Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[TurquoiseBee]

From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC
 


  
Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  

People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.

That, plus the hideous amounts of self-importance of these people expecting 
others to be hanging off their every word. It was like the whole lot of them 
expected to be treated as special just because they had some subjective 
experience they thought was special.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[dhamiltony2k5]

I feel it is a bad thing when a few christian nuts could derail professional 
educators from employing meditation a quiet time in schools as part of 
educational design. It defies good science with their religious non-sense. -Buck
 

 Yep, it is true a quiet-time Gap in education evidently is opening even with 
developing nations in Central and South America too.  This is not good at all 
for us North Americans.  This bigoted ignorance of a few overly religious 
people against good public education puts us all once again in an extremely bad 
competitive position in the world economies.  These anti-science religious nuts 
are being extremely dangerous to everyone in opposing quiet-time meditation in 
schools. 
  -Buck
 

 Yes, I worry for a future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap that America 
is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians if we as Americans 
cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and others all around the Pacific rim 
who are adopting transcending meditation in to their economies for their 
students on good scientific grounds.
 -Buck
 

 awoelflebater writes:

 

 I have to sort of agree with you on this subject regarding this one mother who 
objected to TM because of the "danger" that it might be based in some sort of 
religion. She sounds narrow minded and fearful to me. I think a few minutes of 
TM quiet time for most schools would be beneficial. It might actually get these 
kids off their phones for a whole 20 minutes. I don't applaud this woman, I 
think there are millions out there exactly like her - unimaginative, unexposed 
to much beyond white bread American values and otherwise stuck in the mud. I'll 
go further to conjecture she's a middle class Republican.

 

 punditster writes:
 

 
 On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
 

 There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt
 to sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson
 is apparently a member.
 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702

 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
 at TM-Free.
 .

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[dhamiltony2k5]

Yep, it is true a quiet-time Gap in education evidently is opening even with 
developing nations in Central and South America too.  This is not good at all 
for us North Americans.  This bigoted ignorance of a few overly religious 
people against good public education puts us all once again in an extremely bad 
competitive position in the world economies.  These anti-science religious nuts 
are being extremely dangerous to everyone in opposing quiet-time meditation in 
schools.   -Buck
 

 Yes, I worry for a future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap that America 
is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians if we as Americans 
cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and others all around the Pacific rim 
who are adopting transcending meditation in to their economies for their 
students on good scientific grounds.
 -Buck
 

 awoelflebater writes:

 

 I have to sort of agree with you on this subject regarding this one mother who 
objected to TM because of the "danger" that it might be based in some sort of 
religion. She sounds narrow minded and fearful to me. I think a few minutes of 
TM quiet time for most schools would be beneficial. It might actually get these 
kids off their phones for a whole 20 minutes. I don't applaud this woman, I 
think there are millions out there exactly like her - unimaginative, unexposed 
to much beyond white bread American values and otherwise stuck in the mud. I'll 
go further to conjecture she's a middle class Republican.

 

 punditster writes:
 

 On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
 

 There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt
 to sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson
 is apparently a member.
 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702

 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
 at TM-Free.
 .

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I know she has grit and determination and wasn't afraid to take on the school 
system and the David Lynch foundation - that's enough for me
 

 Grit is one thing and, believe me, I am an admirer of it. But I think her 
cause is not worthy of her "grit". She is campaigning against something that is 
really very benign at worst and at best a vast improvement on the kids deeking 
out to the nearest parking lot for a joint.
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I thought the eating area was like a ship too - I bet the alignment of the 
huts is vastu ved deal but they sure look like something out of the old WWII 
stalags
 

 The chanting rooms seemed nice enough but c'mon, I really think a greater care 
should have been made to ensure the rest of the environment was livable. It 
makes me crazy to think these guys were confined to these types of barracks 
when at least in India you have the richness of color and all of the other 
myriad sensory input that is characteristic of a hot climate where the smells 
of people, pavement, animals and food mingle in a way to let you know you are 
in the land of the living. I can't think of a place that is more out of keeping 
with what they must be used to environmentally/aesthetically. 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

[jr_esq]

Xeno, 

 That's a good question.  I can't speak for the scientists who are pursuing 
this point.  But I do have some ideas of how this can happen.
 

 IMO, our universe is a white hole, the outburst of energy that came from the 
black hole of our parent universe.  The infinite amount of energy that created 
our universe came from the energy that came from the dark energy of our parent 
universe.  Perhaps it is possible to tear the old spacetime at the Planck scale 
in which the dark energy would burst through to create a new universe with a 
new set of spacetime, matter, and laws of nature.
 

 That's why it's necessary to understand what is the ultimate end of our 
universe.  So far, we know that our universe is expanding at an increasing rate 
due to the dark energy.  It is possible that the  expansion could reach the 
speed of light, as Dr. Leonard Susskind from Stanford University theorizes.
 

 But with the current discovery relating to the "inflation" phase of the Big 
Bang, it would also be possible for the rate of expansion to exceed the speed 
of light.
 

 Personally, I would not know how to prove that any of these theories are 
scientifically true.  That's why the new scientists in this field of study have 
a huge challenge ahead of them.  But I'm sure they'll have many ideas.  So, 
we'll just have to wait and see.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 But if space-time comes into existence with the Big Bang, how can a 'time 
before' be a meaningful question?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 

 But now many scientists are asking: what happened before the Big Bang?  Many 
of them think that they can find the answer in scientific terms.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[Michael Jackson]

I know she has grit and determination and wasn't afraid to take on the school 
system and the David Lynch foundation - that's enough for me

On Mon, 3/24/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our 
public schools
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 24, 2014, 1:04 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 she objected to
 it on the grounds that it was being presented dishonestly -
 I have spoken with her and she comes across as neither
 fearful nor narrow minded. 
 She comes
 across that way in what she did to get "quiet
 time" removed from the school system. I still say
 people like her lack imagination and depth. What else do you
 know about her that might be relevant other than that she
 doesn't "come across as neither fearful or narrow
 minded.", whatever that means?
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[Michael Jackson]

I thought the eating area was like a ship too - I bet the alignment of the huts 
is vastu ved deal but they sure look like something out of the old WWII stalags

On Mon, 3/24/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, March 24, 2014, 12:51 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 I agree with you completely about
 this article, Share. It's very refreshing in contrast to
 so much of what we read.
 Incidentally, the TMO is known for
 never admitting mistakes--but the administrators of the
 pandit program have clearly realized (and openly
 acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra
 away without telling the rest of the pandits and giving them
 a chance to say goodbye.
 Interesting to see the pictures. The
 place really does look like a compound of sorts. Surely, and
 this is simply aesthetics I'm talking about, the layout
 of this place could have been far, far more human friendly.
 How about a bush, a tree, a garden? How about not putting
 these dorms in rows that are positively numbing? How about
 creating an eating area that is not reminiscent of the
 bowels of some freighter at sea? When you look at the
 pictures of the other extravagant buildings at MUM it pretty
 much blows my mind. It doesn't take a lot more money to
 make something look interesting and less institutional. It
 takes imagination and someone to give a
 damn.
 I
 think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful
 to the reporter for the compassion, fairness and
 reasonableness contained in it.
  The
 Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[steve.sundur]

 Okay, how bout instead of "Unity sucks an egg", we can go to Vedically 
correct, "Unity sucks hiranyagarbha"

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve, my vote would go to: Doc sez, "Unity sucks!"
 

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:31 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  wrote:
 
   you could always go the blog route.  you've got a catchy handle
 

 Doctor Dumbass and Higher States of Consciousness.  nah.
 

 Doctor Dumbass and the Road to Bliss.  definitely nah
 

 Doctor Dumbass's Fireside Chats.  uh, maybe
 

 Doctor Dumbass: To Brahman and Beyond!.  You know, a play on BuzzLightYear
 

 Just an idea. (-:
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  
 

 People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.
 

 but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Ha!
 
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
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10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If you eliminate your inadvertent cross-comparison, non-sequential opinions, 
and overall conclusion, I could reply, but this radio message from your outer 
space, or inner space, makes no sense to me, Share. Different strokes, indeed.
 

 Oh fuck. Friggin' Hilarious.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, as to the value per post being much higher on BAT, I disagree. As I said, 
I find FFL not only more fun, but also more enlivening of totality and even 
more healing. Different strokes...
 

 
 
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 she objected to it on the grounds that it was being presented dishonestly - I 
have spoken with her and she comes across as neither fearful nor narrow minded. 
 

 She comes across that way in what she did to get "quiet time" removed from the 
school system. I still say people like her lack imagination and depth. What 
else do you know about her that might be relevant other than that she doesn't 
"come across as neither fearful or narrow minded.", whatever that means?
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Share Long]

Steve, my vote would go to: Doc sez, "Unity sucks!"





On Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:31 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
you could always go the blog route.  you've got a catchy handle

Doctor Dumbass and Higher States of Consciousness.  nah.

Doctor Dumbass and the Road to Bliss.  definitely nah

Doctor Dumbass's Fireside Chats.  uh, maybe

Doctor Dumbass: To Brahman and Beyond!.  You know, a play on BuzzLightYear

Just an idea. (-:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  

People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.

but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
Ha!


Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!




On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:

 
BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in person 
component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in FF every 
Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and now 
BATGAP is petering out, the
forum not the interviews. But someone in Australia recently revived WNS. Not 
sure how long that revival will last...


Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want their 
spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:

 
what is WNS?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not
that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 




On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

 
Somebody is doing some compulsive reading!

Posting History FairfiledLife:





>>
>>
>>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light 
>>>heartedness to FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he 
>>>posted some good articles about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat 
>>>obsessed about turq's report about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's 
>>>perfect. Go figure!
>>>
>>>
>>>Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say 
>>>"compulsive"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
>>>considered taking up a hobby?
>>> 
>>>From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>>[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of FFL PostCount
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
>>>To: FairfieldLife
>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03
UTC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Fairfield Life Post Counter
>>>===
>>>Start Date (UTC): 03/15/14 00:00:00
>>>End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
>>>822 messages as of (UTC) 03/20/14 23:59:05
>>>
>>>172 Richard J. Williams 
>>>87 authfriend
>>>58 TurquoiseBee 
>>>58 Share Long 
>>>56 doctordumbass
>>>42 emilymaenot
>>>41 Michael Jackson 
>>>37 awoelflebater
>>>33 steve.sundur
>>>33 Bhairitu 
>>>28 Mike Dixon 
>>>26 salyavin808 
>>>26 nablusoss1008 
>>>24 dhamiltony2k5
>>>16
cardemaister
>>>12 jr_esq
>>>12 LEnglish5
>>>10 anartaxius
>>>10 Pundit Sir 
>>>9 s3raphita
>>>6 Rick Archer 
>>>4 emptybill
>>>3 ultrarishi 
>>>2 wgm4u 
>>>2 srijau
>>>2 punditster
>>>2 merudanda 
>>>2 martyboi
>>>2 j_alexander_stanley
>>>2 Dick Mays 
>>>1 yifuxero
>>>1 turquoiseb
>>>1 martin.quickma

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree with you completely about this article, Share. It's very refreshing in 
contrast to so much of what we read. 

 Incidentally, the TMO is known for never admitting mistakes--but the 
administrators of the pandit program have clearly realized (and openly 
acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra away without 
telling the rest of the pandits and giving them a chance to say goodbye.
 

 Interesting to see the pictures. The place really does look like a compound of 
sorts. Surely, and this is simply aesthetics I'm talking about, the layout of 
this place could have been far, far more human friendly. How about a bush, a 
tree, a garden? How about not putting these dorms in rows that are positively 
numbing? How about creating an eating area that is not reminiscent of the 
bowels of some freighter at sea? When you look at the pictures of the other 
extravagant buildings at MUM it pretty much blows my mind. It doesn't take a 
lot more money to make something look interesting and less institutional. It 
takes imagination and someone to give a damn.
 

