Re: [FairfieldLife] Vajra boy is indeed Tm'er

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:54 AM, Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, I remember it. 1974. The initatior was so beautiful that Vaj humped her. Vaj was so embarrassed by that incident that it took him 10 years of FFL to come clean on it. While 14 year olds may be like that today

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: But for real drama (as opposed to the faux kind), my kudos go to Dexter and Homeland for the season finales of the year. Dexter ended with *exactly* the scene I thought it would, but it took its time getting there, while filling in the proper

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:01 AM, turquoiseb wrote: On another note (and I assume because you didn't comment on it that you haven't been following the series), I was quite taken with Homeland because of episode 11. I really liked it too, but I would have preferred an Episode 12 with an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 12:15 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Is it the same thing, or something different? Beats me? I am no neuroscientist, or even a trained behavioral scientist. All I know is that if some of the states that we commonly see awakened people go through are (as we suspect) a little more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Rick Archer wrote: No need to apologize. Amma’s “hugs” can be powerful, and we’ve seen since Mallorca that not everyone can handle spiritual voltage. There are probably lots of people in mental institutions, or who have committed suicide, who had Kundalini

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Bhairitu wrote: This is EXACTLY the reason that many traditions DON'T give agni mantras to the general public. The claim is they can make some people crazy. Well thank god that never happened with TM, just a little occasional unstressing, and refining of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 1:42 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Unless it pays off in real-world benefits that are visible to everyone, not just the person claiming such moods, I remain unconvinced of the benefit. Of course the only trend I see is a universal disruption of those around them - usually to

[FairfieldLife] The Real Purpose of Vedic Science

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
The real purpose of Vedic science is the establishment of Hindu supremacy. The main targets are the schools, both public and parochial, where a massive Hinduization of history and science curricula is going on. The fantastic claims of Hindu science enthusiasts are dangerous because under

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:05 PM, maskedzebra wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Vaj: What's amazing to me is to have witnessed the machinations of a so-called enlightened man in 1983 and to find no discernible difference between 1983 and 2011 - except I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: Nothing to do with this, but as a side thought and as an outsider (which may discredit my next thought completely), I saw the photo that Vaj posted and followed up with an analysis akin to note the tension in the crowd...etc., etc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 5:41 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: I had love for Maharishi, I had devotion and worked for him, I did what he, or the movement told me at the time. And I think I can rightly say, you don't need to teach me about intense bhakti. But what he is doing is romantizising, that's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:18 PM, maskedzebra wrote: TM transformed me. Maharishi created an experience in me that told me he was the embodiment of the highest truth. The romance I refer to is the romance that Saint Francis of Assisi (not comparing me to him, of course) had for Christ.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV yawns, plus TV kudos

2011-12-19 Thread Vaj
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: Good...I'll just let that one go :) I experienced her as a powerful being. She scared the crap out of me on several levels and she claims to know - I am worried my inauthenticity about accepting her as my guru in order to receive a mantra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
psychological coherence in what you write such that the reader can estimate where you are going with your posts. You don't know what you are doing at FFL, Vaj: FFL is like some kind of dream you are having and inside that dream you are behaving bizarrely 8. Who the hell is Tim Tebow?—direct quote from

Re: [FairfieldLife] SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:32 AM, maskedzebra wrote: 8. Who the hell is Tim Tebow?—direct quote from Vaj two weeks ago. Now it's: I knew who he was; I just wasn't that interested. Do you ever admit to yourself, not to say others, when you deliberately make what is unreal for you

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods...

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Bob Price wrote: Let us try to know the spiritual significance of tolerance. Tolerance is not conscious submission to a superior power. Real tolerance is compassion in disguise. When we have real tolerance, the seeker in us sees the expansion of his loving

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 10:24 AM, seventhray1 wrote: If I were on a jury, and had to make a determination based on the evidence I have heard over my time on FFL, I would say that IMO the evidence is irrefutable (or at least beyond a reasonable doubt) that Vaj was a very active participant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods...

