > > > > > > > > Gosh. > > > > Applying one standard for a current historical figures who is still > > alive and can, if he chooses to, correct the record and another one > > who has been dead for 2,000 years. > > > > How unfair. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of > > accepting > > > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out > > there > > > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree that the best way to settle the middle east would have been to > get off of oil entirely, but that's not what has happened. Many things > in the relative involve choosing the lesser evil, that's why it's > relative. I don't get what you're saying. If you are implying that the option to get off oil was there, and ignored, and war chosen instead, how is war the 'lesser evil'? The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill vs to solve the problem. Since killing involves sin, whether you agree with it or not, it requires a strong karmic return. In other words, even if war is seen as a justifiable option, unfortunately the laws of cause and effect can't be bypassed. The violence will only be perpetuated. This is why it is such a sin to do this. This is the evil. Not only the act itself, but the miserable cycle of karma that it begets. It's not about bullying either, we could do a far better job > at that if that was the goal. > > JohnY > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-GMO Activist Barred Entry into US by Bush Admin.
The next step, if it has not already been taken, is that American activists in similar causes will be designated "terrorist sympathizers" and declared hostile to the national interest, and they will be spied upon by the Bush administration or whichever administration follows them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > NEW YORK - French farmer Jose Bove, a prominent protester against > genetically modified food and agricultural free trade, has been denied > entry into the United States, officials of an event he was due to > address said on Thursday. > > Bove arrived at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport with > a valid U.S. entry visa on Wednesday afternoon but was detained for > several hours and later returned to Paris, according to William > Kramer, a spokesman for the conference. > > "This is ridiculous, this is illegal, you're violating his free > speech," Kramer said. He said calls to the U.S. Immigration Department > and to the Department of Homeland Security had failed to secure an > explanation. > > U.S. immigration officials were not immediately available for comment. > > On Friday, Bove was to deliver an address titled "The Struggle Against > Monsanto in Europe." U.S.-based Monsanto Co. is a major manufacturer > of genetically modified seeds. > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11255815/from/RSS/ > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 1:47 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > >> only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > >> eggs either... > >> > > > > Charlie used to tell a funny story about MMY and ice cream. Maharishi > > would ask if there were eggs in the ice cream and Charlie would say. > > "Nah..." and M would go on eating (and Charlie would make a funny > > face) so maybe the eggs thang isn't true :-) > > I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to the > restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a grilled cheese > sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled on a grill > used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were cooked in. > Illusions are falling by the wayside ;-) Must be 'sin' ;-) Thanks for that, Rick ! JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In Canada, you can have sex with a 14-year-old... > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, just like getting married at 14 in Iowa, South > Carolina, > > > and > > > > > Connecticut with parental consent... > > > > > > > > > > And is that actually *worse* than waging war on people? > Please > > > deny > > > > > that all kinds of atrocities, torture and rape are *not* > > > occuring in > > > > > Iraq... oh...right...just for the "suspected terrorists"... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? > > > > > > > > What's the logic of the segueway from age of consent to war? > > > > > > > Personally, as an American, I find that waging unprovoked war on > > > others to be so evil and corrupting an influence on the world, > that > > > these days it is damned hard to point fingers at any other > country. > > > > > > Granted nobody is perfect, and yet what this country is doing is > so > > > horrible, so irredeemable, that other countries' behaviors truly > > > pale in comparison. > > > > > > So, in my opinion, we should first get our own house in order > before > > > pointing out the errors of others. > > > > > > ...must be a Sat Yuga thang...;) > > > > > > > Gee, Jim an awful lot of fuzzy relitivistic stuff there One > man's > > evil is another man's duty or at least lesser of evil's. Let's see > how > > it works out, statigically. > > > > JohnY > > > I don't see the fuzz. This ability that many of us have these days > to look at something so ugly and pointless as war and pronounce it > as somehow strategic, or a sound solution, is beyond me. It is as > close to pure evil as anything I can think of. > > I know a world war two vet who served in the Pacific as a Marine > sniper. He had nightmares for *thirty years* nearly every night > afterwards because of what he had been exposed to. > > And it isn't like there aren't alternatives...I proposed back in > 2001 that we as a country embark on an alternative energy program > with the same fervor as we had in the 60's to put a man on the moon. > That would cool down the Middle East immeasurably. > > But now I see that this war isn't about oil. It is about bullying, > and imposing our will on others, and showing the world that you > can't push around the USA. Oh, and weapons testing. Can't forget the > immoral weapons testing... > > So call it what you will. I call it Sin. > I agree that the best way to settle the middle east would have been to get off of oil entirely, but that's not what has happened. Many things in the relative involve choosing the lesser evil, that's why it's relative. It's not about bullying either, we could do a far better job at that if that was the goal. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Anti-GMO Activist Barred Entry into US by Bush Admin.
NEW YORK - French farmer Jose Bove, a prominent protester against genetically modified food and agricultural free trade, has been denied entry into the United States, officials of an event he was due to address said on Thursday. Bove arrived at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport with a valid U.S. entry visa on Wednesday afternoon but was detained for several hours and later returned to Paris, according to William Kramer, a spokesman for the conference. "This is ridiculous, this is illegal, you're violating his free speech," Kramer said. He said calls to the U.S. Immigration Department and to the Department of Homeland Security had failed to secure an explanation. U.S. immigration officials were not immediately available for comment. On Friday, Bove was to deliver an address titled "The Struggle Against Monsanto in Europe." U.S.-based Monsanto Co. is a major manufacturer of genetically modified seeds. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11255815/from/RSS/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did TM for 30 years solely because I had heard that MMY didn't sleep much. > Before that, I was a Christian. But when I heard that Jesus wasn't even a > college graduate, that was the end of it for me. > :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm still reeling from your stated belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access to health care as the rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, so it's not much use talking to them about critical thinking. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to > manufacture a > > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here > denounce > > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread > seriously > > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the > country of > > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical > thinking is being > > applied very unevenly. > > > > > Gosh. > > Applying one standard for a current historical figures who is still > alive and can, if he chooses to, correct the record and another one > who has been dead for 2,000 years. > > How unfair. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of > accepting > > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out > there > > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > > > been the law of nature." > > > > > > > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, > > > >January 12, 1975, page 47 > > > >Lupidus: Maharishi is absolutely correct, as usual. > > > > > > * > Irmeli:If that is really how MMY understands the mechanics of > rulership, it > > > must be completely clear to him, why there has been very little > > > support of nature and real success in his movement. > > > Lupidus: Probably you are just not being able to see the success. > > Irmeli: Yes there has been certain success on very subtle levels of > manifestation, but MMY:s role in that success is just that of a > messenger boy. He has some role in it, but only some, and of course > even that is something. In that respect he has been successful. But in > my opinion that success has not been dependent on him. It would have > happened also without him. Thats your take. I think Maharishi would be very comfortable being labeled a "messenger boy". > > > > > > >Irmeli: I wonder also how he would explain the success of democracy > in the > > > more advanced and affluent part of the world in the light of this > > > theory of his? > > > > Lupidus:What success - what security ? The monetary sucess could, > along with > > security evaporate overnight. > > Irmeli: > You apparently cannot see a correlation between democracy and less > violence and less injustice and less poverty. I'm sorry, but you do not see the possebility of a total breakdown of the values you cherish; democracy/less violence/injustice/poverty. You simply feel too safe in your little Finland. About 15 years ago Maharishi said something in the line of; The bombs could go off in Denmark any time, no democracy is safe today; create big coherencecreating groups now ! (This is not a direct quote). But everyone thought MMY had gone mad; from where could little Denmark be challenged ? Now we now. We also know that everything Maharishi says will come to be, sooner or later. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 1:47 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not >> only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat >> eggs either... >> > > Charlie used to tell a funny story about MMY and ice cream. Maharishi > would ask if there were eggs in the ice cream and Charlie would say. > "Nah..." and M would go on eating (and Charlie would make a funny > face) so maybe the eggs thang isn't true :-) I was once handed a $50 by Johnny Gray and asked to run down to the restaurant in a Howard Johnson's hotel near JFK to buy MMY a grilled cheese sandwich and French fries. Undoubtedly the sandwich was grilled on a grill used to cook burgers all day and God knows what the fries were cooked in. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > >wrote: > > > > > >Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now > >where because of age the focal length of my vision is such > >that I can read my computer screen perfectly, but can't > >easily read books. > > > > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this > same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained > it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at > least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As > you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow > "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. > In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a > few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem > went away. > > Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an > environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses > don't help if the issue is needing more light. For > example, I've grown used to having to have my date read > the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool > I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just > splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken > her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) > > > >>>Right, its the light too- which is one reason I can read a > >>>computer screen more easily...no big deal... > >>> > >>> > >>You might also want to look into the sharpness and > >>the flicker rate of the computer screen itself. I > >>had a bad monitor at work for a while, an old-style > >>CRT monitor. What I'd notice that was on the Metro > >>going to work, I could read a book easily, but on > >>the way home, after looking at the monitor all day, > >>I couldn't even focus on the page. Finally I put > >>two and two together and asked for a different > >>monitor. Poof! The problem went away completely. > >> > >>None of these suggestions may be relevant to your > >>situation, but I'm just bringing them up because > >>I spent a couple of years avoiding reading because > >>it was no longer comfortable. Then I figured out > >>that I didn't have to. > >> > >> > >> > >Yep, thanks for all of this. Fortunately my greater difficulty with > >reading has coincided nicely with my lack of interest in > >books...Funny, because at first I thought something was wrong. Then > >I realized it wasn't. > > > > > There is also a report recently that people aren't able to read so well > because they have become used to "skimming" information on the web due > to the overwhelming amount information available. When my work load > is low I read books on weekends as I can't after a full day at the > computer, not because of flicker but because I feel it better to focus > on something at a distance (my HDTV) and give my eyes a rest from close > work. My optometrist agreed. I read a lot - and yesterday I started with Steve Briggs book - India the Mirror of Truth. Very interesting. Ingegerd > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > In Canada, you can have sex with a 14-year-old... > > > > > > > > > Yeah, just like getting married at 14 in Iowa, South Carolina, > > and > > > > Connecticut with parental consent... > > > > > > > > And is that actually *worse* than waging war on people? Please > > deny > > > > that all kinds of atrocities, torture and rape are *not* > > occuring in > > > > Iraq... oh...right...just for the "suspected terrorists"... > > > > > > > > > > Huh? > > > > > > What's the logic of the segueway from age of consent to war? > > > > > Personally, as an American, I find that waging unprovoked war on > > others to be so evil and corrupting an influence on the world, that > > these days it is damned hard to point fingers at any other country. > > > > Granted nobody is perfect, and yet what this country is doing is so > > horrible, so irredeemable, that other countries' behaviors truly > > pale in comparison. > > > > So, in my opinion, we should first get our own house in order before > > pointing out the errors of others. > > > > ...must be a Sat Yuga thang...;) > > > > Gee, Jim an awful lot of fuzzy relitivistic stuff there One man's > evil is another man's duty or at least lesser of evil's. Let's see how > it works out, statigically. > > JohnY > I don't see the fuzz. This ability that many of us have these days to look at something so ugly and pointless as war and pronounce it as somehow strategic, or a sound solution, is beyond me. It is as close to pure evil as anything I can think of. I know a world war two vet who served in the Pacific as a Marine sniper. He had nightmares for *thirty years* nearly every night afterwards because of what he had been exposed to. And it isn't like there aren't alternatives...I proposed back in 2001 that we as a country embark on an alternative energy program with the same fervor as we had in the 60's to put a man on the moon. That would cool down the Middle East immeasurably. But now I see that this war isn't about oil. It is about bullying, and imposing our will on others, and showing the world that you can't push around the USA. Oh, and weapons testing. Can't forget the immoral weapons testing... So call it what you will. I call it Sin. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steaming Hot Cup O Jihad with that Danish?
I feel the same, that Christianity and Islam has been used in a political way to keep power and control of people in the name of God. The Old Testament is really brutal. The women are suppressed in every relegion - where the rules is made by men. So we should be very careful not to lose the Free Press and Humour and Cartoons - it create discussions - and dialogs - and that is good. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've always felt that Islam was more of a political movement than a > religion but then many people think the roots of Christianity were > actually a political movement. Mohamed was concerned with the tribal > wars in the region and that many of the war lords were doing rituals to > "pagan" gods to achieve power. So he dreamt up this religion with "one > true God" to try to calm the tribal wars. There is an excellent > documentary on this (mostly Iranian produced) either from PBS or > National Geographic (I don't remember which and maybe it was both) on DVD. > > Ingegerd wrote: > > >The start of the cartoons - was that someone wanted some pictures > >for a book for children, explaining also about the Prophet. > >According to Walid al-Kubaisi, a writer, some parts of the Muslim > >World allow cartoon about the Prophet, some not. A cartoon of the > >Prophet was printed in an Iranian Newspaper in June 2001, showing a > >feminine Prophet. No reaction at all. This is not only Religion, it > >is a mix of Politic and Relegion, special in countries where the > >Relegion govern the Politic. Denmark and Norway is small countries - > >and weak military - so it is very easy to threaten us. Norways has > >4.5 million people - the Muslims 1 milliard. David against Goliat. > >Ingegerd > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > >wrote: > > > > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > >>wrote: > >> > >> > >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu > > > >wrote: > > > > > >The cartoons were first published in September so why are > > > > > >they > > > > > >rioting now? Maybe it *is* staged: > > > > > > > >http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/danish_muslim_riots_staged_psyop.ht m > > > > > >CIA business as usual? > > > > > That is the general consensus in the French papers, > that the whole thing is being staged as a part of > the US selling the world another war, this time > against Iran. > > > >>>That could very well be. It also occurs to me that after you've > >>>bombed, shot, assassinated, tortured and jailed a culture long > >>>enough, it doesn't take much more to set them off. > >>> > >>> > >>You bet. And as I understand it, now it's not so much > >>about the cartoons themselves as the callous response to > >>the original, much more restrained complaints about the > >>cartoons. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To subscribe, send a message to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Or go to: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > >and click 'Join This Group!' > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus/Christ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > Makes sense. When I look for Jesus in the past, I can't find him. > > > There are strong waves of thought around who the Christian people > > > really want him to be, the very selectively described fellow in > the > > > Bible, but when I go into those areas with penetrating > > > consciousness, there is no one there! > > > > Well said. Seriously, you might give "Lamb," by Christopher > > Moore a shot. There is more of who/what the real Christ > > might have been in that book than in the entire Bible. > > > > > For awhile now I have as a result concluded that Jesus didn't > exist, > > > but that didn't quite feel right either... > > > > > > These other accounts that he existed but that his full nature is > > > hidden from view from the ordinary Christians make more sense. > > Well put! The historical Jesus of Nazareth and The Christ are two > different enteties. Jesus from Palestine was teaching in the light > of Christ for about 3 years. Christ is now in incarnation with many > of His Masters, with the name Maitreya. One of His Masters, > Brahmananda Saraswati is currently not in incarnation. For more > information, please see: > > http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm > > > Yeah, I've heard that too- how Christ consciousness is different from the Jesus guy, etc. I was pretty involved with Christianity (Protestant/Episcopalian) until I was about 13, as an altar boy and stuff. Then one day the priest said that there are some questions [about God and the Universe] that we are never able to answer. Sort of set up a perpetual carrot on a stick approach. It was like letting the air out of a balloon for me, and I rapidly lost interest in the Christianity after that. So maybe Christ is Christ, or maybe he's Jesus Christ, but until someone can explain to me why I should care, I'll leave it to others to figure out... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > eggs either... > Charlie used to tell a funny story about MMY and ice cream. Maharishi would ask if there were eggs in the ice cream and Charlie would say. "Nah..." and M would go on eating (and Charlie would make a funny face) so maybe the eggs thang isn't true :-) JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Kentuckey & Canada @ 14yrs. Sex ok or NOT but Joseph &the Profit @6 or 9yrs OK