 I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it. 

   The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[steve.sundur]

Well, in this analogy, would a B minor be the dark night of the soul?  (-;
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The enlightened narrative runs out of steam after a certain point, it's like 
the standard musical form A B A. 
 A = ordinary life & B = spiritual path. The part everyone gets hopped up about 
is B. If you get really good at playing the tune suddenly you find once again 
your at A. I think it's worth it, but only because in returning to A you now 
know there are no alternatives to A. It's a good idea to finish the song, and 
not get stuck in the middle.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you could always go the blog route.  you've got a catchy handle 

 Doctor Dumbass and Higher States of Consciousness.  nah.
 

 Doctor Dumbass and the Road to Bliss.  definitely nah
 

 Doctor Dumbass's Fireside Chats.  uh, maybe
 

 Doctor Dumbass: To Brahman and Beyond!.  You know, a play on BuzzLightYear
 

 Just an idea. (-:
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  
 

 People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.
 

 but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 
 
 

















































































 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[anartaxius]

The enlightened narrative runs out of steam after a certain point, it's like 
the standard musical form A B A. 
 A = ordinary life & B = spiritual path. The part everyone gets hopped up about 
is B. If you get really good at playing the tune suddenly you find once again 
your at A. I think it's worth it, but only because in returning to A you now 
know there are no alternatives to A. It's a good idea to finish the song, and 
not get stuck in the middle.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you could always go the blog route.  you've got a catchy handle 

 Doctor Dumbass and Higher States of Consciousness.  nah.
 

 Doctor Dumbass and the Road to Bliss.  definitely nah
 

 Doctor Dumbass's Fireside Chats.  uh, maybe
 

 Doctor Dumbass: To Brahman and Beyond!.  You know, a play on BuzzLightYear
 

 Just an idea. (-:
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  
 

 People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.
 

 but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 
 
 

















































































 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

[anartaxius]

But if space-time comes into existence with the Big Bang, how can a 'time 
before' be a meaningful question?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 

 But now many scientists are asking: what happened before the Big Bang?  Many 
of them think that they can find the answer in scientific terms.

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 24-Mar-14 00:15:07 UTC

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===
Start Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 03/29/14 00:00:00
180 messages as of (UTC) 03/23/14 22:48:54

 37 Richard J. Williams 
 19 authfriend
 16 awoelflebater
 15 Michael Jackson 
 14 Share Long 
 13 steve.sundur
 13 Bhairitu 
  6 doctordumbass
  6 dhamiltony2k5
  6 TurquoiseBee 
  6 Pundit Sir 
  5 anartaxius
  5 Mike Dixon 
  4 nablusoss1008 
  4 jr_esq
  2 turquoiseb
  2 j_alexander_stanley
  2 LEnglish5
  1 ultrarishi 
  1 feste37 
  1 emilymaenot
  1 cardemaister
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

[jr_esq]

Let me think about that for a second.  Supposedly, the "big bang" was 
originally coined as derisive term by an atheist colleague of a priest who 
thought of this theory.  But the name got stuck to the theory.  So, in short, 
the answer is NO. 

 But now many scientists are asking: what happened before the Big Bang?  Many 
of them think that they can find the answer in scientific terms.  So, they've 
set themselves up for a big challenge and a sure fire way to a life time 
employment at some university or government funded research institute.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Isn't that how Jesus was said to be born? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Personally, I don't think so since the Bible is not a science document.  But 
the current scientific verification of the Big Bang's "inflation" has stirred 
this question again. 

 http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[steve.sundur]

you could always go the blog route.  you've got a catchy handle 

 Doctor Dumbass and Higher States of Consciousness.  nah.
 

 Doctor Dumbass and the Road to Bliss.  definitely nah
 

 Doctor Dumbass's Fireside Chats.  uh, maybe
 

 Doctor Dumbass: To Brahman and Beyond!.  You know, a play on BuzzLightYear
 

 Just an idea. (-:
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  
 

 People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.
 

 but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Ha!
 
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
 822 messages as of (UTC) 03/20/14 23:59:05

172 Richard J. Williams 
87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
6 Rick Archer 
4 emptybill
 3 ultrarishi 
2 wgm4u 
2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
2 Dick Mays 
 1 yifuxero
1 turquoiseb
1 martin.quickman
1 WLeed3
1 Duveyoung 
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[FairfieldLife] Moment to Moment

[jr_esq]

Eric Alexander plays an excellent rendition of this classic tune written by 
Henry Mancini. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfhnGyokgwo 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfhnGyokgwo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reset to Nowhere

[Pundit Sir]

The "Russian reset" policy of engaging the Kremlin to pursue shared goals
"has been a serious foreign policy failure for the Obama administration.

"Why did the U.S. abandon its original plan to strike Assad? Much of it had
to do with the fact that it needed Russia as a crucial partner in Iran
nuclear talks."

'Why Putin Is Able To Screw With The US At Every Turn'
http://business_insider/putin-screws-us


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

> "Obama declares that Russia is on the wrong side of history. That may be a
> clinching argument in a debate over gay marriage at Wesleyan University,
> but won't carry much weight with Putin. He thinks he can make history move
> with lies, thuggery and iron. It's now Obama's challenge to prove him
> wrong."
>
> 'Reset to nowhere'
> New York Post:
> http://nypost.com/ 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[steve.sundur]

 Easy Doc, don't take the inactivity personally.  
 

 People may just not be that interested in hearing the enlightened 
narrative..again, and again, and again.
 

 but hell, it had legs for a while  (-:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Ha!
 
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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===
Start Date (UTC): 03/15/14 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
 822 messages as of (UTC) 03/20/14 23:59:05

172 Richard J. Williams 
87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
6 Rick Archer 
4 emptybill
 3 ultrarishi 
2 wgm4u 
2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
2 Dick Mays 
 1 yifuxero
1 turquoiseb
1 martin.quickman
1 WLeed3
1 Duveyoung 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

But, happily the parents, teachers and administrators listened to those who 
know about the ridiculous TMO and those wise people in at least 3 schools in 
San Francisco have kicked David Lynch and his TM buddies out and more to follow.

On Sun, 3/23/14, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 9:03 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   HaHa, there are 26 lost souls on the FB page, like
 whispers from a bygone era only about 30 years
 ago when Christian fundamentalists used to present some
 kind of "opposition" to TM. Today most of them
 have adjusted to the new energies saturating this planet, or
 they simply are out of circulation for the time being. Let
 their representatives here the Turq and MJ rant - no one
 listens to them anyway :-)
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 SF
 Parents Against TM in Public Schools [on
 Facebook]'A site for parents
 who question the constitutionality of TM in public schools
 to come together, with links to independent critical
 articles.'sense of
 being perched somewhere behind your eyes, looking out at a
 world that is separate from yourself—can be altered or
 entirely extinguished. Although such experiences of
 “self-transcendence” are generally thought about in
 religious terms, there is nothing, in principle, irrational
 about them. From both a scientific and a philosophical point
 of view, they represent a clearer understanding of the way
 things are.
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[doctordumbass]

oh shit, I forgot - spiritual development IS a popularity contest! 
Thanks Share and seventh. Great reminder. Where would we be without people like 
you?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Ha!
 
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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===
Start Date (UTC): 03/15/14 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
 822 messages as of (UTC) 03/20/14 23:59:05

172 Richard J. Williams 
87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
6 Rick Archer 
4 emptybill
 3 ultrarishi 
2 wgm4u 
2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
2 Dick Mays 
 1 yifuxero
1 turquoiseb
1 martin.quickman
1 WLeed3
1 Duveyoung 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[doctordumbass]

If you eliminate your inadvertent cross-comparison, non-sequential opinions, 
and overall conclusion, I could reply, but this radio message from your outer 
space, or inner space, makes no sense to me, Share. Different strokes, indeed.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, as to the value per post being much higher on BAT, I disagree. As I said, 
I find FFL not only more fun, but also more enlivening of totality and even 
more healing. Different strokes...
 

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:07 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   Yeah, I enjoy 'fun' too. Yet, sometimes, I like to bounce my experiences off 
of those with similar experiences, with the discussion limited, to those who 
have had similar experiences, and can discuss them intelligently and 
knowledgeably. If you read the brief description for BATGAP, it is for 
'ordinary awakened people', so, yes, not everyone's cup of tea. Even though the 
BATGAP forum is not 'fun', in the way this place is 'fun', the value per post, 
is much higher. I am sorry you missed that.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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===
Start Date (UTC): 03/15/14 00:00:00
End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
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172 Richard J. Williams 
87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
6 Rick Archer 
4 emptybill
 3 ultrarishi 
2 wgm4u 
2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
2 Dick Mays 
 1 yifuxero
1 turquoiseb
1 martin.quickman
1 WLeed3
1 Duveyoung 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[nablusoss1008]

HaHa, there are 26 lost souls on the FB page, like whispers from a bygone era 
only about 30 years ago when Christian fundamentalists used to present some 
kind of "opposition" to TM. Today most of them have adjusted to the new 
energies saturating this planet, or they simply are out of circulation for the 
time being. Let their representatives here the Turq and MJ rant - no one 
listens to them anyway :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 SF Parents Against TM in Public Schools [on Facebook] 'A site for parents who 
question the constitutionality of TM in public schools to come together, with 
links to independent critical articles.' sense of being perched somewhere 
behind your eyes, looking out at a world that is separate from yourself—can be 
altered or entirely extinguished. Although such experiences of 
“self-transcendence” are generally thought about in religious terms, there is 
nothing, in principle, irrational about them. From both a scientific and a 
philosophical point of view, they represent a clearer understanding of the way 
things are. 
 

[FairfieldLife] Father and Son Create Amazing 200 Sq. Ft. Tiny Vastu Cabin for Simple Living

[nablusoss1008]

http://tinyhousetalk.com/vastu-tiny-cabin/ 
http://tinyhousetalk.com/vastu-tiny-cabin/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

[anartaxius]

Isn't that how Jesus was said to be born? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Personally, I don't think so since the Bible is not a science document.  But 
the current scientific verification of the Big Bang's "inflation" has stirred 
this question again. 

 http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html

[FairfieldLife] Vladimir = Great in His Power??

[cardemaister]

 Etymology Max Vasmer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Vasmer in his 
Etymological Dictionary of Russian Language explains the name as meaning 
"regal". Folk etymology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_etymology interprets 
the meaning as "person of the people" or "the one with peace on one side". This 
confusion is introduced by other meanings of the Slavic word "Mir" or "Myr" – 
peace, people/community, and the world.[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29#cite_note-Vasmer-2 There was 
no ambiguity prior to reforms of Russian orthography 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforms_of_Russian_orthography in 1918. The 
spelling of the two words was миръ (peace) and мiръ (the Universe),[3] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29#cite_note-UnAmbig-3 and the 
name was spelled the third way, Владимѣръ,[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29#cite_note-Vasmer-2 of Gothic 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_language -mērs (great), meaning "Great in 
His Power"[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29#cite_note-Vasmer-2 (compare: 
Theodemir http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodemir, Valamir 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valamir). but Russian speakers understood and 
understand the meaning as "Peace Rules" or "World Peace".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_%28name%29

[FairfieldLife] Is the Big Bang in the Bible?

[jr_esq]

Personally, I don't think so since the Bible is not a science document.  But 
the current scientific verification of the Big Bang's "inflation" has stirred 
this question again. 

 http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-bible-04314--politics.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

I don't think he was "fibbing." What he said was that all they were "selling" 
was TM, and that's surely correct as far as it goes. If a kid doesn't want to 
do TM, or his parents refuse to approve it, then the kid does one of the 
alternative Quiet Time activities while the rest meditate. Michael may not know 
that this option has always been part of the Lynch program. But they're not 
"selling" the alternative options; they're just available if TM is out for a 
particular student. 

