[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've been on the receiving end of questions from reporters a lot, I take it? Actually, yes I have. You forget who I studied with for years, and with whom I taught meditation in the US and in Europe. Rama was portrayed as a cult leader, and we as cultists (and there was some truth in that, although not the whole truth). So I got to deal with reporters a great *deal*, thank you. One never wins by insulting them and getting them even more confrontational. The only thing that wins in that case is a bruised ego, which gets bigger. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_on_you_i_piss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: Freeze time at just the moment before Maharishi came into the lives of the Beatles and extrapolate from there: where would they and their music have been without the creative influence MMY had on them? The white alblum would have had much less drivel and crap and would have relected a surging extrapolation of the inventiveness and joy of Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper? Well said. Never has a less interesting album received more praise. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Vegetable Subscription Program Offered Sign up and you become a vegetable? That's new? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Recent Interviews'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such a cynic. Such a realist. On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/19/06 3:46:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maharishi predicted that within six months or so, the effect would become visible to the press. Boy, does this sound familiar. No he's just counting on everybody to have forgotten what he said in about six months. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Recent Interviews'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Such a cynic. Such a realist. As a case in point, wasn't it about six months ago that Maharishi announced that Sat Yuga had begun? Do you hear many people talking about how beautiful life is in Sat Yuga lately, or are they talking about the Next Big Thing? :-) To balance this, I think that, as a result of bom- bardment by a media that teaches ephemerality and a sense that the only thing that really matters is what is said today, *most* people on the planet have lost their ability to remember past predictions by politicians and spiritual leaders. It's just that this phenomenon is more pronounced in people who have a vested *interest* in forgeting past predictions that didn't work out. The more of them they forget, the more infallible Maharishi seems. On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:32 PM, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 3/19/06 3:46:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, ffl@ writes: Maharishi predicted that within six months or so, the effect would become visible to the press. Boy, does this sound familiar. No he's just counting on everybody to have forgotten what he said in about six months. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: for Judy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, bearing in mind the year of your birth and the recent Beatles discussion, are you planning to rent a cottage in the Isle of Wight this summer? And with whom, I wonder? I have *no* idea what you're talking about! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Recent Interviews'
On Mar 20, 2006, at 3:26 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@> > wrote: > > > > Such a cynic. > > Such a realist. As a case in point, wasn't it about six months ago that Maharishi announced that Sat Yuga had begun? I thought he did that pretty much every six months. Do you hear many people talking about how beautiful life is in Sat Yuga lately, or are they talking about the Next Big Thing? :-) To balance this, I think that, as a result of bom- bardment by a media that teaches ephemerality and a sense that the only thing that really matters is what is said today, *most* people on the planet have lost their ability to remember past predictions by politicians and spiritual leaders. I thought that was primarily an American phenomenon--maybe not. I'd hate to think people in other countries have become as apparently stupid as we have over here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is mum computer professional program good
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rajbgp2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I AM FINDING IT REALLY HARD TO GET FACTS ABOUT MUM computer professional program from outside MUM website. i think probably this website belongs to people very close to university. Any feedback will be of great help before I take any decision. thanks MUM only accepts about one out of every 30 applicants for the CompSci program, which heavy screening just about guarantees that you will get a job at market rates in the U.S., especially now that the IT job market is OK (in the unlikely event you don't get a job, MUM does not require repayment of the education loan): http://tinyurl.com/l2eg3 Academic quality should be high, since there are lots of computer people in the TM movement, and I have never heard any complaints about the quality of instruction in the Comp Sci dept. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_on_you_i_piss no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/19/06 12:47 AM, peterklutz at peterklutz@ wrote: I think the question is how would the Beatles have done without Maharishi? They were already doing great before him. Strange question. Freeze time at just the moment before Maharishi came into the lives of the Beatles and extrapolate from there: where would they and their music have been without the creative influence MMY had on them? The white alblum would have had much less drivel and crap and would have relected a surging extrapolation of the inventiveness and joy of Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sgt. Pepper? We have to remember also, that in that year of 1968, I believe the Beatles were with Maharishi, starting in February of that year. But those times in '68, were quite violent...Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy both assasinated. It was a turning point time, that year...There were many riots both racial, and the tide against the Viet Nam war was increasing immensely. The explosive riots in Chicago at the Democratic Convention. So, the White Album, reflected those times: 'Helter-Skelter' So, sometimes chaos does get the upper hand, and people do get off the path. After all the 'boys' were only in their twenties in the '60's. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi says must get into vastu otherwise you won't know from what corner the disease will come. You should move as if your house is on fire. I don't know if anyone else finds this revealing, but I sure do. This is the word from the guy who has been afraid to leave his two rooms for...how many years is it now?...since his heart attack? I repeat my theory -- the emphasis on S-V is a shut-in phenomenon, the brainchild of someone who never leaves his house, and thus has become obsessed with the effect that the house has on him. He has turned his personal agoraphobia (which ironically means fear of the market- place) into the next TM marketing product. All I can say is that, judging by the latest press conference, living in a S-V house doesn't seem to do much for one's ability to deal with other human beings in a non-confrontational and non-insulting manner. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Anti war Rally draws thousands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Those pro-war shouldn't waste their time protesting. They should en masse head for the nearest recruiting station and enlist, in the infantry. Thats an interesting perspective. Do you feel that the underlying principal should apply to all wars, or just this one? Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? (In vietnam era, many felt this was true). Not equivalent. We're short on recruits, and the troops in Iraq are exhausted. Even a single new recruit helps the war effort a little. I am sorry, I don't follow your logic. We're short on recruits so blocking troop trains and planes (or something more creative) will not slow the war effort? One single individual going to jail in protest is not going to impede the war effort in the slightest. Ghandi and MLK would disagree by example. And as far going to jail, I am surprised at your argument. A growing number of people going to jail, as in vietnam and civil rights movement would have an effect, IMO. A growing number starts with the commitment of individuals. But all of this skirts the issue. I asked, Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? If my example is weak, perhaps you can pose a better example of Should the reverse be true Those who are pro-war can be successful directly in proportion to their numbers if they enlist. I am not sure of this logic. Many predict troop drawdowns by summer -- during congressional campaigns. Those who are antiwar can be successful *only* if their numbers are massive (e.g., enough to elect an antiwar president). As in every congressional election, individuals, can make big a difference. A small group of dedicated individuals can create alarge impact. Massive not required. Though nice, and why not massive? Judy, keep your puppy-chow close by for this one ;) Jim, by your comment I assume you disagree with my analysis but some how can't come up with a cogent arguement to enlighten us as to why, resorting to apparently snide remarks. Which points do you specifically disagree with? 1) Ghandi and MLK would disagree by example that a single individual going to jail will not make a difference. 2) A growing number of people going to jail, as in vietnam and civil rights movement would have an effect, IMO. A growing number starts with the commitment of individuals. 3) Many predict troop drawdowns by summer -- during congressional campaigns. 4) As in every congressional election, individuals, can make big a difference. 5) A small group of dedicated individuals can create a large impact. 6) Massive not required. Though nice, and why not massive? Each point seems reasonable to me, but I await your enlightened insight to provide greater clarity on these points. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- bbrigante wrote: (Courtesy of Graeme Lodge, National Leader of New Zealand) Raja Bob Wynn: 1800 sidhas here at Fairfield. More than Super Radiance number already, so instantly we can achieve goal. All 1800 have not been doing program together. Are all those 1,800 eligible for the Dome? Or have a significant number been blacklisted for participating in other programs? If they've been banned from the Dome, would they be allowed into a satellite superradiance facility? How many are still doing their TM-Sidhi program, I wonder? I don't suppose anybody knows. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
Just to provide a little perspective (IMO *needed* perspective) on the Beatles and their relative impor- tance in the universe, a fairly recent poll by one of the music mags (I think the name of the mag was Mojo but I don't know...a musician friend told me about it) among teenagers found that over half of them had no idea how many people were in the band and couldn't name even one song that the Beatles had recorded. IMO, the *sound* of the Beatles' songs doesn't hold up over time. (As opposed to the lyrics and the melody, which do.) It's because of the mix -- too much treble and not enough bass by today's standards. As a result, a lot of kids raised on today's standards can't force themselves to listen to the music. Because of the mix, the Beatles' music sounds as ancient to them as listening to 78s would sound to those of us who grew up with the mixes of the 60s. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/19/06 10:02 AM, peterklutz at peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/19/06 12:47 AM, peterklutz at peterklutz@ wrote: I think the question is how would the Beatles have done without Maharishi? They were already doing great before him. Strange question. Freeze time at just the moment before Maharishi came into the lives of the Beatles and extrapolate from there: where would they and their music have been without the creative influence MMY had on them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band Sgt. Pepper came out before the Beatles met Maharishi. It is widely regarded as the greatest rock album ever. Way better than the White Album, IMO. If they had done nothing after Sgt. Pepper, they would still be remembered as the greatest rock band ever. Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. You seem to forget that right after Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour came out, which was a total flop, and was regarded as one of their worst albums, *before* they went to India with MMY. Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. After that, and after the failure of Magical Mystery Tour. the Beatles wanted to go back to a more basic style, which was done in the white Album. But the white album was a double album and contained many more songs, many of them where very simple, some just using acoustic guitar and voice, like 'Blackbird' According to George Martin the material should have been edited to just one album, working more on a selection of the better songs. So clearly, the problem was not a lack of creativity and song material. In fact the Beatles had written so much material in Rishikesh, that it still was used for two more albums, Let it Be and Abbey Road. Some of the compositions were only released after the Beatles had split, like 'Jealous Guy' one of the most beautiful balads of John next to imagine. 'Across the Universe' was also written in Rishikesh. So all in all, the period of Rishikesh itself, and after it was extremely creative, 'Hey jude' was just written right after the Indian visit by Paul and is regarded as one of the Beatles biggest success. Just the White Album was badly edited and contained too many songs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Giitaa tonic?
