[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > The brutality of that war was unimaginable. What a chilling
> > story.
> >
> As a child (hell, as an adult) I was always horrified by the total
> brutality of the German-Russian Eastern Front conflict during WWII -
> including the use of prisoners as slave labour and their being worked to
> death - both sides adopting the same approach.
> In contrast, British and German prisoners were treated with comparative
> respect. And for the Brits there were also the more romantic episodes of
> war, for example, German battleships like the Bismark sinking British
> cruisers but eventually being cornered themselves and being sunk.
> The German-Russian barbarism was unspeakable, in the original sense of
> that word: talking about it would degrade the speakers themselves.
> But one day, someone mentioned to me something that - as soon as I heard
> it - I recognised as true. If the Russians hadn't prosecuted the war
> with such ferocity and callous disregard of life then when the Yanks and
> Brits had landed at Normandy they would have had to adopt the same
> degrading tactics. In a way, the Russians accepted the blood guilt and
> maybe there's something of bad faith about striking superior attitudes
> about western, more civilised, conduct.
> (And let's not forget the controversial issue of the carpet-bombing of
> German and Japanese civilian areas carried out by British and American
> heavy bombers.)
> Having said that, the mass-rape of German girls and women after the
> surrender - carried out by Russian occupying forces - really turns my
> stomach and has no possible justification.

Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They weren't 
even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if their cities 
were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new buildings built by 
architects from all over the world certainly has made the alienation complete. 
Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a complete mess except for small 
enclaves dotted around the city that have hold on to some old charm.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

And some study material vis-a-vis Xeno and the psychopathically
enlightened - you weren't around dear Bob and I'm not sure if you ever
got a chance to read this.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349088


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  wrote:
>
> Oh a quick note here as well dear Bob.
>
> I know you are trying to pull in the *enlightened* vote for me as well
> but it's important to remember (not to say you aren't already aware of
> this) that there are three categories of *enlightened" here and you
need
> to fine tune your strategy for each of them. Yeah I know they can get
> pretty picky and technical and a pain in the butt.
>
> But the three categories are the - intellectually *enlightened*, the
> delusionally *enlightened* and the psychopathically enlightened. I
hope
> you are not too confused about the third category - yep I'm referring
to
> the likes of Xeno here. Being extremely stunted emotionally, socially
> you really need to be careful here - sorry for being so picky, it's
not
> like I don't appreciate your time and effort here.
>
> Thanks Bob !!!
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > Obba,
> >
> > Wilma is a winner.
> >
> > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
vote
> is
> > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> concerned
> > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> college,
> > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the polls
> > close?
> >
> > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything), I
> > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> talking
> > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> >
> > Your tickets are in the mail.
> >
> > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of the
> beat
> > the campaign is looking for?
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > >
> > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
> > > or
> > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
singer)
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk
> > >
> > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this song
> > style
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ
> > > "call me darling, you
> > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > >
> > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover the
> > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until
then,
> > > okay?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very high"?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the knowledge,
> > > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of our
> > > lives,
> > > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and Richard
> tire
> > > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > > Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the
Pacific
> > > > Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking
> > > > up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after Richard
has
> > > tires
> > > > him out, I think we can buy Buck's support
> > > > with a promise to make all colors illegal---except gold. In the
> > > > meantime, we need to launch our Share
> > > > strategy and begin posting half baked poems and syrupy sweet
> photos
> > > like
> > > > the following. For the sympathy vote, I think writing a
> > > > C&W hurtin song would be an excellent start; maybe with a title
> > like:
> > > > "My Baby Dumped Me For The Infinite".
> > > > And remember NO MORE OPINIONS ON ANYTHING, and if any smart
asses
> > ask
> > > > you what you're for, just say:
> > > > "Change we can believe in" and drones.  More soon---its in the
bag
> > my
> > > > friend.-BP
> > > >
> > > >   I can't be as
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

Oh a quick note here as well dear Bob.

I know you are trying to pull in the *enlightened* vote for me as well
but it's important to remember (not to say you aren't already aware of
this) that there are three categories of *enlightened" here and you need
to fine tune your strategy for each of them. Yeah I know they can get
pretty picky and technical and a pain in the butt.

But the three categories are the - intellectually *enlightened*, the
delusionally *enlightened* and the psychopathically enlightened. I hope
you are not too confused about the third category - yep I'm referring to
the likes of Xeno here. Being extremely stunted emotionally, socially
you really need to be careful here - sorry for being so picky, it's not
like I don't appreciate your time and effort here.

Thanks Bob !!!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> Obba,
>
> Wilma is a winner.
>
> From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened* vote
is
> a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
concerned
> about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
college,
> any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the polls
> close?
>
> I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything), I
> thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
talking
> points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
>
> Your tickets are in the mail.
>
> If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of the
beat
> the campaign is looking for?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> >
> > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
> > or
> >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country singer)
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk
> >
> > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this song
> style
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ
> > "call me darling, you
> > never even call me by my name. mm"
> >
> > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover the
> > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until then,
> > okay?
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very high"?
> > >
> > >
> > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the knowledge,
> > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of our
> > lives,
> > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and Richard
tire
> > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the Pacific
> > > Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking
> > > up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after Richard has
> > tires
> > > him out, I think we can buy Buck's support
> > > with a promise to make all colors illegal---except gold. In the
> > > meantime, we need to launch our Share
> > > strategy and begin posting half baked poems and syrupy sweet
photos
> > like
> > > the following. For the sympathy vote, I think writing a
> > > C&W hurtin song would be an excellent start; maybe with a title
> like:
> > > "My Baby Dumped Me For The Infinite".
> > > And remember NO MORE OPINIONS ON ANYTHING, and if any smart asses
> ask
> > > you what you're for, just say:
> > > "Change we can believe in" and drones.  More soon---its in the bag
> my
> > > friend.-BP
> > >
> > >   I can't be as
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real
good
> > time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK
they
> > may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)
>
> You better be prepared to demonstrate these at our gathering in
Victoria, it'll be a highlight. In fact, we should all have something we
can share with the others. Obba?

Here's a teaser then - http://youtu.be/oUD8jbLpk84?t=2m51s


> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> > > Beautiful performance this evening.
> > > Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> > > entertaining.
> > > They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> > > incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> > > The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening
until
> > it
> > > happens. lol
> > >
> > > Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto
the
> > > stage more than I did.
> > >   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas
inbetween
> > sets,
> > > that did not make her like the music more than dance.
> > >   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
> > laughing?"
> > >I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for
trying
> > to
> > > see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next
to
> > me.
> > > Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely,
and
> > > then filled me in on the old coot.
> > >
> > >   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American,
Texas,
> > > even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively
near
> > the
> > > girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> > > performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian
Temple
> > > dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her
Mom
> > > were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at
them.
> > > The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff,
and
> > I
> > > was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear
that
> > > Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
> > Texas
> > > were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear
opener
> > > for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was
smiled
> > > at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears
as
> > the
> > > musicians played.
> > >
> > > No diversion.
> > > This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
> > time
> > > folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think
the
> > > story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> > > candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
> > knows
> > > very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of
you
> > TMO
> > > folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Obba,
> > > >
> > > yeah, baby?
> > >
> > > Oh, that was from earlier. ha
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > > > >   Bob,
> > > > >   and wife,
> > > > > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
> > > >
> > > > I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of
the
> > > > "Hidden Iman".
> > > >
> > > Think he is found now.
> > >
> > > > >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > > > > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's
Pimp.
> > > >
> > > > I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its
> > belly
> > > > full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> > > > how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
> > > >
> > > One really cute and exhilarating child!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made
the
> > > > > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > > > > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun
in
> > the
> > > > > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and
redirecting
> > > > light
> > > > > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty
hilarious.
> > > > There
> > > > > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> > > > >
> > > > > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> > > > >
> > > > > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
> > > >
> > > > I like the sou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real good
> time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK they
> may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)

You better be prepared to demonstrate these at our gathering in Victoria, it'll 
be a highlight. In fact, we should all have something we can share with the 
others. Obba?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Price,
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> > Beautiful performance this evening.
> > Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> > entertaining.
> > They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> > incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> > The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening until
> it
> > happens. lol
> >
> > Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto the
> > stage more than I did.
> >   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas inbetween
> sets,
> > that did not make her like the music more than dance.
> >   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
> laughing?"
> >I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for trying
> to
> > see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next to
> me.
> > Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely, and
> > then filled me in on the old coot.
> >
> >   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American, Texas,
> > even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively near
> the
> > girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> > performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian Temple
> > dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her Mom
> > were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at them.
> > The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff, and
> I
> > was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear that
> > Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
> Texas
> > were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear opener
> > for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was smiled
> > at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears as
> the
> > musicians played.
> >
> > No diversion.
> > This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
> time
> > folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think the
> > story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> > candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
> knows
> > very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of you
> TMO
> > folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Obba,
> > >
> > yeah, baby?
> >
> > Oh, that was from earlier. ha
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > > >   Bob,
> > > >   and wife,
> > > > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
> > >
> > > I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> > > "Hidden Iman".
> > >
> > Think he is found now.
> >
> > > >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > > > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
> > >
> > > I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its
> belly
> > > full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> > > how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
> > >
> > One really cute and exhilarating child!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > > > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > > > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in
> the
> > > > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> > > light
> > > > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> > > There
> > > > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> > > >
> > > > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> > > >
> > > > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> > > >
> > > > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
> > >
> > > I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> > > throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would
> justify
> > > a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
> > Buck
> > > won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a
> cheap
> > > shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
> > >
> > How South Dakota Mica?
> > Silly, Mauric

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real good
time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK they
may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Price,
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
>
>
> Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> Beautiful performance this evening.
> Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> entertaining.
> They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening until
it
> happens. lol
>
> Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto the
> stage more than I did.
>   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas inbetween
sets,
> that did not make her like the music more than dance.
>   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
laughing?"
>I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for trying
to
> see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next to
me.
> Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely, and
> then filled me in on the old coot.
>
>   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American, Texas,
> even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively near
the
> girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian Temple
> dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her Mom
> were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at them.
> The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff, and
I
> was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear that
> Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
Texas
> were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear opener
> for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was smiled
> at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears as
the
> musicians played.
>
> No diversion.
> This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
time
> folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think the
> story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
knows
> very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of you
TMO
> folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Obba,
> >
> yeah, baby?
>
> Oh, that was from earlier. ha
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > >   Bob,
> > >   and wife,
> > > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
> >
> > I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> > "Hidden Iman".
> >
> Think he is found now.
>
> > >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
> >
> > I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its
belly
> > full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> > how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
> >
> One really cute and exhilarating child!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in
the
> > > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> > light
> > > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> > There
> > > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> > >
> > > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> > >
> > > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> > >
> > > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
> >
> > I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> > throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would
justify
> > a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
> Buck
> > won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a
cheap
> > shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
> >
> How South Dakota Mica?
> Silly, Maurice Stans is dead too. (Google helped me. Shut up, I know,
I
> didn't know.)
> Who is going to Dubai? Remember I do have a current passport, and have
> no warrants out
> for my arrest. I also know I can't wear a logo shirt there, and no
star
> of david either.
> You were making up the pyrite story, right?
>
>
>
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Gold_Souk
> >
> >
> Ready.
> > >
> > > Looking forward for the tickets. I need to get out of here, cabin
> > fever
> > > brought about by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  wrote:
>
> "My guess is he has a date."
>
> Sorry dear Bob I missed this.
>
> No tamasic, low-vibe activites like dates for me, like I said I'm in
an
> intense tapas, upon my return I plan to use my proposed candidacy
(thank
> you Bob !!!) as a springboard to my Gurudom and will rely on the tried
> and tested formula of using the power differential between me and my
> female disciples to indulge in recurrent, shameless "bone-a-babe"
> rituals (thank you Xeno !!!).
>

Sorry forgot to add that these bone-a-babe rituals will be given a
narrative that supports these women's fantasies. How about Tantric sex?
Yeah I believe that would suffice.

>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality
> > that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed
> > embarrassment.
> >
> > My guess is he has a date.
> >
> > I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I
> would
> > be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding
him,
> > he will be back here, posting again.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is
> > > > > Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and
> > > > > rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it.
> > > > > So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking
> > > > > about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes
> > > > > place to start.:-)
> > > >
> > > > DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he
> > > > wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he
> > > > includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck,
> > > > who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His
> > > > implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach.
> > > >
> > > > Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds
> > > > your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally
> > > > to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I
> > > > don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion
> > > > (humorously, I might add).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some
get
> > upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to
> > discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly
> > from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I
> > thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective,
> > with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: "doctordumbass@"
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13
00:15:10
> > UTC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around
> people
> > discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear
> with
> > us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can
> > discuss TM, CC, GC,
> > > > > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you
take
> > Dr. Dumbass
> > > > > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba
Gopi.
> > Plus with the
> > > > > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140
> > characters or less.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive
> that
> > is FFL before
> > > > > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and
> > closes the pages
> > > > > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > Doc, Dr. Newton is a counseling psychologist, bestselling author and
hypnotherapist whose specialty is research into lives between lives.
I've only read his book Destiny of Souls but a dear friend had a session
when he was traveling in CA years ago.
> >
> >
> > In bringing up Dr. Newton's work I was addressing Seraphita's idea
of Meritocracy being projected onto the cosmos. According to Dr. Newton
it is the soul which decides whether to have an easy or more challenging
life and evidently the soul often understands the wisdom of either
choice. Sometimes an easy life is chosen simply to rest between 2
difficult lives. His book contains dozens of case studies.
>
> Hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha. Case studies, hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha...

Ha - the extent to which people fantasize and come up with bizarre,
intricate narratives to cope up with reality.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ravi Chivukula]

Thank you for bringing this topic up dear Obba. I have to let you know
dear Ann that once I am awake I hate going back to sleep and once I am
asleep I hate getting up - yeah I know a strange problem I have and that
only having a woman in my life can break this habit of mine :-)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
> > Morning wake time. 6am.
> > Oh good.
> >  I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
> > Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice
a day (morning and tea time)?
> > Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
> > When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest
bedroom door?)
> > I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer
welcome house guest I will be.
>
> You can sleep in as long as you like just no ridiculous sounds if you
do the flying sidhi. I am a happy person morning or evening; I basically
hit the floor running in the morning and don't fdrink coffee but my
husband makes a good cup.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ann,
> > > > What time do you wake up?
> > >
> > > Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time,
figuratively when I get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite
often).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic,
because she
> > > > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I
want someone
> > > > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing
it)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode
- always and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare
the special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the
menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical
order, I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@
wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like
living in a
> > > > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of
your
> > > > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides,
foraging squirrels
> > > > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a
flash.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be
there,
> > > > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom
and not even
> > > > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far
as varmints
> > > > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats,
tame dogs lots
> > > > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a
more
> > > > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my
husband could
> > > > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the
fixin's. Just
> > > > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport
or ferry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always
wanted to go!!
> > > > > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S.,
where if a
> > > > > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm
continuously for
> > > > > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's
rights?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives
in my house,
> > > > > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems
to think he
> > > > > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half
the place.
> > > > > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring
it, getting
> > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
> > Morning wake time. 6am. 
> > Oh good.
> >  I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
> > Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice a day 
> > (morning and tea time)?
> > Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
> > When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest bedroom 
> > door?)  
> > I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer welcome 
> > house guest I will be. 
> 
> You can sleep in as long as you like just no ridiculous sounds if you do the 
> flying sidhi. I am a happy person morning or evening; I basically hit the 
> floor running in the morning and don't drink coffee but my husband makes a 
> good cup. 

(I just hit the send by mistake.) If you want to shovel poop it'll have to be 
at 7am because that is when we start the stalls and feeding. We have memory 
foam or feather pillows so bring your latex. Lock the doors all you want. 