 

 "1. Quiet Time periods in all classrooms "To incorporate stress reduction into 
students’ daily lives, the participating school adds a 
 twice-daily 'quiet time' period to the morning and afternoon schedule. These 
15-minute 
 breaks are held in all classrooms and are overseen by all teachers. most 
students meditate 
 at this time, while others choose another quiet and educationally valuable 
activity such 
 as reading. The schoolwide Quiet Time periods allow youth to quiet their 
minds, rest their 
 bodies, and restore their readiness to learn."
 
 
 http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/pdf/Quiet-Time-Brochure.pdf 
http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/pdf/Quiet-Time-Brochure.pdf
 

 

 Uh oh - it sure looks like MJ tried to post a fib and got caught by The 
Corrector. I tried to warn him, but he wouldn't listen to me.
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 1:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

"1. Quiet Time periods in all classrooms
"To incorporate stress reduction into students’ daily lives, the 
participating school adds a
twice-daily 'quiet time' period to the morning and afternoon schedule. 
These 15-minute
breaks are held in all classrooms and are overseen by all teachers. 
most students meditate
at this time, while others choose another quiet and educationally 
valuable activity such
as reading. The schoolwide Quiet Time periods allow youth to quiet 
their minds, rest their

bodies, and restore their readiness to learn."

http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/pdf/Quiet-Time-Brochure.pdf

>
Uh oh - it sure looks like MJ tried to post a fib and got caught by The 
Corrector. I tried to warn him, but he wouldn't listen to me.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[Bhairitu]

The networks are having a hard time getting millennials to watch TV.  
Most of them don't own a TV set and if they watch something it is often 
on their phone, tablet or laptop.   That's why they're trying Jimmy 
Fallon for "The Tonight Show" which probably won't work either.  Perhaps 
they need to hire a some 27 year olds to run the networks but probably 
the first thing they would do if put all the ads in one break up front 
which would not please the advertisers. :-D



On 03/23/2014 09:50 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:


At your age, I think probably you do not need to choose. :-|



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
It's just that this one was a retread of old 1960s SciFi ideas 
packaged so as to appeal to a drugged-out, energy drink-swilling, 
not-terribly-bright YA audience. I choose not to be one of them.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] des moines register article today on the pandits

[feste37]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/comments/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/comments/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

"1. Quiet Time periods in all classrooms
 "To incorporate stress reduction into students’ daily lives, the participating 
school adds a 
 twice-daily 'quiet time' period to the morning and afternoon schedule. These 
15-minute 
 breaks are held in all classrooms and are overseen by all teachers. most 
students meditate 
 at this time, while others choose another quiet and educationally valuable 
activity such 
 as reading. The schoolwide Quiet Time periods allow youth to quiet their 
minds, rest their 
 bodies, and restore their readiness to learn."
 

 http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/pdf/Quiet-Time-Brochure.pdf 
http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/pdf/Quiet-Time-Brochure.pdf
 

 

 

 its bullshit - the only thing they are selling is TM and that's it - if anyone 
doesn't believe me go to the facebook page of the SF parents against TM in 
public schools and message the lady who put the page up see what she has to say 
about it.
 
 On Sun, 3/23/14, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 4:59 PM

 I hope that is a fact. When I looked up Quiet Time,
 all the references were about TM only, though I did not go
 through more than two pages on Google. So I do not know if
 this is some general programme for schools or just one
 promoted by the David Lynch Foundation. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote :
 
 As I
 understand it, an "alternative to TM" has been
 part of the Quiet Time program from the beginning. Kids and
 parents get to choose whether the kids will practice TM or
 some alternative (although that alternative might itself be
 religious, e.g., silent prayer).
 
 It seems that
 some of the schools might attempt to put a secular
 alternative to TM in place for 'quiet
 time'. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

I'm only going by what you yourself said in your post, Michael, which was 
rather self-contradictory about her role. You wrote that she and other parents 
got TM kicked out of her son's school; then she called other Quiet Time schools 
and was told TM had already been kicked out of two of them. 

 But then at the end you say, "So how did one determined woman win over a huge 
moneyed organization backed by celebrities, yagyas and the Marshy Effect?" 
If I've misunderstood, or if you miswrote, please clarify.
 

 

 

 Unless you have talked to her as I have don't post as if you know the facts
 
 On Sun, 3/23/14, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:51 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Here's
 Lawson's "paranoia-filled post" in its
 entirety (also quoted at the end of Michael's post
 below):
 There's a huge concerted effort
 (by the massive 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and
 all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is
 apparently a member.
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 Wondering how they will respond if
 the preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war
 refugees is confirmed by independent
 researchers.
 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535
 
 "Huge concerted
 effort (by the massive 26 members)" is obviously Lawson
 being ironic. And according to Barry, there are even fewer
 members than Lawson assumes.
 This post is an excellent example
 of Barry's delusionary spinning. Lawson's post
 isn't at all "paranoid," nor does it sound as
 though he's "afraid." "Disgusted" is
 more like it.
 Michael
 does some of his own spinning as well. Do the kids in fact
 have to "bow" to a picture of Guru Dev? I
 didn't when I learned TM. And of course it wasn't
 just the one woman who got Quiet Time kicked out of the SF
 schools, contrary to what Michael
 suggests.
 I have no
 idea what Michael's problem is with Lawson using the
 phrase "Quiet Time
 schools."
 Also, in
 case anybody isn't aware of this (Michael and Barry
 aren't going to tell you), the kids (and their parents)
 have a choice of TM or some other "quiet"
 practice, religious or secular. Nobody was being forced to
 learn or practice TM.
 
 Thanks for
 filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same reaction
 to Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have
 had. He actually sounds *afraid* of the "massive 26
 members," which we now know to be one woman and a few
 other concerned parents and teachers. He's afraid, even
 though they're "armed" with nothing but the
 truth about what the mantras mean and what the words in the
 puja mean. And probably a little truth about Rajas and their
 gold crowns and long robes and one-million-dollar-a-head
 "qualifications" for that
 title. 
 When told these things, especially in the face of the
 evasions and BS they get from the TM teachers when they
 confront them with what they've been told, the other
 parents and the teachers
 make the right decision US Constitution-wise, and boot the
 stealth religion out of their schools. 
 
 If TM were really so great, the TM organization
 wouldn't have to lie to sell it. 
 
 
 From: Michael Jackson
 
 To:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday,
 March 23, 2014 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re:
 [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to
 Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 
 
  Oh,
 and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all
 Quiet Time schools. Isn't it interesting that you
 characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather
 than schools where quiet time program has been
 implemented?
 
 
 
 I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page
 you mention. She got a permission slip from her son's
 school asking her to sign to allow her son to participate in
 the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there
 was really no clear description of the program. When she
 learned it was TM with its Hindu underpinnings, replete with
 secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a Hindu guru for
 the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice
 was violating the no religion in public school barrier.
 
 
 
 As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM
 related "programs" she became more alarmed
 especially after receiving evasive and circular answers from
 the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to
 get the program removed from her son's school.
 
 
 
 At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

its bullshit - the only thing they are selling is TM and that's it - if anyone 
doesn't believe me go to the facebook page of the SF parents against TM in 
public schools and message the lady who put the page up see what she has to say 
about it.

On Sun, 3/23/14, anartax...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 4:59 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   I hope that is a fact. When I looked up Quiet Time,
 all the references were about TM only, though I did not go
 through more than two pages on Google. So I do not know if
 this is some general programme for schools or just one
 promoted by the David Lynch Foundation. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 As I
 understand it, an "alternative to TM" has been
 part of the Quiet Time program from the beginning. Kids and
 parents get to choose whether the kids will practice TM or
 some alternative (although that alternative might itself be
 religious, e.g., silent prayer).
 
 It seems that
 some of the schools might attempt to put a secular
 alternative to TM in place for 'quiet
 time'.
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[Michael Jackson]

she objected to it on the grounds that it was being presented dishonestly - I 
have spoken with her and she comes across as neither fearful nor narrow minded. 

On Sun, 3/23/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public 
schools
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:33 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  wrote :
 
 I worry for a
 future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap  that
 America
 is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians
 if we as
 Americans cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and
 others all
 around the Pacific rim who are adopting transcending
 meditation in to
 their economies for their students on good scientific
 grounds.-Buck
 I have to sort of agree with you on
 this subject regarding this one mother who objected to TM
 because of the "danger" that it might be based in
 some sort of religion. She sounds narrow minded and fearful
 to me. I think a few minutes of TM quiet time for most
 schools would be beneficial. It might actually get these
 kids off their phones for a whole 20 minutes. I don't
 applaud this woman, I think there are millions out there
 exactly like her - unimaginative, unexposed to much beyond
 white bread American values and otherwise stuck in the mud.
 I'll go further to conjecture she's a middle class
 Republican.
 punditster
 writes:
 
 On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM,
 LEnglish5 wrote:
 There's
 a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to
 attemptto
 sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco.
 Mjacksonis
 apparently a member.
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
 
 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson
 is apparently working for John Knapp 
 
 at TM-Free.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

Unless you have talked to her as I have don't post as if you know the facts

On Sun, 3/23/14, authfri...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:51 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Here's
 Lawson's "paranoia-filled post" in its
 entirety (also quoted at the end of Michael's post
 below):
 There's a huge concerted effort
 (by the massive 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and
 all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is
 apparently a member.
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 Wondering how they will respond if
 the preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war
 refugees is confirmed by independent
 researchers.
 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535
 
 "Huge concerted
 effort (by the massive 26 members)" is obviously Lawson
 being ironic. And according to Barry, there are even fewer
 members than Lawson assumes.
 This post is an excellent example
 of Barry's delusionary spinning. Lawson's post
 isn't at all "paranoid," nor does it sound as
 though he's "afraid." "Disgusted" is
 more like it.
 Michael
 does some of his own spinning as well. Do the kids in fact
 have to "bow" to a picture of Guru Dev? I
 didn't when I learned TM. And of course it wasn't
 just the one woman who got Quiet Time kicked out of the SF
 schools, contrary to what Michael
 suggests.
 I have no
 idea what Michael's problem is with Lawson using the
 phrase "Quiet Time
 schools."
 Also, in
 case anybody isn't aware of this (Michael and Barry
 aren't going to tell you), the kids (and their parents)
 have a choice of TM or some other "quiet"
 practice, religious or secular. Nobody was being forced to
 learn or practice TM.
 
 Thanks for
 filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same reaction
 to Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have
 had. He actually sounds *afraid* of the "massive 26
 members," which we now know to be one woman and a few
 other concerned parents and teachers. He's afraid, even
 though they're "armed" with nothing but the
 truth about what the mantras mean and what the words in the
 puja mean. And probably a little truth about Rajas and their
 gold crowns and long robes and one-million-dollar-a-head
 "qualifications" for that
 title. 
 When told these things, especially in the face of the
 evasions and BS they get from the TM teachers when they
 confront them with what they've been told, the other
 parents and the teachers
 make the right decision US Constitution-wise, and boot the
 stealth religion out of their schools. 
 
 If TM were really so great, the TM organization
 wouldn't have to lie to sell it. 
 
  
  From: Michael Jackson
 
  To:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday,
 March 23, 2014 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re:
 [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to
 Counter-Revolutionary poison?
  
 
  Oh,
 and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all
 Quiet Time schools. Isn't it interesting that you
 characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather
 than schools where quiet time program has been
 implemented?
 
 
 
 I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page
 you mention. She got a permission slip from her son's
 school asking her to sign to allow her son to participate in
 the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there
 was really no clear description of the program. When she
 learned it was TM with its Hindu underpinnings, replete with
 secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a Hindu guru for
 the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice
 was violating the no religion in public school barrier.
 