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 10:26 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj: Yeah, the Bob guy goofed big-time here. Good that you caught him in this faux pas. I think you may have done him—the Bob guy—a favour, After all, he just has to know about Carlos Santana's attitude towards Chinmoy to realize

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:44 AM, whynotnow7 wrote: Are your parents still furious with you for trying TM? Sounds like it... They were never furious in the first place. They gave their opinions only when asked and let me do as I pleased. They would not allow me to go to MIU though, a fact I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods...

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 10:45 AM, zarzari_786 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: I maintain my animus against all things Eastern, because that is how I got out from under the hallucination of my enlightenment. As soon as someone quotes some Guru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:11 PM, seventhray1 wrote: Thanks for the reply Vaj, has you have always replied when I have brought up a question in a sincere fashion. Well please keep in mind I don't always read all posts, so don't take it personally if I do not. It probably just means I'm busy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:37 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: So Steve, that's three highly iffy statements from Vaj in a single brief post. Typical, in my observation. Well thanks. That's pretty good work. The part I found odd

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: since there are so many TM teachers on this board, nay even 'enlightened' ones, of what importance is it, that Vaj did TM or not? We have enough information about TM right? When a major disruption comes up, like the recent national airing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas haiku from Whole Foods...

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:08 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: Exactly! When in Chennai, there is St Thomas Mount near the airport, obviously where he was assasinated. On the beach is a beautiful cathedral where he was buried. I think I walked be the cathedral on the beach on marine drive. Since I'm not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-18 Thread Vaj
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:29 PM, zarzari_786 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I find several points -on TM - where I agree with him, and he exhibits knowledge, obviously others are missing out. What points would those be?

Re: [FairfieldLife] SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
On Dec 17, 2011, at 12:36 PM, maskedzebra wrote: You have shut my mouth, and my soul. Curtis. Time will tell. I'm sure you'll have something to say when the pristine innocence of Brady defeats, St. George-like, the Beast's Christofacist demonic consciousness channelled by Fundie Tebow on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
On Dec 17, 2011, at 3:01 PM, maskedzebra wrote: One thing (you wouldn't know about this personally) about TM and Maharishi: it makes you contemptuous and patronizing when it comes to discussing Christianity. Well, unfortunately for you, you've probably lost the best conduit to speak

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:40 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE: Not merely learning about divine things but also experiencing them—that does not come from mere intellectual acquaintance with the terms of scientific theology, but from loving the things of God and cleaving to them by affection.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:02 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE II: Not every love has the quality of friendship. In the first place it is reserved to that love for another which wills his well-being. When what we will is not the other's good for his sake, but the desire of it as it affects us,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: RESPONSE III: That a perfection is present in the human mind, too high to be explained by anything less than the supernatural, is man's nobility. Irrational creatures are impotent here. It does not follow that the highest human perfection is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-17 Thread Vaj
Sent from my iPad On Dec 17, 2011, at 7:24 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: So now you are Vag, the critiquer of Christian contemplation – knower of what's authentic and what is not. How illuminating of you. So where did you arrive at direct experience of Christian

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-14 Thread Vaj
Bravo Robindra! You get the Histrionic Personality award for 2011! Lady Gaga will be playing in your honor (it's actually a gay guy in drag, but hey, I couldn't tell the difference). Mhrvelous darling, simply marvelous. I do wish you'd place a rotating video of your visage on YouTube

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-14 Thread Vaj
On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:25 PM, maskedzebra wrote: I am so tempted to appear on BatGap though; and that would suffice for the video you are seeking. Yes, I hope you're able to make the cut. I often wondered why you hadn't appeared, but I understand Rick has quite a backlog of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

2011-12-14 Thread Vaj
Wow. If that's not the most disturbing, droolingly rabid TM True Believer post I've ever read, I don't know what is. Are you really that naive? Haven't you read any of the research on ACTUAL deep meditation? Doesn't the Catholic church have deprogrammers like we saw in The Exorcist or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-13 Thread Vaj
God is a concept by which we measure our pain. John Lennon On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:55 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Life can educate one to belief in God. And experiences too are what bring this about; but I don't mean visions and other forms of sense experience which show us the 'existence of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Portrait of a Saint