I wonder if Giitaa-paNDits can choose the key note according to feeling. It seems to vary a great deal from chapter to chapter. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to provide a little perspective (IMO *needed* perspective) on the Beatles and their relative impor- tance in the universe, a fairly recent poll by one of the music mags (I think the name of the mag was Mojo but I don't know...a musician friend told me about it) among teenagers found that over half of them had no idea how many people were in the band and couldn't name even one song that the Beatles had recorded. Actually I made a similar poll with a friend of mine, 10 years younger than me, not really interested in pop music at all. He would at best be able to name only one song when asked. But when I started to sing Beatle tunes to him, it turned out he knew more than ten. He was surprised himself. IMO, the *sound* of the Beatles' songs doesn't hold up over time. (As opposed to the lyrics and the melody, which do.) And that's one of their strong points really, especially the melody. It's because of the mix -- too much treble and not enough bass by today's standards. As a result, a lot of kids raised on today's standards can't force themselves to listen to the music. Because of the mix, the Beatles' music sounds as ancient to them as listening to 78s would sound to those of us who grew up with the mixes of the 60s. How could it be otherwise? I never was interested in Elvis, but the Beatles still were. Btw. Paul just got an award for his latest album in Hollywood, and the best song of this album is a very simple song, which he calles the little brother of 'Blackbird', basically just with acoustic guitar and voice, but I think its one of his best songs ever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. Just a few points on this. The Beatles' most successful album in terms of sales was far and away the White Album (Number 9 on the RIAA list of all-time best sellers). Next (at positions 17 and 24) are the two retrospective albums, then Abbey Road (#44). Sgt. Pepper shows up at number 52. One factor to always consider when evaluating claims of best ever, with regard to music or anything else, is the enduring power of myth and its ability to perpetuate itself. I've been reading a lot of movie magazines lately for a project I'm working on, and came across a fascina- ting poll result w.r.t. Best Film of all Time. The magazine found (no surprise) that the film voted #1 by their readers was Citizen Kane. But then they conducted a followup survey and found that a surprising number of the people who had voted for that film had either never seen it or hadn't seen it for over 20 years. In other words, if enough people *hear* that Citizen Kane was the best film ever made, that's the first thing that's going to pop into their minds when asked What's the best film ever made. Whereas if they were honest about their own tastes, it might actually be Die Hard. :-) I suspect that's a factor with the enduring popularity of Sgt. Pepper in the Best Of surveys. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Anti war Rally draws thousands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: snip Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? (In vietnam era, many felt this was true). Not equivalent. We're short on recruits, and the troops in Iraq are exhausted. Even a single new recruit helps the war effort a little. I am sorry, I don't follow your logic. You sure don't. We're short on recruits so blocking troop trains and planes (or something more creative) will not slow the war effort? Nope. Not unless the attempted blockage is *massive*. One single individual going to jail in protest is not going to impede the war effort in the slightest. Ghandi and MLK would disagree by example. I don't believe either ever went to jail in connection with an antiwar protest. What is being protested makes a difference in this context. And as far going to jail, I am surprised at your argument. A growing number of people going to jail, as in vietnam and civil rights movement would have an effect, IMO. A growing number starts with the commitment of individuals. The context here is whether one antiwar individual can make a difference by going to jail, such that it is equivalent to one pro-war individual enlisting. But all of this skirts the issue. I asked, Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? It doesn't skirt the issue. The issue is whether the antiwar individual could make the same degree of difference by going to jail as the pro-war individual could by enlisting. If my example is weak, perhaps you can pose a better example of Should the reverse be true It isn't the example per se. It's that what you're proposing the antiwar individual should do is not equivalent to what the antiwar individual is proposing the pro-war individual do with regard to their respective causes. Those who are pro-war can be successful directly in proportion to their numbers if they enlist. I am not sure of this logic. Many predict troop drawdowns by summer -- during congressional campaigns. In that case, the assumption would be that the war has been successful and is winding down. Or that the antiwar movement has been successful and the administration has decided to end the war. In either case it's no longer an issue. Those who are antiwar can be successful *only* if their numbers are massive (e.g., enough to elect an antiwar president). As in every congressional election, individuals, can make big a difference. A small group of dedicated individuals can create alarge impact. Massive not required. You'd have to have enough groups of dedicated individuals of a size that could elect enough antiwar candidates to constitute an antiwar majority in Congress that would be powerful enough to stop the administration from pursuing the war. Let me put it another way: The goal of the antiwar individual is (a) to stop the war. The goal of the pro-war individual is (b) to win the war. The reverse of these goals would be (a) to continue the war and (b) to lose the war. In other words, the goals of the antiwar and pro-war individuals are not the reverse *of each other*. The antiwar individual doesn't want the war to be lost, but stopped. The pro-war individual doesn't want the war to be continued, but won. Though nice, and why not massive? Don't understand this question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Anti war Rally draws thousands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ Again, not interested in answering your questions. Sorry. Again, pehaps because your shoulds end in contradiction, and are uncomfrotable for you to face. No, your supposition about me is not correct. Ah, so your shoulds end in contradictions and you do feel comfortable in facing it. Good. I am not facing any contradictions. Great! Now you are just facing a huge wall of denial. What a shame. And you were doing so good. You post empty platitudes, then punt when questions are asked. Thats understandable. But to deny your statements are empty and that hand waving makes them go away is sad. It says a lot about your type of awakening and enlightenment. Ha-Ha-Ha! Kali's lap dog reappears! Greetings-- still enjoying the shadows I see! Please don't worry Goddess, no one enlightened or awakened will *ever* appear in your world!!! As is your nature, you will make sure of that, eh? Jim, I am afraid I am missing your point. You suggest a broad imperitive to a large group of people, refuse to provide any reasoning and substantiation for it, and you then claim that therefore no enlightened or awakened will *ever* appear in my world. I see. That logic is almost as good as your prior stating that the lady must be ganja-ji because I never saw or heard her before. The wisdom of the truly enlightened is unfathomable -- and totally fabulous! Logic doesn't solve every problem, as you think it does. You will need to find your own hacksaw, I am afraid. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Anti war Rally draws thousands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Those pro-war shouldn't waste their time protesting. They should en masse head for the nearest recruiting station and enlist, in the infantry. Thats an interesting perspective. Do you feel that the underlying principal should apply to all wars, or just this one? Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? (In vietnam era, many felt this was true). Not equivalent. We're short on recruits, and the troops in Iraq are exhausted. Even a single new recruit helps the war effort a little. I am sorry, I don't follow your logic. We're short on recruits so blocking troop trains and planes (or something more creative) will not slow the war effort? One single individual going to jail in protest is not going to impede the war effort in the slightest. Ghandi and MLK would disagree by example. And as far going to jail, I am surprised at your argument. A growing number of people going to jail, as in vietnam and civil rights movement would have an effect, IMO. A growing number starts with the commitment of individuals. But all of this skirts the issue. I asked, Should the reverse be true: if you are against the war, should one block troop trains and planes, and be willing to go to jail to stop the war? If my example is weak, perhaps you can pose a better example of Should the reverse be true Those who are pro-war can be successful directly in proportion to their numbers if they enlist. I am not sure of this logic. Many predict troop drawdowns by summer -- during congressional campaigns. Those who are antiwar can be successful *only* if their numbers are massive (e.g., enough to elect an antiwar president). As in every congressional election, individuals, can make big a difference. A small group of dedicated individuals can create alarge impact. Massive not required. Though nice, and why not massive? Judy, keep your puppy-chow close by for this one ;) Jim, by your comment I assume you disagree with my analysis but some how can't come up with a cogent arguement to enlighten us as to why, resorting to apparently snide remarks. Which points do you specifically disagree with? 1) Ghandi and MLK would disagree by example that a single individual going to jail will not make a difference. 2) A growing number of people going to jail, as in vietnam and civil rights movement would have an effect, IMO. A growing number starts with the commitment of individuals. 3) Many predict troop drawdowns by summer -- during congressional campaigns. 4) As in every congressional election, individuals, can make big a difference. 5) A small group of dedicated individuals can create a large impact. 6) Massive not required. Though nice, and why not massive? Each point seems reasonable to me, but I await your enlightened insight to provide greater clarity on these points. You will wait forever, I am afraid. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Anti war Rally draws thousands?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: Well clearly your shoulds end incontradiction, so that fact that you are comfortable in facing your contradictions is a good sign, positive for growth. Nope. I agree. Denial is not a good sign, and is not positive for growth. Nope. Ok then. So its clear that you have no substantiation to provide for a broad imperitive you suggested. Good. So we can move on. This was such a minor point. Hardly worth all your handwaving to avoid addressing it. I am far more interested in topics such as I posted here. You are a big fan of seeking. Perhaps you can comment. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/91628 Nope Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Judy:I can think of quite a few people that I don't understand how anyone with their full mental faculties could take seriously, whom no one accuses of regressing in their mental capacities, let alone becoming senile. One doesn't have to be mentally incompetent to spout nonsense. *I* don't take a lot of what MMY says seriously, but I don't assume that means he's regressed in his mental capacities. Those are really two different issues with different symptoms. Irmeli:As the title of this thread refers to I commented MMY:s reasoning around the concept caste. If I read that kind of text not knowing whose it is, I would very spontaneously think that the person is either an uncivilized Hindu fundamentalist, or the person to be mildly retarded in his/her mental capacities. There were too many inconsistencies in the text. Concepts were put in groups where they don't belong. People's intelligence is tested mainly how they can place items in correct groups. I think that you would also perceive these fallacies, if you didn't know the text was MMY's, or at the latest, when the Hindu concepts where replaced by let's say communist or Muslim slogans. What makes you think I don't perceive these fallacies? I said explicitly that I don't take a lot of what MMY says seriously. Why would you assume his comments on caste were among the things he's said that I take seriously? However, I think your primitive Hindu fundamentalist/ mildly retarded in his mental faculties is a false dichotomy; and I don't necessarily agree with your assertion that because he doesn't put things in groups the same way you would, therefore his intelligence is failing. I would also ask again what you think he meant when he said he wanted to do away with castes entirely. Also the other thread here, where MMY's press conference behaviour was discussed, is rather revealing. Try yourself to respond to a person, who does questions to you, as MMY does, and observe how people around you start to perceive you. Occasional slip-up is understandable. We all have our bad days. But when it is a repeating pattern, other conclusions have to be made. You assume that his goal is to have the reporters think well of him, and that therefore because he hasn't managed to do so, it must be because his mental faculties are failing. But I'm not at all sure that's what his goal is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: Maharishi says must get into vastu otherwise you won't know from what corner the disease will come. You should move as if your house is on fire. I don't know if anyone else finds this revealing, but I sure do. This is the word from the guy who has been afraid to leave his two rooms for...how many years is it now?...since his heart attack? Just a thought...it isn't impossible that he's having to take medications that suppress his immune system, and that his physicians have recommended that he minimize his contact with other people and with the outside world. He may be so frail at this point that they don't want to risk even his catching a cold if it can be avoided. snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to provide a little perspective (IMO *needed* perspective) on the Beatles and their relative impor- tance in the universe, a fairly recent poll by one of the music mags (I think the name of the mag was Mojo but I don't know...a musician friend told me about it) among teenagers found that over half of them had no idea how many people were in the band and couldn't name even one song that the Beatles had recorded. How about the other bands of that period? Were the teenagers familiar with and appreciative of any of them? snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Family Chat March 18th