It's funny actually because we used to run a bed and breakfast at our former 
house so this all seems perfectly normal.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Ann,
> > > > What time do you wake up?
> > > 
> > > Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when 
> > > I get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, 
> > > > > > because she
> > > > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want 
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - 
> > > > > always and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll 
> > > > > prepare the special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, 
> > > > > they're off the menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an 
> > > > > alphabetical order, I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living 
> > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging 
> > > > > > squirrels
> > > > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not 
> > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as 
> > > > > > varmints
> > > > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs 
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband 
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or 
> > > > > > ferry.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to 
> > > > > > > > > > > go!!
> > > > > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously 
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my 
> > > > > > > > > > house,
> > > > > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to 
> > > > > > think he
> > > > > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the 
> > > > > > place.
> > > > > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
> Morning wake time. 6am. 
> Oh good.
>  I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
> Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice a day 
> (morning and tea time)?
> Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
> When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest bedroom 
> door?)  
> I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer welcome house 
> guest I will be. 

You can sleep in as long as you like just no ridiculous sounds if you do the 
flying sidhi. I am a happy person morning or evening; I basically hit the floor 
running in the morning and don't fdrink coffee but my husband makes a good cup.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Ann,
> > > What time do you wake up?
> > 
> > Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when I 
> > get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because 
> > > > > she
> > > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want 
> > > > > someone
> > > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > > > 
> > > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always 
> > > > and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the 
> > > > special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the 
> > > > menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical 
> > > > order, I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living 
> > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging 
> > > > > squirrels
> > > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not 
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as 
> > > > > varmints
> > > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs 
> > > > > lots
> > > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband 
> > > > > could
> > > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to 
> > > > > > > > > > go!!
> > > > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > > > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > > > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my 
> > > > > > > > > house,
> > > > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think 
> > > > > he
> > > > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the 
> > > > > place.
> > > > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > getting
> > > > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > > > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ravi Chivukula]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic,
because she
> > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want
someone
> > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > >
> > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode -
always
> > > and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare
the special
> > > feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu.
I better
> > > get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be
first
> > > since I am an "A".
> > >
> >
> > ​Yaay - thank you dear Ann !!!
> >
> > But I have to say I have mixed feelings since I was pretty hurt that
you
> > came down to Southern California and didn't meet me.
>
> Oh but Ravi, you know timing is everything. As much as I was yearning
for such a meeting I did not allow myself the indulgence. There is great
reward in waiting - sometimes.

OK fine dear Ann, as much as I didn't like hearing that I will have to
just deal with it right? :-). Love, xoxo.

>
> > ​
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like
living in a
> > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging
squirrels
> > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be
there,
> > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and
not even
> > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as
varmints
> > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame
dogs lots
> > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my
husband could
> > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's.
Just
> > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or
ferry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted
to go!!
> > > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where
if a
> > > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm
continuously for
> > > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in
my house,
> > > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to
think he
> > > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the
place.
> > > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it,
getting
> > > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time
favorite
> > > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" 
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
obbajeeba
> > > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"authfriend"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
turquoiseb
> > > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[obbajeeba]

Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
Morning wake time. 6am. 
Oh good.
 I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice a day 
(morning and tea time)?
Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest bedroom 
door?)  
I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer welcome house 
guest I will be. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Ann,
> > What time do you wake up?
> 
> Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when I 
> get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > > 
> > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always 
> > > and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the 
> > > special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the 
> > > menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, 
> > > I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> Ann,
> What time do you wake up?

Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when I get 
kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > 
> > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always and 
> > forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special 
> > feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better 
> > get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first 
> > since I am an "A".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
> > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
> > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
> > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that
> > > causes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them
> > > such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Ba

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> The brutality of that war was unimaginable. What a chilling
> story.
>
As a child (hell, as an adult) I was always horrified by the total
brutality of the German-Russian Eastern Front conflict during WWII -
including the use of prisoners as slave labour and their being worked to
death - both sides adopting the same approach.
In contrast, British and German prisoners were treated with comparative
respect. And for the Brits there were also the more romantic episodes of
war, for example, German battleships like the Bismark sinking British
cruisers but eventually being cornered themselves and being sunk.
The German-Russian barbarism was unspeakable, in the original sense of
that word: talking about it would degrade the speakers themselves.
But one day, someone mentioned to me something that - as soon as I heard
it - I recognised as true. If the Russians hadn't prosecuted the war
with such ferocity and callous disregard of life then when the Yanks and
Brits had landed at Normandy they would have had to adopt the same
degrading tactics. In a way, the Russians accepted the blood guilt and
maybe there's something of bad faith about striking superior attitudes
about western, more civilised, conduct.
(And let's not forget the controversial issue of the carpet-bombing of
German and Japanese civilian areas carried out by British and American
heavy bombers.)
Having said that, the mass-rape of German girls and women after the
surrender - carried out by Russian occupying forces - really turns my
stomach and has no possible justification.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, Dr. Newton is a counseling psychologist, bestselling author and 
> hypnotherapist whose specialty is research into lives between lives. I've 
> only read his book Destiny of Souls but a dear friend had a session when he 
> was traveling in CA years ago. 
> 
> 
> In bringing up Dr. Newton's work I was addressing Seraphita's idea of 
> Meritocracy being projected onto the cosmos. According to Dr. Newton it is 
> the soul which decides whether to have an easy or more challenging life and 
> evidently the soul often understands the wisdom of either choice. Sometimes 
> an easy life is chosen simply to rest between 2 difficult lives. His book 
> contains dozens of case studies.

Hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha. Case studies, hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:59 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Hi Share - This sounds like this guy's fantasy - how can we choose other than 
> what comes next? Also, if a person can always choose the cushy side, what's 
> the downside to that? Is it a hidden test to look for masochistic tendencies? 
> I would rather learn any lessons during a cushy life, than an awful one. 
> Last, I haven't really found a life that didn't contain some hard lessons in 
> it, for each and every one of us. For one thing, no one gets out of here 
> alive.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens 
> > between lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a 
> > "learning lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, 
> > we are offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as 
> > artist.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Seraphita 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:48 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Re the Theosophists' view I reference below "All of us are reincarnated 
> > over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be 
> > rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's 
> > like to be scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will 
> > have some of our lives as women and other lives as men.":
> > 
> > This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an 
> > artist - to me: God is taking each of "us" on a universal tour to 
> > experience all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are 
> > right and "we" are actually the One Self pretending to be many different 
> > individuals then that accords perfectly with this interpretation of 
> > reincarnation.
> > 
> > The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around 
> > is pretty vulgar really. And the more "spiritualised" version that we're 
> > paying our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy 
> > projected onto the Cosmos. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his 
> > > explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three 
> > > incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old 
> > > tendencies from the previous birth with it. The second birth in 
> > > that sex is more balanced,  while the third incarnation is more 
> > > of an exaggeration of that sex. The super masculine man or the super 
> > > feminine woman. So naturally, the next change, brings with it, 
> > > impressions from the previous birth which was exaggerated. This would 
> > > mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to experience 
> > > from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one another 
> > > going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do unto 
> > > others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That
>  could be
> >  untangling a
> > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 
> > > years
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; 
> > > on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and 
> > > feminine aspects. For exampl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --
> > Or perhaps that attitude toward homosexuality is
> > all ignorant crap, and people are born gay because
> > *they* had that attitude in a previous lifetime,
> > and this time around need to experience what it
> > feels like to be discriminated against.
> >
> > Maybe that attitude is currently in the process of
> > diminishing because the straight folks alive today
> > learned that lesson in *their* previous lifetimes.
> > Maybe in another generation or so nobody will be
> > able to understand why it was ever thought that
> > there was anything wrong with being gay.
> >
> >
> Possibly - and I really do mean possibly - your are correct .
> One of the "problems" with homosexually I have had is that the male
> penis and female vagina are obviously "designed" for each other. The
> male-male-sex and female-female sex seem to me odd for that reason.

Only if you are viewing these 'tools', these organs as a means for procreation. 
If you need to get a job done then you look for the most efficient means to 
have that happen and a slender object that can fit neatly into an opening can 
be just the ticket but if you want to give pleasure or explore new 
possibilities then the tools don't really matter. Male to female suits a 
certain functionality but it doesn't fulfill every eventuality, every desire or 
whim.

> The situation is compounded by current ideas of neo-Darwinism. In this
> view every feature of human life is the result of an evolutionary
> advantage of the characteristic in question. Sounds plausible. But how
> then do you explain homosexual liaisons? The theories I have read sound
> completely unconvincing. A gay is far more likely not to succeed in
> transmitting his genes to future generations.

And how many miscreants (this is the second time today I have used this word, 
what's with that?) should never prolong their sorry genetic line and yet do so 
time after time? No, have it any way you want and procreation be damned.
> Maybe it is Nature and not God who doesn't "like" queers?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[obbajeeba]

Dear Mr. Price,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo


Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
Beautiful performance this evening.
Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
entertaining.
They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening until it
happens. lol

Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto the
stage more than I did.
  I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas inbetween sets,
that did not make her like the music more than dance.
  She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She laughing?"
   I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for trying to
see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next to me.
Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely, and
then filled me in on the old coot.

  I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American, Texas,
even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively near the
girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian Temple
dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her Mom
were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at them. 
The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff, and I
was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear that
Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from Texas
were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear opener
for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was smiled
at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears as the
musicians played.

No diversion.
This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long time
folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think the
story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he knows
very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of you TMO
folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> Dear Obba,
>
yeah, baby?

Oh, that was from earlier. ha

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > Dear Mr. Price,
> >   Bob,
> >   and wife,
> > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
>
> I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> "Hidden Iman".
>
Think he is found now.

> >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
>
> I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its belly
> full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
>
One really cute and exhilarating child!
>
>
> >
> > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in the
> > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> light
> > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> There
> > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> >
> > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> >
> > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> >
> > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
>
> I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would justify
> a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
Buck
> won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a cheap
> shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
>
How South Dakota Mica?
Silly, Maurice Stans is dead too. (Google helped me. Shut up, I know, I
didn't know.)
Who is going to Dubai? Remember I do have a current passport, and have
no warrants out
for my arrest. I also know I can't wear a logo shirt there, and no star
of david either.
You were making up the pyrite story, right?



>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Gold_Souk
>
>
Ready.
> >
> > Looking forward for the tickets. I need to get out of here, cabin
> fever
> > brought about by the ketu subdasha. Lucky all this is coinciding
with
> > the end of the antardasha in another week. Whew.
>
> All I can say about this paragraph is tank God for Google; I reckon
you
> only fly first?
>
You mean, "Thank God for Google?" (small typo, not usual for you.)
I fly first or second or even third. Because I was born first and have
learned I am always first, even if I am second or third.
Not sure if I would fit in an average su

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ann  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> >
> > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always
> > and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special
> > feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better
> > get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first
> > since I am an "A".
> >
> 
> ​Yaay - thank you dear Ann !!!
> 
> But I have to say I have mixed feelings since I was pretty hurt that you
> came down to Southern California and didn't meet me.

Oh but Ravi, you know timing is everything. As much as I was yearning for such 
a meeting I did not allow myself the indulgence. There is great reward in 
waiting - sometimes.

> ​
> 
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
> > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
> > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
> > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > I don't think "creepy" quite covers it in Hitler's case.
> >
> Yes, I must admit it probably helps to be German to have
> followed Hitler as Fuhrer. I wouldn't have trusted his
> directions to the nearest beer hall.
>
> When I was 11 in 1962 and living in Berlin, a German woman
> was talking to my Mum about how one day, during the final
> Battle for Berlin, a group of Nazis came around everyone's
> houses to ask for volunteers to make a last stand against
> the Russian invasion at Tempelhof Airport. A few days
> later the Russians appeared on her doorstep and they were
> all taken to Tempelhof to clear up the dead bodies of the
> teenage boys who'd heeded the call and been massacred as a
> result. Shades of Thermopylae.

The brutality of that war was unimaginable. What a chilling
story.

> 1962: this was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. My
> dad - a fluent German speaker - came home one day and said
> he'd heard a group of middle-aged Germans talking. One said
> to the other: "Well, at least if there is a war they won't
> be able to claim we started it this time."

> Priceless!

Ouch!

My father was a fluent German speaker as well--he was American
quite a few generations back but became a professor of German.
He and my mother went to Germany on their honeymoon in 1938.

For some reason I've never really figured out, the missile
crisis went right by me. I was in college at the time, my
junior year, and I remember not a single thing about it. I
was astonished to read about it years later. The school 
was very politically aware, too. I can't imagine how I
managed to miss it.

We (my family) spent a few days in Berlin in 1954 when we
were in Germany on one of my father's sabbaticals. At the
time there was still plenty of visible bomb damage. And of
course the Wall. As American tourists, we were allowed to
drive through East Berlin; I don't think we were allowed
to get out of the car. Incredibly depressing contrast to
West Berlin, which was so much more vital and energetic.
But in East Berlin there was no bomb damage to be seen. We
made a sort of morbid game of seeing how many people we
could count who were smiling. There were very few.

[FairfieldLife] Too many stars coming to the end of their lives for my liking

[Seraphita]

There's the nostalgia element of course but mostly it's a chilling
reminder of my own mortality!
Legendary singer Linda Ronstadt, 67, told AARP today that she
"can't sing a note" because she suffers from Parkinson's
disease.
http://goo.gl/KlgqcO  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Or perhaps that attitude toward homosexuality is
> > all ignorant crap, and people are born gay because
> > *they* had that attitude in a previous lifetime,
> > and this time around need to experience what it
> > feels like to be discriminated against.
> >
> > Maybe that attitude is currently in the process of
> > diminishing because the straight folks alive today
> > learned that lesson in *their* previous lifetimes.
> > Maybe in another generation or so nobody will be
> > able to understand why it was ever thought that
> > there was anything wrong with being gay.
> >
> Possibly - and I really do mean possibly - your are correct .

To be absolutely honest, I'm not proposing any "karmic"-type
argument seriously. One can invent a whole range of possible
karmic scenarios, but what the hell good do they do you?

> One of the "problems" with homosexually I have had is that
> the male penis and female vagina are obviously "designed"
> for each other. The male-male-sex and female-female sex
> seem to me odd for that reason.

Well, only if you see reproduction as the only point of
sexual activity.

> The situation is compounded by current ideas of neo-Darwinism.
> In this view every feature of human life is the result of an
> evolutionary advantage of the characteristic in question.
> Sounds plausible. But how then do you explain homosexual
> liaisons?

Not *every* feature of human life; every *biological*
feature of human life. Liaisons per se are cultural, not
biological. What does need explanation is the persistence
of a certain percentage of homosexuals in the human
population.

> The theories I have read sound completely unconvincing.

This one sounds pretty good to me; it's from a comment in
a discussion on this very topic on the blog Democratic
Underground:

"Kin Selection is the theory that one's genes can have an evolutionary 
advantage by a non-reproductive individual [who] supports the offspring of 
their close biological relations. Hence most bees do not reproduce, but their 
genes keep going on because they support the reproductive efforts of their 
sister who shares many of their genes.

"Now if you look to humans, consider smallish hunter/gatherer family tribes. 
And let's create a couple of speculative families:

"* Family A has 2 daughters and 3 sons, all of whom grow up to reproduce. Let's 
say the total number of grandchildren is 25. 

"* Family B has 2 daughters and 3 sons, all of whom reproduce except for the 
one son who prefers other men. Let's say the total number of grandchildren is 
20, because this one son has no offspring.

"Looks like Family A has the evolutionary advantage. Except times aren't good 
and the subsistence lifestyle is taking it's toll on the children, who are 
dying left and right.

"Now Family B has the advantage - it has one more adult male who contributes to 
the efforts to feed the family, and fewer children to consume [food] at that.

"So the children in Family B, though fewer in number, have more food, more 
protection, and are more likely to successfully mature and reproduce than the 
children in family A. And that one son's genes are carried on quite nicely in 
the offspring of his sisters and brothers."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1806254&mesg_id=1806486

http://tinyurl.com/lwyv4on

> A gay is far more likely not to succeed in
> transmitting his genes to future generations.

That's really only as of quite recently. Many if not most gay
men can impregnate a woman if it's incumbent upon them to do
so, and in past centuries there wasn't a separate "class" of
gay men. They married women and procreated just as straight
men did, and carried on a more fulfilling sex life on the side
while successfully passing on their genes as well.

