[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig.
[FairfieldLife] 'Machiavellianism'
Machiavellianism is primarily the term some social and personality psychologists use to describe a person's tendency to deceive and manipulate others for personal gain. The concept is named after Renaissance diplomat and writer Niccolò Machiavelli, who wrote Il Principe (The Prince), though the concept can be found as far back as Chanakya's Arthashastra. (Machiavellianism can also refer to the doctrine Machiavelli established, although that is not the subject of this article.) In 1970 Richard Christie and Florence L. Geis developed a test for measuring a person's level of Machiavellianism. This eventually became the MACH-IV test, a twenty-statement personality survey that is now the standard self-assessment tool of Machiavellianism. People scoring above 60 out of 100 on the MACH-IV are considered high Machs; that is, they endorsed statements such as, Never tell anyone the real reason you did something unless it is useful to do so, (No. 1) but not ones like, Most people are basically good and kind (No. 4). People scoring below 60 out of 100 on the MACH-IV are considered low Machs; they tend to believe, There is no excuse for lying to someone else, (No. 7) and, Most people who get ahead in the world lead clean, moral lives (No. 11). High MachsHigh Machs tend to take a more detached, calculating approach in their interaction with other people, such as the famous Dimitar Stamatov. They tend to believe most people are concerned only with their own well-being and to depend too much on anyone else is foolish. They believe the best way to get by is to use deception, rewards, promises, flattery, and even punishments to manipulate others into doing their bidding. To them, power may be more important than love. In terms of Big Five personality traits, Machiavellians tend to be low on agreeableness and conscientiousness. Some scholars and researchers have attempted to find a correlation between Machiavellianism and narcissistic personality disorder and psychopathy. It could be understood that psychopaths and sociopaths have a similar disposition that could be identified with Machiavellianism, for sociopaths are known for manipulation and cunning. Sociopaths, however, generally have difficulty realising or understanding the concepts of right and wrong, and tend not to have much regard for consequences. On the other hand, High Machs perhaps more or less view as Machiavelli did, and simply believe that while right and wrong have reality (at least to most people), that it is impractical to be ethical all the time, and that perhaps there is a difference between outright deception or exploitation, and subtle spins on the truth for the sake of what is seen (subjectively) as a more important cause that is not recognised by both parties. However, it may be difficult to distinguish between the two, because both types exhibit similar tendencies, often while considering it important to mask or misrepresent their motives. Furthermore, true High Machs (as opposed to sociopaths) tend to take consequences very seriously, and when dedicated to a course of action which may backfire, it is usually because the potential consequences have been weighed quite carefully and the High Mach is prepared to be responsible if blame cannot be deflected sufficiently. Robert Altemeyer found a correlation between Social dominance orientation and Machiavellianism. Low MachsLow Machs tend to take a more personal, empathic approach in their interaction with other people. They tend to be more trusting of others and more honest. They believe humans are essentially good natured. At the extreme, low Machs are passive, submissive, and highly agreeable. They also tend to believe that everyone has a good and bad side, but most are kind. See also Machiavellian intelligence Antisocial personality disorder Social dominance orientation Cynicism Egoism Narcissism Niccolò Machiavelli The Prince Anti-Machiavel Splackavellie Sigmund Freud Chanakya - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush and the America Invincibility Course/ Dome Policies
The TMO does not understand what is happening, nor the real mechanics of communal TM-Sidhing. Your question and comments suggests that neither do you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting chart observation I wonder if he's Kaalp dosh. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Bush and the America Invincibility Course/ Dome Policies When I look at President Bush's astrological chart it only takes two minutes to figure out he has no interest in others opinion but his own. All ten planets in the Western chart are on the eastern side (left side) which deals with his own needs. People who have planets on the right side of the chart are interested in feedback from others. He has not planets there. America is slow moving here when it comes to President Bush and the problems he has created internationally. Violence in Lebanon is starting to act up again and the last three days the violence in Iraq is increasing. America Invincibility course could use more Sidha's. Maharishi's organization needs to relax the conservative policies for Sidha's to fly in the dome. Anyone teaching astrology, healing, Yoga or any form of meditation, hugging another saint and taking a shit sideways on the toilet seat will not be allowed in the dome. Many are getting away with it. My point: Does the TMO really want world peace or are they just too concerned with their own individual agenda and missing the mark when it comes to the needs of the collective. Lou Valentino
[FairfieldLife] You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried every
Hearing GWB's state of the nation speech, it appears that the White House has finally exhausted all alternatives to mess up the so-called War on Terror and now just might be about to do a number of things right. The problem, of course, is that even an America that does everything right, can only do so much. Iran will still be Iran..
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer invented the vaj persona so he could make posts like this without being directly identified with them (coward as well as liar) It's now official -- the worst of the TM fanatics are now on the same level as the worst of Christian fanatics or Neo-Conservative fanatics. For those who *aren't* so one-dimensional, I think it would be good :-) to remember to ask oneself one important question when reading the sometimes crtical posts of Vaj or Rick or even myself. That question is, Is this person FOR anything, or *only* AGAINST? When it comes to John Knapp and his misguided cam- paign, as well as many who contribute to his new blog, the answer is clearly, Only AGAINST. I've *never* seen John post anything positive about self-discovery. That is clearly NOT true about Vaj, or about Rick. Both have strong practices of their own, both are capable of posting uplift- ing and inspiring information on this forum. They both occasionally post something negative about TM or Maharishi, but there is a lot of negative *TO* legitimately post about TM and Maharishi. Those who attempt to paint these multi-dimensional seekers as one-dimensional attack dogs are IMO revealing their own lack of breadth, spiritually. Those who go even further -- like Nablus who says they are being *paid* to disseminate false info about TM and Maharishi, or this clown, who believes they adopt false identities to do so -- are just off the deep end, class-A religious fanatics. And what's saddest to me is when these fanatics manage to infect the usually more rational, open-minded TMers here with their insanity, as seems to have happened lately with Jim. All in all, I can only *commend* Rick once again for having started this forum, in which a few of the more open-minded seekers can exchange information and learn from each other. It's just a pain in the ass sometimes when the fanatics -- on either side -- try to dominate it and turn it into a showcase for their rock-solid, immovable belief systems and the damage that's done to their psyches. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Jonathan Chadwick wrote: I remember Swami Swaroopananda telling Kropinski that, because of M's caste, SBS wouldnever have told M. to teach. But that's different from saying that SBS actually said something, one way or the other, to deter M. It was something like 'go to the mountains and meditate' and a further comment 'Mahesh, you'll never be good at anything but making money'. It's been said SBS was very harsh on him. (BTW, I'm a fan of Buddhism: 20 years ago I was perhaps the first person in the midwest to teach an entire undergraduate course on Nishida Nishitani; I always told the students that the fulness of samadhi is to absolute nothingness as coffee w/lots of cream and suger is to good old black water, i.e., historically speaking, the black water came first). Hey, you could sell that to Starbucks! :-)
[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 5
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11. It seems to be called iikSatyaadyadhikaraNam (iikSati? +ACs- aadi? +ACs- adhikaraNam; typically, the [possible] long vowels are not indicated on http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs+ACs-ACs-ACs-ACs-AF8-1/1-1-05.html; furthermore, sh as in shiva is written as plain s, as in siva pro shiva, and sankara pro shankara, and on that page asabdam pro ashabdam, aaarrrghh!) The 5th suutra: ikSaternaashabdam (iikSateH; na +ACs- ashabdam) Glossary: iikSateH ?? because it's seen nanot azabda mfn. soundless S3Br. xiv A1p. TPra1t. ; not Vedic Jaim. Attempt at literal tranlation: from its being seen?? not not Vedic Swami's translation: On account of seeing (i.e. thinking being attributed in the Upanishads to the First Cause, the Pradhana) is not (the first cause indicated by the Upanishads; for) it (Pradhana) is not based on the scriptures.
[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 6
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11.
Suutra 6:
gauNashcennaatmashabdaat (gauNaH; cet; na + aatma-shabdaat)
Glossary:
gauNa mf(%{I})n. (fr. %{guNa4}) , relating to a quality MBh. xii ,
13138 f. ; having qualities , attributive W. ; subordinate ,
secondary , unessential MBh. xii , xiii Pat. KapS. c. (with %
{karman} , [in Gr.] the less immediate object of an action Vop.
xxiv , 13) [369,2] ; *metaphorical , figurative* W. ;
secondary (applied to the month reckoned from full moon to full
moon) W. ; relating to multiplication or enumeration W.
ced conj. (= {ca + i3d}) and; also, even (w. prec. {api}); when,
***if*** (often prec. by {iti} = if thus, in this case). {atha ced}
but if. {na ced (cenna}) or {no ced} if not, else. Rarely {yadi ced
= ced} alone.
zabda m. sound, cry, noise, call, word, speech, the sacred
syllable Om, name, term, title. {zabdaM kR} or {dA} raise the voice,
call aloud; {zabdena} by word i.e. explicitly.
Translation, sort of:
Figurative if, not because of word aatma.
If it be said that (the word 'seeing' or thinking) is used in a
secondary sense, (we say) not so, because of the word Atman being
applied to the cause of the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 6
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11.