English translation: The domes are falling apart, nobody wants to go there anymore, and we need more $$ to fix them. Sal On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:35 PM, bbrigante wrote: dome fees may go down to $25, Brahmastan land purchased in Nebraska: ***
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip However, I think your primitive Hindu fundamentalist/ mildly retarded in his mental faculties is a false dichotomy; and I don't necessarily agree with your assertion that because he doesn't put things in groups the same way you would, therefore his intelligence is failing. P.S.: Or the way I would, for that matter. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Striving and Seeking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeking for non-seeking is much cooler. Just think of the money you'll save. And how much more you'll find... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 4:00 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freeze time at just the moment before Maharishi came into the lives of the Beatles and extrapolate from there: where would they and their music have been without the creative influence MMY had on them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt._Pepper's_Lonely_Hearts_Club_Band Sgt. Pepper came out before the Beatles met Maharishi. It is widely regarded as the greatest rock album ever. Way better than the White Album, IMO. If they had done nothing after Sgt. Pepper, they would still be remembered as the greatest rock band ever. Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. You seem to forget that right after Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour came out, which was a total flop, and was regarded as one of their worst albums, *before* they went to India with MMY. Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than A Day in the Life After that, and after the failure of Magical Mystery Tour. the Beatles wanted to go back to a more basic style, which was done in the white Album. But the white album was a double album and contained many more songs, many of them where very simple, some just using acoustic guitar and voice, like 'Blackbird' According to George Martin the material should have been edited to just one album, working more on a selection of the better songs. So clearly, the problem was not a lack of creativity and song material. In fact the Beatles had written so much material in Rishikesh, that it still was used for two more albums, Let it Be and Abbey Road. Some of the compositions were only released after the Beatles had split, like 'Jealous Guy' one of the most beautiful balads of John next to imagine. 'Across the Universe' was also written in Rishikesh. So all in all, the period of Rishikesh itself, and after it was extremely creative, 'Hey jude' was just written right after the Indian visit by Paul and is regarded as one of the Beatles biggest success. Just the White Album was badly edited and contained too many songs. I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Just to provide a little perspective (IMO *needed* perspective) on the Beatles and their relative impor- tance in the universe, a fairly recent poll by one of the music mags (I think the name of the mag was Mojo but I don't know...a musician friend told me about it) among teenagers found that over half of them had no idea how many people were in the band and couldn't name even one song that the Beatles had recorded. How about the other bands of that period? Were the teenagers familiar with and appreciative of any of them? snip well anecdotally, my teenage daughter who listens to music constantly said yesterday that she couldn't stand Led Zeppelin, thought their music was boring... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Bingo. Maharishi would be a nobody, and maybe 1000 people worldwide would have heard of TM or learned it. Credit where credit's due. If Maharishi can't bring himself to say it, at least we should be willing to. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 8:05 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. Just a few points on this. The Beatles' most successful album in terms of sales was far and away the White Album (Number 9 on the RIAA list of all-time best sellers). Next (at positions 17 and 24) are the two retrospective albums, then Abbey Road (#44). Sgt. Pepper shows up at number 52. A very recent survey in Rolling Stone voted Sgt. Pepper the best of all time. Which album would you choose? I'd have to put Days of Future Past by the Moody Blues right up there too. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Just to provide a little perspective (IMO *needed* perspective) on the Beatles and their relative impor- tance in the universe, a fairly recent poll by one of the music mags (I think the name of the mag was Mojo but I don't know...a musician friend told me about it) among teenagers found that over half of them had no idea how many people were in the band and couldn't name even one song that the Beatles had recorded. How about the other bands of that period? Were the teenagers familiar with and appreciative of any of them? snip well anecdotally, my teenage daughter who listens to music constantly said yesterday that she couldn't stand Led Zeppelin, thought their music was boring... Your daughter and I would get along; I *always* thought that. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 8:05 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. Just a few points on this. The Beatles' most successful album in terms of sales was far and away the White Album (Number 9 on the RIAA list of all-time best sellers). Next (at positions 17 and 24) are the two retrospective albums, then Abbey Road (#44). Sgt. Pepper shows up at number 52. A very recent survey in Rolling Stone voted Sgt. Pepper the best of all time. Which album would you choose? I'd have to put Days of Future Past by the Moody Blues right up there too. Of the Beatles' albums, both Rubber Soul and Revolver were better than Sgt. Pepper IMO. Best of *all* albums? For me? Too tough to call. It depends on when you ask me. But the Moody Blues wouldn't be on my list, period, because I never liked them. I could barely get through one of their songs, much less an entire album's worth. Different strokes for different folks. The album that pops to the top of my list for Best Album Ever -- right here, right now -- is Bob Marley's Exodus. And I'm not alone. Time magazine named that one the most important and influential record album of the twentieth century. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/19/06 12:59 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really was not until the seventies, around 1975, that the movement really took off, with the Merv shows, and the many celebraties that had started TM at the time, and were helping to spread the message. But that's because a wave of new initiations, and initiators, resulted from the Beatles involvement with TM. Those initiators made the Merv wave possible. Merv probably wouldn't have heard of TM without the Beatles. Merv would definitely never have heard of Maharishi if it hadn't been for the Beatles. Merv had the hots for the Beatles, all of them (Merv was gay) and he was more than open when he was in LA for the taping of his show that that's where he first heard of Maharishi and TM. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Dome #s
Title: Dome #s From a friend: The present # are very low some time in the high 250 to 300 max occasionally 325. @ the best of times. So many have left the Univ., for projects so many others are on a list etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 9:41 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The album that pops to the top of my list for Best Album Ever -- right here, right now -- is Bob Marley's Exodus. And I'm not alone. Time magazine named that one the most important and influential record album of the twentieth century. Thanks. I'll check it out. A good place to do that is Rhapsody. For $10/month, you can listen to just about anything. I'm sure I'll find the album there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
well anecdotally, my teenage daughter who listens to music constantly said yesterday that she couldn't stand Led Zeppelin, thought their music was boring... Your daughter and I would get along; I *always* thought that. :-) ha ha! Yeah, she doesn't like the Beatles either, or sees them as hugely irrelevant anyway. Gotta say the last time I heard their stuff, I was unimpressed, though there is a soft spot in my heart for what they stood for back then. I really think a lot of it is the mix. I find the Beatles' recordings difficult to listen to these days, for that very reason. They sound artificial and tinny compared even to other music of the period, much less today's mixology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Recent Interviews'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Such a cynic. So, do we all just wait around...to see if Maharishi was right or wrong? Seems like an awfully big waste of time to me Bite your tongue, dude. You've just dumped on the entire history of the TM movement. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] How to Spot a Baby Conservative
How to spot a baby conservative KID POLITICS Whiny children, claims a new study, tend to grow up rigid and traditional. Future liberals, on the other hand ... Mar. 19, 2006. 10:45 AM KURT KLEINER SPECIAL TO THE [Toronto] STAR Remember the whiny, insecure kid in nursery school, the one who always thought everyone was out to get him, and was always running to the teacher with complaints? Chances are he grew up to be a conservative. At least, he did if he was one of 95 kids from the Berkeley area that social scientists have been tracking for the last 20 years. The confident, resilient, self-reliant kids mostly grew up to be liberals. Read more at: http://tinyurl.com/rom96 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi's Recent Interviews'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Such a cynic. So, do we all just wait around...to see if Maharishi was right or wrong? Seems like an awfully big waste of time to me Bite your tongue, dude. You've just dumped on the entire history of the TM movement. :-) Ha-ha! I know, poor me, a case of cosmic ADD... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Judy:I can think of quite a few people that I don't understand how anyone with their full mental faculties could take seriously, whom no one accuses of regressing in their mental capacities, let alone becoming senile. One doesn't have to be mentally incompetent to spout nonsense. *I* don't take a lot of what MMY says seriously, but I don't assume that means he's regressed in his mental capacities. Those are really two different issues with different symptoms. Irmeli:As the title of this thread refers to I commented MMY:s reasoning around the concept caste. If I read that kind of text not knowing whose it is, I would very spontaneously think that the person is either an uncivilized Hindu fundamentalist, or the person to be mildly retarded in his/her mental capacities. There were too many inconsistencies in the text. Concepts were put in groups where they don't belong. People's intelligence is tested mainly how they can place items in correct groups. I think that you would also perceive these fallacies, if you didn't know the text was MMY's, or at the latest, when the Hindu concepts where replaced by let's say communist or Muslim slogans. Judy:What makes you think I don't perceive these fallacies? I said explicitly that I don't take a lot of what MMY says seriously. Why would you assume his comments on caste were among the things he's said that I take seriously? However, I think your primitive Hindu fundamentalist/ mildly retarded in his mental faculties is a false dichotomy; and I don't necessarily agree with your assertion that because he doesn't put things in groups the same way you would, therefore his intelligence is failing. Irmeli: These categories or groups cannot be formed arbitrarily as it suits you.For perceiving them correctly intelligence is needed. It is as if you claimed having created your own mathematics, when when you cannot count correctly. MMY's claims are like hydrogen atoms and skin cells belong to the same category.They don't. Hydrogen atoms belong to the group atoms and skin cells to the group cells. They are quite different phenomenon on the level of complexity. Atoms are a subgroup of cells several hierarchies beneath. I would also ask again what you think he meant when he said he wanted to do away with castes entirely. Irmeli:You take here just one sentence from from a confused talk. The main theme in the talk is however: Without caste there will be hodgepogdge. Caste is everywhere, it is a natural pehenomenon. When MMY says: We want to eliminate caste ,I understand him to mean: People want to eliminate caste and then he continues explaining why it will never work. Irmeli: Also the other thread here, where MMY's press conference behaviour was discussed, is rather revealing. Try yourself to respond to a person, who does questions to you, as MMY does, and observe how people around you start to perceive you. Occasional slip-up is understandable. We all have our bad days. But when it is a repeating pattern, other conclusions have to be made. Judy:You assume that his goal is to have the reporters think well of him, and that therefore because he hasn't managed to do so, it must be because his mental faculties are failing. But I'm not at all sure that's what his goal is. Irmeli: Why otherwise would he have press-conferences. If he makes a fool of himself, how can people appreciate his message. It has been of utmost importance for MMY to be seen as a great guru, to whom world's leaders come to ask solutions to their problems. He has used manipulation, lies and exaggerations to achieve this dream of his. And the result is that he has got a very poor reputation. I want to emphasize here the word SEEN. If world peace would appear now, he would immediately claim ownership of that peace, even if his role in creating the peace were a minor one. Such is his nature. And it is OK, he serves as he is many important purposes. Nature's goal with him has been already for a while to make a fool of him. It most probably is not his conscious goal, rather his subconscious goal. On a very subtle level he however has succeeded with the task that was given to him. And that is the most essential thing, and he can be proud of that. We should not mix with each other two different levels of reality. P.S.When I read your posts I have quite often got the impression that you excersice hairsplitting to divert attention away from the main theme or the main problem the poster is successfully presenting. When you cannot disprove the claims of the poster, you start hairsplitting with unessential details. This happens possibly because you have a preset agenda to defend,
[FairfieldLife] 'Peace Palace for Pittsburg'
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[FairfieldLife] 'Maharishi Discusses TM Costs '