I admit I don't know whether the explanation I quoted
from the blog and the one just above conflict with each
other, apply to different time frames, or what. I guess
the takeaway is that there's more than one way to 
account for the persistence of homosexuality.

We don't know exactly how it works yet, but we know that
it does. The evidence is pretty solid now that
homosexuality is biologically based. Given that, we have
to assume there *is* an evolutionary advantage and just
keep looking for it.

> Maybe it is Nature and not God who doesn't "like" queers?

Or maybe they're just fine with God *and* Nature. You know
that homosexual behavior has been found in just about all
species of mammals, right?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[obbajeeba]

Ann,
What time do you wake up?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> 
> Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always and 
> forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special feast 
> for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better get a 
> guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first since I am 
> an "A".
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Ann!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > >
> > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > places on earth.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
> > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
> > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that
> > causes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them
> > such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has
> > taken over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks
> > "They, their," as one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Suppression by coercion, social or political means is not what I'm 
> referring to, although that has been what is accepted as the norm for 
> centuries. I'm saying religions in general would suggest the suppression, not 
> acting out specific desires, in order to extinguish that karma.

Yes, I got that. Did you get that I said I didn't think
there was ever any need for suppression?

> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:43 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>   
>    
>  
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
> > believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then 
> > she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment 
> > was in regard to the role of religion in general, not how people 
> > practice it. People practice their religions according to their ability and 
> > understanding, which has the capacity to evolve as they do.
> 
> I think she was reacting, as I do, to the notion that
> homosexual activity needs to be "suppressed." That's an
> entirely unnecessary cruelty, which, thankfully, we do
> appear to be evolving *past*. With regard to Christianity
> and Judaism, it isn't even clear that the biblical
> passages cited in support of suppression have been
> correctly interpreted.
> 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.
> > 
> > And very well said, Share.
> > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > > > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > > > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > > > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they 
> > > > become stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of 
> > > > religion is to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The
> > > > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > > > birth which was exaggerated.
> > > > 
> > > > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > > > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > > > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > > > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > > > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > > > 
> > > > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > > > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > > > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > > > to change their gender.
> > > > 
> > > > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > > > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > > > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own 
> > > > fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of 
> > > > our other karmasÃÆ'‚  and hang-ups and god only knows 
> > > > how it's going to be expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in 
> > > > the wrong body? That could be untangling a
> > > > >  mess that you'll never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Share Long]

Doc, Dr. Newton is a counseling psychologist, bestselling author and 
hypnotherapist whose specialty is research into lives between lives. I've only 
read his book Destiny of Souls but a dear friend had a session when he was 
traveling in CA years ago. 


In bringing up Dr. Newton's work I was addressing Seraphita's idea of 
Meritocracy being projected onto the cosmos. According to Dr. Newton it is the 
soul which decides whether to have an easy or more challenging life and 
evidently the soul often understands the wisdom of either choice. Sometimes an 
easy life is chosen simply to rest between 2 difficult lives. His book contains 
dozens of case studies.





 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 


  
Hi Share - This sounds like this guy's fantasy - how can we choose other than 
what comes next? Also, if a person can always choose the cushy side, what's the 
downside to that? Is it a hidden test to look for masochistic tendencies? I 
would rather learn any lessons during a cushy life, than an awful one. Last, I 
haven't really found a life that didn't contain some hard lessons in it, for 
each and every one of us. For one thing, no one gets out of here alive.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens between 
> lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a "learning 
> lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, we are 
> offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as artist.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Seraphita 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Re the Theosophists' view I reference below "All of us are reincarnated over 
> many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what 
> it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be 
> scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will have some of 
> our lives as women and other lives as men.":
> 
> This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an 
> artist - to me: God is taking each of "us" on a universal tour to experience 
> all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are right and "we" 
> are actually the One Self pretending to be many different individuals then 
> that accords perfectly with this interpretation of reincarnation.
> 
> The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around is 
> pretty vulgar really. And the more "spiritualised" version that we're paying 
> our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy 
> projected onto the Cosmos. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his 
> > explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three incarnations. 
> > The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old tendencies from the 
> > previous birth with it. The second birth in that sex is more balanced, 
> >  while the third incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The 
> > super masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the next 
> > change, brings with it, impressions from the previous birth which was 
> > exaggerated. This would mean that all these experiences are natural for 
> > everybody to experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we 
> > treat one another going through theses phases of evolution determine our 
> > own fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of 
> > our other karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That
 could be
>  untangling a
> >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; 
> > on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and feminine 
> > aspects. For example, we all have estrogen and testosterone flowing around 
> > in our bodies. Given the ever expanding nature of the universe, it makes 
> > sense to me that a variety of expressions with regards to gender will be 
> > the rule rather than the exception.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Seraphita s3raphita@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ravi Chivukula]

On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ann  wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
>
> Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always
> and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special
> feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better
> get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first
> since I am an "A".
>

​Yaay - thank you dear Ann !!!

But I have to say I have mixed feelings since I was pretty hurt that you
came down to Southern California and didn't meet me.
​


> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Ann!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > >
> > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > places on earth.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
> > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
> > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
> > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that
> > causes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them
> > such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has
> > taken over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>

> I don't think "creepy" quite covers it in Hitler's case.
>
Yes, I must admit it probably helps to be German to have followed Hitler
as Fuhrer. I wouldn't have trusted his directions to the nearest beer
hall.
When I was 11 in 1962 and living in Berlin, a German woman was talking
to my Mum about how one day, during the final Battle for Berlin, a group
of Nazis came around everyone's houses to ask for volunteers to make a
last stand against the Russian invasion at Tempelhof Airport. A few days
later the Russians appeared on her doorstep and they were all taken to
Tempelhof to clear up the dead bodies of the teenage boys who'd heeded
the call and been massacred as a result. Shades of Thermopylae.
1962: this was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. My dad - a fluent
German speaker - came home one day and said he'd heard a group of
middle-aged Germans talking. One said to the other: "Well, at least if
there is a war they won't be able to claim we started it this time."
Priceless!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ravi Chivukula]

Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Thanks Ann!
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> >
> > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > >
> > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
places on earth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that
causes
> > > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them
such
> > > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has
taken over
> > > > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks
"They, their," as one
> > > > > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is
bad.) conclusion:
> > > > > > > > > > >
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this
situation.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > But if he divests himself of his paranoid delusions
then who is he
> > > > > > > > > going to have as imaginary friends and enemies? He'll
be so LONELY.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, and he can find one of these type of places:
> > > > > > > > >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >   when a FFL Group Reunion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19k-YtwXTg
> > > > > > > > >comes, along,
> > > > > > > > > we will find out the real reasons he behaves this way.
:)   MJ, you hav

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Mike Dixon]

Suppression by coercion, social or political means is not what I'm referring 
to, although that has been what is accepted as the norm for centuries. I'm 
saying religions in general would suggest the suppression, not acting out 
specific desires, in order to extinguish that karma.

 


 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
   
 
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
> believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then 
> she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was 
> in regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. 
> People practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, 
> which has the capacity to evolve as they do.

I think she was reacting, as I do, to the notion that
homosexual activity needs to be "suppressed." That's an
entirely unnecessary cruelty, which, thankfully, we do
appear to be evolving *past*. With regard to Christianity
and Judaism, it isn't even clear that the biblical
passages cited in support of suppression have been
correctly interpreted.

> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> 
>   
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.
> 
> And very well said, Share.
> 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > > to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The
> > > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > > birth which was exaggerated.
> > > 
> > > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > > 
> > > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > > to change their gender.
> > > 
> > > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. 
> > > Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That 
> > > could be untangling a
> > > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > >
> >
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: When the gods of rock mixed with the common people . . .

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> 
>   That dance crowd was a little tame though, not like the later 60's.
> These guys were in their Sunday dinner finery and barely shakin'.
> 
> Sunday dinner finery is now registering to me as : "The men at least
> made an effort to look smart."

Yes they did and, after all, even the Beatles were in suits so it's not like it 
would appear nerdy to be wearing a tie. God, John was always my favourite and 
seeing that clip just reinforced that.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)

Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always and 
forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special feast 
for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better get a 
guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first since I am 
an "A".
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ann!
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > >
> > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > >
> > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> places on earth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba
> no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb
> no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS
> that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme
> has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that
> causes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them
> such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has
> taken over
> > > > > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks
> "They, their," as one
> > > > > > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is
> bad.) conclusion:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this
> situation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > But if he divests himself of h

[FairfieldLife] Re: When the gods of rock mixed with the common people . . .

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>

  That dance crowd was a little tame though, not like the later 60's.
These guys were in their Sunday dinner finery and barely shakin'.

Sunday dinner finery is now registering to me as : "The men at least
made an effort to look smart."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[doctordumbass]

Thanks Ann!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a 
> > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your property, 
> > preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels and other 
> > varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > 
> > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there, perhaps 
> > coincident with Rory's visit!
> 
> I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even have to 
> share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints go we have 
> quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots of bird life 
> including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more substantial meal there are 
> always the deer, though. Or, my husband could do a slow cooked smoked turkey 
> on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just give me your arrival date. We are 5 
> minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!! On a 
> > > > related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a person 
> > > > inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for seven 
> > > > years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > 
> > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house, cooks me 
> > > meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he can stay 
> > > for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place. So, I 
> > > guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting there by 
> > > > > > ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite 
> > > > > > places on earth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb 
> > > > > > > > > > > no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS that
> > > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme has
> > > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that causes
> > > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them such
> > > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has taken over
> > > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks "They, 
> > > > > > > > > > their," as one
> > > > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is bad.) 
> > > > > > > > > > conclusion:
> > > > > > > > > > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this 
> > > > > > > > > > situation.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > But if he divests himself of his paranoid delusions then who 
> > > > > > > > > is he
> > > > > > > > going to have as imaginary friends and enemies? He'll be so 
> > > > > > > > LONELY.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, and he can find one of these type of places:
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   when a FFL Group Reunion 
> > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19k-YtwXTg
> > > > > > > >    comes, along,
> > > > > > > > we will find out the real reasons he behaves this way. :)   MJ, 
> > > > > > > > you have
> > > > > > > > that vacation home read

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[Ann]

I liked Judy's response below here a lot. It is cogent, clear, apropos and very 
relevant and balanced; it is how I like many things in my life.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like
> > them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff.  I
> > do like some of his other types.  I understand your position
> > on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent.
> 
> Just out of curiosity, then, do you find that his comment
> (quoted below) was *just* a tad hypocritical?
> 
> > I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it
> > does not get to me.
> 
> Possibly because you've protected yourself by supporting him,
> so you are pretty sure he isn't going to attack *you*. Easier
> to distance yourself from his attacks on others.
> 
> > But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least,
> > seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others.
> 
> I do some, but not all that much, Susan. And I very rarely
> do it as a substitute for a reasoned reply, unlike Barry.
> 
> > Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source
> > of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you
> > are very sure of your opinions.  But I find many (not all
> > some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational
> > and others to be about details and distracting from the main
> > point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from.
> 
> Fine, not everyone likes all of everyone else's posts.
> There are quite a few *I* move on from.
> 
> I did explain to you once before that often a detail
> that's wrong can affect the validity of the main point,
> so correcting a detail can be more important than it
> seems on its own terms.
> 
> > Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were
> > a newbie here.  Notice how may are attacking other people
> > (not just Barry's, but several the others).  Name Calling,
> > bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about
> > people's past positions on something or someone.  It is
> > pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job
> > and other responsibilities, really repetitious.
> 
> I think you're referring to a rather heated, prolonged
> exchange I had with iranitea this past week. If you were
> to start at the beginning of that exchange and read through
> it, you would, I believe, see that it was iranitea who
> introduced, maintained, and escalated the ad hominem. He
> showed up here expressly to pick a fight with me and to
> dump on Robin. He's done that on a regular basis ever
> since we had a contretemps back in December 2011. The
> whole thing was odd, and extremely unpleasant.
> 
> But whatever his weird problem is, I'm not going to
> allow him to say things about me and about Robin that
> aren't true, or things that are not true about his own
> behavior in the past. What he wrote about Robin that
> sparked the contretemps back then was awful,
> inexcusable, and he's never shown the slightest bit of
> remorse for it. I'm not going to allow him to sugar-
> coat it.
> 
> I think the point here, Susan, is that you can't really
> evaluate someone's posting behavior if you don't take time
> to follow their posts. When you pop in and out as you do,
> take a quick glance at a few posts and see ad hominems,
> and conclude that the poster does "lots of ad h posting"
> and is "confrontational," without looking at what they're
> responding to or knowing the history behind it, you're
> likely to get a very inaccurate picture.
> 
> I don't mind in the slightest if you don't read my posts.
> I *do* mind when, on the basis of a glance here and there,
> you mischaracterize my posting behavior.
> 
> > I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I
> > am not advocating posting limits.  It is more the tone of
> > the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on
> > and is not resolved.  I mean, if you don't like someone, why
> > bother to read what they write?
> 
> In Barry's case, because he so often says things about me
> and others that are maliciously untrue.
> 
> > Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case.
> 
> Arguing can be fun when it doesn't get personal.
> 
> > But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in
> > any way by criticizing.  Or pointing things out.
> 
> The "anyone else" isn't the only person reading the posts,
> Susan. Well, sometimes it is! But you know what I mean.
> I don't entertain any illusions that I'm going to change
> a person who has attacked me or others gratuitously and
> falsely by calling him out on it, but I want it on the
> record.
> 
> > Maybe this post is just another one of those.So,
> > for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H
> > whiff is my solution.
> 
> Again, seems perfectly reasonable to me, but then you
> really oughtn't to make these judgmental comments

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Mike Dixon]

I never heard any figures of that nature only that he thought the vedic 
religion was, as he put it, the trunk of the tree and other religions were like 
branches off the trunk.

 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
   
 
But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I heard 
something along the lines of:Judaism expresses 75% of natural lawCatholicism 
expresses 50% of natural lawProtestantism expresses 25%Had you ever heard these 
figures?

 


 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning anyone 
about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation which may or 
may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that religions still have that 
power but I also believe he knew that religion is pure and our ability to 
understand the intent is according to our own individual capacity or level of 
evolution.
 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's a hot 
topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at the very least, 
condemning people if their sexuality is different than the supposed norm.

I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have any power 
to protect the evolution of souls.
 


 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then she's 
all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was in 
regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. People 
practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, which 
has the capacity to evolve as they do..
 


 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
wrote: 
> 
> Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by 
> "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who 
> might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any 
> enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self 
> against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life 
> take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well said, 
> Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
>  wrote: 
> > 
> > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > to protect the evolution of the soul. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> >  From: authfriend  
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 
> > 2013 6:24 PM 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years 
> >   
> >    
> >  
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember 
> > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other 
> > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite 
> > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The 
> > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the 
> > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous 
> > > birth which was exaggerated. 
> > 
> > When you first posted this, you presented it as an 
> > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine" 
> > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about 
> > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted 
> > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight. 
> > 
> > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with 
> > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but 
> > sometime

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --
> Or perhaps that attitude toward homosexuality is
> all ignorant crap, and people are born gay because
> *they* had that attitude in a previous lifetime,
> and this time around need to experience what it
> feels like to be discriminated against.
>
> Maybe that attitude is currently in the process of
> diminishing because the straight folks alive today
> learned that lesson in *their* previous lifetimes.
> Maybe in another generation or so nobody will be
> able to understand why it was ever thought that
> there was anything wrong with being gay.
>
>
Possibly - and I really do mean possibly - your are correct .
One of the "problems" with homosexually I have had is that the male
penis and female vagina are obviously "designed" for each other. The
male-male-sex and female-female sex seem to me odd for that reason.
The situation is compounded by current ideas of neo-Darwinism. In this
view every feature of human life is the result of an evolutionary
advantage of the characteristic in question. Sounds plausible. But how
then do you explain homosexual liaisons? The theories I have read sound
completely unconvincing. A gay is far more likely not to succeed in
transmitting his genes to future generations.
Maybe it is Nature and not God who doesn't "like" queers?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[Ravi Chivukula]

"My guess is he has a date."

Sorry dear Bob I missed this.