Suutra 7:
tanniSThasya mokSopadeshaat (tat+niSThasya; mokSa+upadeshaat)
Glossary:
ta pron. stem of 3^d pers. (cf. {sa3}; n. {ta3d} q.v.) he, she, it;
this, that (adj. subst.), also = the def. article.
(Whoa, this is cool! Never thought that Sanskrit has
a def. article!)
niSTha a. staying, lying, being, resting, footing, dependent, or
intent upon; relating, attached, or devoted to (---),
(niSTha-sya: genitive singular, of a niSTha one)
mokSa m. deliverance, release from (abl., gen., or ---), esp. final
emancipation, death; loosening, unbinding, solution (of a question),
shedding (of tears or blood), uttering (of a curse), throwing,
shooting off; scattering, strewing; giving up, abandoning.
upadeza m. hint, direction, advice, instruction; indicatory or
conventional form (g.).
Translation
Of that-devoted, because of mokSa-upadesha.
Swami's translation:
(The Pradhana cannot be designated by the term Self) because
Salvation is declared to one who is devoted to that Sat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Yeah he's been in my spam filter for a while now since his posts started appearing rather unbalanced and off the wall. With imbalanced awakenings, there's always hope a person retains the wisdom to seek help before it's too late and I wish him the best. Unfortunately with unusual awakenings--esp. waking up alone--if there's an imbalance it often just gets worse as there's no authentic teacher to guide the student. It's one thing to provide a technique that awaken shakti but it's quite another to know what to do when she takes an errant path.
[FairfieldLife] WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. Doing the ME in Fairfield Iowa is the issue not Iraq. If you have no faith left in what Maharishi is doing or has done than just move on. It is no wonder that the TMO gets away with silly guidelines that are fundamentalist in nature. They have a Fairfield community that doesn't know how to organize at the grass roots level to make a statement to the TMO about how their policies are hurting the world. Instead people get on the FFL forum and become isolated opinion minds who would rather spend their time criticizing people like myself who are offering other ways to change the situation. And if the situation cannot be changed then an alternative approach would be more creative that accomplishes the goal that Maharishi wanted. We have huge problems on this planet. Spiritual organizations that don't know how to work together with most of the leaders from India and spiritual communities that have given up on creative solutions that would continue the process of human evolution to build self-empowerment. Start looking at yourselves as the new leaders of the world. And get ready for Maharishi not being around anymore by the end of this summer. Both the Fairfield community and the TMO will be going through a basti. With all of the shit that is backed up in the fundamentalist digestive system of the TMO and all of the waste that is floating around in the Fairfield community, the outcome will need some direction or it could destroy everything Maharishi worked for. Fairfield will either prosper to a different level or it will become a ghost town after Maharishi's departure. How do you want Fairfield Iowa to look or operate after Maharishi's death? You can continue to judge him or take what he has taught us and use our creative intelligence to create a world filled with love and joy. A wonderful opportunity is upon us. Choices will be made. People will be saying all kinds of things. Leaders for Maharishi will be fighting over who is the true owner of the piece of golden pie that the organization has created for itself. You may ask -well Lou what are you going to do about it? I will be moving to Fairfield Iowa by the middle of April 2007. I will try to present my own creative solutions to many of the issues that will come up. I will morn with the community as we let go of the greatest meditation teacher that this planet has seen. With all of the controversies that surround MMY he is still very difficult to replace. My visit to Fairfield for eight days from Jan 8th to 15th was very interesting. I experienced the conservative fundamentalist attitude from the dept of cons. and the more liberal feeling from the Farifield community. I was impressed with the wide spectrum of experiences in the spiritual and artistic realm of life. I have friends on both sides of the fence. I do understand what has been going on in the TMO and how some people have been isolated by following their own inner voice. My biggest problem is the strict guidelines that turn away Sidha's from the dome. Also, the meditators continue to be put to the side as if they are less than in comparison to the Sidha's. This is the wrong approach. I have been told by Saint Anthony who is channeled through a dear friend of mine that Maharishi did not set up the guidelines for the department for the development of consciousness. That the leaders in America of the TMO set them up. That Maharishi is tired of dealing with these issues. Personally I think Maharishi should deal with these issues and clear them up now. I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. I wouldn't doubt a spaceship landing in those open wide corn fields after Maharishi passes over and out comes Maharishi introducing us to Guru Dev who informs the TMO that they are off the program and need to lighten up. He may even tell them to leave Lou Valentino alone. I happen to know that he likes me. Guru Dev after all is the CEO of the TMO. Anyway, a very interesting journey and I'm looking at purchasing some property off of main street. I did not feel a welcoming
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer invented the vaj persona so he could make posts like this without being directly identified with them (coward as well as liar) That is highly unlikely. A quick check of the headers reveals that Rick's posts originate in Fairfield from a LISCO IP address: nslookup 63.162.80.162 Canonical name: 63-162-80-162.lisco.net While Vaj's posts originate from an Earthlink IP and email address: nslookup 209.86.89.68 Canonical name: elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net Technically, it would be possible for Rick to post as a Vaj persona from an Earthlink IP and email address while in Fairfield, but it would be ridiculous to go to all that trouble when he could simply have his Vaj subscription to FFL configured to hide his email address and IP.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jan 23, 2007, at 6:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
snip
Now whether in the end it helped or hindered in the overall
scheme of things, we may never know. Many were helped and
many were harmed.
Documentation?
If you haven't heard stuff like the following, you should take
your head out of the sand my friend! It's rather sad to say this
only scrapes the surface:
List of TM Casualties
This is what you call documentation,
anonymous, unverified old stories from John
Knapp's hate site Trancenet??
Oh, and funny, but you didn't provide even *that*
much for the claim that Guru Dev told MMY not to
teach
The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to
his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru
Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. There
is no room to discuss anything when that chump is spouting off,
except to counter his unbridled crap.
There used to be people, I for one, who enjoyed sharing and
discussing experiences of enlightenment here. But the jealous little
faux-Buddhist couldn't stand that. He has never shared personal
experiences except to make some point about his 'empty mind'
meditation ('empty heart' is more like it...), and to think that he
calls himself a Buddhist is an embarassment to Buddhists globally.
I have been in the company of many Buddhists, in Japan, Indonesia,
and Hong Kong, and none of them acted with the lack of heart and
acceptance as this asshole does. So he can continue to be an asshole
since that's all he can do, and I'll call him on it every time he
does.
Maybe he will get tired of being described for what he is and fuck
off, and we can get back to discussing what made this place pretty
special for those truly interested in enlightenment.
On the other hand, he mentioned to Peter S. not long ago that he
wanted to open a chain of hate centers or something, so perhaps he
enjoys being nasty and dark. Well, let's just see how much he enjoys
it, shall we? :-)
Dude, even toxic ego drama is wholeness.