 
 
 As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM
 related "programs" she became more alarmed
 especially after receiving evasive and circular answers from
 the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to
 get the program removed from her son's school.
 
 
 
 At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at
 their school, the teachers collectively had a say in what
 extracurricular programs were offered there. So after her
 speaking to the school board and having other parents
 express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves
 voted to give the TMO the boot. The teachers at this school
 did it, mind you, not the school board or the principle.
 
 
 
 Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that
 were listed by the Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time.
 Two schools still have it, but at least two others have
 given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had
 been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear
 they were gone she didn't think to ask. But she did say
 this: "Each time, I heard a pretty emphatic "not
 here and not anymo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

If I am they are forgetting to send me a check.

On Sun, 3/23/14, authfri...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 4:14 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   John Knapp doesn't have anything to do with
 TM-Free any longer. And I seriously doubt Michael is
 "working for" Doughney (who runs TM-Free) or Gina
 (not sure what her role is in TM-Free).
 
 
 Mike
 Doughney had his own anti-TM site
 well before Knapp started Trancenet.
 >
 
 Don't try to confuse us - MJ is working for Mike
 Doughney, John
 Knapp, and Gena Catena at TM-Free - to discredit you, the
 TMer - one
 of the four remaining on FFL. Now you own it.
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[Bhairitu]

On 03/23/2014 09:38 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:

*From:* Bhairitu 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

BTW, the second season of "Line of  Duty", all episodes, is now 
available in the US on HuluPlus.  That's just a little over a month 
after it played in the UK.


Now THAT is a good series. Compelling from start to finish, with 
excellent characterization *and* plot. It is very, very, very rare 
that a writer of crime / conspiracy plots can keep me hanging until 
the very end of the series without having figured everything out, but 
Jed Mercurio did. I think Keeley Hawes is already considered to have a 
lock on a BAFTA nomination for her work in it, and Mercurio himself 
will almost certainly be nominated again himself as writer/creator.


BTW, not to prolong my dumping on "The 100" but to explain further, 
it's not that I dislike "Young Adult" movies and TV made from popular 
YA novels as a whole. Yes, the "Twilight" series sucked dead dogs, but 
I actually enjoyed many parts of the "Hunger Games" series. It's just 
that this one was a retread of old 1960s SciFi ideas packaged so as to 
appeal to a drugged-out, energy drink-swilling, not-terribly-bright YA 
audience. I choose not to be one of them.  :-)


So of these ideas need to be repackaged for younger audiences. 
"Continuum" which began it's third season in Canada a couple weeks ago 
and starts the 4th of April in the US doesn't really have that many new 
ideas either but it is an interesting show.


I tried "Star Crossed" and the "Tomorrow People" on the CW and lasted 
one episode of each.  OTOH, I've been a "Supernatural" fan for years but 
then it's target audience is older.


I watched two episodes of "Line of Duty" season 2 last night and will 
watch a couple more tonight.  Hulu didn't overload it with commercials 
either with probably 4 breaks of a minute each.  Some folks are dropping 
their Hulu+ subscriptions because of increasing commercials.  Hulu which 
is otherwise free on the Internet may have just one episode a week of 
"Line of Duty".  They did that with "Bron Broen" but had all episode 
available on Plus.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[anartaxius]

I hope that is a fact. When I looked up Quiet Time, all the references were 
about TM only, though I did not go through more than two pages on Google. So I 
do not know if this is some general programme for schools or just one promoted 
by the David Lynch Foundation.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As I understand it, an "alternative to TM" has been part of the Quiet Time 
program from the beginning. Kids and parents get to choose whether the kids 
will practice TM or some alternative (although that alternative might itself be 
religious, e.g., silent prayer). 

 

 It seems that some of the schools might attempt to put a secular alternative 
to TM in place for 'quiet time'.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[anartaxius]

At your age, I think probably you do not need to choose. :-|
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 It's just that this one was a retread of old 1960s SciFi ideas packaged so as 
to appeal to a drugged-out, energy drink-swilling, not-terribly-bright YA 
audience. I choose not to be one of them.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

As I understand it, an "alternative to TM" has been part of the Quiet Time 
program from the beginning. Kids and parents get to choose whether the kids 
will practice TM or some alternative (although that alternative might itself be 
religious, e.g., silent prayer). 

 

 It seems that some of the schools might attempt to put a secular alternative 
to TM in place for 'quiet time'.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[TurquoiseBee]

From: Bhairitu 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review
 


  
BTW, the second season of "Line of  Duty", all episodes, is now available in 
the US on HuluPlus.  That's just a little over a month after it played in the 
UK.

Now THAT is a good series. Compelling from start to finish, with excellent 
characterization *and* plot. It is very, very, very rare that a writer of crime 
/ conspiracy plots can keep me hanging until the very end of the series without 
having figured everything out, but Jed Mercurio did. I think Keeley Hawes is 
already considered to have a lock on a BAFTA nomination for her work in it, and 
Mercurio himself will almost certainly be nominated again himself as 
writer/creator.

BTW, not to prolong my dumping on "The 100" but to explain further, it's not 
that I dislike "Young Adult" movies and TV made from popular YA novels as a 
whole. Yes, the "Twilight" series sucked dead dogs, but I actually enjoyed many 
parts of the "Hunger Games" series. It's just that this one was a retread of 
old 1960s SciFi ideas packaged so as to appeal to a drugged-out, energy 
drink-swilling, not-terribly-bright YA audience. I choose not to be one of 
them.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[anartaxius]

SF Parents Against TM in Public Schools [on Facebook] 'A site for parents who 
question the constitutionality of TM in public schools to come together, with 
links to independent critical articles.' 
 MARCH 2 I am very, very happy to announce, 
 NO MORE TM IN MY SON'S HIGH SCHOOL! I just received an email from the 
principal; the teachers voted to discontinue TM and will be considering a 
secular alternative for next year! Thank you, everyone, for all your support, 
information and insightful comments. TM has no place in a public school. Next, 
the district superintendent and the board of the unified school district! The 
first battle is won! On to the next! Many, many thanks, dear friends! 
 MARCH 14 
 Just called Thurgood Marshall and they don't have it anymore either. That only 
leaves Visitacion Valley Middle school! 
 - 
 You can blame Thomas Jefferson for this: 
 Letter to Benjamin Rush (excerpt) September 23, 1800 [T]he clause of the 
Constitution which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the 
freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining 
an establishment of a particular form of Christianity through the United 
States; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps 
hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians and Congregationalists. The 
returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes and they 
believe that any portion of power confided to me will be exerted in opposition 
to their schemes. And they believe rightly. 
 Letter to Danbury Baptists (entire letter) 
 To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee 
of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut. 
 Gentlemen 
 The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as 
to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me 
the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of 
the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my 
fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing. 
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & 
his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that 
the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I 
contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people 
which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an 
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus 
building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this 
expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of 
conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those 
sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he 
has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your 
kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of 
man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of 
my high respect & esteem. 
 Th Jefferson Jan. 1. 1802. 
 - 
 It seems that some of the schools might attempt to put a secular alternative 
to TM in place for 'quiet time'. 
 The TMO's problem is that in spite of its rhetoric, it has been unable to 
secularise TM. Technically this should be possible. Mindfulness variants of 
meditation have be successfully secularised. Maharishi's early statements to 
the effect that the mantras of TM are 'the mantras of the personal gods', the 
philosophical structure of SCI, and the puja are pretty hard to cover up. The 
checking notes appear to be completely secular in structure. The checking 
procedure with other mantras not derived from religious sources and dumping the 
puja and SCI, I think it possible it would work. There is no evidence that the 
TM mantras are special in some way except they are short and do not have any 
obvious meaning (except advanced techniques). As the world seems gradually 
moving in a secular direction, aside from the backwater United States, a 
secular alternative is needed, assuming there is sufficient evidence that it is 
effective. But as the scientific evidence of whatever meditation does is 
typically quite weak this seems unlikely. The main problem seems to be each 
group that does research promotes their own group's technique exclusively and 
the research is heavily drenched with confirmation bias. 
 Neuroscientist Sam Harris is about to have a book published 'Waking Up, A 
Guide to Spirituality without Religion' and he is going on tour with it, 
lecturing and interacting with audiences to create a course which will be 
available. 
 To quote Harris: 
 This fall, I will stage a series of live events—in Los Angeles, New York, and 
San Francisco—to coincide with the publication of my new book, Waking Up: A 
Gu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[authfriend]

I agree with you completely about this article, Share. It's very refreshing in 
contrast to so much of what we read. 

 Incidentally, the TMO is known for never admitting mistakes--but the 
administrators of the pandit program have clearly realized (and openly 
acknowledged) that it was a mistake to try to spirit Mishra away without 
telling the rest of the pandits and giving them a chance to say goodbye.
 

 

 I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it. 

   The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound
 
 
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 11:14 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*John Knapp doesn't have anything to do with TM-Free any longer. And I 
seriously doubt Michael is "working for" Doughney (who runs TM-Free) 
or Gina (not sure what her role is in TM-Free).*

>
You don't have any insider information about this, obviously. Knapp is 
the Webmaster and the owner of the TM-Free site.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 10:52 AM, Share Long wrote:
I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the 
reporter for the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it.

>
It's not very unusual for students to be on a work-study program at a 
religious seminary. And, student housing isn't always up to the highest 
standards. If I was running things up there, I'd get the pundits some of 
those big expensive houses I see on Google Earth. How much does it cost 
to build a house like that in Vedic City? $250,000?


If I was in charge, I'd limit the pundit program to about a dozen 
pundits and place each pundit in each of the homes in Vedic City, 
sitting right in the middle of the middle of the house, right under the 
umbrella on the roof. When they weren't meditating or praying, I'd seed 
them on a bus in to town to MUM every school day. That's what I would do.


"As for pay, he said the university has a similar model for its staff, 
who get room, board, benefits and a stipend, but forgo more money for 
the larger cause."


http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound/ 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[TurquoiseBee]

From: Bhairitu 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review
 


  
On 03/23/2014 05:15 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
>
>
>You might want  to check out the CW series "The 100" which debuted this last 
>week.  Usually CW, whose target audience is younger, has some fairly 
>adolescent shows and of course the central characters in this one are older 
>teens.  The premise is that there was an apocalyptic nuclear war on earth and 
>a small number of people escaped to a space station.  Now that they feel the 
>earth is safe they send a group of 100 teens to the planet.  But there is 
>really another reason they were sent... ;-) 
>
>Dumbest and least interesting TV show I may have ever seen in my life. 
>
I suspect you didn't watch it through to the end.  Like I said the
target market is teens.

I watched it all. The strength of my review was wrath at having had an hour 
taken from me that I can never get back. :-)

I probably watch show for a different reason than you.  I want to
see what they are telegraphing to audiences.  It's actually playing
well for a selective audience on a home theater forum I'm on.  

That is probably why I hated it so much. If the "Young Adult" audience of 
America is dumb enough to like this, I fear for the country's future. 

They
are treading into areas such as "Utopia" did, speaking of which it
will be interesting to see how HBO kills that remake.  It also
treaded a bit into "Logan's Run" territory. ;-) 

"Retread" is more like it. There was not an original idea in the whole hour. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[Bhairitu]

On 03/23/2014 05:15 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


You might want  to check out the CW series "The 100" which debuted 
this last week. Usually CW, whose target audience is younger, has some 
fairly adolescent shows and of course the central characters in this 
one are older teens.  The premise is that there was an apocalyptic 
nuclear war on earth and a small number of people escaped to a space 
station. Now that they feel the earth is safe they send a group of 100 
teens to the planet.  But there is really another reason they were 
sent... ;-)


Dumbest and least interesting TV show I may have ever seen in my life.