No tamasic, low-vibe activites like dates for me, like I said I'm in an
intense tapas, upon my return I plan to use my proposed candidacy (thank
you Bob !!!) as a springboard to my Gurudom and will rely on the tried
and tested formula of using the power differential between me and my
female disciples to indulge in recurrent, shameless "bone-a-babe"
rituals (thank you Xeno !!!).


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality
> that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed
> embarrassment.
>
> My guess is he has a date.
>
> I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I
would
> be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him,
> he will be back here, posting again.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is
> > > > Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and
> > > > rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it.
> > > > So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking
> > > > about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes
> > > > place to start.:-)
> > >
> > > DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he
> > > wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he
> > > includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck,
> > > who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His
> > > implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach.
> > >
> > > Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds
> > > your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally
> > > to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I
> > > don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion
> > > (humorously, I might add).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get
> upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to
> discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly
> from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I
> thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective,
> with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: "doctordumbass@"
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10
> UTC
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around
people
> discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear
with
> us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can
> discuss TM, CC, GC,
> > > > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take
> Dr. Dumbass
> > > > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi.
> Plus with the
> > > > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140
> characters or less.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive
that
> is FFL before
> > > > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and
> closes the pages
> > > > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[doctordumbass]

Hi Share - This sounds like this guy's fantasy - how can we choose other than 
what comes next? Also, if a person can always choose the cushy side, what's the 
downside to that? Is it a hidden test to look for masochistic tendencies? I 
would rather learn any lessons during a cushy life, than an awful one. Last, I 
haven't really found a life that didn't contain some hard lessons in it, for 
each and every one of us. For one thing, no one gets out of here alive.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens between 
> lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a "learning 
> lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, we are 
> offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as artist.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Seraphita 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Re the Theosophists' view I reference below "All of us are reincarnated over 
> many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be rich, what 
> it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's like to be 
> scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will have some of 
> our lives as women and other lives as men.":
> 
> This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an 
> artist - to me: God is taking each of "us" on a universal tour to experience 
> all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are right and "we" 
> are actually the One Self pretending to be many different individuals then 
> that accords perfectly with this interpretation of reincarnation.
> 
> The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around is 
> pretty vulgar really. And the more "spiritualised" version that we're paying 
> our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy 
> projected onto the Cosmos. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his 
> > explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three incarnations. 
> > The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old tendencies from the 
> > previous birth with it. The second birth in that sex is more balanced, 
> >  while the third incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The 
> > super masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the next 
> > change, brings with it, impressions from the previous birth which was 
> > exaggerated. This would mean that all these experiences are natural for 
> > everybody to experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we 
> > treat one another going through theses phases of evolution determine our 
> > own fate. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of 
> > our other karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That 
> > could be
>  untangling a
> >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; 
> > on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and feminine 
> > aspects. For example, we all have estrogen and testosterone flowing around 
> > in our bodies. Given the ever expanding nature of the universe, it makes 
> > sense to me that a variety of expressions with regards to gender will be 
> > the rule rather than the exception.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Seraphita s3raphita@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:22 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> >   
> > That was the Theosophists' line. They said that all of us are reincarnated 
> > over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be 
> > rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's 
> > like to be scorned, and so on . . .  including, naturally, each of us 
> > will have some of our lives as women and other lives as men. 
> > 
> > The thinking was that if you were a woman in a previous life and had just 
> > now incarnated as a man you could have homosexual tendencies this time 
> > around. Or if you were a woman and your next reincarnation was scheduled to 
> > be as a man you might have lesbian tendencies. (And various changes on that 
> > theme.)
> > 
> > What's neat about the theory is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens
between lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to
have a "learning lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we
come in, we are offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea
of God as artist.
>
>
I must have chosen somewhere between those options you present - though
I priotitsed the cushy option. Maybe I just need a well-deserved rest.
  The point I wish to emphasise is that if the Advaitan view is correct,
we (the One Self) really are experiencing all the lives that human
beings are capable off -"we" are all the One Self.
The downside of this view is that I must necessarily actually be Pee-wee
Herman! .
.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[Seraphita]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>

> > Me, I love Sharon Tate. Check out this clip. How anyone could
> > butcher someone as beautiful as this is beyond me:
> > http://tinyurl.com/l5ca7e3
> are equally
> Lots of beautiful women in the world. How anybody could
> butcher *anybody*, other than in self-defense, is beyond
> me.

Yes,I accept your rebuke. Of course although Sharon naturally has
attracted the most attention the other victims are equally deserving of
being saluted. Steve Parent - an 18-year-old kid with everything to live
for - butchered by speed-freak "Tex" Watson. Utterly,utterly pointless.
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
> believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then 
> she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was 
> in regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. 
> People practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, 
> which has the capacity to evolve as they do.

I think she was reacting, as I do, to the notion that
homosexual activity needs to be "suppressed." That's an
entirely unnecessary cruelty, which, thankfully, we do
appear to be evolving *past*. With regard to Christianity
and Judaism, it isn't even clear that the biblical
passages cited in support of suppression have been
correctly interpreted.



> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>   
>    
>  
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.
> 
> And very well said, Share.
> 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > > to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The
> > > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > > birth which was exaggerated.
> > > 
> > > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > > 
> > > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > > to change their gender.
> > > 
> > > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. 
> > > Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That 
> > > could be untangling a
> > > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> I think what Charlie Lutes said about previous lives could be
> applied to anyone with whom there is a difference between
> their physical gender and their psychological gender.

Well, that wouldn't include most homosexuals, but that
was how it was originally presented. Perhaps you missed
what I wrote to Mike:

> > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > 
> > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > to change their gender.

I should clarify this, having done a little research.

Gender dysphoria and sexual preference (in the sense of who
you're attracted to sexually) are independent of each other.
This gets complicated: apparently most gender-dysphoric
individuals regard themselves as heterosexual, which would
mean that a male who believes he's really female is sexually
attracted to other males. A gender-dysphoric man who was
attracted to women would consider himself homosexual.

But this is *not* the case with most homosexuals, who are
comfortable with their sexual identity, i.e., most homosexual
men don't want to be women.

(I think trying to scope out the past-life karma of any
particular individual based on Charlie's formula is a mug's
game, frankly. I'll stick with what we know from science,
if only because I find it a lot more interesting!)



> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:38 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>  
> 
> 
>   
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
> >
> > I think it was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible 
> > explanation from Charlie Lutes: that a person is carrying non 
> > physical gender qualities over from a previous life time.
> 
> No, that had to do with homosexuals, not transgender
> individuals. Didn't make any sense for homosexuals,
> though. Charlie assumed homosexual men had feminine
> characteristics and homosexual women had masculine
> characteristics, an old stereotype that doesn't apply
> anywhere near across the board. And most homosexuals
> have no desire to be the opposite sex.
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:>
> > > > Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche.
> > > > 
> > > > This Manning "chap" becomes more embarrassing by the day.
> > > > From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read:
> > > > While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions
> > > > on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense
> > > > regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from
> > > > military service.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work.
> > > 
> > > Not any more. She's been dishonorably discharged.
> > > 
> > > She said she joined the Army to try to overcome her sense
> > > that she was a woman. Now that the trial is over and she's
> > > out of the Army, she's decided to go for it.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, research is increasingly showing that gender dysphoria
> > > has biological causes. It's beginning to look as though a
> > > man, say, doesn't want to be a woman because he's screwed
> > > up, but is screwed up because he wants to be a woman.
> > > 
> > > It's hard to imagine what it must be like to feel you're in
> > > the wrong kind of body and to know that everybody thinks
> > > you're someone you know you aren't--and for this to be the
> > > case from the time you were a very little kid. That would
> > > mess with anyone's mind.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a 
> refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your property, 
> preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels and other 
> varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> 
> Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there, perhaps 
> coincident with Rory's visit!

I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even have to 
share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints go we have 
quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots of bird life 
including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more substantial meal there are 
always the deer, though. Or, my husband could do a slow cooked smoked turkey on 
the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes 
from the airport or ferry.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!! On a 
> > > related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a person 
> > > inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for seven 
> > > years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > 
> > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house, cooks me 
> > meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he can stay 
> > for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place. So, I guess 
> > the answer to that is "yes".
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting there by 
> > > > > ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite places 
> > > > > on earth.
> > > > 
> > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS that
> > > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme has
> > > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that causes
> > > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them such
> > > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has taken over
> > > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks "They, their," 
> > > > > > > > > as one
> > > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is bad.) 
> > > > > > > > > conclusion:
> > > > > > > > > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this situation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But if he divests himself of his paranoid delusions then who is 
> > > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > going to have as imaginary friends and enemies? He'll be so 
> > > > > > > LONELY.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, and he can find one of these type of places:
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   when a FFL Group Reunion 
> > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19k-YtwXTg
> > > > > > >    comes, along,
> > > > > > > we will find out the real reasons he behaves this way. :)   MJ, 
> > > > > > > you have
> > > > > > > that vacation home ready yet?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hey, I'm ready for all of you. Victoria is big enough for ALL of 
> > > > > > you. When do you want to come?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm wondering
> if anyone
> would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the last
> paragraph.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore
> > > the act because of who he did it with? You know the
> > > women and don't like them or what?
> >
> > I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different
> > direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most
> > puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers-
> > boning-their-students thang is that often I really,
> > really don't "get" the attraction, from the woman's
> > side.
> >
> > Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but
> > I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi
> > Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have
> > sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan-
> > dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their
> > minds, possibly.
> >
> > But sexually attractive? I just don't get it.
> >
> > With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely
> > see them being considered sexually attractive by their
> > students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung
> > a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly
> > met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even
> > by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers,
> > because they were hot!
> >
> > But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many
> > reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him,
> > most of them closely tied to the word "devotee," but I
> > find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to
> > bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.

As far as I can tell Barry is a bit like a dog, worrying over bones. I think he 
means something like stewing bones or maybe it's Marylebones but for sure they 
include thigh bones. Whatever it is I believe he is fairly devoted to them - 
including Milk Bones. Honestly, the old dog just can't seem to help himself 
from digging up old bones or perhaps he's just pining over lost bones or bones 
that never materialized at all. Yes, I think I may have cracked the mystery 
here of the last paragraph, at least it feels like I might have; I can feel it 
in my bones. 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[John]

Share,

I've been around lurking and posting a few times.  But not as much as the 
others around here.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> John, welcome back to you too!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: John 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:09 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Bob,
> 
> I didn't realize MM was Jewish and an accountant at that!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > I heard:
> > 
> > Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> > Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> > Protestantism expresses 25%
> > Islam expresses 14%
> > Darwinism expresses 9%%
> > GAAP (Generally accepted accounting principles) expresses 5%
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  , Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I
> > heard something along the lines of:
> > > Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> > > Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> > > Protestantism expresses 25%
> > > Had you ever heard these figures?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >  From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> > years
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning
> > anyone about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation
> > which may or may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that
> > religions still have that power but I also believe he knew that religion
> > is pure and our ability to understand the intent is according to our own
> > individual capacity or level of evolution.
> > >
> > > From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> > years
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's
> > a hot topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at
> > the very least, condemning people if their sexuality is different than
> > the supposed norm.
> > >
> > > I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have
> > any power to protect the evolution of souls.
> > >
> > > From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> > years
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was
> > that I believe it's open season on harassing people about their
> > sexuality, then she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you
> > thought. My comment was in regard to the role of religion in
> > general, not how people practice it. People practice their religions
> > according to their ability and understanding, which has the capacity to
> > evolve as they do..
> > >
> > > From: authfriend authfriend@
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> > years
> > >
> > > Â
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> >  , "sharelong60" sharelong60@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > > > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > > > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > > > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > > > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > > > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well
> > said, Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> >  , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the
> > suppression of homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that
> > transitional incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life-
> > time. In other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed,
> > they become stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose
> > of religion is to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Â http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife//info
> 
> Link doesn't work, but the "neo" gave me enough info to find
> the answer:
> 
> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130808052930AAdTS3F
> 
> It seems they are rolling out a new web interface, and not
> everyone is seeing it yet. There a lot of complaints about it.

Oh, dear heaven. That's an understatement. Folks are frothing
at the mouth, hundreds of them. Apparently it screws
*everything* up.

I hope it doesn't foul up the forwarding of all the posts
to Mail-Archive.com. If it'll still be possible to *make*
posts, that is.

This looks like *major* bad news.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like
> them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff.  I
> do like some of his other types.  I understand your position
> on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent.

Just out of curiosity, then, do you find that his comment
(quoted below) was *just* a tad hypocritical?

> I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it
> does not get to me.

Possibly because you've protected yourself by supporting him,
so you are pretty sure he isn't going to attack *you*. Easier
to distance yourself from his attacks on others.

> But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least,
> seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others.

I do some, but not all that much, Susan. And I very rarely
do it as a substitute for a reasoned reply, unlike Barry.

> Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source
> of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you
> are very sure of your opinions.  But I find many (not all
> some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational
> and others to be about details and distracting from the main
> point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from.

Fine, not everyone likes all of everyone else's posts.
There are quite a few *I* move on from.

I did explain to you once before that often a detail
that's wrong can affect the validity of the main point,
so correcting a detail can be more important than it
seems on its own terms.

> Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were
> a newbie here.  Notice how may are attacking other people
> (not just Barry's, but several the others).  Name Calling,
> bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about
> people's past positions on something or someone.  It is
> pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job
> and other responsibilities, really repetitious.

I think you're referring to a rather heated, prolonged
exchange I had with iranitea this past week. If you were
to start at the beginning of that exchange and read through
it, you would, I believe, see that it was iranitea who
introduced, maintained, and escalated the ad hominem. He
showed up here expressly to pick a fight with me and to
dump on Robin. He's done that on a regular basis ever
since we had a contretemps back in December 2011. The
whole thing was odd, and extremely unpleasant.

But whatever his weird problem is, I'm not going to
allow him to say things about me and about Robin that
aren't true, or things that are not true about his own
behavior in the past. What he wrote about Robin that
sparked the contretemps back then was awful,
inexcusable, and he's never shown the slightest bit of
remorse for it. I'm not going to allow him to sugar-
coat it.

I think the point here, Susan, is that you can't really
evaluate someone's posting behavior if you don't take time
to follow their posts. When you pop in and out as you do,
take a quick glance at a few posts and see ad hominems,
and conclude that the poster does "lots of ad h posting"
and is "confrontational," without looking at what they're
responding to or knowing the history behind it, you're
likely to get a very inaccurate picture.

I don't mind in the slightest if you don't read my posts.
I *do* mind when, on the basis of a glance here and there,
you mischaracterize my posting behavior.

> I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I
> am not advocating posting limits.  It is more the tone of
> the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on
> and is not resolved.  I mean, if you don't like someone, why
> bother to read what they write?

In Barry's case, because he so often says things about me
and others that are maliciously untrue.

> Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case.

Arguing can be fun when it doesn't get personal.

> But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in
> any way by criticizing.  Or pointing things out.

The "anyone else" isn't the only person reading the posts,
Susan. Well, sometimes it is! But you know what I mean.
I don't entertain any illusions that I'm going to change
a person who has attacked me or others gratuitously and
falsely by calling him out on it, but I want it on the
record.

> Maybe this post is just another one of those.So,
> for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H
> whiff is my solution.

Again, seems perfectly reasonable to me, but then you
really oughtn't to make these judgmental comments--
especially when you're *selectively* judgmental.

Finally, changing the subject, I thought your response to
Michael was superb.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was
> > > not including Barry in the posts that I don't read.  I do
> > > skip his posts where he ge

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Â http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife//info

>

Link doesn't work, but the "neo" gave me enough info to find the answer:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130808052930AAdTS3F


It seems they are rolling out a new web interface, and not everyone is
seeing it yet. There a lot of complaints about it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Share Long]

John, welcome back to you too!