2011-12-13 Thread Vaj
On Dec 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM, maskedzebra wrote: Quiet and simple, but not slovenly; most humble, without any meanness of spirit; noble and generous, grave and courteous, superior to all that is earthy, despising what is perishable, his gaze fixed on what will remain for ever unchanged,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
On Dec 11, 2011, at 2:53 AM, sparaig wrote: Well, you see, I think it is YOU who are missing MMY's nuances here. Certainly stress can have good and bad qualities (eustress and distress). However, anything that pulls one away from the quality of functioning of the nervous system where pure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
On Dec 11, 2011, at 3:04 AM, sparaig wrote: I like to cite my old friend Anoop Chandola, who is not only a Sanskrit/Hindu scholar, but has one very close family member who was part of the committee who selected SBS in the first place. Appeal to authority or argumentum ad verecundiam is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:25 AM, sparaig wrote: Eh, as I said, I have a friend who is reasonably accomplished as a Vedic/Hindu scholar, who considers MMY to be the real deal. YMMV of course. You should send him a copy of David Wants to Fly. :-) And while your at it, you should also try to

Re: [FairfieldLife] SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:47 PM, maskedzebra wrote: You must help me out, Ravi, for I am more perplexed and stymied by a particular reality than I think I have ever been over anything I have experienced in my life. Well at least you're working on the absolute statements. Not! Let's see how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
Dear Robindranath: On Dec 12, 2011, at 6:18 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Dear Vaj, Your fantasizing, I see, extends even into the living moment. Take for instance, your comments here. You have provided no personal, experiential, even intellectually believed evidence for one to assume you have

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
On Dec 12, 2011, at 8:10 PM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: The current successor wasn't even at the ashram when SBS died, He was studying with another guru. Smart man. It's never good to be attached.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-12 Thread Vaj
Hey Robin, Try to have some respect for what Ravi's going through. If you honestly care, you'll realize things like this are best discussed off list. This isn't a public laundromat. On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:59 PM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hey, Vaj: Would you consider telling

Re: [FairfieldLife] An Open 'Performance' Letter to Ravi Chivukula

2011-12-11 Thread Vaj
Robin, you do realize each time you make these absolute pronouncements - or encyclicals - you end up retracting most of it? This is a very old pattern. It hasn't changed a wink. It would be nice to have seen you strike some sort of balance between old Robin and the allegedly new Robin. But the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Facts About Smiles - mindful smiling

2011-12-11 Thread Vaj
On Dec 11, 2011, at 10:08 AM, sparaig wrote: There's an entire tradition that relates every syllable in sanskrit to some part of the body in some therapeutic way. I don't recall which syllable relates to the knee, but apparently tradition holds that there is one. Cha-ching.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Bob makes it up...again

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:19 PM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote: Essentially, the prana (kundalini serpent fire) must be awakened and rise to the 6th and 7th chakra for enlightenment to occur. Whether that is done through mantra meditation OR concentration (like Patanjali taught) is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:59 PM, richardnelson108 wrote: Hey Vaj, Just got sround to reading your post on this. I continue to amazed (I guess I shouldn't be at this point) about how egocentric you are. I mean there you are sitting in your ivory tower making your high and mighty statements

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 7:24 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardnelson108 richardnelson108@... wrote: Hey Vaj, Just got sround to reading your post on this. I continue to amazed (I guess I shouldn't be at this point) about how egocentric you are. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 7:56 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: For example, after Muktananda left Seelisberg, on the way out touching a few TMers, thereby giving them Shaktipath, so that they would follow him, is reported to have said: Everybody is talking about enlightenment there, but nobody knows what

Re: [FairfieldLife] How To Dump A Dick

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:54 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Vaj: If it makes you feel better, a group of your students got an audience with one of Guru Dev's disciples to ask what the f*ck was up with you? He said you'd been fried by a blast of kundalini in Arosa. I think that also explains