[FairfieldLife] KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 8
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11. Suutra 8: heyavattvaavacanaacca? (heyavattva? +ACs-ACs-ACs-ACs- avacanaat; ca) Glossary: heyavattva? fitness to be discarded? The devanaagarii here: http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/bs+ACs-ACs-ACs-AF8-1/1-1-05.html has heyavattva, but the transliterated text below it has heyatva. The transliterated here: http://sanskritdocuments.org/doc+ACs-ACs-ACs-AF8-yoga/brahma+ACs-ACs-ACs-AF8-suutra.itx has heyavattva and here heyatva: http://www.philosophy.ru/library/asiatica/indica/sutra/vedanta/hk.html avacanan. absence of a special assertion Ka1tyS3r. +ACs-ACs-ACs-ACY-c. ; (mfn.) not expressing anything Jaim. ; not speaking , silent S3ak. Swami's tranlation: And (the Pradhana cannot be denoted by the word 'Self'), because it is not stated (by the scriptures) that It (Sat) has to be discarded. (Sorry, if those links don't function. I don't know where the heck those control charaters [ACs, etc.], or whatever, come from.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Indeed, time will tell if its destined to be or a house of cards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. Doing the ME in Fairfield Iowa is the issue not Iraq. If you have no faith left in what Maharishi is doing or has done than just move on. It is no wonder that the TMO gets away with silly guidelines that are fundamentalist in nature. They have a Fairfield community that doesn't know how to organize at the grass roots level to make a statement to the TMO about how their policies are hurting the world. Instead people get on the FFL forum and become isolated opinion minds who would rather spend their time criticizing people like myself who are offering other ways to change the situation. And if the situation cannot be changed then an alternative approach would be more creative that accomplishes the goal that Maharishi wanted. We have huge problems on this planet. Spiritual organizations that don't know how to work together with most of the leaders from India and spiritual communities that have given up on creative solutions that would continue the process of human evolution to build self-empowerment. Start looking at yourselves as the new leaders of the world. And get ready for Maharishi not being around anymore by the end of this summer. Both the Fairfield community and the TMO will be going through a basti. With all of the shit that is backed up in the fundamentalist digestive system of the TMO and all of the waste that is floating around in the Fairfield community, the outcome will need some direction or it could destroy everything Maharishi worked for. Fairfield will either prosper to a different level or it will become a ghost town after Maharishi's departure. How do you want Fairfield Iowa to look or operate after Maharishi's death? You can continue to judge him or take what he has taught us and use our creative intelligence to create a world filled with love and joy. A wonderful opportunity is upon us. Choices will be made. People will be saying all kinds of things. Leaders for Maharishi will be fighting over who is the true owner of the piece of golden pie that the organization has created for itself. You may ask -well Lou what are you going to do about it? I will be moving to Fairfield Iowa by the middle of April 2007. I will try to present my own creative solutions to many of the issues that will come up. I will morn with the community as we let go of the greatest meditation teacher that this planet has seen. With all of the controversies that surround MMY he is still very difficult to replace. My visit to Fairfield for eight days from Jan 8th to 15th was very interesting. I experienced the conservative fundamentalist attitude from the dept of cons. and the more liberal feeling from the Farifield community. I was impressed with the wide spectrum of experiences in the spiritual and artistic realm of life. I have friends on both sides of the fence. I do understand what has been going on in the TMO and how some people have been isolated by following their own inner voice. My biggest problem is the strict guidelines that turn away Sidha's from the dome. Also, the meditators continue to be put to the side as if they are less than in comparison to the Sidha's. This is the wrong approach. I have been told by Saint Anthony who is channeled through a dear friend of mine that Maharishi did not set up the guidelines for the department for the development of consciousness. That the leaders in America of the TMO set them up. That Maharishi is tired of dealing with these issues. Personally I think Maharishi should deal with these issues and clear them up now. I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. I wouldn't doubt a spaceship landing in those open wide corn fields after Maharishi passes over and out comes Maharishi introducing us to Guru Dev who informs the TMO that they are off the program and need to lighten up. He may even tell them to leave Lou Valentino alone. I happen to
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. I've been reading too much of the 'Overheard in New York' website lately, so I'll try to explain one possible reason in New York-ese: Yo! Bitchin' about the policies won't change them; you don't have any say about them. Complaining about them is like pissing into the wind. It makes you feel better, but the people standing around you tend to get as splattered as you do. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? Maybe not for the TMO but it will change the direction the wind is blowing when Maharishi passes over and you better hope the piss doesn't land on your face. How's that for New York language. JGD.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Lou, I see you are still outstanding in your own field ;-) --- Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed, time will tell if its destined to be or a house of cards --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. Doing the ME in Fairfield Iowa is the issue not Iraq. If you have no faith left in what Maharishi is doing or has done than just move on. It is no wonder that the TMO gets away with silly guidelines that are fundamentalist in nature. They have a Fairfield community that doesn't know how to organize at the grass roots level to make a statement to the TMO about how their policies are hurting the world. Instead people get on the FFL forum and become isolated opinion minds who would rather spend their time criticizing people like myself who are offering other ways to change the situation. And if the situation cannot be changed then an alternative approach would be more creative that accomplishes the goal that Maharishi wanted. We have huge problems on this planet. Spiritual organizations that don't know how to work together with most of the leaders from India and spiritual communities that have given up on creative solutions that would continue the process of human evolution to build self-empowerment. Start looking at yourselves as the new leaders of the world. And get ready for Maharishi not being around anymore by the end of this summer. Both the Fairfield community and the TMO will be going through a basti. With all of the shit that is backed up in the fundamentalist digestive system of the TMO and all of the waste that is floating around in the Fairfield community, the outcome will need some direction or it could destroy everything Maharishi worked for. Fairfield will either prosper to a different level or it will become a ghost town after Maharishi's departure. How do you want Fairfield Iowa to look or operate after Maharishi's death? You can continue to judge him or take what he has taught us and use our creative intelligence to create a world filled with love and joy. A wonderful opportunity is upon us. Choices will be made. People will be saying all kinds of things. Leaders for Maharishi will be fighting over who is the true owner of the piece of golden pie that the organization has created for itself. You may ask -well Lou what are you going to do about it? I will be moving to Fairfield Iowa by the middle of April 2007. I will try to present my own creative solutions to many of the issues that will come up. I will morn with the community as we let go of the greatest meditation teacher that this planet has seen. With all of the controversies that surround MMY he is still very difficult to replace. My visit to Fairfield for eight days from Jan 8th to 15th was very interesting. I experienced the conservative fundamentalist attitude from the dept of cons. and the more liberal feeling from the Farifield community. I was impressed with the wide spectrum of experiences in the spiritual and artistic realm of life. I have friends on both sides of the fence. I do understand what has been going on in the TMO and how some people have been isolated by following their own inner voice. My biggest problem is the strict guidelines that turn away Sidha's from the dome. Also, the meditators continue to be put to the side as if they are less than in comparison to the Sidha's. This is the wrong approach. I have been told by Saint Anthony who is channeled through a dear friend of mine that Maharishi did not set up the guidelines for the department for the development of consciousness. That the leaders in America of the TMO set them up. That Maharishi is tired of dealing with these issues. Personally I think Maharishi should deal with these issues and clear them up now. I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. I wouldn't doubt a
[FairfieldLife] The chakras and Aum mentioned in the Bible...
Revelation 1:10 I was in the spirit (meditation) on the Lords day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet. Aummm. Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me, I saw seven golden candlesticks Revelation 1:16 And 'he' had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword. St. John saw the seven spiritual/astral centers of lightand it was good! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? I know that nothing you say will change them. As far as the TM organization goes, you are a nonentity. You do not exist. Nor do I, or many of the people here. The only people who could influence the dome policies in Fairfield do not read this list, and never will. In your original post today (which you *still* have not learned to include in your replies so that people here know what the hell you're referring to), you complain (and that *is* the word) about people who isolate themselves on FFL. Welcome to the Isolation Ward. :-) You're speaking to people who mainly agree with you but who, unlike you, have had to come to grips with the cold, hard facts about the TM movement, which are that their feedback and suggestions are not welcome and will never be heard, much less addressed. I was just trying to clue you in to that. Maybe not for the TMO but it will change the direction the wind is blowing when Maharishi passes over and you better hope the piss doesn't land on your face. How's that for New York language. JGD. You'll be a nonentity when Maharishi passes over, too. You'll have no more say in the policies of the TM organization then than you do now. Get used to it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848 Why would he bother? He could just delete it--you know, like you and Vaj do with the posts you've made that you're embarrassed about.
Re: [FairfieldLife] WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
On Jan 24, 2007, at 6:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also in the process of making contact with a top person in the TMO to let him know what it going on in Fairfield Iowa. Good luck with that, Lou. Many of MMY leaders forget what its like in the real world. Understatement of the year. As I meditated and did my Sidhi's program out in my rental car in the parking lot of the domes You went to more trouble than most of us would have--there's other places for doing group program than the Domes. I got a good dosage of what its like to be judged for being an astrologer, yoga teacher and a teacher of meditation. You may ask, why is Lou even doing this? Putting himself in this position? Because I needed to experience first hand what goes on in the department for the development of cons. because it was 26 years ago that I had been to Fairfield. Wow. Not a change in the energy of the TMO. None, actually, that I can see. We are headed for a showdown by the end of this year. At the OK Corral? I did not feel a welcoming energy at Vedic City. They treated me like I was from outer space. Welcome to what passes for friendliness in the TMO. Well, they could be right Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Er, whose sock puppet am I supposed to be?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Er, whose sock puppet am I supposed to be? Doesn't matter. This is from a guy for whom rationality is optional, after all--to be invoked when it can be used as a putdown of those he doesn't agree with, and eschewed when he needs to excuse his own illogic and inconsistency.
[FairfieldLife] FF Library
Dear Fairfield Community, Due to Govt cutbacks this year the library lost $40,000 in funds that would have been used to upgrade the book and DVD section. I am sure many of you have noticed that very few new books and movies have been coming in since the fall and I thought I would just put out this suggestion . Please pass it along to your friends. If you have any good , I mean really good books and movies. Not the stuff you have sitting on your bookshelf collecting dust because someone gave it to you and you'll never read it cause it looks boring or the DVD that was a hot release 6 years ago and everyone has already seen it . But the good material that you enjoyed and don't have time or inclination to read or watch again. Especially best selling new books. Please donate them to the library. . If you love your library Its understandable, how about donating 10% of the books. ,give the ones that you could let go but just haven't given much thought to it. Its New years and we can all start the new year by simplifying our life and getting rid of some of that huge load of samkararas , remember its best to travel as light as possible here and in the hereafter so this is a good place to start. love radhika PS. I read this somewhere but cant remember the author. Train yourself to let go of everything you are afraid to lose. PSS sorry that your names always show on my emails. someday Ill figure out the BCC and please don't email me how to do it ifyou want to come show me that's fine. PSSS also a great gift is donating a book or magazine subscription to the library in honor of a friends birthday . they can enjoy it and so can many others.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: We have a dome in Fairfield, Iowa. I don't understand some of the reaction from the original comments I made regarding dome policies. I've been reading too much of the 'Overheard in New York' website lately, so I'll try to explain one possible reason in New York-ese: Yo! Bitchin' about the policies won't change them; you don't have any say about them. Complaining about them is like pissing into the wind. It makes you feel better, but the people standing around you tend to get as splattered as you do. That's New York-ese?? Looks like pretty standard Barry-ese to me.