 From: John 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 


  
Bob,

I didn't realize MM was Jewish and an accountant at that!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> I heard:
> 
> Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> Protestantism expresses 25%
> Islam expresses 14%
> Darwinism expresses 9%%
> GAAP (Generally accepted accounting principles) expresses 5%
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I
> heard something along the lines of:
> > Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> > Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> > Protestantism expresses 25%
> > Had you ever heard these figures?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning
> anyone about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation
> which may or may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that
> religions still have that power but I also believe he knew that religion
> is pure and our ability to understand the intent is according to our own
> individual capacity or level of evolution.
> >
> > From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's
> a hot topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at
> the very least, condemning people if their sexuality is different than
> the supposed norm.
> >
> > I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have
> any power to protect the evolution of souls.
> >
> > From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was
> that I believe it's open season on harassing people about their
> sexuality, then she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you
> thought. My comment was in regard to the role of religion in
> general, not how people practice it. People practice their religions
> according to their ability and understanding, which has the capacity to
> evolve as they do..
> >
> > From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , "sharelong60" sharelong60@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well
> said, Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the
> suppression of homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that
> transitional incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life-
> time. In other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed,
> they become stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose
> of religion is to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: authfriend
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>   > > Sent: Friday, August 23,
> 2013 6:24 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , Mike D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shale is the new Black

[John]

Richard,

We were speculating here on FFL that Mexico could and would join the USA as 
part of a one-world government trend.  And, the US national chart and US 
Constitution would be able to handle the heavy load.  It would be good for both 
countries.  The US has the jobs, and Mexico has the manpower to do the work.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> 
> "They've got jobs for anybody who can run a back hoe, a bulldozer, a
> bobcat, a maintainer, any type of equipment, all types of I.T. jobs."
> - Dave Walbert, owner of Pioneer Barbecue
> 
> My prediction: Mexico will become a part of Texas.
> 
> YNN: Austin/Round Rock/San Marcos
> Saturday, August 24, 2013
> http://tinyurl.com/mu6afz3 
> 
> 
>  
>  oom-for-area-business>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

Yes dear Bob, I'm in the middle of an intense tapas to align the Natural
Law behind my proposed candidacy but I'm popping in and out of my
dizzying array of alternating UC, GC and BC , out of sheer compassion of
course, to enjoy your posts.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> Correction:
>
> I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> "Hidden Imam".
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > Dear Obba,
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > >
> > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > >   Bob,
> > >   and wife,
> > > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
> >
> > I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> > "Hidden Iman".
> >
> > >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
> >
> > I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its
belly
> > full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> > how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in
the
> > > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> > light
> > > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> > There
> > > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> > >
> > > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> > >
> > > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> > >
> > > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
> >
> > I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> > throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would
justify
> > a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
> Buck
> > won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a
cheap
> > shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Gold_Souk
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Looking forward for the tickets. I need to get out of here, cabin
> > fever
> > > brought about by the ketu subdasha. Lucky all this is coinciding
> with
> > > the end of the antardasha in another week. Whew.
> >
> > All I can say about this paragraph is tank God for Google; I reckon
> you
> > only fly first?
> >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, Wilma passed almost 10 years ago, and she had no
> > > offspring (Lesbian), but I know her nephew who plays guitar and
> works
> > as
> > > a magician (yes, a Magician)in LA, but the good news, music runs
in
> > his
> > > family blood, something a lot of people forget certain hereditary
> > traits
> > > allow for this dharmic curse(kind of like ignoring Maharishi's
> > relatives
> > > is probably not a good idea, even if they came out of the
woodwork,
> > > dhamra man, Dharma.).  (and... Business is slack in Hollywood for
> the
> > > meek, right now, so he, him, Wilma's nephew, might be available.
You
> > can
> > > catch him at the Castle?)
> > > If that doesn't work out, I don't know who handles Janis's rights.
> > >   You might want to think of Bette Midler, she may be up to it.
> > >   Remember the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6okRuOLc8
>
> >
> >
> > Alternatively, I'm wondering if you (I'm still on probation)  could
> > speak with the MGC and find
> > out if they would consider recording a music video like this for the
> > campaign (including the wardrobe and
> > choreography):
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrfY7RNaBjw
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > >
> > > > Obba,
> > > >
> > > > Wilma is a winner.
> > > >
> > > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
> > vote
> > > is
> > > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> > > concerned
> > > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> > > college,
> > > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the
> polls
> > > > close?
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save
everything),
> I
> > > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> > > talking
> > > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > > >
> > > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > > >
> > > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of
> the
> > > beat
> > > > the campaign is looking for?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
>
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
>
> >
> > > > > or
> > > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (br

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[John]

Bob,

I didn't realize MM was Jewish and an accountant at that!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> I heard:
> 
> Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> Protestantism expresses 25%
> Islam expresses 14%
> Darwinism expresses 9%%
> GAAP (Generally accepted accounting principles) expresses 5%
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I
> heard something along the lines of:
> > Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> > Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> > Protestantism expresses 25%
> > Had you ever heard these figures?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> > Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning
> anyone about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation
> which may or may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that
> religions still have that power but I also believe he knew that religion
> is pure and our ability to understand the intent is according to our own
> individual capacity or level of evolution.
> >
> > From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's
> a hot topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at
> the very least, condemning people if their sexuality is different than
> the supposed norm.
> >
> > I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have
> any power to protect the evolution of souls.
> >
> > From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was
> that I believe it's open season on harassing people about their
> sexuality, then she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you
> thought. My comment was in regard to the role of religion in
> general, not how people practice it. People practice their religions
> according to their ability and understanding, which has the capacity to
> evolve as they do..
> >
> > From: authfriend authfriend@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> >
> > Â
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , "sharelong60" sharelong60@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well
> said, Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the
> suppression of homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that
> transitional incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life-
> time. In other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed,
> they become stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose
> of religion is to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: authfriend
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>   > > Sent: Friday, August 23,
> 2013 6:24 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
> years
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>  , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the oppos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[Michael Jackson]

 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife//info



 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for replying to my question. I made reply to 
> several of you. Since I was using the actual FFL group and not
> paying too close attention I didn't realize the wonderful new
> format for yahoo groups that Yahoo has graciously provided us
> all with without our even asking I was replying either to no
> one or to the individual posters.

What??

Anybody know what he's talking about? Alex?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for replying to my question. I made reply to 
> > several of you. Since I was using the actual FFL group and not
> > paying too close attention I didn't realize the wonderful new
> > format for yahoo groups that Yahoo has graciously provided us
> > all with without our even asking I was replying either to no
> > one or to the individual posters.
> 
> What??
> 
> Anybody know what he's talking about? Alex?
>

I haven't a clue. For me, the FFL web interface is the same as it's always been.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Richard J. Williams]

Share Long:
> Well I felt pretty free when I wrote welcome back. GF!
> 
Maybe so.

But, if you had free will you could go back into the 
past and cause change at will. If you had free will 
you could have seen into the future and read my post 
before I sent it, and willed me to post something 
different. But, the past is the past, and you cannot
go back and change nary a line. A body in motion tends
to stay in motion. That is, unless I willed you to
respond to my post. Go figure.
 

> > Welcome back, Richard!
> >
> If we had free will we could see into the future, or
> go back in the past and change things. If we had 
> free will we could ignore social morals and not even
> consider a moral reciprocity. We could forget about
> responsibility. We could do what we want, when we
> want, and that would be the whole of the law.
> 
> > > To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to 
> > > the chase...
> > >
> > If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over 
> > tall buildings; you would have mind control and be 
> > able to predict the future, so you could avoid the 
> > dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.
> > 
> > Free will would be like being a God - able to cause 
> > change at will.
> > 
> > Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. 
> > 
> > We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body 
> > in motion tends to stay in motion, etc.
> > 
> > That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new,
> > transcendental force into the universe. 
> > 
> > Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest.
> > 
> > LoL!
> > 
> > > IF you believe
> > > that Nature runs things
> > > and you don't really
> > > have any Free Will
> > > with which to "decide"
> > > what to do
> > > 
> > > DID you ever
> > > have a choice about
> > > whether to meditate
> > > or not?
> > > 
> > > :-)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many
> > > > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand
> > > > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion
> > > > on the subject of free will in the past...
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a
> > > > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all.
> > > >
> > > > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing
> > > along
> > > > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would
> > > > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any
> > > > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?"
> > > >
> > > > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> > > > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> > > > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> > > > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> > > > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> > > > or whatever you choose to call it.
> > > >
> > > > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has
> > > > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because
> > > > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by
> > > > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been
> > > > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment?
> > > >
> > > > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker,
> > > > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free
> > > > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It
> > > > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met;
> > > > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight-
> > > > enment...not the teachers, and not you.
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ravi Chivukula]

Dr. Dumbass is acting like a CC.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> I appreciate the thought, but I doubt I'd survive the necessary
vetting;
> like many, I also lack Raja Ravi's charisma and pithy turn of phrase.
> The campaign is still optimistic.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucJAkzCNq8
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > I've always been partial to Voldemort taking the position of
> moderator, so what can I say? Voldemort has been on here a hell of a
lot
> longer than Ravi has. Of course, if you stick around, consistently
this
> time, I would also support employing you in that regard. Please let us
> know your future plans, BP.
> >
> > Better let Ravi know the bad news, though, sooner, rather than
later.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > Doc, I believe I've been remiss in not thanking you for sharing
your
> > > music with the group; speaking for myself, I believe any creative
> act is
> > > fundamentally heroic, and I for one appreciate your generosity in
> > > sharing your compositions with us. On a different topic, would you
> > > consider supporting the candidacy of Sri Raja Raviji for FFL
> moderator;
> > > your thoughtful consideration is more than appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EffPnse4WQs
>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > >
> > > > Group Hug, Bob!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > Obba,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wilma is a winner.
> > > > >
> > > > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the
*enlightened*
> > > vote is
> > > > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> > > concerned
> > > > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> > > college,
> > > > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the
> polls
> > > > > close?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save
> everything), I
> > > > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace
as
> > > talking
> > > > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea
of
> the
> > > beat
> > > > > the campaign is looking for?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's
campaign.
> > > > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
>
> > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
> > > singer)
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk
>
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is
this
> song
> > > > > style
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ
>
> > >
> > > > > > "call me darling, you
> > > > > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll
cover
> the
> > > > > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard
until
> > > then,
> > > > > > okay?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very
high"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the
> knowledge,
> > > > > > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > > > > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race
of
> our
> > > > > > lives,
> > > > > > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > > > > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and
> Richard
> > > tire
> > > > > > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > > > > > Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the
> > > Pacific
> > > > > > > Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking
> > > > > > > up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after
> Richard
> > > has
> > > > > > tires
> > > > > > > him out, I think we can buy Buck's support
> > > > > > > with a promise to make all colors illegal---except gold.
In
> the
> > > > > > > meantime, we need to launch our Share
> > > > > > > strategy and begin posting half baked poems and syrupy
sweet
> > > photos
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > > the following. For the sympathy vote, I think writing a
> > > > > > > C&W hurtin song would be an excellent start; maybe with a
> title
> > > > > like:
> > > > > > > "My Baby Dumped Me For The Infinite".
> > > > > > > And remember NO MORE OPINIONS ON ANYTHING, and if any
smart
> > > asses
> > > > > ask
> > > > > > > you what you're for, just say:
> > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[bobpriced]

I heard:

Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
Protestantism expresses 25%
Islam expresses 14%
Darwinism expresses 9%%
GAAP (Generally accepted accounting principles) expresses 5%


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Share Long  wrote:
>
> But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I
heard something along the lines of:
> Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
> Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
> Protestantism expresses 25%
> Had you ever heard these figures?
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
years
>
>
>
> Â
> Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning
anyone about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation
which may or may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that
religions still have that power but I also believe he knew that religion
is pure and our ability to understand the intent is according to our own
individual capacity or level of evolution.
>
> From: Share Long sharelong60@...
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
years
>
> Â
> Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's
a hot topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at
the very least, condemning people if their sexuality is different than
the supposed norm.
>
> I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have
any power to protect the evolution of souls.
>
> From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 " FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
years
>
> Â
> I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was
that I believe it's open season on harassing people about their
sexuality, then she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you
thought. My comment was in regard to the role of religion in
general, not how people practice it. People practice their religions
according to their ability and understanding, which has the capacity to
evolve as they do..
>
> From: authfriend authfriend@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
years
>
> Â
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 , "sharelong60" sharelong60@
wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well
said, Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the
suppression of homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that
transitional incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life-
time. In other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed,
they become stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose
of religion is to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
  > > Sent: Friday, August 23,
2013 6:24 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35
years
> > >
> > > ÂÂ
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 , Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it.
The
> > > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third
> > > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super
> > > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > > b

[FairfieldLife] Shale is the new Black

[Richard J. Williams]

"They've got jobs for anybody who can run a back hoe, a bulldozer, a
bobcat, a maintainer, any type of equipment, all types of I.T. jobs."
- Dave Walbert, owner of Pioneer Barbecue

My prediction: Mexico will become a part of Texas.

YNN: Austin/Round Rock/San Marcos
Saturday, August 24, 2013
http://tinyurl.com/mu6afz3 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Share Long]

I think what Charlie Lutes said about previous lives could be applied to anyone 
with whom there is a difference between their physical gender and their 
psychological gender. 





 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 7:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> I think it was Mike Dixon who had what I think is a plausible 
> explanation from Charlie Lutes: that a person is carrying non 
> physical gender qualities over from a previous life time.

No, that had to do with homosexuals, not transgender
individuals. Didn't make any sense for homosexuals,
though. Charlie assumed homosexual men had feminine
characteristics and homosexual women had masculine
characteristics, an old stereotype that doesn't apply
anywhere near across the board. And most homosexuals
have no desire to be the opposite sex.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
> > >
> > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:>
> > > Manning says she's always been a woman in her mind/psyche.
> > > 
> > > This Manning "chap" becomes more embarrassing by the day.
> > > From the Wiki article on the US Military and gays I read:
> > > While restrictions on sexual orientation have been lifted, restrictions
> > > on gender identity remain in place due to Department of Defense
> > > regulations; transgender Americans thus continue to be barred from
> > > military service.
> > >
> > > Sorry Chelsea - you're in the wrong line of work.
> > 
> > Not any more. She's been dishonorably discharged.
> > 
> > She said she joined the Army to try to overcome her sense
> > that she was a woman. Now that the trial is over and she's
> > out of the Army, she's decided to go for it.
> > 
> > FWIW, research is increasingly showing that gender dysphoria
> > has biological causes. It's beginning to look as though a
> > man, say, doesn't want to be a woman because he's screwed
> > up, but is screwed up because he wants to be a woman.
> > 
> > It's hard to imagine what it must be like to feel you're in
> > the wrong kind of body and to know that everybody thinks
> > you're someone you know you aren't--and for this to be the
> > case from the time you were a very little kid. That would
> > mess with anyone's mind.
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[merudanda]

..hope you do not mind my snipping [;)]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
snip,
I sprung  a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) snip snip

  [http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/66584924_84dce9a922.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for replying to my question. I made reply to 
> several of you. Since I was using the actual FFL group and not
> paying too close attention I didn't realize the wonderful new
> format for yahoo groups that Yahoo has graciously provided us
> all with without our even asking I was replying either to no
> one or to the individual posters.

What??

Anybody know what he's talking about? Alex?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Share Long]

Richard, what resonates as true for me is Maharishi saying that there's 100% 
determinism and 100% free will. Now if that doesn't deserve a *Go figure* I 
don't know what does!

He also said that no matter our karma, the present moment is the most powerful. 
So for me, this tips the scale slightly in the direction of free will.




 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
 


  
Share Long:
> Welcome back, Richard!
>
If we had free will we could see into the future, or
go back in the past and change things. If we had 
free will we could ignore social morals and not even
consider a moral reciprocity. We could forget about
responsibility. We could do what we want, when we
want, and that would be the whole of the law.







 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hebrew vs. Sanskrit?

[Duveyoung]

Card, I sure hope you know about this project:

http://www.meru.org/

I met the guy, Stan Tenen, and he's convincing.  

He says that the projected 2D shadow of the ram's horn (the shofar) can become 
shaped like the Hebrew letters if you twist it this way and that, AND get this, 
he told me there's a formula/algorithm that would turn the horn incrementally 
such that the first chapter of Genesis is produced.  Don't know how much to 
believe, but I'm betting you'd find this stuff very satisfying.   