Moneyissues discussed in the last news conference, shed some light on Maharishi's thinking, concerning money and thecost of learning TM. The reporter was asking, why Maharishi doesn't just teach for free... In response: He said that if something was given away for free, then people assign little value to it. He said that his teachers weren't making enough money to survive and be able to teach. He said he didnt' want to be like a 'hocker' on the street, 'hocking' TM, like someone would 'hock' oranges; But rather, establish a place, where people could come, in dignity, and gain all of the offerings in one place. Maharishi said that he is not interested in accumulating money for himself, only to support his programs and his teachings; He also, was saying that the 'effect' of his programs onMass Consciousness, was due to the quantum mechanical effect of the Vedic sounds, 'not being localized to one place and time; but rather that the effects are felt throughout the wholeness of the Unity of the time/space continuum... Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip I think that you would also perceive these fallacies, if you didn't know the text was MMY's, or at the latest, when the Hindu concepts where replaced by let's say communist or Muslim slogans. Judy:What makes you think I don't perceive these fallacies? I said explicitly that I don't take a lot of what MMY says seriously. Why would you assume his comments on caste were among the things he's said that I take seriously? I notice you didn't respond to this. However, I think your primitive Hindu fundamentalist/ mildly retarded in his mental faculties is a false dichotomy; Or this. and I don't necessarily agree with your assertion that because he doesn't put things in groups the same way you would, therefore his intelligence is failing. Irmeli: These categories or groups cannot be formed arbitrarily as it suits you. Categories and groups are purely subjective constructs, Irmeli. They don't exist in nature; they're how we categorize and group what we observe. That one person's categories and groupings do not correspond to yours or mine, or even to those of a very broad consensus of people, does NOT automatically mean they're the product of a failing intelligence. They may seem arbitrary to you and me, but the person creating them may have good reasons for them (good as far as as he or she is concerned). For perceiving them correctly intelligence is needed. It is as if you claimed having created your own mathematics, when when you cannot count correctly. No, mathematics is a different animal entirely. MMY's claims are like hydrogen atoms and skin cells belong to the same category.They don't. Hydrogen atoms belong to the group atoms and skin cells to the group cells. They are quite different phenomenon on the level of complexity. Atoms are a subgroup of cells several hierarchies beneath. I wouldn't argue with this myself, but I'd want to hear MMY's argument concerning these criticisms made of what he said about castes before ruling it the product of a failing intelligence. Caveat: I did *not* say I'd like to hear his arguments before deciding whether I agreed with him or not. I would also ask again what you think he meant when he said he wanted to do away with castes entirely. Irmeli:You take here just one sentence from from a confused talk. Because it appears to contradict the rest of what he was saying, yes. The main theme in the talk is however: Without caste there will be hodgepogdge. Caste is everywhere, it is a natural pehenomenon. When MMY says: We want to eliminate caste ,I understand him to mean: People want to eliminate caste and then he continues explaining why it will never work. That's one way to interpret it, and you may very well be correct. But I've heard that he once addressed the caste issue by suggesting castes were originally intended to designate levels of consciousness. Once everyone has become enlightened, such designations would no longer be necessary, and thus the reason for castes in the first place would be eliminated. Caveat: I'm not saying I think he's *right*, or even that this is what he meant in what he said more recently, merely suggesting another possibility as to how he sees it. Irmeli: Also the other thread here, where MMY's press conference behaviour was discussed, is rather revealing. Try yourself to respond to a person, who does questions to you, as MMY does, and observe how people around you start to perceive you. Occasional slip-up is understandable. We all have our bad days. But when it is a repeating pattern, other conclusions have to be made. Judy:You assume that his goal is to have the reporters think well of him, and that therefore because he hasn't managed to do so, it must be because his mental faculties are failing. But I'm not at all sure that's what his goal is. Irmeli: Why otherwise would he have press-conferences. If he makes a fool of himself, how can people appreciate his message. You assume that everyone who hears him or reads what he said decides that he has made a fool of himself. It has been of utmost importance for MMY to be seen as a great guru, to whom world's leaders come to ask solutions to their problems. He has used manipulation, lies and exaggerations to achieve this dream of his. And the result is that he has got a very poor reputation. Perhaps he isn't addressing those who view him as having a poor reputation. I want to emphasize here the word SEEN. If world peace would appear now, he would immediately claim ownership of that peace, even if his role in creating the peace were a minor one. Such is his nature. And it is OK, he serves as he is many important
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip P.S.When I read your posts I have quite often got the impression that you excersice hairsplitting to divert attention away from the main theme or the main problem the poster is successfully presenting. When you cannot disprove the claims of the poster, you start hairsplitting with unessential details. This happens possibly because you have a preset agenda to defend, not because you wouldn't understand. You cannot allow any bigger cracks to your aim, just small ones so you can keep people perceiving you with some credibility. You do understand, but you are not in a position to be able to freely look at phenomenon and investigate ideas and claims with an open mind, which could lead to conclusions not fitting to your preset goal. P.S.: Irmeli, you might want to think about why you felt the need to launch an ad hominem attack at me when my responses to you contained no ad hominem at all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
Regarding caste, Maharishi said at Amherst in 1971 that he opposed interracial marriage because the best qualities of both races are lost in the offspring. Also, he is alleged to have opposed the geographic intermingling of races, when it was brought to his attention that this was sometimes a point of tension in the US (e.g., segregation issues). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Trademark Lawsuit Mike Scozzari
sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [big snip of 3 previous posts on this topic] Successful mediation leads to a mutually agreed upon BINDING contract that is signed off by the judge. Dear Sparaig, 1. By putting BINDING in caps, you are implying that I wrote that media- tion is not binding. Please slowly reread what I originally posted. I never said that mediation is not binding. I said that the result of arbitration is AUTOMATICALLY binding; but the result of mediation is binding ONLY if both parties agree to it and sign off on it. In both cases binding is still only as good as both parties' good faith in understanding the agreement in the same way and acting to honor the agreement (as is the case with any legal contract). If they later disagree about what it meant, or don't honor what they agreed to, it's back to court for a lawsuit over this new contract (the mediation agreement or arbitration decision). Successful mediation leads to a mutually agreed upon BINDING contract that is signed off by the judge. 2. This part about signed off by the judge is just simply not accurate information. Nothing indicates that in this case a judge would have to approve any mediation agreement. Mediation may be voluntary or court-ordered. In this case it was voluntary (not directed by the court), although a parallel lawsuit is already in progress. Mediation may end in 4 ways, when there is already a lawsuit in progress: 1. The parties don't reach an agreement through mediation. Then the court case proceeds. 2. The parties do reach an agreement through mediation. They prepare and sign the agreement, which then has the legal force of a contract, and is enforceable by going to court if either party violates it. a. The party filing the original lawsuit withdraws it, without prejudice (meaning they can refile it again in the future if necessary). The signed mediation agreement is not filed with the court, but like any signed contract, legally binds both parties. b. The signed mediation agreement is filed with the court (no judge has to sign off on or approve it), and the party filing the lawsuit withdraws it, without prejudice (meaning they can refile it again in the future if necessary). Although they may not be required to file the mediation agreement when dismissing the case, they would be wise to do so to docu- ment the agreement and it's connection to the dropped lawsuit, in case future legal action is necessary to enforce the agreement. c. The signed mediation agreement is filed with the court; the judge has to sign off on it, approve it - and then allows the party filing the law- suit to withdraw it, without prejudice (meaning they can refile it again in the future if necessary). Whether the judge has to sign off on a signed mediation agreement in or- der to drop a pending lawsuit (b. or c. above) is based on whether the judge ordered the mediation (which in this case he didn't) and whether the rules of that jurisdiction require it (nothing on the 17th Judicial Cir- cuit of Florida - Broward County Courts - website indicates a special rule requiring this - see http://www.17th.flcourts.org/local_rules.html). (In any case, it's unlikely that a judge would reject a properly, legally crafted mediation agreement in a small case like this, where there are no huge financial settlements involved, no naive third parties to protect, etc.) 1. For reference, please see: http://law.freeadvice.com/litigation/mediation/ For example, Question 18 of 19 in General Questions says: Q: Is the agreement reached in mediation enforceable? A: Yes. Do not agree to anything you cannot live with. At the end of the mediation, the lawyers for the disputants will draw up an agreement that embodies all the main points of what has been agreed to. Both parties will sign this agreement and the dispute is ended. Afterwards, the lawyers may draw up a more formal document that can [not must] be filed with a court when dismissing the case. If no case has been filed, the lawyers will draw up a contract that binds both parties. Recently, experienced lawyers have begun bringing their notebook computers to the mediation so they can generate the final document at the end of the mediation. 2. For reference also see an answer by the American Bar Association (ABA): http://cobrands.public.findlaw.com/adr/newcontent/content/aba/flg/ch1/st8/ qa2.html Q: I have already hired a lawyer and filed a lawsuit. Is it too late to negotiate a settlement [e.g. through mediation]? A: No. It's almost never too late to settle. Judges and lawyers encourage those involved in a lawsuit to reach an agreement between themselves. If you reach an agreement after filing your case,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO Trademark Lawsuit Mike Scozzari
on 3/20/06 11:36 AM, Michael Dean Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope this helps clarify these legal points. I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV. :) Really? Or does the smiley face mean you're joking? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Online Spiritual Library
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Online Spiritual Library
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Peace Palace for Pittsburg'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06079/673396.stm Only 238 initiations to pay for this $595,000 property. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi Discusses TM Costs '
Well, when the prices was low and a lot of people came to learn TM - and we had ATR - The TM-Teachers had more money for living than with the coursefees today. I am an Independent Teacher - with reasonable prices. Not doing much Marketing. People are coming to learn Transcendental Meditation continuous, Lawyers, Artists, Business Leaders, Youngsters - all kind of people. They are climbing up four stairs to my small appartment also from other parts of the country. I am occupied two - three days a week with courses. If I did more Marketing - I would easily have a good living by courses, but I have a job - and have other sources for income. It is a failure of MMY to raise the prices to $ 2.500 - if he is concerned about HIS Teachers, which I do not think he is. Most of my students continue to meditate - regardless of prices. What counts - is the experience they have with meditation. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Money issues discussed in the last news conference, shed some light on Maharishi's thinking, concerning money and the cost of learning TM. The reporter was asking, why Maharishi doesn't just teach for free... In response: He said that if something was given away for free, then people assign little value to it. He said that his teachers weren't making enough money to survive and be able to teach. He said he didnt' want to be like a 'hocker' on the street, 'hocking' TM, like someone would 'hock' oranges; But rather, establish a place, where people could come, in dignity, and gain all of the offerings in one place. Maharishi said that he is not interested in accumulating money for himself, only to support his programs and his teachings; He also, was saying that the 'effect' of his programs on Mass Consciousness, was due to the quantum mechanical effect of the Vedic sounds, 'not being localized to one place and time; but rather that the effects are felt throughout the wholeness of the Unity of the time/space continuum... - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Striving and Seeking