BTW, the second season of "Line of  Duty", all episodes, is now 
available in the US on HuluPlus.  That's just a little over a month 
after it played in the UK.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[Bhairitu]

On 03/23/2014 05:15 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


You might want  to check out the CW series "The 100" which debuted 
this last week. Usually CW, whose target audience is younger, has some 
fairly adolescent shows and of course the central characters in this 
one are older teens.  The premise is that there was an apocalyptic 
nuclear war on earth and a small number of people escaped to a space 
station. Now that they feel the earth is safe they send a group of 100 
teens to the planet.  But there is really another reason they were 
sent... ;-)


Dumbest and least interesting TV show I may have ever seen in my life.


I suspect you didn't watch it through to the end.  Like I said the 
target market is teens.


I probably watch show for a different reason than you.  I want to see 
what they are telegraphing to audiences.  It's actually playing well for 
a selective audience on a home theater forum I'm on.  They are treading 
into areas such as "Utopia" did, speaking of which it will be 
interesting to see how HBO kills that remake.  It also treaded a bit 
into "Logan's Run" territory. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

John Knapp doesn't have anything to do with TM-Free any longer. And I seriously 
doubt Michael is "working for" Doughney (who runs TM-Free) or Gina (not sure 
what her role is in TM-Free). 

 

 

 Mike Doughney had his own anti-TM site well before Knapp started Trancenet. >
 Don't try to confuse us - MJ is working for Mike Doughney, John Knapp, and 
Gena Catena at TM-Free - to discredit you, the TMer - one of the four remaining 
on FFL. Now you own it.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Share Long]

Doc, as to the value per post being much higher on BAT, I disagree. As I said, 
I find FFL not only more fun, but also more enlivening of totality and even 
more healing. Different strokes...





On Sunday, March 23, 2014 11:07 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Yeah, I enjoy 'fun' too. Yet, sometimes, I like to bounce my experiences off of 
those with similar experiences, with the discussion limited, to those who have 
had similar experiences, and can discuss them intelligently and knowledgeably. 
If you read the brief description for BATGAP, it is for 'ordinary awakened 
people', so, yes, not everyone's cup of tea. Even though the BATGAP forum is 
not 'fun', in the way this place is 'fun', the value per post, is much higher. 
I am sorry you missed that.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!

Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!




On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:

 
BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in person 
component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in FF every 
Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and now 
BATGAP is petering out, the
forum not the interviews. But someone in Australia recently revived WNS. Not 
sure how long that revival will last...


Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want their 
spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:

 
what is WNS?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not
that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 




On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

 
Somebody is doing some compulsive reading!

Posting History FairfiledLife:





>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness 
to FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good 
articles about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about 
turq's report about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!


Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"?







On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:

 
Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
On Behalf Of FFL PostCount
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03
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87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16
cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
6 Rick Archer 
4 emptybill
3 ultrarishi 
2 wgm4u 
2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
2 Dick Mays 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 10:28 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Mike Doughney had his own anti-TM site well before Knapp started 
Trancenet.

>
Don't try to confuse us - MJ is working for Mike Doughney, John Knapp, 
and Gena Catena at TM-Free - to discredit you, the TMer - one of the 
four remaining on FFL. Now you own it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 10:26 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> Like I've said before David, you can get you a battered old brass lamp 
> from any flea market, rub it and rub it and rub it all the while 
> chanting "I wish Cotton was a money!, I wish Cotton was a monkey!" but 
> Cotton ain't never gone turn into a monkey, nor will saying its so 
> give TM and ESPECIALLY TMSP in groups ANY scientific credibility. The 
> main "science" behind TM and TMSP is "Believe cuz we say it."
 >
You realize you just called Judy a liar, right?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[doctordumbass]

Yeah, I enjoy 'fun' too. Yet, sometimes, I like to bounce my experiences off of 
those with similar experiences, with the discussion limited, to those who have 
had similar experiences, and can discuss them intelligently and knowledgeably. 
If you read the brief description for BATGAP, it is for 'ordinary awakened 
people', so, yes, not everyone's cup of tea. Even though the BATGAP forum is 
not 'fun', in the way this place is 'fun', the value per post, is much higher. 
I am sorry you missed that.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
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4 emptybill
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2 srijau
2 punditster
2 merudanda 
2 martyboi
2 j_alexander_stanley
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 10:05 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Thanks for filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same 
reaction to Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have had. 
He actually sounds *afraid* of the "massive 26 members," which we now 
know to be one woman and a few other concerned parents and teachers. 
He's afraid, even though they're "armed" with nothing but the truth 
about what the mantras mean and what the words in the puja mean. And 
probably a little truth about Rajas and their gold crowns and long 
robes and one-million-dollar-a-head "qualifications" for that title.

>
It looks like you're preaching to the choir here on FFL - there are only 
about four TMers left. You'd probably reach a much larger target 
audience if you posted to TM-Free with John Knapp, Mike Doughney and 
Gema Catena. I doubt you're going to convince the remaining four to 
change their practice much, if that's your goal.




When told these things, especially in the face of the evasions and BS 
they get from the TM teachers when they confront them with what 
they've been told, the other parents and the teachers make the right 
decision US Constitution-wise, and boot the stealth religion out of 
their schools.


If TM were really so great, the TM organization wouldn't have to lie 
to sell it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[Share Long]

I think this is a very balanced article and I'm grateful to the reporter for 
the compassion, fairness and reasonableness contained in it.





On Sunday, March 23, 2014 9:53 AM, Michael Jackson  wrote:
 
  
The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

Here's Lawson's "paranoia-filled post" in its entirety (also quoted at the end 
of Michael's post below): 

 There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt to 
sabatoge any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is 
apparently a member.
 

 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 

 Wondering how they will respond if the preliminary PTSD research of the 
effects of TM on war refugees is confirmed by independent researchers.
 

 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/377535

 

 "Huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members)" is obviously Lawson being 
ironic. And according to Barry, there are even fewer members than Lawson 
assumes.
 

 This post is an excellent example of Barry's delusionary spinning. Lawson's 
post isn't at all "paranoid," nor does it sound as though he's "afraid." 
"Disgusted" is more like it.
 

 Michael does some of his own spinning as well. Do the kids in fact have to 
"bow" to a picture of Guru Dev? I didn't when I learned TM. And of course it 
wasn't just the one woman who got Quiet Time kicked out of the SF schools, 
contrary to what Michael suggests.
 

 I have no idea what Michael's problem is with Lawson using the phrase "Quiet 
Time schools."
 

 Also, in case anybody isn't aware of this (Michael and Barry aren't going to 
tell you), the kids (and their parents) have a choice of TM or some other 
"quiet" practice, religious or secular. Nobody was being forced to learn or 
practice TM.
 

 

 Thanks for filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same reaction to 
Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have had. He actually sounds 
*afraid* of the "massive 26 members," which we now know to be one woman and a 
few other concerned parents and teachers. He's afraid, even though they're 
"armed" with nothing but the truth about what the mantras mean and what the 
words in the puja mean. And probably a little truth about Rajas and their gold 
crowns and long robes and one-million-dollar-a-head "qualifications" for that 
title. 

 
When told these things, especially in the face of the evasions and BS they get 
from the TM teachers when they confront them with what they've been told, the 
other parents and the teachers make the right decision US Constitution-wise, 
and boot the stealth religion out of their schools. 
 

 If TM were really so great, the TM organization wouldn't have to lie to sell 
it. 

 

 From: Michael Jackson 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 
 
   Oh, and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all Quiet Time schools. 
Isn't it interesting that you characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather 
than schools where quiet time program has been implemented?
 
 I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page you mention. She got 
a permission slip from her son's school asking her to sign to allow her son to 
participate in the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there was 
really no clear description of the program. When she learned it was TM with its 
Hindu underpinnings, replete with secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a 
Hindu guru for the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice was 
violating the no religion in public school barrier.
 
 As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM related "programs" she 
became more alarmed especially after receiving evasive and circular answers 
from the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to get the 
program removed from her son's school.
 
 At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at their school, the 
teachers collectively had a say in what extracurricular programs were offered 
there. So after her speaking to the school board and having other parents 
express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves voted to give the TMO 
the boot. The teachers at this school did it, mind you, not the school board or 
the principle.
 
 Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that were listed by the 
Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time. Two schools still have it, but at least 
two others have given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had 
been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear they were gone she 
didn't think to ask. But she did say this: "Each time, I heard a pretty 
emphatic "not here and not anymore".
 
 Now this brings up an opportunity for folks to examine what they believe about 
the effect of TM in the world. On one hand we have the TMO with all its 
advertising and celebrity endorsements of TM, you have the effect of supposedly 
thousands of people practicing TMSP in groups. The effects of pundits doing 
TMSP and yagyas, a supposedly burgeoni

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dolly Lommer Unstressing on Sex Stuff

[Mike Dixon]

What's the saying? The constitution protects the *rights* of minorities.




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:19 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
  
  
In terms of "sexual misconduct" as used in the article, where do you draw line? 
Sex with animals?  Certainly there will be those that object to a prohibition 
on that, even though you getting to a pretty small minority.  

On the other hand, anything short of that is going to encounter a lot of 
opposition.  DL's gotta watch himself there.  Fortunately he left himself some 
wiggle room.  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I think I would rather go to the Green Llama for spiritual guidance:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Dalai-Lama-Speaks-on-Gay-Sex-He-says-it-s-wrong-2836591.php
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[TurquoiseBee]

From: Michael Jackson 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public 
schools
 


  
Like I've said before David, you can get you a battered old brass lamp from any 
flea market, rub it and rub it and rub it all the while chanting "I wish Cotton 
was a money!, I wish Cotton was a monkey!" but Cotton ain't never gone turn 
into a monkey, nor will saying its so give TM and ESPECIALLY TMSP in groups ANY 
scientific credibility. The main "science" behind TM and TMSP is "Believe cuz 
we say it."

It is worth remembering -- when thinking of TM getting thrown out of schools it 
had weaseled its way into under false pretenses -- Thomas Jefferson's quote 
adorning the rotunda of the Jefferson Memorial: "I have sworn upon the altar of 
God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."

These words were written in a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush in 1800, and the 
particular "tyranny" that Jefferson was referring to was an attempt to 
similarly sneak religion (in that case, a form of Protestant Christianity) into 
a school system. Jefferson and others kicked *it* out of the schools as well. 




On Sun, 3/23/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:00 PM

I worry for a future
Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap  that America
is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians
if we as
Americans cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and
others all
around the Pacific rim who are adopting transcending
meditation in to
their economies for their students on good scientific
grounds.
-Buck
punditster
writes:
On
3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
There's
a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to
attemptto
sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco.
Mjacksonis
apparently a member.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702


In case you didn't know, M. Jackson
is apparently working for John Knapp 

at TM-Free.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[Mike Dixon]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.




On Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:07 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
  
  
I worry for a future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap that America
is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians if we as
Americans cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and others all
around the Pacific rim who are adopting transcending meditation in to
their economies for their students on good scientific grounds. 
-Buck

punditster writes:

On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:

There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt
to sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson
is apparently a member.

>
>https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
>
>In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
at TM-Free.  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I worry for a future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap that America is 
going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians if we as Americans 
cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and others all around the Pacific rim 
who are adopting transcending meditation in to their economies for their 
students on good scientific grounds.
 -Buck
 

 I have to sort of agree with you on this subject regarding this one mother who 
objected to TM because of the "danger" that it might be based in some sort of 
religion. She sounds narrow minded and fearful to me. I think a few minutes of 
TM quiet time for most schools would be beneficial. It might actually get these 
kids off their phones for a whole 20 minutes. I don't applaud this woman, I 
think there are millions out there exactly like her - unimaginative, unexposed 
to much beyond white bread American values and otherwise stuck in the mud. I'll 
go further to conjecture she's a middle class Republican.
 

 punditster writes:
 

 
 On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
 

 There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt
 to sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson
 is apparently a member.
 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702

 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
 at TM-Free.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geoff Gilpin

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Did you ever run into him at MIU? He might have been there a bit before your 
time I guess.
 