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> 
> Card, sounds like you're saying that because it has more consonants, Sanskrit 
> is maybe more analytical. I'll add: maybe more left brain dominant? though 
> that doesn't sound right about Sanskrit. Are you saying that Hebrew is more 
> right brain, more spatial, softer because of having less consonants?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks

[Richard J. Williams]

No, thank you.

> > "bogumils are derived from Paulicans, Paulicans 
> > from Manicheans, Manicheans from Gnostics, thus 
> > Cathars are derived from Gnostics".
> > 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/171314

So, you finally got around to reading my post about 
the Bogomils. Better late than never I guess. LoL!


mjackson74:
> Thanks to everyone for replying to my question. I made reply to several of 
> you. Since I was using the actual FFL group and not paying too close 
> attention I didn't realize the wonderful new format for yahoo groups that 
> Yahoo has graciously provided us all with without our even asking I was 
> replying either to no one or to the individual posters.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Share Long]

But Mike I'm not sure that Maharishi thought religion was so pure. I heard 
something along the lines of:
Judaism expresses 75% of natural law
Catholicism expresses 50% of natural law
Protestantism expresses 25%
Had you ever heard these figures?





 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 


  
Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning anyone 
about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation which may or 
may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that religions still have that 
power but I also believe he knew that religion is pure and our ability to 
understand the intent is according to our own individual capacity or level of 
evolution.

From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 
  
Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's a hot 
topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at the very least, 
condemning people if their sexuality is different than the supposed norm.

I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have any power 
to protect the evolution of souls.

From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 
  
I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then she's 
all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was in 
regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. People 
practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, which 
has the capacity to evolve as they do..

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 
  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
wrote: 
> 
> Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by 
> "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who 
> might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any 
> enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self 
> against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life 
> take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well said, 
> Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
>  wrote: 
> > 
> > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > to protect the evolution of the soul. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> >  From: authfriend  
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 
> > 2013 6:24 PM 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years 
> >   
> >    
> >  
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember 
> > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other 
> > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite 
> > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The 
> > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the 
> > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous 
> > > birth which was exaggerated. 
> > 
> > When you first posted this, you presented it as an 
> > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine" 
> > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about 
> > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted 
> > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight. 
> > 
> > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with 
> > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but 
> > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want 
> > to change their gender. 
> > 
> > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do 
> > unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be expressed. 
> > Who knows why someone feels 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Share Long]

Well I felt pretty free when I wrote welcome back. GF!





 From: Richard J. Williams 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
 


  
Share Long:
> Welcome back, Richard!
>
If we had free will we could see into the future, or
go back in the past and change things. If we had 
free will we could ignore social morals and not even
consider a moral reciprocity. We could forget about
responsibility. We could do what we want, when we
want, and that would be the whole of the law.

> > To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to 
> > the chase...
> >
> If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over 
> tall buildings; you would have mind control and be 
> able to predict the future, so you could avoid the 
> dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.
> 
> Free will would be like being a God - able to cause 
> change at will.
> 
> Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. 
> 
> We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body 
> in motion tends to stay in motion, etc.
> 
> That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new,
> transcendental force into the universe. 
> 
> Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest.
> 
> LoL!
> 
> > IF you believe
> > that Nature runs things
> > and you don't really
> > have any Free Will
> > with which to "decide"
> > what to do
> > 
> > DID you ever
> > have a choice about
> > whether to meditate
> > or not?
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many
> > > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level.
> > >
> > > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand
> > > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion
> > > on the subject of free will in the past...
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a
> > > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all.
> > >
> > > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing
> > along
> > > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would
> > > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any
> > > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?"
> > >
> > > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> > > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> > > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> > > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> > > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> > > or whatever you choose to call it.
> > >
> > > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has
> > > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because
> > > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by
> > > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been
> > > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment?
> > >
> > > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker,
> > > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free
> > > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It
> > > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met;
> > > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight-
> > > enment...not the teachers, and not you.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hebrew vs. Sanskrit?

[sharelong60]

Card, sounds like you're saying that because it has more consonants, Sanskrit 
is maybe more analytical. I'll add: maybe more left brain dominant? though that 
doesn't sound right about Sanskrit. Are you saying that Hebrew is more right 
brain, more spatial, softer because of having less consonants?

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Richard J. Williams]

Share Long:
> Welcome back, Richard!
>
If we had free will we could see into the future, or
go back in the past and change things. If we had 
free will we could ignore social morals and not even
consider a moral reciprocity. We could forget about
responsibility. We could do what we want, when we
want, and that would be the whole of the law.
 
> > To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to 
> > the chase...
> >
> If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over 
> tall buildings; you would have mind control and be 
> able to predict the future, so you could avoid the 
> dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.
> 
> Free will would be like being a God - able to cause 
> change at will.
> 
> Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. 
> 
> We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body 
> in motion tends to stay in motion, etc.
> 
> That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new,
> transcendental force into the universe. 
> 
> Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest.
> 
> LoL!
> 
> > IF you believe
> > that Nature runs things
> > and you don't really
> > have any Free Will
> > with which to "decide"
> > what to do
> > 
> > DID you ever
> > have a choice about
> > whether to meditate
> > or not?
> > 
> > :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many
> > > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level.
> > >
> > > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand
> > > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion
> > > on the subject of free will in the past...
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a
> > > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all.
> > >
> > > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing
> > along
> > > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would
> > > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any
> > > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?"
> > >
> > > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> > > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> > > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> > > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> > > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> > > or whatever you choose to call it.
> > >
> > > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has
> > > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because
> > > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by
> > > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been
> > > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment?
> > >
> > > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker,
> > > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free
> > > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It
> > > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met;
> > > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight-
> > > enment...not the teachers, and not you.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Thanks

[Michael Jackson]

Thanks to everyone for replying to my question. I made reply to several of you. 
Since I was using the actual FFL group and not paying too close attention I 
didn't realize the wonderful new format for yahoo groups that Yahoo has 
graciously provided us all with without our even asking I was replying either 
to no one or to the individual posters. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[doctordumbass]

No doubt.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality
> that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed
> embarrassment.
> 
> My guess is he has a date.
> 
> I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would
> be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him,
> he will be back here, posting again.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is
> > > > Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and
> > > > rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it.
> > > > So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking
> > > > about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes
> > > > place to start.:-)
> > >
> > > DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he
> > > wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he
> > > includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck,
> > > who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His
> > > implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach.
> > >
> > > Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds
> > > your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally
> > > to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I
> > > don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion
> > > (humorously, I might add).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get
> upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to
> discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly
> from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I
> thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective,
> with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: "doctordumbass@"
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10
> UTC
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people
> discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with
> us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can
> discuss TM, CC, GC,
> > > > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take
> Dr. Dumbass
> > > > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi.
> Plus with the
> > > > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140
> characters or less.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that
> is FFL before
> > > > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and
> closes the pages
> > > > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > -Buck
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[doctordumbass]

Yes, excellent! Seriously, after watching that video, with you as point man for 
the campaign, I'm having to share your optimism wrt Ravi. Perhaps get with 
Imelda and see if some cut-ins could be done with said candidate, say from his, 
"singing the bhajans" (2012?) series? This might go a lot further than FFL. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> I appreciate the thought, but I doubt I'd survive the necessary vetting;
> like many, I also lack Raja Ravi's charisma and pithy turn of phrase.
> The campaign is still optimistic.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucJAkzCNq8
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I've always been partial to Voldemort taking the position of
> moderator, so what can I say? Voldemort has been on here a hell of a lot
> longer than Ravi has. Of course, if you stick around, consistently this
> time, I would also support employing you in that regard. Please let us
> know your future plans, BP.
> >
> > Better let Ravi know the bad news, though, sooner, rather than later.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Doc, I believe I've been remiss in not thanking you for sharing your
> > > music with the group; speaking for myself, I believe any creative
> act is
> > > fundamentally heroic, and I for one appreciate your generosity in
> > > sharing your compositions with us. On a different topic, would you
> > > consider supporting the candidacy of Sri Raja Raviji for FFL
> moderator;
> > > your thoughtful consideration is more than appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EffPnse4WQs
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > >
> > > > Group Hug, Bob!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > Obba,
> > > > >
> > > > > Wilma is a winner.
> > > > >
> > > > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
> > > vote is
> > > > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> > > concerned
> > > > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> > > college,
> > > > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the
> polls
> > > > > close?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save
> everything), I
> > > > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> > > talking
> > > > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of
> the
> > > beat
> > > > > the campaign is looking for?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
> 
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > > > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
> 
> > >
> > > > > > or
> > > > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
> > > singer)
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk
> 
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this
> song
> > > > > style
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ
> 
> > >
> > > > > > "call me darling, you
> > > > > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover
> the
> > > > > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until
> > > then,
> > > > > > okay?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very high"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the
> knowledge,
> > > > > > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > > > > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of
> our
> > > > > > lives,
> > > > > > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > > > > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and
> Richard
> > > tire
> > > > > > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > > > > > Obba will deliver the Nort

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[bobpriced]

In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality
that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed
embarrassment.

My guess is he has a date.

I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would
be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him,
he will be back here, posting again.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "authfriend" authfriend@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is
> > > Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and
> > > rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it.
> > > So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking
> > > about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes
> > > place to start.:-)
> >
> > DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he
> > wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he
> > includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck,
> > who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His
> > implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach.
> >
> > Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds
> > your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally
> > to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I
> > don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion
> > (humorously, I might add).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get
upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to
discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly
from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I
thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective,
with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: "doctordumbass@"
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10
UTC
> > > >
> > > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people
discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with
us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can
discuss TM, CC, GC,
> > > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take
Dr. Dumbass
> > > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi.
Plus with the
> > > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140
characters or less.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that
is FFL before
> > > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and
closes the pages
> > > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > -Buck
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[doctordumbass]

I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a refrigerator 
carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your property, preferably hidden 
by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels and other varmints, for awhile. The 
time will go by in a flash.

Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there, perhaps 
coincident with Rory's visit!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!! On a related 
> > topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a person inhabits 
> > someone else's property or horse farm continuously for seven years, they 
> > can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> 
> Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house, cooks me 
> meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he can stay for 
> as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place. So, I guess the 
> answer to that is "yes".
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting there by 
> > > > ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite places on 
> > > > earth.
> > > 
> > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS that
> > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme has
> > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that causes
> > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them such
> > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has taken over
> > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks "They, their," as 
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is bad.) 
> > > > > > > > conclusion:
> > > > > > > > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this situation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if he divests himself of his paranoid delusions then who is he
> > > > > > going to have as imaginary friends and enemies? He'll be so LONELY.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, and he can find one of these type of places:
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   when a FFL Group Reunion 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19k-YtwXTg
> > > > > >    comes, along,
> > > > > > we will find out the real reasons he behaves this way. :)   MJ, you 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > that vacation home ready yet?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey, I'm ready for all of you. Victoria is big enough for ALL of you. 
> > > > > When do you want to come?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[bobpriced]

I appreciate the thought, but I doubt I'd survive the necessary vetting;
like many, I also lack Raja Ravi's charisma and pithy turn of phrase.
The campaign is still optimistic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZucJAkzCNq8






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I've always been partial to Voldemort taking the position of
moderator, so what can I say? Voldemort has been on here a hell of a lot
longer than Ravi has. Of course, if you stick around, consistently this
time, I would also support employing you in that regard. Please let us
know your future plans, BP.
>
> Better let Ravi know the bad news, though, sooner, rather than later.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> >
> > Doc, I believe I've been remiss in not thanking you for sharing your
> > music with the group; speaking for myself, I believe any creative
act is
> > fundamentally heroic, and I for one appreciate your generosity in
> > sharing your compositions with us. On a different topic, would you
> > consider supporting the candidacy of Sri Raja Raviji for FFL
moderator;
> > your thoughtful consideration is more than appreciated.
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EffPnse4WQs

> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > >
> > > Group Hug, Bob!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > > >
> > > > Obba,
> > > >
> > > > Wilma is a winner.
> > > >
> > > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
> > vote is
> > > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> > concerned
> > > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> > college,
> > > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the
polls
> > > > close?
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save
everything), I
> > > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> > talking
> > > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > > >
> > > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > > >
> > > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of
the
> > beat
> > > > the campaign is looking for?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo

> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > > > >
> > > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s

> >
> > > > > or
> > > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
> > singer)
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk

> >
> > > > >
> > > > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this
song
> > > > style
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ

> >
> > > > > "call me darling, you
> > > > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover
the
> > > > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until
> > then,
> > > > > okay?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very high"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the
knowledge,
> > > > > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > > > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of
our
> > > > > lives,
> > > > > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > > > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and
Richard
> > tire
> > > > > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > > > > Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the
> > Pacific
> > > > > > Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking
> > > > > > up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after
Richard
> > has
> > > > > tires
> > > > > > him out, I think we can buy Buck's support
> > > > > > with a promise to make all colors illegal---except gold. In
the
> > > > > > meantime, we need to launch our Share
> > > > > > strategy and begin posting half baked poems and syrupy sweet
> > photos
> > > > > like
> > > > > > the following. For the sympathy vote, I think writing a
> > > > > > C&W hurtin song would be an excellent start; maybe with a
title
> > > > like:
> > > > > > "My B

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
> IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're 
> just flowing along with Nature...
>
Maybe because the founder of the enlightenment tradition 
in India did not teach 'free will', but taught Causation 
- everything happens for a reason and there are no 
chance events. 

The question is, are we free or are we bound? If free, 
then there's no reason for a yoga; if bound, by what 
means can we free ourselves?

Unless you somehow have the ability to mentally alter the 
laws of cause and effect. Not any easy task. 

If you had free will, you could command your crap to flow 
upstream instead of down stream.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[doctordumbass]

I liked it too, and yes, very difficult to get to the bottom of something like 
that with fewer posts.

Yeah, I really enjoy hearing something that has the ring of truth, but is still 
far enough away, I can't quite make out what substantiates it. However, if you 
simply think about the language of UC, the duality becomes clearer, "*I* am one 
with you", "Everything is seen, in terms of *myself*", etc. A very, very subtle 
duality.
Anyway, probably a topic for Batgap, if you like. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> Doc, I can't comment on Ravi but I really enjoyed our back and forth about 
> SOC, something we couldn't have done or probably wouldn't have done with 
> limited posting. Anyway, you still have me thinking about that whole idea of 
> UC having duality and ego. Something about it resonates as true but I'm not 
> 100% grokking it yet. Still percolating so to speak.
> 
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is 
> > a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual 
> > heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want 
> > people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be 
> > the best place to start.:-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For 
> > > me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw 
> > > ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM 
> > > perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy 
> > > reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, 
> > > like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people 
> > > discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with 
> > > us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, 
> > > > GC,
> > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass
> > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with 
> > > > the
> > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or 
> > > > less.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL 
> > > > > before
> > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the 
> > > > > pages
> > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > -Buck
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fairfield Life Post Counter
> > > > > > ===
> > > > > > Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00
> > > > > > End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00
> > > > > > 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 109 doctordumbass
> > > > > > 106 authfriend
> > > > > > 91 obbajeeba
> > > > > > 86 Share Long
> > > > > > 59 Seraphita
> > > > > > 50 Ann
> > > > > > 35 iranitea
> > > > > > 31 Alex Stanley
> > > > > > 30 Ravi Chivukula
> > > > > > 28 RoryGoff
> > > > > > 27 Bhairitu
> > > > > > 25 emilymae.reyn
> > > > > > 19 Mike Dixon
> > > > > > 18 turquoiseb
> > > > > > 18 Michael Jackson
> > > > > > 17 merudanda
> > > > > > 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius
> > > > > > 16 Bob Price
> > > > > > 14 Jason
> > > > > > 13 sharelong60
> > > > > > 13 emptybill
> > > > > > 10 sparaig
> > > > > > 10 salyavin808
> > > > > > 10 card
> > > > > > 9 Emily Reyn
> > > > > > 7 bobpriced
> > > > > > 7 azgrey
> > > > > > 6 nablusoss1008
> > > > > > 6 John
> > > > > > 5 Rick Archer
> > > > > > 4 raunchydog
> > > > > > 4 Duveyoung
> > > > > > 4 Buck
> > > > > > 3 feste37
> > > > > > 3 cardemaister
> > > > > > 3 Susan
> > > > > > 2 seventhray27
> > > > > > 2 Dick Mays
> > > > > > 1 wleed3
> > > > > > 1 wgm4u
> > > > > > 1 srijau
> > > > > > 1 WLeed3
> > > > > > 1 Richard J. Williams
> > > > > > 1 PaliGap
> > > > > > Posters: 44
> > > > > > Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times
> > > > > > =
> > > > > > Daylight Saving Time (Summer):
> > > > > > US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM
> > > > > > Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM
> > > > > > Standard Time (Winter):
> > > > > > US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM 

[FairfieldLife] Laughing all the way to the bank!