St. Joseph married Mary when she was 12-13 yrs old & they had sons & daughter's as well as one Jesus James etc. & "The Prophet " All praise to his name revealed an un--clothed Aisha @ 6 yrs of age later married her @ 9 , when he was in his 50's,amongst others,all OK . the prophets accounts are based on the works of Bukhari printed in Al-Hilal a Jordanian weekly. So lets not fuss over folks boy or girl,equality there, under 14 in Canada, & some states of the USA as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In Canada, you can have sex with a 14-year-old... > > > > > > > Yeah, just like getting married at 14 in Iowa, South Carolina, > and > > > Connecticut with parental consent... > > > > > > And is that actually *worse* than waging war on people? Please > deny > > > that all kinds of atrocities, torture and rape are *not* > occuring in > > > Iraq... oh...right...just for the "suspected terrorists"... > > > > > > > Huh? > > > > What's the logic of the segueway from age of consent to war? > > > Personally, as an American, I find that waging unprovoked war on > others to be so evil and corrupting an influence on the world, that > these days it is damned hard to point fingers at any other country. > > Granted nobody is perfect, and yet what this country is doing is so > horrible, so irredeemable, that other countries' behaviors truly > pale in comparison. > > So, in my opinion, we should first get our own house in order before > pointing out the errors of others. > > ...must be a Sat Yuga thang...;) > Gee, Jim an awful lot of fuzzy relitivistic stuff there One man's evil is another man's duty or at least lesser of evil's. Let's see how it works out, statigically. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > > > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > > > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > > > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > Of course, it is good ethics not to visit the sins of the father or > > brother upon the son or brother. > > > > But, of course, Teddy is only a senator in the first place because > > of his family connections > > And his family's commitment to social justice > and service, to which he has devoted his life. > Yeah, especially women...like the one that that is at the bottom of that lake in Chappaquiddick...or that woman that his nephew raped -- oops, I mean DIDN'T rape -- in Florida...or that murder in Conneticut... Yeah, real commitment there, Judith... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
As Irina, the Russian amputee and one-time paramour of Tony Soprano, said to Janice Soprano: "boring woman". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > >> > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > > > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > > > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > > > Judy Stein, Democratic Party apologist. > > Shemp McGurk, master of the non sequitur. > > > Fact is that Robert Kennedy was one of the counsels for Joe > > McCarthy and HUAC...and a very agressive one, to boot. > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm only going to talk to you just for a minute > or so this evening, because I have some very sad news for all of you - > - Could you lower those signs, please? -- I have some very sad news > for all of you, and, I think, sad news for all of our fellow > citizens, and people who love peace all over the world; and that is > that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis, > Tennessee. > > Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between > fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this > difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's > perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction > we want to move in. For those of you who are black -- considering the > evidence evidently is that there were white people who were > responsible -- you can be filled with bitterness, and with hatred, > and a desire for revenge. > > We can move in that direction as a country, in greater polarization -- > black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites, filled with > hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther > King did, to understand, and to comprehend, and replace that > violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, > with an effort to understand, compassion and love. > > For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with > hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all > white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart > the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he > was killed by a white man. > > But we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make > an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather > difficult times. > > My favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote: > > "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget > falls drop by drop upon the heart, > until, in our own despair, > against our will, > comes wisdom > through the awful grace of God." > > What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in > the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is > not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom, and compassion > toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still > suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be > black. > > So I ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family > of Martin Luther King -- yeah, it's true -- but more importantly to > say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love -- a prayer > for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke. > > We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've > had difficult times in the past. And we will have difficult times in > the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of > lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder. > > But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black > people in this country want to live together, want to improve the > quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide > in our land. > > Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: > to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. > Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country > and for our people. > > Thank you very much. > > --Robert F. Kennedy, April 4, 1968, Indianapolis > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: ht
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now >where because of age the focal length of my vision is such >that I can read my computer screen perfectly, but can't >easily read books. > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem went away. Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses don't help if the issue is needing more light. For example, I've grown used to having to have my date read the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) >>>Right, its the light too- which is one reason I can read a >>>computer screen more easily...no big deal... >>> >>> >>You might also want to look into the sharpness and >>the flicker rate of the computer screen itself. I >>had a bad monitor at work for a while, an old-style >>CRT monitor. What I'd notice that was on the Metro >>going to work, I could read a book easily, but on >>the way home, after looking at the monitor all day, >>I couldn't even focus on the page. Finally I put >>two and two together and asked for a different >>monitor. Poof! The problem went away completely. >> >>None of these suggestions may be relevant to your >>situation, but I'm just bringing them up because >>I spent a couple of years avoiding reading because >>it was no longer comfortable. Then I figured out >>that I didn't have to. >> >> >> >Yep, thanks for all of this. Fortunately my greater difficulty with >reading has coincided nicely with my lack of interest in >books...Funny, because at first I thought something was wrong. Then >I realized it wasn't. > > There is also a report recently that people aren't able to read so well because they have become used to "skimming" information on the web due to the overwhelming amount information available. When my work load is low I read books on weekends as I can't after a full day at the computer, not because of flicker but because I feel it better to focus on something at a distance (my HDTV) and give my eyes a rest from close work. My optometrist agreed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus/Christ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > Makes sense. When I look for Jesus in the past, I can't find him. > > There are strong waves of thought around who the Christian people > > really want him to be, the very selectively described fellow in the > > Bible, but when I go into those areas with penetrating > > consciousness, there is no one there! > > Well said. Seriously, you might give "Lamb," by Christopher > Moore a shot. There is more of who/what the real Christ > might have been in that book than in the entire Bible. > > > For awhile now I have as a result concluded that Jesus didn't exist, > > but that didn't quite feel right either... > > > > These other accounts that he existed but that his full nature is > > hidden from view from the ordinary Christians make more sense. Well put! The historical Jesus of Nazareth and The Christ are two different enteties. Jesus from Palestine was teaching in the light of Christ for about 3 years. Christ is now in incarnation with many of His Masters, with the name Maitreya. One of His Masters, Brahmananda Saraswati is currently not in incarnation. For more information, please see: http://www.shareintl.org/magazine/SI_current.htm > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > Of course, it is good ethics not to visit the sins of the father or > brother upon the son or brother. > > But, of course, Teddy is only a senator in the first place because > of his family connections And his family's commitment to social justice and service, to which he has devoted his life. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 1:12 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > >> on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > >>> > >>> My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > >>> only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > >>> eggs either... > >> > >> Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > >> enough." > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > I think he stole that line from Jerry Jarvis. > I lived with an Ecuadorian family for about a year when I was about 17. With every meal they had rice, even breakfast. My favourite meal was when they would serve a fried egg or two on top of the rice: you could then break the yolk and let all the yellow seep into the rice. Really, really yummy...especially, too, because of the way they made the rice: she would purposely let the rice burn at the bottom of the pan (actually, it would turn golden) and then she would mix that burnt part in with the rest of the rice. Since then, I've tried to replicate the burning of the rice the way she did it but have never been successful. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Steaming Hot Cup O Jihad with that Danish?