 I was trying to place the name and it sounded vaguely familiar. I was at MIU 
from 1975 (Fall) until 1980 (Spring) as a student. When was he there?
 
 On Sun, 3/23/14, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geoff Gilpin
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 1:26 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote :
 
 You folks might
 enjoy reading this blog by the guy who wrote the Maharishi
 Effect - I am certainly enjoying it!
 
 
 
 http://geoffgilpin.com/ http://geoffgilpin.com/
 Having just
 read one entry I find him to be a very clear and clean
 writer with some really interesting ideas and experiences
 that I plan to explore further. Thanks for the
 link. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[Michael Jackson]

Like I've said before David, you can get you a battered old brass lamp from any 
flea market, rub it and rub it and rub it all the while chanting "I wish Cotton 
was a money!, I wish Cotton was a monkey!" but Cotton ain't never gone turn 
into a monkey, nor will saying its so give TM and ESPECIALLY TMSP in groups ANY 
scientific credibility. The main "science" behind TM and TMSP is "Believe cuz 
we say it."

On Sun, 3/23/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:00 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   I worry for a future
 Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap  that America
 is going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians
 if we as
 Americans cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and
 others all
 around the Pacific rim who are adopting transcending
 meditation in to
 their economies for their students on good scientific
 grounds.
 -Buck
 punditster
 writes:
 On
 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
 There's
 a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to
 attemptto
 sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco.
 Mjacksonis
 apparently a member.
 
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
 
 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson
 is apparently working for John Knapp 
 
 at TM-Free.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

Richard has no special personal "sources" other than his own imagination. 

 Mike Doughney had his own anti-TM site well before Knapp started Trancenet.
 

 Knapp isn't in a position to discredit anybody for anything, having lost his 
NYState license to practice therapy because of unprofessional behavior.
 

 Better tell Barry there are only four TMers left on FFL. He made a post 
recently in which he suggested that he and Bhairitu were the only two FFLers 
who weren't "pussified TM blissninnies."
 

 

 

 

 John Knapp has long since left TM-Free. Mike Doughney runs it now, has been 
for several years..
 According to my sources, John Knapp reads TM-Free like it was his personal 
Bible, the same way Mike Doughney used to read Trancenet - as way to gather 
information for the sole purpose of discrediting TMers like Judy. She used to 
defend her beliefs, but for the past few years she had been letting impostors 
like MJ infer that she is another serial liar. That's what I think. 
 
 Whatever happened to personal integrity? I for one, don't want to just watch 
this forum turned into another anti-TM bash list of MMY and TM. It's beginning 
to look like the FFL form is being taken over. By my count, there are exactly 
four TMers left on this list. Go figure.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

Looking again at the SF Parents against TM in Public Schools facebook pages, I 
see the page has exactly 26 "likes" - I assume this is where L English gets his 
26 members from.

On Sun, 3/23/14, TurquoiseBee  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 3:05 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Thanks for filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much
 the same reaction to Lawson's paranoia-filled post that
 you seem to have had. He actually sounds *afraid* of the
 "massive 26 members," which we now know to be one
 woman and a few other concerned parents and teachers.
 He's afraid, even though they're "armed"
 with nothing but the truth about what the mantras mean and
 what the words in the puja mean. And probably a little truth
 about Rajas and their gold crowns and long robes and
 one-million-dollar-a-head "qualifications" for
 that title. 
 
 When told these things, especially in the face of the
 evasions and BS they get from the TM teachers when they
 confront them with what they've been told, the other
 parents and the teachers
  make the right decision US Constitution-wise, and boot the
 stealth religion out of their schools. 
 
 If TM were really so great, the TM organization
 wouldn't have to lie to sell it. 
 

 From: Michael
 Jackson 
  To:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday,
 March 23, 2014 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re:
 [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to
 Counter-Revolutionary poison?

 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Oh, and there is no attempt to
 "sabotage" any and all Quiet Time schools.
 Isn't it interesting that you characterize them as
 "Quiet Time schools" rather than schools where
 quiet time program has been implemented?
 
 
 
 I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page
 you mention. She got a permission slip from her son's
 school asking her to sign to allow her son to participate in
 the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there
 was really no clear description of the program. When she
 learned it was TM with its Hindu underpinnings, replete with
 secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a Hindu guru for
 the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice
 was violating the no religion in public school barrier.
 
 
 
 As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM
 related "programs" she became more alarmed
 especially after receiving evasive and circular answers from
 the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to
 get the program removed from her son's school.
 
 
 
 At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at
 their school, the teachers collectively had a say in what
 extracurricular programs were offered there. So after her
 speaking to the school board and having other parents
 express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves
 voted to give the TMO the boot. The teachers at this school
 did it, mind you, not the school board or the principle.
 
 
 
 Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that
 were listed by the Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time.
 Two schools still have it, but at least two others have
 given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had
 been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear
 they were gone she didn't think to ask. But she did say
 this: "Each time, I heard a pretty emphatic "not
 here and not anymore".
 
 
 
 Now this brings up an opportunity for folks to examine what
 they believe about the effect of TM in the world. On one
 hand we have the TMO with all its advertising and celebrity
 endorsements of TM, you have the effect of supposedly
 thousands of people practicing TMSP in groups. The effects
 of pundits doing TMSP and yagyas, a supposedly burgeoning
 number of new TM meditators all of whom are not only doing
 TM and TMSP and yagyas but hoping and desiring to have TM
 taught universally.
 
 
 
 On the other hand, we have one woman with a desire for
 transparency and her own determination who got TM kicked out
 of one school added at least 2 other schools where Lynch and
 the TMO had already been kicked out. What can we surmise
 about this? Is this one woman loaded with money and paid the
 school staff to kick the TMO out? No. Is she a particularly
 powerful rakshasa who did evil magic to get rid of the TMO?
 Not likely. 
 
 
 
 So how did one determined woman win over a huge moneyed
 organization backed by celebrities, yagyas and the Marshy
 Effect? Answer - the TMO is full of it, and the Marshy
 Effect doesn't exist, nor do yagyas work particularly
 well. And people say one woman can't make a difference!
 
 
 
 
 As to my participation, I merely wished this lady well, told
 her a little of what I know the TMO is like and directed her
 to Marshy's own words quoted in the or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 9:27 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Actually, Barry, I couldn't be more pleased to learn that your 
"family" considers me a "psychotic cult bitch." That quite effectively 
debunks Share's notion that you must be "nice" or they wouldn't want 
to live with you because (according to Share) they're "nice."*



*>
*I wouldn't take seriously anything you two have to say anymore. You 
have pretty much proven how petty two people can be, comparing each 
others family to the quality of their posts, or the lack thereof.**Where 
is Dr. Pete when we *really* need him?*


*


(Of course, the above assumes you were telling the truth about what 
they've said.)


Maybe stop trying to demonstrate that she's exactly the thing she's 
got her panties in a twist about, a "psychotic cult bitch." :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[TurquoiseBee]

Thanks for filling in the blanks, Michael. I had much the same reaction to 
Lawson's paranoia-filled post that you seem to have had. He actually sounds 
*afraid* of the "massive 26 members," which we now know to be one woman and a 
few other concerned parents and teachers. He's afraid, even though they're 
"armed" with nothing but the truth about what the mantras mean and what the 
words in the puja mean. And probably a little truth about Rajas and their gold 
crowns and long robes and one-million-dollar-a-head "qualifications" for that 
title. 

When told these things, especially in the face of the evasions and BS they get 
from the TM teachers when they confront them with what they've been told, the 
other parents and the teachers make the right decision US Constitution-wise, 
and boot the stealth religion out of their schools. 


If TM were really so great, the TM organization wouldn't have to lie to sell 
it. 




 From: Michael Jackson 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 


  
Oh, and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all Quiet Time schools. Isn't 
it interesting that you characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather than 
schools where quiet time program has been implemented?

I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page you mention. She got 
a permission slip from her son's school asking her to sign to allow her son to 
participate in the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there was 
really no clear description of the program. When she learned it was TM with its 
Hindu underpinnings, replete with secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a 
Hindu guru for the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice was 
violating the no religion in public school barrier.

As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM related "programs" she 
became more alarmed especially after receiving evasive and circular answers 
from the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to get the 
program removed from her son's school.

At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at their school, the 
teachers collectively had a say in what extracurricular programs were offered 
there. So after her speaking to the school board and having other parents 
express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves voted to give the TMO 
the boot. The teachers at this school did it, mind you, not the school board or 
the principle.

Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that were listed by the 
Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time. Two schools still have it, but at least 
two others have given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had 
been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear they were gone she 
didn't think to ask. But she did say this: "Each time, I heard a pretty 
emphatic "not here and not anymore".

Now this brings up an opportunity for folks to examine what they believe about 
the effect of TM in the world. On one hand we have the TMO with all its 
advertising and celebrity endorsements of TM, you have the effect of supposedly 
thousands of people practicing TMSP in groups. The effects of pundits doing 
TMSP and yagyas, a supposedly burgeoning number of new TM meditators all of 
whom are not only doing TM and TMSP and yagyas but hoping and desiring to have 
TM taught universally.

On the other hand, we have one woman with a desire for transparency and her own 
determination who got TM kicked out of one school added at least 2 other 
schools where Lynch and the TMO had already been kicked out. What can we 
surmise about this? Is this one woman loaded with money and paid the school 
staff to kick the TMO out? No. Is she a particularly powerful rakshasa who did 
evil magic to get rid of the TMO? Not likely. 

So how did one determined woman win over a huge moneyed organization backed by 
celebrities, yagyas and the Marshy Effect? Answer - the TMO is full of it, and 
the Marshy Effect doesn't exist, nor do yagyas work particularly well. And 
people say one woman can't make a difference! 

As to my participation, I merely wished this lady well, told her a little of 
what I know the TMO is like and directed her to Marshy's own words quoted in 
the original edition of Hermit in House about mantras being the names of gods 
and Marshy's likening TM to prayer in his little book the Meditations of 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

And that was it.

On Sun, 3/23/14, lengli...@cox.net  wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 6:31 AM 

There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive
26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time
Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is apparently a
member.
https://w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 9:10 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*John Knapp has long since left TM-Free. Mike Doughney runs it now, 
has been for several years.*.
According to my sources, John Knapp reads TM-Free like it was his 
personal Bible, the same way Mike Doughney used to read Trancenet - as 
way to gather information for the sole purpose of discrediting TMers 
like Judy. She used to defend her beliefs, but for the past few years 
she had been letting impostors like MJ infer that she is another serial 
liar. That's what I think.


Whatever happened to personal integrity? I for one, don't want to just 
watch this forum turned into another anti-TM bash list of MMY and TM. 
It's beginning to look like the FFL form is being taken over. By my 
count, there are exactly four TMers left on this list. Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Ejecting Quiet time meditation from our public schools

[dhamiltony2k5]

I worry for a future Quiet-time-transcending-Meditation-Gap that America is 
going to suffer because of these idiot cultist christians if we as Americans 
cannot keep up with the Chinese, Japanese and others all around the Pacific rim 
who are adopting transcending meditation in to their economies for their 
students on good scientific grounds.
 -Buck
 

 punditster writes:
 

 On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, LEnglish5 wrote:
 

 There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt
 to sabotage any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson
 is apparently a member.
 

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702

 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
 at TM-Free.