[Richard J. Williams]

Duck Dynasty - Boys Will Be Boys

http://youtu.be/S3b04PBTv_0 

  

"The fourth-season premiere of A&E's "Duck Dynasty" quacked with 11.8
million viewers Wednesday, a new record for a non-fiction cable
series..."

USA Today:
http://tinyurl.com/mj8advy 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Share Long]

Welcome back, Richard!





 From: richardatrwilliamsdotus 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
 


  


turquoiseb:
> To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to 
> the chase...
>
If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over 
tall buildings; you would have mind control and be 
able to predict the future, so you could avoid the 
dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.

Free will would be like being a God - able to cause 
change at will.

Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. 

We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body 
in motion tends to stay in motion, etc.

That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new,
transcendental force into the universe. 

Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest.

LoL!

> IF you believe
> that Nature runs things
> and you don't really
> have any Free Will
> with which to "decide"
> what to do
> 
> DID you ever
> have a choice about
> whether to meditate
> or not?
> 
> :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many
> > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level.
> >
> > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand
> > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion
> > on the subject of free will in the past...
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a
> > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all.
> >
> > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing
> along
> > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would
> > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any
> > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?"
> >
> > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> > or whatever you choose to call it.
> >
> > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has
> > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because
> > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by
> > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been
> > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment?
> >
> > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker,
> > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free
> > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It
> > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met;
> > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight-
> > enment...not the teachers, and not you.
> >
> > :-)
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[doctordumbass]

I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I 
were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back 
here, posting again. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is
> > Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and
> > rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it.
> > So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking
> > about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes
> > place to start.:-)
> 
> DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he
> wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he
> includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck,
> who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His
> implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach.
> 
> Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds
> your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally
> to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I
> don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion
> (humorously, I might add).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For 
> > > me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw 
> > > ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM 
> > > perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy 
> > > reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, 
> > > like in Xeno's writing for example.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
> > >  
> > > I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people 
> > > discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with 
> > > us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug?
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, 
> > > > GC,
> > > > UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass
> > > > and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with 
> > > > the
> > > > talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or 
> > > > less.
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > **
> > > > > Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL 
> > > > > before
> > > > > Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the 
> > > > > pages
> > > > > of the group entirely.
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > -Buck
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[bobpriced]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
>
>
> mjackson74:
> > So how did any of you process these allegations that
> > Maharishi was sexually active?
> >
> My feeling is that MMY may have received a back rub that
> might have turned in to a groin massage a few times.
>
> So, how is a little guy like that doing much humping on
> big girls? A guy that small could get thrown across the
> room if he tried to do much on top of someone of normal
> size.
>
> I just can't picture MMY getting somebody to lay down on
> their back on top of that calf skin of his, underneath a
> painting of SBS, up on the roof in 100 degrees, and with
> Jerry trying to sleep in the living room.
>
> You think they climbed in through the bathroom window?


***No, that was Krishnamurti.

>
> Go figure.
>
> I mean, this even sounds absurd considering that MMY
> didn't even have a bathroom, a bed or even running water
> at the time.
>
> Can you imagine somebody trying to sneak past Jemima
> Pitman in the middle of the night, when you could hear a
> pin drop at the ashram, and with Ananda Kishore guarding
> the front door? It's just outrageous!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[doctordumbass]

I've always been partial to Voldemort taking the position of moderator, so what 
can I say? Voldemort has been on here a hell of a lot longer than Ravi has. Of 
course, if you stick around, consistently this time, I would also support 
employing you in that regard. Please let us know your future plans, BP. 

Better let Ravi know the bad news, though, sooner, rather than later. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> Doc, I believe I've been remiss in not thanking you for sharing your
> music with the group; speaking for myself, I believe any creative act is
> fundamentally heroic, and I for one appreciate your generosity in
> sharing your compositions with us. On a different topic, would you
> consider supporting the candidacy of Sri Raja Raviji for FFL moderator;
> your thoughtful consideration is more than appreciated.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EffPnse4WQs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Group Hug, Bob!
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Obba,
> > >
> > > Wilma is a winner.
> > >
> > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
> vote is
> > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> concerned
> > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> college,
> > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the polls
> > > close?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything), I
> > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> talking
> > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > >
> > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > >
> > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of the
> beat
> > > the campaign is looking for?
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo
> 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > >
> > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s
> 
> > > > or
> > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
> singer)
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk
> 
> > > >
> > > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this song
> > > style
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ
> 
> > > > "call me darling, you
> > > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > > >
> > > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover the
> > > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until
> then,
> > > > okay?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is this about "Raja Ravi's standards are very high"?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ***I happen to believe you're the only one with the knowledge,
> > > > > consciousness, and chutzpah
> > > > > to moderate this board, but its shaping up to be the race of our
> > > > lives,
> > > > > and, as your campaign manager,
> > > > > I think it vital you don't peak too early; let Buck and Richard
> tire
> > > > > themselves out before we make our move;
> > > > > Obba will deliver the North East, and we have Emily in the
> Pacific
> > > > > Northwest; we'll have to do some sucking
> > > > > up and trade some favors, but leave that to me; after Richard
> has
> > > > tires
> > > > > him out, I think we can buy Buck's support
> > > > > with a promise to make all colors illegal---except gold. In the
> > > > > meantime, we need to launch our Share
> > > > > strategy and begin posting half baked poems and syrupy sweet
> photos
> > > > like
> > > > > the following. For the sympathy vote, I think writing a
> > > > > C&W hurtin song would be an excellent start; maybe with a title
> > > like:
> > > > > "My Baby Dumped Me For The Infinite".
> > > > > And remember NO MORE OPINIONS ON ANYTHING, and if any smart
> asses
> > > ask
> > > > > you what you're for, just say:
> > > > > "Change we can believe in" and drones.  More soon---its in the
> bag
> > > my
> > > > > friend.-BP
> > > > >
> > > > >   I can't be as
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[doctordumbass]

I don't care how he lived his life, as he never told me how to live mine. As 
for your friend, maybe he needs more sex, as focused on it as he is. I bet 
after a wild romp, he won't care about his "burning question" so much. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> OK, in keeping with Buck's theory of FFL posts being in some way about FFL, I 
> have an offering, based on the tenuous fact of past habitation in FF and at 
> the mighty Maharishi U.
> 
> I have a friend who is a dedicated TM meditator (sidha actually) whom I met 
> at my local TM center here almost 40 years ago. We worked together on staff 
> for the team of governors who taught the sidhis here in both North and South 
> Carolina yea those many years ago. 
> 
> 
> This friend is not only a devout TM meditator, but a devout Christian with 
> strong Christian values. Over the course of these past few years he has been 
> wrestling with the idea of Maharishi having allegedly had sex and lying about 
> it to both cover and continue the behavior. 
> 
> 
> For this friend, these allegations are sort of a lynchpin to his whole 
> feeling about TM. He has been very surprised to talk with sidhas and 
> especially governors who were around Maharishi and have become convinced he 
> was sexually active, but don't seem to care, feeling that TM itself and 
> whatever they personally experienced was more important than his being able 
> to lie and sexually manipulate women.
> 
> For myself, the sexual content of M's life is just symptomatic of a systemic 
> problem - he wanted to have certain things (sex, money, to be looked on as 
> the savior of the world) and to get those things he had to create a persona 
> of a spiritual leader (easy to do since he had so much charisma) and lie to 
> get what he wanted, with a desire to see people improve them selves and the 
> world as a background. 
> 
> 
> Personally, I believe that that background got forgotten about and pushed 
> really into the background more and more as the years went by and his self 
> aggrandizing hedonistic behavior took over more and more.
> 
> 
> My friend on the other hand still has the idea that Maharishi was 
> enlightened, and that since the definition M gave of enlightenment in many 
> places such as the commentary on the Bhagavad Gita is very specific as to the 
> enlightened person upholding all the laws of nature for everyone, never does 
> anything that is not life supporting for anyone etc, that it would have been 
> impossible for Maharishi to sneak around doing things that were unethical and 
> lie about it.
> 
> So for him, the sexual allegations are paramount, if he decides that M was 
> sexually active and lying about it, it calls into question the whole teaching 
> because it means M was not enlightened and therefore could not have known by 
> experience what enlightenment is.
> 
> My question to everyone who cares to answer is how do you or did you deal 
> with the idea of Maharishi having sex and lying about it? Do you think he 
> did, and it doesn't matter or what?
> 
> For me, I do believe it and it was just part of what became an increasingly 
> deceptive lifestyle he led, and doesn't have the huge implications on the 
> teaching of enlightenment that it does for my friend. I am of the opinion 
> that one can have theoretical knowledge of the idea of and process of 
> enlightenment and even teach about it, but not experience it oneself. 
> 
> 
> So how did any of you process these allegations that Maharishi was sexually 
> active?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[RoryGoff]

Wow, Ann; that would be great! And please feel free to do as you please here -- 
raining pamphlets or knocking on Dome doors or whatever -- I am told the men's 
Dome could use a new roof if you feel so inclined! :-)

Yes, the way we play Bananagrams is exactly like Scrabble, only with no turns, 
no scoring, and no board, and a fluid engagement, with people coming to put in 
a word or two, or to stay all afternoon, or somewhere in between. It's more 
like constructing a community crossword puzzle -- the only goals are to make it 
as dense as possible, and to use up all the letters before the cafe closes.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you so much, Ann; we may take you up on that on our next trip 
> > NW...and please feel free to come visit us here in Fairfield, as well! 
> 
> Funnily enough, I have actually been considering that. I actually have quite 
> a few friends who live there (!) and it would be a hoot (as the Canadians 
> say) to stop by. I am not to be trusted however and you might find me 
> distributing leaflets (although probably not from a helicopter) or banging on 
> the doors of the dome during program just for fun so I would have to be 
> closely monitored. However, I am good company and always up for an adventure 
> or a game of bananagrams (hopefully it is a bit like Scrabbles). In the 
> meantime we have lots of room at the 'inn' as long as you don't mind dogs and 
> horses.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting there by 
> > > > ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite places on 
> > > > earth.
> > > 
> > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief they all share IS that
> > > > > > > > > > causes them to color their own perceptions and
> > > > > > > > > > shape them such that the "Barry Is Bad" meme has
> > > > > > > > > > basically taken over their lives.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One wonders what the belief of Barry's IS that causes
> > > > > > > > > him to color his own perceptions and shape them such
> > > > > > > > > that the ego-fantasy that "Barry Is Bad" has taken over
> > > > > > > > > our lives has taken over his life.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (Does he realize we've been making fun of him?)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >His statement can only draw one (He thinks "They, their," as 
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > entity of all those he imagines who think he is bad.) 
> > > > > > > > conclusion:
> > > > > > > > http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/paranoia
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He might want to seek some medical help about this situation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But if he divests himself of his paranoid delusions then who is he
> > > > > > going to have as imaginary friends and enemies? He'll be so LONELY.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, and he can find one of these type of places:
> > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_am_lonely_will_anyone_speak_to_me
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   when a FFL Group Reunion 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O19k-YtwXTg
> > > > > >    comes, along,
> > > > > > we will find out the real reasons he behaves this way. :)   MJ, you 
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > that vacation home ready yet?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey, I'm ready for all of you. Victoria is big enough for ALL of you. 
> > > > > When do you want to come?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[cardemaister]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[bobpriced]

Correction:

I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
"Hidden Imam".


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> Dear Obba,
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > >
> > Dear Mr. Price,
> >   Bob,
> >   and wife,
> > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
>
> I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> "Hidden Iman".
>
> >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
>
> I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its belly
> full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY

>
>
>
> >
> > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in the
> > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> light
> > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> There
> > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> >
> > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> >
> > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> >
> > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
>
> I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would justify
> a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
Buck
> won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a cheap
> shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Gold_Souk

>
>
> >
> > Looking forward for the tickets. I need to get out of here, cabin
> fever
> > brought about by the ketu subdasha. Lucky all this is coinciding
with
> > the end of the antardasha in another week. Whew.
>
> All I can say about this paragraph is tank God for Google; I reckon
you
> only fly first?
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, Wilma passed almost 10 years ago, and she had no
> > offspring (Lesbian), but I know her nephew who plays guitar and
works
> as
> > a magician (yes, a Magician)in LA, but the good news, music runs in
> his
> > family blood, something a lot of people forget certain hereditary
> traits
> > allow for this dharmic curse(kind of like ignoring Maharishi's
> relatives
> > is probably not a good idea, even if they came out of the woodwork,
> > dhamra man, Dharma.).  (and... Business is slack in Hollywood for
the
> > meek, right now, so he, him, Wilma's nephew, might be available. You
> can
> > catch him at the Castle?)
> > If that doesn't work out, I don't know who handles Janis's rights.
> >   You might want to think of Bette Midler, she may be up to it.
> >   Remember the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6okRuOLc8

>
>
> Alternatively, I'm wondering if you (I'm still on probation)  could
> speak with the MGC and find
> out if they would consider recording a music video like this for the
> campaign (including the wardrobe and
> choreography):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrfY7RNaBjw

>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > >
> > > Obba,
> > >
> > > Wilma is a winner.
> > >
> > > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
> vote
> > is
> > > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> > concerned
> > > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> > college,
> > > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the
polls
> > > close?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything),
I
> > > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> > talking
> > > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> > >
> > > Your tickets are in the mail.
> > >
> > > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of
the
> > beat
> > > the campaign is looking for?
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo

>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> > > > >
> > > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > > >
> > > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s

>
> > > > or
> > > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
> singer)
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk

>
> > > >
> > > > Getting Ravi in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[bobpriced]

Dear Obba,

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Price,
>   Bob,
>   and wife,
> I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.

I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
"Hidden Iman".

>   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.

I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its belly
full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY 



>
> I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in the
> process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
light
> at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
There
> were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
>
> I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
>
> A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
>
> To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?

I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would justify
a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as Buck
won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a cheap
shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Gold_Souk  


>
> Looking forward for the tickets. I need to get out of here, cabin
fever
> brought about by the ketu subdasha. Lucky all this is coinciding with
> the end of the antardasha in another week. Whew.

All I can say about this paragraph is tank God for Google; I reckon you
only fly first?

>
> Unfortunately, Wilma passed almost 10 years ago, and she had no
> offspring (Lesbian), but I know her nephew who plays guitar and works
as
> a magician (yes, a Magician)in LA, but the good news, music runs in
his
> family blood, something a lot of people forget certain hereditary
traits
> allow for this dharmic curse(kind of like ignoring Maharishi's
relatives
> is probably not a good idea, even if they came out of the woodwork,
> dhamra man, Dharma.).  (and... Business is slack in Hollywood for the
> meek, right now, so he, him, Wilma's nephew, might be available. You
can
> catch him at the Castle?)
> If that doesn't work out, I don't know who handles Janis's rights.
>   You might want to think of Bette Midler, she may be up to it.
>   Remember the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR6okRuOLc8


Alternatively, I'm wondering if you (I'm still on probation)  could
speak with the MGC and find
out if they would consider recording a music video like this for the
campaign (including the wardrobe and
choreography):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrfY7RNaBjw


>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > Obba,
> >
> > Wilma is a winner.
> >
> > From tonight's traffic I think its save to say the *enlightened*
vote
> is
> > a write off, but its so small we won't notice; I'm a lot more
> concerned
> > about the delusional's, we'll need them to carry the electoral
> college,
> > any chance of getting Ravi to do a Rory impersonation till the polls
> > close?
> >
> > I'm trying to find my old intro lecture notes (I save everything), I
> > thought we could use improved Social Behavior and World Peace as
> talking
> > points for the Raja; do you have any gold leaf in storage?
> >
> > Your tickets are in the mail.
> >
> > If Wilma's busy, how bout Janis---to give him a general idea of the
> beat
> > the campaign is looking for?
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJb7cBfrxbo

> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mr. Price, Bob,
> > >
> > > May I suggest this style of a C & W song for Ravi's campaign.
> > >   I just love Patsy's voice youtu.be/lx5TZiReKtE?t=25s

> > > or
> > >   Ms. Wilma Burgess (brave beautiful openly lesbian country
singer)
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZI1-K5YbEk

> > >
> > > Getting Ravi in the mood for country. Or there always is this song
> > style
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sco_eBvXGTQ

> > > "call me darling, you
> > > never even call me by my name. mm"
> > >
> > > BTW, tentative NE, until my plane ticket arrives... I'll cover the
> > > whole southwestern and the whole lower eastern seaboard until
then,
> > > okay?
> > >

[FairfieldLife] RE: Hebrew vs. Sanskrit?