I've always felt that Islam was more of a political movement than a religion but then many people think the roots of Christianity were actually a political movement. Mohamed was concerned with the tribal wars in the region and that many of the war lords were doing rituals to "pagan" gods to achieve power. So he dreamt up this religion with "one true God" to try to calm the tribal wars. There is an excellent documentary on this (mostly Iranian produced) either from PBS or National Geographic (I don't remember which and maybe it was both) on DVD. Ingegerd wrote: >The start of the cartoons - was that someone wanted some pictures >for a book for children, explaining also about the Prophet. >According to Walid al-Kubaisi, a writer, some parts of the Muslim >World allow cartoon about the Prophet, some not. A cartoon of the >Prophet was printed in an Iranian Newspaper in June 2001, showing a >feminine Prophet. No reaction at all. This is not only Religion, it >is a mix of Politic and Relegion, special in countries where the >Relegion govern the Politic. Denmark and Norway is small countries - >and weak military - so it is very easy to threaten us. Norways has >4.5 million people - the Muslims 1 milliard. David against Goliat. >Ingegerd >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" >>wrote: >> >> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB >>>wrote: >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu >wrote: > > >The cartoons were first published in September so why are > > >they > > >rioting now? Maybe it *is* staged: > > > >http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/danish_muslim_riots_staged_psyop.htm > > >CIA business as usual? > > That is the general consensus in the French papers, that the whole thing is being staged as a part of the US selling the world another war, this time against Iran. >>>That could very well be. It also occurs to me that after you've >>>bombed, shot, assassinated, tortured and jailed a culture long >>>enough, it doesn't take much more to set them off. >>> >>> >>You bet. And as I understand it, now it's not so much >>about the cartoons themselves as the callous response to >>the original, much more restrained complaints about the >>cartoons. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >To subscribe, send a message to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Or go to: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ >and click 'Join This Group!' >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: >> > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > Judy Stein, Democratic Party apologist. Shemp McGurk, master of the non sequitur. > Fact is that Robert Kennedy was one of the counsels for Joe > McCarthy and HUAC...and a very agressive one, to boot. Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm only going to talk to you just for a minute or so this evening, because I have some very sad news for all of you - - Could you lower those signs, please? -- I have some very sad news for all of you, and, I think, sad news for all of our fellow citizens, and people who love peace all over the world; and that is that Martin Luther King was shot and was killed tonight in Memphis, Tennessee. Martin Luther King dedicated his life to love and to justice between fellow human beings. He died in the cause of that effort. In this difficult day, in this difficult time for the United States, it's perhaps well to ask what kind of a nation we are and what direction we want to move in. For those of you who are black -- considering the evidence evidently is that there were white people who were responsible -- you can be filled with bitterness, and with hatred, and a desire for revenge. We can move in that direction as a country, in greater polarization -- black people amongst blacks, and white amongst whites, filled with hatred toward one another. Or we can make an effort, as Martin Luther King did, to understand, and to comprehend, and replace that violence, that stain of bloodshed that has spread across our land, with an effort to understand, compassion and love. For those of you who are black and are tempted to be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling. I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man. But we have to make an effort in the United States, we have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times. My favorite poem, my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote: "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God." What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. So I ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King -- yeah, it's true -- but more importantly to say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love -- a prayer for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke. We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past. And we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder. But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land. Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people. Thank you very much. --Robert F. Kennedy, April 4, 1968, Indianapolis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 1:12 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? >>> >>> My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not >>> only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat >>> eggs either... >> >> Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is >> enough." > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." I think he stole that line from Jerry Jarvis. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > >> > > >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > > > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > > > eggs either... > > > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > > enough." > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging > his female patients and molesting them, so you may not > want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) > He should have injected her with eggs, then, because she would have obviously forgotten what went on... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
Yusaf Isa allegedly lived to a ripe old age and is buried at Srinagar in Kashmir, in the middle of the old town of Anzimar, in the Khanyar quarter. There was a really interesting documentary:- www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/did-jesus-die- interview.shtml Another useful link is:- http://www.tombofjesus.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 12:44 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > wrote: > >> > >> Jesus is said to have travelled to India mainly along the 'Hippie > >> trail', but perhaps by boat on an earlier occasion - apparently it > >> was relatively easy to travel there by this method in those days. > >> 'Jesus Lived in India' also lights on some other interesting > >> subjects too, namely the place of the Turin Shroud in the story of > >> Jesus (the contention is that it is authentic, but that because it > >> seems to prove Jesus was still alive when wrapped in the shroud, > > it > >> has been deemed a fake - the author has supplied a lot of > > compelling > >> evidence). Also the topic of the 'Promised Land' is raised, > > offering > >> Kashmir as the location of at least some of the 'Lost Tribes'. > > > > > > > > > > When I was in Kashmir in '81 or '82 (can't remember the exact year) > > on a TM month-long course, the locals there claimed that Jesus not > > only visited Kashmir but that he was buried there. > > So how and where do they believe he died? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/9/06 12:44 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > wrote: > >> > >> Jesus is said to have travelled to India mainly along the 'Hippie > >> trail', but perhaps by boat on an earlier occasion - apparently it > >> was relatively easy to travel there by this method in those days. > >> 'Jesus Lived in India' also lights on some other interesting > >> subjects too, namely the place of the Turin Shroud in the story of > >> Jesus (the contention is that it is authentic, but that because it > >> seems to prove Jesus was still alive when wrapped in the shroud, > > it > >> has been deemed a fake - the author has supplied a lot of > > compelling > >> evidence). Also the topic of the 'Promised Land' is raised, > > offering > >> Kashmir as the location of at least some of the 'Lost Tribes'. > > > > > > > > > > When I was in Kashmir in '81 or '82 (can't remember the exact year) > > on a TM month-long course, the locals there claimed that Jesus not > > only visited Kashmir but that he was buried there. > > So how and where do they believe he died? > I didn't ask that much so I don't know...but if I were interested, I was told, the kind gentleman would take me for a tour to the place in Srinegar where Jesus was buried. Of course, a gratuity of a certain amount of rupees would be implicitly understood... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > > eggs either... > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > enough." My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging his female patients and molesting them, so you may not want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now > > > > where because of age the focal length of my vision is such > > > > that I can read my computer screen perfectly, but can't > > > > easily read books. > > > > > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this > > > same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained > > > it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at > > > least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As > > > you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow > > > "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. > > > In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a > > > few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem > > > went away. > > > > > > Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an > > > environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses > > > don't help if the issue is needing more light. For > > > example, I've grown used to having to have my date read > > > the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool > > > I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just > > > splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken > > > her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) > > > > Right, its the light too- which is one reason I can read a > > computer screen more easily...no big deal... > > You might also want to look into the sharpness and > the flicker rate of the computer screen itself. I > had a bad monitor at work for a while, an old-style > CRT monitor. What I'd notice that was on the Metro > going to work, I could read a book easily, but on > the way home, after looking at the monitor all day, > I couldn't even focus on the page. Finally I put > two and two together and asked for a different > monitor. Poof! The problem went away completely. I had lasik surgury about a year and a half ago and afte wearing glasses for near-sightedness for 35 years I no longer wear glasses (except, of course, for reading). But I find that after staring at my computer monitor for 1 or 2 hours and then I go out driving (especially at night) that I find it hard to adjust. I have been told that while I am at the computer it is a good idea to take my eyes off the screen every 5 or 10 minutes and for a few seconds look off into the distance and focus on a far- off object. > > None of these suggestions may be relevant to your > situation, but I'm just bringing them up because > I spent a couple of years avoiding reading because > it was no longer comfortable. Then I figured out > that I didn't have to. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1) Why do you assume I was being critical of Canada? Maybe I like > teenage girls and find it appealing that I could go there and fiddle > about legally when I would be locked up doing the same in the US of > A. OK > 2)Like a typical self-centered American, you think that the world > revolves around the US and don't even consider for a second that the > person you are addressing is NOT an American...which I'm not. > > I'm a citizen of Canada. OK. No, not a self centered American- just figured that this message board is in the US and so am I, therefore... But, you've corrected me, so now I know. Thanks > > > > > > > Granted nobody is perfect, and yet what this country is doing is > so > > horrible, so irredeemable, that other countries' behaviors truly > > pale in comparison. > > > > So, in my opinion, we should first get our own house in order > before > > pointing out the errors of others. > > > > ...must be a Sat Yuga thang...;) > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > > > Well said. Seriously, you might give "Lamb," by Christopher > > > Moore a shot. There is more of who/what the real Christ > > > might have been in that book than in the entire Bible. > > > > > Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now where > > because of age the focal length of my vision is such that I can > > read my computer screen perfectly, but can't easily read books. > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this > same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained > it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at > least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As > you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow > "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. > In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a > few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem > went away. > > Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an > environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses > don't help if the issue is needing more light. For > example, I've grown used to having to have my date read > the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool > I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just > splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken > her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) > Even more embarrassing if you live in Canada and if your date is 14 and you can legally have sexual relations with her but she is not legally old enough to order drinks... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > In Canada, you can have sex with a 14-year-old... > > > > > > > Yeah, just like getting married at 14 in Iowa, South Carolina, > and > > > Connecticut with parental consent... > > > > > > And is that actually *worse* than waging war on people? Please > deny > > > that all kinds of atrocities, torture and rape are *not* > occuring in > > > Iraq... oh...right...just for the "suspected terrorists"... > > > > > > > Huh? > > > > What's the logic of the segueway from age of consent to war? > > > Personally, as an American, I find that waging unprovoked war on > others to be so evil and corrupting an influence on the world, that > these days it is damned hard to point fingers at any other country. 1) Why do you assume I was being critical of Canada? Maybe I like teenage girls and find it appealing that I could go there and fiddle about legally when I would be locked up doing the same in the US of A. 2)Like a typical self-centered American, you think that the world revolves around the US and don't even consider for a second that the person you are addressing is NOT an American...which I'm not. I'm a citizen of Canada. > > Granted nobody is perfect, and yet what this country is doing is so > horrible, so irredeemable, that other countries' behaviors truly > pale in comparison. > > So, in my opinion, we should first get our own house in order before > pointing out the errors of others. > > ...must be a Sat Yuga thang...;) > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? > > My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not > only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat > eggs either... Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is enough." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 12:44 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Jesus is said to have travelled to India mainly along the 'Hippie >> trail', but perhaps by boat on an earlier occasion - apparently it >> was relatively easy to travel there by this method in those days. >> 'Jesus Lived in India' also lights on some other interesting >> subjects too, namely the place of the Turin Shroud in the story of >> Jesus (the contention is that it is authentic, but that because it >> seems to prove Jesus was still alive when wrapped in the shroud, > it >> has been deemed a fake - the author has supplied a lot of > compelling >> evidence). Also the topic of the 'Promised Land' is raised, > offering >> Kashmir as the location of at least some of the 'Lost Tribes'. > > > > > When I was in Kashmir in '81 or '82 (can't remember the exact year) > on a TM month-long course, the locals there claimed that Jesus not > only visited Kashmir but that he was buried there. So how and where do they believe he died? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
on 2/9/06 12:46 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" >> wrote: >>> >>> --- Vaj wrote: Once I found out the claims that [MMY] only slept a couple of hours a day were a lie, why should I believe anything else? >>> >>> Rick, you worked around Maharishi. What were his >>> sleep patterns? >>> >> >> How would Rick or anyone else know? Did someone monitor his EEG or > REM? >> > > If you're asking Rick, he probably knew because he would ask the > babes who exited his room in the mornings what his sleep patterns > were... I was never "on the door," so I didn't monitor the coming and going of the babes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to manufacture a > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here denounce > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread seriously > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the country of > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical thinking is being > applied very unevenly. Gosh. Applying one standard for a current historical figures who is still alive and can, if he chooses to, correct the record and another one who has been dead for 2,000 years. How unfair. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of accepting > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out there > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > However I did have to chuckle when Jimmy Carter tried to take > > > > a poke at Bush when he referred to illegal wire tapings and > > > > spying on of citizens Martin Luther King and wife. What was so > > > > funny was Ted Kennedy was sitting not 30 feet from Carter and > > > > it was John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy that ordered the wire > > > > taps on the Kings. > > > > > > > > OOOPs! Who was Jimmy trying to embarres? > > > > > > > You've just "embarressed" yourself. Here's the Church > > > Commission report on the wiretapping of Dr. King: > > > > > > http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > * > > > > From the link you cite, Robert Kennedy did approve wiretaps on > > King, although the FBI went further than Kennedy had in mind, > > evidently: > > That's the understatement of the month. > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > Americans, is really hard to figure. Of course, it is good ethics not to visit the sins of the father or brother upon the son or brother. But, of course, Teddy is only a senator in the first place because of his family connections, so it is fair game in the eyes of those who place importance upon familial connections. > > > > > > http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm > > > > IV. ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THE > > SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE > > Introduction and Summary > > > > In October 1963, Attorney General Robert Kennedy approved an FBI > > request for permission to install wiretaps on phones in Dr. King's > > home and in the SCLC's New York and Atlanta offices to determine > the > > extent, if any, of "communist influence in the racial situation." > > The FBI construed this authorization to extend to Dr. King's hotel > > rooms and the home of a friend. No further authorization was sought > > until mid-1965, after Attorney General Katzenbach required the FBI > > for the first time to seek renewed authorization for all existing > > wiretaps. The wiretaps on Dr. King's home were apparently > terminated > > at that time by Attorney General Katzenbach; the SCLC wiretaps were > > terminated by Attorney General Ramsay Clark in June 1966. > > > > In December, 1963 -- three months after Attorney General Kennedy > > approved the wiretaps -- the FBI, without informing the Attorney > > General, planned and implemented a secret effort to discredit Dr. > > King and to "neutralize" him as the leader of the civil rights > > movement. One of the first steps in this effort involved hiding > > microphones in Dr. King's hotel rooms. Those microphones were > > installed without Attorney General Kennedy's prior authorization or > > subsequent notification, neither of which were required under > > practices then current. The FBI continued to place microphones in > > Dr. King's hotel rooms until November 1965. Attorney General > > Katzenbach was apparently notified immediately after the fact of > the > > placement of three microphones between May and November 1965. It is > > not clear why the FBI stopped its microphone surveillance of Dr. > > King, although its decision may have been related to concern about > > public exposure during the Long Committee's investigation of > > electronic surveillance. > > > > This chapter examines the legal basis for the wiretaps and > > microphones, the evidence surrounding the motives for their use, > and > > the degree to which Justice Department and White House officials > > were aware of the FBI's electronic surveillance of Dr. King. > > > > A. Legal Standards Governing the FBI's Duty to Inform the Justice > > Department of Wiretaps and Microphones During the Period of the > > Martin Luther King Investigation > > > > The FBI's use of wiretaps and microphones to follow Dr. King's > > activities must be examined in light of the accepted legal > standards > > and practices of the time. Before March 1965, the FBI followed > > different procedures for the authorization of wiretaps and > > microphones. Wiretaps required the approval of the Attorney General > > in advance. However, once the Attorney General had authorized the > > FBI to initiate wiretap coverage of a subject, the Bureau generally > > continued the wiretap fo
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > However I did have to chuckle when Jimmy Carter tried to take > > > > a poke at Bush when he referred to illegal wire tapings and > > > > spying on of citizens Martin Luther King and wife. What was so > > > > funny was Ted Kennedy was sitting not 30 feet from Carter and > > > > it was John Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy that ordered the wire > > > > taps on the Kings. > > > > > > > > OOOPs! Who was Jimmy trying to embarres? > > > > > > > You've just "embarressed" yourself. Here's the Church > > > Commission report on the wiretapping of Dr. King: > > > > > > http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > * > > > > From the link you cite, Robert Kennedy did approve wiretaps on > > King, although the FBI went further than Kennedy had in mind, > > evidently: > > That's the understatement of the month. > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. Judy Stein, Democratic Party apologist. Fact is that Robert Kennedy was one of the counsels for Joe McCarthy and HUAC...and a very agressive one, to boot. Indeed, if you look closely at George Clooney's movie "Good Night and Good Luck" in the segments in which he uses actual footage from the hearings you will see RFK sitting right up there on the committee dias 3 or 4 seats down from McCarthy. Of course, Clooney doesn't dwell on this fact or mention it as he much prefers to concentrate on the involvement of those with the assumed evil reputation of right-wingism such as Ray Cohn...and you have to look very closely to see RFK there...I believe it is because it is not politically correct to show a Kennedy on the side of McCarthy. Another reality: when the U.S. Senate voted to censure McCarthy, only one Senator refused to vote for the censure. His name? John F. Kennedy, who was one of McCarthy's best friends... > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > > > http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm > > > > IV. ELECTRONIC SURVEILLANCE OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THE > > SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE > > Introduction and Summary > > > > In October 1963, Attorney General Robert Kennedy approved an FBI > > request for permission to install wiretaps on phones in Dr. King's > > home and in the SCLC's New York and Atlanta offices to determine > the > > extent, if any, of "communist influence in the racial situation." > > The FBI construed this authorization to extend to Dr. King's hotel > > rooms and the home of a friend. No further authorization was sought > > until mid-1965, after Attorney General Katzenbach required the FBI > > for the first time to seek renewed authorization for all existing > > wiretaps. The wiretaps on Dr. King's home were apparently > terminated > > at that time by Attorney General Katzenbach; the SCLC wiretaps were > > terminated by Attorney General Ramsay Clark in June 1966. > > > > In December, 1963 -- three months after Attorney General Kennedy > > approved the wiretaps -- the FBI, without informing the Attorney > > General, planned and implemented a secret effort to discredit Dr. > > King and to "neutralize" him as the leader of the civil rights > > movement. One of the first steps in this effort involved hiding > > microphones in Dr. King's hotel rooms. Those microphones were > > installed without Attorney General Kennedy's prior authorization or > > subsequent notification, neither of which were required under > > practices then current. The FBI continued to place microphones in > > Dr. King's hotel rooms until November 1965. Attorney General > > Katzenbach was apparently notified immediately after the fact of > the > > placement of three microphones between May and November 1965. It is > > not clear why the FBI stopped its microphone surveillance of Dr. > > King, although its decision may have been related to concern about > > public exposure during the Long Committee's investigation of > > electronic surveillance. > > > > This chapter examines the legal basis for the wiretaps and > > microphones, the evidence surrounding the motives for their use, > and > > the degree to which Justice Department and White House officials > > were aware of the FBI's electronic surveillance of Dr. King. > > > > A. Legal Standards Governing the FBI's Duty to In
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > wrote: > > > > --- Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Once I found out the claims that [MMY] only > > > slept a couple of hours a day were a lie, why > > > should I believe anything else? > > > > Rick, you worked around Maharishi. What were his > > sleep patterns? > > > > How would Rick or anyone else know? Did someone monitor his EEG or REM? > If you're asking Rick, he probably knew because he would ask the babes who exited his room in the mornings what his sleep patterns were... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting point--has M. ever submitted to an EEG? My understanding is that MMY is a strict vegetarian which means not only does he not eat meat, chicken or fish but that he doesn't eat eggs either... > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 6:27 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> --- Vaj wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Once I found out the claims that [MMY] only > >>> slept a couple of hours a day were a lie, why > >>> should I believe anything else? > >>> > >> > >> Rick, you worked around Maharishi. What were his > >> sleep patterns? > >> > >> > > > > How would Rick or anyone else know? Did someone monitor his EEG or > > REM? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jesus is said to have travelled to India mainly along the 'Hippie > trail', but perhaps by boat on an earlier occasion - apparently it > was relatively easy to travel there by this method in those days. > 'Jesus Lived in India' also lights on some other interesting > subjects too, namely the place of the Turin Shroud in the story of > Jesus (the contention is that it is authentic, but that because it > seems to prove Jesus was still alive when wrapped in the shroud, it > has been deemed a fake - the author has supplied a lot of compelling > evidence). Also the topic of the 'Promised Land' is raised, offering > Kashmir as the location of at least some of the 'Lost Tribes'. When I was in Kashmir in '81 or '82 (can't remember the exact year) on a TM month-long course, the locals there claimed that Jesus not only visited Kashmir but that he was buried there. > > Also related to the story of Jesus is the legendary assertion that > Jesus visited England with his uncle, who came here on business. He > is supposed to have landed at what is now called St. Michaels Mount, > near Penzance in Cornwall and travelled up to Glastonbury (no, not to > the festival - it has not been going THAT long). > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > Holger Kersten's most interesting book 'Jesus Lived In India' > > > about 'His Unknown Life Before and After the Crucifixion' seems > to > > > suggest that Jesus was heavilly influenced by Buddhist teachings > > and > > > that he might have spent some of his formative years in India. > > > > > > Did he go via Mexico? Or by land via Iraq, Pakistan, etc.? > > > > 'Cause the Mormons believe he went to the Americas... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > I did TM for 30 years solely because I had heard that MMY > didn't > > > sleep much. > > > > Before that, I was a Christian. But when I heard that Jesus > > wasn't > > > even a > > > > college graduate, that was the end of it for me. > > > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That loud noise you hear in the background is the sound of > > > illusions > > > > > crashing. > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I believe it was Rick who quoted an old secretary > > who > > > said > > > > > > he slept normal hours (i.e. 6-8 hours a night). > > > > > > > > > > > > Several people on the list were quite upset by that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] tattvamasi
tat tvam asi || tattvam asi
1 tattva n. true or real state , truth , reality S3vetUp. Mn. Bhag.