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 10, 2011, at 4:09 PM, zarzari_786 wrote: How do you know what he *wants*? Maybe he does, but do you really know his intention? Maybe he just has a sort of creative stroke, so he posts one sentence after the other. In case you haven't noticed yet, that's one of Judy's MO's: she mind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Rama: Our Tradition

2011-12-10 Thread Vaj
On Dec 10, 2011, at 7:48 PM, zarzari_786 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Vaj, I think it is good you provide the sources for the points you just made. They weren't intended as sources per se, but as examples. Fortunately such examples exist, because there's much that cannot be spoken of due

[FairfieldLife] Neuroscientists boost memory using genetics and a new memory-enhancing drug

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
Neuroscientists boost memory using genetics and a new memory- enhancing drug December 8th, 2011 in Neuroscience When the activity of a molecule that is normally elevated during viral infections is inhibited in the brain, mice learn and remember better, researchers at Baylor College of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 10:29 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Oh, good. I'll just have to revise my experience so it conforms with your analysis. Actually we've all already been pre

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vag makes it upagain

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 1:47 PM, emptybill wrote: Those stages of subtly are common stages discussed in Tantric Deity yoga and in Kashmiri Trika Shaiva teachings. They're also used in the Shankaracharya tradition, which uses the approach of tantra, leading to nondual contemplation. This is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How To Dump A Dick

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 3:38 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Yes, it certainly does, Barry, you bastard, you. You mean me, right? My condition is going to deteriorate if you keep this up, Barry: on the one hand saying I am pathological; on the other hand acting as if it's a all right to make fun of a

[FairfieldLife] Swami Rama: Our Tradition

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
Our Tradition Shankaracharya established an ascetic order 1,200 years ago, though renunciates had already lived in an unbroken lineage from the Vedic period. He organized his orders through five main centers in the North, East, South, West, and center of India. The entire ascetic order of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Bob makes it up...again

2011-12-09 Thread Vaj
On Dec 9, 2011, at 8:10 PM, emptybill wrote: Empty: Those stages of subtly are common stages discussed in Tantric Deity yoga and in Kashmiri Trika Shaiva teachings. Vag: They're also used in the Shankaracharya tradition, which uses the approach of tantra, leading to nondual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 7, 2011, at 8:36 PM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: Heh. MMY always portrayed himself as a reformer, so conservatives would naturally be incensed with what he said. Of course the real reason they were incensed was probably because he was destroying the purity of their tradition,

Re: [FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:42 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: But by far your most insightful comment, Vaj, was speculating as to whether this moodmaking technique does anything to create true spiritual balance in those practicing it. Are we likely to see them develop more

Re: [FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, zarzari_786 wrote: I for example compare the TM movement to the Sri Aurobindo Ashram, where the last leader died about 40 years ago. I just met an old lady, who works there in the Ashram since 40 years, is now 75 years old, and to my opinion, has the typical TB

Re: [FairfieldLife] The LED Visible Man Technique (was Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji)

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2011, at 8:53 AM, zarzari_786 wrote: Coming to think of it, given the time frame, it is likely MMY was influenced to some degree by SA. SA, when the topic came up, somebody wanted to popularize his teachings in the US, saying that he should offer some courses, something like a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
Have you seen Limitless yet? Great theme, esp. for meditators hip to the idea of developing the unlimited potential of consciousness and the brain. In Limitless the star gets dumped by his girlfriend. He's a writer with a contract, but also with a bad case of writer's block. He run's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:46 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Have you seen Limitless yet? I saw it and was blown away by the implications. And with the rapid acceleration of smart drug use on campuses it was well within

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sattvic horror movies I'm looking forward to

2011-12-08 Thread Vaj
On Dec 8, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Bhairitu wrote: That's because there are mantras that can control many of the facets of body functioning. You can influence your autonomic nervous system with them. Once you have a quiet mind you can clearly note the effects of any mantra and make

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

2011-12-07 Thread Vaj
On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, maskedzebra wrote: A certain intelligence and intention took over my life, and for ten years, I was obedient (without any choice in the matter) to that intelligence. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297707

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi How the FUCK are ya?