[cardemaister]

[FairfieldLife] Find Your Self

[Richard J. Williams]

Can you find yourself? Incredible Racial Map of USA shows one pixel for
every person!

http://tinyurl.com/kee8z8m 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Mindfulness NOW!

[Richard J. Williams]

What do we want?

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[richardatrwilliamsdotus]

turquoiseb:
> To rudely follow up on my own post, but cutting to 
> the chase...
>
If you had free will, you could levitate or leap over 
tall buildings; you would have mind control and be 
able to predict the future, so you could avoid the 
dangers that lie ahead. Go figure.

Free will would be like being a God - able to cause 
change at will.

Sorry Charlie, but the world doesn't work that way. 

We all follow the laws of cause and effect - a body 
in motion tends to stay in motion, etc.

That is, unless you're attempting to inject a new,
transcendental force into the universe. 

Just remember: a body at rest tends to stay at rest.

LoL!
  
> IF you believe
> that Nature runs things
> and you don't really
> have any Free Will
> with which to "decide"
> what to do
> 
> DID you ever
> have a choice about
> whether to meditate
> or not?
> 
> :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Very nice post. THIS is what Fairfield Life could be if so many
> > weren't so committed to lowering it to their level.
> >
> > That said, I only have one comment, and I hope you understand
> > that this is for fun, since we've discussed our differences of opinion
> > on the subject of free will in the past...
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > So, being able to enlighten someone or teach them about it is a
> > > pretty big gift, and so I do respect MMY - warts and all.
> >
> > IF, as you suggest, there is no free will, and we're just flowing
> along
> > with Nature, circling the drain of ITS intention, not ours, why would
> > an ostensible teacher of enlightenment be any more special than any
> > other being, or what they "teach" a "gift?"
> >
> > I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> > intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> > do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> > theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> > *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> > or whatever you choose to call it.
> >
> > Enlightened, schmightened. If there is No Free Will, and no one has
> > the ABILITY to change what is going to happen to them (because
> > Nature is "running" all of that shit), then how can any "teaching" by
> > any supposed "teacher of enlightenment" be seen as having been
> > instrumental in any of his/her students realizing enlightenment?
> >
> > Nature handles that shit, according to your theory. Not the seeker,
> > and not the teacher. IF your theory is correct, and there is No Free
> > Will, there is simply no possibile way to affect one's own future. It
> > wouldn't matter how many "teachers of enlightenment" you met;
> > Nature controls whether you're going to realize your own enlight-
> > enment...not the teachers, and not you.
> >
> > :-)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Richard J. Williams]

Duveyoung:
> How'z'come it is that we always ask, "Why did Maharishi 
> have sex?" instead of: "Why in the fuck are we such 
> spiritual toads that he's all we could muster up for a 
> guru?"
> 
This should probably be re-worded to read:

"Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that all we 
could muster up is an interest in the private sex life of 
a guru?"

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Richard J. Williams]

mjackson74: 
> So how did any of you process these allegations that 
> Maharishi was sexually active?
>
My feeling is that MMY may have received a back rub that 
might have turned in to a groin massage a few times. 

So, how is a little guy like that doing much humping on 
big girls? A guy that small could get thrown across the 
room if he tried to do much on top of someone of normal 
size. 

I just can't picture MMY getting somebody to lay down on 
their back on top of that calf skin of his, underneath a 
painting of SBS, up on the roof in 100 degrees, and with 
Jerry trying to sleep in the living room. 

You think they climbed in through the bathroom window? 

Go figure. 

I mean, this even sounds absurd considering that MMY 
didn't even have a bathroom, a bed or even running water 
at the time.

Can you imagine somebody trying to sneak past Jemima 
Pitman in the middle of the night, when you could hear a 
pin drop at the ashram, and with Ananda Kishore guarding 
the front door? It's just outrageous!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC

[Susan]

Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like them and instantly 
stop reading when I get that whiff.  I do like some of his other types.  I 
understand your position on that and do see what you see, at least to some 
extent.  I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it does not get 
to me.  But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least, seem to be 
doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others. Obviously you are extremely 
bright and are a terrific source of information and are good at detail and 
analysis. And you are very sure of your opinions.  But I find many (not all 
some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational and others to be 
about details and distracting from the main point. Those are the ones of yours 
that I move on from.  

Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were a newbie here.  
Notice how may are attacking other people (not just Barry's, but several the 
others).  Name Calling, bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about 
people's past positions on something or someone.  It is pretty odd, and for me 
with not much free time due to a job and other responsibilities, really 
repetitious.

I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I am not advocating 
posting limits.  It is more the tone of the place and all the personal stuff 
that goes on and on and is not resolved.  I mean, if you don't like someone, 
why bother to read what they write?  Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be 
the case.  But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in any way 
by criticizing.  Or pointing things out.  Maybe this post is just another one 
of those.So, for me being selective and opting out once I get that 
Ad H whiff is my solution.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was
> > not including Barry in the posts that I don't read.  I do
> > skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at FFL. I
> > also skip most of the posts of several other people for
> > the reasons I stated. I find many of Barry's posts really 
> > interesting.
> 
> What I've never understood, Susan, is how you've missed
> the fact that Barry's posts, more than anyone else's on
> FFL, *depend* on ad hominem.
> 
> If you are trying to avoid reading ad hominem, you'd have
> to skip reading *most* of his posts. It's not just those
> that "generalize about TBs at FFL." It's vicious,
> sadistic personal attacks on specific individuals, attacks
> on *TMers* in general (not just those on FFL, and not just
> TBs), attacks on Americans in general, and on and on.
> 
> And for the most part these are *gratuitous* attacks, not
> responses to attacks by others on himself.
> 
> I'm far from the only person here who is aware of all
> this. Barry's posts emit a sort of miasma of hatred that
> permeates the group, and you have somehow managed to
> close your perception to it--while at the same time
> self-righteously holding your nose at the ad hominem of
> *other* people.
> 
> It's just very, very strange, Susan.
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say 
> > > > > in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently
> > > > with her suggestion that people learn from their 
> > > > previous experience and just not bother reading any
> > > > of the posts by people who you already know won't
> > > > have anything to say.
> > > 
> > > Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry?
> > > 
> > > Here's what she said:
> > > 
> > > "Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum,
> > > and usually made by the same people over and over and over.
> > > I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it
> > > even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things
> > > used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read
> > > them. At all. Works for me."
> > > 
> > > Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and
> > > that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not
> > > read your posts.
> > > 
> > > OOOopsie.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > >
> > > As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm
> > > wondering if anyone would be kind enough to translate this
> > > one for me, particularly the last paragraph.
> > 
> > Basically, he's questioning a premise that I'm not sure was
> > ever proposed, i.e., how women could have found Maharishi
> > sexually attractive ("bonable") when he, as a straight man,
> > did not. (Do not think too hard about that or you'll get
> > confused. Just take it as it comes.)
> > 
> > In the last paragraph, "because" refers to "want to bone him,"
> > not to "find it difficult to imagine." 
> > 
> > Does that help? As you know, Barry has explained to us that
> > he writes as fast as he thinks, and every now and then that
> > creates a bit of a wrinkle in his syntax.
> > 
> > Also, in his usage, "to bone" is an equal-opportunity verb,
> > applying to both boneur and bonee. Seems like he may have
> > encountered some rather strange...uh...women in his time.
> > 
> Thanks for the clarification. I was confused until Judy made it really clear 
> of Turq's um, meaning and desires. :)
> 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
> > 
> > Not bonable...
> > 
>   Agree.
> > 
or evendonovanforthatmatter..
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >  , turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >  , Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore
> > > > > the act because of who he did it with? You know the
> > > > > women and don't like them or what?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different
> > > > direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most
> > > > puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers-
> > > > boning-their-students thang is that often I really,
> > > > really don't "get" the attraction, from the woman's
> > > > side.
> > > >
> > > > Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but
> > > > I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi
> > > > Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have
> > > > sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan-
> > > > dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their
> > > > minds, possibly.
> > > >
> > > > But sexually attractive? I just don't get it.
> > > >
> > > > With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely
> > > > see them being considered sexually attractive by their
> > > > students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung
> > > > a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly
> > > > met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even
> > > > by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers,
> > > > because they were hot!
> > > >
> > > > But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many
> > > > reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him,
> > > > most of them closely tied to the word "devotee," but I
> > > > find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to
> > > > bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Mike Dixon]

Thanks for re-reading that Share. I'm not for for anybody condemning anyone 
about their personal lives. I was merely offering an explanation which may or 
may not be valid. < Yes ,I think M did believe that religions still have that 
power but I also believe he knew that religion is pure and our ability to 
understand the intent is according to our own individual capacity or level of 
evolution.

 


 From: Share Long 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
   
 
Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's a hot 
topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at the very least, 
condemning people if their sexuality is different than the supposed norm.

I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have any power 
to protect the evolution of souls.
 


 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then she's 
all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was in 
regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. People 
practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, which 
has the capacity to evolve as they do..
 


 From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
  
  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
wrote: > > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by > 
"religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who > might have issues 
with sexuality. In general if there's any > enforcing to be done, other than to 
defend one's self > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life 
> take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.  And very well said, 
Share.  > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
 wrote: > > > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, 
encourage the suppression of homosexual activity, so that it remains only in 
that transitional incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- 
time. In other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is to 
protect the evolution of the soul. > >  > >  > >  > >
  > >  From: authfriend  > > To: 
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com  > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 
PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years 
> >  > >    > >  > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
 wrote: > > > > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in 
Theosophy. As I remember > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to 
the other > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite 
> > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The > > > 
second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third  > > > incarnation 
is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super  > > > masculine man or the 
super feminine woman. So naturally, the > > > next change, brings with it, 
impressions from the previous > > > birth which was exaggerated. > >  > > When 
you first posted this, you
 presented it as an > > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine" 
> > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about > > appearance, 
which I believe you were when you posted > > it before) could just as easily be 
gay as straight. > >  > > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused 
with > > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but > > sometimes they 
don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want > > to change their gender. > >  > > 
This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one another 
going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do unto others 
as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other karmas  and 
hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be expressed. Who knows why 
someone feels they are in the wrong body? That could be untangling a > > >  
mess that you'll never figure out. > > > 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm
> > wondering if anyone would be kind enough to translate this
> > one for me, particularly the last paragraph.
> 
> Basically, he's questioning a premise that I'm not sure was
> ever proposed, i.e., how women could have found Maharishi
> sexually attractive ("bonable") when he, as a straight man,
> did not. (Do not think too hard about that or you'll get
> confused. Just take it as it comes.)
> 
> In the last paragraph, "because" refers to "want to bone him,"
> not to "find it difficult to imagine." 
> 
> Does that help? As you know, Barry has explained to us that
> he writes as fast as he thinks, and every now and then that
> creates a bit of a wrinkle in his syntax.
> 
> Also, in his usage, "to bone" is an equal-opportunity verb,
> applying to both boneur and bonee. Seems like he may have
> encountered some rather strange...uh...women in his time.
> 
Thanks for the clarification. I was confused until Judy made it really clear of 
Turq's um, meaning and desires. :)

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
> 
> Not bonable...
> 
  Agree.
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  , turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >  , Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore
> > > > the act because of who he did it with? You know the
> > > > women and don't like them or what?
> > >
> > > I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different
> > > direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most
> > > puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers-
> > > boning-their-students thang is that often I really,
> > > really don't "get" the attraction, from the woman's
> > > side.
> > >
> > > Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but
> > > I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi
> > > Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have
> > > sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan-
> > > dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their
> > > minds, possibly.
> > >
> > > But sexually attractive? I just don't get it.
> > >
> > > With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely
> > > see them being considered sexually attractive by their
> > > students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung
> > > a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly
> > > met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even
> > > by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers,
> > > because they were hot!
> > >
> > > But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many
> > > reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him,
> > > most of them closely tied to the word "devotee," but I
> > > find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to
> > > bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
> believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then 
> she's all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was 
> in regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it.

Religion-in-general by itself *has* no role, Mike. Religion
acquires a role only when implemented by its practitioners.



> People practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, 
> which has the capacity to evolve as they do..
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>   
>    
>  
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> > "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> > might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> > enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> > against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> > take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.
> 
> And very well said, Share.
> 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > > to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The
> > > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > > birth which was exaggerated.
> > > 
> > > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > > 
> > > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > > to change their gender.
> > > 
> > > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. 
> > > Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That 
> > > could be untangling a
> > > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Share Long]

Sorry, Mike, yes, you did say suppression and I read enforcement. It's a hot 
topic for me. It sounded like you were in favor of religion, at the very least, 
condemning people if their sexuality is different than the supposed norm.


I wonder if Maharishi thought that contemporary religions really have any power 
to protect the evolution of souls.



 From: Mike Dixon 
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 


  
I'm not really sure what Share was implying in that post. If it was that I 
believe it's open season on harassing people about their sexuality, then she's 
all wet as you would be also if that's what you thought. My comment was in 
regard to the role of religion in general, not how people practice it. People 
practice their religions according to their ability and understanding, which 
has the capacity to evolve as they do..

From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
 
  
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  
wrote:
>
> Unfortunately Mike, any enforcing activity is not done by
> "religion" itself. Enforcing is done by other humans who
> might have issues with sexuality. In general if there's any
> enforcing to be done, other than to defend one's self
> against or protect the weak from aggression, I say let life
> take care of enforcing whatever its natural laws are.

And very well said, Share.

> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps that is why religions, in general, encourage the suppression of 
> > homosexual activity, so that it remains only in that transitional 
> > incarnation instead of piling up from life- time to life- time. In 
> > other-words, if those *tendencies*are  not suppressed, they become 
> > stronger the next time. M has always said that the purpose of religion is 
> > to protect the evolution of the soul.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:24 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember
> > > it( his explanation), we change from one sex to the other
> > > every three incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite
> > > sex drags old tendencies from the previous birth with it. The
> > > second birth in that sex is more balanced, while the third 
> > > incarnation is more of an exaggeration of that sex. The super 
> > > masculine man or the super feminine woman. So naturally, the
> > > next change, brings with it, impressions from the previous
> > > birth which was exaggerated.
> > 
> > When you first posted this, you presented it as an
> > explanation for homosexuality. But a "super masculine"
> > man or "super feminine" woman (if you're talking about
> > appearance, which I believe you were when you posted
> > it before) could just as easily be gay as straight.
> > 
> > Likewise, gender dysphoria should not be confused with
> > homosexual preference. Often they go together, but
> > sometimes they don't. Most gays and lesbians don't want
> > to change their gender.
> > 
> > This would mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to 
> > experience from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one 
> > another going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do 
> > unto others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be expressed. 
> > Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That could be 
> > untangling a
> > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> I mean, if there is no free will, and we're all just doing what Nature
> intends, then how could anything such a "teacher of enlightenment"
> do or say *affect* us in any way? According to the No Free Will
> theory, someone or something ELSE is running things. Nothing that
> *anyone* we ever meet should be able to change that Plan, or Flow,
> or whatever you choose to call it.

They don't. They just implement it.

(Er, check the syntax in your last sentence there. I think
you left out a "does" after "meet.")