[FairfieldLife] ufo China - Google Video
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer invented the vaj persona so he could make posts like this without being directly identified with them (coward as well as liar) That is highly unlikely. A quick check of the headers reveals that Rick's posts originate in Fairfield from a LISCO IP address: nslookup 63.162.80.162 Canonical name: 63-162-80-162.lisco.net While Vaj's posts originate from an Earthlink IP and email address: nslookup 209.86.89.68 Canonical name: elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net Technically, it would be possible for Rick to post as a Vaj persona from an Earthlink IP and email address while in Fairfield, but it would be ridiculous to go to all that trouble when he could simply have his Vaj subscription to FFL configured to hide his email address and IP. Actually, whenever I want to post as Vaj, I teleport to Maine, submit my post, then teleport back to Iowa. It's a nice respite from the workday. P.S., I'm also Karl Rove.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
The TMO will not change. You are correct but what will change in Fairfield is much more in alignment with spiritual community. And when the time is appropriate, my home will be open to everyone at Fairfield. The group program will involve everyone's group. Group meditation for everyone not just TM. Not just Ammachi. Not just SSRS. The second wave of spirituality in Fairfield presently will turn into a third wave which merges all of the energies together. This way we are all one big family. I was told that I could not attend an Amachi Friday lunch because it was for invitation only. See what I mean. Those who feel exclusivity is the norm regardless if its the TMO or any other spiritual group are filling themselves up with ego. I happen to enjoy the humanitarian vibration of Ammachi. But then I enjoy the humanitarian vibration of SSRS. I enjoy the non-dogmatic approach of Mother Meera. And I forgive Sathya Sai Baba so he can work out his own karma. The new TMO is in the town of Fairfield. We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Thank you for the compliment. You are outstanding also. Lsoma.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/23/07 10:27:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/23/07 11:09:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get why when Ahmadinejad says the US and Israel will be destroyed, invariably someone misquotes him as saying Iran will destroy them. He has not said that-- at least I haven't read it anywhere. I take his speech as referring to the possibiity of karmic retribution coming to both countries, not that Iran will be that agent of karmic retribution. Then he needs to state clearly that it is his belief that the destruction of Israel and the United States will be an act of God and Iran will have nothing to do with it, while he makes his nuclear weapons. Otherwise it clearly comes off as a threat. When you are on the receiving end of such a threat, by a hostile country that sponsors terrorism and one that is hell bent on making their own nuclear weapons,to take it as a possibility that maybe he just means your Karma is going to catch up with you would be absolutely foolish and suicidal.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The chakras and Aum mentioned in the Bible...
In a message dated 1/24/07 8:39:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Revelation 1:10 I was in the spirit (meditation) on the Lords day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet. Aummm...an Revelation 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me, I saw seven golden candlesticks.saw Revelation 1:16 And 'he' had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword. St. John saw the seven spiritual/astral centers of lightand it was good! :-) The Bible is loaded with experiences we as meditators commonly have. My first experience of kundalini was of an intense wind rushing up my spine while my whole body shook like a tuning fork and I also felt as if I were plugged into an electrical socket. I felt quite frightened at first. This sounded very much like the experience the Israelites had when Moses gathered them together to hear the voice of God at the foot of Mt. Horeb. The Jews were so frightened by the experience that they begged Moses to not let God speak directly to them again, but let Him speak through a spokesman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
On Jan 24, 2007, at 11:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 10:27:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. If you get LinkTV, check out the program Mosaic usually on before Amy Goodman's Democracy Now. Mosaic is the news as it's shown in the middle east and various Islamic countries. You wouldn't believe some of the things these guys say. Most of it never makes it to the US newsfeeds and only occasionally the BBC.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 10:27:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq?
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Vaj wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 11:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 10:27:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. If you get LinkTV, check out the program Mosaic usually on before Amy Goodman's Democracy Now. Mosaic is the news as it's shown in the middle east and various Islamic countries. You wouldn't believe some of the things these guys say. Most of it never makes it to the US newsfeeds and only occasionally the BBC. Actually they're online now too: http://www.linktv.org/mosaic/streamsArchive/index.php4
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 11:31:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you get LinkTV, check out the program Mosaic usually on before Amy Goodman's Democracy Now. Mosaic is the news as it's shown in the middle east and various Islamic countries. You wouldn't believe some of the things these guys say. Most of it never makes it to the US newsfeeds and only occasionally the BBC. Oh, I agree! I saw a documentary called Obsession a few months ago which showed what the average person in the middle east sees on TV and it looked as hate filled as any Ku Klux Klan rally you could ever imagine. You are absolutely right when you say you wouldn't believe unless you actually see it for your self.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 11:09:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get why when Ahmadinejad says the US and Israel will be destroyed, invariably someone misquotes him as saying Iran will destroy them. He has not said that-- at least I haven't read it anywhere. I take his speech as referring to the possibiity of karmic retribution coming to both countries, not that Iran will be that agent of karmic retribution. Then he needs to state clearly that it is his belief that the destruction of Israel and the United States will be an act of God Or that the U.S. and Israel will self-destruct. and Iran will have nothing to do with it, while he makes his nuclear weapons. Otherwise it clearly comes off as a threat. When you are on the receiving end of such a threat, by a hostile country that sponsors terrorism and one that is hell bent on making their own nuclear weapons,to take it as a possibility that maybe he just means your Karma is going to catch up with you would be absolutely foolish and suicidal. Given that Iran is never going to be capable of destroying the United States and Israel, it seems to me it's foolish and suicidal to take what he said any other way than as a prediction that we're on a course leading to our own destruction (such as by taking what he said as a threat).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 11:38:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq? I don't see the link between Bush's comment we are winning and Ahmedinejad's comment that the US and Israel will be annihilated which is made while they are knowingly making nuclear weapons.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
*Very* interesting parallel surveys of Iranians and Americans by WorldPublicOpinion.org. Among the findings: Iranians Want Capacity to Enrich Uranium But Accept NPT [Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty] Rules Against Developing Nuclear Weapons Americans Would Allow Limited Enrichment, Provided UN Is Given Full Access Iranians and Americans Believe Islam and West Can Find Common Ground Despite Mutual Antagonism, Half of Iranians and Most Americans Favor Direct US-Iran Talks, More Exchanges Iranians Overwhelmingly Reject Bin Laden http://tinyurl.com/2pm3ws
Re: [FairfieldLife] You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried every
peterklutz wrote: Hearing GWB's state of the nation speech, it appears that the White House has finally exhausted all alternatives to mess up the so-called War on Terror and now just might be about to do a number of things right. The problem, of course, is that even an America that does everything right, can only do so much. Iran will still be Iran.. Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 11:38:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq? I don't see the link between Bush's comment we are winning and Ahmedinejad's comment that the US and Israel will be annihilated which is made while they are knowingly making nuclear weapons. Bush was speaking prophetically of winning in Iraq (he said so himself). So why don't you think he comes off as a nut?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 12:11:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq? I don't see the link between Bush's comment we are winning and Ahmedinejad' Ahmedinejad'WBRs comment that the US and Israel will which is made while they are knowingly making nuclear weapons. Bush was speaking prophetically of winning in Iraq (he said so himself). So why don't you think he comes off as a nut? I would have to see the context under which he said it and when. Did he say so based on his own feelings or based on information he was receiving from his advisors and the military in the field?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried ev
On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY! Why go to all that expense and time, just to have a few months with Dick Go Fuck Yourself Cheney at the helm? How will that improve things? A good point. You'd have to impeach them both, something that may or may not be allowed by the Constitution to happen simultaneously. Or make things so hot they have no choice but to resign, ala Agnew and Nixon. Cheney going first would be a great start. Sal
[FairfieldLife] See Pam Whitworth's exhibit
I have to give a shout-out for a friend and former MIU classmate showing her art at MUM's Unity Gallery. I saw just one of the images on the web and felt confident there would be more good ones at the gallery. http://mum.edu/arts/exhibits Here's the summary from The Review: Paintings by Pam Whitworth at Unity Gallery An exhibit of paintings by Pam Whitworth is currently being held in Unity Gallery through February 14. The small-scale abstract, gouache paintings represent a new direction for the artist and designer, and illustrate the importance scale can play in the development of a body of work. Prior to a miniature painting workshop Ms. Whitworth took with Charlotte Cain, she had worked figuratively, but was finding it difficult in her busy life to make time for her art. Working on a small scale became a way for her to bite off small pieces. Ms. Whitworth says, It was as if working small opened a channel to my subconscious. Now, images were coming to me at all times of the day and night. Painting small, I felt I had little invested. I could let go. Why NOT paint a red circle if a red circle kept coming to me? My judgments about content got suspended. Ms. Whitworth graduated with a B.F.A. in painting from Maharishi International University in 1984. For the past 12 years she has had a successful design business. She makes high-end, one-of-a-kind pillows from old Asian textiles and sells them in New York City. Unity Gallery hours are Monday-Friday, 9:30 a.m.-4:00 p.m. and 7:15-9:00 p.m., Saturday 9:45 a.m.-4:00 p.m., and Sunday 7:15-9:00 p.m. For other information call (641) 472-7000, ext. 5035. Or send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or online see http://mum.edu/arts/exhibits.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO will not change. You are correct but what will change in Fairfield is much more in alignment with spiritual community. And when the time is appropriate, my home will be open to everyone at Fairfield. The group program will involve everyone's group. Group meditation for everyone not just TM. Not just Ammachi. Not just SSRS. The second wave of spirituality in Fairfield presently will turn into a third wave which merges all of the energies together. This way we are all one big family. I was told that I could not attend an Amachi Friday lunch because it was for invitation only. See what I mean. Those who feel exclusivity is the norm regardless if its the TMO or any other spiritual group are filling themselves up with ego. I happen to enjoy the humanitarian vibration of Ammachi. But then I enjoy the humanitarian vibration of SSRS. I enjoy the non-dogmatic approach of Mother Meera. And I forgive Sathya Sai Baba so he can work out his own karma. The new TMO is in the town of Fairfield. We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma. You do not need to be invited to friday ammachi lunch, but you need to reserve ahead of time so they know how much to cook. IMO, Sai Baba should work out his own karma in jail.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 12:11:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq? I don't see the link between Bush's comment we are winning and Ahmedinejad's comment that the US and Israel will which is made while they are knowingly making nuclear weapons. Bush was speaking prophetically of winning in Iraq (he said so himself). So why don't you think he comes off as a nut? I would have to see the context under which he said it and when. Did he say so based on his own feelings or based on information he was receiving from his advisors and the military in the field? Obviously the former. It's been some time since he's received any such information from his advisors or the military. From an AP article reporting on Bush's interview with the Washington Post December 20, 2006: Asked to reflect on his Oct. 24 statement that 'absolutely, we're winning,' Bush said that response was 'an indication of my belief we're going to win.' http://tinyurl.com/2otwl4 Here's the complete transcript of the interview in the Post: http://tinyurl.com/y4tt23