2011-12-07 Thread Vaj
On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What was I thinking? I mean, right there in the first lecture, the guy giving it was obviously not a golden child striding the world and solving problems everywhere. He was a wimp, reading out of the Science of Being and the Art of Living, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] MSAE, was Hey Rav...

2011-12-07 Thread Vaj
Oops, Second one: http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2007/02/program-pedophilia.html On Dec 7, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Vaj wrote: What really happened: http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2010/06/getting-out-of-mindset.html http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2010/06/getting-out-of-mindset.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome meeting with Maharaja-ji

2011-12-07 Thread Vaj
On Dec 7, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Susan wrote: Well, $85 is rather inexpensive. Good for the TMO not to overcharge!!! Hope it really works for people. I always liked the parallels between the cosmic and the individual physiology. And in response to Barry, yes, sometimes placebos do work - at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha and Meditation

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:04 PM, sparaig wrote: Not every buddhist would agree that it is a scam, of course... You can fool some of the people, some of the time has been the sales strategy of the TMO for decades.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:44 PM, sparaig wrote: Isn't Mahesh supposed to be MMY's given first name? It's certainly strange for a scholar posing as a neutral party to refer to a person whom he has never met, but whom he has written formal words about, by his first name. If he's a decent

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:46 PM, sparaig wrote: That might be, but of course, this doesn't say anything about the kids and prison inmates who learn TM en mass through the David Lynch FOundation. Well you'd have to do another study. But I doubt at this late date anyone independent would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 6, 2011, at 1:09 AM, sparaig wrote: Because his comments are very much in line with a lot of TM teachers I have run into over the years. He regurgitates the Knowledge, but doesn't appear to get it. THe whole thing in the interview about how since a given guru was from the advaita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Could be, though that again raises the point -- Are we reacting to Ravi's behavior, regardless, or trying to set this up as a teachable moment in which we align Ravi's behavior with an assumption about his consciousness, or his mental health?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Christmas With Cockburn - Joy Will Find A Way

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:15 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Following up on Vaj's wry quip about Canadian Christians Worth Listening To, here's a musical rarity that may be of interest only to existing Bruce Cockburn or folkie fans. Audio only, this is Bruce, Patty Larkin, Jonatha Brooke, and Peter Stuart

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hey Ravi

2011-12-06 Thread Vaj
Unfortunately for you: your hype might have been part of the hype he was talking about - but I'm pretty sure he meant to say tripe. ;-) On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:02 PM, whynotnow7 wrote: Once about every six months you say something I can agree with, and you said it here: A lot of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:49 PM, seventhray1 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: I think it's important to distinguish between meditation forms that help samskaras be dissolved and those that plant sattvic seeds in the mind to overwhelm the rajasic and tamasic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Oh, good. I'll just have to revise my experience so it conforms with your analysis. Actually we've all already been pre-programmed to believe in the stress release, unstressing, model is factually correct. Each time we transcend we're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Guess Bruce Cockburn's latest wasn't inaccessible, after all...

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
Finally...a Canadian Christian worth listening to. ;-) On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: ...at least not in Canada. Although some critics called it inaccessible and a flop, at the recent 2011 Canadian Folk Music Awards, Bruce just won Solo Artist of the Year and Contemporary

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'President Newt?'

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Those who get their information from FOX News to maintain their confusion, deserve neither liberty nor safety. As you probably already now a third scientific study has been published on FOX news which shows that someone who watches FOX news

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guess Bruce Cockburn's latest wasn't inaccessible, after all...

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Bhairitu wrote: On 12/05/2011 09:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vajvajradhatu@... wrote: Finally...a Canadian Christian worth listening to. ;-) Vaj, you made me spit my juice out with that one!!! Good luck dealing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha and Meditation

2011-12-05 Thread Vaj
LOL. This is an old TM scam, nothing new here, keep moving. Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: http://oaks.nvg.org/tm-buddhism.html Vaj meltdown in 3... 2

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
for decades! Thanks, Vaj! Useful information to have.