And yet is still seeking. A seeker, a need seen as bringing happiness (or coolness), an object, a process, a cycle, a loop, a dog chasing his tail. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeking for non-seeking is much cooler. Just think of the money you'll save. On Mar 19, 2006, at 8:55 PM, anon_astute_ff wrote: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to SEEKERS of truth and liberation everywhere. FFL Masthead Thats perhaps the problem. A band of merry seekers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: You will receive everything you need when you stop asking for what you do not need. The very search for pleasure is the cause of pain. If you are seeking what is the truth about yourself, then realize that what you are seeking you already are that, in totality. The false believe in a so called mind seemingly creates an individual seeker with a false sense of separation from pure Awareness, just realize that thoughts are not the real you or your ever-present unchanging Reality. The pure essence or pure presence that is prior to all thoughts, it is that undeniable sense of Presence that is translated with the thought I AM. That ordinary sense of presence of livingness/Awareness is our Natural State or True Nature. It is always present right Here right Now, always unchanging, always untouched by suffering, always untouched by thoughts, untouched by birth or death. It is effortless, just a little noticing of the you or Awareness, which is always present prior to thoughts. It is so obvious that we have overlooked it for so long, looking for something new outside ourselves, because it is no-thing, yet it is the very substratum of our existence, it is the very livingness itself, the core of our Being. Nisargadatta Maharaj If consciousness is who we already are, then seeking is the very opposite of what is necessary! If consciousness is who we already are, seeking of any kind obscures our true nature. The moment a spiritual search begins, one unwittingly plays a game of hide and seek where he or she simultaneously plays both parts! In Advaita, seeking is patently absurd because it implies a future time of finding. If all that exists is oneness, how can there be a past or future? Past and future are concepts in the mind, while the present momentright here, right nowis all that truly is. If there is an opposite to Advaita, it is the act of seeking! James Braha Stop all delays, all seeking and all striving. Put down your concepts, ideas and beliefs. For one instant be still and directly encounter the silent unknown core of your being. In that instant Freedom will embrace you and reveal the Awakening that you are. Adyashanti If all there is is Consciousness, if there is only Consciousness, then why or for what are you still seeking? If there is only Consciousness then right now you must be That and every thing else that appears in and as awareness must also be That, including any sense of separate self. Any appearance of mundane, ordinary existence can be no less of Consciousness than any appearance of unconditional love, wholeness, bliss, stillness, silence or anything else. Does anything really need to be transcended, found or let go of? Clarity By Nathan Gill STOP Striving! Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Wayne: The common question is, Is the guru necessary? My answer is that there are no requirements set forth by Consciousness. Consciousness can do anything It wants within the manifestation. Seeking is a phenomenal process, and that's what's crucial to understand-seeking is a phenomenal process. It happens within phenomenality; the various progressions that occur are in phenomenality; the impulse is in phenomenality; and the final event which is the dissolution of the seeking, actually the dissolution of personal doership, is in phenomenality. All that happens is in phenomenality. The result of the process of seeking is only notionally a result, because what it reveals is what is there all the time anyway. So there is really no progress in the absolute sense. Yet within the phenomenal structure of seeking and the seeker, the guru may play a role. In fact, in the lives of many seekers the guru is a figure central to the seeking. For those who have found a guru, who have found their true guru, there is no greater phenomenal experience. Wayne Liquorman, Advaita Fellowship -- student of Ramesh Balsekar The end of the search of the one who is seeking is the end of the seeker - it is the end of the experience of seeker-seeking-sought. This does not mean the end (or death) of the human mechanism (body, mind,
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Striving and Seeking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Seeking for non-seeking is much cooler. Just think of the money you'll save. And how much more you'll find... If you are looking for more and more and more ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than A Day in the Life Every song on the album. I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. That's rubbish of course. But even John Lennon said short before his death, that the two biggest influences on his life were Yoko, and MMY. But without him, he still would have been a very creative Superstar. I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Surely the Beatles made MMY known to a larger audience. If none of us would have heard of him otherwise is something I simply do not know. SIMS was growing fast and was in tune with the times in LA / UCLA in 1996, and within months in Berkeley. A year before the Beatles started. I think California, and perhaps Cambridge and a few other student centers would have grown strongly yet more smoothly w/o the Beatles. Less flakes jumping on the bandwagon. Smaller TTCs with stronger people. The initial scientific work would have been published about the same time. Steady spread to other campuses. It would still have fit in well with the middle class trend towards human potential movement. In early 70's, without beatles, it stil would have been the most middle class friendly, science-validated, yet trendy, hip and effective thing out there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/20/06 8:05 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. Just a few points on this. The Beatles' most successful album in terms of sales was far and away the White Album (Number 9 on the RIAA list of all-time best sellers). Next (at positions 17 and 24) are the two retrospective albums, then Abbey Road (#44). Sgt. Pepper shows up at number 52. A very recent survey in Rolling Stone voted Sgt. Pepper the best of all time. Which album would you choose? I'd have to put Days of Future Past by the Moody Blues right up there too. Of the Beatles' albums, both Rubber Soul and Revolver were better than Sgt. Pepper IMO. Best of *all* albums? For me? Too tough to call. It depends on when you ask me. But the Moody Blues wouldn't be on my list, period, because I never liked them. I could barely get through one of their songs, much less an entire album's worth. Different strokes for different folks. The album that pops to the top of my list for Best Album Ever -- right here, right now -- is Bob Marley's Exodus. And I'm not alone. Time magazine named that one the most important and influential record album of the twentieth century. To fully appreciate an alblums depth, strengh, creativity and innovation, it needs to be viewed contextually -- what preceeded it -- what new ground did it break -- or old ground done much better. All of this in addition to its timeless values. Cheap Thrills After Bathing at Baxters Are You Experienced Disraili Gears were great (continuing) leaps at the time -- and IMO -- still hold up well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 2:10 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To fully appreciate an alblums depth, strengh, creativity and innovation, it needs to be viewed contextually -- what preceeded it -- what new ground did it break -- or old ground done much better. All of this in addition to its timeless values. Cheap Thrills After Bathing at Baxters Are You Experienced Disraili Gears How about Surrealistic Pillow? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 2:10 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To fully appreciate an alblums depth, strengh, creativity and innovation, it needs to be viewed contextually -- what preceeded it -- what new ground did it break -- or old ground done much better. All of this in addition to its timeless values. Cheap Thrills After Bathing at Baxters Are You Experienced Disraili Gears How about Surrealistic Pillow? Great alblum, but I thought After Bathing at Baxters was the alblum when JA really found their sound. Surrealistic Pillow still had some fluff. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Bob, Are you selling these on commission or something? How many times have you posted this in the last few months? This is the second time already today, and I know we've seen it at least a few times before. Sal On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: New Vegetable Subscription Program Offered It's probably priced like Maharishi Honey. Gotta raise cash for the Peace Corridor... JohnY *** Unlike the honey, the pricing seems reasonable to me, like $18/wk for a half subscription. For a complete vegetarian like myself, I spend about $2-4/day on veggies, so the pricing sounds affordable: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/91629 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 7:19 AM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: (Courtesy of Graeme Lodge, National Leader of New Zealand) Raja Bob Wynn: 1800 sidhas here at Fairfield. More than Super Radiance number already, so instantly we can achieve goal. All 1800 have not been doing program together. Are all those 1,800 eligible for the Dome? No. Or have a significant number been blacklisted for participating in other programs? Yes. If they've been banned from the Dome, would they be allowed into a satellite superradiance facility? Not unless the rules change. How many are still doing their TM-Sidhi program, I wonder? Many have stopped. I don't suppose anybody knows. The Knower knows. * Hard numbers are hard to come by, but I would guess that there are no more than 100 former Siddhas (or practicing Siddhas who are barred from the domes) in Fairfield. So even if you deduct that 100 from the 1800 figure, there are still a potential 1700 Siddhas available if they lower the dome fees and start these satellite programs. It's (slightly) encouraging to see that the MUM PR people are no longer trying to pump the lie about 3000 Siddhas in Fairfield/VC , but have lowered the figure to a number more in line with what the actual numbers are. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 3:02 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheap Thrills After Bathing at Baxters Are You Experienced Disraili Gears How about Surrealistic Pillow? Great alblum, but I thought After Bathing at Baxters was the alblum when JA really found their sound. Surrealistic Pillow still had some fluff. I don't think I ever even listened to that one. I'll check it out. For me, Surrealistic Pillow captured the magic of the Summer of Love (1967). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 3:48 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are You Experienced I bought it mainly for Red House, a twelve bar standard (parodish?) blues, I believe. In my understanding the version of RH on the US release is different from the one on the European, or whatever, release. Red House wasn't even on the US release. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 3:48 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are You Experienced I bought it mainly for Red House, a twelve bar standard (parodish?) blues, I believe. In my understanding the version of RH on the US release is different from the one on the European, or whatever, release. Red House wasn't even on the US release. I remember a small group of friends gathered to hear it when it was first released, Are You Experienced. It was a mind blowing alblum for the time. Nothing like that had ever been heard. We were dumb struck. It reminds me of a story Paul Faurso told once. When he was in the Loading Zone --quite a good band -- they used to play the early Fillmore and Avalon Ballrooms in SF. In 66 or so, one afternoon they were setting up their equipment and doing sound checks. A dude with a huge afro, no one had ever seen him around before, sauntered up and said to one of the band members, Hey man, can I borrow your guitar. He started to play, and ripped the roof off. Everyone stood awestruck with their mouths hanging open. No one had ever heard anyone play that out there and so well. It was Hendrix, on his first first visit to SF, to check out the scene, before he had his band or any record contracts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Scientology/South Park
Meantime, Tom Cruise may have gotten Comedy Central to pull its repeat of South Park's Scientology spoof last week, but the result is that episode is all over the Web. You can see it for free at http://tinyurl.com/zf8p2 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html Chef's Quitting Controversy Monday, March 20, 2006 By Roger Friedman Isaac Hayes' Quitting Controversy Isaac Hayes did not quit South Park. My sources say that someone quit it for him. I can tell you that Hayes is in no position to have quit anything. Contrary to news reports, the great writer, singer and musician suffered a stroke on Jan. 17. At the time it was said that he was hospitalized and suffering from exhaustion. It's also absolutely ridiculous to think that Hayes, who loved playing Chef on South Park, would suddenly turn against the show because they were poking fun at Scientology. Last November, when the Trapped in a Closet episode of the comedy aired, I saw Hayes and spent time with him in Memphis for the annual Blues Ball. If he hated the show so much, I doubt he would have performed his trademark hit song from the show, Chocolate Salty Balls. He tossed the song into the middle of one of his less salacious hits and got the whole audience in the Memphis Pyramid to sing along. (I can tell you, Hayes was very pleased with himself, was in a great mood and, as always, loved his fans' coming up to him and asking him about Chef. As recently as early January, before his stroke, Hayes defended the South Park creators in an interview with The AV Club, the serious side of the satirical newspaper, The Onion. AV Club: They did just do an episode that made fun of your religion, Scientology. Did that bother you? Hayes: Well, I talked to Matt [Stone] and Trey [Parker] about that. They didn't let me know until it was done. I said, 'Guys, you have it all wrong. We're not like that. I know that's your thing, but get your information correct, because somebody might believe that [expletive], you know?' But I understand what they're doing. I told them to take a couple of Scientology courses and understand what we do. [Laughs.] The truth is, Hayes has a sly sense of humor and loves everything about South Park. It's provided him a much-needed income stream since losing the royalties to the many hits he's written, such as Shaft and Soul Man, in the mid-1970s. Even though he's one of America's most prolific hit writers, Hayes has been denied access to profits from his own material for almost 30 years. But it's hard to know anything since Hayes, like Katie Holmes, is constantly monitored by a Scientologist representative most of the time. Luckily, at the Blues Ball he was on his own, partying just with family and friends. He was very excited about having gotten married and about the impending birth of a new child. Friends in Memphis tell me that Hayes did not issue any statements on his own about South Park. They are mystified. Isaac's been concentrating on his recuperation for the last two and a half, three months, a close friend told me. Hayes did not suffer paralysis, but the mild stroke may have affected his speech and his memory. He's been having home therapy since it happened. That certainly begs the question of who issued the statement that Hayes was quitting South Park now because it mocked Scientology four months ago. If it wasn't Hayes, then who would have done such a thing? Meantime, Tom Cruise may have gotten Comedy Central to pull its repeat of South Park's Scientology spoof last week, but the result is that episode is all over the Web. You can see it for free at youtube.com. Not only that, the Comedy Central Web site has four clips from the 21-minute show. And it also says that Trapped in the Closet will air this Wednesday at 10 p.m. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The dark secrets of the organic-food movement.