&c. ; (in phil.) a true principle (in Sa1m2khya phil. 25 in number ,
viz. %{a-vyakta} , %{buddhi} , %{ahaM-kAra} , the 5 Tan-ma1tras , the
5 Maha1-bhu1tas , the 11 organs including %{manas} , and , lastly , %
{puruSa} , qq.vv.) MBh. xii , 11840 ; xiv , 984 R. iii , 53 , 42
Tattvas. ; 24 in number MBh. xii , 11242 Hariv. 14840 (m.) ; 23 in
number BhP. iii , 6 , 2 ff. ; for other numbers cf. xi , 22 , 1 ff.
Ra1matUp. ; with Ma1hes3varas and Loka7yatikas only 5 [viz. the 5
elements] are admitted Prab. ii , 18/19 ; with Buddh. 4 , with Jainas
2 or 5 or 7 or 9 Sarvad. ii f. ; in Veda7nta phil. %{tattva} is
regarded as made up of %{tad} and %{tvam} , `" that [art] thou "' ,
and called %{mahA-vAkya} , the great word by which the identity of
the whole world with the one eternal Brahma [%{tad}] is expressed) ;
the , number 25 Su1ryas. ii ; the number 24 DevibhP. S3Br. vii , 3 ,
1 , 43 Sa1y. ; an element or elementary property W. ; the essence or
substance of anything W. [433,1] ; the being that Jaim. i , 3 , 24
Sch. ; = %{tata-tva} L. ; N. of a musical instrument L. ; (%{ena})
instr. ind. according to the true state or nature of anything , in
truth , truly , really , accurately Mn. vii , 68 MBh. R. ; %{-
kaumudI} f. `" Tattva-moonlight "'N. of a Comm. on Sa1m2khyak.
Sarvad. xiv , 20 ; %{-candra} m. `" truthmoon "'N. of a Comm. on
Prakriya1-kaumudi1 ; `" Tattva-moon "'N. of a Comm. on %{-kaumudI} ; %
{-cintAmaNi} m. N. of a philos. work by Gan3ge7s3a ; of another work
Nirn2ayas. iii ; %{-jJa} mfn. ifc. knowing the truth , knowing the
true nature of , knowing thoroughly Mn.xii , 102 MBh. (%{a-} neg. ,
xii , 6623) R. &c. ; m. a Bra1hman Npr. ; %{-jJAna} n. knowledge of
truth , thorough knowledge , insight into the true principles of
phil. Sarvad. ; %{-jJAnin} mfn. = %{-jJa} W. ; %{-taraMgiNI} f. `"
truth-river "'N. of wk. by Dharmasa1gara ; %{-tas} ind.= %{-ttvena}
Mun2d2Up. i , 2 , 13 Mn. MBh. &c. ; %{-tA} f. truth , reality W. ; %{-
tyaj} mfn. mistaking the true state Viddh. iii , 19 ; %{-trayamaya}
mfn. consisting of the 3 realities Hcat. i , 11 , 893 ; %{-darza} m.
(= %{-dRz}) N. of a R2ishi under Manu Deva-sa1varn2i BhP. viii , 13 ,
32 ; %{-darzin} mfn. = %{-dRz} MBh. iii , 1149 Ra1mag. ; m. N. of one
of Manu Raivata's sons Hariv. 433 ; of a Bra1hman , 1265 ; %{-dIpana}
n. `" Tattva-light "'N. of wk. ; %{-dRz} mfn. perceiving truth
Veda7ntas. ; %{-nikaSa-grAvan} m. the touchstone of truth Hit. i ,
9 , 12 ; %{-nizcaya} m. `" ascertainment of truth "' , right
knowledge Sarvad. vi , 91 and 94 ; %{-niSThatA} f. veracity Hemac. ; %
{-nyAsa} m. `" application of true principles "'N. of a ceremony in
honour of Vishn2u (application of mystical letters &c. to parts of
the body while prayers are recited) , Tantr. ; %{-prakAza} m. `"
light of true principles "'N. of a Comm. Sarvad. vii ; %{-prabodha-
prakaraNa} n. N. of wk. by Haribhadra II (A.D. 1200) ; %{-bindu} m.
`" truthdrop "'N. of a philos. treatise ; %{-bodha} m. knowledge or
understanding of truth , xii , 46 ; N. of wk. Tantras. ii ; %{-
bodhinI} f. `" teaching true principles "'N. of a Comm. on Sam2kshepa-
s3a1ri1raka ; of a Comm. on Siddh. by Jn5a1ne7ndra-sarasvati1 ; truth-
teaching cf. RTL. p. 492 and 509 ; %{-bhava} m. true being or nature
Kat2hUp. vi S3vetUp. i ; %{-bhUta} mfn. true MBh. xii , 5290 ; %{-
muktA7vali} f. `" necklace of truth "'N. of wk. Sarvad. iv , 110 ;
cf. RTL. p. 123 ; %{-vat} mfn. possessing the truth or reality of
things MBh. xii , 11480 ; %{-vAda-rahasya} n. N. of wk. Sarvad. v ,
110 ; %{-vid} mfn. knowing the true nature of(gen.) Bhag. iii , 28 ; %
{-vivitsA} f. desire of knowing the truth W. ; %{-viveka} m. the
sifting of established truth ; N. of wk. on astron. (also %
{siddhA7nta-t-}) ; of another work Sarvad. v , 6 ; %{-ka-dIpana} n.