[FairfieldLife] Rare video of Robin and Ravi on YouTube

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV1ccge6Jcs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: So, you need Dana Sawyer, who never even tried TM, to explain to you TM? You're supposed to be the spiritual teacher! You're thinking Dana Sawyer knows anything about the TM or the TMO? Go figure. Prof. Sawyer was expelled from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 10:30 AM, feste37 wrote: But it was part of what you said. (See below. I've restored your words that you deleted.) Here's what I said: I regularly talk to people who will mention problems as simple as having to alter their life because they're afraid to go outside or in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:27 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: emptybill: I already addressed this in a post about the primal bijas of Rig-Veda, all pointed out by Brahmarshi Daivarata. You keep avoiding the question: Where do the TM bija mantras come from? He does not know. TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:42 PM, feste37 wrote: Well, that's interesting. I never liked rounding so did as little of it as possible. I can imagine that if people are cooped up all day doing that then they might get a bit reclusive for a while and find it difficult to get back into a more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
Perhaps it's this book? : Cosmic Capitalism, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the Selling of Romanticism. (Albany: State University of New York Press, Forthcoming, Fall 2009). Co-written with Cynthia Humes. On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Dana Sawyer has written a book on the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:14 PM, feste37 wrote: I am aware that more than a few TM meditators have hypersensitivities, but I'm not sure that is always a bad thing: they have their antennae up to detect anything that might be harmful and coming their way, so as best to avoid it (food

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-04 Thread Vaj
On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:50 PM, feste37 wrote: I find this interesting but am not convinced by the idea (hardly a psychological fact) that those who start TM constitute a certain type of person, since such a huge variety of people have learned TM over the years. That's true. You could easily

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2011-12-03 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:48 PM, maskedzebra wrote: He denied he was on the mountain with me at Arosa, Switzerland in 1976 when I saw God. I forgot to tell you. Thomas told me he was certain he saw wisps of smoke emerging from your left ear...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-03 Thread Vaj
Rick, do you know if he's seen David Wants to Fly or read Kundalini Vidya (deals with the style of psychic damage often seen in sidhas and the methodology of dark gurus)? On Dec 3, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Dana Sawyer has written a book on the TM Movement, and needs some photos.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dana Sawyer needs photos

2011-12-03 Thread Vaj
I feel that all recent information relating to the TMO's dark side would be relevant, esp. material that relates to the traditional problems meditation can cause - and the hope for relief for people suffering. You might see the still on-going PR of the TMO as more evidence of the success of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.

2011-12-02 Thread Vaj
Hi William: On Dec 1, 2011, at 7:28 PM, emptybill wrote: My reply: Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's Webpage. He has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist textual borrowing from Shaiva tantric texts. About 5 years ago or so, before Sanderson's page came up, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.

2011-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:33 AM, richardatrwilliamsdotus wrote: Apparently you only gave a cursory look at Sanderson's Webpage. He has plenty of material demonstrating Buddhist textual borrowing from Shaiva tantric texts... Vaj: In fact certain specific togal practices can be found

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shring? Buddhist and Hindu mantras.

2011-12-02 Thread Vaj
Hi William: On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:31 PM, emptybill wrote: Buddhist literary borrowings from shaiva texts are quite clear. However that does not invalidate the idea of a common yogic cultural sphere which went both ways. Yogins often do not mind mixing dharmas since they are concerned

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2011-12-02 Thread Vaj
On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:06 PM, maskedzebra wrote: Intuition of a snail: this is interesting, because this I consider the most developed part of me—and I have felt this to be the case since I was even a baby, when I started having my own thoughts. Again, I would like you to present—just for

Re: [FairfieldLife] New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2011-12-01 Thread Vaj
On Nov 30, 2011, at 8:13 PM, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Paths, Teachers and Cults/HHRWCFFia.jpg Uploaded by : vajradhatu108

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Robin Carlsen file uploaded to FairfieldLife

2011-12-01 Thread Vaj
to pretend Vaj never met him to keep the subject from coming up, and thus having to explain it. Well, I try to be sensitive to the fact that this whole thing has to have been very traumatic for R. It's amazing that none of the video has been leaked yet, but that's really just a matter

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