http://www.slate.com/id/2138176/nav/tap1/ Another heading on the Whole Foods banner says Help the Small Farmer. Buying organic, it states, supports the small, family farmers that make up a large percentage of organic food producers. This is semantic sleight of hand. As one small family farmer in Connecticut told me recently, Almost all the organic food in this country comes out of California. And five or six big California farms dominate the whole industry. There's a widespread misperception in this countryone that organic growers, no matter how giant, happily encouragethat organic means small family farmer. That hasn't been the case for years, certainly not since 1990, when the Department of Agriculture drew up its official guidelines for organic food. Whole Foods knows this well, and so the line about the small family farmers that make up a large percentage of organic food producers is sneaky. There are a lot of small, family-run organic farmers, but their share of the organic crop in this country, and of the produce sold at Whole Foods, is minuscule. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Celebrations Sundays badge
Spend a Special Evening, Live with David Lynch, Dr. John Hagelin, and Donovan Sunday, March 26, at 7:45 p.m. Recreation Center Maharishi University of Management Who can attend? All Sidhas and Meditators with a current Dome badge, Celebrations Sundays badge, or Group Meditation badge All Maharishi Vedic City residents on the MVC list All students, faculty, and staff of Maharishi University of Management and Maharishi School with valid ID This live presentation on Sunday evening is a special new presentation just for the Fairfield meditating community (current badge required). Note: Due to technical difficulties, the weekend video feed to the Dome that was previously announced will not be possible. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch-Sharon Stone sittin in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g
Eegads, is that what world peace has now come down to, cigarette smoking violence/esx in movies crotch baring celebrities? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peace just a breath away, says Sharon Stone Mar 20 11:12 AM US/Eastern Email this story A peaceful co-existence between the peoples of the Middle East is but a breath away, Hollywood star Sharon Stone said after a highly publicized visit to Israel. It feels to me that we have an opportunity ... to choose understanding in a new way, she told a press conference in Paris when asked about her trip. And it really is just a breath. It's just an agreement that's just a breath. We are not far apart. We can choose to have this alternative kind of growth that is a collective nuance of understanding. We are just that breath away from a peaceful co-existence, she added after her visit to Israel as a guest of the Peres Center for Peace, a foundation run by Nobel laureate and former Israeli prime minister Shimon Peres. Stone, 48, who visited several projects aimed at promoting peace, including a kindergarten for Israeli and Palestinian children in Jaffa, was also photographed praying at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, the holiest Jewish shrine. Stone, who is also an ardent champion of women's rights, was in Paris ahead of the release of her latest film Basic Instinct II. She told journalists that she was delighted that women were stepping up to take their place in the world, taking on new jobs to which they brought something unique, their feminine instinct. This is a new and very exciting time for women, because women by their very nature are creative and not destructive. And this is an extraordinary and important thing that we can bring into a world that awaits the opportunity for peace. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: Not to take anything away from Sgt. Pepper. It was for a long time the most *successfull* album, if it was the best ever is a matter of taste of course. Just a few points on this. The Beatles' most successful album in terms of sales was far and away the White Album (Number 9 on the RIAA list of all-time best sellers). Next (at positions 17 and 24) are the two retrospective albums, then Abbey Road (#44). Sgt. Pepper shows up at number 52. That may be so now, but what I had meant, it was for a long time the most sold album, until 'Thriller' of the King of Pop came out.And it was in fact setting standards by which mainstream music is still produced until today (with orchestration etc). snip I suspect that's a factor with the enduring popularity of Sgt. Pepper in the Best Of surveys. Sgt Pepper had many nice songs, but the title song didn't strike me as especially genial. It was the overall quality of recording for the time, the blending of songs into each other, bundled by a common theme, which made it unique. One of my favorate songs on it is 'A day in the live', a song hardly known by most people. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Striving and Seeking
Some of us are finders. But, you have a bug up your ass about that, too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to SEEKERS of truth and liberation everywhere. FFL Masthead Thats perhaps the problem. A band of merry seekers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff no_reply@ wrote: You will receive everything you need when you stop asking for what you do not need. The very search for pleasure is the cause of pain. If you are seeking what is the truth about yourself, then realize that what you are seeking you already are that, in totality. The false believe in a so called mind seemingly creates an individual seeker with a false sense of separation from pure Awareness, just realize that thoughts are not the real you or your ever-present unchanging Reality. The pure essence or pure presence that is prior to all thoughts, it is that undeniable sense of Presence that is translated with the thought I AM. That ordinary sense of presence of livingness/Awareness is our Natural State or True Nature. It is always present right Here right Now, always unchanging, always untouched by suffering, always untouched by thoughts, untouched by birth or death. It is effortless, just a little noticing of the you or Awareness, which is always present prior to thoughts. It is so obvious that we have overlooked it for so long, looking for something new outside ourselves, because it is no-thing, yet it is the very substratum of our existence, it is the very livingness itself, the core of our Being. Nisargadatta Maharaj If consciousness is who we already are, then seeking is the very opposite of what is necessary! If consciousness is who we already are, seeking of any kind obscures our true nature. The moment a spiritual search begins, one unwittingly plays a game of hide and seek where he or she simultaneously plays both parts! In Advaita, seeking is patently absurd because it implies a future time of finding. If all that exists is oneness, how can there be a past or future? Past and future are concepts in the mind, while the present momentright here, right nowis all that truly is. If there is an opposite to Advaita, it is the act of seeking! James Braha Stop all delays, all seeking and all striving. Put down your concepts, ideas and beliefs. For one instant be still and directly encounter the silent unknown core of your being. In that instant Freedom will embrace you and reveal the Awakening that you are. Adyashanti If all there is is Consciousness, if there is only Consciousness, then why or for what are you still seeking? If there is only Consciousness then right now you must be That and every thing else that appears in and as awareness must also be That, including any sense of separate self. Any appearance of mundane, ordinary existence can be no less of Consciousness than any appearance of unconditional love, wholeness, bliss, stillness, silence or anything else. Does anything really need to be transcended, found or let go of? Clarity By Nathan Gill STOP Striving! Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Wayne: The common question is, Is the guru necessary? My answer is that there are no requirements set forth by Consciousness. Consciousness can do anything It wants within the manifestation. Seeking is a phenomenal process, and that's what's crucial to understand-seeking is a phenomenal process. It happens within phenomenality; the various progressions that occur are in phenomenality; the impulse is in phenomenality; and the final event which is the dissolution of the seeking, actually the dissolution of personal doership, is in phenomenality. All that happens is in phenomenality. The result of the process of seeking is only notionally a result, because what it reveals is what is there all the time anyway. So there is really no progress in the absolute sense. Yet within the phenomenal structure of seeking and the seeker, the guru may play a role. In fact, in the lives of many seekers the guru is a figure central to the seeking. For those who have found a guru, who have found their true guru, there is no greater phenomenal experience. Wayne Liquorman, Advaita Fellowship -- student of Ramesh Balsekar The end of the search of the one who is seeking is the end of the seeker - it is the end of the experience of seeker-seeking-sought. This does not mean the end (or death) of the human mechanism (body, mind, personality), but rather the end of the identification as a separate me. Misc. It is essential to come to the point where you DECIDE that enough is enough. You decide that the seeking is over. You have already closed the door to problems and now you also stop seeking. All
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: English translation: The domes are falling apart, nobody wants to go there anymore, and we need more $$ to fix them. Sal On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:35 PM, bbrigante wrote: dome fees may go down to $25, Brahmastan land purchased in Nebraska: *** No problem - Neverland is now available Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well anecdotally, my teenage daughter who listens to music constantly said yesterday that she couldn't stand Led Zeppelin, thought their music was boring... Your daughter and I would get along; I *always* thought that. :-) ha ha! Yeah, she doesn't like the Beatles either, or sees them as hugely irrelevant anyway. Gotta say the last time I heard their stuff, I was unimpressed, though there is a soft spot in my heart for what they stood for back then. I really think a lot of it is the mix. I find the Beatles' recordings difficult to listen to these days, for that very reason. They sound artificial and tinny compared even to other music of the period, much less today's mixology. Possibly-- didn't really think about that, but it makes sense. With regard to my daughter though, she listens to a wide range of stuff from the 40's on, so its not purely the mix. For us boomers though, it [the beatles] was ground breaking music at the time, associated with challenging the status quo, and the world has changed so much since. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than A Day in the Life Every song on the album. I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. That's rubbish of course. But even John Lennon said short before his death, that the two biggest influences on his life were Yoko, and MMY. But without him, he still would have been a very creative Superstar. I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Surely the Beatles made MMY known to a larger audience. If none of us would have heard of him otherwise is something I simply do not know. The great wave of initiations came only in the early 70ies, 2 or 3 years after the split up of the Beatles. The involvement of the Beatles surely helped in the built up of this momentum, but I don't think that they can be exclusively credited for it. As it was known that the Beatles had taken to it, it was equally known that they had discarded it. When I started TM in 73, one of my schoolfriends warned me that it was a scam according to Lennon. I learned it nevertheless, luckily I must say in retrospect. I learned all about Sexy Sadie then already. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 9:41 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The album that pops to the top of my list for Best Album Ever -- right here, right now -- is Bob Marley's Exodus. And I'm not alone. Time magazine named that one the most important and influential record album of the twentieth century. Thanks. I'll check it out. A good place to do that is Rhapsody. For $10/month, you can listen to just about anything. I'm sure I'll find the album there. Undoubtedly. BTW, I made a mistake in my first post on this subject -- it was Newsweek that declared Exodus Album of the Century, not Time. It's very much reggae, but very spiritual if you can get into it. Newsweek's reasoning for picking this album had to do with its popularity and influence worldwide, not just in the US and Britain. Marley was basically a god to his fans in Africa, South America and the Caribbean. This album spoke to the poor and oppressed in those areas and gave them hope in a way that no other music did. It also inspired a number of populist revolutions. But basically I just love Marley. ( Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to be stoned to appreciate his music. :-) He walked the walk of his message. Towards the end of his life his income was larger than the GNP of Jamaica, but he never forgot where he came from. Every day at lunchtime, Marley threw open the gates of his estate and fed tens of thousands of people, anyone who showed up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The Value of Striving and Seeking