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to stick to the subject. We are not talking about New York. We are talking about Fairfield Iowa. I'm not complaining. You think things will not change? I know that nothing you say will change them. As far as the TM organization goes, you are a nonentity. You do not exist. Nor do I, or many of the people here. The only people who could influence the dome policies in Fairfield do not read this list, and never will. In your original post today (which you *still* have not learned to include in your replies so that people here know what the hell you're referring to), you complain (and that *is* the word) about people who isolate themselves on FFL. Welcome to the Isolation Ward. :-) He is apparently above replying to individuals and here only to pontificate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Please reread my post #128848, junior.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. When we want God to forgive us of some of our perversions that's OK, but when we need to forgive God then its another story. We all have weakness of temptation. Even Jesus was side tracked by women at times. I'm not advocating that it is OK with Sai Baba. I feel that a teacher should act appropriately. But, their is much said that is untrue about him also. Lsoma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Yeah he's been in my spam filter for a while now since his posts started appearing rather unbalanced and off the wall. With imbalanced awakenings, there's always hope a person retains the wisdom to seek help before it's too late and I wish him the best. Unfortunately with unusual awakenings--esp. waking up alone--if there's an imbalance it often just gets worse as there's no authentic teacher to guide the student. It's one thing to provide a technique that awaken shakti but it's quite another to know what to do when she takes an errant path. First, Barry, thanks for excerpting at least some of what I said so that the faux-Buddhist can see what I said to him. Faux-Buddhist: I am familiar with the strategy of calling someone crazy as opposed to dealing with what they said. Keeps you in your comfortable little faux-Buddhist box. You apparently prefer darkness to light- keep a tight lid on.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/23/07 11:09:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get why when Ahmadinejad says the US and Israel will be destroyed, invariably someone misquotes him as saying Iran will destroy them. He has not said that-- at least I haven't read it anywhere. I take his speech as referring to the possibiity of karmic retribution coming to both countries, not that Iran will be that agent of karmic retribution. Then he needs to state clearly that it is his belief that the destruction of Israel and the United States will be an act of God and Iran will have nothing to do with it, while he makes his nuclear weapons. Otherwise it clearly comes off as a threat. When you are on the receiving end of such a threat, by a hostile country that sponsors terrorism and one that is hell bent on making their own nuclear weapons,to take it as a possibility that maybe he just means your Karma is going to catch up with you would be absolutely foolish and suicidal. When I hear talk that that vis a vis Iran and USA relations, it sounds so much like the elephant being afraid of the mouse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jan 23, 2007, at 6:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@
wrote:
snip
Now whether in the end it helped or hindered in the
overall
scheme of things, we may never know. Many were helped and
many were harmed.
Documentation?
If you haven't heard stuff like the following, you should
take
your head out of the sand my friend! It's rather sad to say
this
only scrapes the surface:
List of TM Casualties
This is what you call documentation,
anonymous, unverified old stories from John
Knapp's hate site Trancenet??
Oh, and funny, but you didn't provide even *that*
much for the claim that Guru Dev told MMY not to
teach
The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so
forcefully to
his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and
Guru
Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL.
There
is no room to discuss anything when that chump is spouting off,
except to counter his unbridled crap.
There used to be people, I for one, who enjoyed sharing and
discussing experiences of enlightenment here. But the jealous
little
faux-Buddhist couldn't stand that. He has never shared personal
experiences except to make some point about his 'empty mind'
meditation ('empty heart' is more like it...), and to think that
he
calls himself a Buddhist is an embarassment to Buddhists
globally.
I have been in the company of many Buddhists, in Japan,
Indonesia,
and Hong Kong, and none of them acted with the lack of heart and
acceptance as this asshole does. So he can continue to be an
asshole
since that's all he can do, and I'll call him on it every time
he
does.
Maybe he will get tired of being described for what he is and
fuck
off, and we can get back to discussing what made this place
pretty
special for those truly interested in enlightenment.
On the other hand, he mentioned to Peter S. not long ago that he
wanted to open a chain of hate centers or something, so perhaps
he
enjoys being nasty and dark. Well, let's just see how much he
enjoys
it, shall we? :-)
Dude, even toxic ego drama is wholeness.
And your point is?
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Er, whose sock puppet am I supposed to be? Anyone but Barry's...
[FairfieldLife] Amma lunches, was: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of markmeredith2002 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? You do not need to be invited to friday ammachi lunch, but you need to reserve ahead of time so they know how much to cook. I 2nd that. I manage the email notification list for the lunches. Anyone can come (or be on that list). You just have to reserve so Vaju knows how much to cook. It's not really an Amma lunch. The lady who cooks (Vaju Moorthy) has the Amma center in her home, but the lunches are at Morningstar Studio and there isn't an Amma photo in sight. So people of all spiritual persuasions feel comfortable attending.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Thinking and Meditating Can Change the Brain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: The guy is a loser and a liar. The reason I respond so forcefully to his bullshit is that by constantly denigrating Maharishi and Guru Dev, Vaj creates a condition of mistrust and argument on FFL. The reason Jim is responding as he has been the last two days is that he's trying to cover up post #128848, in which he essentially stated that if he believes some- thing (in this case, that two people he's never met are/were enlightened), it's an indisputable, unassail- able fact, and thus lost all credibility as a rational being. Vaj has his faults, but all in all I prefer them to religious fanaticism, which is the level that Jim has descended to recently. I've written Jim off...he now resides in the same category of sock puppet as sparaig. Er, whose sock puppet am I supposed to be? Doesn't matter. This is from a guy for whom rationality is optional, after all--to be invoked when it can be used as a putdown of those he doesn't agree with, and eschewed when he needs to excuse his own illogic and inconsistency. I have visions of Jim and I as sock puppets, with a single two-handed arm between us. That was supposed to be a vision of how BUsh and Cheney operate, but I guess you can look on it from a mystical brahman perspective...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Sai Baba is a sexual pervert, a pedophile who has sexully abused hundreds of young boys over the years. Stop trying to create some sort of mystical bullshit surrounding his behavior. He took advantage of them because he could. He's as enlightened as the pile of shit my dog made this morning. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. When we want God to forgive us of some of our perversions that's OK, but when we need to forgive God then its another story. We all have weakness of temptation. Even Jesus was side tracked by women at times. I'm not advocating that it is OK with Sai Baba. I feel that a teacher should act appropriately. But, their is much said that is untrue about him also. Lsoma. Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 11:38:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahmadinejad has threatened the State of Israel with annihilation several times in recent months, and has recently added the US and Britain to the list of countries he says will be destroyed. Now, is Ahmadinejad actually threatening annihilation or is he speaking prophetically of annihilation? He can't blame people if they take it as a threat and if he only means it prophetically then he comes off as a nut. You mean, like Bush when he said, We're winning in Iraq? I don't see the link between Bush's comment we are winning and Ahmedinejad's comment that the US and Israel will be annihilated which is made while they are knowingly making nuclear weapons. Bush is knowing that we are NOT winning...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
We can thank the TMO for all of its guidelines. It has helped all of us to see that we are growing in a more expanded version of what Guru Dev wanted for the world. Lsoma. At any rate, all of us TMO grads and newbies do ipso facto represent what TMO and GD become as Westerners. So pat yourselves on the back. There is nobody else in the West who follow GD but us basically. Uh, what I mean is that you guys are Hindus. Without groovy names. Cool. Better that way. Alright. Party on.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Amma lunches, was: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
yum yum, watering thinking about it. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Amma lunches, was: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of markmeredith2002 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:27 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? You do not need to be invited to friday ammachi lunch, but you need to reserve ahead of time so they know how much to cook. I 2nd that. I manage the email notification list for the lunches. Anyone can come (or be on that list). You just have to reserve so Vaju knows how much to cook. It's not really an Amma lunch. The lady who cooks (Vaju Moorthy) has the Amma center in her home, but the lunches are at Morningstar Studio and there isn't an Amma photo in sight. So people of all spiritual persuasions feel comfortable attending.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried ev
On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY! Why go to all that expense and time, just to have a few months with Dick Go Fuck Yourself Cheney at the helm? How will that improve things? A good point. You'd have to impeach them both, something that may or may not be allowed by the Constitution to happen simultaneously. Or make things so hot they have no choice but to resign, ala Agnew and Nixon. Cheney going first would be a great start. The SOTU has sort of overshadowed it, but recent news from the Scooter Libby trial suggests that Cheney may be in VERY big trouble over the Plame incident, so that part of your scenario isn't so far-fetched. Yeah, that's the feeling I've gotten from several of the headlines I've seen. It's unlikely Bush would ever resign, but with Cheney out of the way, there'd be one less obstacle to proceeding with impeachment. Exactly. Would be interesting to see, though, if it ever came to that who would be Cheney's replacement. I would guess someone who the far right (at least in their imaginations) would consider politically unassailable--maybe Rice, Powell or McCain. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 1:48:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asked to reflect on his Oct. 24 statement that 'absolutely, we're winning,' Bush said that response was 'an indication of my belief we're going to win.' Hardly a comparison to prophetic speak that the world would be rid of Israel and the US soon. Bush has the ability to win in Iraq with the worlds greatest military, the question is does he have the political will to win.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried ev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY! Why go to all that expense and time, just to have a few months with Dick Go Fuck Yourself Cheney at the helm? How will that improve things? A good point. You'd have to impeach them both, something that may or may not be allowed by the Constitution to happen simultaneously. Or make things so hot they have no choice but to resign, ala Agnew and Nixon. Cheney going first would be a great start. The SOTU has sort of overshadowed it, but recent news from the Scooter Libby trial suggests that Cheney may be in VERY big trouble over the Plame incident, so that part of your scenario isn't so far-fetched. Yeah, that's the feeling I've gotten from several of the headlines I've seen. It's unlikely Bush would ever resign, but with Cheney out of the way, there'd be one less obstacle to proceeding with impeachment. Exactly. Would be interesting to see, though, if it ever came to that who would be Cheney's replacement. I would guess someone who the far right (at least in their imaginations) would consider politically unassailable--maybe Rice, Powell or McCain. In a Democratically controlled congress, if impeachment of Cheney AND Bush was inevitable, the Democrats would never confirm a Republican for VP before Bush was impeached. That would make Pelosi the next president.