[FairfieldLife] Reporter in the Pundit Compound

[Michael Jackson]

The Des Moines Register goes in the Pundit Compound

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20140322/BASU/303220080/Maharishi-Vedic-City-Inside-compound-Rekha-Basu?nclick_check=1

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 8:08 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
> from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't 
> a lot of people's cup of tea!
 >
Posting to newsgroups is of special interest only to those who like to 
communicate via plain text. It actually takes effort and dedication to 
keep up with a discussion, if you are serious about it. It's a lot like 
being a good conversationalist at a social gathering. Also, you really 
need to have some personal knowledge in the subject at hand. To some, it 
seems like a strange hobby - but to others, it's just another way to 
keep in touch with people who share a common interest.

As time passes, people and friends tend to get spread out all over the 
world and we and our relatives are scattered far and wide. Families 
sometimes grow up not even knowing each other, and brothers, sisters, 
moms and dads are separated by state lines and time zones. When this 
happens, it's important that we all make an effort to stay in touch and 
affirm what it is that makes our friendship.

To all my friends out there: I haven't forgotten the time we spent 
together. I have certainly missed your companionship and being able to 
get together more often. I know, though, that we have a special bond, 
which will endure any distance and time, no matter how great.

Anyway, if you ever get out to my place, we will have plenty of time to 
Be. There will also be plenty of time to just sit on the porch and watch 
the moon climb over the mountain.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geoff Gilpin

[Michael Jackson]

Did you ever run into him at MIU? He might have been there a bit before your 
time I guess.

On Sun, 3/23/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Geoff Gilpin
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 1:26 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 
 You folks might
 enjoy reading this blog by the guy who wrote the Maharishi
 Effect - I am certainly enjoying it!
 
 
 
 http://geoffgilpin.com/
 Having just
 read one entry I find him to be a very clear and clean
 writer with some really interesting ideas and experiences
 that I plan to explore further. Thanks for the
 link.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

Oh, and there is no attempt to "sabotage" any and all Quiet Time schools. Isn't 
it interesting that you characterize them as "Quiet Time schools" rather than 
schools where quiet time program has been implemented?

I became aware of one woman who started the facebook page you mention. She got 
a permission slip from her son's school asking her to sign to allow her son to 
participate in the Quiet Time program. She wanted to know more since there was 
really no clear description of the program. When she learned it was TM with its 
Hindu underpinnings, replete with secret mantras, Sanskrit puja and a pic of a 
Hindu guru for the kids to bow to, she became concerned that the practice was 
violating the no religion in public school barrier.

As she looker further at the TMO's marketing of TM related "programs" she 
became more alarmed especially after receiving evasive and circular answers 
from the TM people about her concerns. She then began to lobby to get the 
program removed from her son's school.

At the end of it, the school principal informed her that at their school, the 
teachers collectively had a say in what extracurricular programs were offered 
there. So after her speaking to the school board and having other parents 
express their concerns as well, the teachers themselves voted to give the TMO 
the boot. The teachers at this school did it, mind you, not the school board or 
the principle.

Subsequently this lady called all the other schools that were listed by the 
Lynch Foundation as having Quiet Time. Two schools still have it, but at least 
two others have given the TMO the heave ho. I asked if she knew why they had 
been kicked out and she told me she was so relieved to hear they were gone she 
didn't think to ask. But she did say this: "Each time, I heard a pretty 
emphatic "not here and not anymore".

Now this brings up an opportunity for folks to examine what they believe about 
the effect of TM in the world. On one hand we have the TMO with all its 
advertising and celebrity endorsements of TM, you have the effect of supposedly 
thousands of people practicing TMSP in groups. The effects of pundits doing 
TMSP and yagyas, a supposedly burgeoning number of new TM meditators all of 
whom are not only doing TM and TMSP and yagyas but hoping and desiring to have 
TM taught universally.

On the other hand, we have one woman with a desire for transparency and her own 
determination who got TM kicked out of one school added at least 2 other 
schools where Lynch and the TMO had already been kicked out. What can we 
surmise about this? Is this one woman loaded with money and paid the school 
staff to kick the TMO out? No. Is she a particularly powerful rakshasa who did 
evil magic to get rid of the TMO? Not likely. 

So how did one determined woman win over a huge moneyed organization backed by 
celebrities, yagyas and the Marshy Effect? Answer - the TMO is full of it, and 
the Marshy Effect doesn't exist, nor do yagyas work particularly well. And 
people say one woman can't make a difference! 

As to my participation, I merely wished this lady well, told her a little of 
what I know the TMO is like and directed her to Marshy's own words quoted in 
the original edition of Hermit in House about mantras being the names of gods 
and Marshy's likening TM to prayer in his little book the Meditations of 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

And that was it.

On Sun, 3/23/14, lengli...@cox.net  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 6:31 AM   
   
   There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive
 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time
 Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is apparently a
 member.
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
 Wondering how they will respond if the
 preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war
 refugees is confirmed by independent
 researchers.
 L
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 7:49 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
No, while you were reading "Dick and Jane meet Sally" I wrote a 
computer program.  Go figure.

>
Isn't that special!

There used to be an interesting discussion group on Usenet - I started 
reading messages there back in 1998 and posted my first message around 
1999. Alex called it the "cesspool of Usenet". Several of the informants 
currently on FFL all used to post there. It's an amazing trove of 
information. But, apparently it's been taken over now by Muslim guy. If 
anyone is curious about the Usenet archive on TM, you can view the 
messages here:


https://groups.google.com/forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[authfriend]

Actually, Barry, I couldn't be more pleased to learn that your "family" 
considers me a "psychotic cult bitch." That quite effectively debunks Share's 
notion that you must be "nice" or they wouldn't want to live with you because 
(according to Share) they're "nice." 

 (Of course, the above assumes you were telling the truth about what they've 
said.)
 

 Maybe stop trying to demonstrate that she's exactly the thing she's got her 
panties in a twist about, a "psychotic cult bitch."  :-) 

 [...]
 








My family is more understanding. They've seen some of the posts that Judy Stein 
writes, and their only comment has been, "Why do you waste any time with that 
psychotic cult bitch?" And they've got a point. :--)
 

[FairfieldLife] Rick's BATGAP.COM interviews

[dhamiltony2k5]

I listen to the BATGAP interviews. They are a great checking for ongoing 
spiritual experience. Rick gets better and better at interviewing, drawing out 
and letting people comfortably talk about their experiences. Only occasionally 
Rick gets a famous professional spiritual speaker person or an academic in to 
interview who is just speculating about spirituality, like that Chopra 
interview. Those can be clinkers. But mostly really fine interviews with a 
range of people having spiritual experience from all over the spiritual world.  
 I am really impressed by Rick's preparation for interviews.   The last several 
have been quite pointedly drawing more of an experiential line between 
neo-advaita school and people having grown more in their experience beyond just 
the sophism of neo-advaitain awakening.   Across all the interviews Rick has 
been exploring that theme of criticism with the people he interviews from both 
sides. 
 
 
 'Watching' the interviews on the webpage is not necessary. Sometimes that is 
good. I tend to listen by downloading them on to an ipod and listen through 
them as I do farm work or at times I have to drive distances. The BATGAP web 
forum I find got dominated by some people who did not have much of substance to 
say and some know-it-all guy named David who is kind of like the neo-adviata 
people and it gets boring hearing their assertion. Evidently kind of like what 
happened with personalities of the Fairfield weds satsanga.
 
 
 However, if FFL folks have not been listening to BATGAP.COM then start out 
just listening to a few and get a feel for it. They are an amazing body of 
spiritual work.  Both Thumbs both up for Rick's BATGAP.COM work.  That is 
enough.  He does not need to moderate a batgap forum too.
 -Buck
 

 punditster writes:
 So, I wonder how many watch the BATGAP interviews? This shouldn't be 
 difficult to figure out using Google Analytics. Instead of posting 
 snarky messages about my posting to FFL, why doesn't Rick support his 
 own discussion groups? I've watched every interview, sometimes twice, 
 but I didn't post any messages to BATGAP - who wants to try and dialog 
 with deaf-mutes?
 
 How long does it take to read and post a reply on BATGAP - about one minute?
 

 

 On 3/22/2014 8:23 PM, Share Long wrote:
  I have a friend who tells me what's happening with the BAT interviews.
. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 7:40 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Speaking of TM science, here is an EXCELLENT write up about that very 
> thing.
>
> http://www.process.org/discept/2010/01/30/lies-levitation-and-defamations-most-foul/
 >
It looks like it's all settled then - there's no levitation. Barry must 
have been hallucinating. After MJ posting this report, is there anyone 
still out there that still believes in the TMSP or that they ever saw 
anyone ever levitate? We haven't heard from Judy on this subject - I 
wonder why? She seemed to let Barry off lightly on this subject. Where I 
come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Go figure.

"Worse than my failure to appreciate the science of the Maharishi 
Effect, is the fact that I’ve dismissed out-of-hand, as absurd, TM™’s 
Yogic Flying – the claim that TM™ meditators may achieve levitation."

http://www.process.org/discept/2010/01/30/lies-levitation-and-defamations-most-foul/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[authfriend]

John Knapp has long since left TM-Free. Mike Doughney runs it now, has been for 
several years.. 

 > There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt 
 > to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson 
 > is apparently a member.
 >
 >
 > https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 >  
 > https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
 at TM-Free.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 7:15 AM, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
You might want  to check out the CW series "The 100" which debuted 
this last week.  Usually CW, whose target audience is younger, has 
some fairly adolescent shows and of course the central characters in 
this one are older teens. The premise is that there was an apocalyptic 
nuclear war on earth and a small number of people escaped to a space 
station.  Now that they feel the earth is safe they send a group of 
100 teens to the planet.  But there is really another reason they were 
sent... ;-)


Dumbest and least interesting TV show I may have ever seen in my life. 

>
Addressing the important issues!

Thanks to the two Barrys for this important review of the CW TV show - 
"The 100". There seems to be a difference of opinion. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 1:31 AM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
>
> There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive 26 members) to attempt 
> to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson 
> is apparently a member.
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 >
In case you didn't know, M. Jackson is apparently working for John Knapp 
at TM-Free.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/23/2014 12:12 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Enjoy Judy, Enjoy.  Find something positive to focus on.  Take a break 
from the Barry battles.  Pet a kitty, drink some tea.  Count your 
blessings.  Something.



Maybe stop trying to demonstrate that she's exactly the thing she's 
got her panties in a twist about, a "psychotic cult bitch."  :-)

>
We are all getting older, Barry - some of us more gracefully than 
others. It's 2014 and some people still believe in human levitation, but 
a few of us older guys think it's a funny thing to try to do just to 
impress people. I guess the really difficult part is the gently coming 
down to earth again - now I can see the reasoning behind all the foam 
padding. Go figure.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh! Clever! Stinging! Such impressive comebacks!

(Is that really the best you can do, or are you just extra-tired this 
evening? Oh, and what's a "heather perspective"? I'm sure that was a 
brilliant crack, but I'm afraid it went right under my head.)


Or, maybe, others (i.e., you and Share) have difficulty "grokking" 
things that I'm able to put into perspective.


Judy, this is a precious part of your narrative, and I'd never
want to take it away from you.
Pulling that thread out.., well I don't even want to go there.