Since my copy of Jean Kleins I AM is out on loan I will paraphrase. Awakening is instantaneous. Clarity takes place in Space Time. The bottom line is that we have a real glimpse of what Awakening is about and afterwards become seekers. You can not seek what you do not know is out there. The act of seeking keeps one busy until one is found by the Self. Awakening is the Self finding the Self. Who knows if the seeking has any value. ONe does what one does while awaiting the inevitable. For most, in this group, probably found meditation after having some chemically induced insight. Once the intuition has the taste then we are on the path until we are not. TomT Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] ' Peace just a breath away, says Sharon Stone '
Peace just a breath away, says Sharon StoneMar 20 11:12 AM US/Eastern Email this story A peaceful co-existence between the peoples of the Middle East is but a breath away, Hollywood star Sharon Stone said after a highly publicized visit to Israel. "It feels to me that we have an opportunity ... to choose understanding in a new way," she told a press conference in Paris when asked about her trip. "And it really is just a breath. It's just an agreement that's just a breath. We are not far apart. We can choose to have this alternative kind of growth that is a collective nuance of understanding. "We are just that breath away from a peaceful co-existence," she added after her visit to Israel as a guest of the Peres Center for Peace, a foundation run by Nobel laureate and former Israeli prime minister Shimon Peres. Stone, 48, who visited several projects aimed at promoting peace, including a kindergarten for Israeli and Palestinian children in Jaffa, was also photographed praying at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, the holiest Jewish shrine. Stone, who is also an ardent champion of women's rights, was in Paris ahead of the release of her latest film "Basic Instinct II". She told journalists that she was delighted that women were stepping up to take their place in the world, taking on new jobs to which they brought something unique, "their feminine instinct." "This is a new and very exciting time for women, because women by their very nature are creative and not destructive. And this is an extraordinary and important thing that we can bring into a world that awaits the opportunity for peace." Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greatest Rock Albums, was: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 3:02 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheap Thrills After Bathing at Baxters Are You Experienced Disraili Gears How about Surrealistic Pillow? Great alblum, but I thought After Bathing at Baxters was the alblum when JA really found their sound. Surrealistic Pillow still had some fluff. I don't think I ever even listened to that one. I'll check it out. For me, Surrealistic Pillow captured the magic of the Summer of Love (1967). After Bathing at Baxter's captures what they were actually playing in the summer of 67. Seeing them live do these songs there was an intense, playful, creative sparkling energy coming from them. You could literally see it. Within a few notes, they quickly found their grove and just let go -- raising each other to higher and higher levels of peak performance. Surealistic Pillow was more their 66 sound, integrating Grace into the band. Though I loved SP when it was released, in retospect, it only has three good songs, IMO: She Has Funny Cars (Balin/Kaukonen) Somebody to Love (Slick/Slick) 3/5 of a Mile in 10 Seconds (Balin) Stuff like White Rabbit, while cool in the era the first 10 times it was heard, to me is today the poster child of over-played, overhyped, cliche songs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
on 3/20/06 10:00 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than A Day in the Life Every song on the album. I'll give it another listen, but as I recall most of the songs were performed with instruments the Beatles played themselves, enhanced with studio effects. Surely the Beatles made MMY known to a larger audience. If none of us would have heard of him otherwise is something I simply do not know. The great wave of initiations came only in the early 70ies, 2 or 3 years after the split up of the Beatles. There were two waves: Beatles wave, which I caught the tail end of, and Merv wave, which resulted when people in the Beatles wave had become initiators, and had built up enough initiations, including Merv, who was initiated by David Rosencrantz, who became a teacher in Estes Park, 1970. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
On Mar 20, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Regarding caste, Maharishi said at Amherst in 1971 that he opposed interracial marriage because the best qualities of both races are lost in the offspring. Also, he is alleged to have opposed the geographic intermingling of races, when it was brought to his attention that this was sometimes a point of tension in the US (e.g., segregation issues). Alain Danielou, whose guru was one of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati's primary disciples, wrote extensively of the pure Vedic and really pre- Vedic opinion on the caste system. They believed it was part of the natural order. Even if you destroy the caste system, if you leave things alone, they will naturally stratify back into the caste system. Danielou's one work on this topic once was only available in the original French, but recently has been translated into English as _Virtue, Success, Pleasure, and Liberation : The Four Aims of Life in the Tradition of Ancient India_. If you want to have your mind blown in regards to why democracy is an aberration and how the caste system reflects the real natural condition of society, you should read this book. From this POV, the idea that all people are created equal is one of the greatest lies ever perpetuated on human society. Higher education or education in domains which potentially could cause great harm to society should only be given to those with innate and excellent moral qualities. Danielou points out that a society who bases education and training for jobs on IQ testing are essentially already recognizing and recreating a new caste system based on an individuals innate skills and karma. He also says that interracial marriage creates an overwhelming feeling of ambiguity in children. The confusion thus created destroys the fabric and continuity in the transmission of the ancestral heritage of knowledge. Western dominance has pushed their colonial expansionist superior western ways on the last remaining tribes still extant from Satya-yuga when they dominated and assimilated Bharat (India). The idea of rajas or kings only arise in the Treta-yuga; it is not necessary in Satya-yuga. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Bob, Are you selling these on commission or something? How many times have you posted this in the last few months? This is the second time already today, and I know we've seen it at least a few times before. Sal On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: New Vegetable Subscription Program Offered It's probably priced like Maharishi Honey. Gotta raise cash for the Peace Corridor... JohnY *** Unlike the honey, the pricing seems reasonable to me, like $18/wk for a half subscription. For a complete vegetarian like myself, I spend about $2-4/day on veggies, so the pricing sounds affordable: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/91629 Bob, If you try it I hope you can report on quality/quantity versus price, campared to what is available locally to you now. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/20/06 7:19 AM, Patrick Gillam at jpgillam@ wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: (Courtesy of Graeme Lodge, National Leader of New Zealand) Raja Bob Wynn: 1800 sidhas here at Fairfield. More than Super Radiance number already, so instantly we can achieve goal. All 1800 have not been doing program together. Are all those 1,800 eligible for the Dome? No. Or have a significant number been blacklisted for participating in other programs? Yes. If they've been banned from the Dome, would they be allowed into a satellite superradiance facility? Not unless the rules change. How many are still doing their TM-Sidhi program, I wonder? Many have stopped. I don't suppose anybody knows. The Knower knows. * Hard numbers are hard to come by, but I would guess that there are no more than 100 former Siddhas (or practicing Siddhas who are barred from the domes) in Fairfield. So even if you deduct that 100 from the 1800 figure, there are still a potential 1700 Siddhas available if they lower the dome fees and start these satellite programs. It's (slightly) encouraging to see that the MUM PR people are no longer trying to pump the lie about 3000 Siddhas in Fairfield/VC , but have lowered the figure to a number more in line with what the actual numbers are. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html What are the current dome fees? If they lower the price, it may be a first Does the local raja fly in the dome? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
When I started TM in 73, one of my schoolfriends warned me that it was a scam according to Lennon. Which was incorrect. It wasn't a scam until 1976-1997, when the sidhis came out. --- t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, Sgt Pepper success and quality was partely due to the involvement of the London Symphoney Orchester, the orchestration for which was almost exclusively written by George Martin.The effort that was put into the album was immense. Which songs were they involved with? I can't think of any other than A Day in the Life Every song on the album. I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. That's rubbish of course. But even John Lennon said short before his death, that the two biggest influences on his life were Yoko, and MMY. But without him, he still would have been a very creative Superstar. I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Surely the Beatles made MMY known to a larger audience. If none of us would have heard of him otherwise is something I simply do not know. The great wave of initiations came only in the early 70ies, 2 or 3 years after the split up of the Beatles. The involvement of the Beatles surely helped in the built up of this momentum, but I don't think that they can be exclusively credited for it. As it was known that the Beatles had taken to it, it was equally known that they had discarded it. When I started TM in 73, one of my schoolfriends warned me that it was a scam according to Lennon. I learned it nevertheless, luckily I must say in retrospect. I learned all about Sexy Sadie then already. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global Family Chat March 18th
What are the current dome fees? If they lower the price, it may be a first Does the local raja fly in the dome? I doubt they'll lower the dome fees. My impression of the announcement is that the $25 rate would be only for the satellite flying halls. --- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/20/06 7:19 AM, Patrick Gillam at jpgillam@ wrote: --- bbrigante wrote: (Courtesy of Graeme Lodge, National Leader of New Zealand) Raja Bob Wynn: 1800 sidhas here at Fairfield. More than Super Radiance number already, so instantly we can achieve goal. All 1800 have not been doing program together. Are all those 1,800 eligible for the Dome? No. Or have a significant number been blacklisted for participating in other programs? Yes. If they've been banned from the Dome, would they be allowed into a satellite superradiance facility? Not unless the rules change. How many are still doing their TM-Sidhi program, I wonder? Many have stopped. I don't suppose anybody knows. The Knower knows. * Hard numbers are hard to come by, but I would guess that there are no more than 100 former Siddhas (or practicing Siddhas who are barred from the domes) in Fairfield. So even if you deduct that 100 from the 1800 figure, there are still a potential 1700 Siddhas available if they lower the dome fees and start these satellite programs. It's (slightly) encouraging to see that the MUM PR people are no longer trying to pump the lie about 3000 Siddhas in Fairfield/VC , but have lowered the figure to a number more in line with what the actual numbers are. Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates2006.html What are the current dome fees? If they lower the price, it may be a first Does the local raja fly in the dome? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I started TM in 73, one of my schoolfriends warned me that it was a scam according to Lennon. Which was incorrect. It wasn't a scam until 1976-1997, when the sidhis came out. It's never been a scam. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I agree with your observations. I was just responding to Peter's assertion that the Beatles would have been nothing without Maharishi's influence. This is ridiculous, Rick - I never said that :-) As you said, they had a nice career goping for themselves before they took contact with MMY. My proposition, which I didn't waste mine or any one else time on elaborating on (because I thought it would be evident), is that much of how the Beatles and it's members today are remembered is due to MMY's influence. If you don't get this I am not going to waste my time explaining it. If you want to understand it, start looking at how these four young men changed frmo their contact with MMY and the direction their creativity took after that, also after the Beatles broke up. Would Life of Brian ever have seen the light of day without MMY, for example? I think one could argue the opposite: that none of us would have heard of Maharishi, wouldn't have learned TM, and wouldn't have been having this discussion because this forum wouldn't have existed without the Beatles' influence. Having visited this group on and off for some time now I think the world just might have been a better place without the Beatles / MMY thing. I say because what I meet here are a collection of grumpy oldish people who project the failures they perceive in their own lives on some external factor totally unrelated to this failure. Why cling to this never-ending whining about the TMO? If you really don't like it, just let it be. Or maybe you don't have anything else? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