[FairfieldLife] IA legislature considering county control of hog lots
Some legislators are hoping to get these issues addressed this session, but state Rep. John Whitaker, D-Hillsboro, conceded while these issues have been discussed in years past, the Legislature has taken no action. He said the issue of local control has been a battle between political parties for at least the last 10 years. A bill was introduced recently into the House agriculture subcommittee for discussion. House File 29 would give county supervisors the right to deny a permit on certain criteria. http://www.ottumwacourier.com/local/local_story_022001750.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 2:13:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I hear talk that that vis a vis Iran and USA relations, it sounds so much like the elephant being afraid of the mouse. It's not so much the US vs Iran as it is Iran vs Israel. Israel has everything to fear. One well placed bomb could destroy their nation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 1:48:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asked to reflect on his Oct. 24 statement that 'absolutely, we're winning,' Bush said that response was 'an indication of my belief we're going to win.' Hardly a comparison to prophetic speak that the world would be rid of Israel and the US soon. Bush has the ability to win in Iraq with the worlds greatest military, the question is does he have the political will to win. Define win. Can we bomb everyone in Iraq to death? Sure. Can we help the unified-Iraq government survive indefinitely? Sure. Can we, via military force alone, create a lasting unified Iraq? No way. Can we, via a combination of military force AND diplomacy--both internal and international--help the unified-Iraq goverhment survive indefinitely? MAYBE.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 1:48:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asked to reflect on his Oct. 24 statement that 'absolutely, we're winning,' Bush said that response was 'an indication of my belief we're going to win.' Hardly a comparison to prophetic speak that the world would be rid of Israel and the US soon. Bush has the ability to win in Iraq with the worlds greatest military, the question is does he have the political will to win. My *point* was, of course, that when he said Absolutely, we're winning, we weren't winning by any stretch of the imagination. When he admitted this to the Washington Post, and they asked him why he had said we *were* winning, he responded that he believed we were *going* to win--i.e., he was being prophetic. You said Ahmadinejad would look like a nut if he were being merely prophetic about Israel and the U.S. being destroyed, as opposed to having in mind a way to destroy them (i.e., a threat). So I'm asking (you carefully snipped it), why doesn't Bush look like a nut as well?
[FairfieldLife] Re: You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried ev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY! Why go to all that expense and time, just to have a few months with Dick Go Fuck Yourself Cheney at the helm? How will that improve things? A good point. You'd have to impeach them both, something that may or may not be allowed by the Constitution to happen simultaneously. Or make things so hot they have no choice but to resign, ala Agnew and Nixon. Cheney going first would be a great start. The SOTU has sort of overshadowed it, but recent news from the Scooter Libby trial suggests that Cheney may be in VERY big trouble over the Plame incident, so that part of your scenario isn't so far-fetched. Yeah, that's the feeling I've gotten from several of the headlines I've seen. It's unlikely Bush would ever resign, but with Cheney out of the way, there'd be one less obstacle to proceeding with impeachment. Exactly. Would be interesting to see, though, if it ever came to that who would be Cheney's replacement. I would guess someone who the far right (at least in their imaginations) would consider politically unassailable--maybe Rice, Powell or McCain. In a Democratically controlled congress, if impeachment of Cheney AND Bush was inevitable, the Democrats would never confirm a Republican for VP before Bush was impeached. That would make Pelosi the next president. Lawson, we're talking about Cheney resigning *before* Bush is impeached.
[FairfieldLife] Re: KT: dilettante morpho-syntactic analysis of some Brahma-suutras: 8
Topic (adhikaraNa) 5 consists of suutras 5 - 11.
Suutra 9:
svaapyayaat (ablative singular of:)
svapyaya [?typo: sva+apyaya svaapyaya] m. turning into one's self
(as an explanation of {svapna}) S3Br. Ba1dar.
Swami's translation:
On account of (the individual) merging in its own Self (the Self
cannot be the Pradhana).
His comment (in part):
With reference to the cause denoted by the word 'Sat' the Sruti says,
When a man sleeps here, then my child, he becomes united with the
Sat, he is gone to his own self. Therefore they say of him 'he sleeps'
(Svapiti) because he is gone to his own (Svam Apita) Chh. Up. VI-8-1.
From the fact that the individual soul merges in the universal soul in
deep sleep, it is understood that the Self, which is described in the
Sruti as the ultimate Reality, the cause of the world is not Pradhana.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers. I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/fecris.htm Maharishi just wanted to change the world by telling it to relax, because in fact he wanted everyone to become TM meditators, regardless of whom and what they were. He made people feel so welcome but his ultimate aim, which I only began to understand after 1975 when I left the organisation, was to create a world government and, until today there is a parallel world government run by Ministers, Maharajas and Kings with plastic crowns and mantles as in the Middle Ages. The fact is that they believe this and they are not just anyone, but well educated people, psychiatrists, doctors, ministers, psychologists, all those people that today appear on the famous TV show run by Oprah Winfrey. Her sponsoring of the movement brings them much success through trumped up support from famous doctors and publications. You can all connect to the Maharishi Satellite Network: there is a very important 24h a day Channel and there it is very easy to see what is going on. Why did I leave this organisation? I began to wake up when he declared that Mother Teresa was the worst kind of human being on earth. She later won the Nobel Prize. His main problem with her was that he wanted the Nobel Prize for himself. I was told to manipulate those responsible for choosing the people to be nominated. We tried to do this and succeeded, as he had much influence at that time, to get him nominated but this was blocked by King Olaf of Norway. He then started saying that all his teachers, I was one of them, were soon going to levitate. We were going to fly and we would visit all kinds of planets about which the psychiatrists and other spiritual teachers were always telling us. I realised that this could not be true as I taught these courses. They called it the TM-Sidhi Programme. At these flying courses people would be sitting cross-legs on their backsides on their mattresses and they jumped whilst sitting like this. After a while one could become very skilful and could jump up as high as a metre or so only to fall back again. I heard Maharishi tell a French photographer with a slow camera just to cut the fall back part and put the photos together when they were up which gave a flying image. So he put them together and this was broadcast all over the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 4:36:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My *point* was, of course, that when he said Absolutely, we're winning, we weren't winning by any stretch of the imagination. When he admitted this to the Washington Post, and they asked him why he had said we *were* winning, he responded that he believed we were *going* to win--i.e., he was being prophetic. You said Ahmadinejad would look like a nut if he were being merely prophetic about Israel and the U.S. being destroyed, as opposed to having in mind a way to destroy them (i.e., a threat). So I'm asking (you carefully snipped it), why doesn't Bush look like a nut as well? Bush's statement We are winning, based on that he believed we would is hardly being prophetic. Confident, maybe hopeful, but not prophetic. He can have that confidence based upon the fact that he is involved in the process of what is going on in Iraq, where as Ahmadinejad says with all confidence that Israel and the US will cease to exist within what, two years? On what basis? Is he involved in some plan for them to cease to exist or has Allah personally told him that they will cease to exist? There is no comparison of the two and their statements.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 2:13:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I hear talk that that vis a vis Iran and USA relations, it sounds so much like the elephant being afraid of the mouse. It's not so much the US vs Iran as it is Iran vs Israel. Israel has everything to fear. One well placed bomb could destroy their nation. I'd much rather see them talking than both building up nuclear arsenals...The US could facilitate this in a heartbeat, but not under this diplomatically inept administration.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another faux-Buddhist! Enjoying the Void? Who needs God when you've got the Dalai Lama, eh? ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Are there two Fort Bennings?