In any case, Feebs, you're in good company. Share is also
clueless as to what that was about (even though she was the
one to set it off).
If you were able to step back from things, take in a little
bigger view, I think you'd gain a different, dare I say
heather, perspective

Now, come on, let's see some of what you feel are your
cleverest, very MOST stinging ripostes. Don't just leave Share
there with her bare face hanging out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Geoff Gilpin

[awoelflebater]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You folks might enjoy reading this blog by the guy who wrote the Maharishi 
Effect - I am certainly enjoying it!
 
 http://geoffgilpin.com/ http://geoffgilpin.com/
 

 Having just read one entry I find him to be a very clear and clean writer with 
some really interesting ideas and experiences that I plan to explore further. 
Thanks for the link.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Some very good editing

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 10:53 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Yeah BABY!  That is FABULOUS!  I love how they synced the video to the 
> song. 
 >
This was a great post by Ann and Emily. Please, keep up the good work!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 9:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*Wow!! You've topped yourself with that one, Feebie-weebie! Boy, I'll 
bet Share really appreciates your intellect and wit. Show off some 
more, please. We just can't get enough.*

>
You are acting like a jealous old maid, Judy. Somehow you just get 
nastier every day. Where is Dr.Pete when we need him? With this post, 
you've proved Barry correct: "Why some people are REALLY bothered by 
others who might feel special."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 9:12 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:
Enjoy Judy, Enjoy.  Find something positive to focus on.  Take a break 
from the Barry battles.  Pet a kitty, drink some tea.  Count your 
blessings.  Something.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Oh! Clever! Stinging! Such impressive comebacks!

>
Judy needs to do something - at present she's a real downer to read. She 
used to be a lot nicer than she is now - but not by much. In a social 
setting, Judy would be shown the door in about five minutes of normal 
conversation. That's what I think.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[steve.sundur]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!
 Ha!
 
 Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!

 
 
 On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in 
person component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in 
FF every Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and 
now BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in 
Australia recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...
 

 Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want 
their spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
 PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.

 
 
 On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   what is WNS?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:
 
   Somebody is doing some compulsive reading! 

 Posting History FairfiledLife:
 

 
 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM, mailto:awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness to 
FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good articles 
about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about turq's report 
about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
 


 Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"? 
 

 
 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
   Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
considered taking up a hobby?
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of FFL PostCount
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
To: FairfieldLife
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC


  
  
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87 authfriend
58 TurquoiseBee 
58 Share Long 
56 doctordumbass
 42 emilymaenot
41 Michael Jackson 
37 awoelflebater
33 steve.sundur
33 Bhairitu 
28 Mike Dixon 
26 salyavin808 
 26 nablusoss1008 
24 dhamiltony2k5
16 cardemaister
12 jr_esq
12 LEnglish5
10 anartaxius
10 Pundit Sir 
9 s3raphita
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4 emptybill
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2 srijau
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people are REALLY bothered by others who might feel special

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 9:08 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

Oh! Clever! Stinging! Such impressive comebacks!

>
Maybe its time for Judy to take a break from posting to FFL, and in a 
year or two she could return, when she can post messages that are 
insightful and cogent; at present, her messages are neither - they are 
filled with hatred, anger and jealously. That's what I think.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Pundit Sir]

Does anyone on FFL watch the BATGAP interviews - I've never seen any
messages that mention them, except for Rick's annoncements. Something tells
me that only one or two people actually tune in to BATGAP. You'd think Rick
would be thanking me for trying help keep the interest up here on FFL. I've
been monitoring these groups for years, and for the most part, there's just
no there, there - NOTHING but a total waste of time. Go figure.

[image: Inline image 1]




On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Share Long  wrote:

>
>
> Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I
> say yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on
> the www! Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure!
>
>
>   On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir 
> wrote:
>
>  Somebody is doing some compulsive reading!
>
> *Posting History FairfiledLife:*
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light
> heartedness to FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted
> some good articles about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed
> about turq's report about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go
> figure!
>
> Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"?
>
>
>
>
>  On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
>
> Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you
> considered taking up a hobby?
>
> *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *FFL PostCount
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
> *To:* FairfieldLife
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC
>
>
> Fairfield Life Post Counter
> ===
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> End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
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>
> 172 Richard J. Williams
> 87 authfriend
> 58 TurquoiseBee
> 58 Share Long
> 56 doctordumbass
> 42 emilymaenot
> 41 Michael Jackson
> 37 awoelflebater
> 33 steve.sundur
> 33 Bhairitu
> 28 Mike Dixon
> 26 salyavin808
> 26 nablusoss1008
> 24 dhamiltony2k5
> 16 cardemaister
> 12 jr_esq
> 12 LEnglish5
> 10 anartaxius
> 10 Pundit Sir
> 9 s3raphita
> 6 Rick Archer
> 4 emptybill
> 3 ultrarishi
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> 2 srijau
> 2 punditster
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> 2 martyboi
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/22/2014 8:23 PM, Share Long wrote:
> I have a friend who tells me what's happening with the BAT interviews.
 >
So, I wonder how many watch the BATGAP interviews? This shouldn't be 
difficult to figure out using Google Analytics. Instead of posting 
snarky messages about my posting to FFL, why doesn't Rick support his 
own discussion groups? I've watched every interview, sometimes twice, 
but I didn't post any messages to BATGAP - who wants to try and dialog 
with deaf-mutes?

How long does it take to read and post a reply on BATGAP - about one minute?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to Counter-Revolutionary poison?

[Michael Jackson]

I wonder too - given the fact that no independent researchers have ever 
confirmed any TM research, I think no one has to worry, particularly when most 
of the so called independent reviewers are TM plants working for the Movement.

When Larry Husten published the details of the Bob Schneider paper that claimed 
to show heart related improvement from TM and I weighed in on the details of TM 
deception, one of the TM plants claimed that only Bob Schneider was a TM person 
- all the others who presented the paper were not TM - I recognized ALL of 
their names, most of whom had been on MIU faculty at one time.

Speaking of TM science, here is an EXCELLENT write up about that very thing.

http://www.process.org/discept/2010/01/30/lies-levitation-and-defamations-most-foul/

On Sun, 3/23/14, lengli...@cox.net  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is there much of any truth to 
Counter-Revolutionary poison?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, March 23, 2014, 6:31 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   There's a huge concerted effort (by the massive
 26 members) to attempt to sabatoge any and all QUiet Time
 Schools in San Francisco. Mjackson is apparently a
 member.
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/SF-Parents-Against-TM-in-Public-Schools/201123776750702
 
 Wondering how they will respond if the
 preliminary PTSD research of the effects of TM on war
 refugees is confirmed by independent
 researchers.
 L
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Violet and Daisy mini movie review

[turquoiseb]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 You might want  to check out the CW series "The 100" which debuted this last 
week.  Usually CW, whose target audience is younger, has some fairly adolescent 
shows and of course the central characters in this one are older teens.  The 
premise is that there was an apocalyptic nuclear war on earth and a small 
number of people escaped to a space station.  Now that they feel the earth is 
safe they send a group of 100 teens to the planet.  But there is really another 
reason they were sent... ;-) 
 

Dumbest and least interesting TV show I may have ever seen in my life. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Share Long]

Doc, from the dwindling number of posts I guess we could say that it wasn't a 
lot of people's cup of tea!

Even others with exceptional experiences, like Kris, fell away. In my 
experience, free for all is more fun, even more healing, even more enlivening 
of totality. Go figure!




On Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:47 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
BATGAP posts were more research oriented, than the free for all, here. It 
wasn't a matter of wanting spirituality integrated into our lives. It already 
is. It was a matter of asking very specific questions about experiences of 
states of consciousness, and learning from the answers - often drawing very 
subtle distinctions. Not your cup of tea, granted. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Hi Steve, WNS is Wednesday Night Satsang, an online group that had an in person 
component, meaning that there was a Wednesday Night Satsang meeting in FF every 
Wednesday night. That forum petered out; then the meetings ended; and now 
BATGAP is petering out, the forum not the interviews. But someone in Australia 
recently revived WNS. Not sure how long that revival will last...


Meanwhile FFL is going strong. What it says to me is that people now want their 
spirituality thoroughly integrated into their whole life, not off in some 
corner irrelevant to everyday matters. Just my opinion.
PS Thank you for your support. It means a lot.




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:06 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:

 
what is WNS?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Richard, having participated on both the dying BAT and the reviving WNS, I say 
yay yay yay for the Funny Farm Lounge (FFL), the best forum, imho, on the www! 
Not that I've read them all, mind you. Go figure! 




On Friday, March 21, 2014 11:43 PM, Pundit Sir  wrote:

 
Somebody is doing some compulsive reading!

Posting History FairfiledLife:





>>
>>
>>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:24 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>Rick, in Richard's defense I want to say that he brings a light heartedness 
>>>to FFL that is welcome, at least by me. And this week he posted some good 
>>>articles about the missing plane. He does seem somewhat obsessed about 
>>>turq's report about Lenz's levitation. But nobody's perfect. Go figure!
>>>
>>>
>>>Mayb, but did he need 172 posts to do so? Can anyone say "compulsive"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Friday, March 21, 2014 10:18 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>Hey Richard Williams. Notice anything about this post count? Have you 
>>>considered taking up a hobby?
>>> 
>>>From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
>>>Behalf Of FFL PostCount
>>>Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:16 PM
>>>To: FairfieldLife
>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03
UTC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Fairfield Life Post Counter
>>>===
>>>Start Date (UTC): 03/15/14 00:00:00
>>>End Date (UTC): 03/22/14 00:00:00
>>>822 messages as of (UTC) 03/20/14 23:59:05
>>>
>>>172 Richard J. Williams 
>>>87 authfriend
>>>58 TurquoiseBee 
>>>58 Share Long 
>>>56 doctordumbass
>>>42 emilymaenot
>>>41 Michael Jackson 
>>>37 awoelflebater
>>>33 steve.sundur
>>>33 Bhairitu 
>>>28 Mike Dixon 
>>>26 salyavin808 
>>>26 nablusoss1008 
>>>24 dhamiltony2k5
>>>16
cardemaister
>>>12 jr_esq
>>>12 LEnglish5
>>>10 anartaxius
>>>10 Pundit Sir 
>>>9 s3raphita
>>>6 Rick Archer 
>>>4 emptybill
>>>3 ultrarishi 
>>>2 wgm4u 
>>>2 srijau
>>>2 punditster
>>>2 merudanda 
>>>2 martyboi
>>>2 j_alexander_stanley
>>>2 Dick Mays 
>>>1 yifuxero
>>>1 turquoiseb
>>>1 martin.quickman
>>>1 WLeed3
>>>1 Duveyoung 
>>>Posters: 35
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>>>=
>>>Daylight Saving Time (Summer):
>>>US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM
>>>Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM
>>>Standard Time (Winter):
>>>US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM
>>>Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM
>>>For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 21-Mar-14 00:15:03 UTC

[Share Long]

Steve, Kristen Kirk #218 is the one Van told me about. When he tells me people 
argue rudely in the Comments, I check it out and invariably think: he needs to 
visit the Funny Farm Lounge! As they say, it's all relative (-:

I really liked the Fr. Keating interview. Genuine piety there, but of course he 
would never say that! That's what makes it genuine piety imo.




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 9:25 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Well, it's kind of funny.  The only interview I've watched in probably a year, 
was with man and a woman.  She had a Scottish accent.  The funny part was, that 
the PR picture showed a nice looking, trim, clear eyed guy.  But the interview 
showed a pretty overweight, not so attractive fellow.  

But I did enjoy listening to what she had to say  She seemed to have genuine 
experiences, but nothing controversial, at least in the twenty minutes, or so I 
listened.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve, it was a woman with real long hair. Sorry I don't remember her name. But 
she's probably in the last 10 interviews...




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:23 PM, Share Long  wrote:

 
Steve, I have a friend who tells me what's happening with the BAT interviews. 
Evidently there was one recently that stirred up a lot of discussion. But 
certainly nothing like the steady juice we get on FFL!  




On Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:16 PM, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 
On 3/22/2014 7:57 PM, Share Long wrote:
>> now BATGAP is petering out
>>
>There were three posts to BATGAP in one month. I wonder how may watch 
>the BATGAP interviews?
>