A governor friend told me MMY also said the children would not be able to cognize the Vedas. --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding caste, Maharishi said at Amherst in 1971 that he opposed interracial marriage because the best qualities of both races are lost in the offspring. Also, he is alleged to have opposed the geographic intermingling of races, when it was brought to his attention that this was sometimes a point of tension in the US (e.g., segregation issues). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding caste, Maharishi said at Amherst in 1971 that he opposed interracial marriage because the best qualities of both races are lost in the offspring. Also, he is alleged to have opposed the geographic intermingling of races, when it was brought to his attention that this was sometimes a point of tension in the US (e.g., segregation issues). Another way to put this is to say that the outcome of mixing two (or more) races is based on the lowest common denomimator found with each race. I wonder what the upshot would be if the existence of a whole continent on this precept, i.e. mixing races from all over the world? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Bob, Are you selling these on commission or something? How many times have you posted this in the last few months? This is the second time already today, and I know we've seen it at least a few times before. Sal On Mar 19, 2006, at 7:37 PM, bbrigante wrote: New Vegetable Subscription Program Offered It's probably priced like Maharishi Honey. Gotta raise cash for the Peace Corridor... JohnY *** Unlike the honey, the pricing seems reasonable to me, like $18/wk for a half subscription. For a complete vegetarian like myself, I spend about $2-4/day on veggies, so the pricing sounds affordable: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/91629 Bob, If you try it I hope you can report on quality/quantity versus price, campared to what is available locally to you now. JohnY I'm out of range -- I'm sure there's somebody on this list who will sign up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm out of range -- I'm sure there's somebody on this list who will sign up. Bob You still in Bakersfield (or thereabouts)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: I'm out of range -- I'm sure there's somebody on this list who will sign up. Bob You still in Bakersfield (or thereabouts)? Around San Bernardino, smog and lowrider capital of California Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
on 3/20/06 11:05 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around San Bernardino, smog and lowrider capital of California Why that area? Family roots? Job? Lake Arrowhead? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veggie subscription program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/20/06 11:05 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Around San Bernardino, smog and lowrider capital of California Why that area? Family roots? Job? Lake Arrowhead? ** It's amazing to run into bears in the San Bernardino mountains, which I have, just a few miles away from downtown Los Angeles. And who could fail to be captivated by the crime and pollution? But the real reason is my passion for lowriding: http://lowridermagazine.com/lowridertour/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote: snip P.S.When I read your posts I have quite often got the impression that you excersice hairsplitting to divert attention away from the main theme or the main problem the poster is successfully presenting. When you cannot disprove the claims of the poster, you start hairsplitting with unessential details. This happens possibly because you have a preset agenda to defend, not because you wouldn't understand. You cannot allow any bigger cracks to your aim, just small ones so you can keep people perceiving you with some credibility. You do understand, but you are not in a position to be able to freely look at phenomenon and investigate ideas and claims with an open mind, which could lead to conclusions not fitting to your preset goal. P.S.: Irmeli, you might want to think about why you felt the need to launch an ad hominem attack at me when my responses to you contained no ad hominem at all. I have not the slightest idea what ad hominem means. I checked my dictionary of foreign words and the closest item there was ad honorem, but I suppose you don't mean it. Why you got the rant was because I felt you were resorting to hair-splitting with my post to divert attention away from the essentials of my criticism. The sentence you picked up form MMY:s talk was not in line with the spirit of the talk for caste system in general. Did you really read my first comment on the talk? I state my claim in different words, maybe you will better get it. In the talk MMY's claims that castes are unavoidable because it is how nature works. Nobody can make or unmake caste system. Mango is one caste. Apple is one caste. You cannot unmake caste system, similarly as you cannot unmake different fruits to appear. He makes many wrong simplifications and generalizations in the talk. And that leads him to the wrong conclusion, that caste system is as inevitable as it is inevitable that mangos and apples are different fruit. But caste system can be unmade and it will when the society in India evolves. Wrong categorizing leads him to wrong conclusions. Categorizing and grouping can be made of course in many ways, but certain rules must be obeyed just as in mathematics. People's intelligence is often tested by asking them to place items in alternative groups. Only one is correct. I also criticized you because I have generally got quite weary of your hair-splitting responds to many other posters here. This has lead to the situation that I don't read your posts. You are intelligent and have a lot of deep understanding and insight. Without hair-splitting you could do much better. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding caste, Maharishi said at Amherst in 1971 that he opposed interracial marriage because the best qualities of both races are lost in the offspring. Also, he is alleged to have opposed the geographic intermingling of races, when it was brought to his attention that this was sometimes a point of tension in the US (e.g., segregation issues). *** Caste in India is a rigid system of social classes based on birth. You can see interracial marriages to be problematic for other reasons than because they are frobidden in Indian caste system. When people from different cultural backgrounds marry more challenges are to be expected than usual. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danielou points out that a society who bases education and training for jobs on IQ testing are essentially already recognizing and recreating a new caste system based on an individuals innate skills and karma. *** This is not an Indian caste system. I quote what I have written earlier here on this topic: Caste in India is a rigid system of social classes based on birth. This rigidity brings with it awful, unnatural tensions. All children are not born with the same inclinations and capacities as their parents. Societies in which there are no rigid caste systems are doing much better than those, which have it. Caste can be undone. On the other hand hierarchies and differentiations cannot be undone. They form a pillar of a well functioning society. In modern societies hierarchies are more and more based on competence and capacity to take responsibility. MMY uses apparently the concept caste for hierarchies and for the different roles people have in society. And the he proceeds to announce that the rigid caste system is inevitable natural law. It is not. But hierarchies and specializations seem to be crucial to a society. And as societies evolve we are getting away from suppressive dominator hierarchies. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S.: Irmeli, you might want to think about why you felt the need to launch an ad hominem attack at me when my responses to you contained no ad hominem at all. I have not the slightest idea what ad hominem means. I checked my dictionary of foreign words and the closest item there was ad honorem, but I suppose you don't mean it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Latest press conference
Having visited this group on and off for some time now I think the world just might have been a better place without the Beatles / MMY thing. I say because what I meet here are a collection of grumpy oldish people who project the failures they perceive in their own lives on some external factor totally unrelated to this failure. Could be- The world is as we are... Why cling to this never-ending whining about the TMO? If you really don't like it, just let it be. Or maybe you don't have anything else? Well, we could just: 'Give Peace a Chance'? Anyone remember that one? That was post/Rishikesh... Perhaps it was just a collision of Icons. MMY and The Beatles... I guess you had to be there; but like they say, if you remember the sixties, you weren't there... In any case, we can say without any doubt, that anyone who came in contact with the Beatles music and creativity was changed in some way. And likewise, anyone who has come in contact with Maharishi, would have an impact, some more than others, of course. In a way, the year which they were with Maharishi, 1968, was similar politically to now; with rising disenchantment with the government, and increasing dissent concerning an insane and unpopular war. So, in a way, it's like the light of consciousness, and the lack thereof , playing out on the world stage; With the balance being able to be pushed in either direction...in '68 it took a very dark direction. Hopefully,this time cycle will rise in a more postitive direction, as Maharishi predicts, of peace, and just better policy decisions, we will start to notice; the old way is not working anymore... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Chaos and Coltrane
The solid Newtonian universe involving such immutable concepts as mass, force, momentum, and inertia has long been repealed. That dull, dependable, predictable General Motors universe has been transformed into shimmering Quantum electronic possibilities. It seems that it all comes down to programs, information, and rhythms-- endlessly complexifying with unpredictable results. In other words, John Coltrane. In fact, the wonderful thing about chaos is its unpredictability. Complex random processes coalesce into approximately repeating cycles. Approximate, but not perfect, repetition. These strange attractors express chaotic behaviors whose rhythms drift. Ultimately, chaos tells us that we can't predict the future with any precision. Unpredictability is inherent in living systems, art, romance, and gourmet cutlery. (page 16, Design for Dying, Timothy Leary). ---=-=-= om==-=- Nick Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Caste system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to have your mind blown in regards to why democracy is an aberration and how the caste system reflects the real natural condition of society, you should read this book. From this POV, the idea that all people are created equal is one of the greatest lies ever perpetuated on human society. Higher education or education in domains which potentially could cause great harm to society should only be given to those with innate and excellent moral qualities. History has already proved this kind of reasoning wrong. That people are not created equal is probably true, but not the idea that education should not be given to all people. Societies were a lot of people are illiterate or have poor education are left behind, suppressive, and often violent. Finland's school system is considered to be one of the best in the world by its results. Here the weaker students get a lot of support, not necessarily the talented ones. We concentrate less on spurring talented students. The resources are directed for everyone being literate and getting a vocational training. If you are under 25 and you are jobless, you lose your unemployment benefit, if you don't engage yourself in some training program. Giving everyone a chance in life, and making even the weaker individuals feel that they are accepted and useful and important members of societies is the best prevention of harmful tendencies. Also democracy works much better, when people in general are well educated. Good educations provides better means of making one's own judgements. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