Sent: Subject: Are there Two Ft. Bennings? Be careful about what you read and where you read it. By JAMES TARANTO Are There Two Different Fort Bennings? Bush Cheered at Fort Benning: FORT BENNING, Ga.--President Bush, surrounded on Thursday by cheering soldiers in camouflage, defended his decision to send 21,500 more U.S. troops to Iraq and cautioned that the buildup will not produce quick results. 'It's going to take awhile,' he said.--headline and lead paragraph, _Associated Press_ (http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2788642) , Jan. 11 Bush Speaks and Base Is Subdued: FORT BENNING, Ga., Jan. 11--President Bush came to this Georgia military base looking for a friendly audience to sell his new Iraq strategy. But his lunchtime talk received a restrained response from soldiers who clapped politely but showed little of the wild enthusiasm that they ordinarily shower on the commander in chief.--_New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/12/us/12prexy.html?ex=15768en=2d94eb639b0ae539ei=5124partner=permalinkexp rod=permalink) , Jan. 12
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
In a message dated 1/24/07 5:25:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd much rather see them talking than both building up nuclear arsenals...The US could facilitate this in a heartbeat, but not under this diplomatically inept administration. Why would either Israel or Iran want to talk to each other? Israel is minding their own business and Iran is poking their nose in on it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
Bush didn't even mention any of the disasters of the last year in his speech. What a dumb and ignorant sod. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness' In a message dated 1/24/07 1:48:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asked to reflect on his Oct. 24 statement that 'absolutely, we're winning,' Bush said that response was 'an indication of my belief we're going to win.' Hardly a comparison to prophetic speak that the world would be rid of Israel and the US soon. Bush has the ability to win in Iraq with the worlds greatest military, the question is does he have the political will to win.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Once I hopped off the foam in the domes onto the cement. I went to a chiropractor for six months after that, and went back to transcending and left the sports for skinny vegans. - Original Message - From: kaladevi93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 2:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was told it was by invitation only from an Ammachi devotee. If it is not then I would like to attend. Sai Baba is already in jail because he is in a physical body. It is a bitch to let go of all emotional attachments to get into the 7th dimension. Sai Baba is in the upper 6th dimension and will digress due to his behavior. Channeled information says he has not touched anyone under the age of 14. Uh, you might want to change the channel or check their antenna if that's what they said. Check out Conny Larsson's (sp?) website for starters, this poor guy seems to have a karmic knack for finding false teachers. I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets: http://www.saibabaexpose.com/fecris.htm Maharishi just wanted to change the world by telling it to relax, because in fact he wanted everyone to become TM meditators, regardless of whom and what they were. He made people feel so welcome but his ultimate aim, which I only began to understand after 1975 when I left the organisation, was to create a world government and, until today there is a parallel world government run by Ministers, Maharajas and Kings with plastic crowns and mantles as in the Middle Ages. The fact is that they believe this and they are not just anyone, but well educated people, psychiatrists, doctors, ministers, psychologists, all those people that today appear on the famous TV show run by Oprah Winfrey. Her sponsoring of the movement brings them much success through trumped up support from famous doctors and publications. You can all connect to the Maharishi Satellite Network: there is a very important 24h a day Channel and there it is very easy to see what is going on. Why did I leave this organisation? I began to wake up when he declared that Mother Teresa was the worst kind of human being on earth. She later won the Nobel Prize. His main problem with her was that he wanted the Nobel Prize for himself. I was told to manipulate those responsible for choosing the people to be nominated. We tried to do this and succeeded, as he had much influence at that time, to get him nominated but this was blocked by King Olaf of Norway. He then started saying that all his teachers, I was one of them, were soon going to levitate. We were going to fly and we would visit all kinds of planets about which the psychiatrists and other spiritual teachers were always telling us. I realised that this could not be true as I taught these courses. They called it the TM-Sidhi Programme. At these flying courses people would be sitting cross-legs on their backsides on their mattresses and they jumped whilst sitting like this. After a while one could become very skilful and could jump up as high as a metre or so only to fall back again. I heard Maharishi tell a French photographer with a slow camera just to cut the fall back part and put the photos together when they were up which gave a flying image. So he put them together and this was broadcast all over the world. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:33 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets His book in English may be out, I'm not sure. That should be a doozee.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 5:33 PM, kaladevi93 wrote: I see what you mean. The closer you look, the worse it gets His book in English may be out, I'm not sure. That should be a doozee. Hey Dozy, its spelled 'doozy'...Do all faux-Buddhists drink from the glass which is always half-empty?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You can trust the Americans to do the right thing, after they have tried ev
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:36 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 24, 2007, at 12:50 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Bush's SOTU was a bunch of hokum. We need to skewer his regime and impeach them YESTERDAY! Why go to all that expense and time, just to have a few months with Dick Go Fuck Yourself Cheney at the helm? How will that improve things? A good point. You'd have to impeach them both, something that may or may not be allowed by the Constitution to happen simultaneously. Or make things so hot they have no choice but to resign, ala Agnew and Nixon. Cheney going first would be a great start. The SOTU has sort of overshadowed it, but recent news from the Scooter Libby trial suggests that Cheney may be in VERY big trouble over the Plame incident, so that part of your scenario isn't so far-fetched. Yeah, that's the feeling I've gotten from several of the headlines I've seen. It's unlikely Bush would ever resign, but with Cheney out of the way, there'd be one less obstacle to proceeding with impeachment. Exactly. Would be interesting to see, though, if it ever came to that who would be Cheney's replacement. I would guess someone who the far right (at least in their imaginations) would consider politically unassailable--maybe Rice, Powell or McCain. In a Democratically controlled congress, if impeachment of Cheney AND Bush was inevitable, the Democrats would never confirm a Republican for VP before Bush was impeached. That would make Pelosi the next president. Lawson, we're talking about Cheney resigning *before* Bush is impeached. Yes, and there would be a VP proposed by BUsh immediately. The Democrats in Congress would block any proposed replacement until after the impeachment hearings.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iran Again Speaks of Madness'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/07 4:36:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My *point* was, of course, that when he said Absolutely, we're winning, we weren't winning by any stretch of the imagination. When he admitted this to the Washington Post, and they asked him why he had said we *were* winning, he responded that he believed we were *going* to win--i.e., he was being prophetic. You said Ahmadinejad would look like a nut if he were being merely prophetic about Israel and the U.S. being destroyed, as opposed to having in mind a way to destroy them (i.e., a threat). So I'm asking (you carefully snipped it), why doesn't Bush look like a nut as well? Bush's statement We are winning, based on that he believed we would is hardly being prophetic. Confident, maybe hopeful, but not prophetic. He can have that confidence based upon the fact that he is involved in the process of what is going on in Iraq, Well, no, dear, there's zero basis for such confidence. It's as unrealistic as Ahmadinejad saying the U.S. and Israel will cease to exist. And he didn't say We will win, he said Absolutely, we are winning, in the face of overwhelming evidence (which he himself had to admit three months later) that we are *not* winning. where as Ahmadinejad says with all confidence that Israel and the US will cease to exist within what, two years? On what basis? Is he involved in some plan for them to cease to exist or has Allah personally told him that they will cease to exist? There is no comparison of the two and their statements. They're precisely parallel, MDixon.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. markmeredith wrote: The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior. The sidhis he displayed were apparently sleight of hand tricks - this accoridng to many disciples who worked with him for years. He kept the rings and trinkets hidden between the folds of blankets that were piled next to him. The rings were made of cheap metals and glass stones by jewers in India who sold them to Sai Baba's people. Apparently there are vidoetapes of Sai Baba that show him quickly removing rings and ash etc from the pile of blankets and then putting them up his sleeves. Many people attest to knowing this and to helping to set it all up. They were so ensconced in the group that they never said anything about it for years!! He must have had some mesmerizing presence to have pulled all this stuff off for so many years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT WILL FAIRFIELD IOWA LOOK LIKE BY THE END OF 2007?