`" light of truth-investigation "'N. of a philos. work ; %{-zambara}
n. N. of a Tantra A1nand. 31 Sch. ; (%{-raka} , A1ryav.) ; %{-zuddhi}
f. ascertainment or right knowledge of truth Katha1s. lxxv , 194 ; %{-
saMgraha} m. N. of wk. Sarvad. vii , 88 ; %{-satya-zAstra} n. N. of a
Buddh. work by Gun2aprabha ; %{-samAsa} m. `" Tattva-compendium "'N.
of Kapila's Sa1m2khya-su1tras Tattvas. ; %{-sAgara} m. `" truth-
ocean "'N. of wk. Smr2itit. xi Nirn2ayas. i , 318 ; %{-sAra} m. `"
truth-essence "'N. of wk. S3a1kta7n. ii ; %{-vA7khyAno7pamA} f. a
simile expressing or stating any truth Ka1vya7d. ii , 36 ; %{-
vA7dhigata} mfn. learnt thoroughly Sus3r. ; %{-vA7pahnava-rUpaka} n.
a metaphor denying a truth (as that two eyes are not eyes but bees)
Ka1vya7d. ii , 95 ; %{-vA7bhiyoga} m. a positive charge or
declaration Ya1jn5. ii , 5/6 , 4 ff. ; %{-vA7rtha} m. the truth
Sarvad. iii ; %{-tha-kaumudI} f. `" truth-light "'N. of a Comm. on
Pra1yas3c. by (Govinda7nanda ; %{-tha-vid} mfn. knowing the exact
truth or meaning of (in comp.) Mn.i , 3 ; (see %{veda-}) ; %{-th
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now > > > > where because of age the focal length of my vision is such > > > > that I can read my computer screen perfectly, but can't > > > > easily read books. > > > > > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this > > > same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained > > > it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at > > > least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As > > > you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow > > > "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. > > > In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a > > > few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem > > > went away. > > > > > > Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an > > > environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses > > > don't help if the issue is needing more light. For > > > example, I've grown used to having to have my date read > > > the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool > > > I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just > > > splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken > > > her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) > > > > Right, its the light too- which is one reason I can read a > > computer screen more easily...no big deal... > > You might also want to look into the sharpness and > the flicker rate of the computer screen itself. I > had a bad monitor at work for a while, an old-style > CRT monitor. What I'd notice that was on the Metro > going to work, I could read a book easily, but on > the way home, after looking at the monitor all day, > I couldn't even focus on the page. Finally I put > two and two together and asked for a different > monitor. Poof! The problem went away completely. > > None of these suggestions may be relevant to your > situation, but I'm just bringing them up because > I spent a couple of years avoiding reading because > it was no longer comfortable. Then I figured out > that I didn't have to. > Yep, thanks for all of this. Fortunately my greater difficulty with reading has coincided nicely with my lack of interest in books...Funny, because at first I thought something was wrong. Then I realized it wasn't. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
> > > Cool. I will keep it in mind. I'm in a transition period now > > > where because of age the focal length of my vision is such > > > that I can read my computer screen perfectly, but can't > > > easily read books. > > > > Tell me about it. I suffered -- needlessly -- with this > > same thing for quite a while, until an eye doctor explained > > it to me and told me how to get around it. The issue, at > > least for me, was *light*, not sharpness of vision. As > > you get older, the rods and cones in your eyes grow > > "tired," and don't respond as well to low levels of light. > > In my case, at my optometrist's suggestion, I bought a > > few extremely bright halogen lamps, and poof! the problem > > went away. > > > > Where this issue is the biggest problem for me is in an > > environment where I can't control the lighting. Glasses > > don't help if the issue is needing more light. For > > example, I've grown used to having to have my date read > > the dinner bill for me in dimly-lit restaurants. Cool > > I guess if it's an expensive restaurant and I've just > > splurged on dinner, but a bit embarrassing if I've taken > > her to one of my favorite bargain joints. :-) > > Right, its the light too- which is one reason I can read a > computer screen more easily...no big deal... You might also want to look into the sharpness and the flicker rate of the computer screen itself. I had a bad monitor at work for a while, an old-style CRT monitor. What I'd notice that was on the Metro going to work, I could read a book easily, but on the way home, after looking at the monitor all day, I couldn't even focus on the page. Finally I put two and two together and asked for a different monitor. Poof! The problem went away completely. None of these suggestions may be relevant to your situation, but I'm just bringing them up because I spent a couple of years avoiding reading because it was no longer comfortable. Then I figured out that I didn't have to. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
The relationship between the threads on Jesus and MMY concern where they learned their 'teaching'. So it is a misperception if 'It seems that critical thinking is being applied very unevenly'. Perhaps instead of indulging this viewpoint, you might return some useful information regarding the learning years of either or both of these men? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting that at the same time as people on this board try to manufacture a > big scandal about MMY's education and sleep patterns, and here denounce > the "myth" that has grown up about such things, another thread seriously > discusses the myth that Jesus traveled to India (or name the country of > choice) as it it were probably true. It seems that critical thinking is being > applied very unevenly. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > ? WHo says he did or did not? How would they know? > > > > Close proximity, maybe snoring. > > > > It's really just one of many many myths fostered by uncritical > > acceptance. What's interesting to me is the pattern of accepting > > claims as automatically true. Bottom line is charlatans are out there > > and both have the same name: "teacher". > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Steaming Hot Cup O Jihad with that Danish?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > wrote: > > > > The start of the cartoons - was that someone wanted some pictures > > for a book for children, explaining also about the Prophet. > > According to Walid al-Kubaisi, a writer, some parts of the Muslim > > World allow cartoon about the Prophet, some not. A cartoon of the > > Prophet was printed in an Iranian Newspaper in June 2001, showing > a > > feminine Prophet. No reaction at all. This is not only Religion, > it > > is a mix of Politic and Relegion, special in countries where the > > Relegion govern the Politic. Denmark and Norway is small > countries - > > and weak military - so it is very easy to threaten us. Norways has > > 4.5 million people - the Muslims 1 milliard. > > > > > > > > We call 1 milliard 1 billion. (i.e. 1,000,000,000) > Thank you for correction. I think the right number is 1.3 billions Ingegerd> > > > > David against Goliat. > > Ingegerd > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The cartoons were first published in September so why are > > they > > > > > > rioting now? Maybe it *is* staged: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://infowars.com/articles/ww3/danish_muslim_riots_staged_psyop.htm > > > > > > CIA business as usual? > > > > > > > > > > That is the general consensus in the French papers, > > > > > that the whole thing is being staged as a part of > > > > > the US selling the world another war, this time > > > > > against Iran. > > > > > > > > That could very well be. It also occurs to me that after > you've > > > > bombed, shot, assassinated, tortured and jailed a culture long > > > > enough, it doesn't take much more to set them off. > > > > > > You bet. And as I understand it, now it's not so much > > > about the cartoons themselves as the callous response to > > > the original, much more restrained complaints about the > > > cartoons. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