I don't know if Sai Baba pulls the whole Michael Jackson beat it routine with kids, but I do know that he is a shitty magician. I've seen the tapes of his versions of tricks that I learned when I was 10 years old. I saw his fumbling version of the steal the Vibhuti from the napkin while pretending to wipe your hands trick. I've seen the same double sided vase that I got for my birthday as a kid, used to amaze his gullible followers. I've seen him palm amulets and produce them on film as if he pulled them out of his cosmic ass. You are letting him get away with a magic act that would not cut it in a 4th grade talent show. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lsoma@ wrote: Easy does it. Sai Baba is not a petafile. If you are so certain that Sai Baba is then get someone to video tape it. Stop listening to everyone and everything. If you do the bullshit piles up and you can get it all over yourself. Go within for your answers. If you want to visit every website that has stories to degrade anyone then you have too much free time. Go to the dome and hop around for world peace. It would be healthier than finding out what Guru screwed who. It is no wonder the world is the way it is with so many people lacking faith in some higher good. Let the angels of God judge Sai Baba. No one gets away with anything anyhow. Change the channel and get a new antenna. Or as Maharishi used to say-Focus on the rose not the thorns. Stop judging every teacher that comes along and let them work out there own karma. Be thankful for what they have given to us. Everyone changes in their own time. Lsoma. The info on Sai Baba being a pedophile is now overwhelming, not from scandalous websites but mainly from former leaders of his org., many of whom had children sodomized and verified by doctors. These were people who did not want to believe the truth about Sai Baba but couldn't ignore the evidence after much agonizing. Do some common sense research on this rather than listening to channelers. Spiritual people look the other way when children are being molested? The world is a bad place because people show some discrimination as to who is and who isn't a true spiritual teacher? I had a very open mind about this issue when I first came across it, but I can't find any supporter of Sai Baba who's making any reasonable argument, just the above spiritual jive talk. Walking around in robes talking about God and periodically displaying some sidhis due to a grossly inbalanced kundalini process doesn't provide any kind of cover for grossly dark behavior.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [TMTrue] My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes John-boy, I read the website and yes indeedee, it is all true. :-) The only truth that's been hidden is the truth about TM, the TMSP and the TMO in general. And this has caused suffering to countless human beings. And please remember, if you're near a TMO Peace Palace or facility and you see a pundit, give them a nice hug and tell them that you support Universal Tolerance. If you eat meat, make sure you tell them that *last*. ;-) On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:37 PM, John M. Knapp wrote: Hi, I just joined this list this week. I learned TM in 1972, and although I meditate regularly I haven't had much contact with the TM Movement in years. That's one of the reasons I signed up for this list after I started hearing about David Lynch. I wanted to see learn what's new with the Movement. But I received a very disturbing e-mail this morning from a friend. He stumbled on a blog, http://tmfree.blogspot.com. It's filled with very weird and upsetting stories about TM and Maharishi. Is any of this stuff true? --- End forwarded message ---
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [TMTrue] My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Yes John-boy, I read the website and yes indeedee, it is all true. :-) The only truth that's been hidden is the truth about TM, the TMSP and the TMO in general. And this has caused suffering to countless human beings. And please remember, if you're near a TMO Peace Palace or facility and you see a pundit, give them a nice hug and tell them that you support Universal Tolerance. If you eat meat, make sure you tell them that *last*. ;-) On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:37 PM, John M. Knapp wrote: Hi, I just joined this list this week. I learned TM in 1972, and although I meditate regularly I haven't had much contact with the TM Movement in years. That's one of the reasons I signed up for this list after I started hearing about David Lynch. I wanted to see learn what's new with the Movement. But I received a very disturbing e-mail this morning from a friend. He stumbled on a blog, http://tmfree.blogspot.com. It's filled with very weird and upsetting stories about TM and Maharishi. Is any of this stuff true? --- End forwarded message --- What is this incoherent mess trying to say? More crap from the faux- Buddhist little Vajee? Buddha spits in his face.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Re: [TMTrue] My first post: Please help me, I'm so confused
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mathatbrahman mathatbrahman@ wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Yes John-boy, I read the website and yes indeedee, it is all true. :-) The only truth that's been hidden is the truth about TM, the TMSP and the TMO in general. And this has caused suffering to countless human beings. And please remember, if you're near a TMO Peace Palace or facility and you see a pundit, give them a nice hug and tell them that you support Universal Tolerance. If you eat meat, make sure you tell them that *last*. ;-) On Jan 11, 2007, at 10:37 PM, John M. Knapp wrote: Hi, I just joined this list this week. I learned TM in 1972, and although I meditate regularly I haven't had much contact with the TM Movement in years. That's one of the reasons I signed up for this list after I started hearing about David Lynch. I wanted to see learn what's new with the Movement. But I received a very disturbing e-mail this morning from a friend. He stumbled on a blog, http://tmfree.blogspot.com. It's filled with very weird and upsetting stories about TM and Maharishi. Is any of this stuff true? --- End forwarded message --- What is this incoherent mess trying to say? More crap from the faux- Buddhist little Vajee? Buddha spits in his face. It's an ad for Knapp's blog, not a real message.
[FairfieldLife] Gay sheep: he's just not that into ewe...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/25/science/25sheep.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/yvkdc3 Important to read the earlier part of the exchange to get a proper perspective on Harris's response. He's just as much of a fanatic as the fundamentalists he rants about. Sullivan made excellent points that Harris doesn't know how to respond to, and it's sent him into a frustrated rage.
[FairfieldLife] 'Britain's MI5 Warning About Germ Warfare'
Britains laboratories have been ordered to strengthen
security on stocks of more than 100 deadly viruses and bacteria after an MI5
warning that Islamic terrorists are training in germ warfare. The biological
agents include polio, rabies, tuberculosis and avian flu. Food poisoning
bacteria such as E. coli and the sources of a number of rare tropical and
Middle Eastern illnesses are also included. Scientists and laboratory staff
in universities, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies who deal with agents
will have to be vetted by police, and their laboratories will be checked by
government safety inspectors. Stock will have to be regularly audited. The
crackdown comes after MI5 privately warned the Foreign and Commonwealth Office
that al-Qaeda was actively recruiting scientists. Extremist groups are known to
have targeted students, offering to fund courses in return for using their
newly acquired expertise.
NI_MPU('middle'); Last November Dame Eliza Man-ningham-Buller,
the Director-General of MI5, gave warning that terror attacks in Britain could
involve weapons of mass destruction.
She said that terrorists were seeking the means to mount a range of attacks
using chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear devices. We know that the
aspiration is there, we know attempts to gather materials are there, we know
that attempts to gather technologies are there, she said.
Ayman al-Zawahri, al-Qaedas second-in-command, warned the the West in an
internet video last night of a reprisal far worse than anything it has seen
if Washington did not change its policies towards Muslim states.
After the 9/11 terrorist attacks in America, security at laboratories was
stepped up amid new intelligence on the ambitions of al-Qaeda and its allies,
and restrictions were placed on 47 agents under the Antiterrorism, Crime and
Security Act 2001. Yesterday the Government announced that the list was being
increased to 103, including 45 viruses, 21 bacteria, 2 fungi, 13 toxins and 18
animal pathogens.
Tony McNulty, the Home Office minister in charge of policing, said: The
terror threat is always changing and we must adapt to ensure it is combated
effectively. As terrorists look for new ways to endanger life, we have to take
action to be one step ahead.
He said: That is why we are extending the list of controlled substances to
prevent terrorist groups using chemical or biological materials as terrorist
weapons.
The move comes after a review by a Whitehall committee known as the Salisbury
Group, which includes MI5, police, scientists from Porton Down, Defra, the
Health and Safety Executive and the Health Protection Agency.
The additions to the list include many of the bacteria and viruses that
strike at animals, such as foot-and-mouth disease. These might not be harmful
to humans but could be devastating to the economy, as was the foot-and-mouth
outbreak in Britain in 2001.
Others such as Rift Valley fever normally infect animals but have spread to
human populations and caused widespread illness and death as the illness did in
Egypt in the 1970s.
Guanarito virus or Venezuelan haemorrhagic fever can be fatal in a third of
cases, while Shigella boydii can cause dysentery.
John Wood, of the National Institute for Biological Standards and Controls,
said scientists will have to show a valid reason for working with the agents.
He said the changes mirrored controls in the US and would probably mean much
stricter access to laboratories.
Alistair Hay, Professor of Environmental Toxicology at Leeds University, said
that the measures were prudent. He said the introduction of the first controls
had been accepted by the scientific community.
He said that in the 1980s a cult in Orgeon used a bacterium to spread food
poisoning and sabotage elections that threatened them.
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[FairfieldLife] Route 34
Route 34 runs from Estes Park, Colorado located right in Rocky National Park east through Fairfield and ends in Chicago. MMY gave a course in Estes Park and set up MIU/MUM in Fairfield. Is there any significance to Highway 34? I didn't think about this until I noticed the Highway 34 sign heading west into Estes Park for a visit last year and wondered if this was the same 34 that passed through Fairfield when I attended MIU. Mark http://www.geocities.com/usend3039/End034/end034.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Route 34
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Route 34 runs from Estes Park, Colorado located right in Rocky National Park east through Fairfield and ends in Chicago. MMY gave a course in Estes Park and set up MIU/MUM in Fairfield. Is there any significance to Highway 34? I didn't think about this until I noticed the Highway 34 sign heading west into Estes Park for a visit last year and wondered if this was the same 34 that passed through Fairfield when I attended MIU. Mark http://www.geocities.com/usend3039/End034/end034.htm * Guru Dev became a sanyasi at age 34, so must be a cosmic numbah: At the age of 34 he was initiated into the order of Sanyas by his Master at the greatest world fair, Kumbha Mela, that is held once in twelve years at the junction of the two holy rivers, Ganges and Jumna at Allahabad City. http://www.tmbulletin.net/volume1/TMBulletinV1I11.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris replies to Andrew Sullivan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coshlnx coshlnx@ wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/yvkdc3 Important to read the earlier part of the exchange to get a proper perspective on Harris's response. He's just as much of a fanatic as the fundamentalists he rants about. Sullivan made excellent points that Harris doesn't know how to respond to, and it's sent him into a frustrated rage. My experience is that hardcore atheists are, well, hardcore.
